/sfg/ - Space Flight General

[Anonymous No.15246506]

Terran 1 edition

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[Anonymous No.15246521]

So what has relativity space been up to lately?

[Anonymous No.15246522]

this is the thread for nukechads only. if you're a solarfag go here. >>15246508

[Anonymous No.15246561]

Sex

[Anonymous No.15246590]

>>15246561
SpaceSex

[Anonymous No.15246633]

SpaceX afvs when?

[Anonymous No.15246638]

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[Anonymous No.15246650]

>>15246641
really unfortunate choice of lighting by the photographer in that one

[Anonymous No.15246651]

SRB-X

[Anonymous No.15246652]

>>15246590
Spacesex when?

[Anonymous No.15246661]

Seems like relativity is moving very fast.

When did Aeon R start development?
https://twitter.com/derekdotspace/status/1631805405658488833?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

[Anonymous No.15246680]

>>15246638
>you could board a plane and pass customs of a foreign country in the 70s
>as a minor

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>>15246521
Gross fake looking femoid

[Anonymous No.15246720]

>>15246650
What are you talking about? The engine looks fine.

[Anonymous No.15246729]

Clean sweep. Can’t believe we used to launch one or two dozens rockets a year.

[Anonymous No.15246734]

>>15246729

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_in_spaceflight

[Anonymous No.15246738]

>>15246734
2013 for reference. Wild how Russia was so high

[Anonymous No.15246743]

>>15246738
And then 2003

[Anonymous No.15246746]

>>15246680
if only you knew how good things used to be

[Anonymous No.15246783]

>>15246729
>>15246734
SpaceX should be its own category, otherwise it's misleading.

[Anonymous No.15246789]

>>15246734
>US
>includes Electron launches from Mahia (NZ)
fuck you. you have enough rockets of your own, let the Kiwis have theirs. (and they should get the ones starting to be launched from Wallops)

[Anonymous No.15246793]

>>15246680
with your shoes on, carrying as much shampoo as you liked

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[Anonymous No.15246834]

Missile test reportedly happening from the cape next week. Some speculate it is a test of the LRHW hypersonic missile

https://twitter.com/tgmetsfan98/status/1631738419012403203?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

[Anonymous No.15246839]

>>15246834

[Anonymous No.15246843]

>>15246834
No, they spotted a UFO. All flights on hold

[Anonymous No.15246852]

>H3 launch on March 5th
>Terran 1 launch on March 8th
We will be eating good this month, a Starship launch would make it perfect.

[Anonymous No.15246867]

SpaceX is starting the construction of Payload Processing Facility

[Anonymous No.15246908]

>>15246867
cool, can't wait to see it being finished next year

[Anonymous No.15246920]

>>15246867
they havent even finished the widebay or the factory....

[Anonymous No.15246947]

>>15246920
They've become Blue Origin 2.0.

[Anonymous No.15246958]

>>15246947
BlueX
New Origin

[Anonymous No.15246962]

>>15246958
>BlueX
What if we try to reach Mars... using only suborbital rockets? hmmm

[Anonymous No.15246966]

when more JWST data? What's this shit about the big bang being debunked?

[Anonymous No.15246981]

I hope the militarization of space ruins NASA

[Anonymous No.15246986]

>>15246962
I can only think of two ways for that. One, launch a rocket straight up, until it eventually leaves Earth's sphere of influence and then aim for Mars, though at that moment its payload would be in a heliocentric orbit, thus the rocket was not technically suborbital.
Two, just bring Mars closer to Earth's orbit, just close enough that you can reach Martian surface without totally escaping Earth's gravity, in a straight trajectory. I can't guarantee the two planets won't collide, though.

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>>15246981
Isn’t that an actor and not a scientist

[Anonymous No.15247064]

>>15247021
Yeah he's a great actor honestly, but Marvel cringe (the first ant-man was okay)

[Anonymous No.15247066]

>>15246986
three: make a pile of New Glenn stages, broken Vulcan engines, and burnt-out engineers tall enough to reach through the atmosphere. Then you can easily launch an Amazon delivery blimp from the top of the pile to Mars.

[Anonymous No.15247068]

>>15247066
huh, you are right, we could also make a Hyperloop all the way to Mars

[Anonymous No.15247070]

>>15246738
In 2013 Russia was the sole lifeline to the ISS. The period 2011-2016 was the darkest age of American spaceflight, the first reusability gap since 1980.

[Anonymous No.15247079]

>>15246867
the trailer park is kino

[Anonymous No.15247100]

>>15246867
I haven't been following super closely. Is that Boca Chica?!

[Anonymous No.15247102]

>>15246981
You can laugh but this is good outreach

[Anonymous No.15247104]

>>15247100
Anon how long have you been away? It’s an entire complex now. Even the Florida site is getting built up now

[Anonymous No.15247113]

Starlink is in Nigeria and Rwanda

Who will be next?

[Anonymous No.15247130]

>>15247113
Kenya or Egypt

[Anonymous No.15247147]

>A Polestat will use a solar sail, not orbital motion, to counteract the Earth’s gravity. This will be in contrast to all the thousands of objects that are moving in orbits in which the Earth’s gravitational pull is exactly balanced by the centrifugal force generated as a result of their motion.
>A Polestat will use its solar sail to ‘levitate’ in space above the shadowed, or dark, side of the rotating Earth. The force of light pressure will exactly counterbalance the force of the Earth’s gravity
>A Polestat does not have to be positioned directly opposite the Sun. It can be placed anywhere in a large volume over the shadowed side of the Earth. For this reason, a very large number of Polestats can be placed in the sky without interfering with each other’s broadcasts.
>In practice, statites will be at angles of 30 degrees to 40 degrees from the polar axis. From the viewpoint of an observer on the Earth, the statite will rotate around the pole once every solar day (24 hours). Ground stations will have to have their antennas on a polar mount with a 24-hour clock drive.
>Using reasonable numbers for the size of a practical solar sail and the mass of the payload, the typical distance of a Polestat from the centre of the Earth will be between 30 and 100 Earth radii. For comparison, geosynchronous orbit is at 6.6 Earth radii and the Moon is at 63 Earth radii.
>A Polestat could even be placed directly above the North or South Pole of the spinning Earth. At first glance, this seems to be impossible, because during the summer season the Polestat would have to be above the sunlit side of the Earth, and the force of solar light pressure and the Earth’s gravity would be in the same direction.
>Colin McInnes of the University of Glasgow has shown, however, that a Polestat can hover stably above a pole at an altitude of 270 Earth radii.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg12917594-000-science-polar-satellite-could-revolutionisecommunications/

[Anonymous No.15247151]

Dios mio chinos…

[Anonymous No.15247156]

>>15247113
Nigerians have comparable average IQs to the Irish.

[Anonymous No.15247157]

>>15247151
China número uno

[Anonymous No.15247158]

>>15247156
Inebriation Quotient?

[Anonymous No.15247160]

>>15247158
That too

[Anonymous No.15247220]

>>15247156
Narialand, their homegrown imageboard, is a fucking trip.
High-octane African insanity.

[Anonymous No.15247225]

>>15247151
Is it made of aluminum? Chinks will never learn.

[Anonymous No.15247233]

Would it be really hard to rendevouz in interplanetary space?

[Anonymous No.15247238]

>*BANG* *BANG* *BANG*
CAM ON STARSHIP
>*BANG* *BANG* *BANG*
SCORE SOME FAHKIN' ORBITS

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>>15247220
I don't know what I was expecting but their writing is a lot better than average 4chan user
Selection effects I guess

[Anonymous No.15247276]

>>15247268
>>15247220
love these maniacs

[Anonymous No.15247287]

>>15247276
Nigerians in space when?

[Anonymous No.15247291]

>>15247252
cope chud

[Anonymous No.15247292]

>>15247151
This pic is so old hahah

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>>15247304
same

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>>15247304
ehhsex is spacex is space sex

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>>15247151
I kneel!

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>>15247438
169T in 2 months.
~85T per month
1000T by end of year.

[Anonymous No.15247454]

>>15247448
That's not even a full Starship refill. When it starts launching regularly it'll be insane

[Anonymous No.15247456]

>>15247454
100T x 12 launches = 1200T.

150T x 12 launches = 1800T

125T x 50 launches = 6250T

[Anonymous No.15247542]

>>15246633
Apparently the m113 is only about 10 tonnes, which means a starship could carry between 10-15 of them to space. Would be pretty amazing to have a bunch of big, capable rovers instead of the 210 kg Apollo moon rovers

[Anonymous No.15247543]

>>15247542
Mars War 2120

[Anonymous No.15247583]

CHUCK shuts down anti-space blue checkmark nigger with authority

[Anonymous No.15247587]

>>15247583
>gibs me dat fo free

[Anonymous No.15247590]

>>15247583
where are these starving children i keep hearing about? first off they dont exist. second, if they die, no more starving children. the problem literally solves itself

[Anonymous No.15247592]

>>15247583
Wait, who is Musk racing?

[Anonymous No.15247606]

>>15247542
Cybertruck variant on Moon/Mars

[Anonymous No.15247628]

>>15247583
If public opinion was able to steer policy at such a level there would have been no moon landings. And that's a good thing.

[Anonymous No.15247630]

>>15247590
>where are these starving children i keep hearing about?
Africa and other shitholes, places where aid rarely reaches because of all the corruption and even then you're feeding people who grow up to produce many more hungry children. Not that any of these virtue signaling tweets should be taken seriously...
>dude just solve world hunger lmao

[Anonymous No.15247631]

>>15247630
Over five trillion dollars have been sent to Africa. Fuck them.

[Anonymous No.15247638]

i will never play ksp2 again

[Anonymous No.15247639]

>>15246521
Alien from plannet bog

[Anonymous No.15247648]

isp of cum

[Anonymous No.15247653]

>>15247592
Some guy. Jeff something, I think.

[Anonymous No.15247654]

>>15247638
It was a cash grab. They won't develop it any further, or it will take a decade and many dlc

[Anonymous No.15247657]

>>15246783
How so?

[Anonymous No.15247675]

>>15247653
Revolvatim Ferociter!

[Anonymous No.15247705]

>>15246521
>one of the richest men in history, literally richer than Croessus
>could have any woman you want
>could do the Leo thing and just get a new woman when the old one hits 25
>instead choose to shack up with a 50-something bogged up bimbo doll with a bad case of manhands
>don't even spend the extra few dollars to get her some botox in her weird wrinkly old lady arms
She must have a great personality, or something.

[Anonymous No.15247709]

>>15247705
I think it's a conscious choice not to try and do the Leo thing. We all know how cringe Jeff is from his texts. He could easily keep some stupid 20 year old, but probably has no interest in getting caught up in their fucking retardation. How Leo could possibly do that over and over again is beyond me. It seems insufferable.

[Anonymous No.15247717]

>>15247709

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>>15247648
Pretty shit cause your exhaust velocity is so low.

[Anonymous No.15247776]

>cosmic penguin thinks china will probably land on the moon around 2030
first berger now the penguin... is china GAAN?

[Anonymous No.15247783]

>>15247776
What rocket do they have that could take them there?

[Anonymous No.15247789]

>>15247783
Paying passengers on starship

[Anonymous No.15247796]

>>15247717
I am not trying to defend it. I just couldn't imagine going Leo mode. I think Frasier won in the end after decades of being JUST'd. He's older now, and his glory days are far behind him, but now he's got a blonde, milf slampig to go home to.

[Anonymous No.15247799]

>>15247789
Better tell Musk that it would be a shame if something happened to Tesla factories in China.

[Anonymous No.15247873]

>>15247630
>and even then you're feeding people who grow up to produce many more hungry children
not to mention free western food makes it unprofitable for those countries to develop their own agriculture

[Anonymous No.15247877]

Amazing

[Anonymous No.15247878]

>>15247630
Pretty sure he was talking about American children, not foreigners. And there are plenty of near-starving American children in places like West Virginia and the wider area of Appalachia.

[Anonymous No.15247889]

>>15247878
Appalachia is a lost cause. There's literally a better chance to turn Detroit around than there is to unfuck Appalachia. May as well create an exclusion zone for the area and wash our hands of the whole thing.

[Anonymous No.15247897]

What happened to him? How did one man go so BASED?

[Anonymous No.15247920]

>>15247897
He was groomed by Zubrin

[Anonymous No.15247937]

>>15247583
This can’t be a coincidence. Are niggers genuinely against space travel or something? They are even using the same arguments from like 50 or 60 years ago. It’s surreal.

[Anonymous No.15247938]

>>15247897
the emerald fumes got to his brain

[Anonymous No.15247940]

>>15247897
Musk has lot of affinity with this anime character. Even has similar side characters making the same quotes about them. "Don't bet against him!" "I prefer a steady and predictable vs genius from the nowhere" "Its impossible! How did he do that?"

[Anonymous No.15247942]

>>15247940
>Nobody knows what Elon is doing

[Anonymous No.15247943]

>>15247920
Z*brin was directly groomed by Lyndon LaRouche who got the idea from Wernher von Braun and others, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that Mars has good potential for a colony and the attribution is stupid.

[Anonymous No.15247947]

>>15247940
They also have the same side characters freaking out over short term downturns and upshots that give euphoria to his enemies and allies alike.

[Anonymous No.15247950]

>>15247878
Don’t Americans get literal free food with EBT? How do you even starve in a country where like 40% are obese and 70% are overweight.

[Anonymous No.15247951]

>>15247889
That is retarded. Detroit can never be better unless the demographics are changed. Appalachia is just poor because of deindustrialization.

[Anonymous No.15247956]

>>15247950
I think the usage of the "starving children" is just the nature of statistics itself and not the actual "fixes" aka EBT.

[Anonymous No.15247961]

>>15247950
Most of the free food and government aid goes to blacks. Federal gov doesn't really care about rural white areas. Just look at the difference in the response between the Flint water crisis and what happened in East Palestine.

[Anonymous No.15247967]

>>15247961
Flint still doesn't have working water tho. That was just lots of political posturing, and then the local government did nothing.

[Anonymous No.15247970]

>>15247961
>>15247967
Hell, even Elon said he would fix Flint (lmao) and he did fucking nothing except install a few water fountains at some middle school.

[Anonymous No.15247972]

>>15247967
Well, yeah, but the difference in political posturing shows the federal government doesn't even care enough for areas like East Palestine to do political posturing even. Flint still doesn't have working water for the same reason Detroit isn't a functioning city.

[Anonymous No.15247982]

>>15247972
Honestly, the problem with Flint sounds like some sort of water cartel situation. I remember reading a story a few years back about some black veteran who bought one of those industrial-sized dehumidifiers that turn the moisture in the air into potable water, and unknown assailants kept destroying it. Like they knew he was just giving out free water to whoever needed it, and then at night they would go and break in and destroy the thing.

[Anonymous No.15248025]

>>15247982
You're probably right, there is definitely vested interest by some parties in keeping the water supply fucked up. Keeps aid flowing into the city government.

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>>15246685
It's hard to remain this optimistic in the current timeline

[Anonymous No.15248084]

>>15247113
These two will get it in late spring/early summer

[Anonymous No.15248106]

I don't understand the idea of ULA being acquired by BO. What is the point of having 2 heavy lift vehicle systems that are completely different from each other?

[Anonymous No.15248108]

>>15248025
yeah, they know aid will keep coming, as long as the problem still exist
therefore none of the money will be used to actually address the issue

[Anonymous No.15248113]

>>15247967
The problem with Flint was half the town was built with lead pipes from the street. The dindu apes running city government stupidly changed the water treatment system to one without the chemicals that kept the lead in check. Once all the crust inside the pipes had dissolved off, there was no easy fix aside from trenching every fucking yard and replacing every fucking pipe to the street. At that point you might as well install fiber-optics too.
And then once the root cause was figured out, they did everything they could to gaslight it away.

[Anonymous No.15248118]

kino

[Anonymous No.15248119]

Can we discuss some of the advantages of winged flyback boosters over propulsive landing boosters?

>1st stage can provide a significantly higher portion of the delta V and have a more aggressive lateral curve in its launch trajectory
>can fully expend its fuel reserve before returning to launch site on a runway
>engine throttleability is less of an issue as no burn is needed to land
>noise is not an issue for landing which could make almost any commercial runway a potential landing site

[Anonymous No.15248122]

>>15248118
I want foldable cars

[Anonymous No.15248131]

>>15248106
one of those two actually exists

[Anonymous No.15248132]

>>15248106
>What is the point of having 2 heavy lift vehicle systems
>implying New Glenn is happening

[Anonymous No.15248133]

>>15248106
Bezos has been publicly salty on multiple occasions about Blue Origin's inability to win big government contracts. If you buy ULA, you also buy 38 Kuiper launches and 60% of NSSL Phase 2. Beyond that, Blue Origin and SpaceX would become the co-heirs apparent for the big lane 2 segment of NSSL Phase 3. Blue and SpX would have effectively replaced where Lockheed and Boeing were back in 2000.

[Anonymous No.15248138]

>>15247709
Once you're beyond caring about them at all as individuals their problems are no longer your problems. They're long term prostitutes who work for free.

If you're asking about the logistics, you just call them when you want to fuck or go out and ignore them otherwise. Nothing could be simpler.

Do you worry about how old your Uber driver is or their ability to hold a conversation?

[Anonymous No.15248147]

>>15247937
>Are niggers genuinely against space travel or something?
Is Wiley E. Coyote genuinely hungry? The question doesn't make sense because it presumes something incapable of thinking and planning can think and plan.

[Anonymous No.15248151]

>>15248133
>be SpaceX
>want to build a heavy lift system
>design a LEO satellite constellation so you have something to launch on it
>start building it, do a successful atmospheric launch and landing
>contracts come in
>profit

>be BozoX
>want to build a heavy lift system
>take forever to build the engines
>take forever to build the rocket
>hold your breath waiting for government contracts
>mald

[Anonymous No.15248154]

BO buying Vulcan would be extremely embarrassing because it would be admitting defeat with New Glenn and cement that BO can't develop good hardware. Even if NG never flies, Bozo's ego would prefer perputual gradatim ferociter on it to cancellation.

[Anonymous No.15248161]

>>15247950
Yes, there's literally free food everywhere. I knew a guy who cratered his life and became homeless. He always traded 100% of his food stamps for cash to buy alcohol or drugs or for spending money because he had more food than he needed. Someone would pay him $50 cash to use $100 of EBT. He could just go to soup kitchens or food banks whenever he was hungry.

I think he was getting disability payments, too. He was waiting until he could get government housing at which point he would consider himself to have the perfect life.

[Anonymous No.15248164]

>>15248122

[Anonymous No.15248166]

Enough is enough, remove Earth's atmosphere

[Anonymous No.15248178]

>>15248151
Hey, sometimes you just lose the EELV completion and have to buy McDonnell Douglas if you want to stay in the game.

>>15248154
>extremely embarrassing
>Bozo's ego would prefer
I don't see this at all. Blue's main problem has always been an overabundance of oldspace executive types, and there's nothing more kosher for those people than growing your own portfolio by buying out someone else's.

[Anonymous No.15248207]

>>15248178
>and have to buy McDonnell Douglas
Oh yeah, THAT worked out so well for Boing!
>>15248154
...except for the part where Amazon already has a bunch of launches lined up for it anyhow. It would look just as good for Bozo as it would make the delays for New Glenn look bad.
And it would also let them remove the ULA engine delivery priority for BE-4.

[Anonymous No.15248252]

The atmosphered worlds and the Moon.

[Anonymous No.15248269]

>>15248207
I think turning Blue Origin over to Tory Bruno would work out a lot better than giving Boeing to Harry Stonecipher did.

[Anonymous No.15248279]

>>15248269
I think I agree.

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>>15248119

No

[Anonymous No.15248413]

>Startup founded by ex Blue Origin people will get to orbit before BO

embarrassing

[Anonymous No.15248448]

>>15248119
The MAIN advantage is that it doesn't require developping deep throttlable, restartable and air-startable engines. Secondary advantages include more easily downscalable and somewhat easier to make autonomous.

I don't think it's very relevant now, but it would have been 30 or 40 years ago if it had been tried

[Anonymous No.15248480]

>>15247878
There are no such thing as starving children in America. The poor are fatter than the rich.

[Anonymous No.15248497]

good morning sfg

[Anonymous No.15248528]

>>15248497
good morning sirs

[Anonymous No.15248590]

>more spin prime tests next week
STOP

[Anonymous No.15248625]

>>15248590
spin prime > raptor swap > static fire > raptor swap > roll back > raptor swap

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>>15248633
What kind of rocket were they planning to stuff those dudes into that had 9gs of acceleration as am expected standard?

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[Anonymous No.15248740]

>>15246962
BlueSpace or SpaceBlue would actually be a great space company name

[Anonymous No.15248746]

just hate this planet lads

[Anonymous No.15248747]

>>15248746
It's a nice planet, I just resent being stuck on it.

[Anonymous No.15248756]

>>15248746
I only wish to build an orion drive to both scape the planet and nuke it on my way out.

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[Anonymous No.15248776]

>>15247783
Long March 5. This isn't the fucking 60's. Assembling shit in orbit is a very reasonable approach.

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[Anonymous No.15248783]

>>15248776
nobody has assembled anything in orbit and then moved it out of that orbit yet. Honestly it would be sick to see it happen.

[Anonymous No.15248802]

>>15248783
That was the plan before SLS ruined everything

[Anonymous No.15248823]

>>15247783
It's not an unreasonable prediction from them to have the LM-10 online by 2027 like they claim they're planning. The biggest challenges would be building a VAB and pad big enough for it at Wenchang and increasing their production of YF-100 engines so they can have an extra 46 without compromising the launch cadence of their other non-hypergolic LMs.

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>>15248779
>>15248769
quit spamming retard

[Anonymous No.15248842]

>>15248833

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[Anonymous No.15248872]

>>15247937
>They are even using the same arguments from like 50 or 60 years ago. It’s surreal.
Everyone in politics is using the same arguments from like 50 or 60 years ago. CSPAN reran the 50 year old congressional Watergate hearings on their anniversary, in between the on topic banter, there was a lot of off topic banter about other early 1970s political issues and that part of the old hearing could just as easily have been lifted from any recent political discussion, they were talking about all the same issues.
>the government is running out of money
>inflation
>cars are ruining the environment
>campaign finance ethics
>healthcare regulation
>combating russian aggression

[Anonymous No.15248881]

>>15248119

This is completely irrelevant when we have starship.

[Anonymous No.15248890]

>>15248881
We DON'T have starship tho, at least not yet.

[Anonymous No.15248892]

>>15248849
Yikes

[Anonymous No.15248894]

>>15248849
haha whoops

[Anonymous No.15248907]

New info from L2. I’ve been busy sorry bros
>SpaceX just completed their Flight Readiness Review with the FAA. But the faggot who revealed that won’t say anything about it until “he gets home this evening.”
>SpaceX is targeting NET March 20 for OFT-1

[Anonymous No.15248910]

>>15247937
It's an easy target because it is a very flashy area of science.
There aren't too many people protesting against funding for art museums or preservation/restoration of historical monuments because they are much quieter and less people care.

[Anonymous No.15248913]

>>15248907
So on Monday we can actually say "Two Weeks"?

[Anonymous No.15248921]

>>15247937
Space travel is very public and has very well-known fuckhuge $$$ values. Artemis will probably be 100+ billion dollars when the first landing occurs. To add onto this, average people have no idea about costs or money. The F35 is seen as a fuckhuge failure because it “costs $1.5 trillion” but that’s for the entire program, spanning several decades.

>>15247583
Ukraine is a small fraction of the federal budget. Most government money goes to shit like infrastructure and whatnot. People always complain about
>MUH DEFENSE BUDGET!!!!!
But really, defense is only 17% if the national budget, and Ukraine is a small fraction of that.

And that small fraction of money means that America gets to defang one of their greatest opponents while not even sacrificing any of their own troops.

[Anonymous No.15248923]

>>15248913
Hold your breath until SpaceX makes an announcement. But a launch is definitely within the next 30 days unless some unseen issue pops up

[Anonymous No.15248933]

>>15248849
Mr. George how much you pay for the new guy

[Anonymous No.15248935]

>>15248921
>i come to 4chan to push the deepstate's political agendas
how organic

[Anonymous No.15248941]

I fell for the spaceplane meme. EVA parachutes haven't been added yet and Jeb will die.

[Anonymous No.15248949]

wen orbital?

[Anonymous No.15248950]

>>15248941
>I fell for the spaceplane meme.

https://eurasiantimes.com/russia-partners-india-to-develop-a-marsoplane-aim-to-explore/
>Russian and Indian scientists are developing a Marsoplane to investigate the Red Planet, with hopes to test a technology demonstrator by the end of 2024.

You're not the only one.

[Anonymous No.15248952]

>>15248935
I just want America to be the sole superpower in the world because I’m a nationalist how hard is that to understand

[Anonymous No.15248953]

What the fuck went wrong with KSP2?
>Less features than KSP1
>Overall worse performance
Etc

[Anonymous No.15248957]

>>15248953
>>>/kspg/
>>>/lgbt/

[Theophylactus No.15248959]

>>15246680
thank god diversity fixed that problem

[Anonymous No.15248962]

>>15248949
this month

[Anonymous No.15248963]

>>15248746>>15248756
I know. I’m getting tired of it too.

[Theophylactus No.15248964]

>>15247252
good. lets not forget that the goal of artemis is to put a nigger on the moon. the more inefficient the program is, the better.

[Anonymous No.15248966]

>>15248953
People are comparing KSP2 at its first launch to KSP1 after years of updates. The first public release of KSP was way back in June 2011. It didn't get a 1.0 release until April 2015 and it's been receiving periodic updates, expansions, and patches up until last month.

Video games just aren't released in a completed state anymore. They get developed (hopefully) up to some level of basic functionality and then get kicked out the door so consumers can pay full price to fund the last few years of development. It's fucked up, but there's nothing fucked up about KSP2 that's not also fucked up for the industry as a whole.

[Anonymous No.15248970]

Falcon 9 Block 5 + Block 5 heavy have now tied Soyuz 2 (2.1A/b/v) as the most launched active rocket. 156 flights each.

[Anonymous No.15248975]

[Anonymous No.15248976]

>>15248970
The only reason the Falcon 9 hasn't crushed all of the Soyuz's records is because the R7 had a fifty year head start.

[Anonymous No.15248991]

>>15248976
Yeah pretty much. R7 is also a much smaller rocket; when F9 is expended, it has almost 3 times the LEO capacity

[Anonymous No.15248995]

>>15248849
I love how you can see the guy near the railings throw his arms up and absolutely call the retard in the crane a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.15248997]

>>15248966
The wrongs of the past or the wrongs of other's do not justify other wrongs, they might merely explain them.

[Anonymous No.15248998]

>>15248952
You aren't even American.

[Anonymous No.15249014]

>>15248921
>The F35 is seen as a fuckhuge failure because it “costs $1.5 trillion”

That line of thinking doesn't track anymore. Once the costs were reigned in and the manufacturing lines were properly set up, basically, everyone shut up. There's a reason why the Typhoon and Rafale haven't moved more than three units (I think this is the exact number) in quite a long time. The F-35 is literally cheaper. It's a mistakes into miracles story where somehow the fifth gen. fighter became the default air fighter for basically everyone who isn't France now because it's so fucking cheaper to construct, even with the extra money you shell out to have it exported to your country. Lockheed has a lot of problems, but the F-35 isn't one of them.

[Anonymous No.15249039]

>>15248991
Falcon 9's actually grown to the point where it's outlifting the largest hypothetical R7 designs. It started out as something in the same weight class as the Soyuz-2 and ended up right next to the Atlas V 541. And it's flying about once every four days.

[Anonymous No.15249050]

>>15249039
I always wonder if the USSR could’ve done a moon mission using a 6 booster R-7 and/or Proton with orbital rendezvous instead of N1

[Anonymous No.15249066]

>>15248907
>NET March 20
more like April 20

[Anonymous No.15249074]

>>15249066
2 weeks

[Anonymous No.15249099]

If the Blue / ULA merger goes down I will publicly comment on how monopolistic it is because I know the only future that merger has is decades of continuous grift.

[Anonymous No.15249106]

>>15249014
F-35 looks fat and gay though

[Anonymous No.15249113]

>>15248950
>Marsoplane
Should be Areoplane

[Anonymous No.15249122]

>>15248633
Might have been for reentry

[Anonymous No.15249127]

>>15248995
how is it the crane guys fault that the people directing it caught it on the edge there?

[Anonymous No.15249135]

>>15249050
They had an idea that could have pulled it off using the Soyuz 11A511, but it would have taken a lot of flights to pull off.

Soyuz-A was a very early version of the Soyuz capsule. That would dock nose-to-nose with Soyuz-B, which was a large hypergolic tug stage with a refueling rig on the far end. Soyuz-V tankers would be launched to load propellant onto Soyuz-B 4-5 tons at a time. Then they'd ditch the refueling attachment and Soyuz-B would push A up into a high inclination orbit. Because everything had to serve the military, this was proposed as a means of performing manned inspections (and maybe demolitions) of American satellites in higher orbits, but if you tanked up Soyuz-B all the way it had the delta-V to push Soyuz-A onto a lunar trajectory. Soyuz-A/B/V was proposed for an Apollo 8 style fly-by, but the whole project was canceled when Moscow saw just how many automated refueling missions would be required. They did not have confidence that Soviet computer systems would be up to the job.

The N1's LK-lander was lifted into LEO by a Soyuz for its initial testing so it could have been delivered to the moon by Soyuz-B if you could get them docked. Soyuz-B was also proposed as an alternate means of getting a Lunokhod rover to the lunar surface, and the LK needed one of those to use as a landing beacon. One Soyuz-B could drop a Lunokhod onto the moon to scout out a landing site, a second would deliver the lander to LLO, and a the crew would arrive on a third. Depending on what source you're asking each Soyuz-B would need 3-5 refueling launches to fill up its tanks. Since Soyuz was flying ~40 times a year at this point, it'd be technically possible to get to the Moon with just the standard Soyuz if you could find a way around the garbage standards of automation. You'd just need to use a lot of R7s to do it.

[Anonymous No.15249145]

>>15248966
A sequel should be better than the finished previous game at the very beginning of it’s release.

[Anonymous No.15249144]

>>15249135
Neat. Nothing is more tragic than Soviet spaceflight alt history

[Anonymous No.15249180]

>>15249145
As dumb as this industry-wide issue is, it's not really fair to compare a product that got to a 1.0 state to one that's not going to get there for a few more years. It will be better; it's just not finished yet.

>>15249144
On top of being the only reason the Russians still have a space program today, the Soyuz could have been the little medium lift rocket that went toe to toe with the Saturn V and took people to the Moon. I'm always amazed when I dig into some obscure corner of Russian spaceflight and find yet another missed opportunity.

[Anonymous No.15249199]

>>15249180
It shouldn’t have been released until it was finished. Jurassic World Evolution 2 was released in a state that was, without any updates or DLC, substantially more content-heavy than the finished previous game. Almost all dinosaurs added as DLX to the first game were included in the second game by default, along with several dinosaurs that weren’t in the first game at all + aquatic creatures and pterosaurs entirely lacking in the first game. Why the fuck doesn’t everyone do that? Lazy cunts.

[Anonymous No.15249214]

>>15248849
It’s not that easy in cranery

[Anonymous No.15249220]

>>15249214
It isn't

[Anonymous No.15249223]

>>15249180
>Soyuz could have been the little medium lift rocket that went toe to toe with the Saturn V and took people to the Moon
The modern version can barely push 8t into low earth orbit. It can't launch anything of noteworthy size towards the moon.

[Anonymous No.15249230]

>>15249214
https://twitter.com/hi1ar10us/status/1578405116297740288

[Anonymous No.15249233]

>>15249223
This >>15249180 is an early Soyuz capsule and the tug that it would have been docked to that would have launched it to the moon. To the right is the tanker that would have been used to fuel the tug. One Soyuz launch could get about 1500 kg to TLI. Five to seven launches could get a Soyuz AB complex to the moon.

[Anonymous No.15249235]

>>15249220
>>15249230
Kek

[Anonymous No.15249246]

If a gas generator wastes some propellant to spin the turbine, why can’t we just recollect the exhaust back into the combustion chamber?

[Anonymous No.15249248]

>>15249246
That's a different kind of engine cycle

[Anonymous No.15249250]

>>15248941
this is why you shouldn't play KSP2
procedural wings are going to be great when that game is finished though

[Anonymous No.15249258]

>>15247070
Yup. I'm glad space x and blue origon is making NASA look like idiots and making the American government look cheap. Hopefully congress can just give them money to put a person on Mars. I trust musk more than the dipshits at NASA.

[Anonymous No.15249260]

>>15249258
>I trust musk more than the dipshits at NASA.
totally agree. government is full of lying corrupt fucks.

[Anonymous No.15249262]

>>15249246
Because this typically lowers your thrust, although the Japs got away with it on a first stage engine with H3

[Anonymous No.15249264]

>>15249246
Congratulations! It's 1949 and you, Russian rocket engineer Alexey Isaev, just proposed the Staged Combustion Cycle Engine!

[Anonymous No.15249271]

>>15249246
there's a big pressure drop over the turbine, and the gas after the tuerbine has a lower pressure than the combustion chamber. By the way the only wasting of propellant in a GG comes from the fact the gas spinning the turbine has to have an excess of fuel.

[Anonymous No.15249292]

https://www.planetary.org/planetary-radio/the-tricky-ethics-of-space-settlement
today we have Dr. Erika Nesvold, astrophysicist and author of the new book Off-Earth: Ethical Questions and Quandaries for Living in Outer Space explores the ethical challenges facing our species as it dips its toe into living beyond our home planet.

[Anonymous No.15249293]

>>15249292
There are no ethics questions. Next?

[Anonymous No.15249294]

>>15249292
Bullet points on what ethical concerns she thinks exist?

[Anonymous No.15249297]

>>15249293
>Next?
What about the ethical concerns of the influence satellite constellations will have on indigenous tribal communities?

[Anonymous No.15249298]

>>15247889
shalom

[Anonymous No.15249300]

>>15249297
Fuck em, that's what

[Anonymous No.15249302]

>>15249292
tl;dr?

[Anonymous No.15249310]

>>15249297
There are none. Indigenous tribal communities are weak and cringe.

[Anonymous No.15249312]

>>15249310

[Anonymous No.15249313]

>>15249297
Define indigenous

[Anonymous No.15249314]

>>15249312
The Sentinelese would not exist if an organized force decided they were no longer going to continue what they're doing.

[Anonymous No.15249316]

>>15249313
see pic above your post.

[Anonymous No.15249322]

>>15249293
How will you ensure diversity and racial equity?

[Anonymous No.15249324]

>>15249314
The exact same applies to Earth as a whole

[Anonymous No.15249326]

>>15249322
I won't, because both of those concepts are evils pretending to be goods to enrich grifters and breed tension and hatred between groups. Next?

[Anonymous No.15249327]

>>15249316
Wow what an answer

[Anonymous No.15249328]

>>15249292
Well, I found her twitter account and i think it's safe to say that she's one of the ground-crawlers that should never be allowed to escape Earth.

[Anonymous No.15249331]

>>15249328
That should have been self evident from the phrase "author of the new book." This isn't a question of ethics, it's a fucking sales pitch.

[Anonymous No.15249333]

>>15249313
Glad to help you educate yourself :)

[Anonymous No.15249336]

>>15249331
she's being provacative

[Anonymous No.15249338]

>>15249333
>UN

[Anonymous No.15249340]

>>15246561
with Krystal

[Anonymous No.15249342]

>>15249336
She's whoring a book.

Oh look, so was I.

[Anonymous No.15249346]

>>15248849
Rigger should be fired. It's his job to ensure the load is clear, not the crane operator.

[Anonymous No.15249351]

>>15249294
>>15249302
she's in allegedly favor of colonization but then keeps talking about being against manifest destiny and being very wishy washy about how "not everyone may be in favor of this, and you are not qualified to say that this is man's destiny".
>we need to learn from muh history
as if we're killing and displacing natives. they talk about expansionism as if America was some utopia paradise until the white man came

[Anonymous No.15249353]

>>15248957
nice

[Anonymous No.15249354]

>>15248849
first the scaffolding accident, then the guy getting smashed by the gate, now this. I think it's time for OSHA to shut down the site for a while

[Anonymous No.15249355]

>>15249351
>as if we're killing and displacing natives. they talk about expansionism as if America was some utopia paradise until the white man came
Which means she isn't actually against colonization: she's doing this for an ulterior motive.

[Anonymous No.15249358]

>>15249333
I will indiginize all e*rthers after I destroy their entire homeland

[Anonymous No.15249359]

>>15249354
Nice try.

[Anonymous No.15249363]

>>15249312
I wonder what life is like for those fags.

[Anonymous No.15249369]

>>15249355
she's speaking out of both sides of her whore mouth.

[Anonymous No.15249376]

Why does elon musk get to decide who goes to space? it's not fair

[Anonymous No.15249389]

spacex has no social responsibility to be compassionate and it's sickening. we need space law and regulations. spacex didnt sign the outer space treaty and so must be restrained from committing horrors in outer space

[Anonymous No.15249393]

>>15247220
>>15247268
>>15247276
https://www.nairaland.com/7290930/solar-inverter-installation
They have solarfags too

[Anonymous No.15249394]

>commercial is moving too fast for regulation to keep up, which is frightening

[Anonymous No.15249395]

>>15249333
>Muh Sami
Go back to Siberia where you came from, fucktards. You're not "indigenous" to my country.

[Anonymous No.15249396]

renewables on Mars?

[Anonymous No.15249402]

>spacex's new rocket uses highly polluting hydrocarbons for fuel, instead of green hydrogen fuel like the space shuttle

[Anonymous No.15249403]

>>15249396
reusable windmills ftw

[Anonymous No.15249407]

>>15249402
when will energy sector realize CH4 should be the storage chemical of choice instead of hydrogen?

[Anonymous No.15249409]

>>15249376

[Anonymous No.15249410]

>>15249402
>"green hydrogen fuel"
>produced by cracking LNG, wasting 70% of the energy in the process
Nobody in their right mind produces any noticeable amount of hydrogen through electrolysis of water.

[Anonymous No.15249412]

any time i hear george takei's voice i just remember how he raped those boys and still takes it in the ass. awful man

[Anonymous No.15249414]

>>15249402
>Most of the Shuttle's pollution was chlorine and aluminum oxides

[Anonymous No.15249415]

>>15249409
yeah no shit lol

[Anonymous No.15249422]

How would you build a carbon copy of America's prison system in space?

[Anonymous No.15249426]

>>15249407
carbon atoms are evil citizen

[Anonymous No.15249430]

>>15249422
We're not taking bantus up there anon

[Anonymous No.15249481]

>>15249430
>lunar hopper
>moon bouncer
>space jumper
Well? Which is it, /sfg/?

[Anonymous No.15249488]

>>15249393
Putting solar panels on your roof is smart and based
It's only fag for interplanetary/interstellar travel

[Anonymous No.15249492]

>>15249488
It's not a silver bullet for energy issues, but I'll never badmouth someone for wanting to say "Fuck the power company, I'll do this myself."

[Anonymous No.15249500]

>>15249492
If you don't suck in saudi gas cum every week, you're a globalist

[Anonymous No.15249504]

>>15249481
Rocker, short for rocket chair

[Anonymous No.15249508]

>>15249481
sky skipper

[Anonymous No.15249511]

>>15249504
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rnau8wPcI8

[Anonymous No.15249526]

>>15249396
the latitude where spacex/nasa were looking for a landing site is one of the better ones for wind power

[Anonymous No.15249534]

FLEEP

[Anonymous No.15249627]

>In May 1968, Bellcomm planners described a unique post-Apollo mission to the Apennine Front-Hadley Rille region of the Moon. Had it flown, the mission would have seen a melding of manned and automated lunar exploration, potentially yielding results greater than either astronauts or exploring machines could achieve on their own.
>They invoked an Extended Lunar Module (ELM) capable of bearing 750 pounds of payload to the Moon's surface. During the crew's first venture outside the ELM, they would rendezvous with a waiting Unmanned Lunar Roving Vehicle (ULRV).
>The wheeled ULRV, with a mass of between 1,500 and 3,000 pounds, would have landed some 500 kilometers from the Apennine Front-Hadley Rille ELM site some time earlier. Under guidance from controllers on Earth, it would then have made its way to meet the astronauts, all the while beaming TV images of its surroundings to Earth, charting the Moon's gravity and magnetic fields, leaving behind Remote Geophysical Monitor instrument packages, and collecting rock samples. The ELM astronauts would retrieve the ULRV rock samples for return to Earth.
>NASA and its contractors had studied the LFU, a small, rocket-powered hopper, for several years by the time Hinners, El-Baz, and Goetz made it a critical part of their Apennine Front-Hadley Rille mission. If all went as planned, the ELM would land with close to 1,000 pounds of propellants remaining in its descent stage tanks.
>At the start of the first EVA of day 2 the astronauts would spend 30 minutes pumping into each LFU 300 pounds of propellants from the ELM.
>Astronaut #1 would then fly LFU #1 3.3 kilometers to his first stop, the Apennine Front-mare contact, where he would spend one hour collecting up to 25 pounds of samples, including cores drilled to a depth of 10 feet. He would then fly two kilometers to the top of the Apennine ridge, about 500 meters above the ELM.
http://spaceflighthistory.blogspot.com/2017/01/robot-rendezvous-at-hadley-rille-1968.html

[Anonymous No.15249664]

[Anonymous No.15249677]

>>15246521
looing at this picture is all you need to intuitively understand that BO is ngmi

[Anonymous No.15249712]

>>15249677
>experienced zero g even if just for a few minutes
>has more money than anyone can possibly imagine a use for
>cock goblin with reality bending blowjobs at your side
Why am i supposed to hate jeff again?

[Anonymous No.15249721]

>>15249712
Because his space company is trash despite him throwing piles of money at it for 20 years

[Anonymous No.15249729]

[Anonymous No.15249731]

https://twitter.com/ashleevance/status/1632194657408139264

You wanna build your own rocket? Come to the rocket parts shop

[Anonymous No.15249733]

>>15249729
might recolor this one

[Anonymous No.15249740]

>>15249426
Quaid, start the reactor!

[Anonymous No.15249741]

>>15249740
I am the one who docks

[Anonymous No.15249747]

Reuploading in case anyone missed it. LOVED the way this one turned out

[Anonymous No.15249751]

https://twitter.com/volcanopele/status/1631887773040001024
>Montage of all 5 images of Io taken by NASAJuno's JunoCAM instrument during the PJ49 encounter on March 1, 2023.

More Io kino, I think Juno will end up imaging the whole surface. Very cool since probably there will be no mission focused on it any soon.

[Anonymous No.15249756]

>>15249751
THAT'S IT? THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON??

[Anonymous No.15249765]

>>15249712
he has non-existent aesthetics

[Anonymous No.15249766]

>>15249751
Voyager categorically mogs this shit

[Anonymous No.15249769]

>>15249731
*movie prop shop

[Anonymous No.15249770]

>>15249712
You can pay about 9 grand to get a few minutes of zero G time in a vomit comet

[Anonymous No.15249772]

>>15249426
At this point just teleoperate a remote robot, what the fuck is the point in building a whole ass environment and pressure system just for a nigger to teleoperate some arms from inside it.

[Anonymous No.15249776]

>>15249731
Honestly looks pretty amazing. From the site, it looks like most of it's for rent in service of the studios nearby, but I'd bet you can buy things for the right price.

[Anonymous No.15249791]

>>15249756
>>15249766
It's just the second fly-by you retards, and it will keep getting closer. Those are already a lot better than the one from some weeks ago.

[Anonymous No.15249794]

>>15249751
I fucking hate Io

[Anonymous No.15249800]

>>15249794
that is very rude anon

[Anonymous No.15249804]

>>15249751
how much did these pictures cost?

[Anonymous No.15249806]

>>15249804
Doesn’t matter, this mission originally didn’t have a camera and they only added a spare parts one at the very last minute because they thought it would do wonders for public outreach. They were right
Plus it doesn’t use an RTG which saves them millions and millions of dollars

[Anonymous No.15249807]

https://techcrunch.com/2023/03/03/spacexs-acquisition-of-swarm-is-paying-off-with-new-starlink-thrusters/

Earlier this week, SpaceX released more information about the new argon Hall thrusters that will power the Starlink V2 mini satellites, an innovation that likely has much to do with the company’s acquisition of Swarm Technologies in 2021.

The deal, which closed in July 2021, was an extremely rare move for SpaceX. Swarm — which manufactures and operates ultra-small satellites for IoT devices — remains the company’s only acquisition in its 21-year history. It was also notable because, relatively speaking, Swarm was still quite a young company: When the deal closed, the startup had around 30 employees, 120 sandwich-sized satellites in orbit and had only just gone live with its flagship product earlier that year.

>But in the space industry, talent is king, and it seems that SpaceX has benefited enormously from absorbing Swarm’s team.

Swarm’s two co-founders, Sara Spangelo and Benjamin Longmier, were installed as senior directors of satellite engineering at SpaceX. Both are part of Starlink’s direct to cell team — which is aiming to leverage the Starlink constellation to bring satellite connectivity to smartphones around the world. But Longmier also states on his LinkedIn that he leads Starlink’s electric propulsion group — that is, the group responsible for engineering the new argon Hall thrusters announced this week.

[Anonymous No.15249809]

>>15249807

Hall thrusters themselves are not new. The name refers to a general propulsion tech that’s decades old. Essentially, Hall thrusters use a magnetic field to ionize a propellant and produce plasma. Satellites employ thrusters throughout their useful life — to adjust attitude, avoid collisions with other objects or de-orbit at the end of the lifespan.

The real innovation is in the propellant: argon. Argon is many times cheaper than xenon (the most common, and expensive, propellant used in Hall thrusters) and krypton (the propellant SpaceX used in Starlink V1 and V1.5 satellites), in part because it’s more plentiful.

“The transition to argon was tricky, but necessary, as krypton is too rare,” SpaceX CEO Elon Musk explained on Twitter. According to specs shared online, these new thrusters will also generate 2.4 times the thrust and 1.5 times the specific impulse (a measure of how efficiently the unit uses propellant, versus the thrust generated) than previous Starlink thrusters.

As early as 2011, Longmier was lead authoring technical papers on electric propulsion systems that use argon gas. He also co-authored other papers on thrusters using argon and xenon as propellant. On Twitter, Longmier said that it was 556 days from thruster clean-sheet to orbit: That would mean SpaceX would’ve started work on the thrust around the end of August, 2021, very shortly after Swarm was acquired. Longmier did not respond to TechCrunch’s request for comment.

[Anonymous No.15249811]

>>15249807
Fascinating, I never really gave that any thought but the fact that they have never acquired anyone before this is insane. SX is more of a company “producer,” in that people work there and then leave and start their own business

[Anonymous No.15249820]

>>15249804
a huge lot, pennies for the poor and gazillions to space, children could be eating those solar panels

[Anonymous No.15249832]

>>15249751
That big dark feature is neat, lowlands full of volcanic flow?

[Anonymous No.15249836]

>>15249832
Perhaps, I don't know much about Io features. Perry goes into more detail about it on the tweets.

[Anonymous No.15249842]

>>15248646
Escape capsule

[Anonymous No.15249853]

>>15249820
my point was more that how cheap could taking them be made not that we need to give the money to niggers

[Anonymous No.15249858]

>>15249794
Venus can go fuck itself

[Anonymous No.15249862]

How much ice would we need to restore the oceans of Mars, and to create enough oxygen to fill the atmosphere?
Would one of the moons of Haumea do?

[Anonymous No.15249867]

>>15249862
My scientific answer is: a bunch
just keep dumping more in until you achieve the desired result

[Anonymous No.15249871]

>>15249858
venus is a shithole but at least it's pretty to look at
io is just a stain on the otherwise gorgeous jovian system

[Anonymous No.15249878]

>>15249871
>it's pretty to look at
Sure, if "white and boring" is your idea of beauty
Io is a strong beautiful PoC

[Anonymous No.15249881]

>>15249878
My back looks like Io after so many years of acne

[Anonymous No.15249888]

I LOVE Venus.

[Anonymous No.15249890]

>>15249878
>He hasn't seen Venus with her very own eyes
Go outside. Seeing the incredibly bright dot of Venus in the morning/evening sky among the paltry stars is great. You can't even see Io with a telescope because it gets drowned out by Jupiter.

[Anonymous No.15249895]

>>15249888
the yellow does look kino

[Anonymous No.15249897]

>>15249888
Built for big human cock

[Anonymous No.15249898]

[Anonymous No.15249901]

[Anonymous No.15249902]

[Anonymous No.15249903]

>>15249897
Your cock would melt there in seconds, it wouldn't satisfy her at all.

[Anonymous No.15249915]

>>15249888
Fake picture. There's only one or two pictures from the surface, and that's not one of them.

[Anonymous No.15249920]

>>15249888
AND MANGA

[Anonymous No.15249923]

For me it's titan
No jaggies only pebbles

[Anonymous No.15249927]

[Anonymous No.15249931]

[Anonymous No.15249935]

JUICE

[Anonymous No.15249946]

>>15249935
wtf this is based

[Anonymous No.15249947]

>>15249946
you mean racist/colonial/supremacist?

[Anonymous No.15249959]

>>15249935
>Medician Stars
Galileo was such a kiss-ass

[Anonymous No.15249976]

/sfg/ は死んでいます。

[Anonymous No.15249984]

https://twitter.com/ashleevance/status/1632254809658261509

[Anonymous No.15249985]

>>15249935
IVICE

[Anonymous No.15249987]

>>15249976
レディトーが勝った

[Anonymous No.15249990]

>>15249984
Imagine if SpaceX did not make it and NASA was forced to cuck to Putin and seethe over sanctions to buy crew launches KEK

[Anonymous No.15250014]

>>15249984
China's space program wouldn't BE surging without SpaceX to copy.

[Anonymous No.15250024]

https://youtu.be/50LkRWqNLPs

[Anonymous No.15250028]

>>15247542
Calm down, Mike Sparks

[Anonymous No.15250029]

[Anonymous No.15250034]

>>15249984
>b-but they nearly didn't make it
But they did and there's no alternate reality where they didn't

[Anonymous No.15250037]

>>15249990
They could hypothetically use Orion for crew transport. Not an economical solution, but it should be possible if you were to make a political statement.
It could be launched on Delta iv or even Ariane (provided they greenlight adding a crew ramp to the launch tower)

[Anonymous No.15250058]

>>15248941
>EVA parachutes haven't been added yet
How is this excusable

[Anonymous No.15250066]

>>15249898
>>15249901
>>15249902
I just realized that 50% of the Russians on the ISS right now got up there on American spacecraft.
On the other hand, only 20% of the Americans onboard arrived on a Russian craft.

[Anonymous No.15250069]

>>15248320
haha later suckers

[Anonymous No.15250074]

>>15250034
That's not the tweet's argument. The argument is that without SpaceX, the American space/launch effort (especially post-2022) would be mired in the expensive mediocrity that's characterized it post-Shuttle development.

[Anonymous No.15250088]

>>15249984
Maybe there would have been some unfucking as a necessity.

[Anonymous No.15250091]

Is this true?

[Anonymous No.15250093]

[Anonymous No.15250095]

>>15250093
S25?

[Anonymous No.15250103]

>>15250091
I doubt it just because he calls musk a moron
the argument is clearly motivated by seething towards musk
also, the second stage is not reusable and uses a merlin vacuum engine so they still have to manufacture plenty of merlins
I'm pretty sure starlink was also started as a program for Starship, not falcon 9
you can start the constellation with falcon 9, but it won't be very profitable

[Anonymous No.15250146]

>>15250091
>Musk uh le bad!
No. Virtually any post or statement that contains this sentiment is disingenuous, ignorant, or pure fantasy.

[Anonymous No.15250221]

>>15250088
It would have had to wait until 2014, and even then everybody would still drag their feet.

[Anonymous No.15250238]

>>15249871
venus has a thicc atmosphere

[Anonymous No.15250249]

>>15249935
>S I D E R I V S
>N A N C I V S
bunch of nancies
now where's me sosij roll

[Anonymous No.15250252]

>>15249984
If SpaceX did not make it, China would only have utter shit like Starliner to copy.

[Anonymous No.15250264]

>>15250091
>the price per engine is increasing a ton
[citation needed]
Typical anti-Musk schizo, throwing around strawman statments as though they were established facts.
also
>le always full screen web-babbie
It's harder to read if you don't make your window narrower before screen shots. It's called Microsoft Windows, not Microsoft Screen, so don't lock it in full screen like a boomer.

[Anonymous No.15250274]

>>15250264
>>le always full screen web-babbie
What are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.15250277]

>>15250095
I think they really need to have some way to paint the ship number on the tiles so we can identify a Starship from any angle.

[Anonymous No.15250299]

>>15250277
I'm sure some NSF autist can name them depending on the exact tile configuration and location of some bolts.

[Anonymous No.15250308]

>>15250274
He is talking about how the dude reads text at least 3x wider than any reasonable typesetter advises.

[Anonymous No.15250312]

H3 got scrubbed to the 6th

[Anonymous No.15250315]

>>15250312
F

[Anonymous No.15250316]

>>15250312
It's okay, I'm out of town for the weekend, now I can get all cozy to watch the launch.

[Anonymous No.15250337]

>s24 roll out soon
hope it breaks up and a piece lands on everyone who says two weeks

[Anonymous No.15250351]

>>15250337
you just said it

[Anonymous No.15250361]

>>15250351
out fucking played

[Anonymous No.15250370]

>>15250351
I don't understand how "daddy Elon please kill me with your giant stainless rocket penis uwu" is a controversial statement

[Anonymous No.15250454]

How does spaceflight benefit from the smartphone industry?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X4frIQo7x0

[Anonymous No.15250462]

>>15250091
Here's the source lmao

[Anonymous No.15250469]

>>15250462
Oh wow
I guess space really IS hard

[Anonymous No.15250507]

>>15250462
Even better

[Anonymous No.15250531]

[Anonymous No.15250541]

>>15249747
It's really nice Anon, good job

[Anonymous No.15250560]

[Anonymous No.15250575]

>>15250462
it simply is not that easy in rocketry

[Anonymous No.15250576]

[Anonymous No.15250585]

The collagefag is amogus

[Anonymous No.15250586]

[Anonymous No.15250589]

They are never going to launch this rocket lol.
They are just going to roll them back and forth, and stack/ de-stack them every couple of weeks.

[Anonymous No.15250590]

Another episode
Percy and Ingenuity meet again
https://youtu.be/qr09MFqY3Dk

[Anonymous No.15250597]

[Anonymous No.15250611]

>>15250590
why wont you DIE

[Anonymous No.15250613]

>>15250611
JPL is unbelievably autistic

[Anonymous No.15250615]

[Anonymous No.15250618]

Could launching a nuclear reactor justify an expendable starship? I know there are small reactors by what about a mid size or big one, say a submarine reactor?

Are we still aiming for mid march orbital flight?

[Anonymous No.15250621]

>>15250615
ACK!

[Anonymous No.15250624]

>>15250618
Anything could justify an expendable launch if you're willing to pay for the vehicle.

[Anonymous No.15250628]

>>15250624
How many things weight more than 150 tons and are reaaaally impractical to assemble in orbit?

[Anonymous No.15250633]

Musk's fight with a sumo wrestler nearly destroyed his space/tesla career. He got a broken neck disc crushed.

[Anonymous No.15250635]

>>15249113
based confusion enjoyer

[Anonymous No.15250655]

>>15250633

[Anonymous No.15250668]

>>15250611
It needed to outlive Zhurong

[Anonymous No.15250689]

[Anonymous No.15250692]

>>15248950
This work was already done 10+ years ago

[Anonymous No.15250702]

>>15249811
https://www.figma.com/file/WO90O5hVi53C0zATfEhHlN/Tesla-%2F-SpaceX-Alumni-Map?node-id=0%3A1

You don't say...

[Anonymous No.15250704]

>>15249987
I don't even care that it's gay to correct you
I will dunk on you for being so wrong
It's レディット, just the way it sounds.

[Anonymous No.15250715]

>>15250702
>stellar pizza
nigga what? how do rockets relate to pizza?

[Anonymous No.15250722]

[Anonymous No.15250777]

[Anonymous No.15250791]

>>15249990
>>15250037
>NASA delays Artemis moon missions out of critical need to fly Orion to ISS
That would be awful

[Anonymous No.15250806]

>>15250777

[Anonymous No.15250807]

>>15249807
>remains the company’s only acquisition in its 21-year history.
Oh wow, never knew

[Anonymous No.15250811]

>>15250791
>"We're just not ready to return to the moon, there's lots of important work that needs doing in LEO before we're ready to start thinking about that. Maybe in 2035 :)"

[Anonymous No.15250815]

>>15250811
!!

[Anonymous No.15250824]

>>15249990
That won't happen, even if NASA has to greenlight THIS.

[Anonymous No.15250828]

[Anonymous No.15250834]

>>15250824
*vibrations shake you into a puddle with bones in it*

[Anonymous No.15250836]

>>15250834
I still dont understand the FUD about solids. Literally the safest, most reliable ride to orbit

[Anonymous No.15250856]

>Hey, my name is Jenna Kay - I work at NASA and have 10+ tattoos. My ability to successfully complete my job is not correlated with my creative self expression. There are also astronauts with tattoos! I’m quite positive her daughter will end up as my co-worker one day.
https://twitter.com/jennakaycosmic/status/1584262805816897536

[Anonymous No.15250865]

>I worked at NASA JPL and currently work in aerospace with an arm full of tattoos, a septum piercing, and a nose piercing.
>Your appearance and the way you choose to express yourself should not have any effect on whether you can get a job or not!
https://twitter.com/solarrsystem/status/1584271497895739392

[Anonymous No.15250872]

>>15250865
I actually miss the days when having egregious tattoos made you almost completely unemployable. I hope this bitch wanders too close to an active MRI machine.

[Anonymous No.15250874]

>another episode of anon browses twitter to find things to get upset about

[Anonymous No.15250884]

can i make it as a midwit (115 IQ) in aerospace engineering?

[Anonymous No.15250891]

>>15250874
What more is there to life?
2 weeks might as well be 2 decades away to the average zoomer/millenial adhd brain

[Anonymous No.15250936]

>>15250874
t. tattooed, pierced freakshow exhibit

[Anonymous No.15250942]

>>15250091
>Is this true?
Not really lol. Being the devil's advocate for a moment, the only thing they have to do to keep costs down is have the same guys building Merlins building Raptors. They'll never have a significant portion of idle guys on the assembly line that way.

[Anonymous No.15250971]

>>15250891
Playing KSP for several months straight to colonize the whole solar system

[Anonymous No.15250989]

>>15250891
Don't you have a job, hobby or something else to do?

[Anonymous No.15250991]

>>15250971
just sent off four Eve missions in this synod
so far I've got communications on the way for Eve and Duna has rovers and communications on location

[Anonymous No.15251007]

>russia might buy whole dragon flights to the iss
rogozin is spinning in his hospital bed

[Anonymous No.15251008]

>>15250091
>>15250942
Both the marginal cost and the total cost per engine will generally decrease as you build more, so reusing engines does in fact increase cost per engine. It's insane to suggest that reusable falcon is not as profitable though, that would require a negative marginal cost. I don't know what math that anon tried to do, but it's wrong. I would guess he tried to calculate the marginal cost to SpaceX to build 150th Block 5 Falcon 9 and then assumed that marginal cost was equal to the cost of each rocket, which obviously is not the case. Your fixed cost + the marginal cost for 18 boosters is identical regardless if you reuse or not. In the second case, the marginal cost per booster will be much lower, and the total cost per booster will significantly decrease as your fixed costs become a lower portion of the whole. Either way, building more boosters incures more costs and is more expensive, even if the marginal cost per booster decreases. They also couldn't hit the current cadence with their current production capacity so expendable F9s would also have substantially higher fixed costs. SpaceX most likely employs dozens of people with assorted PhDs in economics, process engineering, and a smattering of other fields whose sole job is to maximize profit per rocket, some random dumbfuck did not figure out how to make SpaceX more profitable by simply expending rockets.

tl;dr Just break windows, make infinite profit with this one easy trick, economists hate him.

[Anonymous No.15251013]

>>15251007
thats not what that says re-read it retard its just for additional integrated crew flights for crew-8 and crew-9

[Anonymous No.15251018]

>>15250989
that is my hobby

[Anonymous No.15251024]

it's happening

[Anonymous No.15251029]

>>15251008
> SpaceX most likely employs dozens of people with assorted PhDs in economics, process engineering, and a smattering of other fields whose sole job is to maximize profit per rocket, some random dumbfuck did not figure out how to make SpaceX more profitable by simply expending rockets.

but you forget the most critical assumption this guy makes
elon is a moron and succeeds despite this through monumental achievement of these geniuses that work for him, but sometimes he railroads retarded decisions like reuse
i see this a lot, assumeTesla/spaceX is wrong because they are connected to musk and musk is dumb and wrong, then you work backwards to build some theory that supports it

[Anonymous No.15251035]

>>15250991
I installed the outerplanets mod a few weeks back and have spent the time since building up a Laythe colony and support structure in the rest of the Jool system to use it as a spaceport. I hadn't planned on it originally but as the idea evolved I've added the extraplanetary launchpad mod to turn the Laythe colony into a space center, I'm starting to park spent transfer stages around Pol and refueling them. Once a pair of station trusses arrive they'll all plug onto it and form a massive depot/shipyard where vessels can fuel up and depart Jool at minimal loss. I've got some assets out to the outer worlds (except Plok) and more on the way but the closest one has a transit time of a decade so I've been slow to assemble a manned mission. The cryo mod will be helpful for the long drift.

[Anonymous No.15251040]

>>15251024
are they going to send tens of billions dollars to the middle of the Utah desert to be burned

[Anonymous No.15251042]

>>15251024
I have no idea what this is but the graphic on the front page pretty much screams "has nothing to do with the Space Launch System."

[Anonymous No.15251048]

>>15251024
>>15251042

[Anonymous No.15251056]

>>15250715
Who the fuck knows anon. Just, that, SpaceX and Tesla, cumulatively, are building a whole new generation of companies and to be corporations. Both companies are effectively Y-Combinator super concentrators. They suck up all the best talent in the world, indoctrinate them to think from first principles, make them masters of their craft, and then give them an option: "stay here and keep going or leave and make your own impact on the world."

Like how kings and queens build castles and cities around them, creating the greatest of moats, same is happening here.

[Anonymous No.15251071]

>>15251048
Interesting. Thanks

[Anonymous No.15251086]

>>15250715
They make pizza robots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb1Q5hKbZnU

[Anonymous No.15251091]

>>15250462
So its some vatnik schizo?

[Anonymous No.15251097]

>>15251091
Seemed more like someone who watched too much of thunderfag

[Anonymous No.15251099]

[Anonymous No.15251102]

[Anonymous No.15251115]

They put imax camera on top of the tower

[Anonymous No.15251116]

>>15251115
kino incoming

[Anonymous No.15251118]

>>15251024
This was a warning. A threat.

And we ignored it.

[Anonymous No.15251131]

>>15251115
Oh my fucking god

[Anonymous No.15251142]

>>15251115
I hope imax is ambivalent about getting that back. Superheavy is the kind of booster you need to have some very serious thoughts about before you stand in the same postal code as a launch.

[Anonymous No.15251146]

https://twitter.com/lrocket/status/1632461576317054976

kek, called them out

[Anonymous No.15251147]

>>15251115
I see that they're going for. Similar angle to the link below, except you'll be able to see the top of the rocket.
https://youtu.be/sXL5PJoyw_o

[Anonymous No.15251152]

>>15251115
Special IMAX screenings of a film of the first Starship launch after the fact?
If the launch goes well, that would be pretty dope. Little hour-long documentary with fantastic launch footage, I'd go see it. Maybe only five times.

[Anonymous No.15251156]

>>15251142
I have the feeling that Elon can pay them for their camera if it blows up

[Anonymous No.15251158]

>>15251152
>>15251115
>IMAX Presents: STARSHIP
>features launch footage
>features in space footage
>features landing on moon footage from Demo HLS and Artemis III

I'd cum so hard

[Anonymous No.15251161]

>>15251156
I thought he was broke?

[Anonymous No.15251162]

>>15251115
I haven't kept up with Starship development in months, have they set up a date or a window for the launch since the IMAX camera is there, or is the FAA still being cunts?

[Anonymous No.15251163]

>>15251158
Imagine if they could get a camera on the moon to record HLS descent

[Anonymous No.15251168]

>>15251162
At this moment all required test have been completed and they have to finish the shielding on the launch table. The big question is whether they decide to build the water deluge system before or after the first launch. If they decide to postpone it, I suspect that FAA license will come when that shielding is finished. That could be ~3 weeks.

[Anonymous No.15251170]

>>15251163
A robot lander with a radar beacon and camera is a good idea tbpf

[Anonymous No.15251177]

>>15251115

[Anonymous No.15251189]

>>15251115
Biggest explosion recorded with 4K camera

[Anonymous No.15251192]

>>15251189
70mm film is much, much bigger than 4k.

[Anonymous No.15251193]

[Anonymous No.15251195]

We are a third into the two weeks of March when the launch will happen for sure.

[Anonymous No.15251196]

>>15251115
Now they can fail to deliver in 4K.

[Anonymous No.15251199]

>>15251163
>You're not getting this one back, IMAX
>At least not for a few years

[Anonymous No.15251204]

>>15249354
>forgetting the half ton bearing block falling from the tower

[Anonymous No.15251235]

>>15250628
your mom

[Anonymous No.15251241]

>>15251115

[Anonymous No.15251242]

>>15251115
How come you get TWO cursors, leave some for the rest of us

[Anonymous No.15251246]

>>15251115
k i n o

[Anonymous No.15251255]

>>15249927
>>15249931
OOOOOOH
IM SOLID ROCKET BOOOOOOOOOSTING

[Anonymous No.15251259]

>>15250865
I would.

[Anonymous No.15251260]

>one week into march already
>still no news about starship launch
june it is then

[Anonymous No.15251262]

>>15251255
>breaks ur carbon-carbon

[Anonymous No.15251276]

>>15250585
This

[Anonymous No.15251281]

>>15251260
Only once you lost your last bit of hope will it launch

[Anonymous No.15251286]

>>15250856
She's SUCH a slut. God damn I want to fuck her

[Anonymous No.15251292]

stage it

[Anonymous No.15251294]

>>15250884
It's really about if you have good drive and ability to work in a concentrated manner without pause for extended periods of time every day.
If you get a lot done then ygmi.

[Anonymous No.15251295]

>>15251292
no, let it die

[Anonymous No.15251305]

>>15250865
>>15250872
Blame SpaceX. In Vance's book there's a whole part where he's describing going into the Vandenburg factory and passing dudes totally sleeved up and pierced out working on the engine bells while listening to speed metal.

[Anonymous No.15251320]

>>15251115
This scrub brought to you by imax 2000k ultramaxx HD 4D; feel the disappointment

[Anonymous No.15251323]

>>15251292

use this, reusable threads

>>15246508
>>15246508
>>15246508
>>15246508
>>15246508

[Anonymous No.15251325]

>>15251323
>reusable thread
>ULA edition

[Anonymous No.15251333]

>>15251323
When will this reusable thread meme die

[Anonymous No.15251337]

>>15251323
very SMART

[Anonymous No.15251342]

>>15251323
We should be able to reuse threads up to at least 10 times without needing refurbishment.

[Anonymous No.15251349]

>>15251342
The cost of necroing the thread and bringing it back to page one will always far exceed the cost of posting a new thread muskrat

[Anonymous No.15251394]

>>15251323
>>15251342
Let us say we had ten guaranteed threads per year in Europe and we had a thread which we can use ten times—we would build exactly one thread per year," he said. "That makes no sense. I cannot tell my teams: 'Goodbye, see you next year

[Anonymous No.15251406]

>>15251394
I see something like this and I hear "We only have enough interest in the subject to undertake ten discussions per year." That's not really being interested or invested in a topic, and it's not thinking about the possibility of engaging new people in the discussion. It's a complete failure of imagination and ambition.

As always, Europe is built on a foundation of mediocrity and shame.

[Anonymous No.15251425]

>>15251406
Reusable threads are real, you've seen them down at /sci/.

[Anonymous No.15251429]

>>15251323
are we really going to go with a bezos thread?

[Anonymous No.15251775]

>>15249297
>there's now 10 instead of 3 dots moving through the sky every hour
Ahhh I'm going insane! I feel the need to reject my ancestral beliefs! I will set out from my village and go to somewhere where there's toilets and health care and I will live past 40! Hahahahahaha! Madness has now come over me!

[Anonymous No.15251898]

>>15251429
yes, and its based