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>boeing is in talks with spacex to launch starliner on falcon 9
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1626623142188777474

OH NO NO NO

previous >>15205019

>> No.15209896

spess

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>> No.15209916

hilarious that the US likely shot down three amateur balloons, including one from the Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade. Here we've been complaining about Starlink polluting the skies, and it has already been polluted by amateur balloonists!

>> No.15209922 [DELETED] 

>>15209916
the real news is that small ass balloons are that useful and that they are illegal in california

>> No.15209925

>>15209891
she was fuckable few months ago... what happened?

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This is the only /sfg/ balloon we should talk about.

>> No.15209928

>>15209926
there's a bigger one out there

>> No.15209930

>>15209925
Spite makes her age fast

>> No.15209931
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Broke: Soyuz-style Orbital and Reentry module
Woke: MOL-style hatch in the heat shield
Bespoke: JAXA's rotating reentry module.

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>>15209928
True.

>> No.15209934

>>15209916
The balloon news was literally just to distract from more important shit

>> No.15209936

>>15209931
Galaxybrain: HL20/HL42 scale spaceplane with a rear hatch and onboard propulsion capable of LAS duties.

>> No.15209960

>>15209891
I have been right where she is standing

>> No.15209968

>Future large scale all sky survey telescopes like the LSST, xuntian and Wfirst that will find 99% of all near earth asteroids larger than 100 meters.
>Data from DART and supercomputing A.I models that will allow us to better predict collision avoidance strategies
>Starship and other starship clones that can get thousands of tons into escape velocity within a short order

Anyone else think that we basically won't have to worry about any risks of asteroid/comet impact from 2035 onwards?

>> No.15209978

https://twitter.com/clearusui/status/1626447410422747136
Clear's rocket detective skills made her blow up on twitter

>> No.15209989

>>15209931
Stoke: tilted aerospike. actively-cooled reentry heat shield

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>>15209931
>MOL-style hatch in the heat shield
>not VA-style
people forgot it ever existed for some reason, even Soviets themselves, apparently
TKS was a lot like Soviet MOL now when I think about it

>> No.15209994

Starlink stream (...soon):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JILQ2qe-cjI

>> No.15209995

>>15209978
JAXA should fly Clear to space.

>> No.15210000

>>15209994
live

>> No.15210001

Los Dos reporting that STARSHIP OFT1 has been moved up to NET March 8. Originally NET March 13. T

>> No.15210002

>>15209990
Yeah I know but for American communities like /sfg/ know MOL better do I used it

A bit sad TKS’s legacy ends With Nauka in less than a decade

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>> No.15210010

>No fog

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>> No.15210018

This commentator is one of the better ones. No rambling, quick simple comments.

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>>15210002
>communities like /sfg/ know MOL better
yeah that's the thing
unlike MOL, TKS actually flew - several times
not only that, VA was the first reused spacecraft ever
and FGB was basis for majority of Soviet/Russian station modules

>> No.15210027

Elon can't keep getting away with it

>> No.15210028

https://youtu.be/S00tW4RFYQs

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>This is fine

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>>15209990
m8

>> No.15210033

>>15210030
went bankrupt
never launched

>> No.15210034

>>15210033
many such cases

>> No.15210035

KSP 2 next week

Return of /kspg/ ?

>> No.15210040

>>15209978
>>15209995
Is there room for one more on Dear Moon?

>> No.15210041

>>15210035
lolno
it'll probably be ass and anyway it's going to be in early access for years

>> No.15210043

>>15210040
They can remove the basedman

>> No.15210044

>>15210041
So just like the first KSP.

>> No.15210045

>>15210040
clear deserves better than being part of that fucking clownshow

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>>15210029
They've gotten rather cunty in the last couple of years. If commercial space flight keeps expanding, and it will, there will come a time when there needs to be a split of the FAA's responsibilities like happened with part of the USAF splitting off into the USSF, even if they're both under the umbrella of the Department of the Air Force. Keep the propeller guys out of the loop when it comes to space issues and only coordinate on launch corridors.

>> No.15210050

>>15210044
yeah except it's not the first KSP but a sequel to it.

>> No.15210053

>>15210046
We also need permanent exclusion zones around launch corridors.

>> No.15210057

Starship is frosty

>> No.15210058

>>15210057
B7 rather, seems they did a spin prime just now.

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>>15210030
*bloody mosquito noises*

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>>15210070
god I love having disposable income

>> No.15210079

>>15210070
It will look worse and run worse than modded KSP 1, their "devs" are a complete joke

>> No.15210084

>>15210070
I'm a bit behind on the GPU specs, but everything else will be just fine. Also, I've never seen minimum and recommended storage space be different.

>> No.15210085

>>15210084
More locally cached textures and models?

>> No.15210088

>>15210019
Is this an ideal way to store cubes?

>> No.15210091

>>15210070
wtf is this
How the fuck

>> No.15210100

>>15210070
My PC can barely run it. What the fuck were they doing for those years?

>> No.15210103

>>15210070
>Low CPU requirements
>High GPU requirements
Oh no no no

>> No.15210104

>>15209934
I'm still trying to figure out what it was a smokescreen for but my schizo powers have weakened; any theories?

>> No.15210107

>>15210104
For the actual smokescreen in Ohio

>> No.15210116

>>15210070
>physics sim game
>GPU limited
kek

>> No.15210119

>>15210070
I wonder if they're shifting their physics onto GPU via ROCM/CUDA or just OpenCL

>> No.15210120

>>15210104
>>15210107
Or Nordstream.

>> No.15210121

>>15210104
Ohio mass poisoning.

>> No.15210125

>>15210120
That's true. The expose proving that the US blew up Nordstream came out just before.

>> No.15210126

>>15210119
Let's be real they're just not going to optimize it at all.

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>>15210107
>>15210121
Nothing happened in Ohio and anyone who says different is a vatnik demoraliser

>> No.15210129

>>15210126
lol

>> No.15210131

https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/02/the-bird-flu-outbreak-has-taken-an-ominous-turn/

bird flu apocalypse is coming. this is way worse than covid. covid had a 1-5% fatality rate. bird flu has a 77% fatality rate. time is up we need to get to mars now.

>> No.15210132

The balloons were a smokescreen for the Starship Heavy Booster RUD

>> No.15210136

>>15210131
This is just a part of their Great Reset agenda.

>> No.15210137

>>15210070
do you think that 4GB is close enough to 12GB to work?

>> No.15210138

Clear watching SpaceX Fails

https://youtu.be/S00tW4RFYQs

>> No.15210141

>>15210131
We don't screen people for bird flu. Only if it gets bad enough to require hospitalization and your job puts you in proximity of them would you get tested.

>> No.15210144

>>15210070
any chance I'll be able to run it with the intel integrated gpu?

>> No.15210151

>>15210120
I like to follow this stuff and I just now hear about this new expose. So it seems like the smokescreen worked.

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>>15210120
Nordstream was based though. I have not been this patriotic in a long time

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>>15209891
Thoughts?

>> No.15210165

>>15210144
ksp 1 actually ran with 2012 intel integrated gpu, they should have aimed for the same for ksp 2 if they wanted it to be accessible

>> No.15210170

>>15210164
New Glenn but based

>> No.15210173

>>15210070
lol it really will be another bannerlord situation

>> No.15210174

>>15210151
Then you should also read the criticism because the thing reads like someone used GPT to fill it out.
https://oalexanderdk.substack.com/p/blowing-holes-in-seymour-hershs-pipe?utm_campaign=post

>> No.15210175

>>15209990
TKS is, through the FGB , the most used crewed spacecraft right?

>> No.15210176

https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1626669319294971905

B7 did a spin prime test just now. Possibly to test out the failing engine?

>> No.15210182

>>15210176
Interesting that one of the engines which had issues was not spin primed. SpaceX didn’t replace either, either

>> No.15210189

>>15209931
>not relying on propulsion to de-orbit such that no heat shield or cooling whatsoever is required

>> No.15210200

>>15210164
If Starship works then it's pointless. If Starship doesn't work then it's what they should have done.

>> No.15210201

LEO TOURISM

>> No.15210204

>>15210200
Engines aside, Starship is probably cheaper. 7 meter aluminum tanks are expensive e

>> No.15210217

>>15210204
>>Engines aside, Starship is probably cheaper.
You're not throwing away the upper stage either.

>> No.15210226

>>15210217
The reason why Neutron is doomed in a nutshell. They're doing at high cost what SpaceX does cheap.

>> No.15210229

>>15210226
Neutron will at least be throwing away LESS than anybody else if you don't count SpaceX, so it will survive on contracts that require 2+ sources, and people who hate Elon's guts.

>> No.15210231

>>15210226
When SpaceX switched away from carbon fiber because of the high cost and difficulty to reuse, everyone agreed that it was the right choice. Then when Neutron was revealed, everyone shilled Neutron and carbon fiber over stainless

>> No.15210232

>>15210128
So far all I see is
>it's stinky!
>oh no oily water
>muh chiken died
like faggot, if the chickens died from breathing the same air as you, you'd be dead too.

>> No.15210234

>>15210229
They're competing with Ariane 5, Vulcan, and H3 for second place. This is a bad place to be.
>>15210231
It was pretty damn funny to watch the NPCs switch gears, ngl

>> No.15210242

>>15210231
You can either mass-autism your tanks and dry mass (Neutron, Falcon, Shuttle, etc.) or thrust-autism your engines (Starship, Saturn V). It's very clear which one works better at large scale but you HAVE to start small with lightweight tanks to build expertise as an institution.

>> No.15210244

>>15209978
She is my smart beautiful girl

>> No.15210248

>>15210232
>if the chickens died from breathing the same air as you, you'd be dead too.
Are you aware of the origin of the phrases "canary in a coal mine"?

>> No.15210249

>>15210244
It's a man

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>>15210070
What the fuck lmao

>> No.15210267

SOMEBODY ONCE ASKED COULD I SPARE REACTION MASS
I NEED TO DELTA-V AWAY FROM THIS PLACE
I SAID YEP
WHAT A CONCEPT
I COULD USE A LITTLE FUEL MYSELF
AND WE COULD ALL USE A LITTLE PLANAR CHANGE

WELL
THE ROGGS START FALLIN' AND THEY DON'T STOP FALLIN'
HEAD TO THE PAD AND I HIT THE LAUNCH BUTTON
THE FAA MEN BEG TO DIFFER
JUDGING BY THE SEETHE THEY ARE POSTING ON TWITTER

THE LAUNCH WINDOW IS GETTING PRETTY THIN
THE LOX IS GETTING WARM SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL VENT
MY ENGINES FIRE, HOW 'BOUT YOURS?
THAT'S THE WAY I LIKE IT SO I'LL NEVER GET BORED

>> No.15210278

>>15210131
Potential mammal-to-mammal mutation in Peru as well, not looking good

>> No.15210279

>>15210244
This man is lying
She is my smart cute wife

>> No.15210288

>>15210070
I beat all recommended spec except gpu. didnt realize a 3080 was 20% faster than a 2080ti. ridiculous that they'd recommend a $1k gpu for an early access kiddy game. only way that tracks is if they are doing physics on the gpu. hope it doesnt stutter to fuck like MS flight sim

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>Falcon 9 v1.1 payload to LEO
13 tons
>Falcon 9 Full Thrust payload to LEO
23 tons

Fucking how?

>> No.15210295

>>15210288
>doing physics on the gpu
is that even a thing?

>> No.15210296

>>15210248
yeah, the miners would die too if they stuck around. but they didnt cuz they exited the mine. ppl out here acting like east palestine ohio was some environmental paradise before this. it's basically a 3rd world country, and that's a fact Jack. i wont be convinced that the air is the cause of 3 dead chickens unless the town population actually starts dying, and fast

>> No.15210300

>>15210295
Matrices and sheit bruh

>> No.15210302

>>15210131
It's literally just the flu

>> No.15210308

>>15210296
where in the US can one find cleaner air?

>> No.15210309

>>15210174
And then read criticism of the criticism, though anyone with knowledge of logical fallacies wouldn't even need to bother.

>> No.15210310

>>15210279
>>15210249
No she's fucking not

>> No.15210313

>>15210085
It doesn't seem like they're gonna pull a MS Flight Simulator, where you need a beefy internet connection to stream the data in.

>>15210165
Reminder that KSP 1 was built by/for thirdie Mexicans, with potato computers. It ran (comparatively) well on shity hardware because that's what the devs had.

>> No.15210315

>>15210296
None of the populous around chernobyl died immediately either. But they did die later or have cancer

>> No.15210322

>>15210308
probably northeast
>>15210315
They live in rural Ohio, their life expectancy is only 60 years without muh toxic chemicals

>> No.15210323

>>15210128
>everyone I don't like is Putin
I guess Hitler just fell out of fashion

>> No.15210326

>>15210294
Imagine if they improved Starship by this much between iterations

>> No.15210329

>another spacex hit piece on ars
cmon berger leave the site already

>> No.15210332

>>15210176
>B7 did a spin prime test just now
b7 out there doing tests but nobody cares because they do a spin prime every week

>> No.15210353

>>15210174
your article makes good points. How come a reputable journalist such as Hersch publishes such junk?

>> No.15210355

>>15210322
what about northwest, Seattle?

>> No.15210356

>>15210355
The northwest catches fire every summer, which means a sky full of smoke.

>> No.15210357

mars has clean air

>> No.15210359

>>15210353
He’s been publishing junk for the last 10-20 years. This new article was the worst though, it’s so fucking editorialised. No serious journalist would write such a silly fanfic of such a serious accusation. He himself characterises it as his version of what could have happened based on what his source told him.
A single anonymous source simply isn’t even remotely enough for this kind of story

>> No.15210360

>>15210357
Imagine the smell

>> No.15210362

>>15210329
Archive?

>> No.15210367

>>15210362
>>15210329
Not really a hit piece, SpaceX just got fined $175K for not filling out the correct paperwork for a Starlink launch

>> No.15210370

>>15210367
>ukraine says starlink isnt a problem: we sleep
>spacex got a small fine: REAL SHIT

>> No.15210377

>>15210359
yeah people get like that when they're older

>> No.15210380

>>15210367
when will they get fined for the gate catastrophe?

>> No.15210389

>>15210309
I think it’s very telling what that comment deboonks and what it doesn’t address kek
>yeah it’s nonsense but the intelligence industry is dumb mkay
But more telling is that he later goes on to say that it’s all bullshit because these are the same people who claim Russia shot down MH17. Obviously just some butthurt slav

>> No.15210390

im still waiting for the blackhole article from ars wtf its one of the biggest science stories of the decade, even bigger than entangled blackholes being wormholes

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>>15209936
Universebrain:

>> No.15210403

>>15210390
What are you talking about

>> No.15210405

>>15210326
Imagine one day Starship will be able yo lift 350 tons to orbit expendable

The payload capability is getting so intense that I'm thinking the 18m variant will be needed. Weight is no longer the issue but size. For a giant space telescope ideally you want a giant fairing

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>>15210390
explain

>> No.15210436

>>15210390
Been looking into that whole charade for the last two weeks. Allow me to burst your bubble
https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=6871

>> No.15210443

>>15210403
>>15210408
the blackhole news? blackholes are the source of dark energy which is causing the accelerating expansion of the universe.
https://www.ralspace.stfc.ac.uk/Pages/first-evidence-black-holes-source-of-dark-energy.aspx
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/2041-8213/acb704

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space game bros ... we lost

>> No.15210453

>>15210443
I
FUCKING
LOVE
SCIENCE!

>> No.15210464

>>15210450
yeah we know

>> No.15210472

>>15210443
Will be cool if it can be confirmed. Time for me to jump down the rabbit hole and sort the wheat from the chaff

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>> No.15210480

>>15210070
>Seven (7) year old Athlon CPU
>RTX card
wtf???

>> No.15210485

>>15210443
Doesnt this imply supermassive black holes will never evaporate?

>> No.15210489

>>15210485
not sure. i think that might a question that is left unanswered.

>> No.15210492

>>15210489
it also seems to imply that the visible universe will eventually be completely consumed within a black hole, right? because black holes would just grow indefinitely

>> No.15210497

>>15210480
Maybe it's based on maxed out graphics settings. Otherwise it makes zero sense since KSP should be a cpu intensive game.

>> No.15210504

>>15210497
They've explained that Minimum is Low@1080p and Recommanded is High@1440p

>> No.15210511

>>15210492
no it says the size of blackholes are tied to the size of the universe. if the universe grows then so do the blackholes at a fixed ratio, if it shrinks the so might the blackholes. the only way the blackholes get larger on their own is if they consume matter or other blackholes.

>> No.15210514

>>15210504
>1440p
what is this, 2016? we're in 4k and 8k now.

>> No.15210519

>>15210514
2K144Hz gang forever

>> No.15210521

>>15210514
reminder that my internet can barely do 720p on youtube

>> No.15210524

so is Dark Energy a particle?

>> No.15210526

>>15210514
Yes, I have had no need to upgrade my PC which has still been going strong and perfectly capable of meeting all my needs

>> No.15210529

>>15210492
>because black holes would just grow indefinitely
Their growth is supposedly linked with the expansion of the universe, as is stated within the article.

>> No.15210533

>>15210524
everything's a fucking particle for some reason
I never understood why gravity is expected to have a carrying particle if it's supposed to be magic reality warping shit

>> No.15210535

>>15210533
Physics is a sham science.

>> No.15210536

>>15210529
Yes and the expansion is accelerating, so I would logically assume black hole size increase would accelerate

>> No.15210542

>>15210533
gravitons dont exist in general relativity
>>15210524
most assumed it was not

>> No.15210549

>>15210536
I think the reason would more likely be the creation of new black holes rather than the increase of mass of existing ones.

>> No.15210553

>>15210443
>vacuum energy
>no singularities
>energy is only "dark" because it's outside our reference frame
>gravitational physics coupled to scale of universe
This is compatible with QI.

>> No.15210554

>>15210524
it says its vacuum energy, aka the lowest energy state of space. it's just that blackholes generate tons of it for some reason.

>> No.15210562

>>15210554
shouldn't a vacuum be sucking all the stars back together, not push them apart?

>> No.15210564

>>15210533
Space-time doesn't exist in quantum mechanics and gravitons don't exist in GR

>> No.15210565

>>15210549
hmm...maybe. i need to read the full paper,the article is sparse on details and implications. maybe not mathematically rigorous. does that mean the expansion rate of the universe is an S curve? so the expansion will eventually slow down once there are no new black holes to form. maybe even reverse if the black holes evaporate

>> No.15210567

>>15210562
another question to be answered later afaik

>> No.15210568

>>15210450
>early access game
>about to hit basically open alpha
>has high gpu and ram requirements
Am shocked by your autism

>> No.15210569

>>15210568
Selling your buggy mess for full price means you're open to criticism as if it were a real retail game.

>> No.15210570

>>15210524
No. It's a result of quantum particles not actually being real.
The framework is just an abstraction of a more fundamental process. And some things happen to reveal the underlying dynamics. This is literally the definition of physics.

>> No.15210571

I understand normal physics just fine but this quantum shiet and cosmological shiet is way beyond me

>> No.15210575

>>15210554
Hawking Radiation. Mass-energy inside a black hole can't escape, so the other half of a vacuum energy virtual particle pair that gets emitted as Hawking radiation remains trapped inside the event horizon. Hawking radiation scales with surface area, and galactic core black holes are spheres with a radius measured in light years.

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>>15210568
Not shocked at all, this is exactly what I've been doomposting about

>> No.15210580

>>15210571
That's because quantum niggers intentionally make things overly complicated with models on top models instead of looking for a simpler underlying explanation.

>> No.15210583

>another falcon launch in 4 hours
they can't keep getting away with it

>> No.15210585

>>15210570
There's no real reason besides a century of butt hurt to describe vacuum energy as a probabilistic sea of particle-antiparticle pairs instead of an ether field.

>> No.15210586

>>15210580
yeah fuck 'em. How should I learn the stuff then though

>> No.15210589

>>15210583
PAY THE FINE, ELON

>> No.15210590

>>15210571
The wavefunction is all that there was, is, and ever will be, and it always obeys Shrödinger's equation. And that's all you need know

>> No.15210591
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>>15210450
Bros...

>> No.15210595

>>15210591
HOAX EXPOSED

>> No.15210599

>>15210586
get a textbook, otherwise, viascience does pretty good explanations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCUnoxJ5pho&list=PL193BC0532FE7B02C

just keep in mind that any time anybody talks about "interperetations" it'll be complete bullshit

>> No.15210601

>>15210568
>5 years development
>3 delays
>still in alpha
Boy I'm laughing

>> No.15210606

>>15210443
God dammit dont you fuckin tell me Einstein was right all along. FUCK

>> No.15210608

>>15210591
yeah im not buying this game i'll wait a year

>> No.15210610

>>15210599
thanks

>> No.15210612

ship 24 going to the launch site on sunday

>> No.15210613

>>15210612
What for?

>> No.15210616

>the large hadron collider cost only half as much as JWST
I see some science opportunities

>> No.15210618

>>15210613
S T A C C

>> No.15210621

>>15210618
It's not posible

>> No.15210622

>>15210616
Yeah you should science the r/HECK out of those particles.

>> No.15210624
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>>15210553
Everythings coming up Mikehouse!

>> No.15210629
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>>15210621

>> No.15210632
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>> No.15210638

>>15210632
I AM DIVOOOOOOOOOOOORTING!!!!

>> No.15210639
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15210639

https://spacenews.com/first-crewed-starliner-mission-on-track-for-april/
>Preparations for the first crewed flight of Boeing’s CST-100 Starliner vehicle to the International Space Station remain on schedule for a launch in mid to late April, company and NASA officials said Feb. 17.
>The Crew Flight Test (CFT) mission will send NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams to their deaths on an eight-day mission, launching from Cape Canaveral and crash landing at White Sands, New Mexico. The mission, following a semi-successful uncrewed flight to the ISS last May, is intended to be the final major test of the vehicle before NASA rejects it for use on ISS crew rotation missions.

It's almost time.

>> No.15210640
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15210640

is it possible to make substantial improvements on tunnel boring technology?

>> No.15210644

>>15210640
Yes. But maybe something that doesn't look like a TBM.

>> No.15210647

>>15210640
probably, but boring the tunnel itself isn't really the thing holding tunnel adoption back

>> No.15210649

>>15210644
Any tunnel boring machine will, by definition, look like a Tunnel Boring Machine

>> No.15210650

>>15210647
I thought it was the high cost of tunnels?

>> No.15210653

>>15210649
fagnigger

>> No.15210657

>It was initially surprising to me that the multi-million-dollar tunnel boring machines used to dig e.g. the Chunnel are often considered expendable, and abandoned underground after breaking through

>> No.15210658
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>>15209272
>>15209274
This needs to be called the Muskrat King

>> No.15210660

>>15210658
How do the starships dock?

>> No.15210661

>>15210650
Mostly it's the geology. The places where tunnels help most are solid rock, underwater, or both.

>> No.15210663

>>15210661
You can't dig tunnels through water, idiot.

>> No.15210665

>>15210632
>ywn hang with the boys at the derelict flame trench
Imagine skating on that

>> No.15210668
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15210668

>>15210663
hold my beeah

>> No.15210672

>>15210650
ventilation

>> No.15210677

>>15210665
I'd be too spooked out. What if there's a ghost rocket lurking unseen to blast you with ghost flames?

>> No.15210679

>>15210616
? there are no new particles

>> No.15210683

https://reduxx.info/medical-journal-floats-concept-of-using-braindead-women-as-surrogates-through-whole-body-gestational-donation/

Martians will be grown in Axlotl tanks

>> No.15210685
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wwwww

>> No.15210688

Terran 1 hop wen

>> No.15210695

>>15210683
There can't be enough demand for surrogates to justify such an abhorrent thing.

>> No.15210699

>>15210683
based? cringe? you decide!

>> No.15210701

>>15210695
It's about societal humiliation, not need.

>> No.15210705

Quantum Mechanics works fine, you silly geese

>> No.15210709

>>15210705
So does relativity apparently...even in black holes :(

>> No.15210710

>>15210685
MaxQute

>> No.15210712

>>15210685
>small asian girl sitting on a couch in front of five girthy Falcon 9 rockets

>> No.15210717

>>15210672
They’re building a modest new tunnel network in Sydney and the ventilation towers are unbelievably uge. Just three concrete pillars the size of a mid rise apartment towers

>> No.15210724
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>>15210705
God does not play craps like you do you nigger

>> No.15210728

>>15210717
shitass design then

>> No.15210730

>>15210724
>everything must be purely deterministic
Laplace plz

>> No.15210731

>>15210724
Einstein was a fellow gangsta?

>> No.15210737

>>15210724
>Von Neumann phonograph.png

>> No.15210740

>>15210724
You know Einstein was one of the founding fathers of quantum mechanics, right?

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>>15210724
ER=EPR you dumb nigger nigger nigger

>> No.15210744

>>15210740
…and I know that he disliked the probabilistic interpretation which is now the most widely accepted model of it.

>> No.15210745
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>>15210740
Everyone knows that and that he was never content with 'shit just happens lolrandom' bs

>> No.15210746

>>15210730
>>15210740
Randomness is a philosophical concept.

>> No.15210749

>>15209968
I thought comets kind of "came out of nowhere" due to their elliptical orbits

>> No.15210752

are there any flights or tests taking place anytime soon?
what's going on with falcon9?

>> No.15210753

>>15210744
>>15210745
but the wavefunction isnt random. and wavefunction collapse is way more retarded than the everettian interpretation.

>> No.15210754

>>15210752
>>what's going on with falcon9?
SPEED

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>>15210743
>ER=EPR
>conjecture
nah

>> No.15210766

>>15210753
>measure particle
>measurement alters potential
>restricted potential restricts measuresd observable
What's not to get?

>> No.15210767

>>15210753
>the wavefunction isnt random
please state the wave function.

>> No.15210769

>>15210755
Also testable

>> No.15210770

>>15210767
bra ket
heh

>> No.15210772

>>15210767
the wave function

>> No.15210773

>>15210658
heh, obscure reference! (Though then the starships should all be ass inwards...)

>> No.15210774

>SpaceX has launched 21 rockets since ULA's last launch on Nov. 10 2022
what the fuck

>> No.15210775

>>15210766
>the universe acts different when i look at it
sure it does bud

>> No.15210778
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>>15210752
Falcon 9 might be launching a geostationary comsat in about three hours. The surface weather seems okay but we're currently in the middle of a fairly large geomagnetic storm, so it might get delayed on account of that.

On that note, if any of you live more north than south you might want to take a look out a window tonight if the sky is clear.

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>>15210775
I am literally performing a quantum Zeno effect experiment right now you queer

>> No.15210788

>>15210695
I have no idea why you’d consider it abhorrent. What’s abhorrent is wasting a valuable resource like a human body.

>> No.15210789
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15210789

>Falcon 9 has a higher flight rate than Electron, Rocket, Alpha, and LauncherOne combined
How

>> No.15210792

>>15210789
Starlink.

>> No.15210795

>>15210788
It's degrading and shameful. Like messing with a corpse except she's not quite as dead.

>> No.15210798

>>15210775
By measuring the particle, you change its potential and thus its wavefunction

>> No.15210801

>>15210795
Degrading and shameful to who? Corpses aren’t people; they’re literally lumps of meat that’s beginning to rot, and worthless unless you’re going to harvest the organs for transplants or eat them. Otherwise, might as well throw them in the dumpster.

>> No.15210805

>>15210798
What does it mean to measure a particle?

>> No.15210807

>>15210801
You can act inappropriately towards a person who is already dead.
Planting a baby inside of them for 9 months then cutting it out falls under that.

>> No.15210809

>The cat is both alive and dead until I look at it
Too many Copenseethanists ITT

>> No.15210810

>>15210801
People deserve respect, even if they're dead. If we are nothing to society but a function of our usefulness then that is a horrible world.

>> No.15210812

>>15210789
It gets better. The combined flight rate of the Ariane 6, Vulcan, H3, and GSLV-3 only comes up to about 40 launches per year after their get to their maximum expected cadence. Falcon 9 casually going for a hundred launches is lapping the entire rest of the western world's med-heavy launch capability TWICE.

>> No.15210814

>>15210807
>You can act inappropriately towards a person who is already dead.
How? They’re dead. They no longer exist in our world. The corpse they left behind is not the person, it’s meat.

>> No.15210815

>>15210805
To interact with it to obtain some information. At the quantum level the masses are so small that position or momentum change when you measure the other, because a single photon is enough to shift it.

>> No.15210818

>>15210809
The alternative interpretations to Copenhagen carry implications that don't carry over in reality. Yeah, it's ugly, but reality is under no obligation to be beautiful, and the assumption that physics must be beautiful has made Particle Physicists collectively useless since the 1970s.

>> No.15210821

>>15210815
It's not about fat fingers retard. Go back to school, you're completely out of your element

>> No.15210822

>>15210821
>>>/x/

>> No.15210823

Tiangong really looks comfier than any part of the ISS

>> No.15210824

>>15210695
They seem to be pushing it for fags and Trans, as a sort of inclusion thing. As if using a comatose person in that manner wasn't already questionable.

>> No.15210825

>>15210814
Treating the dead as meat doesn't damage them, but it does damage you.

>> No.15210827

>>15210825
How?

>> No.15210828

>>15210805
ascertain the size, amount, or degree of (something) by using an instrument or device marked in standard units or by comparing it with an object of known size.

>> No.15210829

>>15210815
You've already failed because the Copenhagen interpretation doesn't even define a measurement. It was invented to make classicalists feel better

>> No.15210830

>>15210801
>Degrading and shameful to who?
To the person who's doing it.
>>15210788
Regarding people as resources is a dead-end philosophy.

>> No.15210831

>>15210823
It's still got that new station smell. Give five years and it'll look a lot more broken in.

>> No.15210832

>>15210818
>The alternative interpretations to Copenhagen carry implications that don't carry over in reality
Wrong. None of the interpretations of quantum mechanics make testable predictions, so all of them are equally valid.

>> No.15210833

>>15210829
Look just shut up and calculate, get it?

>> No.15210838

>>15210832
There was some paper that showed that only Copenhagen interpretation actually works in some cases, but I can't remember where it is.

>> No.15210839

>>15210833
Now you get it!

>> No.15210840

>>15210810
>People deserve respect, even if they're dead.
Dead people don’t exist anymore; and a corpse isn’t a person. Besides, it’d be a voluntary thing you sign up for before you die, so why the fuck do you care?

> If we are nothing to society but a function of our usefulness then that is a horrible world.
Seems like a fine world to me.

>> No.15210843

>>15210838
Copenhagen isn't an interpretation at all. It just says
>lmao I dunno
The only one that definitely doesn't work is Bohmian Cope Mechanics.

>> No.15210844

>>15210830
>To the person who's doing it.
How?
>Regarding people as resources is a dead-end philosophy.
Corpses aren’t people. Regardless; viewing and using eachother as resources is the entire reason animals evolve to be social. We are resources. If you don’t like that, it’s your problem.

>> No.15210847

>>15210843
>Copenhagen isn't an interpretation at all. It just says
It says everything is probabilistic at a fundamental level. If you want to say "lmao I dunno" that says more about you than it.

>> No.15210849

>>15210840
They arent dead, theyre alive. that's the sick point

>> No.15210851

>>15210840
>a corpse isn’t a person
No, but it looks like one and was one once. Once you start treating corpses as a resource, you accept that intangible value is something that can be removed from a human being. Then it's a small step to treat the living as a resource, then the Machine will eat us all.
Cope all you like, but if you have have no respect for the dead then you're like some animal, you're finished.

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>>15210833
>shut up and calculate
the physics equivalent of gooning and equally disgusting

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>> No.15210854

>>15210035
Hopefully yeah

>> No.15210856

>>15210661
so the high cost of tunnels

>> No.15210857

>>15210847
>It says everything is probabilistic at a fundamental level
It attaches a completely ad-hoc "collapse" process that exists nowhere in the wave function.

>> No.15210859

>>15210851
>Then it's a small step to treat the living as a resource
HR departments already do.

>> No.15210862

>>15210847
Why cant it just be the wavefunction and schrodingers equation and that's it? everything beyond that adds unnecessary complexity

>> No.15210864

>>15210857
It would be nice to explain how that works, but so far, it is an accurate description of how reality works. I'd be more than happy with something better.

>> No.15210866

>>15210849
A braindead body is only “alive” to the same extent HeLa cells are “alive”, and legally, they are dead. Sure, they’re alive in the raw biochemical sense that there’s ongoing metabolic activity and even mitosis, but there’s no thoughts or feelings in there, and as such, they’re not people any longer nor do they have worth beyond their utility to other humans.

>> No.15210867

>>15210821
>It's not about fat fingers retard.
elaborate for brainlet

>> No.15210868

>>15210866
Just use a test tube you sick fuck

>> No.15210870

>>15210294
Man Falcon 9 1.0 and 1.1 are hardly the same rocket

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>>15210853
I'm trying man. Falcon 9 launch in a few hours? Geomagnetic storm? Cool flight rates? Something's gotta get a nibble eventually.

>> No.15210875

>>15210864
>it is an accurate description
Basically "shut up and calculate"

>> No.15210876

The shape of the thread is...relative

>> No.15210879

>>15210866
>they’re not people any longer
Why are you so interested in even allowing such a step to be permissible? It's a very unusual situation - using a brain dead body as a surrogate.
It seems to me you're more interested in normalizing a process of de-personing, probably for some evil purpose.

>> No.15210881
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15210881

IMAGINE Hermes docking with Tiangong

>> No.15210882

>>15210874
Let's talk about Plasma Magnet
I think Plasma Magnet is pretty cool and doesn't afraid of anything

>> No.15210887

>>15210881
What's Herpes 2.0 called?

>> No.15210891
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>>15210882
NONO NO NO STOP. WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS. IT WONT WORK IN FACT IT WILL NEVER WORK. because of JPL
>inb4 redpill me on JPL
well lets just say they have cornered the market on parker solar heat shields and gravity assists technology. why would you want to ride the solar wind? are you racist anon?

>> No.15210892

>>15210875
>Basically "shut up and calculate"
Until someone manages to find a solution that explains even more of reality than the math does, what else can you do?

>> No.15210893

>>15210892
It needs to be shoehorned into a classical worldview for poor little Einstein to not shit his pants

>> No.15210895

>>15210851
>No, but it looks like one and was one once.
But is not one, and therefore should be treated as not one.
>Once you start treating corpses as a resource, you accept that intangible value is something that can be removed from a human being
……Yeah? Being literally dead seems like a pretty solid reason why someone’s body would lose “intangible value”. Living people are valuable because of their thoughts and minds and emotions, and corpses certainly don’t have those. Besides, whether or not corpses are utilized depends on the wishes of the deceased. Dead bodies are used across the world for organ transplants, tissue transplants, and medical education.

>Then it's a small step to treat the living as a resource
That’s like saying it’s a small step from treating literal rocks as resources to treating humans as resources.

>Cope all you like, but if you have have no respect for the dead then you're like some animal, you're finished.
Damn I guess University professors and doctors are just animals for using cadavers to educate students.

>> No.15210899

>>15210868
That’s probably more mechanically difficult.

>> No.15210901

>>15210879
“De-personed” is a really strange way to say “died”.

>> No.15210910

>>15210640
Only once they do it with a high temperature nuclear reactor

>> No.15210912

>>15210773
Why? The ass is just fuel and engine stuffs.

>> No.15210913

>>15210910
Icebreakers are sometimes nuclear powered

>> No.15210915

>>15210695
They make the perfect wives though

>> No.15210918

>>15210901
Unrelated, but its interesting to see how people develop a newspeak (eg. unalived) in order to bypass filters on Facebook, Youtube etc

>> No.15210928

>>15210895
>Living people are valuable because of their thoughts and minds and emotions
So if they have the wrong thoughts or the wrong feelings they stop having value?
There's a reason why every civilization that ever existed has rituals for handling the dead. Even south pacific islanders who had to practice cannibalism to conserve resources attached meaning to what they did.
Once you look at a person, even a dead one, as a collection of resources, your society has entered a death spiral and will not survive.

>> No.15210930

>>15210874
How many of those surrogates could you fit in a starship launch to Mars to jump start the new colony?

>> No.15210932

>>15210657
They are usually replaced a dozen times over while drilling, ship of Theseus style

>> No.15210934
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15210934

>>15210891
>why would you want to ride the solar wind? are you racist anon?
Yes.

>> No.15210935

>>15210801
>worthless unless you’re going to harvest the organs for transplants or eat them
Sounds like something a chinese would say

>> No.15210937

>>15210724
> Einstein was never wrong
Chud science

>> No.15210938

>>15210913
Those are no where near high enough to melt rock

>> No.15210942

>>15209891
>boeing is in talks with spacex to launch starliner on falcon 9

Well, that's not gonna happen. NG isn't gonna launch for like two more years, at a minimum and there's zero chance that they human rate it under a year, so we are looking at three years minimum for that. Is this Boeing trying to force NASA's hand into giving ULA a waiver for human rating Vulkan because "MUH SINGLE SOURCE BAD" autism?

>> No.15210943

>>15210928
>So if they have the wrong thoughts or the wrong feelings they stop having value?
Yeah every communist should be shot.

>There's a reason why every civilization that ever existed has rituals for handling the dead
Because primitive people are stupid and irrational. A more intelligent society would dismantle them for organ transplants and throw whatever is left into a compost.

>Once you look at a person, even a dead one, as a collection of resources, your society has entered a death spiral and will not survive.
Prove it; you can’t.

>> No.15210944

>>15210935
Based Chinese

>> No.15210945

>>15210943
>Yeah every communist should be shot.
Strange, I thought you'd be all for communism, with your strictly material view of humanity.

>> No.15210948

>>15210945
>your strictly material view of humanity.
Never said anything of the sort. Maybe you’re just a retard.

>> No.15210951

>>15210945
Communism is bad because it doesn't work. The economic incentive structure it creates always leads to mass confiscation, mass suffering, mass death, and technological stagnation or regression. Materialism isn't the flaw.

>> No.15210964

starbase employees ride around in hovercraft now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqW1JxVBVAI

>> No.15210966

>>15210942
Starliner will ride on Starship

>> No.15210967

>>15210942
it's not for next year, but many years down the road. vulcan and falcon are the only ones that can launch it and arent vaporware.

>> No.15210971

>>15210964
Why do they have a hovercraft

>> No.15210981

>>15210971
transport to south padre island or something

>> No.15210988

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1626664710769631235
>Here's a mind-bending statistic for those who have followed the US launch industry for awhile: SpaceX has launched 21 rockets since ULA's last launch on Nov. 10 2022.
torybros...

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>> No.15210995

>>15210988
But were they super accurate launches?

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15210997

Where is it?

>> No.15210998
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15210998

>>15210964
how about hovercraft erector launchers?
https://news.usni.org/2013/10/02/floating-shell-game-tom-clancys-1982-plan-fire-nuclear-weapons-hovercraft

>> No.15210999

>>15210992
He looks like a GTA character during a cutscene.

>> No.15211005

>>15210971
For hovering

>> No.15211007

>>15211005
Do they have an FAA permit?

>> No.15211013

>>15210964
Wow we really are in the future

>> No.15211023

>>15211007
uh oh, another 100k-dollar fine incoming

>> No.15211024

No one needs high capacity hovercrafts.

>> No.15211028

>>15210971
cheaper than building a dock for a ferry boat

>> No.15211032

>>15210988
soon 22

>> No.15211035

>>15210995
By ULA's definition of success, yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8A1kukGVc0
Notice at 1:22 the sfg-anon time traveller behind Elon

>> No.15211040

>>15211005
Of course, makes perfect sense, I feel dumb for wondering now.

>> No.15211051

>>15210943
>A more intelligent society would dismantle them for organ transplants and throw whatever is left into a compost.
Why?
There's no shortage of biomass.

>> No.15211057

>FAA Proposes $175,000 Fine Against SpaceX for Not Submitting Required Pre-Launch Data
We have to get rid of the faa NOW

>> No.15211061

>>15211057
>Abolish the FAA

>> No.15211065

>>15211057
at least the FAA is one of very few federal agencies which isn't unconstitutional. it should still be abolished though

>> No.15211069

>>15211061
>>15211057
I hope that when we get to Mars and the colony eventually becomes independent we don't commit the same mistakes again. There'll be no regulatory agencies like the FAA or SEC.

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15211070

>>15210119
They ain't getting paid enough fo that shit

>> No.15211088

SpaceX just went live

>> No.15211092

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxfFL249aoU
spacex is back

>> No.15211095
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https://youtu.be/6QyZDqcDePg

LIVE

>> No.15211099

live

>> No.15211100

>spacex have launched 3,981 starlink satellites
>this is only 10% of the number they need
shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

>> No.15211102

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuzXXyKF-ms
T-14:00

>> No.15211105

>only its third flight
pathetic

>> No.15211108

>>15211100
This triggers the astronomer

>> No.15211113

I wonder if she thinks about all the money she could make on onlyfans

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This sturdy motherfucker did a 11G launch abort and still went to orbit again a year later

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>>15211095
luv clear
luv Falcon 9
luv spacex

>> No.15211123

>>15211100
>>spacex have launched 3,981 starlink satellites
lol, 3k satellites were the amount of shit we had up there just some years ago, all those retards saying starlink was never going to work and that it was a fraud were all proven wrong, like always

>> No.15211125

https://twitter.com/wapodavenport/status/1626790650921291777
>From what I hear, everything is on track for a March launch attempt as far as the FAA is concerned.
GOING

>> No.15211126

>>15211119
>Clear's hand crushes you

>> No.15211129

>>15211125
Based FAA?

>> No.15211132

>>15211125
between this and berger i think its time that i prepare for a trip to boca chica

>> No.15211133

decollage

>> No.15211134

>>15211057
>>15211125
the duality of FAA

>> No.15211136

2 Falcon comsat launches in 1 day is comfy

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>>15211108

>> No.15211138

>>15211134
The FAA has actually been pretty cool desu. They were mad when SpaceX launched SN8 without filing the full report beforehand but they didn’t ground Starship for months to run an investigation or something.

>> No.15211140

173rd

>> No.15211141

>>15211138
we're in a new faa now. one that shoots down hobbyists balloons for fun.

>> No.15211143

off the x, absolutely sloppy form

>> No.15211144

>>15211117
savage

>> No.15211145

The left camera came online first and I thought the stage tipped over lol

>> No.15211147

>>15211141
The new FAA that also isn’t delaying Starship? Lol I swear you guys are always looking for shit to be doom and gloom about

>> No.15211151

>>15211147
the one that just gave spacex a huge fine for a nothingburger

>> No.15211154

>>15211151
$175,000

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>2 Raptors failed on the static fire
>So far, zero Raptor swaps have been made
What?

>> No.15211159

>>15211137
lol, fuck astroonomers, they are cucks

>> No.15211160

>>15211158
Do you replace your car engine if it fails to crank on the first try?

>> No.15211163

Expect SECO at 35000 km/h

>> No.15211165

Good orbit

>> No.15211167

>>15211165
By SpaceX's definition, of course.

>> No.15211168

>>15211158
Luis is being sent in to smack the defective raptors with a mallet a few times

>> No.15211171

>That shot of the blue earth below the payload
Holy kino

>> No.15211176

>>15211171
>Incoming NOOA fine

>> No.15211179

Falcon 9 Block 5 now has 154/154 launches. The only active rocket with more launches is Soyuz 2, with 147/155 launches being successful

>> No.15211180

>>15211176
NOAA doesn't fine, they straight up block all permits and prevent any actual Earth livestreams.

>> No.15211184

>>15211119
i hate vtubers but at least this one is funny

>> No.15211185

>>15211180
What a dystopian world we live in.

>> No.15211201

>>15211180
What about the ISS stream?

>> No.15211202

>>15210436
>https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=6871
>"BRO NOBODY ACTUALLY CREATED A REAL WORMHOLE I AM ANGRY"
lmfao nobody said they created a physical wormhole in our universe. this guy wrote a whole essay over nothing.

>> No.15211203

>>15211201
Government owned lab so FAA and NOAA don't apply

>> No.15211210

>>15211203
So we have to make SpaceX the government then.

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Supposed SpaceX engineer (not the guy who got BTFO’d) says launch soon

>> No.15211220

>>15211216
>Just 3 more weeks

>> No.15211222

>>15210568
>16gb
>High RAM requirements
Time to ditch your vintage thinkpad, sir.

>> No.15211225

>>15211220
Launch will one day be 2 weeks away and we’ll never know

>> No.15211226

>>15211216
three weeks

>> No.15211232

>>15210967
Yeah, but Tory doesn't seem interested in human rating Vulkan. That's my point, so when you see the tweet by Berger he even says that BO is who they are going to turn to, except that everyone here who isn't a retard knows that NG is nowhere near ready to launch, and not anywhere near ready for human rating. They are going to have to freeze the design (which I doubt they will do), experience not one single fuck up, and do, what? A dozen successful launches I think NASA wants, right? Stack all those things on top of one another and BO is ruled out as being a possible option for providing a launch vehicle for Starliner. This brings us back to the original problem of NASA's single-source launcher autism butting up against Tory's disinterest in human rating.
That's why I think he's going to just play chicken with NASA and see if they'll budge by human rating the rocket since NASA won't just let SpaceX launch everything. Hell, no one will.

>> No.15211236

>>15211216
hmm... two weeks IS less than three weeks, by some people's reckoning

>> No.15211241

>>15211220
Believe it or not, 3 weeks is less than 2 weeks.

>> No.15211245

https://twitter.com/thetimellis/status/1626801425857789953
Tim the proonter is happy about NSSL

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>>15210712

>> No.15211247

>>15211245
Isn’t this going to hurt ULA?

>> No.15211249

What happened to the SpaceX that churned out Starship prototypes on a WEEKLY basis? The SpaceX that would add some new rings to these prototypes every couple of hours, you'd be watching a live stream, go do something else, and by the time you come back there was already visible progress. Waking up, and the first thing was to check out what was new at Boca Chica while sipping your morning coffee, also speculating for what will happen tomorrow. There was also waiting for RGV aerial's pictures so you'd end up later gawking at the sheer rate of expansion the launch and build site were going through. They were so fast and hard to keep track of them that tankwatchers went from weekly update, to bi-weekly, to daily ones, because EVERY SINGLE DAY in Boca Chica there was something new to show. There was so much hope in the air. Mars 2022 cargo missions, Mars 2024, albeit a minuscule and non-zero chance, for the manned missions. But surely 2026, 2028 at the absolute latest, for us to finally go there, if this pace of progress is maintained, we thought. My goodness, what the fuck happened.

>> No.15211253

>>15211249
Turned out building the infrastructure they required was very difficult the first time around, and getting engines reliable enough for a flight test took a long time.

>> No.15211260

>>15211249
>What happened
What makes you think anything happened?

>There was so much hope in the air. Mars 2022 cargo missions, Mars 2024, albeit a minuscule and non-zero chance, for the manned missions.
There was never any hope of that.

This might be a hard concept, but things sometimes happen in places that aren't documented by a NSF livestream. Way too many people seem to think that just because an aerospace company doesn't hide everything away inside a skunkworks suddenly everyone watching youtube becomes omniscient.

>> No.15211265

>>15211253
moral of the story: it wasn't that easy in rocketry

>> No.15211267

>>15211246
switch the F9's for Starships with the tiles

>> No.15211268

>>15211249
Before, they were building the prototypes, now they're building the process.
They also ran into a regulatory wall, and exhausted the useful testing that could be done before an orbital flight. They're not building ships and boosters as quickly as they're able, because if they did there would be rockets getting scrapped left and right.

>> No.15211269

>>15211249
Space actually is hard after all.

>> No.15211273

>>15211051
Live human organs are in high demand; a substantial portion of people waiting for transplants die before they can get one.

>> No.15211274

>>15211253
>>15211260
>>15211268
>>15211269
I'm almost sure that's a copypasta.

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>>15211246
>posting coal burner meme

>> No.15211276

>>15210569
Only if its actually retail and not early access. Everyone knows early access is almost always a dumpster fire.
>>15210601
Hey, it worked splendidly for Star Citizen. 500M raised and still going strong.
>>15211222
Its pretty high for more than 75% of the market you loony.

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15211278

You know you didn’t lose your self control
Let’s start at the rainbow

>> No.15211283

>>15211276
>500M raised
are you serious?

>> No.15211286

>>15210640
The fundamental problem isn't with tunnel boring tech, that's gotten pretty advanced. It's the fact that boring projects are similar to cost plus aerospace contracts. There's next to no incentive to deliver anything on time or at budget or below budget. The industry is ripe with blown budget and contract corruption in the construction industry. Transitioning the industry to milestone based fixed firm price contracts would fix almost all the problems.

Too bad that will basically never happen.

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I’m going to the moon one day bros

>> No.15211291

>>15210070
what the fuck
last time I paid attention to KSP development kspg had just been rightfully bant from /vg/
Did squid rebrand because those GPU specs scream unity not us

>> No.15211292

>>15211286
i literally dont care about government contracts. something costs as much as it costs not as much as the government pays.

>> No.15211293

>>15211283
Drink up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_ZW6zxYwmk

>> No.15211296

>>15210119
Not happening. I will eat my hat and also would probably be OpenGL compute shaders.

>> No.15211299

>>15210997
2024-2025 is when those launches come online. Good chance the rate of Starship/Cargo ship flights will have reached sufficient cadence that the payload maybe transitioned entirely over to those vehicles instead. In which case, the profit margin on the existing contract basically goes to 80% kek

>> No.15211304

>>15211292
Except most things cost half as much as advertised and the cost of building them, on average, is overinflated as much as 3-400%. So you're wrong on all counts.

>> No.15211311

>>15211288
hi tim

>> No.15211315

I hope by 2030, we'll have an orbital super station that will leverage 3D printers to print Starships Earth, Moon, and Mars missions.

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>>15211283
Can't make it up.

>> No.15211319

>>15211316
I have been following this project since 2013. I used to think that it would be complete by 2020 KEKW. We're not even close.
The game is fun so far tho.

>> No.15211322

>>15211316
why haven't skeptics deboonked this "game" yet?

>> No.15211328

>>15211322
Cause there's nothing to deboonk. They working on it everyday and there's weekly dev videos to track progress.

>> No.15211330

>>15211319
Chris Roberts was at the right time and right place with SC/Squadron 42. There will never be another opportunity like it for the gaming industry. I'm willing to bet a cookie that by 2030, this will hit $1.2Bn in funding and the game will not have left alpha.

>>15211322
Because, it is deboonking proof. You literally can't deboonk it. Any attempt to deboonk it is like splashing water on oil; it slides right off. Star Citizen is the perfect storm of an ever-evolving tech demo. It perpetually pushes the boundary of possible, so it perpetually remains in alpha.

The game's scope has become so massive, that its 550.6M raised budget isn't enough to get it past early to mid alpha. 4.0 doesn't even get it to beta. It probably won't hit beta until 8.5 or 9.0; so another 5-7 years of development.

>> No.15211331

>>15210267
Funny, assuming it’s original

>> No.15211335

Climate change is a real problem and it needs to be fixed (on venus)

>> No.15211337

>>15211335
How tf do you even fix Venus

>> No.15211339

>>15211337
I don’t think it’s reasonably possible

>> No.15211343

>>15211288
I'm going to (fuck) the moon one day bros

>> No.15211347

>>15211337
Cloud cities and ignore what's going on below.

>> No.15211350

>>15211343
I'm going to shit on the moon one day sirs

>> No.15211351
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>>15211337
SUNSHADE

>> No.15211360

>>15211337
Blast most of the atmosphere away with a gargantuan PROCSIMA array, or remove it piecemeal with a similarly huge fleet of atmospheric scoops. Once it's at an appropriate atmospheric density, sunshade until it's at the temperature you want.
This can all be accomplished by heavy industrialization of Mercury.

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>>15211343

>> No.15211363

>>15211202
ask any faggot on the street that saw that story and they'll parrot what the retarded pop sci media told them, which is that a wormhole was created

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>>15211337
>>15211351
>>15211360
terraforming cucks will never be CLOUD CHADS

>> No.15211368

>>15211365
Cloud cities are ultimate cuckville. Fully reliant on outside supplies, and you don't even have a surface.

>> No.15211371

>>15211368
You can get all you need by sending probes down to the surface to haul raw materials back up. It would be much like mining the sea floor.

>> No.15211373

>>15211368
>but muh surface
terraforming cucks once again can't understand the might of floating
Also, you retards will need to crash a lot of comets into Venus to get water in the end

>> No.15211375

>>15211365
A cloud city is something you'd build for a reason. Maybe you're mining the atmosphere to export to Mars, and you need a base of operations.

>> No.15211376

>>15211299
Thanks for the delusional spacex stan take, thread needs more of these

>> No.15211379

>>15211368
yeah but you can pretend you're living in Bioshock Infinite so it evens out

>> No.15211384

>>15211368
O'Neill stations are ultimate cuckville. Fully reliant on outside supplies, and you don't even have a surface.

>> No.15211403

>>15211330
>The game's scope has become so massive
How is the game's scope so massive? I know pretty much nothing about star citizen and I can't see how a video game would need 500 MILLION to develop.

>> No.15211423

>>15211337
big sniffs

>> No.15211426

>>15211276
My now 9 year old previous computer had 16gb.

>> No.15211429

>>15211384
Difference being that your station can ingest asteroids for processing

>> No.15211433

>>15211360
Too bad PROCSIMA was a scam.

>> No.15211434

>>15211125
Nonzero chance Starship is orbital before starliner crewed flight.

>> No.15211435

>>15211433
What? I didn't see anything about it getting deboonked.

>> No.15211445

>>15211435
It just went nowhere.

>> No.15211463

>>15211445
Plenty of known or theorized technologies/phenomena have gone nowhere because of a lack of will to fund or further test them. PROCSIMA is really only useful if you've got an established industrial presence in space.

>> No.15211468

>>15211337
Sunshade, it's the only practical way

Probably doesn't even need to be planet-sized if you can get it close enough to the sun, but now you're close to the sun

>> No.15211469

>>15211463
Cope.

>> No.15211472

>>15211435
It violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

>> No.15211478

>>15211429
O'neillites always say this, but I've never seen a more detailed analysis of how you engineer an asteroid mining system that can create enough propellant, water, air and required materials for self maintenance at a sufficient rate to comfortably sustain a population. We don't even really understand how to do serious industrial work in zero G. At least on a planet we can pretty easily extrapolate from earth and bring what is essentially fancy industrial equipment. This is without adding in the challenge of constantly spinning around part of your superstructure as well (It would be more plausible if you didn't bother spinning it and just accepted gene modding/natural selection in the residents). In space, to be an Oneillian, you essentially have to find a way to be a space pastoralist without any space horses or space grass, while lugging around complicated machinery, in what is essentially a desert with small oases scattered throughout, at each of which you need to expend a lot of effort to get at, and have a different set of materials, such that you'll need to plan ahead and know the composition of an asteroid pretty well before you get there. The engineering challenge would be extreme.

>> No.15211480

>>15211478
*construction equipment

>> No.15211481

>>15211331
It's not, some anon posted it here last year.

>> No.15211487

>>15211478
>>15211480
Pl*netroon cope
Cylinder Chads rule supreme.

>> No.15211489

>>15211478
Stations only make sense if they're providing a service, and the best thing they can do is exploit their spinning to impart delta-v to passing ships using long tethers. They can trade this service for supplies.

>> No.15211496

>Cylinder Chads rule supreme.
I wonder if cylindercucks realize that they are really just space gypsies. It's sad to see.

>> No.15211503

I refuse to live on the inside of a spinning Pringles can staring up at my neighbors' backyards.
If you can make proper artificial gravity that doesn't rely on spinning, I'll consider it.

>> No.15211525

>2 F9 in same day

>> No.15211537

>>15211472
>2nd law of thermodynamics
not a law. also not it doesn't

>> No.15211557

>>15211478
self sufficiency is a spook
you can import just about everything and still prosper by focusing on other things
I mean look at a place like Las Vegas - it has no mines, no farms, no industry
or look at tiny nations like Singapore and Luxembourg

>> No.15211565

>>15210591
If you look closer at the footage, the dust cloud is a screen effect, not something that happens in-game. It was probably added on top of the footage to mask the jump-cut.

>> No.15211571

>>15210683
We Death Stranding now.

>> No.15211580

>>15211216
This unverifiable claim aligns with my beliefs and desires, so it must be true.

>> No.15211587

>>15211337
I like the idea of putting a portal into the Venusian atmosphere, the other end onto some other celestial body/bodies, like Mars, and sucking the excess via the pressure difference. This, however, it technologically unfeasible.

>> No.15211606

>>15211587
That's the dumbest idea I ever heard

>> No.15211622

>>15211606
It's pretty dumb, but I've seen worse

>> No.15211633

Why are people saying a sunshade would fix Venus?

The fuck do you do about all the fuckin' methane and acid, retards? Sure, the Sunshade lowers temps and stops the endless acid rain, but that doesn't magically unfuck the atmosphere.

>> No.15211645

>>15211633
it would all freeze dumbfucker

>> No.15211646

>>15211633
>endless acid rain
It's overblown. There's not much acid in there.
What there is is co2.
Frozen venus would have kilometers of co2 ice we'd have to get rid of

>> No.15211661

>>15211645
That doesn't magically make it go away, dipshit. All you've done is changed its state.

>> No.15211662

>>15210070
>those GPU requirements
It's coded just as poorly if not worse, not going to waste time with it until it's more stable in a few years

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Hang on I only realized benus has 3.5% nitrogen but more total mass

Earf:
>the atmosphere has a mass of about 5.15×10^18 kg

Benus:
>4.8 × 10^20 kg

Which means venus has MORE nitrogen by mass than earf!
5.15×10^18 kg * 0.78 = 4.017E18 kg
4.8x10^20 kg * 0.035 = 1.68E19 kg

Benus is the thinking mans choice for colonization.

>> No.15211677

>>15211661
Yep, that's right. Take some time to think about that, I can tell you're slow

>> No.15211678

>99 successful Falcon booster landings in a row.
Holy shit

>> No.15211679

>>15211463
PROCSIMA is a death ray.,

>> No.15211687

Why did suborbital tourism die down? I was expecting the cadence to increase, but the opposite happened.

>> No.15211689

>>15211679
Macron accelerators are a more practical death ray.

>> No.15211691

>>15211687
Probably the 40g in flight abort

>> No.15211699

>>15211687
No one's going to pay real money just for a suborbital hop.

>> No.15211703

>>15211699
It's only 500k. There are enough rich guys willing to spend their money on such stuff.

>> No.15211713

>>15211691
How about Virgin Galactic?

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>>15211496
gypsies don't dismantle solar systems and make interstellar death rays

>> No.15211749

>>15211669
Exactly, all you need is sunshades, magnets, hydrogen, and time.

>> No.15211760

>>15211703
>It's only 500k
Even worse. Imagine how much of a cuck you'd feel, paying middle class prices for a middle class space hop. Like sitting on the waiting list to buy a mid-range Rolex, instead of inheriting a vintage Submariner from your father.

>> No.15211763

>>15211734
To lash out with violence when confronted with one's own limitations; a typical cylinder-gypsy response.

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>>15211763
> gravity well cuck calling spinchads limited
the irony

>> No.15211784

>>15211703
Nope. Its closer to $20+M. The only real payers pay that. Rest are ambassadors who are given free or subsidized rides by BO

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>>15211734
>>15211768
as others have mentioned, you won't be able to do anything up there, by the time you have figured out how to mine in zero G and engineered a way to subsist only on the solar system's scraps, you will be vastly outnumbered by welldwellers, who will not permit wasteful parasites in their SOI's. Until then, you may be able to subsist as deltaV traders, totally reliant on the more productive colonists as they depart to their new homes, while you scrounge and save your mass and propellant.

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>>15211787
We will have the high ground and drop rocks on cellar dweller scum if need be

>> No.15211820

>>15211291
/ksp2g/ will hopefully be a thing

>> No.15211832

https://twitter.com/rookisaacman/status/1626756081304145920

>> No.15211834

>>15211662
2060 is 5 years old. Time to move on.

>> No.15211836

>>15211834
Most popular GPU on steam is 1060 or 1650, 1060 was released in mid 2016. 7 year old GPU.

>> No.15211838

>>15211834
So what? Graphics in that game do not justify the ridiculous requirements.

>> No.15211844

>>15211812
It'll be a trivial matter to annihilation your cope stations with matter beams from the mighty battle stations of Mars.

>> No.15211852

>>15211836
1060 includes laptop.
If you add up 3060 and 3060 mobile it's the poorfag choice.

>>15211838
I'm saying the requirements aren't ridiculous

>> No.15211856

>>15211852
The game looks like shit, there's so no reason to require 2060 as a bare minimum and 3080 for high settings.

>> No.15211858

>>15211856
>there's so no reason
The date is february 2023. There's your reason.

>> No.15211867

>>15211832
i luv stah wawrs

>> No.15211869

>>15211852
>1060 includes laptop.
So does 2060
Or 3060

>> No.15211872

>>15211858
How is that a reason?

>> No.15211873

>>15211858
my 770 works for most games today

>> No.15211882

>>15211869
No 3060 is listed twice because "3060" "3060 mobile" they add up to 8%

>>15211872
Because the fricking world needs to move on man. Even the coonsole have 6700XT in them.

>>15211873
Well it won't be soon

>> No.15211886

>>15210640
yeah
channel tiny nukes

>> No.15211893

>>15210640
Boring Company is doing that

>> No.15211895

>>15211882
This isn't a reason. For some reason, both Dead Space remake and Returnal have lower requirements than KSP2, despite looking way better.

>> No.15211898

ksp 2 will get ps6 port?

>> No.15211907

>>15211360
>blast excess atmosphere away
>still use a sunshade
what's it like being retarded?
if you're going the sunshade route just let the atmosphere freeze solid so you can easily launch it away and use it at places that might need more (mars) or store it and use for other purposes

>> No.15211913

https://youtu.be/4MYQjq1y41A
this looks really bad...

>> No.15211923

>>15211895
>despite looking way better.
Look way better on what? I doubt they look way better than this ksp2 on their minimum requirements.

>> No.15211924

>>15211895
Soulless publisher
Bonehead dev team
Unoptimized
Early access
Unity engine
Physics game
Denuvo DRM
Perfect storm for the shittiest performing game of the generation. $50.

>> No.15211930

>>15211913
This looked fine

>> No.15211934

>>15211930
It's running at 15fps on dual 4090s

>> No.15211938

>>15211924
>Denuvo DRM
Well shit. I hope empress gets her donations for this.

>> No.15211954

>>15211938
Not confirmed

>> No.15211955

>>15211882
You sound like a faggot
Like brainless numoney

>> No.15211956

>>15211955
You are one.
I'm comfy on my 1060 but I don'r expect it to work miracles.

>> No.15212019

>>15211286
so you're saying not a single government in the world thought of giving out fixed cost contracts out for making a tunnel?

>> No.15212028

>>15211180
why the fuck do they do that

>> No.15212032

>>15211253
>getting engines reliable enough for a flight test took a long time.
they're still not reliable enough

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>>15209978
Oh wow, it really blew up, Clear 20k subs soon.
The reason why it went viral was because their media seemed to be garbage at reporting the launch and this random vtuber immediately explained what went wrong.

>> No.15212037

>>15211768
>cylinderfag thinks the gravity well is a literal well

>> No.15212039

>>15211812
You won't be alive for o'neil cylinders to be built anyways, even if you are you'll be at best in your 70s or 80s.

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>>15212037
Do you have to climb out of it to get anywhere? Yes, therefore it's a good metaphor.
>>15212039
> Personalizing matters like human destiny
Intensely plebeian, get Promethean nigga:
https://youtu.be/KRRXtymX50U?t=39

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>tfw no UR-700M ICBM

Either you destroy your enemy's continent by sending MIRVed Backyard nukes, or your destroy your own in a launch failure

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>>15212060
How will you mine large objects like moons and planets without descending into their gravity wells?

>> No.15212109

>>15211956
Here are some miracles for you. Your PC can easily run Hogwart's Legacy, Dead Space Remake, Returnal and Forspoken but not KSP2.
Stop being a faggot.

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>>15212096
Visiting for resource extraction is fine, just no permanent residents or they end up like picrel or worse (assuming healthy gestation is even possible in fractional gravity)

>> No.15212146

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCpAO8C2e-M
Danke herr professor

>> No.15212152

>>15212109
Nice schizo headcannon moron

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>>15211768
Imagine climbing out of this then deciding to go live in a slightly shallower pit lmao

>> No.15212163

>>15212152
Are you retarded or just pretending? You can easily look up the requirements of those games and prove me wrong.

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>>15212110
>visiting for resource extraction is fine
the amount of propellant it would take to descend a medium to large gravity well, extract all the useful mass and then climb back up out it would be absurd. I'm not sure there's enough prop in the solar system for it. Not to mention, if there are any previous residents, you will lose your high ground advantage (they will take potshots at you with whatever they've got + lay traps for you). They'll probably also call you space gypsies for trying to steal their planet/moon.

>> No.15212193

Firefly is starting construction of its Cape pad

>> No.15212195

>>15212193
I read it as Cope pad

>> No.15212199

>>15212110
hey gestation schizo, long time no see.

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>>15212173
Propellants will give way to mass drivers, space elevators and whatnot for lifting the mass flows needed so that's no issue. Planet dwellers will sell at reasonable prices as otherwise things will be sourced elsewhere. Fantasies about Mercury colonies or Saturnian moon colonies won't pan out.

>> No.15212219

>>15212163
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14idRgbV6zY
This is my last (you)

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>>15212199
Oh you have data on gestation in low gravity do you? Please share it. Child development too, if that's not too much trouble.

>> No.15212238

>>15212222
>Oh you have data on gestation in low gravity do you?
We gestated rats and frogs in orbit and the only difference was they took longer to develop a sense of balance once on the ground.

>> No.15212281

>>15212219
1
https://youtu.be/ReMsjl1Q04s
2
https://youtu.be/oNFmzTYWtCs
3
https://youtu.be/pMkC21ba1f4
The last one has the worst performance, but it's still above 30 FPS. What's important is that all those games look way better than KSP and at the same time have lower requirements.

>> No.15212283

>>15212110
>assuming healthy gestation is even possible in fractional gravity
they bred Medaka fish on the ISS and there were no gestation problems. In fact there are no health problems associated with long term 0g. Why would you intentionally want to create gravity using a rotating cylinder when you could just float around without limits?

>> No.15212288

>>15212281
>FSR

>> No.15212291

>>15212070
>The American says that they are building smaller bombs, that this is more efficient
>Russia disagrees with this

>> No.15212294

>>15212238
>We gestated rats and frogs in orbit
source? Anyway I'm looking forward to multigenerational animal space breeding experiments. To see what traits will be selected in 0g.

>> No.15212298

>>15212019
All governments are captured by various lobbies, so the answer to your question is no.

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>>15212298
Fucking tunneler dwarf lobby baka

>> No.15212310

>>15211426
The majority of the market plays games on laptops anon.

>> No.15212313

>>15212288
10 series does not support DLSS.

>> No.15212315

>>15212310
I got 32gb on my laptop

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>>15212315
What do you need so much memory for?

>> No.15212323

>>15212320
Modded KSP

>> No.15212324

>>15212320
As long as pajeets write spaghetti code, you will never have enough RAM.

>> No.15212328

>>15212320
It was like 100 bucks and 16 was something like 70 at that time, so I just future proof it.

>> No.15212337

>>15212324
This. We will never have smoothly running devices even with exponentially increasing computing power.

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>>15211159

>> No.15212387

>>15211100
Remember when everyone said it was impossible to launch that many?

>> No.15212392

https://youtu.be/iiKH8X5_S_0
>ditches the oil rigs
It's truly over isn't it

>> No.15212394

>>15212392
Just wait until they start scrapping catch tower

>> No.15212408

>>15212394
God I hope so

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15212418

Two
More
Weeks

>> No.15212439

>>15212418
the goberment is holding the launch back they were supposed to launch in Feb but the govt wasn't ready

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>> No.15212451

>>15212444
Don’t jump too high

>> No.15212472

>>15212209
Guys did you hear?
The cylinder gyppos say we have to sell them our planet at a "reasonable price"
Or... Something will happen? I can't tell

>> No.15212532

Staging
>>15212531
>>15212531
>>15212531

>> No.15212752

>>15212320
>32
>so much
lol, lmao even
t. runs out of memory regularly now with 32