/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15211695]

Have you geeks debunked this yet or are you still wasting everyone's time?

[Anonymous No.15211712]

>>15211695
Why would monkeys not be here? They're highly evolved. I don't get your premise.

[Anonymous No.15211718]

Why would they change? Evolution doesn't have a set goal it's aiming towards. Once an animal finds its niche it stays there.

[Anonymous No.15211721]

If you want to make the "Why is X still here?" argument against evolution, you should pick an animal that is actually ancient and out of time, like the horseshoe crab. In the grand scheme of animal life, monkeys are basically brand new. There's no reason to think they'd be gone already.

[Anonymous No.15211725]

>>15211712
So we evolved from monkey but monkeys still exist? Evolutsioon just leaves its previous stage behind like shedding skin? This is such a retarded theory

[Anonymous No.15211728]

>>15211725
modern monkeys and modern men both evolved from ancient primates.

[Anonymous No.15211735]

>>15211725
The last common ancestor of humans and apes was around 10-20 million years ago. That population then split and one branch became humans while the other remained as apes.

[Anonymous No.15211748]

>>15211735
Both "remained as apes". In reality they each became different kinds of apes than they were before.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves. Animals don't just go extinct simply "because". Why do you think the monkeys should be dead? What do you think should have killed them off? Humans? We probably could, but have chosen not to. What else then?

[Anonymous No.15211758]

>>15211735
Ah yes the classic "it happened 105235262 gorillion years ago" so it must be true, just like the big bang. Saying an implausible thing happened ages ago, doesn't add credibility to it.
What kind of a living being as ever "branched" into something so completely different as Humans and monkeys and yet it also exists in its original form of a monkey still?

[Anonymous No.15211774]

>>15211758
Unicellular life, vs everything else. Lichen and moss, vs every other more sophisticated plant. Fish vs all four-limbed land animals.

Old things don't go extinct just because new things come along. Things only go extinct if something makes them go extinct. So, why do you think monkeys should be extinct? What would have killed them?

[Anonymous No.15211776]

>>15211758
> Saying an implausible thing happened ages ago, doesn't add credibility to it.
Having physical evidence does which you conveniently ignore / forget to mention.

[Anonymous No.15211807]

>>15211774
I'm not saying that. I'm saying monkeys are monkeys. You people are saying they should have digivolved into human beings, yet they remain.

>>15211776
"physical evidence" locked inside museums, "dug out" by some people somewhere with impessive degrees they supposedly have. Yeah, that's not easy to fake at all

[Anonymous No.15211809]

>>15211807
> it's all a conspiracy!!!

[Anonymous No.15211813]

>>15211809
>using "conspiracy" in a disparaging manner
Your likes don't belong on this website, normaldrone. Go back to the corporate-controlled platform you crawled here from.

[Anonymous No.15211817]

>>15211807
> Yeah, that's not easy to fake at all
> Saying an implausible thing happened doesn't add credibility to it.
oh the irony

[Anonymous No.15211822]

>>15211758
Probability is relative, a human getting hit twice by lightning is miraculous, but if you lived for millions of years it would become normal, like somone getting hit by a car etc.., I.e. your subjective sense of probability isnt usefull when considering events that took place on time scales beyond your comprehension.

[Anonymous No.15211824]

>>15211735
I thought it was more like 5-6 million years.

[Anonymous No.15211825]

Monkeys will soon go extinct thanks to climate change.

[Anonymous No.15211831]

>>15211824
Last I read the error bars are huge since the evidence is based upon one or two fragmented fossils. The only consensus seems to be no earlier that 3m and no later than 25m

[Anonymous No.15211841]

>>15211817
kek editing my post to change the point it was conveying just to dunk on me in your own mind. Is this the standard of /sci/entists on here or is that just modern day Science™

[Anonymous No.15211888]

>>15211725
Get better bait

[Anonymous No.15211899]

>>15211841
You lost, stay mad.

[Anonymous No.15211905]

>>15211888
Trips of truth

[Anonymous No.15211908]

>>15211888
>I can't argue this so I'll call it bait
Getting our 9th booster shot today, are we?

[Anonymous No.15211916]

>>15211908
>I can't argue
I can and it’s as simple as saying we didn’t evolve from monkeys the way you think

[Anonymous No.15211925]

>>15211916
You're saying a lot of words just to present the pathetic "you're wrong" argument that brainlets use

[Anonymous No.15211936]

>>15211925
Just because they are words you either don't understand or refuse to accept does not make them wrong. But then it is totally your right to stay wilfully ignorant.

[Anonymous No.15211939]

>>15211925
Well if you want me to spell it out then sure. If people evolved from a now extinct primate in Africa, why would you think the existence of an entirely different species of monkey that is still alive in South America has any relevance?

[Anonymous No.15211951]

>>15211939
He's very inbred, so he doesn't understand how your grandfather could be different from your cousin.

[Anonymous No.15211960]

>>15211939
So that primate digievolved to humans but at the same time it went extinct?
A. That's convenient for your theory
B. How can something evolve into something else but stay existing at the same time?

For your evolution theory to be true, there would be no monkeys in existence because they'd evolved into different humans by now.

[Anonymous No.15211963]

>>15211695
For the same reason that fish and amphibeans still exist just because a population diverge for another it doesnt mean said population has to disappear specially when you considerate that humans were not on the same niche that monkeys

[Anonymous No.15211971]

>>15211960
> there would be no monkeys in existence because they'd evolved into different humans by now.
Evolution isn't a character creator trying to select for "human". See >>15211718

You can have two physically separated groups of the same animal but because one is under evolutionary pressure (different climate, lack of food, predators etc) they will change while the other remains static.

[Anonymous No.15211995]

>>15211963
I don't care what fish and frogs do, they're not as complex as humans. If you're basing your theory off of what a cod does, you might as well start claiming we should have wings because birds fly

>>15211971
You know there's a reason why there are no elephants in Europe? They stay in Africa. Why would the same monkey both stay in africa and go to Europe as well and somehow he becomes a superape when in colder weather lmao. I can see why you're so into Marvel movies, redditor, you think it's based on Science™ and you'll develop powers of your own one day

[Anonymous No.15212000]

>>15211995
>why there are no elephants in Europe?
Ever heard of mammoths?

[Anonymous No.15212009]

>>15212000
Man moths?

[Anonymous No.15212020]

>>15211995
>Why would the same monkey both stay in africa and go to Europe as well and somehow he becomes a superape when in colder weather lmao
Who said it was the same monkey? And who said humans evolved in Europe?

[Anonymous No.15212026]

>>15211960
>So that primate digievolved to humans but at the same time it went extinct?
No
>How can something evolve into something else but stay existing at the same time?
It doesn’t still exist. Our non human ancestors are extinct
>For your evolution theory to be true, there would be no monkeys in existence because they'd evolved into different humans by now
Either bait or retardation

[Anonymous No.15212033]

>>15212009
Infinity sorts it out

[Anonymous No.15212103]

>>15211995
All mamals reptiles and birds come from ammphibeans that stop being dependent of water to breed yet amphibeans still exist

[Anonymous No.15212119]

>>15212103
Okay, what's next? Frogs actually come from apple seeds and apple seeds come from atom particles? Focus on one lie at a time

[Anonymous No.15212143]

>>15212119
No lies here buddy just the history of life on earth
Btw are you just trolling or you are some very religious person? What is your branch of faith friend?

[Anonymous No.15212165]

>>15211960
>So that primate digievolved to humans but at the same time it went extinct?
So you come from your great great grandfather but at the same time he's dead? How can this be???

[Anonymous No.15212171]

>>15212119
>Frogs actually come from apple seeds
No, they just share a common ancestor.

>apple seeds come from atom particles?
Yes.

[Anonymous No.15212179]

>>15212143
I'm 90% sure he's trolling.

[Anonymous No.15212208]

>>15211960
You're either misunderstanding or intentionally misrepresenting the claim that is being made.
I drew up a diagram to help illustrate.
You can think of evolution as being analogous to a family tree.
The "monkey" we evolved from is not the same species as the monkeys that exist today, just like your cousin is not the same as your grandparents.
Hope this helps.

[Anonymous No.15212215]

>>15212165
My great great grandfather was a human being, not a monkey. Also I didn't digievolve from my grandfather and he immediately became non-existence when my great grandfather was born and suddenly he had superhuman strength and could read minds.

[Anonymous No.15212230]

>>15211758
Dog breeds

[Anonymous No.15212236]

>>15212215
>My great great grandfather was a human being, not a monkey.
And? How can you come from him yet he's dead at the same time? That doesn't make sense.

You have to be either the dumbest retard on this board or a troll. Please explain which.

[Anonymous No.15212243]

>>15212236
You're confusing "evolution" and lineage, mr smart /sci/entist

[Anonymous No.15212287]

>>15212243
You forgot to mention that they are trying to say that we are all geodudes who digievolved from rocks.

[Anonymous No.15212299]

>>15212243
>>15212287
I'm not confusing anything. How we came from some ancestor that no longer exists is simply a question of lineage. You can't answer the question because you know if you do, the same answer would apply to the original question.

[Anonymous No.15212302]

>>15212287
>pic related

[Anonymous No.15212325]

>>15212299
You are so thick, Your argument is that parents die eventually and leave offspring behind thus 900 gorillion years ago monkeys decided to stand up right and build houses one day. fucking kek, delete your browser please

[Anonymous No.15212334]

>>15212299
If evolution exists then then what made the black man have a superior cock to us white men if not god?

[Anonymous No.15212339]

>>15211888
Checked

[Anonymous No.15212386]

>>15212325
That's not my argument at all. I'm simply explaining to you how lineage works. Since you repeatedly deflect and refuse to answer the question I'll just conclude that you understaffed your own argument is retarded and you're just telling at this point. Thanks

[Anonymous No.15212412]

>>15212386
Give me another 200 000 years and I will evolve into a mindreader so I can come back and read your fucking mind for your point because clearly you had no point in your previous posts.

[Aether king of sci No.15212424]

Monkeys began to stand impulsively cause it was semi pleasurable and quick. They eventually set in this pose in special move. Evolutionary, this move created all the humanity of a particular ape species.

[Anonymous No.15213906]

>>15212412
Another 200,000 years and you might not be retarded

[Anonymous No.15213909]

>>15211725
Some Europeans left Europe to settle America. Just because America now exists doesn't mean Europe has to be destroyed. Do you understand now, brainlet-kun?

[Anonymous No.15216140]

Everyone knows macroevolution hasn't been proven. The only thing that actually holds up is intelligent design

[Anonymous No.15216143]

>>15211725
Why do we even allow posts like this?

[Anonymous No.15216146]

As a Christian pragmatist, I think this should be discussed in a forum capable of handling its content; a forum such as /lit/ or /his/ would do nicely.

[Anonymous No.15216153]

>>15216143
so that I can shill for something like "shedding junk-DNA salting individual mutation bio-stepping theory"
>Darwin 2.0
AND BLAME THE WHOLE THING ON JOHN DEWEY
WHY OH WHY DOES JESUS FEEL SO GOOD
>WHY
GOD
>WHY
?!?!

[Anonymous No.15216154]

>>15211725
>So we evolved from blacks but blacks still exist? Evolutsioon just leaves its previous stage behind like shedding skin? This is such a retarded theory

Read it now and think about it. Whites evolved from African blacks, and wound up building modern civilzation, while African blacks still live in huts for the most part. Things evolve.

[Anonymous No.15216168]

>>15216143
and so I can shill for meta-evolutionary tech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdNFRncAAw0

[Anonymous No.15216175]

>>15216154
I suspect that "Redis shedding evolution" or "evolutionary stage saltation data compression evolution" or "statistical evolution" could be a skeleton theory to hang some meat on.

[Anonymous No.15216502]

>>15211748
>Why do you think the monkeys should be dead?
dear fellow autist, hear me out: he doesn't. he pretends to be retarded by regurgitating creationist talking points by people who thought 'monkey' is a single species. stop replying to trolls.

[Anonymous No.15217030]

>>15211695
Why do cars still exist, even though helicopters exist?

[Anonymous No.15218290]

>>15211695
Because God Wills it. Same as humanity.