How does /sci/ explain the incredible architecture of ancient civilizations?

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Anonymous Tue Jan 31 22:30:42 2023 No.15167887 [Reply] [Original]

How does /sci/ explain the incredible architecture of ancient civilizations?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 22:35:29 2023 No.15167899 modern tools are nice but math and lots and lots of manhours can make most things

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 22:40:44 2023 No.15167912 File: 286 KB, 1200x572, teo-moon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15167899 How many manhours do you need to build THIS?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 22:42:02 2023 No.15167916 >>15167887 easy, they weren't as retarded as modern people like for example you

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 22:42:55 2023 No.15167917 >>15167912 probably a lot

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 22:43:33 2023 No.15167921 File: 339 KB, 1024x683, teo-stones.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15167912

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 22:48:23 2023 No.15167929 >>15167887 They were smarter than us

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 22:49:27 2023 No.15167930 File: 260 KB, 1000x718, tiahuanaco-21.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] They were bored I guess.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 22:50:29 2023 No.15167933 File: 285 KB, 1000x667, tiahuanaco-22.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15167930

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 22:51:21 2023 No.15167935 >>15167917 At least 3 hours, that's for sure. Each one of those stones weights more than 5 big macs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 22:51:48 2023 No.15167936 File: 190 KB, 880x720, Puma-Punku-10.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15167933

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 22:52:52 2023 No.15167940 File: 190 KB, 1000x525, PP-H.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15167936

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 22:54:03 2023 No.15167944 File: 387 KB, 1200x712, punkuholes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15167940 How did they do this?

Anonymous Tue Jan 31 22:58:29 2023 No.15167955

>>15167944
South American indian legends say one day "beings from the sky" came down and built an entire city in 3 days. The city also had a glass pyramid. Then one day an earthquake destroyed the pyramid, so they just left.

In short, it was probably nephilim and fallen angels.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 23:05:24 2023 No.15167975 File: 191 KB, 1000x580, mapi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Machu Picchu is amazing

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 23:06:32 2023 No.15167979 File: 239 KB, 1000x750, machu-picchu-terraces.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15167975

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 23:07:36 2023 No.15167982 File: 340 KB, 1200x735, Temple-of-the-Three-Windows.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15167979 look at the precision of the blocks

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 23:08:40 2023 No.15167985 File: 387 KB, 1175x800, suntemple.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15167982

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 23:09:47 2023 No.15167988 File: 133 KB, 800x533, tomb-machu-picchu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15167985 they just loved stuffing stones wherever they could. too much time on their hand I guess.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 23:11:19 2023 No.15167992 File: 325 KB, 1000x598, moontemple.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15167988

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 23:12:20 2023 No.15167995 File: 202 KB, 700x471, masonry.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15167992 primitive methods.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 23:25:18 2023 No.15168015 >>15167995 water and thousands of years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 23:56:15 2023 No.15168079 >>15168015 You answered the wrong question. The question you answered is: why/how did we forget? >water and thousands of years. About one comet's worth of water, and about 14 thousand years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 23:58:24 2023 No.15168081 File: 153 KB, 1000x667, Ollantaytambo02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] another stone complex

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 31 23:59:26 2023 No.15168084 File: 429 KB, 1202x800, Ollantaytambo03.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15168081

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 00:00:30 2023 No.15168086 File: 225 KB, 1000x558, Ollantaytambo04.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15168084 primitive methods again

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 00:01:32 2023 No.15168088 File: 186 KB, 660x740, Ollantaytambo05.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15168086

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 00:02:49 2023 No.15168091 File: 263 KB, 1067x800, Ollantaytambo06.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15168088 ???

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 00:03:54 2023 No.15168094 File: 177 KB, 1000x545, Ollantaytambo08.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15168091

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 02:00:46 2023 No.15168369 >>15167887 >Stone Age people were experts at working with stone after thousands of years of practice/refinement Yup, what a mystery.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 02:25:26 2023 No.15168431

Moving big stones isnt very difficult if you have a bunch of people. Typically done by rolling them on a bunch of logs and pushing or pulling. Smothing stones isnt hard. Pretty sure this is done with sand and water? Not sure the exact common method. Carving is done with stone chisels and hitting the rocks. Now have a couple thousand people and have them all work on it. Doing all this stuff.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 02:26:21 2023 No.15168432 >>15167887 >incredible architecture of ancient civilizations? Wow! They could stack rocks! OMG! KANGS!

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 03:30:43 2023 No.15168576 >>15168091 >>15168088 Thanks for dumping these, very interesting, although you'd have more success on /his/

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 04:08:10 2023 No.15168677 >>15167944 Anon has never seen a spindle drill or bat dung concrete before.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 04:13:28 2023 No.15168684 >>15167887 Kino watching material https://youtu.be/j9w-i5oZqaQ

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 04:24:51 2023 No.15168702 >>15167887 https://odysee.com/@musicam-geometria-utebantur:6/pyramid-power-rap:4 Geopoly

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 04:25:12 2023 No.15168703 Effects resulting from long term changes in planet size and gravity strength along with large scale interplanetary electrical discharges. S.W. Carey, Expanding Earth Theory https://youtu.be/Othb0xsvZb4

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 04:49:55 2023 No.15168749 >>15168086 "Primitive" doesn't mean stupid, or necessarily even unsophisticated.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:10:07 2023 No.15168767 File: 137 KB, 1024x676, GHDY51EAAVT0GBFI.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15167887 Architecture? All I see are natural rock formations.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:12:05 2023 No.15168770 >>15167887 It was obviously built by aliens

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:12:19 2023 No.15168771 >>15168767 Here's a natural rock formation in Pennsylvania. Notice how natural and very naturally formed it is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:13:22 2023 No.15168774 File: 184 KB, 1280x720, boxcar_rocks.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15168771 Fuck, forgot the pic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:14:50 2023 No.15168775 File: 335 KB, 1280x720, natural_wall.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15168774 Here's a naturally formed wall in Montana. Clearly the natural work of glaciers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:16:36 2023 No.15168777 These pyramids were built by the Predators for their Alien hunts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C15Ycikk0fc

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:26:31 2023 No.15168798 File: 1.09 MB, 1029x766, turbine.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:32:10 2023 No.15168811 >>15168798 you don't actually think that's a turbine, do you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:34:09 2023 No.15168816 >>15168798 It's made from stone, which means it's actually a fossilized turbine made by dino civilization.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:36:46 2023 No.15168818 File: 122 KB, 800x529, gornaya_shoria.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15168767

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:39:59 2023 No.15168821 >>15168818 That's not real.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:41:10 2023 No.15168822 >>15168821 It's real. It's a favorite of the regional Russian hiking group so you can find a lot of pictures of it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:44:35 2023 No.15168828 >>15167887 Fitting stones is extremely easy, we (by we i mean I) can do the same with moving parts.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:44:47 2023 No.15168829

>>15167912
You could just make it so people do monthly/yearly pilgrimages to your sacred site and bring a rock or two with them. If its a multigenerational effort it would inevitably occur. Pyramids are really just layer by layer, maybe each layer took decades to build.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:45:53 2023 No.15168831 >>15167940 Hhhhhhhnnnngggg

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:47:25 2023 No.15168834 File: 2.28 MB, 1920x1080, montana_megaliths.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15167887 What are they hiding from us?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:49:11 2023 No.15168837 >>15168831 >t. vax'd

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:49:47 2023 No.15168838

>>15168829
These civilizations were short lived, they didn't do things that took many generations. Almost all cities had to be abandoned because farmlands get depleted when doing grain agriculture. An exception to this was Egyptian civilization thanks to the Nile bringing more than water.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:50:11 2023 No.15168839 >>15168834 A global society that was wiped out during the Great Flood.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:54:09 2023 No.15168844 File: 1.29 MB, 1374x767, gears.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15168811

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:54:47 2023 No.15168845 >>15168844 that "gear" wouldn't work. you have zero mechanical sense.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:57:41 2023 No.15168851 File: 1.20 MB, 1261x767, gear.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15168845

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:58:11 2023 No.15168853 >>15168851 another decorative carving, not a machine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 05:58:41 2023 No.15168854 >>15167912 you get like six villagers clanking hammers around the perimeter and it goes up in 90 seconds according to age of empires 2

>>	bodhi Wed Feb 1 06:03:51 2023 No.15168859 >>15168834 https://ugetube.com/watch/ending-the-kali-yuga-return-of-the-brahman_dJjmIzXeVkuJCDT.html

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 06:04:56 2023 No.15168863 >>15167887 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5kU0sND9Ww

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 06:05:13 2023 No.15168864 File: 533 KB, 1200x1495, tree_stump.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15168816 The ancient Earth must have been a sight to behold.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 06:18:49 2023 No.15168876 File: 1.75 MB, 1920x1080, yangshan_quarry.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15168829 Those ancient civilizations sure needed a lot of stone.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 06:23:10 2023 No.15168884 Go back to /x/

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 06:24:50 2023 No.15168889 File: 1.18 MB, 649x937, bring_a_rock_or_two.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15168829 >bring a rock or two with them

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 06:32:13 2023 No.15168897 >>15167887 Slaves and men of high vision and virtue

>>	bodhi Wed Feb 1 06:35:12 2023 No.15168901 >>15168889 check out a jewtube channel called megolithomaniaUK https://www.youtube.com/user/MegalithomaniaUK YW

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 06:39:33 2023 No.15168905 >>15168884 Go back to somewhere that cares about your down votes.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 06:46:27 2023 No.15168914

>>15167887
there is a reason minecraft is so popular, there have always been a subset of humans obsessed with putting stone blocks ontop of other stone blocks, put enough of the most dedicated block-stacking autists together and they make stuff like this, it really isn't rocket science

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 06:51:27 2023 No.15168921 >>15168897 What is the high vision and how do rock piles contribute to fulfilling such visions?

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 06:56:03 2023 No.15168925

>>15167887
watch "ancient aliens debunked" on youtube; the guy shows you things you've never heard of before and it all makes sense

what has never been explained is how all these various ANCIENT places around the world all have the same or very very similar construction

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 06:59:28 2023 No.15168930

>>15168921
Not that anon, but as far as I can tell, it sounds like being able to see things that can't be actually seen like stacking rocks in particular ways to manipulate acoustic geometry for things like echo chambers, whispering galleries, and amphitheaters.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 07:00:50 2023 No.15168932 >>15168925 Piles of rock are common?

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 07:03:22 2023 No.15168933

>>15168921
Making something that will last and cause wonder for all the ages, an art form that represents your triumph over the physical plane while you were still alive, it worked didn't it, you're here talking about it still and subtly seething.

They created something of spectacle and wonder, thousnds of years later and modern humans like yourself who consider themselves all wise and all knowing still ponder how it was done, contrast this against yourself, a nobody faggot who has accomplished nothing but scoffs at "piled rocks" on a vietnamese cartoon imageboard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 07:05:18 2023 No.15168935 >>15167887 Authoritarianism and Slavery.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 07:12:00 2023 No.15168943

>>15168933
>still ponder how it was done
Stacking rocks is trivial to do now, its more like wondering how street lamps were lit without electricity, its so unnecessarily complex compared to modern tech that it makes modern people take pause in contemplating the complexity underlying simple process that have become effortless with modern tech.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 07:22:48 2023 No.15168949
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>>15167887
>How does /sci/ explain the incredible architecture of ancient civilizations?

Videos like pic related shows you that alot of it comes down time, planning and skill of craftsman vs scale of man power.

Two men are able to carve/sculpt underground homes and build over ground homes around a hundred days or so.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 07:25:51 2023 No.15168957 >>15168925 That's no joke. You won't get answers on /sci/, though.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 07:35:14 2023 No.15168966

>>15168933
I have accomplished things. I am an engineer, i have designed and built machines that work and they are far more impressive than any pile of rocks.
As to how to pile and shape rocks: Hammer, chisel, ropes and pulleys. Not hard at all and large scale slavery isnt impressive at all, you seem upset that other people are not sharing in your infantile admiration of big rock

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 07:37:41 2023 No.15168967 >>15168949 Its not two men, its like 12 and they have a bulldozer and funding so they can work all day without worrying about paying for life expenses

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 07:39:34 2023 No.15168969

>>15168925
>>15168957
Well, I've heard theories that there was a global maritime culture in the ice age. That could explain them all having the same building knowledge, as well as shit like blonde mummies all over the world and legends of blonde-bearded blue-eyed people teaching their ancestors things. It's entirely possible.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 07:50:57 2023 No.15168976

>>15168967
>they can work all day without worrying about paying for life expensnes

Which would be no different than soldiers working for the government. There are certain services that require a 24/7 work lifestyle and be constantly on call.

For jobs like that you wouldn't worry about life "expenses" because your life effectively belongs to the State.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 07:51:59 2023 No.15168977

>>15168949
>Two men are able to carve/sculpt underground homes and build over ground homes around a hundred days or so.
/sci/ "deboonkers" are unironically midwit enough to fall for these scams lmao. These guys are literally making concrete castings in the jungle. An expose was done on them and someone actually went to the land they use and saw their power tools and excavators.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 07:53:00 2023 No.15168979 >>15168976 You missed the part where this is done with massive power diggers and concrete. It's not really primitive, it's all made up for gullible people like you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 07:56:41 2023 No.15168982 >>15168977 >>15168979 So where's link to the article or video exposing them as frauds?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 07:59:28 2023 No.15168986 >>15168982 Try this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvk63LADbFc

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 08:43:50 2023 No.15169037
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>>15168986
So about 30% of the construction is actually done by hand while 70% is machine aided? Based on the video it also seems to point to a time discrepancy. With the videos saying 100 days vs the emails citing 3 day construction period.

So my question to this video would be what's the actual feasible time scale and man power necessary to do those constructions without machines? Because while they cite the Primitive Technology Australian channel as legitimate in methodology/time. The constructions the other channels from South East Asia are doing which apparently "fake" are emulating the rock cut architecture akin to the Temples of India or Churches of Ethopia which aren't products of modern technology and machinery.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 08:51:48 2023 No.15169049 >>15167899 True, too bad historians are bad at math and don't know shit about logistics, leading to absurd claims and ridiculous chronologies.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 08:54:06 2023 No.15169053 >>15168969 makes more sense than the mainstream view anyway is that from hancock?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 09:19:46 2023 No.15169080 >>15169053 He is probably the biggest name attached to the idea, yes. Randall's atlantis theory is pretty good, imo; it certainly gives us a source for the maritime culture.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 11:50:42 2023 No.15169241 File: 161 KB, 800x469, Hatunrumiyoc1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] primitive masonry in the middle of a city

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 11:51:46 2023 No.15169243 File: 105 KB, 660x500, Hatunrumiyoc2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15169241

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 11:52:52 2023 No.15169246 File: 150 KB, 660x370, stone12.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15169243 this stone has 12 angles, everything fits perfectly

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 11:57:19 2023 No.15169252 File: 363 KB, 1800x578, Sacsayhuaman-28.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15169246 site near the city

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 11:58:21 2023 No.15169258 File: 353 KB, 1280x638, Sacsayhuaman-27.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15169252

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 11:59:23 2023 No.15169261 File: 269 KB, 1200x800, Sacsayhuaman-30.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15169258

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 12:00:25 2023 No.15169263 File: 186 KB, 1000x617, Sacsayhuaman-29.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15169261

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 12:01:23 2023 No.15169265 >>15169241 B-but, it's sup-p-posed to be really hard! The aliens did it! The aliens did it!

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 12:02:18 2023 No.15169268 File: 99 KB, 660x345, superstones.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15169263 they fucking loved making jigsaw from heavy ass stones

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 12:04:09 2023 No.15169271 >>15167887 ancient whites

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:00:17 2023 No.15169407 >>15167887 >ancient architecture How do you think science and math got started my dude? What the fuck

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:13:59 2023 No.15169430 >>15167944 By grinding with some hard cylindrical object and some extra abrasive

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:21:48 2023 No.15169439 File: 281 KB, 828x714, 1669913454053.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15167887 i.. cant.... so... it must be....... aliens............

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:22:50 2023 No.15169441 >>15167988 damn that's fucking cool!

>>	Jealous Wed Feb 1 13:23:22 2023 No.15169444 laser cutters and antigravity lifters

>>	Jealous Wed Feb 1 13:23:56 2023 No.15169445 File: 61 KB, 575x500, TIMESAND___2SameSNEED.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15169444

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:27:23 2023 No.15169452 [DELETED]

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>>15167985
funny how you can see the quality of the stonework decline as the tower rises. you can see how their society was decaying over time because of their leadership's unwise economic decision making.
>lets waste all the excess resources trying to reach god
familiar tale, a very low iq one, up there with chicken little

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 13:43:37 2023 No.15169482 File: 635 KB, 2048x1536, Hünengrab_bei_Drosa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15167887 it's a lot of work an needs manpoer but it's not rocket science why do yout think it's called "stone age"

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 14:05:21 2023 No.15169514 >>15167887 https://youtu.be/WAyQQRNoQaE

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 15:08:04 2023 No.15169597 >>15169452 or a later culture tried to ape them

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:22:32 2023 No.15169827 >>15169452 The Incas discovered the original site in ruins thousands of years later, then built on top of it using their comparatively shitty construction techniques, which involved using stones small enough for people to actually carry.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:24:57 2023 No.15169832 >>15169514 The tube drills were what clinched it for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFuf-gBuuno

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:39:23 2023 No.15169846 >>15169832 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9w-i5oZqaQ @26:00, watch for a minute

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 17:40:39 2023 No.15169848

>>15167887
Humans have an instinctive desire for order and beauty. However, eventually we got to the point where order and beauty were too easy. We wanted change for the sake of change, and now we can't stop ourselves from constantly making things worse just to be different.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:05:35 2023 No.15169887 >>15169846 I watched. The video I linked addresses the tube drill deboonking in detail. Just a question, have you ever done any manual labor like cutting through a tree branch with a handsaw?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:07:11 2023 No.15169895 >>15169887 yes

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:17:49 2023 No.15169910

>>15169895
Ok, and in your opinion it would still be no problem to cut if you replace the steel saw blade with a blade made of copper/bronze of about 1/4 the hardness, and replace the the tree branch with solid rock?

Do you think you could cut through a tree branch with a wooden saw? Because supposedly the saw they were using to cut with was either equal or lesser hardness than the material they were cutting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:19:55 2023 No.15169915 >>15169846 Your deboonking has been debunked way too many times for anyone pushing it to be taken seriously.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:20:57 2023 No.15169917 >>15169910 its not comparable I have no idea how hard it is to cut through stone (and there are different kinds of stone) with sand and a copper implement, neither do you >>15169915 ok, you guys are just shilling then

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:23:49 2023 No.15169921 >>15169917 shilling what?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:38:50 2023 No.15169948 >>15169846 Hey anon, watch from 22 minutes in >>15169832

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:49:46 2023 No.15169958 >>15169948 its horseshit they show guys literally doing it with copper and sand also >australian accent blegh

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:52:10 2023 No.15169963 >>15169958 Why can't your soft copper drillls and sand explain the spiral grooves in granite cores?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:55:26 2023 No.15169968 >>15169963 I don't know that they can't

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:57:05 2023 No.15169971 >>15169968 Do you know anything?

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 18:57:54 2023 No.15169972

>>15167912
That was something like 150 years
>>15167930
People actually don't know how that site looked. What you see today is just what some archeologists in the 80's is mostly put together from the stones found in the side. It was in shambles for a long even at the time of the Inca.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:03:31 2023 No.15169988 >>15169971 I know I'm wasting my time on 4chan, but I'm starving for things to read and the world is shit at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:07:45 2023 No.15170005 >>15169988 Ok, so why not explore the mystery of the spiral cut grooves in granite? You could read Christopher Dunn's work?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:09:05 2023 No.15170012 >>15170005 doesnt seem like a mystery to me show me a video of them using the copper tubes with sand and see what kind of grooves, if any, that makes and then we'll see

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:10:56 2023 No.15170016 >>15170012 You literally posted a video with the pbs guys doing just that? Do you not even watch your sources?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:14:20 2023 No.15170024 >>15170016 no, I didnt they were using copper saws with sand, they only showed a picture of the tube set-up

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:15:56 2023 No.15170027 >>15170016 Deboonkers just get a sheet of links and dogma to shill. Familiarity with the concept isn't a job requirement.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:19:36 2023 No.15170042 >>15170024 If you know so little about the videoss you are posting then why the hell are you posting them?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:20:43 2023 No.15170048 >>15170042 I just told you what's in the video, are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:23:14 2023 No.15170054 File: 144 KB, 618x597, b57.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >it has smooth edges >cannot be explained by science >evidence of aliens

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:24:13 2023 No.15170055 File: 48 KB, 389x292, 1675279444657.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15167887 Why are so many /x/ schizos on this board?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:25:45 2023 No.15170060 >>15170048 But you posted that video specifically referencing te PBS experiment were they spent two days using a copper saw and tube drill I assumed you must actually be familiar with the topic?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:27:35 2023 No.15170066 >>15170055 Why do you label people questioning the outlandish official explanations for ancient artefacts as /x/?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:27:35 2023 No.15170065 >>15170054 Nobody even mentioned aliens lmao. This is done by people. Ancient, fairly advanced people but still people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:30:38 2023 No.15170073 >>15170066 why are they outlandish? sure you can argue that archaeology's grip on pre-history is shaky, but that doesn't mean your hypotheticals about ancient advanced civilizations that use alien toys is in any way scientific

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:31:51 2023 No.15170077 >>15170073 >alien toys There's that thought-terminating cliche again. Why is it that only shills argue that people believe it was aliens?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:34:22 2023 No.15170082 >>15170077 Because even mainstream alt-prehistory people like Hancock argue that Egyptians somehow used mind-levitating powers to lift rocks into the air.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:35:36 2023 No.15170083 >>15170082 Who here is arguing that? Give me a quick survey.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:39:20 2023 No.15170092
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>>15170073
Anon I'm just asking for an explanation for these spiral grooves cut into granite? If the only explanation the mainstream can put out is how it must be made by copper drills with sand as an abrasive then I'm afraid the only reaction is that this explanation is outlandish.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:39:46 2023 No.15170093 >>15170082 >mainstream alt-prehistory people >the most credible of the crackpots holy shit my sides

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:58:31 2023 No.15170134 >>15169514 Copper chisels and abrasive rubbing, no fucking way

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 19:59:06 2023 No.15170135 >>15169832 Good vid, thanks anon, learnt something on /sci/ for once. https://www.gizapower.com/petrie.html

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 20:05:54 2023 No.15170145

Breeding giants is consider a violation of
- the Code of Hammurabi
- the Book of Thoth
however it is clear that if you breed giants and use various simple methods based on rock cutting using water and acoustic vibration, you can cut and lift rocks precisely
we could literally make a video game about it
it wouldn't be all that complicated, possibly even a decent simulation of electromagnetic effects
there is a guy on yt who cuts circular holes in rocks using metal, water, and acoustic vibration
it's the
>getting giant beasts of burden to lift the rocks
that is immoral and destabilizing

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 20:12:32 2023 No.15170157 File: 28 KB, 968x126, nephilim.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170145

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 20:22:08 2023 No.15170173

>>15170082
I don think theres any mistery, just a lot of labor and pulleys, i like the idea of canals with floaters and gates you use to lift objects on boats by filling them with water to raise them.
Im still intrigues by these tubes with spiral grooves

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 20:37:20 2023 No.15170192 >>15168949 Videos like that one are usually faked. They use a lot of modern machinery.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 20:45:08 2023 No.15170207 >>15170145 >that is immoral and destabilizing For you.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 20:50:01 2023 No.15170216

>>15170173
>just a lot of labor and pulleys,
Mainstream archaeology doesn't believe they'd invented the wheel at that time, so no pulleys. Supposedly, everything was piled on sleds and pushed/pulled up wooden ramps. Never mind that each stone was about 2.5 tons, with the stones above the King's chamber each weighing over 70 tons. Essentially, we are told to believe that the pyramids were constructed by cavepeople with no technology other than rocks and clay.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 20:52:04 2023 No.15170222 don't you love how the aliens are always brought up only by people trying to ridicule the others

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 20:52:22 2023 No.15170224 >>15170157 I always found the term "giants" to be a rather dishonest translation of a Hebrew word literally meaning "fallen ones".

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 21:05:29 2023 No.15170251 >>15170224 It's a reference to the Septuagint which translated it into γίγαντες which is Giants.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 21:10:11 2023 No.15170262 >>15170251 In particular, the Septuagint translation is chosen over the modern Hebrew because the Septuagint was written by practicing Jews 2,300 years ago who were bilingual. It reflects the ancient understanding of the word.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 21:46:52 2023 No.15170335

>>15170262
>because the Septuagint was written by practicing Jews 2,300 years ago who were bilingual
Allegedly. However, if you look into the history of the Septuigant, you'll find out that by the time of Origen there were many copies with a variety of errors and even different versions with their own passages. Origen of Alexandria had to reconcile these and referred to the Hebrew at his time (Isaiah in the Masoretic texts are nearly identical to the Dead Sea Scrolls). Later Lucian also came across similar problems. One of which is that the Septuagint claims Methuselah lived 14 years after the flood when the only Noah, his wife, his three sons, and their wives were the only ones to survive; a problem not in the Hebrew at the time. There were severe problems with the Septuagint and everyone knew it, preferring Hebrew unless they needed a quick translation into Greek or could read Hebrew.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 21:50:14 2023 No.15170339 >>15170262 >jews There's your answer. They were literally enslaved. Who knows what kind of Jew magic they used to lift those blocks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 21:58:47 2023 No.15170356 >>15170339 >They were literally enslaved never happened

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:03:53 2023 No.15170369 File: 230 KB, 1200x669, Baalbek-050.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the Temple of Bacchus in Lebanon. they say it was built in the 1st century.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:04:59 2023 No.15170372 File: 167 KB, 1170x578, Baalbek-042.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170369 it looks like giants have built it

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:06:01 2023 No.15170374 File: 116 KB, 640x427, Baalbek-036.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170372 300 tons

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:07:54 2023 No.15170378 File: 147 KB, 870x463, Baalbek-pregnant-007.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170374 a 1000-ton block, some 800 metres away from the temple

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:08:05 2023 No.15170379 >>15170369 >>15170372 Concrete and casted.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:08:56 2023 No.15170382 File: 169 KB, 1000x533, Baalbek-pregnant-009.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170378 another one

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:09:26 2023 No.15170383 >>15170339 >>15170356 >enslaves Hebrews were ruled by Egypt in Cnaan when Cnaan was controlled by Egypt, it isnt like they lived in proper Egypt.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:10:05 2023 No.15170385 >>15170379 Impossible. Blocks have been found attached to the rock they were quarried from.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:11:59 2023 No.15170391 >>15170378 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateran_Obelisk#:~:text=The%20Lateran%20Obelisk%20is%20the,tonnes%20(330%20short%20tons). These stones are in the same weight class as Egyptian obelisks. Some were shipped to Europe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:12:13 2023 No.15170393 File: 279 KB, 1000x700, Baalbek-wall-001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170382 behind that man is a layer consisting of blocks weighing 350 ton each. on top of it is a layer of three 800-ton blocks.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:15:43 2023 No.15170408

>>15170393
Really goes to show how cringe modern humans are. I mean no amount of money can buy you a handyman that isn't some retarded nigger or redback that can barely finish drywall or lay tile. My teenage nephew could probably do that shit better in just a few days. Anyway, it's no surprise we can't even lift some fucking stones and stack them like lego.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:15:48 2023 No.15170409 File: 887 KB, 618x892, obelisk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170393 Obelisks are moved just fine with ropes, ramps and boats, same weight class

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:18:59 2023 No.15170417 >>15170408 >Anyway, it's no surprise we can't even lift some fucking stones and stack them like lego. Bridges are often made by lifting heavy pilons and hammering them into the soil. These are precast and can weigh thousands of tons

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:19:25 2023 No.15170419
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>>15170393
The foundation stones of the Western wall in Jerusalem are enormous as well. The Western wall was built on top of the ruins of a much more ancient structure.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:21:45 2023 No.15170426 >>15170419 I can't believe that jewish scholars spend hours hip thrusting at this thing.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:21:46 2023 No.15170427

>>15170417
What? Not they're not. That's completely wrong. Bridge footings in the modern era are made either by building a coffer dam and pouring directly onto bedrock or by building a coffer dam and pounding hundreds of metal pylons into the ground and casting the footing on top of it. Concrete is not suited for that kind of force.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:23:17 2023 No.15170430 File: 237 KB, 1000x625, aw01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] a temple in the city of Angkor, Cambodia

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:24:18 2023 No.15170433 File: 124 KB, 660x442, aw03.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170430

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:25:19 2023 No.15170436 File: 227 KB, 1000x667, aw05.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170433

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:26:10 2023 No.15170437
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>>15170427
>Concrete is not suited for that kind of force.
Sure they can and the point is that they are heavy, the road sections that go on top are also heavy. These weights compare with these ancient stones at baalbek and for sure with the egyptian obelisk weights, so we can lift that kind of weight

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:26:15 2023 No.15170438 I want to see >1 single demonstration of a 1000+ ton stone moved with ropes and wood fixtures

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:26:21 2023 No.15170439 File: 155 KB, 660x702, aw08.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170436 inside

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:27:59 2023 No.15170442 File: 213 KB, 1000x584, Baphuon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170439 there's like 50 temples in that area

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:29:01 2023 No.15170446 File: 216 KB, 1000x575, Bayon01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170442 another one. they say it took them like 30 years to build all of that.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:29:16 2023 No.15170447

>>15170437
You are an actual drooling mongoloid if you think you can use a piledriver to pound concrete pillars to bedrock without fracturing them. Let alone thinking that footings use 1000-ton pilings for stability.

Yes, we can move large loads with modern technology like pulleys and the internal combustion engine. Yes, the largest cranes and winches in the world can lift 1000+ tons. Archaeologists do not claim ancient civilizations had these methods. They claim they did not even invent the pulley until thousands of years later, so referring to them as proof that they could do it is ridiculous at best.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:30:00 2023 No.15170449 File: 236 KB, 1632x1224, EQqOLpRWsAACHJ5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is the strongest crane. Its fixed, it can lift over 20.000 tons.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:30:02 2023 No.15170451 File: 97 KB, 660x371, Bayon02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170446 this one has faces

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:30:41 2023 No.15170453 >>15170446 You know what's quite interesting? Those temples have murals featuring the plumeria, which is a flower from South America. No other flowering tree of a similar shape grows in Southeast Asia.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:31:04 2023 No.15170454 File: 117 KB, 660x400, ta-keo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170451 another one

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:32:22 2023 No.15170457 File: 245 KB, 1000x640, Preah-Khan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170454 another one >>15170453 that's very interesting, do you have a picture?

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:32:54 2023 No.15170458

>>15170447
I dont know if it was you but some anon i respinded too said we cant lift that kind of weight today, and muttered something about rednecks and niggers.
Also, you can absolutely drive concrete pylons as long as you stick to the force limits, dont make me post pictures

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:33:41 2023 No.15170460 File: 177 KB, 660x630, Ta-Prohm02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170457 this one is occupied by treants

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:34:25 2023 No.15170465 >>15170458 >dont know if it was you thats the point

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:34:42 2023 No.15170466 File: 106 KB, 660x428, Ta-Prohm03.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170460

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:35:26 2023 No.15170469

>>15167887
A frog scientist, Joseph Davidovits, made a pretty solid case of how stone momuments such as the pyramids could have been made from a mixture of naturally occurring substances such as limestone, clay, sand, gravel etc mixed with water and left in simple wood molds to create "geopolymers"

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:35:43 2023 No.15170471 File: 94 KB, 660x440, stego.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170466 but weren't dinosaurs discovered in the 19th century?

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:36:13 2023 No.15170472

With modern techniques we're only able to fit two stones with straight lines between them.
I've tried to find masons to build a polygonal stone wall with naturally flowing perfect seams and no mortar and no one is able to do it. It's straight lines or nothing.
THAT's the reality of what we are capable of.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:38:01 2023 No.15170474 File: 1.98 MB, 2647x3003, Kamboja_Panataran_2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170457 >that's very interesting, do you have a picture? Not off-hand, though I do have a similar one from Indonesia.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:38:50 2023 No.15170476 >>15170469 Source

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:39:13 2023 No.15170477 >>15170469 He's been disproven by the composition of the stones. We know exactly where they were quarried.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:39:47 2023 No.15170479 >>15170477 sad

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:40:02 2023 No.15170481 >>15169263 >Sacsayhuamán >The complex was built by the Inca in the 15th century lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:41:01 2023 No.15170484 The entire quarry was a massive pit of casted stone.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:41:02 2023 No.15170485 >>15170477 They do look as if they were melted or something though. It's impossible that they were crafted to fit so perfectly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:41:22 2023 No.15170487 >>15170477 Link? Sounds interesting. I still think his geopolymer idea must have some potential viability given how simple the method is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:42:33 2023 No.15170490 File: 262 KB, 1000x675, puka-pukara-01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170481 this is how the Inca built. they were obviously trying to mimic the much older ancient style.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:42:33 2023 No.15170489 >>15170485 Many of the Egyptian stones have evidence of exposure to extreme heat but only on one of their outside surfaces, implying that they were subject to those intense heats long after construction was completed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:43:02 2023 No.15170491 File: 438 KB, 1280x1707, Oxford_cathedral_09.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How did they do it bros? Must have been aliens

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:43:34 2023 No.15170492 >>15170491 Why is it that you keep talking about aliens? Nobody here is except you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:43:35 2023 No.15170493 File: 181 KB, 800x533, Pisac01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170490

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:44:35 2023 No.15170497 >>15170485 >>15170469 Geopolymers are a fancy name for a cement based on sodium carbonate, however limestone is based on calcium carbonate so "completely different chemical element".

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:44:40 2023 No.15170499 File: 166 KB, 1000x458, Pisac02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15170493 here are the two styles in one site, one can easily see the difference

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:44:55 2023 No.15170500 >>15170492 Rather than spamming pictures, why don't you tell us all what your hypothesis is

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:46:01 2023 No.15170502 >>15167887 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KbSFphHCZY

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:47:07 2023 No.15170504

>>15170491
My thoughts exactly. You see the same shit in the field of software. Programmers are so helpless these days. Got told to use nodejs at work. Never used it before. Tried it. Thought it was gay and slow. Wrote my own HTTP server by hand in C in a couple days. No dependencies outside of the kernel.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:47:27 2023 No.15170505 >>15170500 Stop poisoning the well

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:48:36 2023 No.15170507

>>15170500
I'm not that anon, but my hypothesis is that over 12,000 years ago a society capable of ironworking and the creation of pulleys and other complex mechanisms existed and was relatively widespread across the world. If I had to put them on a spectrum I'd say they had a minimum level of sophistication around that of the Romans, with a maximum of the early to mid Industrial Revolution.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:49:18 2023 No.15170508 >>15170491 How many tons are each block?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:50:41 2023 No.15170515 >>15170507 They travelled around the world but didn't bother to do their own colombian exchange?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:52:43 2023 No.15170519 Why are there hieroglyphs in australia?

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:52:59 2023 No.15170521

>>15170515
They did. Some of the plants died out during the cataclysmic events of the Younger Dryas period but many certainly lived on until recent memory. Consider the plumeria and its symbolism in prehistorical South Asian Buddhism, despite originating in South America and not being "introduced" to the region until the Spanish arrived.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:57:02 2023 No.15170530 >>15170521 Didn't fancy taking crops or livestock like every other migratory people in history? Just one dubious record of flowers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 22:58:35 2023 No.15170535 >>15170502 TLTW they treated the joints acid mine water

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 23:01:58 2023 No.15170541 >>15170530 Of course they did. One only needs to look at the global prevalence of dogs, hogs, and chickens for more examples. You're really not making a good case for yourself with this kind of ignorance.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 23:02:06 2023 No.15170543 >>15170502 TLTW they treated the joints with acid mine water

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 23:08:03 2023 No.15170551

>>15170541
Yes, around the old world, and we have a fairly good idea of the timeline of their spread. But weirdly we don't find turkeys or potatoes or corn in the old world until the columbian exchange, and we don't find sheep and pigs and wheat in the new world until the columbian exchange.

At best there is tentative and fairly inconclusive genetic evidence that chickens may have arrived in south america via contact with pacific islanders but we're still talking AD, not 12k years ago.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 23:14:03 2023 No.15170564

>>15170551
There are boar-sized tayassuids, a suid cousin, in the new world. The new world also has its own shearable animals and food crops adapted to the climate and importation of old world specimens such as sheep is logically unnecessary and even counterproductive.

You're free to believe whatever you want absent any proof of your claims, but you have nothing to back your argument up but ignorance of the facts. Playing dumb to get a "gotcha" just isn't possible from your position.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 23:19:55 2023 No.15170576 >>15170543 Any info on this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 23:20:55 2023 No.15170582 >>15170576 watch the video, the creator linked a paper

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 23:25:08 2023 No.15170595

>>15170564
>Although they resemble pigs at first glance, the peccary (Tyassuidae) and pig (Suidae) families diverged about 37 million years ago
Might have to put the timeline of your imaginary civilisation back a bit there m8

My "position" is that there is no evidence of Hancock mongs' civilisation and that there is a massive lack of evidence of what you would expect to see were it real.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 23:26:29 2023 No.15170598 >>15170595 Your position is quite baseless then I'm afraid. It's embarrassing to see you flail around like this. All you have is disingenuous accusations of belief in aliens and ignorant assumptions about things we already have ample proof for.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 23:28:06 2023 No.15170602 >>15168079 no the question i answered is why the stones are so smooth at the connections, it's water and time causing that

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 23:28:43 2023 No.15170605 >>15170598 You've presented no proof of any pre-columbian exchange of species whatsoever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 23:30:00 2023 No.15170610 >>15170605 None that satisfied your deficient curiosity, but you know the old saying about throwing pearls before swine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 23:33:09 2023 No.15170616 >>15169037 is that all a single rock? holy fuck

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 23:33:11 2023 No.15170617 >>15170610 Feel free to post what you think is the most convincing evidence of pre-columbian species exchange

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 23:34:54 2023 No.15170623 >>15170616 at first glance, it appears to be carved into the bedrock

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 23:34:59 2023 No.15170624 >>15169268 i would give so much to be able to watch primitive grugs stacking these huge fucks while thinking to themselfs ahah that will show these future soi bois whos the real man

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 23:35:41 2023 No.15170627

>>15170617
Widespread religious and artistic use of the plumeria in a region where it is thought to have never existed, even millions of years ago, is the strongest biological proof. At least if you're not counting the precolumbian skeletons with European genetic ancestry. Humans do count as a species after all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 23:37:43 2023 No.15170635 >>15170627 I looked for plumeria evidence when you posted it at first, I could find nothing that suggests anything pre-columbian, any papers on this? or the skeletons?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 23:42:41 2023 No.15170642 >>15170635 A photograph of one of the temple carvings is posted in this thread. It can all be found quite easily.

Anonymous Wed Feb 1 23:43:46 2023 No.15170644
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>>15170082
>mind-levitating powers

I think it's acoustic levitation. You can also use acoustics to cut stone, with combined with a soft copper blade and some abrasive sand. If you produce a tone that resonates with your saw, you essentially create a vibro saw like that which is commonly used in modern day construction, but powered by sound/instruments.

The man who built coral castle was reported by peeping toms to "sing to the stone" before he moved them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 1 23:49:57 2023 No.15170657 >>15170642 Which post? Having actually bothered to do some research it turns out there is a native Asian plant (Magnolia champaca) which looks similar, so much so that name for the plumeria in local languages derives from it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 00:08:18 2023 No.15170693 >>15170657 and it turns out thats the plant mentioned in hindu and buddhist scripture so thats that cleared up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 00:28:03 2023 No.15170744 they obviously had power tools. see the long cuts on egyptian stones that veer off for a while before correcting. you dont chisel that long of a cut incorrectly before adjusting. only happens if you have something cut really fast.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 00:29:42 2023 No.15170750 >>15170744 There are also lathe tooling marks on the granite pots and bowls found in the deepest strata of Egyptian sites. Thorough engineering analysis showed that it could only have been produced on a mechanical lathe with steel tooling.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 01:11:04 2023 No.15170823 So when are you niggers going to find a real demonstration (or make one yourself) of how to build these nigger huts since you all are so intimate with niggerology?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 02:00:42 2023 No.15170926 >>15167887 200 years and people will be confused how we built mega cities

Anonymous Thu Feb 2 02:46:15 2023 No.15170978
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>>15170426
There's also this giant slab of rock underneath the Al Aqsa mosque, which the Arabs built on what was originally the location of the Ark of the Covenant.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 02:51:09 2023 No.15170982 File: 270 KB, 993x1194, 5856334.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] We are watching

Anonymous Thu Feb 2 03:21:50 2023 No.15171011

>>15169246
Yeah it fits "perfect" because each block had its upper surface recarved after being laid in order to accept the next block. These things weren't ordered in from china and assembled on site lmao, custom fit with no regard for consistency is easy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 03:24:23 2023 No.15171016 >>15170092 Step 1: verify that the groove is actually a spiral and some guy isn't just winging thread around a scratched core.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 03:28:34 2023 No.15171021 >>15170449 Damn, over twenty tonnes???

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 03:43:00 2023 No.15171041 >>15170823 Still waiting on you niggers to give real evidence.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 03:44:17 2023 No.15171045 >>15170978 You obviously didn't watch Indiana Jones.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 05:44:03 2023 No.15171197 >>15168966 C'mon mate, as an engineer it has to be at least somewhat impressive to make those things with chisels, hammers, ropes, pulleys and manpower AND having them last so long because stone.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 05:49:04 2023 No.15171210 >>15171197 no man, his ego has been triggered theres nothing you can say to make him reasonable

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 06:31:07 2023 No.15171258 File: 2.61 MB, 1385x848, Screenshot 2022-10-10 at 23-59-48 inca stone wall 1 thousand results found on Yandex Images.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 06:33:39 2023 No.15171266 >>15170982 google gives no results

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 07:40:18 2023 No.15171322 >>15170391 >Some were shipped to Europe. Impossible, aliens must have done it

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 12:19:11 2023 No.15171598 File: 77 KB, 1280x720, 0838B190-D604-477D-B7FE-6DAC4A238B45.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15167887 You mean you can't stock some rocks, Anon?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 12:49:49 2023 No.15171650 >>15171041 Guess you niggers aren't as smart as you claim. Too bad. We can now dispose of all your theories since you can't even nigger rig something to show.

Anonymous Thu Feb 2 13:22:12 2023 No.15171709

>>15170216
Never forget, stone cannot be carbon dated, and oldest human homosapien found is 900,000 years old. I think it is far more likely our history is not as linear as we think. If we got rocked by an asteroid right now all evidence of our civilization would be gone in just a few thousand years. Even sooner with mega tsunamis.
And there's evidence of mega tsunamis occurred in the past all over the world.

Humanity needs to get its shit together or else we're fucked and there will be no trace left of our civilization either in 6000-12000 years.

"It's like we're arguing what radio to put on while we're parked in the middle of the train tracks."

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 13:24:54 2023 No.15171713 >>15171709 This. Iron tools are quick to rust and disappear. Wood rots. Who's to say the pyramid builders didn't have these things?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 13:30:08 2023 No.15171716 >>15171197 Im sorry but im just not impressed by it (the stone piles). >>15171210 You are injured and projecting. Seek help. >>15171322 First to Rome and later to London

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 14:02:50 2023 No.15171765 >>15168889 That's one very small person

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 15:13:38 2023 No.15171873 >>15171716 Anglos never built or moved anything without alien help.

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Anonymous Thu Feb 2 15:27:21 2023 No.15171906
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>>15168088
Does anyone have an explanation for these little nubs?

They're all over the world on ancient monuments and seem to be some sort of construction leftover

Almost like it's from casting

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 15:30:37 2023 No.15171918 >>15171906 That's a guide for ropes, Anon. You are correct aboit the casting. Even the Romans and Greeks had concrete.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 16:10:16 2023 No.15171999 >>15171880 Sweety, you can't just "move things", Zeno proved this thousands of years ago. Moving things can only be done with alien technology that exist beyond the bounds of human philosophy and science.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 16:11:23 2023 No.15172002 >>15171906 >>15171918 They were for interfacing with the wood frame construction that rotted/burned/etc away a long time ago.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 16:23:26 2023 No.15172015 >>15167887 Epistemologically, the scientific method cannot explain events which have taken place in the past. Instead you need to apply the deductive method.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 16:37:45 2023 No.15172038 >>15172015 Epistemologically, nothing exists outside my own mind as I perceive it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 17:16:23 2023 No.15172120 >>15171021 That's technically true

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 17:18:03 2023 No.15172123 >>15171713 Radioactive waste? ceramics?

Anonymous Thu Feb 2 18:45:27 2023 No.15172334
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>>15171713
We have ancient egyptian iron artifacts that survived thousands of years with virtually no degredation. Pic related, it's a meteroric iron dagger owned by King Tut. It's more than three thousand years old, Iron can last a very long time if you keep it dry with relatively low humidity (Egypt).

What's notable is how unique this particular dagger is, there wasn't lots of iron in that tomb, pretty much just this dagger. So while they had iron back then, it obviously wasn't very common. No metallurgical industry of their own, nor any ancient iron artifacts from previous ages. They had nothing even coming close to the later iron age civilizations.

Anonymous Thu Feb 2 19:12:17 2023 No.15172383

>>15172334
Expanding on this, it is perfectly reasonable to suppose that some elite Ancient Egyptian stone masons sometimes had access to very valuable meteoric iron tools when working with particularly hard stones. There's no evidence for this, but that doesn't mean it wasn't so.

But also, so what? To find evidence of such a thing would be interesting, but it wouldn't exactly rewrite the general course of history.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 19:22:52 2023 No.15172407 >>15172383 iron isnt even that hard to get. The vast reach of the egyptian empire absolutely had access to iron and used it regularly for their industrial endevours

Anonymous Thu Feb 2 19:29:45 2023 No.15172424

>>15171918
>guide for ropes
Lol. You're don't going to do anything with ropes given nubs like that.
>concrete
Out of Andesite? Carving hard stones (hardness of 7 or great) with only the stone age tech found through more recent South American cultures is already a problem. The same problem exists with a concrete of Andesite. That being said, there are a lot of problems in making concrete out of Andesite as it is un-ideal due to its high silica content in the modern era.
>Romans and Greeks
The iron age Romans just mined volcanic sand, lime, and gypsum (very soft) for this application.
>>15171906
>casting
Casted how? Concrete is already a big no-no. Melting is an even greater problem since Andesite has an extremely high melting temperature.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 19:31:00 2023 No.15172428 File: 610 KB, 1878x1252, minecraft-iron-ore.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15172407 >iron is not hard to get

Anonymous Thu Feb 2 19:31:38 2023 No.15172432
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>>15172407
There's no evidence that the ancient Egyptians had iron smelting, but that dagger is very suggestive of a mature meteoric iron industry. Meteoric iron is difficult to work with, even for modern experienced blacksmiths, but whoever made that dagger did an exceptionally good job. Obviously they had a lot of practice, that's not the sort of knife you just invent out of the blue one day.

Here is another Ancient Egyptian knife, the Gebel el-Arak knife. This one is about 5500 years old, already ancient by King Tut's day. It's flint napped, stone age technology. But just look at the craftmanship of this knife! This is an elite tier artifact, great practiced skill went into the manufacture of this stone knife. Egypt and the whole Mediterranean region had very sophisticated ancient cultures in which people could become true masters of very specialized crafts. This is the context you must remember when evaluating the deeply impressive structures they somehow managed to create. They weren't dumb pygmy stone-age tribesmen like you see on TV today. They had relatively simple materials to work with, but they were very smart and very capable.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 2 19:40:55 2023 No.15172465 File: 3.37 MB, 2317x3621, 75yl8f1wnlfa1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15172453

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 3 01:09:37 2023 No.15173426 >>15167940 BAH GAWD IT'S TWO TRIPLE H'S, OR SEXTUPLE H

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 3 02:08:41 2023 No.15173617 >>15169246 junichiro, you have been tasked to sort boulders for optimal fit for five years while the lord rapes your sisters, and if you fail your lot will be put to the sword

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 3 02:45:51 2023 No.15173674 File: 1.45 MB, 1540x2310, Peru_-_Cusco_Sacred_Valley_&_Incan_Ruins_135_-_Tipón_water_channeling_(7100943169).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Inca fluid dynamics. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QYfsRIHXKHQ

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 3 03:02:51 2023 No.15173703 Ancient man monkey brain want pussy. Ancient man get pussy by making fancy building.

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