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[Anonymous No.15224214]

prev >>15220766

2 weeks edition

[Anonymous No.15224220]

First for Titan

[Anonymous No.15224226]

>>15224220
That's Venus, idiot.

[Anonymous No.15224234]

I want to drink the jupiter coffee

[Anonymous No.15224237]

>>15224220
first for Venus

[Anonymous No.15224242]

>>15224214
Ksp2 tomorrow
Whomst getting it?
I'm going to wait until they actually release science and career mode.
Also no mining on release which is stupid.

I have a sneaking suspicion that their primary target audience isn't 30 year old midwits. Ksp1 was kind of agnostic with its target audience, but ksp2 doesn't seem to be.
I think the difficulty curve is going to be far too easy even on hard and modding won't be accessible for quite some time.

[Anonymous No.15224245]

fifth for orbital skydiving (spacediving?)

[Anonymous No.15224246]

Still a planet

[Anonymous No.15224251]

>>15224145
>>15224149
Yea, but the masses of everything are fucked anyway. It's called game-scaling dumbasses

[Anonymous No.15224255]

>>15224246
It has an atmosphere, which should automatically promote a dwarf planet to full planet.

[Anonymous No.15224259]

>>15224246
I never understood why people care so much about this. Is it just that you cannot understand that whatever you learn in elementary school isn't absolute truth forever?

[Anonymous No.15224260]

>>15224251
The ion engine in KSP 2 is 250 kilograms, the closet approximation to it in real life is the Aerojet Rocketdyne X3 which is 370 times less powerful despite having 1,550 seconds less ISP in it's most economical mode which undoubtedly is lower in thrust.

In summary, you can fuck right off. Only a retarded person would try to insist that KSP is realistic.

[Anonymous No.15224262]

>>15224259
No one cares, its just a false care. Sort of like someone saying "I care about the trees or world peace" but they really don't. They just say they do, but they forget about it the next second. They dont care about any of the matters that relate to it. Its just a virtue signal in the vainest sense.

[Anonymous No.15224263]

>>15224259
It's the manner in which it was presented. A taxonomic change, which might some day be reversed, was presented as being a major scientific breakthrough. Also it felt like gaslighting a little - it was never presented like
>for many years, the definition of Planet was unclear and included Pluto, but t has recently been changed.
Instead it was
>Pluto? What's that? Never heard of it.

[Anonymous No.15224266]

>>15224259
>whatever you learn in elementary school isn't absolute truth forever?
Some people just don't get this.
For years, our best theory was that Pluto was a planet.
But then new evidence came to light that disproved this theory.
Science wins in the end.

[Anonymous No.15224269]

>>15224260
I wasn't saying its realistic. I'm saying that they deliberately buffed ion engines because all the other spacecraft components are unreasonably heavy (the smallest probe core is like 50kg).

[Anonymous No.15224272]

>>15224269
"kg" stands for "kerbalgrams"

[Anonymous No.15224275]

>>15224242
I'll probably be getting it, but I might wait a day or two just to see some benchmarks. No point in buying it if it's full on unplayable.

[Anonymous No.15224278]

>>15224246
You will never be a real planet. You have no metallic core, you have no gravitational dominance, you have no atmosphere. You are a planetoid twisted by gravity and Kozai mechanism into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. The proto-planetary dust cloud that formed you is disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.
Astronomers are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of discovery have allowed scientists to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even dwarf planets who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to an astronomer. Your miniscule mass is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk astronomer to declare you a planet, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your off-putting, skewed orbital inclination .
You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear – you’ll encounter Neptune, get thrown off your orbit, and plunge into the cold abyss. Future astronomers will track you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll eventually forget about you and every passerby for the rest of eternity will never know a planetoid was there. Your celestial body will broke up and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is an object that was unmistakably an asteroid.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

[Anonymous No.15224283]

>>15224266
As >>15224263 said, it's not even a question of theory, it's just definition.
But I saw way more people complaining of the name change as if it really changed anything than people claiming it was a "major scientific breakthrough"

[Anonymous No.15224288]

>>15224278
>you have no atmosphere
See >>15224255
and die mad

[Anonymous No.15224293]

>>15224255
So does the Moon, but you always call it an airless body.

[Anonymous No.15224295]

>>15224278
that was somehow even more brutal than the original.

[Anonymous No.15224297]

>>15224288
>1 Pa
>atmosphere

[Anonymous No.15224299]

>>15224278
Pluto always triggered my autism as a kid. Like you got all these big gas planets and then a tiny fucker out of nowhere disrupting the pattern. Then it had a whacky tilted elliptical orbit. So when you looked at a diagram of the solar system it was all normal planets and then Pluto doing its own thing.

[Anonymous No.15224308]

>>15224251
you absolute fucking retard
KSP's scale is smaller than the real one. Appropriately the chemical engines in KSP are weaker than the real equivalents. Why should the ion engine be randomly orders of magnitude stronger instead?

[Anonymous No.15224311]

>>15224308
Gameplay reasons, so you would burn for a minute, not hours.

[Anonymous No.15224314]

>>15224246
yes correct, a dwarf planet.

[Anonymous No.15224320]

>>15224246
>false color pink Pluto
>caring what random astronomers have to say
begone

[Anonymous No.15224321]

>>15224269
Unless you're saying that parts in KSP are at least 370 times heavier than their in real life counterparts, which isn't the case, your point is equally as retarded and untrue.
>>15224242
>I think the difficulty curve is going to be far too easy even on hard
They now allow for pausing the game in time-warp, no more panicking trying to set things up before a maneuver and during landing. KSP is a victim of its own success, 90% of the playerbase are dicksuckers who will jump in front of a bus to defend any poor design choice, like how the game is nearly full price despite that it's in early access with no features and only a few percent of gaming PCs meet the recommended specifications, most don't even meet the minimum. The only thing that was done well is the tutorial which people who played the first game don't need. Basically they put everyone over a barrel and said "pay full price for a game we may or may not finish to any reasonable standard which you may or may not be able to run in the future".
>>15224311
They added time-warp under acceleration because people wanted realistic low thrust engines and orbital maneuvers, this defeats the purpose.

[Anonymous No.15224325]

>>15224311
so they should make a totally busted ion engine as a bandaid solution instead of fixing the actual issue of not being able to accelerate time under thrust.
Which is the one good thing the hack devs actually did.

[Anonymous No.15224326]

fuck ksp
children of a dead earth 2 when?

[Anonymous No.15224330]

>>15224321
You certainly take your cartoon rocketship game very seriously.

[Anonymous No.15224334]

>>15224330

[Anonymous No.15224337]

>>15224330
>w-well u may have proved me wrong but u care too much about this subject so there!
Saw this one coming a mile away.

[Anonymous No.15224338]

fucked up that a bad space game is the biggest space news in a while

[Anonymous No.15224341]

>>15224338
The chinese rover broke down. That's news, right?

[Anonymous No.15224342]

>>15224338
its just euro/asia hours. little goes on during that time.

[Anonymous No.15224345]

>>15224299
Why don't we bring Pluto into the culture wars and call it a trans planet.

[Anonymous No.15224347]

>>15224242
Not getting it.
I have no respect for people who don't take software seriously.
The disparity between how it could perform and how it performs is too great.

[Anonymous No.15224376]

>>15224345
It is the original trans neptunian object.

[Anonymous No.15224384]

>>15224321
I didn't mean decent features. I do actually like that feature.
I mean adding op parts or weakening the physics engine.
I have concerns that is what they've done.
And if you imagine you're building a game for the majority audience (kids), then i'm aftaid they have put in a good enough target for the physics engine.

Would be a real shame to loose the creativity that ksp1 inspired

[Anonymous No.15224390]

[Anonymous No.15224401]

>>15224220
you and it disgust me

[Anonymous No.15224404]

[Anonymous No.15224409]

[Anonymous No.15224420]

>>15224246
Tombaugh was a ufo kook, nothing he discovered should be respected
>Tombaugh was probably the preeminent astronomer to have reported seeing Unidentified Flying Objects. On August 20, 1949, Tombaugh saw several UFOs near Las Cruces, New Mexico. He described them as six to eight rectangular lights, stating "I doubt that the phenomenon was any terrestrial reflection, because... nothing of the kind has ever appeared before or since... I was so unprepared for such a strange sight that I was really petrified with astonishment."
>Tombaugh was also later to report having seen three of the mysterious Green Fireballs, which suddenly appeared over New Mexico in late 1948 and continued at least through the early 1950s. In 1956 Tombaugh had the following to say about his various sightings: "I have seen three objects in the last seven years which defied any explanation of known phenomenon, such as Venus, atmospheric optic, meteors or planes. I am a professional, highly skilled, professional astronomer. In addition I have seen three green fireballs which were unusual in behavior from normal green fireballs...I think that several reputable scientists are being unscientific in refusing to entertain the possibility of extraterrestrial origin and nature."
>In 1949, Tombaugh had also told the Naval missile director at White Sands Missile Range, Commander Robert McLaughlin, that he had seen a bright flash on Mars in August 1941, which he now attributed to an atomic blast (mentioned May 12, 1949, in a letter from McLaughlin to Dr. James van Allen). [3] Tombaugh also noted that the first atomic bomb tested in New Mexico would have lit up the dark side of the Earth like a neon sign and that Mars was coincidentally quite close at the time, the implication apparently being that the atomic test would have been visible from Mars.

[Anonymous No.15224448]

chinese launch about an hour and a half ago

>LM-3B w/ ChinaSat 26, a new Chinese Ka-band high throughput (HTS) comsat covering the whole of China, Eastern Asia and down to Australia

[Anonymous No.15224451]

>>15224390
Are we finally going?

[Anonymous No.15224452]

>>15224226
it's a cue ball

[Anonymous No.15224459]

>>15224409
White again? So stale and unrealistic.
Should be dark and metallic, covered with all kinds of crap.

[Anonymous No.15224463]

>>15224420
sounds like the average /sci/ poster

[Anonymous No.15224464]

>>15224448
https://twitter.com/cosmic_penguin/status/1628726602145366016
No footage of the actual launch yet, but someone in the area caught it on ascent.

[Anonymous No.15224465]

>>15224404
closer images of the chinese baloons

[Anonymous No.15224466]

>>15224459
Bottom half are metallic, atleast until they get painted up.

[Anonymous No.15224468]

>>15224404
>nice ride faggot
>y-you too

[Anonymous No.15224469]

>>15224465
>>15224404
Lightweight solar panels + electrical propulsions.

[Anonymous No.15224472]

>>15224464
https://twitter.com/cosmic_penguin/status/1628732707990806529
And here’s the launch

[Anonymous No.15224475]

>it only took her two weeks to crack
Pirate kerbal bros.. there is still hope.

[Anonymous No.15224478]

>>15224469
What are the spaceflight ramifications of such technologies?

[Anonymous No.15224481]

>>15224266
Brainlet, planet has no scientific definition. it's a term we made up to describe something from our point of view
they decided there are simply too many objects similar to pluto to include them all as planets so it would just be easier to say pluto isn't a planet like all those other objects
8 is better than several hundred or whatever

None of it really makes sense anyways. The rocky inner planets and gaseous outer planets don't have much in common

[Anonymous No.15224482]

>>15224466
this has to be bait

[Anonymous No.15224483]

>>15224475
KSP2 doesn't even have denuvo. It will be cracked in a day or two.

[Anonymous No.15224484]

>>15224469
>electrical propulsions
i hate ESLfags so much it's unreal.
also no it doesn't have propellers just a compressor and weather model.

[Anonymous No.15224489]

>>15224478
None. Its only for places with atmosphere that can be harnessed

[Anonymous No.15224492]

>>15224484
these are propellers

[Anonymous No.15224501]

>>15224246
Nope

[Anonymous No.15224503]

>>15224390
wtf does that even mean

[Anonymous No.15224508]

>>15224503
press passes are now for sale for Starship

[Anonymous No.15224511]

>>15224489
That means it could work on Pluto (the ninth planet)

[Anonymous No.15224512]

>>15224508

[Anonymous No.15224515]

>>15224492
So they can't claim it's harmless weather balloons now right?

[Anonymous No.15224521]

What are the chances Starship lanches first try? like no scrub

[Anonymous No.15224524]

>>15224521
pretty good chances.

[Anonymous No.15224525]

>>15224521
80% imo.

As for other parts of the test, its unknown.

>stage separation
>reaching orbit
>stable starlink livestream connection
>surving reentry
>proper "landing" in ocean

[Anonymous No.15224526]

>>15224524
wonder how many days to retry after scrub

[Anonymous No.15224528]

>>15224320
>false color
looks real to me

[Anonymous No.15224532]

>>15224508
>sale
They're being sent. RGV dude got one.

[Anonymous No.15224536]

>>15224515
it looks just like an advanced weather balloon to me because that looks the same as a spy balloon

[Anonymous No.15224634]

>>15224288
>freezes out shortly after perihelion
lol
lmao even

[Anonymous No.15224644]

>>15224511
its happening

[Anonymous No.15224689]

>>15224242
I was gonna wait until colonies and the first part of interstellar was out, but now I think I'll do what >>15224275 is doing
>>15224326
Is that actually a thing, I have no idea what the dev is actually doing nowadays.
>>15224321
>They added time-warp under acceleration
So a better physics warp?

[Anonymous No.15224690]

>>15224465
I looks like they literally just attached a spy satellite to a balloon.

[Anonymous No.15224696]

>>15224511
you mean the tenth, nigger?
if pluto is a planet ceres is a planet

[Anonymous No.15224699]

>>15224696
NOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.15224703]

Planet Makemake

[Anonymous No.15224704]

>>15224145
but NEXT can do 17 MN...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEXT_(ion_thruster)

[Anonymous No.15224713]

>>15224704
that's MN times seconds (a measure of engine lifetime), it can only produce about 237 mN of thrust

[Anonymous No.15224726]

>>15224703
What a stupid name, even George Lucas would reject that

[Anonymous No.15224731]

>>15224726
they took away the naming rights from the spanish and gave them to some faggot americans who immediately named it after some minority's god

[Anonymous No.15224737]

>>15224726
Fine, what about planets Haumea, Hi'iaka or Quaoar? Don't forget Quaroar's moon Weywot.

[Anonymous No.15224747]

We never should've let Hawaiians name shit.

[Anonymous No.15224750]

>Planet x will never be named kek

[Anonymous No.15224758]

>>15224737
>Haumea
meh but ok
>Quaoar
I like it
>Weywot
meh but ok
>Hi'iaka
cringe

[Anonymous No.15224765]

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1628769962591416320

[Anonymous No.15224772]

>>15224765
sounds risky as shit, if isaacman dies up there they will come down on elon hard.

[Anonymous No.15224781]

>>15224765
Jared is so fucking based

[Anonymous No.15224784]

How do we convince Isaacman to do a venus flyby in a dragon

[Anonymous No.15224787]

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1628777961213288450

Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong door.
E*RTHERS Club is 2 blocks down.

[Anonymous No.15224796]

>>15224787
it's over https://www.ada-compliance.com/ada-compliance/ada-elevators.html

>All elevator hoistway entrances shall have raised and Braille floor designations provided on both jambs

how long till someone sues SpaceX?

[Anonymous No.15224799]

>>15224796
Fuck you

[Anonymous No.15224802]

>>15224787
For comparison with NASA era etching

[Anonymous No.15224804]

>>15224796
The part is no part. We can simplify the design by simply barring entry to blind people. Hopefully NASA never asks us to send up a blind astronaut.

[Anonymous No.15224833]

Inshallah Terran 1 will success

[Anonymous No.15224841]

MS-23 bros how are we feeling?

[Anonymous No.15224858]

>N2O4/Pentaborane Starship

[Anonymous No.15224876]

>>15224841
I wish them a safe abort.

[Anonymous No.15224883]

>>15224260
>>15224321
Arguing about realism in a space game that only supports two body physics is retarded. It's already a massive simplification, the orbits are trivial. It's a fun distraction, if you're a big boy and you need serious big boy software for someone important like yourself, download GMAT and get cracking.

[Anonymous No.15224911]

>>15224528
Why did Tim have to make this face during the engine fire? It was cool, yes, but couldn't he at least crack a smile instead?

[Anonymous No.15224942]

>>15224911
Isn't surprise the correct emotion for Stoke?

[Anonymous No.15224949]

>>15224942
It is correct, but I can't help but see the resemblance to the 'jaks.

BTW, someone should make an FAA variant of pic.

[Anonymous No.15224960]

>>15224949
OI MATE

[Anonymous No.15224965]

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1628801563824103425

[Anonymous No.15224968]

Work on the orbital launch mount continues

[Anonymous No.15224995]

>>15224965
Perfectly normal.

[Anonymous No.15225007]

>>15224968
Gwynn is meeting with Fish and Wildlife officials it seems.

[Anonymous No.15225011]

>>15224995
>Government nonsensically underlaid
>and Related
>humanflight
highly schizophrenic and ESL image

[Anonymous No.15225015]

>>15224965
>>15224995
Forgot the important part.

[Anonymous No.15225019]

>>15225015
Nearly 3X revenue growth from Starlink.

If this is accurate, then Starship's 3-6B and Starlink's 3-10B projects gets paid off pretty fast.

[Anonymous No.15225035]

>>15224259
>>15224263
>>15224266
>>15224283
>>15224481
This isn't a scientific discovery, this is just a discussion about definitions, and the definition for planets happens to be shit.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0019103521004206

[Anonymous No.15225074]

>>15225019
Insane how fast Starlink went from two test satellites to exceeding Spacex's launch revenue.
4-5 years vs 20

[Anonymous No.15225082]

Looks like tesla isn't doing so hot
https://youtu.be/xpUIZ32n9nw

[Anonymous No.15225084]

>>15224251
>>15224149
2kN at 4200s Isp implies 2000÷(9.81×4200)=0.04854kg/s mass flow. Plugging in 1170kJ/mol and a molar mass of 131 for Xenon's properties, we get about 8.9MW of delivered electricity required to speed up that propellant, which means given efficiency losses for conversion you'd need about a 90MWth nuclear reactor to power the damn thing. It's a complete joke.

[Anonymous No.15225091]

>>15225084
scratch that I forgot to multiply by mass flow properly, you'd need a 400KWe thruster and probably a 4MWth reactor, or 800KWe of photovoltaics

[Anonymous No.15225097]

>>15224481
>they decided there are simply too many objects similar to pluto to include them all as planets
The children must know the 13 planets: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Ceres, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Eris, Haumea, and Makemake. For extra credit on the quiz, you may also list Gonggong, Quaoar, Sedna, and Orcus

[Anonymous No.15225106]

>>15225082
One advantage Tesla still has that Musk autism has helped shave off costs from production. They can sell cheaper EVs than their competitors and still make a profit.

https://companiesmarketcap.com/automakers/automakers-ranked-by-operating-margin/

[Anonymous No.15225125]

>>15224260
The ion engine has more thrust so you don’t have to burn for literal fucking months

[Anonymous No.15225129]

>>15224246
Based

[Anonymous No.15225133]

>>15224266
Is this a troll post?

[Anonymous No.15225137]

>>15224481
A planet is any natural object in space massive enough to maintain hydrostatic equilibrium yet too small to perform fusion. There you go, that’s a planet.

[Anonymous No.15225154]

>>15225133
Neil Degrasse Tyson made that post.

[Anonymous No.15225157]

>>15225019
Hard to say for sure how fast anything gets paid off without knowing their CAPEX, which is probably very high at the moment. That said, with Starlink basically paying for everything, Starship/Superheavy launch costs will probably be wholesaled on the basis of grossly excessive off-peak capacity.

[Anonymous No.15225160]

>>15225154
He probably thinks 4Chan is a conservative science denial forum.

[Anonymous No.15225166]

>>15225082
Reasonable video. My guess is they are simply incapable of making cybertruck sooner or improving quality yesterday without devastating losses.
I don't think it's some sort of miscalculation it's just the lines must at all times keep moving and ramping or it would be a disaster especially being publically traded and all.

[Anonymous No.15225178]

>>15224242
I'm going to get it, complain about performance, then let it sit in my library for a year before playing it again

[Anonymous No.15225188]

>>15224483
*an hour or two

[Anonymous No.15225211]

Thanks to this getting posted last thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eFD_Wj6dhk
I am becoming a dynamic soaring autist
https://newatlas.com/aircraft/dynamic-soaring-speed-record-spencer-lisenby/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv7-YM4wno8

[Anonymous No.15225214]

>>15225137
Shit I forgot about my own custom planetary classification system

[Anonymous No.15225241]

>>15225082
Starts by saying they aren't producing enough cars to keep up with sales and deliveries
Ends with Elon bad because his tweets reduced sales
Can't even keep a coherent narrative for 15 minutes, fuck off
Also he keeps mentioning Rivian and Hummer like they're competition, meanwhile they make like 3000 cars a year lol

[Anonymous No.15225249]

>>15225137
This is dumb. This would make Pluto and Ceres a planet, but Haumea might not be. This is too vague

[Anonymous No.15225252]

>>15225082
Rivian recalled all of their cars. Toyota had to put a stop production order because the car's wheel would fall off. GM had to put stop production order because batteries catch on fire.

Its nonsensical video driven by political narrative. Meanwhile Tesla continues to hit >50 YoY growth rate for 10 years straight.

[Anonymous No.15225261]

If its mass is less than Mercury (0.055 M⊕) it isn't a planet.
Simple as.

[Anonymous No.15225262]

>>15225249
I think Haumea would count, it's just elongated (kek) because of the fast rotation or something.

[Anonymous No.15225263]

>>15225241
He claims his tweets reduce the potential customer base. The new customers that Tesla needs to grow.
Those brands compete with the Cybertruck which is slated for low rate production this year.
Ford delivered around 14k electric F-150 in 2022.
Rivian produced 24k EVs in 2022
Hummer 1k
Cybertruck 0.

[Anonymous No.15225277]

>>15225263
There are 8 billion people and growing. You're not suggesting that that all of those billions are woke trash from sanfrancisco are you?

[Anonymous No.15225278]

>>15225211
Launch a dynamic soaring shuttle into space with a hurricane. Too bad the physics don't work out. lol

[Anonymous No.15225282]

>>15225263
>Those brands compete with the Cybertruck which is slated for low rate production this year.

Are you saying because Cyber truck hasn't been made in 2022, that it wont ever sell any cybertruck? If Tesla is known for anything, its their rapid scale. They can easily sell tens of thousands in 2023 if production starts this year.

[Anonymous No.15225286]

>>15225277
>and growing
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.15225291]

>>15225286
WEF and Bill Gates may have plans to kill off 7+ billion people, but that would still leave billion customers

[Anonymous No.15225297]

>>15225277
Califags will buy EVs for environmental sentiments and will tolerate more crappines and higher prices. Normies will buy EVs only if they beat ICE cars in nearly every aspect. They are also very sensitive to the initial purchase price.

[Anonymous No.15225300]

not sure how I feel about VW taking over the EV market

[Anonymous No.15225305]

>>15225282
It better not have many teething problems or the established competitors might be more appealing. In the previous segments Tesla was the first volume producer in the segment. This time they'll be late.

[Anonymous No.15225306]

>>15225261
venus is also chad

[Anonymous No.15225307]

Lmfao the small feet

[Anonymous No.15225309]

>>15225305
>Tesla was the first volume producer in the segment
Its true. And it will still be true. They will likely produce couple thousands of cybertruck this year at the very least. Tesla doesn't consider that "volume", unlike others. They consider volume when it reaches >100K/y production.

[Anonymous No.15225312]

Musk moved the copy link button, why is he so stupid
Also lol
https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1628847535816146944

[Anonymous No.15225332]

>>15225312
what is national security space, is this where you get handouts from government because government doesn't want spacex monopoly?

[Anonymous No.15225340]

>>15225332
Lol at this point in time? Pretty much

[Anonymous No.15225345]

>>15225309
>They will likely produce couple thousands of cybertruck this year at the very least.
Why would they do that? They will either run an entire assembly line or not bother at all

[Anonymous No.15225348]

>>15225345
>what is a ramp

[Anonymous No.15225354]

>>15225348
>what follows a ramp

[Anonymous No.15225355]

>>15225345
Its called ramp up dumbass. Every product has a ramp up time.

[Anonymous No.15225358]

Is a crewed Mercury mission viable? Everyone always talks about mars but no one talks about mercury

[Anonymous No.15225360]

>>15225354
The year 2024

[Anonymous No.15225367]

>>15225358
Can we send Biden/Trump together for a last resort?

[Anonymous No.15225373]

>>15225358
Mercury's surface temperature varies from 430°C at day to -180°C at night, it's like the Moon but a lot worse.

[Anonymous No.15225375]

>>15225249
No it isn’t.

[Anonymous No.15225376]

>>15225358
>>15225373
You could make suits to deal with it. We're just thinking about the moon and mars first which makes sense.

[Anonymous No.15225379]

>>15225376
I don't see much reason to go to Mercury in the end.

[Anonymous No.15225385]

Engine sections for SLS connected

https://twitter.com/theprimaldino/status/1628854641457766400?s=61&t=Y4XmFgqst5QCAb0cYDKP2A

[Anonymous No.15225386]

>>15225309
>They will likely produce couple thousands of cybertruck this year at the very least.
Two more weeks

[Anonymous No.15225389]

>>15225082
>50% y/y production
>several month backlog on the Model Y
>stopped taking orders of the Model 3 LR because the backlog was too fucking long
>growing global automobile market share
he needs to go back to making airplane videos

[Anonymous No.15225391]

>>15225379
Science! Adventure!

[Anonymous No.15225396]

What does this general think of Isaac Arthur

[Anonymous No.15225400]

>>15225379
okay e*rther, you can stay home

[Anonymous No.15225401]

>>15225312
>picture of a mockup
jeeeez

[Anonymous No.15225404]

>>15225396
>>15225401
It's going to look like that they're not painting the welds.

[Anonymous No.15225415]

>>15225391
>>15225400
Look, I would have gone even to the most boring Uranian moon If I had the chance, but that's not how things work.
3 things you need to get a mission are hype, scientific value and not being too expensive.
Mercury is one of the places with the least hype in the Solar System. It looks as boring as the Moon without the novelty of being something we can always look at clearly, there is no real chance of alien life there and no actual prospects of colonization.
Given how no one bothered with a lander to Mercury so far, the scientists are probably satisfied with the data from orbital probes.
And finally, Mercury is the hardest inner planet to arrive, and would require very fancy technology to survive the extreme temperatures.

[Anonymous No.15225420]

>>15225297
>will tolerate more crappines and higher prices
Both are memes.

>crappiness
Tesla quality is the result of fast ramp + first time ramp of building cars. Thats been largely solved already for the last ~3-4 years now. It was the product of their first time scaling up. When they were making <200K cars per year. Now they're one of the best in the industry imo. Pretty soon, they'll be better than any other car maker in history in terms of build quality as they automate their entire car and reduce parts complexity more and more. Model Ys introduced in the last year or so have their complexity reduced by a fuck ton. Model 3 refresh on the horizon (Highlands) will take that parts reliability/simplifaction to the next level.

Cybertruck may however hit a bit of snag early on in the ramp up as they find new challenges in building a new product. But I think they'll adapt quickly.

[Anonymous No.15225421]

I talked about roggets in my elective japanese class today. It was supposed to be a 3 minute presentation but I think mine took about 8 lol. Someone talked about a tidally locked exoplanet and we had a discussion about living on the Terminator, I was not expecting that.
May your rocket autism be reciprocated

[Anonymous No.15225422]

>>15225415
>scientists are probably satisfied with the data from orbital probes
No ones bothered with a Mercury lander because the delta-v requirements just to get there are absurd, and since there's no atmosphere to help burn off speed for you need to bring all of your landing propellant from home. There are plenty of scientists who would want to land some instruments on Mercury if there was a viable way to do so.

[Anonymous No.15225423]

>>15225421
cute

[Anonymous No.15225425]

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1628854210971271169

Shielding continues

[Anonymous No.15225429]

>>15225415
It has polar ice, is abundant in carbon and metals, low gravity, no pesky atmosphere, and has more than six times the solar flux of Earth.
Mercury could be the industrial hub, shipyard, and powerplant of the solar system.

[Anonymous No.15225432]

>>15225422
Still is nowhere as needed as Venus landers, since the atmosphere doesn't let you see anything (Yeah, there is radar but you still can't do other types of analysis).
And this validates more the 3rd point.

[Anonymous No.15225435]

>muh delta-v
just harpoon it during flyby then decelerate on a long wire.

[Anonymous No.15225439]

>>15225432
Work was done on a single-use airplane drone for use on Mars years back, I wonder if anybody could revive the idea and adapt it for Venus? I know people talk about sending balloons but a plane would get around a lot faster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAOTOmGFs5M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ykPIqgPTJE

[Anonymous No.15225443]

>>15224293
Pluto's atmosphere is closer to the Earth's in magnitude than to the Moon's.

[Anonymous No.15225450]

>>15225401
It's the most real that New Glans has been so far.

[Anonymous No.15225458]

>>15225385
WE
ARE
GOOING

[Anonymous No.15225459]

>>15225439
There are much better ideas for a venus surface mission

[Anonymous No.15225464]

Free Mars

[Anonymous No.15225465]

>>15225459
Like what?

[Anonymous No.15225469]

>>15225439
>single-use airplane

[Anonymous No.15225473]

>>15225415
>>15225432
ESA and JAXA disagree with your mindless gatekeeping.

[Anonymous No.15225474]

>>15225465
https://youtu.be/iMcsWbfHTpY

[Anonymous No.15225476]

>>15225420
>Now they're one of the best in the industry imo.
It's hard to prove this objectively, but it's true in my experience. My 8 month old Model 3 is flawless inside and out. Same for the two otehr people I know who have a Tesla.

[Anonymous No.15225479]

>>15225421
>living on the Terminator
If they named the city Twilight they should be executed

[Anonymous No.15225483]

>>15225479
黄昏 sounds cool, but we didn't get that far

[Anonymous No.15225484]

>>15225473
BepiColombo won't land you retard
And I read about this mission, it say they thought about a lander but gave up on that, we were robbed.

[Anonymous No.15225494]

>>15225469
I just don't get this 'reusable airframe' meme
>>15225459
What if it's electric prop and can circumnavigate the upper atmosphere for weeks/months? The Mars one using a limited rocket engine to stay level was pretty dumb admittedly.

[Anonymous No.15225495]

>>15224242
I'm going to get it because I know I'm going to get it eventually anyways so I may as well buy it now.
>>15224347
I do feel this though. I'm expecting huge performance improvements over the course of development. If they don't come I'll be extremely disappointed.

[Anonymous No.15225498]

>>15225484
Note I didn't say it would land, it does prove that Mercury has scientific value and that they're not at all satisfied with existing data. Roscosmos has plans for a lander if they can get the funding for it.
>we were robbed
Which contradicts your entire point but w/e

[Anonymous No.15225499]

>>15224911
the power of soi compels him

[Anonymous No.15225508]

>>15225498
>Roscosmos has plans for a lander if they can get the funding for it
That sentence is completely meaningless

[Anonymous No.15225509]

>>15225019
cash flow from operations is the important thing. Revenue can blow up yet if you cant optimize the costs CFO will flatline killing the underlying cash flow

[Anonymous No.15225512]

>>15225249
>>15225137
you are both retards. A planet is anything equal to or larger then Earth. Everything else are non planet objects

[Anonymous No.15225516]

>>15225508
Less meaningless than the ignorant sperging you've done this thread.

[Anonymous No.15225517]

>>15225379
Mars is equally pointless. Only thing making Mercury worse is the larger energy cost getting that close to the suns well

[Anonymous No.15225520]

>>15225160
science denial is the most ridiculous turn of phrase I've ever heard.

[Anonymous No.15225521]

>>15225465
manned surface landing

[Anonymous No.15225525]

>>15225516
:(
that was my first post

[Anonymous No.15225526]

>>15225521
BALLOON COLONIES OK

[Anonymous No.15225535]

How is venus’s pressure even as high as it is? It’s not like it has a roof it’s literally exposed to a vacuum

[Anonymous No.15225536]

>>15225535

[Anonymous No.15225550]

>According to one estimate, state-of-the-art transistors cost ten billion dollars per kilogram! Silicon, from which the transistors are made, is the second-most-abundant element in Earth’s crust and can be purchased for under two dollars per kilogram. Our transistor-manufacturing technology, therefore, imposes a five-billion-fold markup on the raw materials price for silicon.
And you thought software companies price gouged you

[Anonymous No.15225553]

>>15225535
all the light stuff like hydrogen got blown out into space since it has no magnetosphere like earth protecting against the solar winds. This leaves all the heavy stuff like carbon dioxide. Calling it a atmosphere is even kind of borderline. The Venera probes did not even use parachutes for the final surface landing stretch. It just floated through the thick atmo down like dropping at the bottom of the ocean

[Anonymous No.15225554]

>>15225517
At least Mars got more manageable temperatures

[Anonymous No.15225560]

>>15225536
Why is Mercury listed as hotter than Venus? And I'm pretty sure Io has the greatest escape velocity of the moons.

[Anonymous No.15225564]

When you think about it, Starship is both the reason why SLS block 2 will happen and why it'll be cancelled.

[Anonymous No.15225565]

>>15225560
>Why is Mercury listed as hotter than Venus
because it is

[Anonymous No.15225570]

>>15225476
the software can be buggy, my friend says he needs to reboot it every once in a while because the main screen goes down
unfortunately that's where the speedometer is

[Anonymous No.15225575]

>>15225570
it's on the dash as well niger

[Anonymous No.15225577]

>>15225575
pictures?

[Anonymous No.15225581]

>>15225577

[Anonymous No.15225588]

>>15225581
that's the Model X right, he had a Model 3, which doesn't have a dashboard

[Anonymous No.15225590]

>>15225516
look at what you've done anon, abusing newfriends. don't you feel terrible?

[Anonymous No.15225594]

>>15225588
okay. yeah its inexcusable for any computer to need to reboot

[Anonymous No.15225595]

>>15225536
Can someone explain escape velocity to me in a bit more detail
Say I leave Earth going under escape velocity and travel several light years away. Then I turn off my engine. Would I start moving back to Earth? Say rocket docks to a space station there, does it start pulling at it in direction of earth?

[Anonymous No.15225600]

>>15225594
it's inconvenient to lose your instrument cluster while driving

[Anonymous No.15225605]

>>15225595
meds

[Anonymous No.15225609]

>>15225595
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL29CCD4C7E542D28B

[Anonymous No.15225620]

>>15225595
Play KSP

[Anonymous No.15225622]

>>15225516
totally uncalled for

[Anonymous No.15225635]

>>15225590
>>15225622
cough & sneeze

[Anonymous No.15225640]

>>15225635
bless you, anon

[Anonymous No.15225647]

Damn Elon should have just let Sam from Wendover Productions run Tesla. He would have made them the biggest company in the world.

[Anonymous No.15225650]

>>15225595
Escape velocity is the velocity at which you move away from the planet faster than it can pull you back. That is, the force from gravity decreases to zero (or approximately zero) faster than your velocity relative to the planet is decreased to zero by its gravity.

Your questions don't really make sense, so I wouldn't dwell on my answers for too long.
>Say I leave Earth going under escape velocity and travel several light years away. Then I turn off my engine. Would I start moving back to Earth?
If we assume that Earth is the only thing in the universe, then technically yes since there would be a non-zero force from gravity pulling you back to Earth—it would just take absurdly long.
>Say rocket docks to a space station there, does it start pulling at it in direction of earth?
It would depend on their relative velocity/momentum at the moment of docking.

[Anonymous No.15225655]

>>15225605
>>15225609
>>15225620
Watched a few vids and I think my original statement is correct, even if unintuitive
>>15225650
Thank you

[Anonymous No.15225658]

>>15225655
your original statement is retarded
first you must understand what orbit is

[Anonymous No.15225666]

>>15225560
>>15225565
https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/resources/681/solar-system-temperatures/
What the fuck is with those temperatures. They are fucking wrong. More fucking going on with the primary source. Surface temp of the earth is below 200K? Well that's news to me.

[Anonymous No.15225669]

>>15225484
>but gave up on that
Gee I wonder why

>Mercury Surface Element (cancelled)

>The Mercury Surface Element (MSE) was cancelled in 2003 due to budgetary constraints.[8] At the time of cancellation, MSE was meant to be a small, 44 kg (97 lb), lander designed to operate for about one week on the surface of Mercury.[22] Shaped as a 0.9 m (2 ft 11 in) diameter disc, it was designed to land at a latitude of 85° near the terminator region. Braking manoeuvres would bring the lander to zero velocity at an altitude of 120 m (390 ft) at which point the propulsion unit would be ejected, airbags inflated, and the module would fall to the surface with a maximum impact velocity of 30 m/s (98 ft/s). Scientific data would be stored onboard and relayed via a cross-dipole UHF antenna to either the MPO or Mio. The MSE would have carried a 7 kg (15 lb) payload consisting of an imaging system (a descent camera and a surface camera), a heat flow and physical properties package, an alpha particle X-ray spectrometer, a magnetometer, a seismometer, a soil penetrating device (mole), and a micro-rover.[49]

[Anonymous No.15225676]

>>15225666
doesn't that have to do with the equilibrium temperature of a body in the sun in a circular orbit with that semi-major axis

[Anonymous No.15225685]

Reminder that Mercury is the closest planet to every planet in our solar system

[Anonymous No.15225717]

>>15225676
I fail to see why they say surface temperature. The odds that a particle from the surface reaches space without collisions is zero.

[Anonymous No.15225720]

>>15225415
Mercury is rich in ores

[Anonymous No.15225721]

How come track-launched SSTO spaceplanes never took off?

[Anonymous No.15225723]

>>15225685
Yeah

[Anonymous No.15225725]

What the hell is ‘Lunar Clipper’

[Anonymous No.15225728]

>>15225312
Mr. President, we must close the suborbital carnival ride gap!

[Anonymous No.15225734]

>>15225385
$10 trillion, plus tip

but seriously TOTAL SLS DEATH
Kill SLSs. Behead SLSs. Roundhouse kick a SLS into the concrete. Slam dunk a SLS baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy SRBs. Defecate in a SLSs food. Launch SLSs into the sun. Stir fry SLSs in a wok. Toss SLSs into active volcanoes. Urinate into a SLSs gas tank. Judo throw SLSs into a wood chipper. Twist SLSs heads off. Report SLSs to the IRS. Karate chop SLSs in half. Curb stomp pregnant cost plus SLSs. Trap SLSs in quicksand. Crush SLSs in the trash compactor. Liquefy SLSs in a vat of acid. Eat SLSs. Dissect SLSs. Exterminate SLSs in the gas chamber. Stomp SLS skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate SLSs in the oven. Lobotomize SLSs. Mandatory abortions for SLSs. Grind SLS fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown SLSs in fried chicken grease. Vaporize SLSs with a ray gun. Kick old SLSs down the stairs. Feed SLSs to alligators. Slice SLSs with a katana.

[Anonymous No.15225737]

>>15225354
sick air, brah

[Anonymous No.15225738]

>>15225725
an inspirational all time achievement in PORK.

[Anonymous No.15225739]

>>15225396
thewe's witewawwy nothing wong with eating cwap

[Anonymous No.15225740]

>>15225738
shit, I meant aspirational

[Anonymous No.15225745]

>>15225396
stop asking every day

[Anonymous No.15225753]

>>15225605
shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.15225756]

>>15225396
the fermi paradox is retarded philosophy

[Anonymous No.15225757]

>>15225734
Gott Strafe SLS

[Anonymous No.15225758]

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1628894298950324224
>"We are now targeting the fourth of May for the launch" of Vulcan.

[Anonymous No.15225760]

>>15225756
> Fermi was a retard

[Anonymous No.15225762]

>>15225738
>implying NASA was given a choice

[Anonymous No.15225767]

>>15225760
The fermi paradox was meant to suggestion we're wrong about something. Not spawn thousands of hours of pulp videos hypothesising about where the aliens are.

[Anonymous No.15225772]

>>15225721

[Anonymous No.15225773]

>>15225647
I didn't even watch the video, but is this another case of an armchair specialist saying "Tesla bad"?

[Anonymous No.15225774]

>>15225772

[Anonymous No.15225775]

>>15225738
Retard, the government forced NASA to make this abomination.

[Anonymous No.15225777]

https://youtu.be/RrSZ6FY9k4o
MS-23 in 36 minutes

[Anonymous No.15225778]

>>15225777
in b4 that fucker springs a leak too.

[Anonymous No.15225781]

>>15225758
>payload readiness
Guaranfuckingtee you Astrobotics will conveniently need “more time”

[Anonymous No.15225782]

>>15225781
Guaranfuckingtee you the engine will need
more time too.

[Anonymous No.15225783]

>>15225778
The odds are certainly there

[Anonymous No.15225786]

>>15225783
1 Soyuz, 1 Progress in a row have both sprung coolant leaks. Brain drain migration and mobilization is not doing wonders for Roscosmos.

[Anonymous No.15225787]

>>15225758
>4th May
>launching on star wars day
fuck, please delay that

[Anonymous No.15225789]

>>15225775
not Pence

[Anonymous No.15225802]

Is this still accurate?

[Anonymous No.15225804]

>>15225802
Rogozin got his dick blown off in Ukraine and replaced by someone less retarded.

[Anonymous No.15225806]

>>15225789
Senate mandated rocket.

[Anonymous No.15225808]

>>15225767
Here. UFOs are common.

[Anonymous No.15225810]

>>15225777
>no subtitales
shit niga this is almost worse than ISRO
ESA at leaqst manages the charm of 1980s German industry ads.

Well OK, the audio is good, the video is HD and their female hosts are always cute.
And just as Itype this, Madam Comrade Lemon Face comes on.

[Anonymous No.15225813]

>>15225802
>Hullo
>center
That was the first one I looked at and I can tell you without any fear of error that whoever made it is a fucking moron

[Anonymous No.15225814]

>>15225810
Better than the NASA feed which is just playing irrelevant environ-mentalist propaganda until the last moment

[Anonymous No.15225818]

>Open the Roscosmos stream and the first thing I see are tits
Good evening gentlemen. Is this replacing that leaky Soyuz?

[Anonymous No.15225821]

>>15225396
Each video is half an hour of loose rambling with zero substance.
Jon Michael Godier is a more informative way to pass half an hour.

[Anonymous No.15225823]

>>15225821
>Jon Michael Godier
Another fermi paradox retard, but even more boring than Isaac.

[Anonymous No.15225824]

>>15225734

[Anonymous No.15225826]

>>15225814
NASA TV is generally a shitshow these days, yea.
Kinda sad to see something that was actually educational go to shit for what is pointless politically motivated activism.

[Anonymous No.15225828]

>>15225826
And they still haven't brought back the 4K feed since SLS launched. Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.15225833]

>>15225818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ebp6rma1FY
Theme. Still love Soyuz. It's a piece of shit in 2023 but they were cranking out sixty of these a year in the 80s. The Falcon 9 of its era in many ways.

[Anonymous No.15225834]

When was the last time an uncrewed Soyuz launched

[Anonymous No.15225835]

>>15225777
cracking a Russian Imperial Stout for this Russian Imperial launch

[Anonymous No.15225839]

>>15225818
I didn't see tits :-(

[Anonymous No.15225844]

>>15225835
whoa, I don't remember the Soyuz having that much "twang" at launch. Wobbled more than KSP2!

[Anonymous No.15225845]

>>15225834
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz_MS-14

[Anonymous No.15225855]

>unmanned Soyuz
>carries abort tower
Why?

[Anonymous No.15225862]

>>15225823
At least he draws attention to new publications, something that Isaac Arthur never does.

[Anonymous No.15225864]

ISS docking when?

[Anonymous No.15225866]

>>15225855
They made the decision to send it unmanned like a month ago, not enough time to make a one-off fairing.

[Anonymous No.15225870]

>>15225855
So the robot can bail out if shit hits the fan.

[Anonymous No.15225878]

>>15225855
Because it's an integral part of the rocket in that configuration and it would struggle with shit like aerodynamics hitting max q and whatnot?

[Anonymous No.15225886]

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2023-02-23/Japan-s-H3-rocket-launch-abort-caused-by-power-supply-malfunction-1hEzsrivFgQ/index.html
>The cutoff in the maiden launch of Japan's new-generation rocket H3 last week was caused by an abnormality in the power system of the rocket's main engine
>Further investigation will be carried out and measures will be taken for another possible launch attempt before March 10.

Less than two weeks. Not bad.

[Anonymous No.15225890]

>>15225886
LE9!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.15225891]

>>15225855
Would be useless and more expensive and time consuming to remove it.

Also they unironically reused components of aborted and recovered soyuz the few times it happened, even reused a whole aborted descent module once.

[Anonymous No.15225897]

wen dock

[Anonymous No.15225899]

>>15225890
>!!!!!!!
???????

[Anonymous No.15225911]

Uh, in the short period of time between the downscaling of Mir 2 and the collapse of the USSR, the plans for mir 2/1.5 was a classical ISS/Freedom like assembly with Buran as an outgrow of Mir that would later be separated

[Anonymous No.15225945]

>>15225498
>it does prove that Mercury has scientific value
It still has much less scientific value than most other planets and Moons. Titan got a lander before Mercury, maybe Europa will get one too.

[Anonymous No.15225952]

>>15225945
Landing on Titan is easier than Europa and Mercury, and there's much more reason to do so vis-a-vis sending an orbiter.

[Anonymous No.15225956]

>>15225945
>Titan got a lander before Mercury, maybe Europa will get one too.
If scientific value was literally the only mission consideration that argument could make sense but in reality it's completely retarded.

[Anonymous No.15225962]

>>15225952
Those were my points when this chain about Mercury started.

[Anonymous No.15225975]

>>15225962
So you spent hours of your time trying to come up with a good argument to defend your Mercury hating bullshit and that was it? Take your medication, this is autistic even by /sfg/ standards

[Anonymous No.15225984]

>>15225975
>wow I can't believe you are discussing space exploration in the space exploration thread
And I don't hate Mercury, I was just explaining why a crewed mission is unlikely to happen any soon due to the extreme difficulty and low reward >>15225415

[Anonymous No.15225986]

>>15225367
t. enlightened centrist tranny

[Anonymous No.15225988]

>>15225986
you know "enlightened centrist" is meme created by leftists retards, right?

[Anonymous No.15225991]

>>15225379
I don't see much reason for you to keep wasting Earth's oxygen lmao

[Anonymous No.15226000]

>>15225984
Those are a bunch of incorrect assumptions, yes.

[Anonymous No.15226009]

>>15226000
If give me your name and information I will send you 1 million dollars if there’s a manned mission to mercury inside of 40 years.

[Anonymous No.15226011]

Manned mission to the Sun

[Anonymous No.15226012]

>>15226011
Just land on the night side

[Anonymous No.15226017]

>>15226000
fitting trips because you are tripping
/sfg/ anons will imagine absurd scenarios and will be personally offended when others present the reasons it won't happen

[Anonymous No.15226023]

>>15226009
That just gatekeeping, it will likely be the second planet humans land on after Mars due to the factors that have already been discussed but I have no timeline for that. I would add the temperatures less than a meter under the surface at some latitudes are a remarkable 22 degrees celsius +/-1 degree
>>15226017
You were the only person to get personally offended, like what is said in /sfg/ affects anything and diverts funding from one area to another, I'm simply annoyed by mitwits talking out of their ass, then coming back six hours later to start more shit.

[Anonymous No.15226028]

I fucking love goldfish crackers, yet on mars i wont be able to eat them ever again :/

[Anonymous No.15226030]

*lives rent free in your head*

[Anonymous No.15226034]

https://www.youtube.com/live/2bzyN5UV-qs?feature=share
HOLY SHIT LORI "PUSSY DESTROYER" GARVER WAS ON THE POD THIS WEEK

[Anonymous No.15226037]

>>15226023
"second planet humans land" is cheating because Mercury is the only "official" planet after Earth and Mars that can actually be landed, as landing people on Venus would be absurd (not counting airship exploration), all the other planets are Gas Giants and everything else is dwarf planets on Moons.
But I bet on a Ceres crewed landing or maybe even a Callisto crewed landing before Mercury.

[Anonymous No.15226044]

why is sfg against brook owens fellowship?

[Anonymous No.15226050]

Is PROCSIMA a meme?

[Anonymous No.15226058]

>>15226012
that image is so trippy

[Anonymous No.15226065]

>>15225988
Lmao the fact that a centrist says that, makes it even more hilarious

[Anonymous No.15226087]

>>15226023
Retarded post. The conversation was about
>crewed mission is unlikely to happen anytime soon
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.15226093]

>>15226037
We landed on the Moon and that’s a planet.

[Anonymous No.15226094]

>>15226050
Just more NIAC grift

[Anonymous No.15226095]

>>15226093
alan stern keeps winning
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0019103521004206

[Anonymous No.15226098]

>>15226095
Based. I actually posted a shitty png of my own custom planetary classification system in /sfg/, but it was like three years ago. Maybe I should recreate it.

[Anonymous No.15226100]

>>15226087
Your original post was that there is no reason to go to Mercury, which was reformed into "no scientific value" and "no actual prospects of colonization", then finally you or maybe someone who assumed your position made a post about Mercury 'only' be the second or third choice for a human landing which would defeat the whole argument.

Quit embarrassing yourself and just stop posting. No one cares about your inane opinions based in nothing other than your own feelings.

[Anonymous No.15226104]

>>15226100
You are talking about two different anons lmao

[Anonymous No.15226113]

>>15226100
You are talking to at least 3 different people. Also you’re a faggot and didn’t read anymore

[Anonymous No.15226115]

>>15226113
All three of your split personalities are wrong, samefag
>nooo we just happen to be three completely different retards jumping over each other to defend the same already refuted point and you can't prove otherwise!
I don't care, stop posting.

[Anonymous No.15226120]

What if we give every retarded person here a username to prevent such confusion? I call it reddit

[Anonymous No.15226123]

Outside of HLS, will we ever see a painted starship + booster

[Anonymous No.15226125]

>>15226120
true redditry hasnt been tried yet

[Anonymous No.15226126]

>>15226120
>What if we give every retarded person here a username
nsf 2.0

[Anonymous No.15226128]

Where is SpaceX

and where is NASA

[Anonymous No.15226131]

>>15225823
All he does in those videos is mention potential solutions people have come up with. That's generally all of his content.

>Topic in the title.
>Expounds on the title by providing information relevant, often some new theory or event that has been recorded
>Ends video by shilling his novel

That's it. Dude made his first ayyyyy's video for the first time like three months ago after being pressed to for years. He personally doesn't do a lot of speculation since he's just citing other people.

[Anonymous No.15226133]

>>15226123
No and I'm not convinced HLS will be painted either, aside from logos and such. It's just added mass for nothing.

[Anonymous No.15226135]

>Analysis of a Solar Sail Mercury Sample Return Mission
Meanwhile, can I be the one to say that we got robbed again? Because I'm kinda feeling like we got robbed again.

[Anonymous No.15226139]

>>15226120
fully reusable usernames are on the drawing board right now. Tripcodes are real. You've seen them in this thread

[Anonymous No.15226141]

>>15226139
IDs like /pol/ would be alright

[Anonymous No.15226142]

>>15226128
SpaceX. One of the major benefits of the extreme work hours (high churn) and perceived pedigree that comes from working at SpaceX is that people rarely make a career out of the place. I suspect that the average person who makes it beyond their first year only has term in the company of a total of four or five years. Senior staff are also not static, often quitting or being fired. Departments are static as a necessity (you can't just not have an propulsion engineering department), but the teams are dissolved all the time.

NASA, depending on the administration vacillates somewhere between Maturity and Budget Cuts. Sometimes it's literally ogre, and sometimes it's just bloated.

[Anonymous No.15226147]

>>15226141
ID's should be a thing on most boards with high traffic so that bots have to at least use more than two or three IPs to endlessly spam threads.

[Anonymous No.15226161]

When will we see the EVA suit from SpaceX

[Anonymous No.15226172]

>>15226098
My suggestion for a planetary classification system is basically:
General planet:
>Must not have any kind of nuclear fusion in the core (star), neither be the remainder of an object that used to do it (white dwarf, neutron star, black hole etc.)
>Must be rounded by it's own gravity

Degree system:
>Planets orbiting a stellar object (star, brown dwarf, black hole etc) or a collection of stellar objects (like binary system) are called 1st Degree Planets
>Planets orbiting 1st degree planets are called 2nd degree planets, and so on according to their orbital hierarchy
>Rogue planets are 0th Degree Planets

Regularity system:
>Planets that control everything in their orbit ("cleared" it) are called regular planets
>Planets that do not are called irregular planets

And asteroids that aren't round but have layers (like Vesta) are called protoplanets.

[Anonymous No.15226175]

JUST

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-24/united-launch-alliance-delays-vulcan-debut-flight-to-early-may?utm_source=google&utm_medium=bd&cmpId=google

[Anonymous No.15226176]

>>15226135
Was there any moment we were not robbed of something?

[Anonymous No.15226178]

>>15226161
2 weeks

[Anonymous No.15226199]

Long March 2C going up in ten minutes

[Anonymous No.15226211]

>>15226058
They had to use CGI to make it because the dark side of the sun is not visible from earth.

[Anonymous No.15226214]

>>15226175
Another anti-space hit piece from Loren GASH

[Anonymous No.15226235]

>>15226214
>Loren Grush
I'd fuck her so much

[Anonymous No.15226237]

>>15226115
Didn’t read.

[Anonymous No.15226240]

>>15226172
Based autism
I support it

[Anonymous No.15226245]

>>15226235
anon, no...she's a hook nose jew :( caked in makeup ugh gross

[Anonymous No.15226249]

https://spaceref.com/press-release/weldon-democrats-set-to-cripple-manned-space-program-democrats-kill-chance-to-protect-nasa-from-budget-raid/

[Anonymous No.15226258]

>>15225737
very late but I kek'ed

[Anonymous No.15226268]

>>15225886
Nice

[Anonymous No.15226270]

>>15226044
We shouldn't encourage other women to follow her example and die early of cancer.

[Anonymous No.15226272]

The only thing I ask for is SLS with Saturn V livery

[Anonymous No.15226275]

>>15226249
>2007

[Anonymous No.15226277]

Kind strange to think that the shuttle first flew 20 years after the first human spaceflight.

20 years ago we were still launching titan rockets. Wonder where we will be in 20 years

[Anonymous No.15226278]

Remember when there was space flight? Me neither.

[Anonymous No.15226281]

>>15226044
It's sexist, and not the based type of sexism that is just a result of biological reality

[Anonymous No.15226285]

>>15226199
>>15226268
And it went, successfully launching a small remote sensing satellite of uncertain providence.

I don't get why China doesn't stream these launches. They're not shy about putting up footage immediately afterwards, and it's not like the LM-2/3/4s have a super high chance of embarrassing launch incidents anymore. It'd be good bragging PR.

[Anonymous No.15226287]

>russia will collapse and split into 4-6 countries within the next year
>roscosmos will fall apart
>ISS gets prematurely deorbited, since US section really isn't ready for the split
>Artemis gets put on hold as we try and build a small US station again, possibly using starship

why am I not correct in this prediction

[Anonymous No.15226288]

>>15226278
There are rockets leaving the Earth like every 72 hours anon, or less.

[Anonymous No.15226291]

>>15226277
Kind of strange to think that it was less than 60 years from no powered human flight to humans in orbit.

And then the NASA spent $1 trillion and another 60 years to throw away the ability to put humans in orbit.

If we relied on NASA for progress we'd be hunting and gathering 60 years from now.

[Anonymous No.15226296]

>>15226044
I'm opposed to anything that nominally helps women.

[Anonymous No.15226301]

>>15226287
you sound like a onions filled faggot who should really just hang himself instead of ever posting again
fuck off and take your CURRENT THING with you

[Anonymous No.15226303]

>>15225575
it goes down on the S/X as well, I've done a few reboots while driving and I just do what a normal person would do and drive at the speed of traffic

[Anonymous No.15226309]

>>15225575

[Anonymous No.15226315]

>>15226172
Mine involves a chain of letter abbreviations that tells you a planet’s size, composition, atmospheric density, and whether it’s a satellite or not

[Anonymous No.15226319]

>>15226147
>/sci/
>high traffic board
90% of this board's traffic is solely from this thread

[Anonymous No.15226320]

>>15226309
What a great country,

[Anonymous No.15226322]

>>15226272
>a tranny rocket
YWNBARR

[Anonymous No.15226325]

>>15226319
I love how you can see the significant spaceflight events unambiguously

[Anonymous No.15226327]

>>15225666
This can't be right, Triton is way smaller than Titan, it couldn't have a higher escape velocity

[Anonymous No.15226329]

>>15226319
KSP 2 better come out soon or /sfg/ is dead

[Anonymous No.15226330]

>>15225717
Because surface temperature for a hypothetical object implies the exosphere temperature of a world with an atmosphere at that same distance, numbnuts

[Anonymous No.15226360]

Relativity is launching a dummy payload in a few weeks but do they have any paying customers set to launch this year???

[Anonymous No.15226371]

>>15226360
>Relativity is launching
lol

[Anonymous No.15226377]

>>15224696
tenth? there are 8 more according to this list, who knows how many undiscovered ones like Sedna (orbital radius of 500 AU)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_planet#Most_likely_dwarf_planets

[Anonymous No.15226378]

Earth is not a planet

[Anonymous No.15226385]

>>15225082
this video made me unsubscribe from wendover

[Anonymous No.15226392]

>>15225082
Chevy and Nissan released mass market electric cars before Tesla, it's fucking over. Time to let the big boys show them how it's done. why would I buy a Model S when I can just but a Chevy Bolt?

[Anonymous No.15226405]

>>15225082
>>15226392
roadster was cute and all, but come on, you think you can compete with GM?

[Anonymous No.15226410]

>>15225594
older tesla computers are trash trash TRASH

[Anonymous No.15226417]

>>15225345
retard

[Anonymous No.15226419]

>>15225595
explaining physics and basic orbital mechanics isn't going to be possible in a few posts
you should have listened in high school

[Anonymous No.15226426]

>>15226405
kek, totally forgot about this
Tesla was nowhere near the first electric car maker, but it was the first one that made actually compelling electric cars

[Anonymous No.15226433]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1628998457645047808
What
The original has 400 views, is he looking up deep fakes of himself?

[Anonymous No.15226436]

>>15226433
probably, or someone sent it to him

[Anonymous No.15226446]

>>15226433
God normies are so bad at using this ai tech

[Anonymous No.15226462]

>>15226329
/kspg/....

[Anonymous No.15226478]

>>15226462
fuck it we GAAN
>>>/vg/419741218

[Anonymous No.15226492]

>>15226433
Rogan's voice isnt bad, but Elon's voice isnt quite right.

[Anonymous No.15226507]

>spaceflight autist
>only people who share my hobby are troons on twitter or 70 year old guys collecting pensions from boeing
What do?

[Anonymous No.15226512]

>>15226507
enjoy spaceflight with us :)

[Anonymous No.15226513]

>>15226507
Do reps and save money to move to Mars before you die.

[Anonymous No.15226514]

>>15226507
Work hard, save up money, buy a house

20-30 years from now, you will want to sell your home on Earth to move to Mars.

[Anonymous No.15226522]

>>15226378
It is a spaceplane

[Anonymous No.15226530]

>>15226492
the writing is painfully shitty

[Anonymous No.15226539]

Space traffic mamagement from the Diverse Dozen :)
https://youtu.be/FS0800M9JDo
how can we stop space-x?

[Anonymous No.15226540]

>>15226530
>complaining about the writing of a meme video

[Anonymous No.15226542]

>>15226540
Your gay copypastas arent funny either

[Anonymous No.15226567]

>>15226539
>how can we stop space-x?
That's the neat thing: you don't.

[Anonymous No.15226577]

>>15226567
fuqq how much kino have I been missing out. I haven't watch a SpaceX launch in years

[Anonymous No.15226582]

>>15226577
They've launched ridiculously often for the pats two years, which has given them good opportunities for some fantastic shots
>Years
Does that include Starship test flights?

[Anonymous No.15226583]

>>15226539
crabs in bucket

[Anonymous No.15226590]

>>15226582
>SN15 was 2 year ago
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.15226591]

>>15226590
"How many" is always a valid question after an indefinite plural.

[Anonymous No.15226625]

>>15225553
>pic
god I hate it so much

[Anonymous No.15226658]

>china drawing closer to joining the ukraine war
the last time the world was engaged in a major proxy war was korea and vietnam. space wasnt as important to war back then as it is today. maybe we'll finally see some action in space.

[Anonymous No.15226680]

>>15226658
Aside from stupid counties blowing up satellites space seems to be the place for cooperation, I hope it stays that way.
>>15226478
nice

[Anonymous No.15226764]

>>15226135
e-sails would do a better job, no gay unfurling problems and you can turn them on and off as needed

[Anonymous No.15226774]

crew 6 static fire complete

[Anonymous No.15226776]

[Anonymous No.15226777]

>>15226774
Jeb?

[Anonymous No.15226849]

Converging specifications for the chinese moon rocket, now called Long March 10.

- Height: 88.5 m
- Liftoff mass: 2187 t
- Liftoff thrust: 2678 t (26262 kN)
- Payload to TLI: >= 27 t

A boosterless version will be used for space station logistics, with a reusable first stage

- Height: 67 m
- Liftoff mass: 748 t
- Liftoff thrust: 873 t (8561 kN)
- Payload to LEO: >= 14 t

[Anonymous No.15226852]

>>15226849
>- Payload to LEO: >= 14 t
That's not a lot.

[Anonymous No.15226862]

>>15226849
so long march 10 is the equivalent of falcon 9/heavy?

[Anonymous No.15226877]

>shop.nasaspaceflight.com
>models are black male, white female
what the fuck

[Anonymous No.15226878]

>>15226862
yeah, kinda, both versions are about 40% heavier than F9 (since wider), the Heavy version has a Hydrolox upper stage to go to the moon. Also the cores use 7 Oxydizer rich staged combustion engines rather than open cycles engines like Falcon.

>>15226852
Makes sense, a kerolox rocket in that class range would be around 25t to LEO, but they haven't tested reuse yet so they'd rather be conservative with it. F9 didn't reach its 17.5t of reusable payload (25% perf drop) immediately

[Anonymous No.15226885]

china should be focused on building a rocket to defeat starship, not focused on competing with the spacex of 10 years ago

[Anonymous No.15226887]

>>15226877
American culture

[Anonymous No.15226889]

>>15226877
they have use various models

[Anonymous No.15226890]

>>15226680
Fag. War is cool

[Anonymous No.15226894]

>>15226877
obsessed

[Anonymous No.15226896]

>>15226890
Interesting, when you are going to Ukraine?

[Anonymous No.15226904]

>>15226896
Can’t wait to die for Israel

[Anonymous No.15226910]

>>15226849
F9 v1.0 class

[Anonymous No.15226911]

Chinese moon lander

[Anonymous No.15226942]

>>15226911
Includes a rover!

[Anonymous No.15226950]

>>15226911
Is there some stigma against creating anything original in China?

[Anonymous No.15226951]

[Anonymous No.15226992]

>>15226950
Except for the HLS every lunar lander, proposed or actual, strongly resemble each other for very good reasons. It's not just 'chinks are copycats'

[Anonymous No.15227000]

>>15226950
It's simply beyond them. They feel more at home referring to "ancient wisdom" rather than innovating.

[Anonymous No.15227062]

IT'S UP

[Anonymous No.15227065]

>>15227062
https://youtu.be/STTTp9nDFOE

KSP 2 will be amazing
in 2030

[Anonymous No.15227070]

> KSP

[Anonymous No.15227071]

SimpleRockets2 is better, fight me.

[Anonymous No.15227077]

>>15226776

[Anonymous No.15227078]

>>15227077

[Anonymous No.15227080]

>>15227071
Better how?

[Anonymous No.15227085]

>>15226911
Unironically kino

[Anonymous No.15227089]

[Anonymous No.15227114]

>>15227089
Tory the deboonker

[Anonymous No.15227118]

>>15225802
>gun control and Apple cuck
>portrayed as the chad
Fix that and you won't be thrown into Venus. Granted, I've heard Scotts are the most libshit of the islanders, is that true?

[Anonymous No.15227129]

>>15227089
Kek I’m just imagining Tory standing in a warehouse full of RD-180s furiously tying his response to mack

[Anonymous No.15227130]

>Fix that and you won't be thrown into Venus.

[Anonymous No.15227134]

[Anonymous No.15227139]

[Anonymous No.15227145]

>>15227118
Norfman here, Scots have become insufferable commie poofs

[Anonymous No.15227154]

>>15227089
i wanna fuck mack crawford's little elf throat

[Anonymous No.15227166]

>>15226774
>>15226776
Best part of their flight suit is that it basically makes the background and foreground blend together so that the person focuses on the face of the astronaut, instead of all the clutter around them, and then re-contextualize the scene with the astronaut and their expression in mind. It's maximum pottery.

[Anonymous No.15227178]

>>15225297
Maybe in America, but in most of the developed world gas pricing insecurity is pretty prevalent in the pubic consciousness. An EV is freedom from that and very appealing to a lot of people even with money.

You're also forgetting that most sales growth is in leasing. People start to care about monthly costs a lot then

[Anonymous No.15227186]

>>15227145
If it's anything like the Irish it's done just to be stubborn contrarians as England moves to the right.

[Anonymous No.15227187]

based cabana, fuck white people

[Anonymous No.15227190]

>>15227187
The united state’s obsession with skin color is fucking weird

[Anonymous No.15227195]

>>15227130
>tfw portrayed as te soijak
I'm still right and you know it's true. Being retarded on twotter for an audience that doesn't exist can harm goodwill. Remember that space is supposed to be cooperative, right? I put aside my dislike fo jews for the sake of such concepts, you should try it too.

[Anonymous No.15227198]

>>15227195
>Whine about someone being portrayed as a chad wojack
>Try and flip the script and pretend a onions wojack doesn't matter

[Anonymous No.15227199]

>>15227195
Don't reply to soijacker homos, their posts are all 100% "extremely low quality" and should treated as such.

[Anonymous No.15227200]

>>15227187
>15 quotes
>pissed off a former NASA Astronaut

holy shit lol, that's how you know you've gone too far

[Anonymous No.15227202]

>>15227190
It's because of our Civil War and the form of our WW2 propaganda. We can't ever admit that white men are on average more competent than other people or else most of our government policies since 1945 look like deliberate genocide against the founding population.

[Anonymous No.15227207]

>>15226911
>>15226942
China might legit have a rover on the moon before us at this point

NASA lunar rover is barely in the design stage and is planned for debut on Artemis V or something like that, by which point China may have landed if they don't fuck up

[Anonymous No.15227210]

>>15226658
>You get spacewar
>monkeypaw
>(you) get no internet (satellites wiped out total LEO chaos)

[Anonymous No.15227215]

>>15226433
>onlyGAN's
99% of people who follow Elon won't get this

[Anonymous No.15227216]

>>15227186
Its worse because they were full partners in the Empire and did well out of that unlike the Irish, who I don't blame for being pissed off

[Anonymous No.15227247]

ICE Land Cruiser lunar rover that just carries its own oxygen tank

[Anonymous No.15227273]

chinese space station confirmed for expansion

>instead of duplicating the three current modules: Tianhe-1, Wentian and Mengtian, a multi-functional module with 6 docking ports will be added
https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1629145713304297472

[Anonymous No.15227276]

it's cracked

[Anonymous No.15227290]

>>15227210
Imagine the shooting stars as the debris field deorbits

[Anonymous No.15227298]

>>15227273
The chinese are mogging americans

[Anonymous No.15227304]

>>15227298
nice rover lol

[Anonymous No.15227313]

>>15227247
sseriously wanna see that one day

[Anonymous No.15227329]

>>15226911
thought this was a girl in a dress from the thumbnail!

[Anonymous No.15227334]

>>15227329

[Anonymous No.15227355]

>>15227276
ksp2? it has unplayable performance

[Anonymous No.15227361]

>>15227304
thanks

[Anonymous No.15227366]

>>15227355
kinda like ksp1? you dumb faggot retard

[Anonymous No.15227375]

>>15227366
ksp1 plays at 20 fps and stutters?

[Anonymous No.15227390]

>>15227276
LET'S GOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.15227393]

>>15227375
Run Ksp1 v1.0 with a 560Ti and get back to me you gorilla nigger

[Anonymous No.15227446]

>>15227207
You mean manned rover? America did that 50 years ago

[Anonymous No.15227447]

>>15227393
ksp1 runs on literal 2012 notebook integrated graphics you retard

[Anonymous No.15227449]

>>15227446
yeah but I mean operational

[Anonymous No.15227450]

>>15227447
Yeah runs like poopy shitty ass at 5fps

[Anonymous No.15227452]

>>15227207
Buddy...

[Anonymous No.15227463]

>>15227452
manned rover
see
>>15227446
and
>>15227449

[Anonymous No.15227465]

>>15227450
categorically wrong

[Anonymous No.15227471]

KSP2 release is going very well

[Anonymous No.15227510]

>>15227471
lmao

[Anonymous No.15227511]

I've got an interview today, bros!

[Anonymous No.15227514]

Robbaz is playing ksp2 too

[Anonymous No.15227520]

ksp2 seems to be at the techdemo level of development at this point, but I guess its early access and as long as people are aware of this before buying then I'm fine with it
not going to personally buy or play it yet though
normally when early access games are released they are playable at least, but idk if there is any set standards for when an early access game can be released

[Anonymous No.15227522]

>>15227514
funy swede man

[Anonymous No.15227526]

Really makes me think

[Anonymous No.15227530]

Good grief you “people” are such crybabies. This always happens lol.
>modern game gets released
>review-bombed because it’s riddled with bugs and problems
>slowly gets patched over the course of 3-4 years
>reviews go up and up along with game progress
>suddenly everyone memory holes themselves and acts like they always loved it
This is the modern cycle

[Anonymous No.15227534]

>ksp2 seems to be at the techdemo level of development at this point, but I guess its early access and as long as people are aware of this before buying then I'm fine with it
not going to personally buy or play it yet though
>normally when early access games are released they are playable at least, but idk if there is any set standards for when an early access game can be released

[Anonymous No.15227535]

>>15227530
what do you base the last line of the greentext on?

[Anonymous No.15227536]

>>15227534
???
you don't have to play the game, i won't
lmao

[Anonymous No.15227540]

If the suits don't get their money back (since they forced the devs to release it in EA to get a bit of their investments back) there's a good chance the project gets cancelled

[Anonymous No.15227542]

>>15227540
there are plenty of games where the base systems and so on are finished when they release it in EA, but they use EA to fine-tune and release new features

[Anonymous No.15227548]

>>15227542
That's not how KSP2 is though since it's missing basic things that were in the first game.

[Anonymous No.15227551]

>>15227535
specifically battlefield 4, 1, and skyrim

[Anonymous No.15227553]

>>15227548
Too bad

[Anonymous No.15227554]

Anyone got magnet link for ksp 2?

[Anonymous No.15227558]

>>15227542
Problem is the lack of even basic featured like autostrut
Im sure that if they fix the performance issue in tops 2-4 months the project won't get cancelled and the disastrous launch will start to get memory holed.. but if it extends beyond that heads will roll if they are not already rolling based off the jobs listing in their website

[Anonymous No.15227560]

>>15227548
I think missing some features is fine at this point, what really isn't the unplayable performance
people that buy it at this point are basically alpha testing the game

[Anonymous No.15227564]

>>15227551
people deny those specific games were bad at some point?

[Anonymous No.15227568]

>game is in ""beta"""
>plays like an early alpha
why

[Anonymous No.15227575]

>>15227564
NTA but people shit on battlefield 4 so hard at launch lol. Now it’s loved

[Anonymous No.15227581]

>>15227564
You’re double negative is confusing me but there were times when they were hated on, and then loved, yeah.

[Anonymous No.15227582]

>>15227581
is it negative that the double negative is a negative thing in a positive sense?

[Anonymous No.15227589]

>>15227575
I mean if its fixed now?
whats the problem lmao

[Anonymous No.15227594]

you now remember No Mans Sky

[Anonymous No.15227601]

>>15227594
Lol that’s another example, people actually like it now

[Anonymous No.15227603]

>>15227581
people changing their minds is not memoryholing
denying (or ignoring) something happened is, completely different things

[Anonymous No.15227606]

>>15227601
Redeemed

[Anonymous No.15227610]

>>15227601
yeah and most people know it was bad at the start, no memory holing going on
you've probably misunderstood what the concept means

[Anonymous No.15227617]

>>15227610
No I honestly think people forget they ever hated it.
But I’m open to the idea of this statement being wrong. Maybe the people who did hate it just deleted it, and the people who like it now are a new breed of folks who never knew about it or overhyped it during development, and only picked it up once things got fixed and added

[Anonymous No.15227624]

>>15227617
no, people definitely know it was shit before and better now
this video has 21 million views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5BJVO3PDeQ

[Anonymous No.15227625]

>>15227624
It's still a bad game

[Anonymous No.15227626]

>>15227624
Lol that's exactly the video I was thinking of when you anons were talking about no man's sky. I have a friend who has it, I should borrow his copy sometime just to try out the rovers and underwater shit.

[Anonymous No.15227635]

>>15227601
It's still shit

[Anonymous No.15227638]

[Anonymous No.15227645]

>>15227624
fuck off with your propaganda, it's still shit

[Anonymous No.15227646]

>>15227625
yeah I tried it a few months ago, played like 1.5h and uninstalled
flying controls are annoying as fuck, couldn't get back to an old spot when I landed on a planet (idk if its possible to have markers, but no fucking map lmao)

[Anonymous No.15227649]

>>15227645
well, I don't like it either personally but the general view of it has changed for the better

[Anonymous No.15227659]

>>15227646
one thing I forgot to mention
yes, there is procedural generation, but its basically just a new coat of paint which doesn't get you anything interesting from a gameplay perspective (unlike lets say procedural generation in deep rock galactic)

[Anonymous No.15227670]

>ksp2 is entirely drm free
pretty based in 2023

[Anonymous No.15227675]

>>15227670
more incentive for modders to fix it, clever move

[Anonymous No.15227678]

>>15227638
ABLists, we are going

[Anonymous No.15227691]

>>15227638
Seems a bit foolish that a giant heavy lift rocket is going to be aiming for this new Lane 1 launch slot when tons of other rockets will be able to bid for way cheaper

[Anonymous No.15227775]

Reminder that no one outside ABL knows what ABL stands for. Blue Origin wishes they were as secretive as ABL.

[Anonymous No.15227785]

>>15227775
Abort before launch

[Anonymous No.15227791]

>>15227195
>Remember that space is supposed to be cooperative, right
No, I’m not a fag or a Kike globalist

[Anonymous No.15227793]

>>15227785
screenshotting for when ABL launches (or goes bankrupt)

[Anonymous No.15227797]

>>15227530
We know the modern gaming industry sucks.

[Anonymous No.15227798]

>>15227785
thanks, that got a kek out of me

[Anonymous No.15227805]

>>15227797
Entertainment in general. Movies are just remakes from the 80s and 90s. And now the 2000s with lord of the rings apparently. And no one besides george r r martin (who works at an absolute snail’s pace) is publishing anything worthwhile in print. Entertainment is lazy yet normies keep the bar low by consuming

[Anonymous No.15227819]

>>15227805
I read a good book about monkey behavior recently; came out in 2015 apparently.
“The Sociology of Adult Female Patas Monkeys and Vervets in Kenya” by Jill Pruetz. It’s a very unusual sort of book, at least for the books I’ve found at bookstores, in that it’s a documentation of scientific research complete with many photographs of the titular monkeys, graphs, and figures. Most books about scientific topics you can find paraphrase or leave out the juicy details of proper scientific literature.

[Anonymous No.15227820]

>>15227805
which is why AI media will completely and easily replace all of it

[Anonymous No.15227827]

…one day bros

[Anonymous No.15227831]

>>15227827
so any ofyou going down to boca for the laumch??

[Anonymous No.15227838]

>>15227831
hell no for me
don't want to be another casualty when the whole setup explodes on the pad

[Anonymous No.15227853]

>>15227838
pussy

[Anonymous No.15227871]

>>15227831
I'm hoping to, but it will depend a lot on the timing of when it actually happens.

[Anonymous No.15227911]

>>15227511
don't forget to mention how much time you spent on this imageboard

[Anonymous No.15227925]

>>15227838
>Implying you'd even get an entrance visa

[Anonymous No.15227927]

>>15227827
>pathetically short plume
kneel

[Anonymous No.15227930]

>>15227927
The best plume is no plume

[Anonymous No.15227934]

>>15227911
My country is USA's fren so we don't need visa :)

[Anonymous No.15227941]

>>15227831
Yeah let me buy a car and drive 35h real quick

[Anonymous No.15227953]

>>15227827
>>15227927
>plume will be hueg because 33 engines
>plume will be small like that pic because smoll engines

which one will it be

[Anonymous No.15227973]

>>15227941
You don’t own a car? Poor fucker

[Anonymous No.15227980]

Staging
>>15227978
>>15227978
>>15227978

[Anonymous No.15227984]

>>15227973
you VILL own ze motorized jew

[Anonymous No.15228236]

>>15227941
should i drive or fly? i'm 19 hours out. not sure i want to rent a car