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15202188 No.15202188 [Reply] [Original]

Why is Einstein so famous, especially compared to those who worked in similar fields to him? I get that his work was cool and stuff, and of course, he deserves to be recognised, but what set him apart from people like Von Neumann or Feynman? Did he have a crack PR team or something?

>> No.15202203

>I get that his work was cool and stuff
judging from the rest of your question, you clearly don't

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>> No.15202252

>>15202219
Can you give something to read about this like wikipedia pages

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>>15202252
if thats what you're after then i suggest you try looking on wikipedia. its got a search engine.

>> No.15202265

>>15202188
Einstein was a genius for sure, but I don't get why he's so much more famous than Poincare and Lorentz. Poincare should be at least as famous as Einstein. And E=mc^2 should be attributed to him.

>> No.15202273

>>15202264
yea..i figured i would just waste my time over there

>> No.15202301
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>>15202188
Jews, at that time, had almost ZERO accomplishments in physics, science in general, maths, literature, music, drama, inventions, you name it. And so they basically tried to invent the ultimate 'super smart jew' to try and compensate. Most scientists knew he was a fraud then and there was a controversy called the priority dispute Now it is all covered up.

>> No.15203542

It's random. He also looks funny and memorable.
>>15202219
>>15202301
polcuck cope, still waiting for your preprint to drop fellas

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>>15202219
Obviously, you aren’t completely correct in your reasoning because Lorentz and Einstein are standing right next to each other in this picture and both appear to be pretty happy. If Einstein stole their ideas like you’re suggesting, this probably wouldn’t be the case.

>> No.15203603

>>15202188
Because he was a socialist.

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>>15203542
>He also looks funny and memorable.
only because of consistent repetitive spamming of his image on every single visual media format ever invented

>> No.15203617

>>15203601
It was a much more civilized age.

>> No.15203619

>>15203608
more cope, he does look funny
you're confusing cause and effect to suit your narrative, like a typical polfaggot

>> No.15203647 [DELETED] 

>>15203619
steinmetz was way more comical looking, still gets less attention. this disproves your theory.

>> No.15203655

>>15202188
He had that funny German accent and quirky hair.

>> No.15203668

>>15203647
No it doesn't. Who becomes mega famous is random, but biased by looks amongst other things. Steinmetz died before WW2, so he couldn't possible ride the same wave as Einstein and your "point" is meaningless. Einstein's work is also more exotic and has popsci appeal. Einstein being a Jew didn't hurt, since there was a lot of sympathy for them after WW2. None of that makes it a top-down Jewish conspiracy.

>> No.15203739

>>15202188
The photo-electric effect work that he did was good. Relativity not as much (he only received the Nobel prize for the Photo electric effect).

In any event relativity descended into a clusterfuck free for all with Quantum mechanics and free will and superdeterminism that physicists still kill each other for nowadays. I think there is a thread on this topic right now actually.

Given that he was given too much credit for relativity, one must wonder about the originality of his work on Photo-Electric effect though.

>> No.15203744 [DELETED] 

>>15203739
>Given that he was given too much credit for relativity, one must wonder about the originality of his work on Photo-Electric effect though.
Almost none at all. His only contribution is making up the idea of a "photon" particle, rather than the wave-packet interpretation preferred prior to him. Heinrich Hertz discovered the effect and first characterized it. It used to be named after him actually.

>> No.15203748

>>15203739
>one must wonder about the originality of his work on Photo-Electric effect though.
Considering it used to be called the "Hertz Effect," I'll leave that to you to think about for yourself.

>> No.15203830

John Von Neumann made more contributions than Einstein could ever think of in his lifetime.

>> No.15203843

>>15203748
Hmm interesting. Ok ill look that up.

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>>15202252
>Can you give something to read about this like wikipedia pages

Try his diary. If only they would release the other parts, wonder why they didn't?

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>>15203668
amongst peers, steinmetz was the standout. who is the center of attention in picrel? who is the most hilariously deformed? who is off to the side in a fedora like some loser at a reddit meetup?

>> No.15203917

>>15203914
Yeah, Einstein isn't deformed, he looks crazy but reasonably friendly. And... Steinmetz died too early

>> No.15203921

>>15203748
Hertz didn't explain it, Einstein did. And the explanation proved to be very significant. I'll just leave you to think about that for yourself (probably a mistake)

>> No.15203923

>>15203921
>Hertz didn't explain it, Einstein did.
lol
>And the explanation proved to be very significant.
lmao

>> No.15203925

>>15203923
hehe

>> No.15204195

>>15202188
I thought Einstein was the one who created the first proper theory that described a lot about how space works without using aether. And the things that go along with that like light having a speed limit and being the same speed in all reference frames and time dilation and soforth. From what I've seen his contemporaries didn't say he didn't deserve the various accolades he received so I figured that he did put together a lot of it on his own, obviously building on other theories at the time

>> No.15204202

>>15204195
didn't get a prize for it so it doesn't count

lets also forget about e=mc2, and how without him the atomic bomb might never have been invented

>> No.15204436

>>15203668
>None of that makes it a top-down Jewish conspiracy.
Its literally the only reason einsteinberg is popular. Aslong with connections to patent offices where he stole all the ideas to larp as some genius helped by several pro-jew media operations

>> No.15204442

>>15202188
>set him apart from people like Von Neumann
Von Neumann made no significant contribution to science. There's a reason Neumann doesn't even have a Nobel prize.
>Feynman
He was good but still not as impactful as Einstein.

>> No.15204507

>>15202188
He was a Jew that stole the works of others, sold the world on the theory of relativity, and married his cousin.

>> No.15204768

>>15203601
>standing right next to each other in this picture and both appear to be pretty happy
Staged pic has any significance. Will define that as the new 4chan moment.

>>15202188
>Why is Einstein so famous,
Because he's promoted, why else? This dumb theory he has distilled out of others work without citing them shows the target group. Everyone believing that muddlehead was a genius buys all other media lies. Such as BigBang, Tonkin, Covid etc.

>> No.15204996

>>15202188
>Feynmeme

>> No.15206567

Off the top of my head
>Understood the underlying connection between various tiny hypotheses and unified them (SRT)
>Photoelectric effect plus explanation
>Explained Brownian motion
>Explained biased erosion of rivers
>Heavy contributions to quantum mechanics by being rationally skeptical
>Derived general relativity earlier than Planck
>Predicted three effects that were tested only decades later
>Made atom bomb and nuclear power possible
>Discovered lasers
>Invented a fridge mechanism
>Several contributions to cosmology
Many more. That track record is hardly beatable.

>> No.15206611

>>15202301
>Jews, at that time, had almost ZERO accomplishments in physics, science in general, maths, literature, music, drama, inventions, you name it. And so they basically tried to invent the ultimate 'super smart jew' to try and compensate. Most scientists knew he was a fraud then and there was a controversy called the priority dispute Now it is all covered up.
Extremely dumb schizo theory. Jews were renowned in all fields since long before Einstein.

Einstein obviously couldn't have done what he did without building on the work of others, but you won't find a single physicist this isn't true of. Especially any working since the start of the 20th century. Maybe you can find some from millennia ago.

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>>15202188
lets say you were such an amazing scientist that you discovered how to extend human life expectancy by 50% and you were working in the same era as some clown who was spouting off useless, nondisprovable nonscientific nonsense cosmology theories and then a century later nobody ever heard of you, but the cosmic charlatan was a household name. most of the people reading this would have died of childhood illness without picrel, but unfortunately they survived to spend their lives worshiping a jewish clown.

>> No.15206711

>>15202188
>A little known Einstein published his now famous papers in journal Annalen der Physik in 1905

>A jewish guy, Paul Drude was the editor of the journal from 1900 to 1905

>In 1905 he became the director of the physics institute of the University of Berlin. In 1906, at the height of his career, he became a member of the Prussian Academy of Sciences.

>A few days after his inauguration lecture, for inexplicable reasons, he committed suicide.

>> No.15206715

>>15202188
The redneck whitey can't handle the intellectual acclaim of the high-IQ Jew.

>> No.15206984

>>15202188
Einstein accelerated the field really quickly. Special relativity was nothing special. With or without him it would of been found out. However general relatvitity was something special. Its ability to model the universe is amazing. He was very very ahead of his time. Hell he even had to learn non euclidean geometry making general relativity in making his models. Non euclidean geometry was some obscure math some math nerds fiddled with before general relativity came along. Im 95% sure we would still not have not discovered general relativity if einstein never existed.

>> No.15207091

>>15202188
Relativity you retard

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>>15202188

Beucause it is a myth born out of the "lone scientist genius" when science is a collaborative effort.

A similar myth exist in art where there is the same romantic idea of the artists genious who seem to posses a spark of divinity when they actually copy, learn and inspire from each other.

It's the same romantized normie dream.

>> No.15207118

>>15204195
>I thought Einstein was the one who created the first proper theory that described a lot about how space works without using aether.
https://mathshistory.st-andrews.ac.uk/Extras/Einstein_ether/

Recapitulating, we may say that according to the general theory of relativity space is endowed with physical qualities; in this sense, therefore, there exists an ether. According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable; for in such space there not only would be no propagation of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space and time (measuring-rods and clocks), nor therefore any space-time intervals in the physical sense.

>> No.15207256

>>15207118
Oh my, look on the clock,
schizo time

>> No.15207492

>>15203914
But most pictures just feature the face. The ratling only looks funny when places next to humans.

>> No.15207497

think carefully about his name, it'll click.

>> No.15207501

>>15207107
Right is better but the trousers on left are fantastic.

>> No.15207558

>>15203617
No it was not. When Schrodinger gave a lecture on wave mechanics, Heisenburg challenged him because he didn't think waves explained it but rather matrices did. He did so in public front of everyone. I have been to conferences where someone stood up in an auditorium with about 800 people in it and publicly accused the presenter of stealing their work. Scientists can be vicious especially if they think someone was stealing their work.

>> No.15209160

>>15207558
This. Not necessarily stealing though. Just working in a similar thing is sometimes enough to make people seethe and fear losing their "territory". It's fucking funny seeing everyone shot their pants when you're not involved, but especially seasoned scientists can be huge assholes.

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lmao at the jidf jannies desperately running interference for their hebrew hero in this itt thread.

>> No.15210014

>>15203923
explain in your own words what the photoelectric effect is and its implications without opening a single other tab. i will know if you did

>> No.15210095

>>15210014
/sci/ isn't for answering your homework

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>>15202188

>> No.15210314

>>15202265
correct
but poincare is still fairly famous

>> No.15210330

>>15206984
einsein was great, yes, but dude, if einstein wasnt there, Hilbert def had the chance to get GR. I dont think u know what ur talking about. The belief that without a single person, the discovery of X would not be possible is simply not true, in terms of intellectual potential.

>> No.15210363

>Why is Einstein so famous
>his work was cool and stuff

you answered your own question

>> No.15210418

>>15202188
>Feynman
Feynman is a guy who loved to write about himself. Sure he did great work in QFT, but he's no Dirac. Feynman is famous because he worked really hard to be.

>> No.15210461

Because he has become a meme, in the Dawkins sense. The general populace has no idea what he actually did, but the name "Einstein" has come to mean "smart". There really is no reason other than historical coincidence.

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>>15210286
LOL

>> No.15210559

>>15206611
Bull fucking shit. Jews had Spinoza and Minkowski. They didnt do shit for the science and arts except maybe Mahler in the arts.

>> No.15210563

>>15210559
Don't forget Magnus Hirschfeld! His contributions to gender relativity are famous today.

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>>15210563
Thank g-d his works continue inspire a new generation of world class surgeons.

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>>15204768
Oh please. There are more pictures than just that one where they are sitting/standing right next to each other. You know what the simplest explanation for that is? They got along. Moreover, there are quotes from Lorentz complimenting Einstein and his theory of gravity. “Einstein has put an end to this isolation; it is now well established that gravitation affects not only matter, but also light.” “Einstein's work is to make physics more philosophical (in a good sense,” “The equations on which the theory of relativity is based are due to Lorentz, but Einstein connected them with his general principle, namely, that there must be nothing, in observable phenomena, which could be attributed to absolute motion of the observer.” All from Lorentz’s book titled “THE EINSTEIN THEORY OF RELATIVITY”

>> No.15211730

>>15202188
When will chuds learn that German socialist jews are the best of the best?