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All memes aside, why is eating bugs considered bad/wrong? Apart from learned disgust, it seems like bugs are just another source of protein. Something being weird is just a matter of unfamiliarity or learned distain.

>> No.15167650

>>15167643
Chitin is extremely toxic to humans in volume, and bugs have a bad nutrient profile (in much the same way rabbits do).

>> No.15167652

>>15167643
I will never eat the bugs
I will never eat the bugs
I WILL NEVER EAT THE BUGS

>> No.15167655

>>15167643
I have eaten bugs before. The point in questtion is trying to force the goyim to eat bugs through co2 taxes while our overlords get an exempt status because bugs aren't kosher.
Bugs have never been a part of the European diet.

>> No.15167657

>>15167643
no, aesthetics are objective and eating insects, along with eating horses, cats and dogs is repellent to all those without an ugly soul.

>> No.15167667

>>15167657
>aesthetics are objective
No they're not.

>> No.15167683

>>15167643
Grass is also "just protein"

>> No.15167687

>>15167643
eating the entire digestive tract of an animal prone to carrying disease and parasites, not to mention those awful hook-like feet breaking off and getting lodged in your throat

>> No.15167728

>>15167657
humans most likely ate horses as livestock before we used them for transport and labour

>> No.15167729

>>15167643
Not sure why, but I'm confident there's a reason why 99% of cultures do not eat bugs unless they have to. Starvation was a big issue for a huge part of human history, and we still avoided eating ze bugs.

>> No.15167740

>>15167687
This. Bugs carry bugs of their own
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6613697/

>> No.15167749

>>15167643
Eating bugs is not necessarily bad or wrong. Trying to force people to eat bugs when their culture and sensibilities are against it is wrong. It's dehumanizing. You and your handlers will face serious physical consequences. Keep pushing and let's accelerate this.

>> No.15167793

>>15167643
Eating bugs is disgusting and one should do it only if there's no other choice. It's like eating shit. There's nothing cool or even normal about eating shit. It's only natural to not want to eat shit. And if someone tries to sell you shit, your reaction should be "fuck you" instead of "hey, maybe you're right, what if eating shit isn't so bad?"
If you eat ze bugs, you are a literal NPC. It's even worse than voluntary vaccination.

>> No.15167849

>>15167655
>bugs aren't kosher
Citation required.

Don't their prophets wander off into the desert, eat grasshoppers and get high on burning bushes to get visions and prophecies?

Recently cannabis has seen huge increases in consumption. Theses people are just one eaten bug away from hallucinations and mass psychosis.

>> No.15167857

>>15167849
Bugs and shellfish are in the same taxonomic family so they're considered the same.

>> No.15167907

>>15167857
Yes Torah allows us to eat a 'clean insect' (Lev. 11:21-23). Locusts are among them; this is not why we deny John the Baptiser.
But Talmud says that if in doubt, don't eat it. For instance we are allowed yein (wine) made by Jews or with a clear line of transmission from a kosher winery to us; but we are not allowed yein which might, in part, have been offered to or intended for a false god. Like communion wine.
Overall we deem most bugs to be treyf, especially now that we see what bugs those bugs are carrying.

>> No.15167959

>>15167643
>memes aside, why is eating bugs considered bad/wrong?
It makes you spiritually impure thus making you unable to receive the RUACH HAKODESH.

>> No.15167968

>>15167907
>Yes Torah allows us to eat a 'clean insect' (Lev. 11:21-23).
It is allowed, not incentivized. If you haven't noticed, all biblical festivities and events have the Israelites eat MEAT (Passover, sacrifices in general, etc)

>Locusts are among them; this is not why we deny John the Baptiser
Christian nonsense, don't talk about Torah when your religion rejects it. There is also a possibility what he was eating wasn't locusts but "desert bread" (alfarroba)

>> No.15167971

>>15167907
>have been offered to or intended for a false god. Like communion wine.
kek! still seething about being abandoned for your sins for all that time. you people really are incredible.

>> No.15167973

>>15167643
poor nutrition because chitin is indigestible and they taste awful

>> No.15167978

>>15167652
>>15167643
It's the wrong debate anyway and just meant to be offensive or clickbait etc: use bugs for animal / pet food.

>> No.15167987

>>15167971
Repentance for sins has always existed before Christianity in case you'd didn't know

>> No.15167994

>>15167987
There is no salvation under the Law, because you're incapable of following it.

>> No.15167998

>>15167971
I thought it was pretty funny

>> No.15168010

>>15167650
This, plus humans evolved to eat meat from large animals. It's natural and what we were built to do. It's unnatural and unhealthy.

>> No.15168142
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15168142

>>15167643
Chitin proteins cause serious long-term harm in humans when ingested on a regular basis.

Simple as that.

>> No.15168146

>>15167749
>You and your handlers will face serious physical consequences. Keep pushing and let's accelerate this.
Based. FTW Viva La Revolucion against the elite left-wing globalists.

>> No.15168183

>>15167994
>There is no salvation under the Law
This is completely false

>because you're incapable of following it
Wrong, it's completely possible to follow it and jews indeed do it, specially when your sins can be forgiven anyway if you do teshuva, marry, etc

Just because christians are degnerates with no self-control or respect for the Law, doesn't mean everyone else is as well

>> No.15168202

>>15167643
>Apart from learned disgust
>learned distain
Prove that it's a learned disgust, and not an innate response like the fear of snakes, spiders or black people.

>> No.15168483

>>15168202
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/333056730_Article_Title_Insect_Food_Products_in_the_Western_World_Assessing_the_Potential_of_a_New_'Green'_Market
>No variation was detected between children and parents in the stated willingness to try or have insect food regularly. However, willingness to try insect food decreased with age in children (rs159=−0.26, P<0.01), unlike for adults where no variation was identifed with age. As a result, younger children, up to 11-yr old, were found to be more likely to want to try insect food relative to adults (t136=2.7, P<0.01). They were also positively influenced by their peers when discussing insect food pictures (t63=4.8, P<0.001), whereas older age groups reported a negative effect of peer conversation (t96=−3.2, P <0.01)
Sounds learned to me. I wouldn't say it's 100% the reason for not eating insects, but it's certainly not 0%.
The article also points out that 2 billion humans already eat insects.

>> No.15168487

>>15168183
>Wrong, it's completely possible to follow it and jews indeed do it
The law in Germany during the 1930s was that jews were illegal, to be rounded up, and disposed of.

The entire Holocaust was entirely "legal" according to the "laws" in Germany and other countries that Germany controlled.

>> No.15168489

>>15167643
How do you get the poop out of the bug before you eat it?

>> No.15168490

>>15168489
You don't. The parasites and poisons are part of the meal.

>> No.15168496

>>15168489
>How do you get the poop out of the bug before you eat it?
You don't.
Trust the science.
Enjoy your prions.

>> No.15168498

>>15167643
I've accidentally eaten an insect or two. I remember nothing aside from a horribly bitter taste that wouldn't leave. No one is going to convince me this is a great idea unless they engineer the fucking thing to taste like something we're supposed to eat.

>> No.15168507

>>15168498
If human shit could be made to taste like peach pie or something else you would eat, would you eat it?

>> No.15168531

>>15168507
Human shit is filled with the same toxic shit that humans eat, and eating literal feces isn't the topic of OP's post. But no. I would just make and eat peach pie or annihilate the desire to have it ever again if peach poop pie was the only option.
Man, people treat lobster, other crustaceans, shellfish, and fucking snails like a delicacy. They're already eating the bugs. With food manufacturing, we probably eat a disturbing amount of them anyway. There's something about how so many maggots are allowed in canned tomatoes, so many rat excreta in peanut butter, and so on within manufacturing standards. If they engineered the bugs to taste not fucking grody and hid them in food, I would be less pissed about it than just eating the ones trying to pirate my peanut butter.

>> No.15168536

>>15168531
>Man, people treat lobster, other crustaceans, shellfish, and fucking snails like a delicacy. They're already eating the bugs.
None of those involve eating chitin btw.

>> No.15168537

>>15168487
>The law in Germany during the 1930s was that jews were illegal, to be rounded up, and disposed of.
Because they were not following the Torah, HaShem punished the jews with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqeN5Ix0944

>> No.15168539

>>15168531
>eople treat lobster, other crustaceans, shellfish, and fucking snails like a delicacy.
Only degenerates eat that shit. Look at what the Chinese eat. They are disgusting.

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>>15168536
>>Man, people treat lobster, other crustaceans, shellfish, and fucking snails like a delicacy. They're already eating the bugs.
>None of those involve eating chitin btw.
This.
Lobsters, shrimp, shellfish, snails all have the exoskeletons removed before consumption.

You die pretty quick eating their "shells", just like eating insects in large quantities for a while will make you sick.

>> No.15168550

>>15168142
>>15167650
>>15167973
Why not just eat the meaty bits like we do with shellfish?

>> No.15168557

>>15168536
>what is softshell crab
Humans tend to eat a ton of mushrooms as well.
Anyhow, I'm not advocating for the movement towards eating insects. I can't imagine what that does to the digestive tract, but an inflammatory response is the mildest thing that comes to mind. Imagine having a diverticulum from a cricket foot getting lodged in the intestinal wall.

>> No.15168563

>>15168539
>Only degenerates eat that shit. Look at what the Chinese eat. They are disgusting.
You wot? I mean, I consider people that eat them degenerate because it's all disgusting and tastes like dirty saltwater. A shit ton of people do, in fact, eat those things though. From nearly every fucking culture and country.

>> No.15168565

>>15168550
>Why not just eat the meaty bits like we do with shellfish?
Could you imagine paying someone a wage to remove the legs, wings, shell, gut the insect, and butcher out the "meaty parts" of a fucking cricket?
Cost a thousand bucks for a jar of bug paste then.
They just dissolve the shit in acids or bases and blend it up into a slurry with some flour paste and sugar.
GoySlop.

>> No.15168585

>>15168565
fair enough

>> No.15168586

>>15167643
There was a somewhat recent Nature paper published regarding the evolutionary origin of human intelligence. The onset of this intelligence came from cooking foods so that it required far fewer chews to eat. Protein is the most important macronutrient we can get. Cooking bugs reduces the protein content far more than cooking meet does.

>> No.15168613

>>15167973
this

i won't even eat wings because the meat-bone ratio is shite, now they want us to eat fucking nothing

>> No.15168705

>>15167650
>Chitin is.. LE BAD
Yet you gobble up mushrooms like candy

>> No.15168739

>>15168705
You eat fungus?

>> No.15168757

rope+lamppost+you
>>15168531
>Man, people treat lobster, other crustaceans, shellfish, and fucking snails like a delicacy. They're already eating the bugs.
Man, people treat cows, other mammals, pigs, sheep, and fuckig horses like a delicacy. They are already commiting cannibalism.

>> No.15168759

>>15168705
Do you really eat mushrooms?

>> No.15168761

>>15167643
A bit of topic but still.
When some hippster fgt tells you that it is better to eat vegetable matter as a good source of protein.
Ask them this.
Do you ruminate your food?
Do you have a pouch before your stomach filled with stones to grind plant matter.
Or do you have 4 stomachs with highly specified protozoa to break down plant matter.
Or extra meters of intestines to extract as much as possible from your plant matter.
Or highly specialized teeth only for grinding or tongue to help for grinding.
If all the answers above is now then tell them to stop acting like a fucking cow and think like a human.

>> No.15168763

>>15168761
Just kick leftists in the face. Don't waste time talking to them.

>> No.15168773

>>15168763
I do not have a license for that

>> No.15168790

>>15168773
Don't need a loicense mate!

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15168890

>>15168483
>The article also points out that 2 billion humans already eat insects.

Yes and they also count insects that are written off as waste when they're caught in raw sugar processing machines and abattoirs. I have raw sugar with my tea, but I don't purchase bug burgers, but I get written as somebody who "eats insects".

>> No.15168907

>>15167849
Grasshoppers are kosher, it is known.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/cicadas-are-edible-but-are-they-kosher/amp/
Rabbis say they are kosher

>> No.15168909

>>15168550
too little to be considered worth the effort.
while with creatures like lobsters and crabs its fairly easy to get around the outsides to the inner meat, with bugs it's much harder to break a part the outer shell in a way that the meat is kept intact

>> No.15168912

>>15168537
Holop buddy you can't just say why hashem does what he does. You know you cant say that

>> No.15168917

>>15168909
Its worth the effort at the table. Its an effort for each bite, like cracking peanuts or unwrapping individual candy in a bowl. Its less effort than peeling a boiled egg. Still disguting because bug

>> No.15168929

>>15167643
No, it's all just societal/social pressures.
America (and I guess the rest of the West) hasn't developed a cultural taste for eating bugs and views it as taboo.
Places like China have developed it and view it as socially acceptable.
Ultimately, it's meaningless either way, the only thing that really matters is what it does to the body, which as I've also heard, provides a good source of protein.

>> No.15168944

>>15168761
Not to mention the grass still has shit for protein, and the actual nutrition comes from the bacteria growth processing the grass.

>> No.15168947

>>15167643
You leave a lot of unabsorbed nutrients and protein in your waste too, why don't you just eat your own poop and recover all these lost nutrients and proteins apart from your learned disgust?

>> No.15168948

>>15168907
Cicadas and grasshoppers are quite different, locusts and grasshoppers on the other hand... and the torah is quite clear on considering locusts to be on par with a plague.

>> No.15168950

>>15167643
Only the Wet Bugs should be eaten.

>> No.15168952

>>15167683
Yea and wheat grass is a delicacy among certain circles of people.

>> No.15168984

>>15167643
Bugs are ridden with diseases and parasites. They're not only disgusting and uncomfortable to look at they're harmful to consume.

>> No.15168995

>>15168948
The article i posted says that rabbis say that grasshoppers are kosher. I dont know why you are even talking about cicadas
>>15168952
Correct. All living beings have protein.

>> No.15169005

>>15168995
>I dont know why you are even talking about cicadas
You posted an article about how cicadas are not kosher whose conclusion of locusts/grasshoppers was.
>cicadas are never kosher, but there is also no tradition among Ashkenazim of eating locusts. Therefore, locusts are not kosher for Ashkenazim, either.

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>>15168531
Good boy, now trust the science and cut your penis, is good for your health!

>> No.15169034

>>15169026
Dumb faggot. Finish reading reply chains before pretending to be clever.

>> No.15169035

>>15168929
You deserve to be impaled and cooked alive you fucking idiot.

>> No.15169040

>>15169034
Obey and cut your penis now, you stupid moron!

>> No.15169042

>>15167657
Enough with the antisemitism.

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15169054

>>15169040

>> No.15169071

>>15169035
>resorting to threats
>doesn't even address the main point
I accept your concession.

>> No.15169072

>>15169035
Utterly based. Bugmen should be removed.

>> No.15169176

>>15167643
>1960s: in the future we'll colonize Mars and have flying cars!
>today: why won't you eat the bugs for Science? you're killing the planet!
maybe science did go too far

>> No.15169207

>chud speaks
>shrimp legs fall out
>I...
>crab guts fall from the roof of his mouth
>WILL...
>lobster tail bits protrude from between his teeth
>NOT...
>a mass of oysters is regurgitated in anger
>EAT...
>snails (possible still alive) writhe under his tongue
>THE...
>octopus tentacles try to grasp at his uvula
>BUGS!
>sea urchin spikes shoots through his seething teeth

>> No.15169209

>>15169176
It will be exponentially easier to take bugs to mars rather than cows.

>> No.15169226

>>15169209
>eat ze bogs for le mars!!
It's nice when bugmen go out of their way to tie these anti-human agendas together so I don't have to.

>> No.15169233

>>15169226
Don't worry lab grown meat will be developed long before anyone can go to mars, so you will be able to eat real Jesus meat and blood at your communion in no time.

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>>15169233
>Don't worry lab grown meat
I vill not eat ze bogs. I vill no eat ze soi. I vill not eat ze pharma-drenched cancer. I am waiting for your owners to start trying to force it so that all hell breaks loose and you get the only thing you deserve.

>> No.15169267

>>15169259
If you refuse to eat GMO, you are the only one starving since everything is GMO now thanks to genetic drift of crops.

>> No.15169270

>>15169267
I will continue avoiding GMOs to the best of my ability. Whether I succeed or not has no bearing on the fact that you are cancer and you need to be dealt with.

>> No.15169274

>>15169270
Ok liar. You are the one that quickly backslid from you will not eat x under any circumstances to you have no idea if you have been eating x all along anyway.

>> No.15169282

>>15169267
no they are not, contrary to what carnivoretards claim, plants aren't GMO. GMO = lab modified
>>15169270
i wonder when orthorexic schizophrenia will become a recognized disorder

>> No.15169289

>>15169274
I didn't backslide from anything to anything. You are subhuman scum and I reject your subhuman agenda.

>> No.15169318

>>15169282
>plants aren't GMO. GMO = lab modified
You modify seeds in a lab with germline changes and then all of their descendants are GMO lines too.

>> No.15169322

>>15169289
You clearly backslid. You originally said you would never, then you said you would just try your best not to.

>> No.15169325

>>15169318
but most commercial food items aren't GMO. they have to be explicitly mentioned to be GMO; bananas aren't GMO just because they "are different than in nature bro", for an example

>> No.15169330

>>15169322
>You originally said you would never
And I stand by my decision to not eat soi, bugs and lab-grown meat. You will face physical consequences. Tick-tock. Tick-tock.

>> No.15169332

>>15169325
>they have to be explicitly mentioned to be GMO
Too bad they waited far too many generations to make that law such that all other crops were already cross contaminated with GMO by the time it was codified.

>> No.15169339

>>15169330
No, you will face the consequences as organic meat becomes unaffordable to the type of people who need to use free social media when faced with competition and you will either starve or backslide more.

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15169340

>>15169325
>but most commercial food items aren't GMO. they have to be explicitly mentioned to be GMO;
Not if you're American. It is, in fact, ILLEGAL to label foods as GMO in many states.

>> No.15169341

>>15169339
>you will face the consequences as organic meat becomes unaffordable
You and your handlers will be dragged out into the streets and lynched when it happens. Hurry up already.

>> No.15169342

>>15169233
>if you don't want to eat ze bugs you're a christcuck

>> No.15169352

>>15169341
You can't even tie your own shoes let alone a noose, child.

>> No.15169354

>>15169352
Hurry up.

>> No.15169359

>>15169342
Not everyone, but definitely the doomsday antichrist guy I was talking to.

>> No.15169361

>>15169359
You were talking to me and I don't believe in any gods. The nonhuman hordes immediately lash out against imaginary Christian boogeymen when someone contradicts the globohomo agenda. It's funny.

>> No.15169362

>>15169354
You don't even know who you are mad at if you were going to do anything it would have happened with GMOs and forced vax, but you just stood down and took it and simply try your best instead of actually doing all the manic things you claim you will do.

>> No.15169369

>>15167643
Because you die if you eat them. Don't eat random bugs, and don't eat alive bugs.

>> No.15169370

>>15169362
Hurry up already. Ban cars. Ban meat. Ban guns. Maybe try to lock people down again. The consequences are waiting for you. Your owners are going slow because they're afraid, but they know they're running out of time and their grip is slipping.

>> No.15169374

>>15169361
I didn't lash out, I just demonstrated that the majority of the population is completely fine with cannibalism, so won't think twice about GMOs and lab meat and your whining and impotent outbursts of aggression won't ever actually do anything to stop the zeitgeist.

>> No.15169376

>>15169374
>I didn't lash out
Then why are you sperging off about imaginary boogeymen?

>> No.15169379

>>15169370
There were no consequence for any of those things and you will never rise up, you will always just impotently whine about the greater world from your sad little cave because you can't even convince like minded people to follow you let alone people with completely different interests than yourself.

>> No.15169384

>>15169376
Christianity is real and most christian really think the blood from the shroud belongs to jesus.

>> No.15169385

>>15169374
>I just demonstrated that the majority of the population is completely fine with cannibalism
completely unhinged take

>> No.15169386

>>15169384
Why did you sperg off about it?

>> No.15169388

>>15169386
Because it demonstrates that the majority of the world has an inherent interest in lab grown meat.

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15169390

>>15169379
Keep pushing. Surely there will be no consequences. It's not an issue that at least half of the population wants you out of their society. I'm sure your rulers will remain in power forever and always be there to protect you from a population that wants you expelled.

>> No.15169391

>>15169384
>christcucks exist therefore eat the bugs
not the striking argument you think it is pal

>> No.15169394

>>15169388
It's really funny to watch you devolve into overt psychosis. Autohiding all further posts from you. Strew in your impotent rage as your owners continue to lose control.

>> No.15169395

>>15169391
>bug
No I clearly said lab grown meat, not bugs, but Christians love their wet bugs already too and you won't stop them from eating shrimp any time soon.

>> No.15169397

>>15169390
>Surely there will be no consequences.
Keep making impotent threats from the comfort of anonymity. Surely someone else will put in the work you are unwilling to at some point.

>> No.15169399

>>15167650
>chitin is extremely toxic in volume
No its not retard.

>> No.15169398

>>15169395
I don't care about christcucks and I won't eat plastic meat either

>> No.15169400

>>15169394
Its pretty entertaining to watch you put your head in the sand and pretend like your opinion is the only one by expressing it with a third grade vocabulary.

>> No.15169406

>>15169398
Their puritan valued dictate the society you live in and none of your fearful anonymous crying will change how it actually is.

>> No.15169412

>>15169406
I'm not american or anglo either so no puritanism for me
still won't eat the bugs and plastic meat sorry bud

>> No.15169415

>>15169412
You will and your insane threats won't stop us. We will make you. You can't do anything about it, schizo. Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you.

>> No.15169418

>>15169415
either you're trolling or you're a really sad person bro
go outside and touch some grass or smth

>> No.15169428

>>15169418
The COVID pandemic has already shown that most people are cannibalistic. You will eat the meat of Jesus, schizo. Your impotent threats aren't gonna help you. We will feed you and other insane christcucks the meat of Jesus.

>> No.15169535

>>15167643
>I SAW IT ON LION KING IT MUST BE VIABLE

>> No.15169606

>>15168496
Prions in Bugs?
Are you retarded?

>> No.15169653

>>15169005
I only posted it because in it a rabbi explains that locusts are kosher. The rest of the article is irrelevant, you just can't resist having and expressing an opinion on whatever appears in your field of vision.

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>>15169653
>you just can't resist having and expressing an opinion on whatever appears in your field of vision.
what is it about the sciences which attracts all of the desperate, hopeless know-it-alls?
whatever it is, it should be changed.

>> No.15169896

>>15167643
I want some studies tho. I didnˈt now chitin was that bad. Here in mexico we sometimes eat grashoppers although is not a fundamental part of our diet and more like a delicacy. I donˈt know if eating them for a prolongated period of time would be bad for me.

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>>15169340
>Not if you're American. It is, in fact, ILLEGAL to label foods as GMO in many states.
True.
99% of package food products in the USA are GMO, due to the corn or HFCS in them, since 99.99% of corn harvested is GMO now.

>> No.15171056

>>15168929
China skins dogs alive too for food, should we develop a cultural taste for that just because a billion bugs are cannibals?

>> No.15171058

>>15169207
Its fairly common to not eat any of those gross animals, so your argument doesn't really work. Not to mention crab, lobster, and shrimp are all eaten without the shells and you know, separated from their intestinal tracts and literal shit and parasites with it.

>> No.15171069

>>15169340
>>15170875
I mean, that isn't true? HFCS is overwhelmingly highly refined and basically boiled which destroys any genetic material. US state law for GMOs is overridden by the FDA requirement that any GMO requires labeling if it is detectible (highly refined corn for instance would be non-allergenic and non-gmo as it's tested to be free of GMO material)
If something has a detectible GMO in a food or supplement in the US its required to be labeled, simple as.
t. regulatory employee for large food company
https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-7/subtitle-B/chapter-I/subchapter-C/part-66

>> No.15171073

>>15171056
I'm not making a case for that, just advising that any moral consideration on the matter is meaningless outside of its social influence.