/sfg/ - Space Flight General

[Anonymous No.15212531]

"Private" rocketry edition
Previous >>15209891

[Anonymous No.15212542]

first for Gateway

[Anonymous No.15212550]

will there be burritos in starship's galley

[Anonymous No.15212552]

>>15212550
yes, and avocado toast

[Anonymous No.15212563]

>>15212531
i REALLY hope KSP 2 is decent

[Anonymous No.15212577]

>>15212550
That got me thinking. Is there any type of food or method of cooking that would greatly benefit from 0g?
How would bread or cake rise.

[Anonymous No.15212583]

>>15212563
I have little optimism. The original KSP is a shit game and I'm tired of pretending it's not. The fact that it's possible to have fun with it anyway doesn't mean it's not a shit game.

[Anonymous No.15212586]

One question that always kinda gets me.

What would a space force look like? Like the air force or the navy? Of course someone would say that a mix of both, but then the next question would be, to which would it be closer.

On one hand a navy has to deal with living inside technologically complex machines in which they can spend years if necessary.

On the other hand the air force has to deal with platforms with very limited payloads and small crews in 3D environments.

Our current Space Force is not really representative, not only because it only deals with satellites but also because many there come from the air force so might as well be an extension of AF culture and organization.

[Anonymous No.15212599]

https://www.clubic.com/esa/actualite-457866-l-union-europeenne-aura-sa-constellation-de-connectivite-iris-et-non-ce-n-est-pas-starlink.html


IRIS2's LEO component will have 170 satellites

[Anonymous No.15212606]

Say what you want about the Soviet Union but they had the balls to launch 33 nuclear powered satelllites into orbit

[Anonymous No.15212611]

>>15212563
>>15212583
i just want a game with a build in CFD simulator, is that too much to ask?

[Anonymous No.15212618]

>>15212611
plenty do this. they are just simplified and use large volume elements

[Anonymous No.15212621]

>>15212586
>mix of both
and neither
it's got unique requirements created by the nature of the medium of operation that make it fundamentally incompatible with either air or naval forces as they currently exist, and it really only makes sense as a separate branch

as for experience by the crew, it's likely to be most similar to submarines... except completely without the stealth component. hopefully a similar mindset to European/American naval warfare can be adopted, where the first enemy of every crew is the sea (or in a space force's case, space)

as an aside they'd better be planning to build a USS Enterprise cislunar flagship

[Anonymous No.15212622]

>>15212577
>s there any type of food or method of cooking that would greatly benefit from 0g?
Well, as you mention things with air inside will probably expand further, but they would take a more spherical form which would actually make them harder to eat.

But for the rest? A blender for some centrifugal force will be more than necessary, but essential since for example, making pasta requires stirring and mixing which in an environment in which everything gets pushed around in every direction would make it really hard.

Soups would be easy tho, just drop the water on a bag with the ingredients, close it and heat it.

Salads and similar foods with fluids would be hard to eat, unless they are packaged or somehow contained, since the oils and salts and other particles would start spill and fly around.

[Anonymous No.15212629]

>>15212606
They even had the balls to try an experimental nuclear powered TU-95 and fly it.

[Anonymous No.15212638]

>>15212629
didn't the US try the same thing?

[Anonymous No.15212641]

>>15212638
Project pluto never actually flew and did not have a live crew in front of the working reactor

[Anonymous No.15212645]

>>15212638
Yes but it didn't kill the crew through radiation exposure like the Russian one so it's not as cool

[Anonymous No.15212648]

>>15212641
>Project pluto never actually flew
Yes it did you dumb nigger

[Anonymous No.15212649]

>>15212648
A ground test is not flying

[Anonymous No.15212650]

Will KSP 2 have aerogravity assist or will it be gay?

[Anonymous No.15212653]

>>15212650
In so far the community has outworked the devs in several orders with KSP1, so at this point it the only thing it can bring to the table is some modernization and a graphical update.

[Anonymous No.15212661]

>>15212606
they did not give a shit. Siberian lakes glowing in the dark, radioactive dust bowls and anthrax island can testify to that. If Chernobyl happened somewhere in the backyard and not right next to euro they would have left the reactor uncovered as its cheaper then the clean up efforts.

Thank god it died as easily as it did. Its remains today put up more of a convlusions then the rotting hulk did 30 years ago

[Anonymous No.15212663]

>>15212599
>Starlink: 12,000-42,000 satellites
>Chinese Constelation: 13,000 satellites?
>Kuiper: 3,236 satellites
>OneWeb: 648 satellites
>IRIS2: 170 satellites

Pathetic, but not unexpected

[Anonymous No.15212668]

>>15212649
Not project pluto, but the US did have a plane carry a small operational nuclear reactor. It just didn't power the plane and was only used to test radiation on flight systems

[Anonymous No.15212677]

>>15212550
*zoobtubes

[Anonymous No.15212681]

>>15212645
based

[Anonymous No.15212688]

>>15212661
>cone of kerosene/lox balls
>symmetrical engine shutdown in case of failure
if Starship had SOVL

[Anonymous No.15212734]

I was reminiscing about old /sfg/ today, and I realized that I missed the ARCAspammers and even that one anon who had cute aggression so bad he'd split the thread whenever he didn't like the new one and copy all the posts from the real one to his fake one. I was buttmad about it at the time but in hindsight those were good times.

[Anonymous No.15212747]

>>15212734
Ironic shitposting is dumb. Thankfully we didn't devolve into that

[Anonymous No.15212757]

>>15212734
I saved all the old arca memes but i almost never post them since they werent that funny

[Anonymous No.15212762]

>>15212622
>they would take a more spherical form which would actually make them harder to eat.
Well, you'll never get a visit from Davis with that attitude.

[Aether king of sci No.15212782]

Rockets are so last year, how about taking of with a song?

Only super intellectuals get this.

[Anonymous No.15212787]

>>15212762
>boil in bag
That's the most horrid thing about goyslop. I hope Mars isn't like this where everything has a high dose of dissolved plastics in it

[Anonymous No.15212790]

>>15212577
I really wonder about that too
I think cake and bread could be absurdly airy.
For meat, a sous-vide method would be pretty much like on Earth. For searing though... maybe by using something like a panini press?
As with other things, I can't wait for people in space to be free to try things instead of waiting 2 years for 3 space agencies to give them the authorization to wipe their asses.

[Anonymous No.15212797]

Is New Jarvis still happening??

[Anonymous No.15212810]

>>15212797
>BO
>Anything happening

[Anonymous No.15212817]

>>15212810
They literally almost done with blue Glenne

[Anonymous No.15212826]

[Anonymous No.15212830]

https://twitter.com/takigare3/status/1626559999634972673
During the press conference a retarded journalist asked a JAXA engineer if the H3 launch was a failure. The engineer said that it was an abort, not a failure, and the journalist replied "well most people would call that a failure, thank you" with a snarky tone.
Now japanese twitter is very mad at the guy and the press in general, you love to see it.

[Anonymous No.15212832]

>>15212787
every couple of years I'm going to rent a Starship and have it bring about a hundred tons of prime Omaha beef to the Mars colony, going to be worth its weight in gold there, make a killing

[Anonymous No.15212833]

>>15212830
>every time i turn off my car it's an engine failure
god i hate modern journalists

[Anonymous No.15212836]

>>15212817
>blue Glenne

[Anonymous No.15212839]

>>15212830
Funny that this is the reason why this Clear clip blew up on twitter, at least if you judge it from quote tweets.
https://twitter.com/clearusui/status/1626447410422747136

[Anonymous No.15212843]

>>15212830
H3 is fucked...they might have to rebuild the whole rocket...

[Anonymous No.15212844]

>>15212839
Someone translate this please.

[Anonymous No.15212846]

>>15212836
we have tanks, and the engine. what more can you want?

[Anonymous No.15212854]

>>15212844
In short perfectly explaining what went wrong with the launch shortly after the abort.

[Anonymous No.15212859]

>>15212844
"I think the SRBs didn't light. They stopped after lighting the engines but before lighting the SRBs because you can't stop them once they're on. Either there was a problem after the engines turned on or they were unable to confirm that everything was OK so they made an emergency abort. It might take some time before the next launch attempt"
She even pulled up the precise launch sequence and she was 100% correct 30s after the abort so people are very impressed

[Anonymous No.15212862]

>>15212859
thank you

[Anonymous No.15212863]

>>15212859
>>15212854
are japanese brainlets? this was obvious

[Anonymous No.15212864]

>>15212863
It's obvious if you know that you can't turn off SRBs. 99% of people don't, including journalists at the JAXA press conference

[Anonymous No.15212865]

>>15212863
That's why they are shitting on their media.

[Anonymous No.15212877]

>>15212797
>posting screen shots from los dos
>as if they tell us anything new about Below Orbit

[Anonymous No.15212882]

>>15212839
so when is the next launch attempt anyhow?

[Anonymous No.15212886]

>>15212882
JAXA guy said they're hoping to do it within the Japanese year (before April 1st) at the press conference

[Anonymous No.15212902]

>>15212865
>journalists are scum
nothing new

[Anonymous No.15212905]

anything happen today? people were saying s24 is supposed to be moved to the launch site?

[Anonymous No.15212908]

>>15212846
mmm... rokket

[Anonymous No.15212912]

>>15212839
she must be protected at all costs

[Anonymous No.15212916]

>>15212846
>>15212908
Can't wait until they open the first space McDonald's.

[Anonymous No.15212920]

>>15212916
can't wait until the first time the shake machine breaks

[Anonymous No.15212929]

>>15212832
>implying anyone in the ultor mines could afford any of that

[Anonymous No.15212935]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCpAO8C2e-M
So JWST just can't find aliens realistically. It would have been cool if this was clarified from the start.

[Anonymous No.15212941]

>>15212935
>if this was clarified from the start.
It was, but very few people had telegraphs back then.

[Anonymous No.15212947]

>>15212941
I remember there was a single post in the official twitter account that said it is not capable of confirming life.

[Anonymous No.15212952]

>>15212935
How could telescope do that anyways, I would expect the best it could do is to find earth like planets.

[Anonymous No.15212956]

>>15212935
If they were honest about its capabilities even fewer people would give a fuck about it

[Anonymous No.15212960]

>>15212782
alright, spaz
what are we looking at here?

[Anonymous No.15212962]

>>15212952
Searching for biosignatures, or technosignatures if you are feeling bold.
>>15212956
Well, it was made to study galaxies, and I think is has been doing well so far.

[Anonymous No.15212973]

>>15212962
Well they should defend studying the early universe instead of equivocating about fucking ET - just say loudly, clearly and repeatedly that it won't be doing that

[Anonymous No.15212982]

When does New Glenn launch?

[Anonymous No.15212987]

>>15212982
Maybe 2025?

[Anonymous No.15212989]

>>15212982
two decades

[Anonymous No.15212992]

>>15212982
As soon as someone makes the mod when KSP2 is available

[Anonymous No.15213006]

>>15212992
inb4 ksp2 is ultra unmoddable

[Anonymous No.15213008]

>>15213006
Like half of the good features in KSP2 are from modders that joined the staff. Same goes for Skyrim's DLC a couple years ago. It keeps me from feeling absolute despair about TES6.

[Anonymous No.15213010]

What i worry about with KSP 2 is that it will have sacrificed depth in the gameplay by becoming broad.
If the goal is for all players to become interstellar then maybe the 'early game' will become to simple and straightforward.

[Anonymous No.15213020]

Any news on the H3? Nextspaceflight says NET February only

[Anonymous No.15213023]

>>15213008
I'm not wholly despairing over ksp yet either, but man is it not looking very promising. So long as it doesn't run outright worse than the first and the important mods like principia make it over I'll be fine with it.
>>15213010
I know you have /egg/ open in another tab

[Anonymous No.15213024]

>>15213020
>>15212886

[Anonymous No.15213025]

>>15213020
There's nothing official yet, but it sounds like they're planning on sometime in mid-March.

[Anonymous No.15213037]

If SRBs fail to light then convicted criminals should be sent under there with blowtorches to get them going

[Anonymous No.15213045]

>Scaffolding being added around the entire perimeter of the OLM...likely in anticipation for installation of the shielding.
how long is this shit going to take?

[Anonymous No.15213046]

>>15212638
The test facility is a few miles from my house in a wildlife management area. You have to climb over some large berms to get to the ruins of the test facility. It's claimed that everything harmful was long ago removed and that it's totally safe but there are still warning signs that mostly go ignored. I've never bothered to go in but UBXers (or should that be RBXers in this case?) apparently do get in frequently.

[Anonymous No.15213047]

>>15213045
2 weeks

[Anonymous No.15213048]

>>15213046

[Anonymous No.15213062]

>>15213046
Don't know if they were developing a nuclear powered aircraft there. Looks like it was a lab to test how exposure to radiation would impact aircraft.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urGYMs0-UcM
>Able to irradiate six railroad cars of material at a time.
Fuck, no wonder they didn't get anywhere. Railcars have terrible lift properties.

[Anonymous No.15213070]

>>15213045
Approximately 14 additional days

[Anonymous No.15213087]

>>15213045
Not that long if SpaceX seems confident about March

[Anonymous No.15213090]

Is anyone else surprised at how well the pad held up?

[Anonymous No.15213093]

ESA literally has the ability to build a manned space capsule and they’re choosing not to.

[Anonymous No.15213096]

>>15213093
ESA is just NASA without the expectations of doing cool space stuff imposed by Apollo. Just do enough to qualify as an independent space program while keeping your contractors as happy as possible. That's why the "we can't make reusable rockets because we would have to shut down the factories" argument was made, they don't see spaceflight as a goal, but a means to get government money.

[Anonymous No.15213098]

>>15213093
i bet america is responsible for killing it. they were responsible for killing off south korea's space program.

[Anonymous No.15213102]

I miss the old ITS design.


Is there any rocket manufacturer that has a chance of creating a launch vehicle that can compete with starship? Maybe relativity?

[Anonymous No.15213110]

>>15213102
ITS was too good for our world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qo78R_yYFA

[Anonymous No.15213111]

>>15212661
Chernobyl is a meme barely killed anyone

[Anonymous No.15213132]

>>15213087
March is, after all, only 14 days away

[Anonymous No.15213133]

LC-39A under construction in the 60s

[Anonymous No.15213138]

Soyuz looks so cramped

[Anonymous No.15213139]

>>15213102
Imagine wanting to launch that from Boca Chica.

FAA would have delayed the thing by 10 years

[Anonymous No.15213142]

>>15213138
Soyuz, Voskhod, and Vostok all have the same diameter

[Anonymous No.15213146]

>>15213138
Why is he so sad

[Anonymous No.15213147]

>>15213102
>Is there any rocket manufacturer that has a chance of creating a launch vehicle that can compete with starship?
No

[Anonymous No.15213148]

>>15213138
The orbital module helps with it, and most times you won't be spending more than ~7-12 hours inside a Soyuz before it docks to a station

[Anonymous No.15213151]

>>15213148
wrong image, that's not the orbital module

[Anonymous No.15213176]

Skylon aside, is SABRE a meme?

[Anonymous No.15213185]

>>15213138
Still not as bad as Gemini

3-person autonomous TKS-VA would have been pretty bad too, although only used for a day maximum.

[Anonymous No.15213192]

>>15213151
tfw no Apollo orbital modules

[Anonymous No.15213193]

>>15212916
>"I've got the guy"

[Anonymous No.15213194]

>>15213096
>they don't see spaceflight as a goal, but a means to get government money.

[Anonymous No.15213203]

>>15213194
many such cases

[Anonymous No.15213206]

>>15213185
>As part of the in-flight medical experiments, the crew were required to collect and save some of their bodily wastes for post-flight analysis, a task they described as less-than-enjoyable. The urine collection device proved particularly difficult and unpleasant to use, especially because of its habit of leaking urine, which happened several times during the flight.

Two weeks in this without being able to move...

[Anonymous No.15213212]

>>15213102
Let's be honest, the legs were what made ITS look cool, otherwise it's uglier than BFR/SS

[Anonymous No.15213216]

>>15213008
Rain world just recently got a dlc that was made in part by modders. fucking tripled the size of the game and added tons of new slugcats

[Anonymous No.15213223]

https://pickerwheel.com/pw?id=VRDY2

When is OFT happening? Let the wheel decide!

[Anonymous No.15213230]

>>15213223
i rolled 2 weeks. what did you get?

[Anonymous No.15213232]

>>15213223

[Anonymous No.15213233]

>>15213230
Nice! I got that too

[Anonymous No.15213235]

>Polaris 1 delayed to July
guess the suit is being problematic....

[Anonymous No.15213242]

[Anonymous No.15213244]

>>15213242
Wtf

[Anonymous No.15213247]

>>15213242
I like it desu, resembles X-33, make it horizontal landing too

[Anonymous No.15213249]

>>15213242
SAITANIZATION

[Anonymous No.15213251]

>>15213247
>>15213242
Fuck I meant X-37

[Anonymous No.15213263]

>>15213244

[Anonymous No.15213270]

>>15213247
We could've had viable reusable rockets before SpaceX, but noooooo NASA wanted a rocket that was way better than how they imagine the shittle's performance even though a clean sheet design that does the basic things the shuttle did would've been an improvement by not having a cursed development cycle. I hate the shuttle.

[Anonymous No.15213272]

>>15213270
NASA made so many retarded decisions but the worst of them was ending the shuttle program without an existing replacement vehicle

Ironic because Columbia happened 1-2 years after they cancelled X-33 altogether

[Anonymous No.15213275]

>>15213242
>literal kid drawing rocket
lmao the muskrat does another scam
luckly the SLS and blue origin's lander will take us back to the moon

[Anonymous No.15213277]

>>15213275
It's an edit you doop

But damn I wish it was real, it looks cool

[Anonymous No.15213284]

>>15213242
It looks like a design change Elon would've tweeted about once and then forgotten within a month

[Anonymous No.15213290]

Is there any use to launching rockets from Antarctica?

[Anonymous No.15213292]

It's genuinely pathetic how limited Starship is by volume. Like, holy fuck. Why bother with all that performance if you're gonna be lucky to find any payload that fits throughout the weird ass sliding door that can't even fit things more than 5 meters wide?

[Anonymous No.15213295]

>>15213290
Alpha Centauri direct

[Anonymous No.15213297]

>>15213292
idiot, its payload optimized, its fucking genius, we will see everything from slits to slats to hinged doors to chomper and it won't cost much to do

[Anonymous No.15213302]

>>15213292
Even with the Lox tank on top taking up a bit of space there is a shitton of room for a hinged thingy like this

[Anonymous No.15213304]

>>15213297
>>15213302
Yeah, you guys keep huffing that copium. There's zero chance Elon shifts away from the small sliding door.

[Anonymous No.15213311]

>>15213304
skill issue

[Anonymous No.15213312]

>>15213304
>source for this claim: my gaping asshole

[Anonymous No.15213316]

>>15213304
Musk-1s cannot be reasoned with anon

[Anonymous No.15213336]

What will SpaceX use as dummy payload for the Starship orbtical launch?

[Anonymous No.15213340]

>>15213292
The great thing is tht Starship has margin to lose performances

[Anonymous No.15213347]

>>15213312
Source is at Starbase. They had to add plating around the Starlink dispenser of S27, making walls in certain areas 16 mm thick.

[Anonymous No.15213350]

>>15213176
>those macaroni lookin' ass bent intakes
what were they thinking?

[Anonymous No.15213351]

>>15213347
That's why previous Ships had their doors welded shut.

[Anonymous No.15213355]

>>15213351
But that variants is obviously made for Starlink, nothing else. They have to find a workaround to make commercial missions possible.

[Anonymous No.15213358]

>>15213194
how dare you imply such a thing about Elon

[Anonymous No.15213363]

>>15213351
To keep what was inside from getting out

[Anonymous No.15213366]

>>15213358
Learn to read, retard. He was talking about Europe.

[Anonymous No.15213367]

>>15213304
Take your meds

[Anonymous No.15213368]

>>15213363
yes, the air

[Anonymous No.15213382]

>>15213336
Can't put a payload into S24, its door is welded shut. So it will be empty

[Anonymous No.15213387]

Wait what's the cargo bay like? Doesn't the User guide show a big bay?

[Anonymous No.15213392]

Is there a market for the 2 stage baby project rhombus?

[Anonymous No.15213399]

>>15213368
i cant tell you what was really inside.

[Anonymous No.15213400]

>>15213387
It's like
>>15213302
but there is a simplistic elevator cage going up around the perimeter of the starlinks

And instead of a giant door hinges it is a simple steel flap on the bottom of the elevator that slides open and closed.

Hence the PEZ dispenser name

[Anonymous No.15213409]

>>15213400
Thanks, that makes sense for now starship will launch mostly starlink and commercial satellites, large doors will only be needed several years down the line.

[Anonymous No.15213425]

>>15213409
Wrong, dispenser is made solely for Starlink launches. Regular commercial satellites won't fit through those tiny doors.

[Anonymous No.15213441]

>>15213366
i should've expected it to go over some heads in a spaceflight thread

[Anonymous No.15213452]

>>15213409
It is used only for Starlink's. Other payloads will either use a sideways hinge door or chomper door. Probably not a revolving door or two-part shuttle door

[Anonymous No.15213511]

>>15213392
The smallest payload they're talked about was around 1,600 kg. That's a fully-reusable rocket that's already out-lifting Alpha, RS1, Vega, Epsilon, and all but one of the Minotaur variants, and well beyond what the Electron and SSLV are capable of. After they admitted to be planning FFSC engines for their first stage they also said they were going to be able to do "a lot" better than 1.6 mt to LEO. There's going to be a market for this rocket.

[Anonymous No.15213512]

Well I got her number, what the fuck do I do now?

She's an econ major but matched with my profile that is clearly full of space photos. Maybe I should take her to an observatory? What other ideas do people have for space dates? I could take her to watch a launch but that's a 3.5hr drive one way and I'm not doing that unless I know her better after a couple dates.

[Anonymous No.15213517]

German shuttle

[Anonymous No.15213519]

>>15213512
>Well I got her number, what the fuck do I do now?

[Anonymous No.15213520]

>>15213512
Go somewhere with low light pollution, bring a telescope if you have one.

[Anonymous No.15213526]

Call me crazy but this seems fucking retarded risky. Engine burns for a few more seconds than expected? Atmospheric entry was different than you expected and changed the entry by a few degrees? One little programming error and some value is off by only a slight number? All it takes is one little mistake, you accidentally hit japan, and now everyone is nuking you

[Anonymous No.15213533]

We're going to end up as /plasmamagnetsailgeneral/, aren't we?

[Anonymous No.15213536]

>>15213526
>country that has been eating itself for decades has very poor decision-making skills

[Anonymous No.15213538]

>>15213533
>plasma
>1 result
You're the only one who mentioned that word this entire thread

[Anonymous No.15213539]

>>15213526
>but this seems fucking retarded
Welcome to North Korea

[Anonymous No.15213540]

>>15212542
This is the most retarded bullshit i had seen in my stupid life, and i've just had pass another /sci/ threads lmao

[Anonymous No.15213552]

>>15213526
Norks don't give a shit. Although I doubt they'd get nuked over something like that even if it hit Japan

[Anonymous No.15213575]

>>15213540
It's even worse, everyone is expecting ISS sized modules, Gateway is all Cygnus sized, HALO and I-HAB (no iflatable like pic related but pic shows Cygnus size modules)

Astronauts will be going from tin cans to a mansion when they board Starship HLS

[Anonymous No.15213584]

Are the commercial stations really gonna happen by the end of the decade?

Apparently Bezos isn’t too interested in it and the other space ceos say they want money from NASA to build them

[Anonymous No.15213600]

>>15213526
They can control the landing position up until the moment the motor burns out. It's not that risky so long as they maintain good guidance.

[Anonymous No.15213603]

>>15213584
Probably not, my guess is NASA will drop CLD and just use Axiom when it detaches

Which sucks because I want a US space station at a US friendly inclination, think of the extra payload we could send and faster time to reach station when not needing to do a stupid retarded 51.6 degree inclination burn to reach it

[Anonymous No.15213632]

Is that a capsule on the blue origin patch?

[Anonymous No.15213634]

can I buy random old used spacex rocket parts (like a small one that's been cut down you know) that have gone to space? do they sell those? Can they break down a booster they won't use any more so I can own a hunk of metal that's been been to space???

[Anonymous No.15213636]

>>15213632
It’s a mercury capsule lol

[Anonymous No.15213684]

>>15212606
Those basterds left a shit ton of RTG powered light houses everywhere, ungaurded, unattended. They didnt give a shit of some african warlord got stole some plutonium, they wanted unsuspecting looters to die of radiation

[Anonymous No.15213717]

>>15213634
I think the effort spent chopping up a booster and shipping it to random people isn't worth whatever you'd pay for it to SpaceX. Time is their most valuable commodity.

[Anonymous No.15213746]

Shuttle docked to ISS is just one of the coolest damn images ever.

[Anonymous No.15213775]

>>15213684
This is how it should be

[Anonymous No.15213780]

>>15213746
And not just the shuttle. You've got Endeavour at one end and the ATV-2 Johannes Kepler docked at the other from back when the ESA still did cargo delivery.

[Anonymous No.15213792]

>>15213780
Aren't one of the dead cargo launchers restarting production? I feel like I heard that mentioned in a Hullo video recently but can't find any articles on it. Might be the HTV?

[Anonymous No.15213827]

>>15213792
The HTV-X was supposed to start launching next year, but that was before the H3 got delayed with its main engine redesign. There's also ideas about using a further upgraded HTV-XG version to resupply Gateway. How much resupply Gateway actually needs with it's limited occupation and Dragon XL already contracted is an open question.

There's also a steady stream of ideas coming out of Europe for using the ATV as an independent space station or a domestic crew vehicle. Those never get any traction but they were well-researched enough to get the ATV's system bus used for as the basis Orion's service module.

[Anonymous No.15213832]

>>15213827
>Dragon XL
I've heard absolutely nothing about this since it was announced. Seriously wondering if it's going the way of Phobos and Deimos; a whisper of the Good Idea Fairy and nothing more.

[Anonymous No.15213855]

>>15213746
The shuttle was a cool vehicle

>>15213832
Didn’t SpaceX get a lot of money to develop them?

[Anonymous No.15213863]

>>15213832
Dragon XL should ideally be a cargo starship variant with a docking port instead of doors.

[Anonymous No.15213867]

Next american M.I.R.V. launch will have SpaceX on its side

[Anonymous No.15213880]

>>15213584
>Bezos is not too interested
>says he wants to build an ONeill Cylinder

Does this retard think at all?

[Anonymous No.15213882]

>>15213867
>Starship with a few high caliber coilguns can perform orbital bombardment with tiny nukes or even small airbursting conventional warheads

[Anonymous No.15213914]

>>15213023
KSP runs way rougher than it should
I think there’s a memory leak or something

[Anonymous No.15213915]

Can anyone find any problems with my plan?
>In the right circumstances, Mars's surface temperature (the actual temperature of the air you'd feel) can reach as high as 70 Degrees, what would be considered a pleasant spring day on Earth.
>Put on the masks from Avatar
>Put on an F-22 counter-pressure garment over my chest
>walk out the airlock and experience Mars like a chad for a few minutes before I get the bends/ too much radiation exposure
I couldn't find any major issues associated with low pressure that can't be solved with a face mask since having a hard time breathing and mucus and eye fluid evaporation are the main issues, besides pulmonary barotrauma, which is easily fixed by wearing something tight fitting over your chest, (it literally is just being able to injure your lungs by being able to take too big breaths.)
Another note, from what I've heard, the bends can be alleviated by slowly depressurizing the airlock since in diving, you can prevent the bends entirely by swimming up to the surface in sections and taking a short break in between each layer of elevation.

[Anonymous No.15213921]

>>15213526
>Let’s kill millions of people with nukes and bio weapons because a rocket landed in an empty forest and killed a squirrel
Yeah you’re not very smart

[Anonymous No.15213922]

>>15213539
North Korea is eastern Asian and as such about as intelligent as whites.

[Anonymous No.15213927]

>>15213526
>you accidentally hit japan, and now everyone is nuking you
ziggers had cruisers fly into poland, romania and one Kh even found their way into croatia. Do you see the big, scary nooks exploding?

>inb4 never happened/ukranian missile
keen eyes spotted pieces from both the kh series cruiser and a S-300 missile. Pretty obvious ukranian AA was targeting a vatnik missile that was off course. Later just everyone pretended nothing happened like the moldova and Romania incident. croatian one crashed straight in the city suburbs so you could not deny it, they just pretended not knowing from whom it was despite all eyes observing every movement in the theater for a full year.

[Anonymous No.15213934]

There does not seem to be a general, thread, or guide in the /sci/ guide so i'll ask here. What telescopes do you all use for general astronomy? I want to go stargazing with some friends but my current telescope is garbage and Id rather buy something intro-enthusiast tier.

[Anonymous No.15213937]

>>15213292
99% of Starship launches is going to be refuelling. In fact, they can make it even shorter because propellant is mass limited.

[Anonymous No.15213946]

>>15213927
It does not help that Russia is using S300 as ersatz ballistic missiles.
I'm 100% convinced the missile that hit Poland was one of two that were meant to hit Kiyv railway Station and Lviv aircraft repair facility , but they messed up inputting longitude and latitude.

[Anonymous No.15213948]

>>15213937
> 99% of Starship launches is going to be refuelling
I’M GONNA SAY THE D-WORD!

[Anonymous No.15213957]

>>15213937
At 150 tons of payload capacity, no more than 89% of Starship launches could be fuel.

[Anonymous No.15213962]

>>15213937
Nah, they'll just fill it as much as possible until the TWR of the whole stack is low enough to reach Saturn V tier, even with max throttled engines. Over time payload will increase enough for tankers to bring a pretty absurd amount of fuel up in one go, and I think SpaceX is anticipating this. Just look at how Falcon 9 started with a payload to LEO of 20,000 lbs with 1.0 all the way to 50,000 lbs with Block 5. I doubt that Starship's improvement will be that drastic, considering that they're starting off with all the knowledge they knew after Block 5, but the massive improvements between Raptor 1 and 2 are still a good sign that they're far from peaking at the start.

[Anonymous No.15213969]

>>15213880
He doesn't really care about space, just rich guy globohomo shit. He only mentioned O'Neill tubes because Elon is the Mars guy.

[Anonymous No.15213974]

>>15213969
He used to care about space, he was a tube enthusiast at least as far back as his college days. Then, Amazon ate all the time he would have devoted to Blorigin so that company floundered without real leadership, and his passion gradually faded to the point that he was satisfied with a carnival ride and a wasted bottle of champagne.

[Anonymous No.15213990]

>>15213880
>says he wants to build an ONeill Cylinder
He should call it Halo or some shit. It's like he forgot how to market to normies. He's not going to put money into building some shit like that or else he would market it. He's talking out his ass.

[Anonymous No.15213992]

Orbital Queef

[Anonymous No.15213993]

>>15213962
Literally every pic or render with a starship is beautiful wtf

[Anonymous No.15214013]

I constantly oscillate between wanting to be an infantry marine and wanting to stick with my education and get a phd. Help me bros…

[Anonymous No.15214015]

>>15214013
what could you possibly get out of being a marine?

[Anonymous No.15214018]

>>15214015
I like vehicles and it honestly looks like a lot of fun. I grew up with a lot of military stuff.
I tried to be a pilot a few years ago but the marines said “no, you have shit eyesight”. I’m not almost done with Uni, maybe going to do my pHd, maybe applying to medschool in 3 years, etc. But this whole STEM stuff is such a fucking grind and I hate it.

[Anonymous No.15214030]

>>15214018
sounds like you want to do one thing and feel like you need to do another. If you like it that much then I would recommend being a marine. Maybe it's just me, but sticking to something for years just because I felt like I had to just drained me.

[Anonymous No.15214032]

>>15214018
It sounds like you like the idea of being a marine - but do you think you will enjoy the reality? Will you be better equipped for the rest of your life on the other side? Is this a whim or a long standing desire?

[Anonymous No.15214085]

i sleep...

[Anonymous No.15214088]

>>15214013

[Anonymous No.15214093]

>>15213684
RTG was a minor plot device in one of their movie.
https://youtu.be/OFp2ypeojCI?t=5875

[Anonymous No.15214107]

>>15214088
But is he a GAMER

[Anonymous No.15214108]

>>15214088
This picture proves that he's gifted.

[Anonymous No.15214113]

>>15214108
He's right though

Most navy seals or doctors aren't gigabrains, but very determined people. I guess you could that level of determination a form of giftedness though

[Anonymous No.15214120]

>>15214113
That was my point. Normal people don't have that kind of determination, strong will, or whatever you want to call it.

[Anonymous No.15214150]

Mars pressurized rover prototype .

[Anonymous No.15214152]

>>15214150

[Anonymous No.15214161]

>>15214152
Kino worm lines

[Anonymous No.15214177]

>>15214150
They have had this forever.
I wonder if they could actually send this to mars once starship is running.

[Anonymous No.15214191]

what's next in Starbased?

[Anonymous No.15214198]

>>15214191
1) [on-going] - OLM scafolding
2) OLM shielding
3) Launch Tower shielding
4) Full stack
5) FAA licence
6) Orbit

[Anonymous No.15214201]

>>15214198
sound like at least 2 months

[Anonymous No.15214204]

>>15214198
How soon for dedicated starlink ships?

[Anonymous No.15214213]

>>15214201
From Christian Davenport - Space reporter at The Washington Post : "From what I hear, everything is on track for a March launch attempt as far as the FAA is concerned."

Late March - Early April is the target most of the insiders point

[Anonymous No.15214216]

>>15214150
imagine you asked aircraft engineer to build you a pickup truck from scratch
but the aircraft engineer has never seen a car in his entire life and just went with your vague description of what it's meant to do
that's the vibe I'm getting from this vehicle (and it's probably not that far from reality)

[Anonymous No.15214217]

engine situation still looks sketchy to me. 2 failed to ignite

[Anonymous No.15214218]

>>15213915
You would still have to deal with ebulism.

[Anonymous No.15214219]

>>15214217
Wrong on all accounts. 1 wasn't turned on. 1 shutdown after ignition. SH has engine out capabilities, how many can they fail and still make it to orbit? Probably 4-6+ with empty starship test flights at the very least because the booster is a throwaway as well, so they can fail more too and be fine.

[Anonymous No.15214220]

>>15214216
It has to be a pressure vessel and it's designed to have suit ports that keep the EVA suits on the outside.

So you probably could not design something like a pickup truck.

[Anonymous No.15214222]

>>15214217
1 was not ignited by the team and the other one reached a safe limit and shut down . I dont think is that bad . Maybe they are using very conservative limits , like SN15 if i remember correctly

[Anonymous No.15214223]

>>15214219
>1 shutdown after ignition
source? I thought it the computer decided not to turn it on just before ignition or it shut down during ignition

[Anonymous No.15214238]

>>15214223
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1623793909959901184?lang=en

>Team turned off 1 engine just before start & 1 stopped itself, so 31 engines fired overall.
>1 stopped itself
Wording is bit unclear, but not stated anywhere that the computer stopped it from turning on, before ignition, or during ignition or after ignition.

[Anonymous No.15214272]

>>15213974
Don't forget about interrupting Shatner mid speech to waste that bottle of champagne.

[Anonymous No.15214282]

>>15214220
For holding <1 atm overpressure you don't need to be THAT autistically diligent with the curved corners..
I will look over the fact cabin looks like it fell off a WWII bomber and say it's out of necessity.
But look at the wheels - they look like they came off an airliner undercarriage and all the rivets/fasteners isn't something automotive designer would ever use to hold body work

All I'm saying is, Mars rover designed by people who do cars would look somewhat different

[Anonymous No.15214289]

>>15214152
That worm line is so fucking sexy I’m willing to forgive everything else about this shitbox

[Anonymous No.15214290]

>>15214282
a fucking plastic bottle can hold 6 bar. Newspace can't build a pressure vessel without it costing hundreds of millions of dollars

[Anonymous No.15214291]

>>15214150
>Ding ding!
>It's the shitmobile!

[Anonymous No.15214303]

>>15214282
It has a very fancy articulated suspension for creeping over big rocks.
An auto engineer would probably solve this problem by having bigger wheels and a winch.

[Anonymous No.15214316]

Just found out that my Mac is overqualified to run KSP2 if I go by their recommended settings. Things would be good if they gave a definitive yes or no on whether they'll support it. Either way, I know the full release will have it, considering the OG game was ported to freaking consoles.
Hope to see Ya'll on the /sfg/ KSP2 multiplayer server!

[Anonymous No.15214317]

>>15214303
big wheels are too easy to develop. It's not that easy in cost+ contracts.

[Anonymous No.15214321]

>>15214316
some of the most realistic move physics I've seen (though it does look a bit ragdolly). and this movie is 10 years old.

[Anonymous No.15214343]

can someone give me a cost plus contract please? It seems like a really good deal. I'll hire some wagies to waste time wherever you'd like, mr senator.

[Anonymous No.15214352]

>>15213511
>they also said they were going to be able to do "a lot" better than 1.6 mt to LEO. There's going to be a market for this rocket.
Huh, haven't heard that but that's good at least. They might have a chance if it can lift 3-4 tons and is reasonably priced, though I need to see hop and first stage engine tests before I take them seriously.

[Anonymous No.15214364]

>>15214343
We need a space fork optimized for eating meals in lunar gravity, strong, yet lightweight construction. Materials must be sourced from all 50 states. you'll have 2 billion dollars plus tip :^)

[Anonymous No.15214402]

>>15214316
multiplayer is years away

[Anonymous No.15214404]

>>15214402
How is multiplayer even supposed to work with time acceleration?

[Anonymous No.15214406]

>>15214402
I do not (not!) want to play KSP with other people.
I DO want a robust singleplayer experience.
>>15214404
Nobody has ever even attempted to answer this question so therefore I choose to believe multiplayer is a meme.

[Anonymous No.15214407]

>>15214404
simple . Just remove time acceleration while on a multiplayer server

[Anonymous No.15214419]

>>15214364
How much does the donations cost over there?

[Anonymous No.15214427]

>>15214404
There was a KSP mod that handled it with timelines. It was really convoluted and frustrating to deal with.

[Anonymous No.15214434]

Where will the legs on the Mars Starship go? It will have legs, right?

[Anonymous No.15214436]

>>15214434
It will land on belly

[Anonymous No.15214437]

>>15214434
Mars and musk was a hook to gather brilliant employees in one place.
All for the true purpose of sunshade on venus.

[Anonymous No.15214439]

>>15214402
>join /sfg/ ksp2 server
>half of the players are on the starting runway arguing which of their spaceplanes is the most fuckable
>the other half are fighting over who owns what planet or moon
>they try using penis shaped mass drivers on each other
>most of them dont even work
>theres a plaque dedicated to krystal on the mohole for some reason

[Anonymous No.15214442]

>>15214402
I promised myself I wouldn't get hyped over KSP2 and wait until a few major updates were out before getting it, but I'm probably gonna cave and buy it when it comes out.
>>15214439
wtf?

[Anonymous No.15214445]

>>15214439
Don't get judgmental, those exhausts are asking for it

[Anonymous No.15214458]

>>15214406
>Not wanting to Project Orion your friends' outpost efforts

[Anonymous No.15214460]

>>15214404
everyone has to click fast forward, until then it's normal speed
and it's enforced by people yelling at you to click the button for fuck sake

[Anonymous No.15214466]

>>15214439
>elegant
>air intake on the nose that magically routes through the entire fuselage

They need to have a mod that forces you design rational air intakes and actually has paths for the inlet air to travel.

[Anonymous No.15214477]

>Today in a secret place, I got to see a mechanical computer from the Soyuz module. After much brainstorming we managed to realign the longitude indicator which was not reading the correct position compared to the globe. You need to time it right, like ignition in your car engine!
https://twitter.com/Siliconinsid/status/1627086676601495556

[Anonymous No.15214478]

>>15214460
Everyone will probably just move their bases to Jool for the reasonable transit time between moons.

[Anonymous No.15214493]

>>15214477
Does anyone know why the Soviets went for a mechanical computer for their spacecraft rather than an electrical one?

[Anonymous No.15214496]

>>15214364
>strong, yet lightweight construction
this calls for solid beryllium

[Anonymous No.15214497]

>>15214493
Historically the answer to that has been inability to produce an equivalent electronic computer that was as small / light / power hungry.

[Anonymous No.15214498]

>>15214493
meme answer:
click-clack>beep-boop
real answer:
Stalin was afraid of computers

[Anonymous No.15214509]

>>15214150
>>15214152
Do they make it look bad on purpose? Aside from JAXA car, LM and GM came up with much better rover, although not pressurized.

[Anonymous No.15214512]

>>15214150
I have never seen this thing on any sort of incline.
>>15214509
>Do they make it look bad on purpose?
Probably to justify designing a whole new one once it inevitably fails. Seriously, with the new wave of EVs you could take an EV truck, strip it down, add a much of heat sinks, and you got a new space rover.

[Anonymous No.15214517]

>>15214509
>headrests
>suit in image clearly has life support systems above the back of the helmet
why

[Anonymous No.15214524]

>>15214352
If they can manage low cost and high cadence they can make do with a lot less payload than you might expect. The Proton and Soyuz were both used for launching GLONASS satellites, but these days Russia prefers to launch single satellites on a Soyuz-2-1b because it's cheaper than launching three satellites on a Proton-M. They do have a lot of big milestones left to reach, but they've got a better plan than most of the people in the industry.

[Anonymous No.15214529]

>>15214364
For the rugged conditions of the moon, we need this fork to have electronics hardened against extreme radiation, and be powered by a mini-RTG. It also needs to have retractable prongs that can detect poisons, pathogens, vermin and human flesh (we shouldn't bring weapons into space, after all). It also needs a micro LED screen to display it's status and display uplifting messages to the crew. We need an ergonomic grip, and a carbon fibre frame impregnated with alabama river rocks. That might be a good start.

[Anonymous No.15214538]

>>15214477
Awesome

[Anonymous No.15214547]

The first OLM shielding had been installed. They’ll probably get it done in two or so weeks.

[Anonymous No.15214551]

>>15214547
I’m so scared for the orbital attempt lol. This is one big rocket

[Anonymous No.15214554]

>>15214551
Same. If it at least clears the pad, fine, but I’d be disappointed if it didn’t make orbit after all this testing

[Anonymous No.15214559]

>>15214547
And here’s what the finished product is supposed to look like

[Anonymous No.15214633]

>>15214150
>>15214152
I kinda hate these

[Anonymous No.15214640]

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1627340245669670912
>At the end of an interview on "Meet the Press", Sec. of State Blinken is asked if the US government has talked with SpaceX about restrictions it's placed on the use of Starlink by Ukraine. "I can't share any conversations we've had other than to say that we've had conversations."

[Anonymous No.15214644]

>>15214559
20 engine spin start qd. the most retarded rocket ever conceived.

[Anonymous No.15214646]

>>15214640
>they leak out ongoing negotiations with spacex to damage spacex
>gaslight spacex by claiming Elon BAD
Biden

[Anonymous No.15214665]

>>15214640
This was obvious to anyone but redditors

[Anonymous No.15214669]

>>15214150
it looks like a mobile port-a-potty

[Anonymous No.15214689]

>>15214120
It’s something you can work on unlike pure brains though, you want something just increase the time spent doing it.

[Anonymous No.15214694]

>>15214665
>>15214640
It’s obvious that some sort of agreement had been reached. “Starshield” is probably not a wholly organic SpaceX idea either.

[Anonymous No.15214708]

>>15213927
Go back to your containment board

[Anonymous No.15214713]

>>15214694
they launched those government starlinks long before this happened. starshield has probably been a thing for awhile.

[Anonymous No.15214718]

>>15214434
Eventually they want to have chopsticks on Mars but that will take a long time. With the lower gravity on Mars, landing legs could be far less robust than what is required on Earth, though more than what they'd need on the Moon.
>>15214436
Imagine the belly fitted with a large number of small legs like a centipede.

[Anonymous No.15214720]

>Starlink is cash flow positive with 1 million users
Does this mean they’ll generate $1 billion a year if they have “only” 2 million users?

[Anonymous No.15214726]

>>15212653
I honestly think the biggest thing with KSP2 is the upgraded base engine and (hopefully) non-spaghetti code base that will enable modders to do 10x more than they've been able to do

[Anonymous No.15214730]

>>15214644
The 20 spinup connections are
1 cheap pipe
2 can easily be repaired as soon as the mount cools down within hours
3 are not required to disconnect quickly, just safely when the rocket tears them free
It doesn't sound that bad to me

[Anonymous No.15214733]

>>15214726
Other star systems will be neat, I'm playing around with the outer planets mod now after colonizing Laythe for the 10th time and getting bored.

[Anonymous No.15214741]

Well, this means that Gaganyaan's OFT is definitely getting delayed until 2024.

That said, Chandrayaan-3 could conceivably launch on a Falcon 9. It won't, but there's no physical reason why it couldn't.

[Anonymous No.15214746]

>>15214741
That’s actually fucking stupid imagine being an ISRO engineer and watching your program get cucked because your bosses wanted to make money

[Anonymous No.15214751]

>>15214741
>>15214746
>you must launch on a foreign rocket
fuck off

[Anonymous No.15214753]

>>15214751
I’m saying that’s retarded, dumbass. ISRO shouldn’t sell out their own interests just to make OneWeb moneu

[Anonymous No.15214755]

>>15214720
They have ~1M users. Suppose 5% are business users paying $2.5K/m and 95% paying $100/m avg. Thats 50K business users paying $125M/m x 12 = $1.5B/y and 950K residential users paying $95M/m x 12 = $1.14B/y. Total of $2.64B/y.

It costs SpaceX ~$300K to make a sat, with ~4000 sats in orbit, thats's ~$1.2B in hardware alone. Then 4000/58 starlink per F9 avg = 69 F9 launches x $30M = $2B.

$4.4B in cost alone for that. Divide that by 2 years and we have $2.2B per year. Add in additional ~$100M per year in cost of operations for support/employees/etc. That means per year, they're probably doing ~$2.3B per year in cost and $2.64B in revenue. So that leaves a "profit" of ~$340M right now for this year. Ofcourse that profit will be used to cover last year's $2.3B cost.
Next year, with 2M customers, at 5% business users, that would net them $3B/y and $2.28B from non-commercial. Total of ~$5.28B. Writing off the first year's $2B debt, they will now have a profit of ~$3.3B next year

[Anonymous No.15214757]

>>15214547
Is the tower shielding(on the left) new or am I seeing things for the first time?

[Anonymous No.15214758]

>>15214741
>OneWebb
Give me one reason for this to exist when Starlink already beat them to the punch.

[Anonymous No.15214764]

>>15214757
Yeah I did a double take too. SpaceX is moving really fucking fast

[Anonymous No.15214765]

>>15214758
British Government wants their own network. Also independent of EU and US.

[Anonymous No.15214767]

Just a reminder that it only took 40 years to go from not being able to fly at all to landing on the moon. All your hopes for space flight are completely in reach but will never be achieved.

[Anonymous No.15214775]

>>15214741
So Luna 25 will launch first?

[Anonymous No.15214779]

>>15214746
The ISRO has an annual budget of less than $2 billion. In some ways they're even more desperate for cash than the Russians.

>>15214758
>OneWeb stated its market would be primarily to businesses, governments including defense, phone network operators and clusters of communities, rather than to individual domestic customers which Starlink primarily targets
Different services provided to different market segments.

[Anonymous No.15214785]

>>15214751
There’s shame launching on a foreign rocket, but no one should feel bad using spacex. Even boeing has launched payloads on a F9

[Anonymous No.15214795]

>>15214402
>basic base game features now not included in sequels initial release

tired of this shit

[Anonymous No.15214800]

>>15214032
>It sounds like you like the idea of being a marine - but do you think you will enjoy the reality?
This but being an astronaut, going to space, mars etc

[Anonymous No.15214812]

>>15214015
If you’re lucky you get to kill people

[Anonymous No.15214814]

>>15214751
If you want to launch in the near future and you can't increase your production tempo, and there aren't alternate domestic rockets available, then you've no choice.

[Anonymous No.15214816]

>>15214775
That's actually a possibility. The last news I've been able to find was saying that it's almost ready to go.

[Anonymous No.15214819]

>>15214816
Watch it fail to land on the moon or even reach the moon and then Russia's humiliation will be complete

[Anonymous No.15214825]

>>15214730
>It doesn't sound that bad to me
Only because you're ignoring that they're also the parts responsible for holding the rocket upright, keeping it vertical, and holding it down at ignition. This part of the system badly needs to be simplified, for the sake of launch cadence if nothing else.

[Anonymous No.15214827]

>>15214767
It was 66 years.

[Anonymous No.15214845]

>>15214819
It should be able to reach the moon, even if only ballistically. The propulsion section is just a reliable old Fregat stage that someone bolted legs to, and ever since they dropped the proposed impactors all of the science package is just passive sensors. It's the soft landing part that Russia doesn't have recent experience in. Last time they managed anything like that was back in 1973.

[Anonymous No.15214869]

>>15214845
No one has recent experience in successful lunar soft landing except china lol. Crazy to think about that

[Anonymous No.15214870]

>>15214816
>>15214845
Fregat is unironically really cool. Actually, Russia’s use of space tugs in general is cool.

[Anonymous No.15214881]

>>15214816
Why are their solar panels yellow?

[Anonymous No.15214882]

Lunar gateway HALO module looks really small desu

[Anonymous No.15214894]

https://twitter.com/cb_doge/status/1627053061859590144

Elon teaching kids at spacex (employees) school ad astra

[Anonymous No.15214905]

>>15213600
they can make small adjustments after that as well

[Anonymous No.15214907]

>>15214825
>the spinup quick disconnect piping is responsible for holding the rocket upright, keeping it vertical, and holding it down at ignition.
Nigger what
Have you ever even seen a launch mount before

[Anonymous No.15214909]

>>15214466
what's that pic

[Anonymous No.15214913]

>>15214882
Did you know that the only part of Cygnus Northrop builds is the service module? The pressure vessel is built by Thales

[Anonymous No.15214915]

>>15214882
and it has no windows

[Anonymous No.15214920]

>>15214905
Which is probably going to need to be done for every vehicle between every flight, along with making sure everything keeps working and all the seals are good. There's just too many interfaces and moving parts.

[Anonymous No.15214931]

>>15214894
lol I love this. I like that he enjoys kids. Hopefully a majority of these youngins grow up to be super smart and autistic about space

[Anonymous No.15214932]

>>15214907
Have you? The Orbital Launch Mount has the external spin start hardware attached to the hold down arms.

[Anonymous No.15214934]

>>15214932
Oh wait, did I mix that up and they make the thing /even more/ batshit than that, with no less than forty different moving elements that have to retract at launch?

[Anonymous No.15214936]

>>15214559
you need to replace that soijak head on top with a chad head

[Anonymous No.15214961]

>>15214936
what are you talking about???

[Anonymous No.15214970]

>>15214961
Wojak brain rot. Many such cases

[Anonymous No.15214975]

>>15214882
what's the pressurized volume?

[Anonymous No.15214979]

>>15214975
17 m3

[Anonymous No.15214984]

>>15214979
>2.5 x 2.5 x 2.5

[Anonymous No.15214994]

>>15214975
Cubic kilometer

[Anonymous No.15215018]

>>15214979
>>15214984
Seems like both HALO and IHS will be ~36m3 of pressurised volume with ~10m3 of habitable volume each, so about the same as Harmony module together?

[Anonymous No.15215019]

>>15214765

[Anonymous No.15215035]

Why even use anything else than a typical TLI transfer? a few hundred m/s of dV is not worth getting 6month-1 year long transfer

[Anonymous No.15215041]

>>15214931
Kids are kind of an integral part of his perpetuation of civilization angle. So it's no wonder he likes them.

[Anonymous No.15215057]

>>15214961
the QD looks like a soiface

[Anonymous No.15215064]

Predictions for orbital? My guess is
>clears the tower
>clears maxQ
>residual thrust or funky aero causes B7 to slam into S24 on stage sep in a cruel twist of fate a la Falcon 1

>>15214894
God he's so bad at speaking, it's like listening to a really old lawnmower trying to start. That said, it's obvious that his brain is running at 20k rpm and his mouth simply can't keep up, met plenty of people just like that.

[Anonymous No.15215068]

>>15215041
idk gives me Karellen vibes

[Anonymous No.15215085]

>>15213526
I want to know whether they hit escape dV or orbital dV

[Anonymous No.15215095]

Crew Dragon getting ready

[Anonymous No.15215099]

>>15215095
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1627356339788996608

[Anonymous No.15215100]

>>15215095
she's getting ready for the Russian spacemen

[Anonymous No.15215120]

>>15215095
why is it naked

[Anonymous No.15215121]

can plants be used to convert c02 in space stations back into oxygen?

[Anonymous No.15215133]

>>15215121
Phytoplankton would be way more efficient

[Anonymous No.15215143]

>>15215064
I have a bad feeling about Max Q

[Anonymous No.15215156]

[Anonymous No.15215167]

>>15215156
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1627356339788996608
>Crew-6 Dragon arrives at LC-39A ahead of flight
Will manned Starship hardware look as sexy as this?

[Anonymous No.15215170]

>>15215133
has it been tried?

[Anonymous No.15215183]

>>15215133
>>15215170
Bioreactors are definitely feasible, but they can be finnicky as hell. Continuous culture is a bitch. The Russki's did some experiments with closed ecosystems back. From what I can tell, their "phytotrons" which were used for growing staple crops were also tasked also served as life support when the algal reactors weren't in use.

[Anonymous No.15215222]

do Sabatier reactors need clean and or maintenance

[Anonymous No.15215232]

>>15215222
No. It’s basically magic

[Anonymous No.15215238]

>>15212859
>she

[Anonymous No.15215241]

>>15215238

[Anonymous No.15215243]

>>15214913
Which western station isn't made by Thales Alenia Space these days lol?

[Anonymous No.15215247]

>>15215243
The inflatables (Bigelow/SNC), solar arrays (Boing!), and electric thrusters (Maxar) are all American.

[Anonymous No.15215248]

>>15214934
Should be cheaper to deal with that complexity than lift spin start hardware into space

[Anonymous No.15215254]

>>15214547
TWO or so WEEKS

[Anonymous No.15215255]

>>15215248
Spin start hardware, sure. But surely from a launch operations tempo and maintenance standpoint, one, two, or even four connections and a manifold would be better.

[Anonymous No.15215261]

>>15212886
The Japanese year is January 1 to December 31, and has been since 1873.

[Anonymous No.15215262]

>>15215247
yeah sorry, I know, I meant the pressure vessels.

[Anonymous No.15215265]

>>15214913
lmao

[Anonymous No.15215266]

>>15212982
Depends on whether or not they delay the launch until it's built.

[Anonymous No.15215269]

>>15215261
You know what I mean. They said 年度 and that's what it refers to, even if it's the fiscal year now

[Anonymous No.15215272]

>>15213146
/sfg/: KSP General

[Anonymous No.15215278]

>>15213512
Have sex.

[Anonymous No.15215287]

>>15214931
Daily reminder atheists don’t have children so there will never be a Mars colony unless it’s founded by Mormons or something

[Anonymous No.15215289]

>>15213512
Why are you asking this question here? I have never been on a date.

[Anonymous No.15215308]

>>15215241
lmfao I was hoping nobody saved this. I felt guilty after posting it, and some of the pixels are way off

[Anonymous No.15215316]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_e0Tluq9_U

[Anonymous No.15215326]

Clear is a GIRL(female), cease disrespecting my wife at once.

[Anonymous No.15215328]

>>15215326
Pull the trigger on yourself, piglet.

[Anonymous No.15215337]

>>15215326
Rule 29
Prove it :)

[Anonymous No.15215344]

>>15215337
If she's a boy, why does she make my ding-a-ling swell?

[Anonymous No.15215348]

>>15215344
Because you're a faggot.

[Anonymous No.15215359]

>>15215287
This is an explicit goal of DezNat, it will happen.
But mormon TFR has dropped a lot in the past few years, they'll likely remain a small minority.

[Anonymous No.15215362]

>>15215326
If she was a girl, one that weighed under 300 pounds, she would just be a normal streamer, you do realize that right? There’s a reason why males pretending to be female Vtubers is such a widespread phenomena. If you were an attractive woman, you wouldn’t need the fucking 3D model of one.

[Anonymous No.15215369]

>>15215362
>If you were an attractive woman, you wouldn’t need the fucking 3D model of one.
This woman is a vtuber with 1.6M subs, argument discarded

[Anonymous No.15215371]

>>15215369
Vtubers are computer models retard

[Anonymous No.15215372]

>>15215362
>she would just be a normal streamer

Lol, you are really clueless, there's a reason why streaming only took off in Japan when Live 2D happened and was virtually unheard of until then

There's a reason why the most popular streamers in Japan are Hololive, Niji, etc, all 2D avatars only, imagine being on the weeb site and being this clueless about Japanese internet culture, they prefer to hide their faces no matter how they look like

[Anonymous No.15215377]

>>15215371
holy fuck you're retarded

[Anonymous No.15215378]

>>15215362
Not even remotely true, newfag doesn't even know the doxxes. Shameful. Turns out being an anime e-girl is way more profitable than being a regular e-girl even if you are cute.

[Anonymous No.15215380]

>>15215371
Do you think they are AI?

[Anonymous No.15215382]

>>15215095
Speaking of check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osq_a30_Jd8

[Anonymous No.15215386]

>>15215372
>they prefer to hide their faces no matter how they look like
They're just NPCs addicted to anime.

[Anonymous No.15215387]

>>15215372
I don’t give a fuck about what you jerk off to. This is a spaceflight board.

[Anonymous No.15215388]

>>15215371

[Anonymous No.15215392]

Hi welcome to the Vtuber board can I take your order

[Anonymous No.15215393]

>>15215372
Buddy, this is /sci/, not /a/.

[Anonymous No.15215394]

>>15215387
vchubas are not for lewd

>board
This is a thread, not a spaceflight board

God what a newfag

[Anonymous No.15215397]

imagine being so obsessed about an anime animation

[Anonymous No.15215398]

We have a rocket vtuber now, it's related. Please continue to cope and seethe about anime on the anime website.

[Anonymous No.15215401]

>>15215372
Is this also the reason for their plummeting birth rates?

[Anonymous No.15215402]

>>15215398
And one deranged autist obsessively insisting she is a man lmao

[Anonymous No.15215407]

>>15215402
If it's not a man, you can easily prove it, can't you?

[Anonymous No.15215409]

>>15215401
Yes. And they get what they fucking deserve for this borderline idolatry.

[Anonymous No.15215413]

>>15215407
You sound like a flat earther or space hoaxer, unable to grasp the weight of evidence and insisting on your false belief beyond logical comprehension.

[Anonymous No.15215417]

>>15215413
You haven't provided any evidence so far.

[Anonymous No.15215419]

>>15215401
Their birth rate is stable and has been for like 25 years. It's low, not plummeting. It's also on par with most European countries and just 0.2 lower than the white TFR in the US

[Anonymous No.15215423]

>>15215419
They’re going extinct. Cope.

[Anonymous No.15215426]

>>15215241
>>15215328
>>15215348
>>15215362
>>15215371
>>15215386
>>15215387
>>15215392
>>15215393
>>15215397
>>15215402
>>15215417
FUCKING ENOUGH
4CHAN IS AN ANIME WEBSITE LOOK AT THE FUCKING BANNERS.
ANIME TAKES PRECEDENCE OVER THE SUBTOPICS, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND
NEWFAGS CANNOT UNDERSTAND IT FOR THEIR BRAINS ARE TOO SMALL
CLEAR IS A WOMAN

[Anonymous No.15215431]

>>15215372
God, Japan is repulsive.

[Anonymous No.15215432]

>>15215423
Never said they weren't, but so is everyone else

[Anonymous No.15215434]

>>15215426
Ron Paul website?

[Anonymous No.15215437]

>>15215417
You have ears don't you?

[Anonymous No.15215439]

>>15215437
No

[Anonymous No.15215441]

>>15215432
The Black Folk will be alright.

[Anonymous No.15215445]

>>15215434
you're thick in the skull arent you?

[Anonymous No.15215449]

>>15215241
this is mean :(

[Anonymous No.15215451]

>>15215441
Musk has to hurry up and terraform Mars for them before the knowledge of space travel is lost.

[Anonymous No.15215452]

It must've been incredible for the Apollo 12 astronauts to meet Surveyor 3. You're walking on places no human has ever been to, and you see one of the few pieces of evidence that mankind was there.

[Anonymous No.15215457]

>>15215426
>4CHAN IS AN ANIME WEBSITE
its a porn website first and since 2016 also a website for political extremism and schizo conspiracies (the kinds not allowed in mainstream social media)

[Anonymous No.15215458]

Anyone got the webm of dragon launch abort demo?

[Anonymous No.15215461]

>>15215452
Honestly for this reason I like Apollo 12 more than 11

[Anonymous No.15215462]

>>15215451
That’d be a really bizarre sword and sorcery setting.

[Anonymous No.15215463]

>>15215452
Imagine being an astronaut in Mars and finding a crashed probe that we didn't know the location

[Anonymous No.15215464]

>>15215461
If they hadn't pointed the color camera right at the sun and blew the sensors I bet it would be more popular and known in the public consciousness too

[Anonymous No.15215466]

She's a beautiful japanese girl isn't she?

[Anonymous No.15215471]

[Anonymous No.15215473]

I heard you talking shit about anime

[Anonymous No.15215477]

>>15215463
>inspect the probe for any identifying markers
>theres a cartoon frog crudely drawn on it

[Anonymous No.15215479]

>>15215457
>since 2016
>political extremism

[Anonymous No.15215483]

>>15215457
Holy fucking newfag

[Anonymous No.15215485]

>>15215452
Very surreal but so freaking cool

[Anonymous No.15215489]

>>15215452
>>15215461
I love doing this in KSP, checking in on past probes with manned missions.

[Anonymous No.15215492]

this vtuber streaming is exactly what I would expect some guy to do

[Anonymous No.15215495]

>>15215452
>demonstrate pin-point landing near other NASA assets
>never do anything with it again for 50+ years

reee

[Anonymous No.15215496]

>>15215489
Plus you can collect experiments from the probe using your scientist and get the full research value

[Anonymous No.15215501]

>>15215492
If if that really was a woman, she would post pictures of herself. As anon proved earlier. >>15215372

[Anonymous No.15215502]

>>15215495
it's took risky, please understand

[Anonymous No.15215508]

>>15215495
Don't you understand?! Landing creates these hypersonic dust particles that could shred everything on the moon's surface!!!1one

[Anonymous No.15215509]

>>15215501
None of the girls I posted have posted pictures of themselves, do you just not get how vtubing works? The only streamer who is that open about it is https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Inuyama_Tamaki

[Anonymous No.15215512]

>>15215509
So the rest are men. Most likely 80/20 proportion.

[Anonymous No.15215517]

>>15215512
Voice changers aren't that good anon, you can always tell, just see Artemis

[Anonymous No.15215518]

>>15215509
>The only streamer who is that open about it is
and why do you think that's the only streamer that's open about it?

[Anonymous No.15215520]

>>15215489
Imagine doing so in multiplayer now. Imagine being able to skip parts of the tech tree if you're able to take another more advanced player's probe back to the KSC.

[Anonymous No.15215521]

>>15215518
Because its a hobby for her whereas its a full time job for most vtubers

also see >>15215517

You can insist all you want it doesn't make it true. If you are this autistic then maybe you can't pick up on these voice patterns though

[Anonymous No.15215523]

>>15215520
>auto-destruct sequence triggered

Not so fast

[Anonymous No.15215526]

>>15215521
Denial

[Anonymous No.15215537]

>>15214869
Notice how you had to qualify this with 'recent'.

[Anonymous No.15215583]

>>15215462
They call it Sword and Planet

[Anonymous No.15215584]

>>15215583
Yeah like Barsoom

[Anonymous No.15215603]

>>15215518
I don't even watch v-shit but I can assure you they don't reveal themselves for the sake of keeping the illusion for the weebs, plus some of them work for corporations so they can just change the actress if needed.

[Anonymous No.15215604]

>>15215452

[Anonymous No.15215611]

[Anonymous No.15215621]

So what happens if astrobotics fucks up their lunar landing? They are a big player as part of SLD National Team.

[Anonymous No.15215649]

>>15215466
Again with the six booster H-II. Where the fuck is this woman documented?

[Anonymous No.15215665]

>>15215603
>plus some of them work for corporations so they can just change the actress if needed.

They definitely cannot without being noticed instantly

[Anonymous No.15215678]

>>15215509
>Tamaki
>Colour: #3CBCEB
>Tamaki is a close friend of Oda Nobuhime; a Twitter post from one will almost certainly result in a reply from the other.
>According to a stream on 26th June 2020, at the 2:47:11 mark, he apparently has very strong feelings about cool blonde guys

It's nice to sometimes encounter a form of autism that's so wildly divergent from my own.

[Anonymous No.15215681]

>>15213603
>single page pdf
for what purpose

[Anonymous No.15215695]

>>15215394
>>board
>This is a thread, not a spaceflight board
gb2r

[Anonymous No.15215697]

every single vehicle design proposal made in the last decade or so is such dogshit, I don't get it

[Anonymous No.15215703]

>>15215697
By ‘vehicle’ are you referring to the rocket? Or do you mean the actual spacecraft on top
I guess both have been dogshit either way lol

[Anonymous No.15215715]

>>15215703
that and mainly all these damn rovers

[Anonymous No.15215722]

>>15215715
rovers are awesome
go fuck yourself

[Anonymous No.15215730]

>>15215722
Rovers are cool when you can ride on/in them, anything else is an oversized toy.

[Anonymous No.15215735]

>>15215722
yeah man these designs really are beautiful & valid, you're right
>>15214150
>>15214152
>>15214282

[Anonymous No.15215736]

>>15215722
The last good rover was LRV.

[Anonymous No.15215755]

>>15215722
Muh heckin toy cars are awesome because they are sciencing the shit out of it

[Anonymous No.15215774]

>>15215735
The toyota one looks alright to me, the Mars one looks like an autonomous dumpster from the rear.

[Anonymous No.15215777]

>>15215755
Muh hecking astronauts are awesome they will colonize the shit out of a barren rock while eating slur grown with their own shit and piss

[Anonymous No.15215808]

>>15215777
Yes. We’ve been turning shit into food since we invented agriculture; it’s like an intrinsic part of farming.

[Anonymous No.15215825]

I always thought Cygnus was small but damn you could fill allot of shit in there

[Anonymous No.15215829]

>>15215777
It worked here

[Anonymous No.15215888]

>>15215825
Each Cygnus can is a disposable station module stuffed with cargo instead of workstations. There's been a lot of prospective design work over the years about modifying the them for various missions. Gateway's HALO module is just a stretched Cygnus.

[Anonymous No.15215893]

>>15215777
Yes.

[Anonymous No.15215897]

I have never seen this chick in the comment on Twitter before, yet she claims to be in a relationship with Elon for half a decade now.

[Anonymous No.15215902]

>>15215897
>claims to be in a relationship with Elon
God, I wish that were me.

[Anonymous No.15215921]

Was renaming Pluto to be a not-planet part of the overall plot against the White Race, or a genuine scientific discovery?

[Anonymous No.15215925]

>>15215921
Nothing whatsoever was "discovered". They just made up new definitions for no reason.

[Anonymous No.15215926]

>>15215921
Astronomy autism.

[Anonymous No.15215928]

>>15215897
Based stalker providing evidence of the sadly poorly documented phenomenon of female schizophrenia

[Anonymous No.15215931]

>>15215928
It's in her twitter bio.

[Anonymous No.15215935]

>>15215921
what

[Anonymous No.15215937]

>>15215921
It is literally tautology

[Anonymous No.15215940]

>>15215825
Look up pictures of ESA’s ATV interior. Shits actually HUGE

[Anonymous No.15215941]

>>15215931
>women never lie
>schizos don’t have delusions
>twitter bios are always true
Kek I bet you think a lot of she/hers on twitter are real women

[Anonymous No.15215942]

>>15215935
kek

[Anonymous No.15215943]

>>15215921
It's part of the destruction of America and minimization our accomplishments.
>Oh, America discovered a planet? Not so fast!

[Anonymous No.15215959]

>>15215897
Oh she’s like. Schizo schizo.

[Anonymous No.15215961]

>>15215959
>>15215897

[Anonymous No.15215964]

>>15215961
>>15215959
>>15215897
She also thinks the kids he’s had aren’t real

[Anonymous No.15215966]

>>15215964
>>15215897
Average /sci/ poster

[Anonymous No.15215967]

>>15215961
>>15215959
>>15215964
I hope she doesn’t kill him.
Maybe we should report her to him somehow so his security is aware?
Maybe Tim Dodd is easier to reach?
I don’t have a twitter.

[Anonymous No.15215968]

>>15215959
>>15215961
>>15215964
holy shit lmao

[Anonymous No.15215972]

>>15215966
>battery metal conductivity
How did you guys find this person again?

[Anonymous No.15215973]

>>15215967
>I hope twitter rando doesn’t kill him.
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.15215977]

>>15215966
I’m so confused

[Anonymous No.15215978]

>>15215973
part 2

[Anonymous No.15215981]

>>15215978
part 3

[Anonymous No.15215984]

>>15215943
>person who led the discussions and vote to demote pluto was a French jew.
Ok, this may not be baseless.

[Anonymous No.15215985]

>>15215977
Okay wait I’m not gonna lie… she kind of looks like him. Kek what if it’s just a cousin of his taking the mickey or something

[Anonymous No.15215987]

>>15215967
She’s not any more dangerous to him than the schizo who recorded himself sneaking around elons property repeatedly and posted it to YouTube

Grimes and their kids are the ones actually in danger if anyone is

[Anonymous No.15215988]

>>15215973
>>15215978
>>15215981
The only person here who concerns me is the tranny, because they are all a bit crazy.
Besides that the others are just shitposting.

[Anonymous No.15215991]

>>15215987
Didn’t see that.

[Anonymous No.15215995]

>>15215984
But was he a Jew or was he a triple-parentheses person? Just because the Rothschilds put a menorah on the table before they start passing out straws to suck the adrenochrome out of the pineal gland of a sex trafficked Guatemalan kid doesn't make it kosher.

[Anonymous No.15215999]

>>15215995
It actually does. Jews drinking childrens' bodily fluids is how they treated hemophilia before modern medicine. They are the origin of every vampire myth in Europe.

[Anonymous No.15216002]

>>15215921
It was just semantics bullshit.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0019103521004206
Alan Stern is right.

[Anonymous No.15216006]

>>15216002
>Alan Stern
A well-known alt-right grifter.

[Anonymous No.15216007]

>>15215995
Honestly the french part is as suspicious as the jewish part, but she came from a familly of diplomats with good relations with various members of the french government, and her sister was a well known sociologist who studied and advised on french immigration policy.

[Anonymous No.15216008]

>>15216006
lmao wut

[Anonymous No.15216012]

>>15216008
I just skimmed through that paper. He's just spewing misinformation and denying the science about dwarf planets.

[Anonymous No.15216013]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1626314275810852864
>The amount of solar energy received by Earth could power a civilization over 100 times larger than ours!
just saying

[Anonymous No.15216015]

>>15216007
The French people are defined by seething and coping. No one does it like them

[Anonymous No.15216016]

>>15215999
So, the person who demoted Pluto from planet status was known to be practicing traditional Jewish medicine?

>>15216007
My primary litmus test is: "Does this person exhibit the same energy as Fievel Mousekewitz from the film An American Tail?" If they've got an adequate amount of Don Bluth energy, then they're one of the good ones.

This one sounds deeply suspect.

[Anonymous No.15216017]

>>15216013
This is an argument for space based solar, not blanketing the planet in panels.

[Anonymous No.15216020]

>>15215649
I can find references to a 4 boosters H-II in

"YAMANAKA, TATSUO 4th Symposium on Multidisciplinary Analysis and Optimization - Overview of Japanese aerospace plane 1992."

[Anonymous No.15216023]

>>15216012
He must be anti vaxx too

[Anonymous No.15216025]

>>15215649
>>15216020
Launched by H-IID rocket into suborbit and
separated at about 85km altitude, the orbiter is
further accelerated by its own propulsion system and reaches an initial parking orbit of about 250km altitude.
Several configurations of H-IID are under study for feasibility and the configuration of H-II core stage with six solid rocket boosters (SRBs) was assumed as a reference launcher. the propulsion system flight sequence is as follow:

-four SRBs are ignited at the pad and the
vehicle lifts off
-the remaining two SRBs are
ignited at the altitudes prior to the
former set of SRBs burning out
-then the cryogenic engine(LE-7) of the core
stage is ignited prior to the last set of SRBs
burning out, and each set of SRBs is jettiscpled
soon after their burning out
- core stage engine burns out at the altitude of
about 85km and the orbiter is separated.

What the FUCK is that staging

2nd International Aerospace Planes Conference - Concept and technology development for HOPE spaceplane. , (), –. doi:10.2514/6.1990-5223

[Anonymous No.15216029]

>>15216025
>What the FUCK is that staging

[Anonymous No.15216034]

>>15216020
>>15216025
I think spaceplanes look cool but I fucking hate trying to make them in ksp

[Anonymous No.15216036]

>>15216025
This gets interesting

"The much heavier 22-ton manned spaceplane would have needed a much more powerful booster, such as the proposed H-IID." Space. Matthew Bentley

"Japan Delays H2 launches, Finishes HOPE Test Vehicle" Aviation Week &Space Technology, 21 August 1995 mentions it, but Aviation week's archive is dead.

[Anonymous No.15216039]

>>15216025
>What the FUCK is that staging
Not one but TWO air-starts. This is wild. I think I have a new favorite "we were robbed" launch vehicle.

[Anonymous No.15216043]

>>15215973
>>15215978
>>15215981
looks like arstechnica's comment section

[Anonymous No.15216069]

>>15216017
actually it's an argument for moving closer to the sun so we can capture more energy

[Anonymous No.15216072]

>>15216043
arstechnica more like arsetechnica

[Anonymous No.15216082]

>>15216039
I'm really having a hard time finding more info
"●H-IID (Japan)
Height 49m Thrust: 110t + Booster 320t x 6
A payload of 20t can be launched at an altitude of 460km. A launch vehicle for Japan's planned cargo shuttle, HOPE."

https://lazydog.sakura.ne.jp/jgk/Jgk/Public/Report/Orbit/application_shuttle.html

This is a bit weird, the H-II and H-IIA boosters didn't have as much thrust. and the model and art explicitely show the same variant as H-II's booster

[Anonymous No.15216086]

>>15216013
Wow keep that sink outside

[Anonymous No.15216087]

>>15216082
Recent studies about the unmanned winged recovery vehicle called the HOPE concluded that the H-II rocket does not have enough launch capability and H -II derivatives are desirable for launching the
HOPE. Typical concepts of H-II derivatives under study, shown in Figure 16, are a cluster of solid rocket boosters, a cluster of liquid oxygen/hydro-genboosters, and a hydro-carbon booster concept. The propulsion systems of these concepts are essentially the elements of the H-II rocket

Japanese launch vehicle propulsion - Status and direction. , (), –. doi:10.2514/6.1991-2513

1991, so earlier than the other studies, with a lower payload number (15 tons vs 22 tons)
I suspect this is with base H-II SRBs, since a H-II with 6 SRB would indeed weight around 540 tons, while the 22 tons variant was supposed to use larger SRBs with twice the thrust

[Anonymous No.15216098]

>>15216069
That's what Venus is for.

[Anonymous No.15216100]

>>15216098
my venus weanus of course

[Anonymous No.15216102]

>>15216087
The size
of the 10 ton HOPE is the limit payload of H-2 rocket
capability as well as the limit of the launch pad
facility without need of modification.
The launching rocket of the larger sized HOPE is specifically
specified to H-2 derivatives which mean little major
modification of H - 2 1st stage and H-2 launch pad.

It isan essential condition for the launch pad facility with
compatible uses of H-2 and H-2 derivatives. Under
these conditions, various H -2 derivatives were studied.

Increasing numbers of H-2 SRB to 6 and providing
with in orbit ignition capabilities for both of LE -7 and
two of the six SRBs in ascending orbits, the six SRB-H-2 derivative can have launching capability of the
20ton HOPE into LEO.

Three H - 2 core stages clustered configuration has launching capability of the
25ton HOPE into orbit. However, the largest H - 2
derivative of three H-2 core stages clustered requires a
new launch pad facility.

So far,the 20ton HOPE
launched by the six -SRB -H-2 derivative is the only
feasible solution. Figure 5 shows the 20ton HOPE
base line configuration

doi:10.2514/6.1991-5002

[Anonymous No.15216103]

>>15216020
>>15216025
This was the rocket that was used in the Simpsons episode where Homer goes to space. Very obscure, I wonder why they didn't just draw the Space Shuttle.

[Anonymous No.15216108]

>>15216103
Damn this is based

[Anonymous No.15216111]

>>15216098
More like Mercury
>decent gravity
>useful minerals everywhere
>loads of sun
>no faggot atmosphere

[Anonymous No.15216113]

>>15216103
Obviously they cared enough to draw a closeup of the engines including shockwaves, so they probably were quite well informed about rockets.

[Anonymous No.15216114]

>>15216113
Meanwhile, just a couple of seasons later

[Anonymous No.15216124]

>>15216103
Animation is crazy, especially hand drawn shit. A couple of guys probably slaved night and day just for this ten second clip, and were probably super excited with it once they scanned everything and saw it in motion themselves for the first time. And then like 99% of normies see it and don't think anything of it.

[Anonymous No.15216131]

>>15214795
What?

[Anonymous No.15216138]

>>15216124
Animation is definitely one of those soulcrushing sectors that feed themselves out of passionate workers, no matter the country

[Anonymous No.15216142]

>>15216131
He’s complaining about how features that are typically already in a video game from 10-15+ years ago don’t show up in sequels (or newer video games in general) and are promised “down the line” by the devs instead of just being put in the game upon release
It’s a huge problem with modern games. But that’s a whole discussion that’s way off topic lol

[Anonymous No.15216147]

>>15216138
Oh yeah it’s for sure driven by passion. I make OC animation from time to time and even if it’s just like 7 seconds, it’s so amazing seeing something finished when it took you like 2.5 hrs to do

[Anonymous No.15216160]

>>15216124
>>15216138
>>15216147
I'm going to college next year for animation. It was between that and something that'll get me into the space field, but I think my animation abilities are better than my abilities to do math.

[Anonymous No.15216163]

>>15216160
Oh shit do you have examples?? I'm a sucker for animation—but I'm a fag who can't really draw so I just trace or use images
I could draw pretty well in middle school but I went on a long hiatus and forgot everything I knew

[Anonymous No.15216165]

>>15216103
Some Simpsons and Futurama writers were physicists

[Anonymous No.15216176]

Glass earth

[Anonymous No.15216180]

>>15216176
and then what

[Anonymous No.15216181]

>>15216180
break the glass

[Anonymous No.15216189]

>>15216163
Ahh, damn it, this is gonna dox my full name and that I'm 17 but here we go. here's one of my longer films: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRhhMq_1GZo&ab_channel=AnthemStudios
It's kind of crap compared to the second one i'm currently working on, but ya gotta start somewhere. Second ones gonna have higher resolution and 3D backgrounds.

K sorry for going off-topic, back to spaceflight

[Anonymous No.15216193]

>>15216189
Don't post that shit on 4chan underage b&

Kids these days christ

[Anonymous No.15216194]

>>15216189
Well this is a really easy way for us to see your progress when you come back in a year.

[Anonymous No.15216197]

>>15216189
>1.3M vid
Wow didn't know we had celebrities here

[Anonymous No.15216199]

>>15216189
Anon you’re going to want to delete this before someone actually malicious sees it. Luckily this thread is at least discrete

[Anonymous No.15216204]

>>15215921
>Was renaming Pluto to be a not-planet part of the overall plot against the White Race, or a genuine scientific discovery?
What

[Anonymous No.15216205]

>>15215426
>mass reply

[Anonymous No.15216206]

>>15216205
>soijack

[Anonymous No.15216212]

>>15216204
I'll ask the questions.

[Anonymous No.15216213]

>>15216205
Literally the lowest quality meme possible. It’s not even the right size.

Has the schizo at last returned to us?

[Anonymous No.15216216]

>>15216189
that was quite entertaining, maybe in the future you could animate something spaceflight related, basically merging your two passions

[Anonymous No.15216222]

AAAAA ITS SO FRUSTRATING

[Anonymous No.15216225]

>>15216222
Eternally two weeks away, it's like we're stuck in hell.

[Anonymous No.15216226]

>>15216216
Yep, my next project is 100% gonna be spaceflight related.

[Anonymous No.15216227]

>>15216216
NTA but I've always been so fucking envious of this video. I wish I had the time and resources to make something like this
https://youtu.be/E9GRYa_3gno

[Anonymous No.15216233]

>>15216225
I should just get deep into some vidya for a few weeks and check back next month its like staring at the clock waiting for the bell to ring it just makes every second feel longer and longer

[Anonymous No.15216255]

>>15216227
Oh I already knew that video. It's so fucking awesome. It looks like some anime from the 90s. I'm not really a fan of Star Wars, but I do love it when animators draw complex shit like machines, ships, weapons, structures, and similar objects in such a high level of detail. The frames itself are a work of art. Great examples of this are Akira or Evangelion.

[Anonymous No.15216260]

>>15216255

[Anonymous No.15216269]

>>15216255
Yup I get exactly what you’re saying. I’m not a huge star wars fan either but it’s cool seeing someone passionate make a project like this, and a really cool one nonetheless. And I don’t watch a tom of anime but I love that 80s/90s feel, especially with high fidelity drawings of analog tech and computer screens

[Anonymous No.15216270]

So if you put a giant yingyang in space it starts rotating on its own because of suns pressure

[Anonymous No.15216293]

>>15216270
yeah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crookes_radiometer

[Anonymous No.15216318]

>>15216270
Really makes u think

[Anonymous No.15216361]

>>15216189
fuck off to >>>/co/om

[Anonymous No.15216370]

>>15216124
>a couple of guys
Bro the Simpsons has been outsourced to South Korea since it first aired

[Anonymous No.15216386]

Mars Odyssey began mapping the red planet on this day 21 years ago, and it’s still going strong. Can you believe that? Resilient little guy

[Anonymous No.15216392]

It’s amazing just how many modern rockets use the shuttle-era “Core + Sustainer” architecture. If the shuttle never flew, would Ariane 5, H-II, even Energia, have happened?

[Anonymous No.15216393]

>>15216386
Also john glenn orbited the earth, marking the first american orbit, 61 years ago.

[Anonymous No.15216398]

>>15216392
Mmmmm it’s hard to say. Energia is a definite no

[Anonymous No.15216414]

>>15216213
True, you got me there

[Anonymous No.15216416]

>>15216392
Off the top of my head,
>Ariane 5/6
>Delta IV
>Energia
>Zenit
>Soyuz-5 (future)
>H-II/A/B and H3
>Long March 5
>Vega (possible, Ariane booster-derived)
>Epsilon (possible, H-IIA booster-derived)
And of course, SLS

All are inspired by, or derived from vehicles inspired by, the shuttle design philosophy.

[Anonymous No.15216418]

>>15216416
Okay but devil’s advocate: is shuttle just an early/famous example of something that would have been common anyways

[Anonymous No.15216427]

>>15216293
So you put magnets in the middle to get electricity and live on the edge from spin gravity
>inb4 there's nothing to hold magnet with
Exercise left to the reader

[Anonymous No.15216439]

>>15216418
Good point.
USSR tentatively had super-heavy lift launcher plans after the N1, called Vulkan. Vulkan would’ve been pretty much Soyuz-5 of today.
No idea about Japan. They were good with flying copies of Delta rockets, so maybe we would’ve seen some Delta III esque vehicle
ArianeSpace built Ariane 5 because of Hermes. Hermes was so fat because it was a spaceplane. Maybe if they made a capsule, they could’ve kept flying Ariane 4?

[Anonymous No.15216446]

The second OLM shield has gone up

[Anonymous No.15216498]

>>15216103
>I wonder why they didn't just draw the Space Shuttle.
Supposedly the reason was just "cause I can lmao"

https://jalopnik.com/the-mystery-of-the-space-shuttle-in-that-simpsons-episo-1797280453

[Anonymous No.15216597]

>>15216446
Seems like they are months away from finishing the deluge system

[Anonymous No.15216620]

>>15216597
0.46 months (1.99880952 weeks)

[Anonymous No.15216623]

>>15216620
no thats less than a month you retard

[Anonymous No.15216634]

The deluge isn't needed for OFT, retards.

I mentioned this in another thread, but there is no requirement in their flight profile that would need them to blast off the stand at 100% power. The 33 engines, fully fueled, fully loaded, only need to be brought up to somewhere around 72%. During that time frame, the pad is only exposed for a handful of seconds, and only they have gotten off the pad they can dictate when they should increase the throttle to 100%.

The 50% throttle was clearly a test if the not-cement would explode. It didn't. So they should be able to get away with a bit more power.

[Anonymous No.15216635]

>>15216392
Ariane 5, almost certainly not
it was initially just Ariane 4 with Centaur-like big hydrolox upper stage
Ariane 6 in that scenario would probably be that H60 stage with new lower stage (probably kerolox, probably end up using (ex-)Soviet engine like Atlas III and V)

Soviets had so many excellent engines to pick from it's ridiculous and I don't think they would go with hydrolox first stage on their own
the fact Russians instantly abandoned hydrogen speaks for itself

H-II is harder to say
I imagine they would license whatever Americans would have been using instead of Shuttle.

[Anonymous No.15216637]

>>15216634
elon already confirmed 90% on launch. they literally cant static fire at more than 50% without a deluge

[Anonymous No.15216649]

>>15216069
That's what the Dyson dot at L1 is for

[Anonymous No.15216657]

>>15216637
Source: your ass

[Anonymous No.15216658]

>>15216657
Source: my eyes

[Anonymous No.15216661]

>>15216649
>700,000km squared

What the fuck was the guy who made this graphic smoking?

[Anonymous No.15216667]

>>15216658
CSI literally did the math before the SF ever happened. The material they used can handle the full stack, and the SF @ 50% proved that since the water would have boiled off and caused an explosion even at 50% if it was an actual concern with this new ground material. It didn't happen well beyond a temp when water boils, so it won't happen at an even higher temp because water doesn't arbitrarily change it's boiling point when pressure remains static, idiot.

[Anonymous No.15216700]

>>15216661
Cost-plus contracting.

[Anonymous No.15216719]

>>15216700
Heh

[Anonymous No.15216734]

>>15216718


>>15216718


>>15216718

[Anonymous No.15217133]

>>15216667
That dude is the biggest bullshitter I've ever seen. only around 10% of his "predictions" are ever proved right. the rest go unchecked