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Two weeks edition

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>>15133780
decollage

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Soon

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>>15133780
WDR today?

Also 72 mins till live for F9 GPS launch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLetihk5VNk

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Is this an actual real video? Looks too good with how you can even see the stars, I'm wondering where it was filmed from or if it's a render

>> No.15133798
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Septic tanks. Mmm.

>> No.15133801

>>15133796
Time lapse photography played back as video.

>> No.15133808

>>15133798
Its like 1/4 the size of the BFR one that SpaceX for side by side comparison

>> No.15133811

Inshallah WDR today

>> No.15133879

Statoc fore today, they evacuated south padre

>> No.15133887

>>15133796
What is so strange about seeing stars at night?

>> No.15133889

>>15133798
Why are they so thick?

>> No.15133898

>>15133879
No they didn't. They didn't even fully evacuate Boca Chica.

>> No.15133903

>>15133811
Inahallah misson will success

>> No.15133908

>>15133887
Actually yeah now that I think about it, that Earth surface is really illuminated as well, so the pictures must have used a pretty long exposure. So I guess it makes sense. I'm just so used to seeing pics with no stars

>> No.15133909

WDR or 33 SF?

>> No.15133916

>>15133898
the entire gulf coast is a ghost town

>> No.15133919

>>15133909
they failed WDR so they are doing it again

>> No.15133926
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https://www.al.com/life/2023/01/nasa-rest-stop-rocket-decays-its-time-for-it-to-go-tourism-director-says.html
>NASA rest stop rocket decays: ‘It’s time for it to go,’ tourism director says
I'll take it

>> No.15133929

>>15133796
did they record the recent FH launch?

>> No.15133932

>>15133929
If they did, they wouldn't be allowed to release it.

>> No.15133941

SpaceX launch soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLetihk5VNk

>> No.15133945

>>15133919
They failed? I don't remember discussion around this.
And why?

>> No.15133949

Fuck, the stream was delayed 16 minutes.

>> No.15133952

>>15133945
They didn't, he's just using the modest tank-fill in the last test as an excuse for worst case scenario bullshitting.

>> No.15133958

kinda sad that we're doing only another partial prop fill

>> No.15133960

>>15133926
Send it on one last launch

>> No.15133962

>>15133945
Yes, they attempted to fuel up last week and scrubbed. L2 had a few posts about it

>> No.15133963

>>15133958
>implying they are gonna fail again
smart job getting ahead of the narrative

>> No.15133982

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLetihk5VNk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLetihk5VNk

9 MINUTES

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>>15133982
Man, that bay looks to be in such an odd position from this angle, in the middle of some narrow land bridge

>> No.15133988

>>15133987
Is that ULA or BO?

>> No.15133989

>>15133982
Why do they call it transporter erector but not transporter erector launcher?

>> No.15133990

>>15133982
give me one good reason to watch this

>> No.15133991

>>15133982
Is the go for launch call new?

>> No.15134003

>>15133780
Hey kid, wanna /ss/?

>> No.15134004

LANDING CONFIRMED!

>> No.15134005
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What in Oblivion is that?

>> No.15134008

>>15134005
Sus

>> No.15134011

>>15134005
I saw something pop-off there right when the stream cut to the engine.

>> No.15134014

>>15134005
mouse

>> No.15134015

Is any scot or german here? I think you might be able to spot the 2nd stage above you

>> No.15134024

>>15134015
Anon, It’s noon

>> No.15134027

Did the guy say "balls control this is awesome" at T+28:11?

>> No.15134029

>>15134027
launch control this is "alson?"

>> No.15134040

>>15134024
and cloudy

>> No.15134041

>>15134024
>>15134040
sadge

>> No.15134043

>>15133932
Wtf? Why?

>> No.15134047

>>15134043
The Falcon Heavy was carrying classified payloads for the United States Space Force. Astronauts have a lot of non-disclosure agreements about what they can and cannot release to the public, and a classified military payload's launch would be a big no-no. You needn't fret, though: there's probably no chance that the ISS actually saw it.

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>>15134005
They're not gonna be reusing that second stage anytime soon

>> No.15134059

>>15134015
scot here, too overcast as per usual

>> No.15134061

>>15134047
since Americans recorded the Soyuz launch I think it's only fair the Russians record this one

>> No.15134063

>>15134005
looks like it sprung some sort of leak. Yikes

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>>15133990
>give me one good reason to watch this
because Test Shot Starfish music

>> No.15134073

This GPS satellite is named Amelia Earhart. Tempting fate.

>> No.15134074
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>>15134073
It'll end up in the wrong orbit and get eaten by giant crabs?

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>>15134071

>> No.15134084

>>15133903
Kek i’m so glad someone remembered this

>> No.15134085

>>15134005
Vent of some kind? It's still going

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AGAGAHAHG

>> No.15134093

WDR isn’t happening today. Village wasn’t evacuated and the exclusion zone posted in the MSIB is the same size as last week’s propellant loading tests. Expect more propellant testing but not the full WDR

>> No.15134118

WDR is happening (I work at L2)

>> No.15134119

WDR is happening and the village is a blood sacrifice. Source my dad works for WEF

>> No.15134123

>>15134118
>>15134119
Who's Dick Rider?

>> No.15134142
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>>15134093
ok doomer
(pic of my balls)

>> No.15134164

>>15133780
I just realized that they could 'solve' problem of starship not having escape system, by launching it unmanned and then launching separate dragon with crew and dock to it.

>> No.15134170

>>15134164
kinda like how we launch sls-orion with people only to dock with starship after hmmmmm

>> No.15134171

>>15134164
guess what, that is exactly how they'll do it the first few dozen launches

but the limiting factor is not people in orbit, it's mass to orbit
and starship helps solve that problem

>> No.15134181

>>15134119
lets keep expending those humans

>> No.15134207

>>15134164
That's literally just the Polaris II mission

>> No.15134210

>>15134207
Isn't Polaris 2 a Dragon in a Falcon Heavy? Polaris 3 is the Starship mission.

>> No.15134213

>>15134210
No

>> No.15134214

>>15134210
A Crew Dragon on a Falcon9 docked with an unmanned Starship.

Falcon Heavy is not certified for crew, and will never get certified for crew. Elon has said a million times he is skipping straight to Starship. Falcon Heavy will never get people riding in it

Polaris III is the fun one, it's the first crewed Starship launch

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-ACK

>> No.15134249

>>15134164
For larger crew sizes, an astronaut depot.

>> No.15134256

>>15134249
>an astronaut depot.
Otherwise known as an orbital hotel

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It's over…

>> No.15134264

>>15134213
>>15134214
I could swear they said it would be a FH launch back from when Polaris was announced. It was something about "the furthest non-lunar space travel ever".

>> No.15134273

>>15134264
Nahhh

>> No.15134275

>>15134264
>"the furthest non-lunar space travel ever"
That would be Polaris I that you are thinking about, and it is on a Falcon9 Block5 and planned no earlier than March.

no Falcon Heavy involved, just crew dragon

>> No.15134276

When will Terran 1 launch?

>> No.15134278

>>15133780
is that image to scale? it looks off...

>> No.15134279

>>15134275
Oh alright then, I fucked up in my head.

>> No.15134289
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>>15134278
CD is 3.7m and Starship is 9m so it looks right generally. Starship does not have chines, the canard placement is too far forward, and it does not look like the model is long enough (needs to be 50 meters)

>> No.15134306

>>15134289
I really don't understand how somebody can put in so much effort into modeling little details like the windows but then just completely fuck up the basic shape, were they doing it all from memory? It takes like a minute to set up orthographic reference images in blender and then you can just trace them.

>> No.15134312

>>15134214
it will get nuclear certified though, and that's arguably harder than getting crew certification

>> No.15134316

>>15134164
except make it Orion instead of Dragon, since that will secure many more jobs

>> No.15134331

>>15134312
Not that I don't believe you, but source?

>> No.15134332

>>15134331
I made it up

>> No.15134335

>>15134331
isn't Dragonfly supposed to launch on FH? I don't see any other option

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we'll get to space eventually, once NASA gets the EMVs from the black projects
>electromagnetic gravitics
>electromagnetic zero-point energy extraction
>massless, no speed limit, no g-force
>air, sea, space, and consciousness field
>astral project, teleport
>electromagnetic synthetic telepathy communication protocols

>> No.15134354

>>15134348
>>>/x/

>> No.15134369

>wdr is CONFIRMED for today
ok now what? 33 engine static fire next week?

>> No.15134375

>>15134369
>wdr is CONFIRMED for today

lol, no

>> No.15134380

WDR is not confirmed for today! It’s more propellant load testing but no WDR. There might be a spin prime too though

>> No.15134383

>>15134369
2 weeks

>> No.15134412

https://twitter.com/BocachicaMaria1/status/1615753524020641818

Defender on station. Villagers updated with evacuation needs.Full evac for me on Esperson, @StarshipBoca
is full frontal view? Starship Station is accessible

Oh boy this could be it

>> No.15134413

>>15134412
>WDR CONFIRMED CONFIRMED AGAIN

>> No.15134422

>>15134412
Is it a literal Land Rover Defender?

>> No.15134427

>>15134422
No, it's an ironic Land Rover Defender

>> No.15134439

>>15134427
I was imaging some Lord Humungus type called The Defender driving around in a buggy hounding people away.

>> No.15134441

where is the Starship control room located? is it on side or in CA?

>> No.15134495
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>>15134439
>Leave the methane, walk away

>> No.15134500

Propellent loading in progress.

>>15134441
Starbase

>> No.15134502

>>15134439
>>15134495
lmfao

>> No.15134508

This is a massive static fire happening

>> No.15134510

>>15134495
>Launch the rocket and there will be an end to this suffering

>> No.15134516

>>15134508
There is no overpressure notice. What will happen is they'll fill it all up and have the notices etc in case it goes pop.

>> No.15134517

>>15134306
People are lazy. Pretty much every single orbital flight test fan animation gets the number of engines wrong, or uses a premade model from years ago when the design was still in its brainstorming phases (wings around the bottom of the booster, grid fins folding snug against the fuselage which they don't) and of course taking off way too fast at like a hilarious 4.0 thrust-to-weight ratio and landing just as quickly. They don't care about accuracy, they care about views usually

>> No.15134519

https://twitter.com/m_tijn/status/1615361689414959105?t=zG5RPynkWurhPnCvt_Ra7A&s=19

New starship animation

>> No.15134525
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>>15134259
it's over

>> No.15134529
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SLS now in fast fill

>> No.15134534

>NSF commenter thinks this isn't the full WDR

Thots?

>> No.15134535

>>15134529
Holy shit we actually launchin?

>> No.15134539

>>15134534
Tell him to read L2

>> No.15134540
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>>15134519
I know that it simplifies things and that Elon is obsessed with radial docking but part of me really prays they go with ass-to-ass docking like they originally envisioned. Perfectly tubular vehicles just don't look right to me docking radially, leave it for the shittle and spaceplanes, thanks

Not sure how that would work when you need to transfer crew though

>> No.15134561

>>15134264
Does that mean SpaceX will be the first organization to send humans beyond LEO for over 50 years? Based if true

>> No.15134566

Will they have to destack to do the static fire?

>> No.15134568

>>15134561
It will still be LEO, Artemis II will be BLEO, lunar

>> No.15134570

>>15134566
yes

>> No.15134572

>>15134566
No

>> No.15134574

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1615752781809188865?t=UL8zmfNEnQ4oTwEM-It3nw&s=19

Abl failed due to fire inside engine bay

>> No.15134575

>>15134566
Maybe

>> No.15134576

>>15134566
Don't NEED to but Elon said in a tweet a while back that they would

>> No.15134582

>>15134539
I can't I'm shadowbanned from their youtube chat lmao

>> No.15134583

>>15134568
Oh I see, LEO is until an altitude of 2000 km. SpaceX says Polaris Dawn will be going into the inner Van Allen belt, which begins at 1000 km usually, which I had thought was where LEO ended. Have they publicly stated how far Polaris Dawn is planning to go?

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>>15134529
chilly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc-hRTHuSvg

>> No.15134601

I wish we had telemetry info on a Starship OFT so I can know hold long to clench my asshole during liftoff. I reaaallly don’t want it nuking the pad, bros.

>> No.15134626

10 tons of tiles according to L2
holy schnikes

>> No.15134628

>>15134626
The shuttle had 10 tons of tiles too I think, but a smaller area

>> No.15134632

Trump's planning on Twitter comeback for tangent news lmao

>> No.15134634

>>15134626
>>15134628
Shuttles also lot smaller than Starship. So per sqft, the starship heat shields must be at least half the weight or maybe even a third of the weight.

>> No.15134645

>>15134634
they're thinner

>> No.15134646

>>15134634
If I remember right, they're using a variant of Pica-X(dragon) that's filled with hydrogel it's much lighter than the shuttle sheidds but more fragile

>> No.15134650

>>15134632
Trump is old news

>> No.15134652

>>15134500
>Starbase
source?

>> No.15134653

Why is SpaceX unable to fully fuel Starship?

>> No.15134655

damn they had to evacuate 50 square miles for a little methane puddle

>> No.15134660

>>15134655
Now you know why this shit aint launching till august

>> No.15134663

>>15134653
Joe Biden

>> No.15134676

>Elon fucks off to twitter distraction
>Gwynne takes over Starbase ops
>suddenly Starbase is sloooooooowwwwww

>> No.15134677

>>15134653
FAA. They want SpaceX to slow down and not rush

>> No.15134680

>tfw you'll never be an ice miner working hard to buy a ticket on the first interstellar colony ship

>> No.15134685

>>15134653
Starship is a lie

>> No.15134702

>>15134650
Then why do you continue to talk about him

>> No.15134713
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I knew Mercury was small and there wasn't much room in the capsule for the astronaut but for some reason this image really makes that hit home.

>> No.15134715
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>>15134650
Will Musk kiss the ring if Trump is elected in 2024?

>> No.15134721

>>15134715
how did I miss that post. Anyway so this is the reason Trump isn't coming back on Twitter

>> No.15134723
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>>15134715
Probably but what happens if DeSantis is elected President? Florida and Old Space are tightly bound together. SpaceX makes use of NASA's facilities in Florida but doesn't have that big of a presence in the state otherwise. Certainly not as much as Old Space does.

>> No.15134724

>>15134721
Musk wants him back, he needs that engagement and relevance

>> No.15134727

>>15134721
NBC is reporting that Trump is returning the twitter and facebook but "sources say" often is wrong. Trump has his own competing service called Truth Social, but it really hasn't caught on.

>> No.15134728

>>15134702
You brought him up?

>> No.15134731

>>15134728
That wasn't me.

>> No.15134736
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ABL's Flight 1 incident report just dropped

>> No.15134741

>new IOG report
so basically NASA will have to whore out some Artemis seats otherwise the won't be able to pay for the rocket themselves

>> No.15134749

>>15134741
Just like Shuttle

>> No.15134753

>>15134676
woman. cant live withem cant live withoutem

>> No.15134758

>>15134753
The age of robot ai wives will end this finally.

>> No.15134764

https://www.space.com/nasa-equipping-spacex-dragon-iss-lifeboat

NASA finally certifying SpaceX for 5 seats on crew dragon in case of emergency

>> No.15134765
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>>15134713
In terms of volume per occupant Gemini was even smaller

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>> No.15134770

>>15134765
And you had to smell each other's poop.

>> No.15134775

>>15134646
retard

>> No.15134780

>>15134770
you ever listen to a man massage the poop off of his anus into a ziplock bag

>> No.15134786
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>RS1 Flight 2 and Flight 3 in production

>> No.15134792

What happened with the chill down test?

>> No.15134793

>>15133889
carbon fiber?

>> No.15134794

>>15134786
How does a fire in the engine bay even happen just 7 seconds after launch? They static fires RS1 flight 1 a million times already

>> No.15134795

>>15133926
If someone asked me what a rest stop rocket was, I wouldn't guess it was this.

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>>15133889
it's mould

>> No.15134798

>>15134758
watch them try an force us to giv em rights

>> No.15134800

>>15134794
Thermite charge.

>> No.15134802

It's official: WDR is not happening

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>> No.15134845

>>15134786
god I want to shove my head in between those engines

>> No.15134867

It should be FORBIDDEN to use 9 engines on your S1
I swear to god if Ariane 7 uses 9 engines i'll snipe it

>> No.15134907

Feeling down about Starship. Two more weeks...

>> No.15134911

>>15134867
iirc they are going with 7
but that was preliminary study, so who knows

>> No.15134935

>>15134911
7 would be a F9 sized launch vehicle, not enough

>> No.15134944

instead of fixing solar panels to the ISS and just pointing the ISS to the sun they decided to rotate the space station and then actuate the solar panels to they are always turned toward the sun.

>> No.15134972

Great test everbody. Sure wasted your time again
>next closure monday
>that MSIB was literally for show
NEVER
FLYING

>> No.15134978

>>15134972
gonna kms

>> No.15134994

Why is the black man saying this is WDR? I thought was just nitrogen?

>> No.15135015

>>15134736
>accelerating downward
lol it's called falling

>> No.15135020

Bros what's your favourite euphemism for "rocket blowing the fuck up"?

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>>15135020
rapid unscheduled disassembly

>> No.15135025

>>15135020
we have an observation

>> No.15135031

>>15135020
mechanical issues

>> No.15135036

HAHAHA you were so convinced WDR was gonna happen today. Any thoughts about what ACKTUALLY happened?? no???

>> No.15135043
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>>15135020
''obviously a major malfunction"

>> No.15135047

>>15135020
An issue of some sort

>> No.15135052

>>15135020
The front fell off

>> No.15135053

>>15135020
waiting for more telemetry

>> No.15135070

>>15134723
Ron would probably give musk as much freedom as he possibly could to operate in florida, which is grim considering i’m a texasfag and want as much as possible to happen out of the lone star state. But it is what it is.

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>>15135020
Well, it was a very spectacular liftoff

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>>15135020
anomaly

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>>15135052

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>>15135020
>continues to talk about the same vaguely related topic they've been on about since liftoff while ignoring the line on the chart going in the wrong direction.

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Reddit

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MY PEEPEE HURTS!

>> No.15135107

>>15135074
>Misfire

of... what?

>> No.15135116

>>15135100
Good, I'm glad

>> No.15135125

>>15135020
The trampoline isn't working.

>> No.15135131
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https://spacewatch.global/2023/01/oman-to-build-the-middle-easts-first-spaceport/

Well, that makes two spaceport projects in the Middle East

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>USA has 3 heavy lift rockets
>Everyone else has 0

By the way, wouldn’t FH be capable of sending a modified dragon capsule to the moon? Why need sls at that point lol

>> No.15135137

>>15135132
>wouldn’t FH be capable of sending a modified dragon capsule to the moon?
sure, by 2030 maybe

>> No.15135138

>>15135132
Dragon is not big enough for moon missions

>> No.15135141

>>15135132
Yeah, White Dragon is a pretty solid idea. It's not comparable to Orion, but two, three, or even four Heavy launches is still far far cheaper than one SLS launch. One SLS + Orion launch is the same cost as 80 Falcon Heavy launches.

>> No.15135142

>>15135132
USA has 1 heavy lift vehicle. The rest retired or are waiting on engines from a company that likes building big empty factories more than building rockets or launching them. It also as 1/2 a super heavy lift vehicle, cause it successfully launched once and the next time it launches is 2 years from now; the cadence of which is just unbearably painful. The other half is still in development and once it completes development and launches regularly, it would be fairer to say that the US has anywhere from 5-100 super heavy lift vehicles and the rest of the world has none.

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>>15135137
Try 2024
>>15135138
:^)

>> No.15135159

>>15135132
Still can't believe these three are real.

>> No.15135161

>>15135137

Falcon Heavy was supposed to fly Dragon XL to the gateway. But everything is massively behind schedule because SLS kept slipping.

>> No.15135162

>>15135137
Can't FH send Orion?

>> No.15135168
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He’s gonna be on Artemis 3 isn’t he? You wouldn’t want anyone else but him

>> No.15135170

>>15135162
Maybe, if you stack an ICPS on as a third stage. That's a weird Frankenstein rocket and no one really want to try developing it, let alone building it.

A deep space-rated crew dragon model with an actual service module launched on a stock expendable Falcon Heavy is a much simpler option.

>> No.15135172

>>15135170
>Maybe, if you stack an ICPS on as a third stage.
what if we add two solid boosters to the core? I see the appeal of a deep Dragon but NASA obviously isn't gonna like that

>> No.15135173

>>15135153
okay now post the entire CSM next to Dragon without its trunk (because the trunk is just solar panels, radiators, and an aerosurface for abort situations

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>>15135168
There is literally no way that the first man of color on the moon will be anyone else but pic rel. it’s just too obvious

>> No.15135175

>>15135174
and then we can send that one bulldyke, you know the one
she seems competent

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>>15135173
What are you even trying to say?

>> No.15135180

>>15135179
they have comparable volumes but the dragon keeps its propellant internal while the CSM keeps it external. you would need to design a new service module and redesign the abort system, it would be a pain in the ass and at that point you might as well just make Starship happen

>> No.15135182

>>15135180
Yeah, that's why SpaceX didn't build White or Red Dragon. You'd realistically need to crew rate Falcon Heavy as well, unless you want to send everything up piecemeal (not actually hard) on four to six Falcon 9 launches.

>> No.15135183

>>15135168
>>15135174
>>15135175
I don't trust nasa to pick them, they're too normal, they're gonna go for the most obvious diversity hire they can just to enrage people.

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>>15135172
The problem isn't too little thrust. The problem is that it's a kerbal space program rocket with questionable aerodynamic qualities that'd be no where near as easy to build as "just stacking some stages together." Adding SRBs into that mess would require so much redesigning of the center core you'd essentially be building a new rocket.

>> No.15135190

>>15135183
I wonder who's the Chosen person what will choose the crew

>> No.15135192
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I was thinking about that balloon to space company and then I found out there are actuall TWO of them, World View and Space Perspective

They both say they will launch in 2024. Chances of that lol

>> No.15135193

>>15135159
why's that, anon?

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>>15135192
>space
Mesocucks, when will they learn?

>> No.15135195

>>15135183
Yeah but he’s black so he’s also the most obvious diversity pick

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>> No.15135219

>>15135189
It's really at th edge of FH's capability
ICPS+Orion = 30,710kg + 26,520kg; just within FH's limits with a few tons to spare maximum (there's the extended fairing and LES which weight it down during the S1/Boosters burn)

ICPS dry mass = 3,490kg; so ICPS+Orion has about 2925 m/s of delta V, TLI is ~3.2 km/s from a reference LEO. It's possible Orion will have to provide up to 400 m/s of delta-v, which then removes a lot of margin, since Orion had 1400 m/s of dV and in and out from NRHO is 2*450 m/s. You're very quickly over the margin

>> No.15135220

>>15135192
What do you do if you have to shit?

>> No.15135221

>>15135217
this is so perverse bros

>> No.15135223

>>15135221
>>15135217

i kinda wanna be fuckin that womoonnequin

>> No.15135225

>>15135220
Just go over the side.

>> No.15135227

>>15135192
Bros...I could live in a booby

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>>15135194
>Tropozoans

>> No.15135230

WE NEED FUSION ROGGETS

>> No.15135231

WE NEED LAAAAAZORS

>> No.15135232

Russia hit it first

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>>15135230
>>15135231
LASER AUGMENTED FUSION ROCKETS

>> No.15135244

>>15135168
>>15135174
Johnny Kim and Victor Glover are based. Am I the only one who’s not fucking racist here?

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>>15135132
Almost everyone has a heavy lift rocket dumbass
And dragon-falcon heavy isn’t happening
Lurk more; way more

>> No.15135252

>>15135244
Victor Glover is pretty based as far as I've seen, but that's not why he's going to the moon. NASA is sending him to the moon because his skin color is more important than any amount of astronaut basedness he's ever demonstrated. It's not wrong to call out this as the institutional racism it is, nor is it wrong to take any opportunity to publicly mock it.

>> No.15135253

Who will get soviet technology after we nuke Russia?

>> No.15135255

>>15135253
China

>> No.15135265

>>15135251
>Almost everyone has a heavy lift rocket dumbass
NOT EUROPE KEK

>> No.15135270

>>15135255
that's not fair though. cant we take it and sell it back to them?

>> No.15135274

>>15134061
American law applies to everyone, not just american citizens.

>> No.15135279

>>15135265
Ariane 5
>>15135270
Oh I didn’t mean they’d get it cleanly. They’d just find desperate starving roscosmos and yuzhmash engineers and buy schematics for pennies on the dollar despite what America wants or not

>> No.15135281

>>15135274
Very true. The entire Earth atmosphere is under FAA jurisdiction

>> No.15135283

>waaa hydrogen leak waaa
Ok? Who cares, let it leak. As long as you keep topping it off it's fine

>> No.15135285

>>15135265
Japan doesn’t have one on the table at all, India has one only on paper. You’re getting confused between heavy and super heavy I think. DIVH is a heavy vehicle, it’s literally in the name. Ariane 5 is heavy. Falcon Heavy is heavy, but is also super heavy by technicality when launching in full expendable mode

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Will the ESA put a man in LEO before the 100th anniversary of America doing so?

>> No.15135299
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Is it possible to use lunar regolith in cluster munitions? The stuff is so fine and sharp imagine it in an explosive

>> No.15135300

>>15135292
Yes, big Phemis

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>>15135285
Japan's notional H3 Heavy is closer to reality than India's post GSLV-4 heavy lifter.

>> No.15135304

>>15135299
Yes, humanity has thusfar never managed to synthesize "sharp rock"
It would transform warfare as we know it.

>>15135302
I'm a big H-3 fan, I am not a big H-3 Heavy fan.

>> No.15135306

>>15135244
I like Glover a lot. He’d be the most qualified regardless.

>> No.15135307

>>15135302
>H3 Heavy
Kek what in the hell is this absurdity

>> No.15135311

>>15135306
Which is he related to, Danny Glover or Crispin Glover (has to be one or the other)?

>> No.15135314

>>15135299
against geneva conventions

>> No.15135316

>>15135302
H3 heavy could put FH out of business for good

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Boy, I sure can't wait for the first launch from the surface of Mars in 2005!

>> No.15135324

>>15135302
H3AVY

>> No.15135334

>>15135285
>>15135279
>Ariane 5
going to end in the next 6 months

>> No.15135338

>>15135244
I'm racist and I like those guys.

>> No.15135347

>>15135311
Presumably their ancestors were all owned by some white guy in Georgia named Mr Glover

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>>15135307
You take three H3s and put them together and that becomes the H3 Heavy. It's just that easy in Delta IV clonery.

It's also more real than any of this strangeness. The ISRO has a budget of $1.7B per year. Who's going to fund any of these things?

>> No.15135358

>>15135020
Shovel recovery.

>> No.15135359

>>15135338
It's almost like people should be judged on their merits and not the color of their skin.

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https://www.ga.com/ga-completes-draco-nuclear-thermal-propulsion-system-design-and-test-milestone
>GA-EMS delivered a baseline design of a DRACO Nuclear Thermal Propulsion (NTP) reactor and engine and successfully tested key components of the nuclear reactor, including the vitally important high-temperature fuel elements in prototypic conditions at the NASA Nuclear Thermal Element Environmental Simulator (NTREES)

This is pretty big for NTP considering the main technical hurdle was developing a fuel element that could handle the temperatures needed to achieve 900+ ISP.

>> No.15135370

>>15135359
If only we had a climate agency that believed in those values

>> No.15135381

>>15135244
I don't know if they are based or not, seem well qualified/normal astronauts
but are they the best?

>> No.15135382

>>15135364
Still not buying it

>> No.15135390

>>15135322
Holy fuck, when did NASA go from getting missions done on timescales of a decade to 3 decades

>> No.15135394

>>15135302
Seeing as a no-booster H3 is $50 mil per flight, it would be interesting if H3 heavy is $120 million per launch (Ariane 6 prices). Not great, but much better than Ariane 5, H-IIA, etc.

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Name it

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>>15135399
Ultra-mega-heavy.

>> No.15135404

>>15135390
NASA tried to do quick, cheap missions back in the 1990s, but then everything they sent to Mars in 1998 failed and JPL used that as an opportunity to readjust just how much Faster and Cheaper were going to be used in Better, Faster, Cheaper. Discovery-class missions had a pretty good track record for speed and low cost for a while, but Psyche, DAVINCI, and VERITAS are kinda fucking that up at the moment.

>> No.15135405

>>15135404
We need another way

>> No.15135408

>>15135399
You can do better. I see a pentagon booster formation there being optimal. Hell, maybe six too. Imagine the stresses on the main structure.

>> No.15135409

>>15135399
Needs four F9 boosters, soyuz style.

>> No.15135414

>>15135281
it is actually, yes

>> No.15135420

>>15135404
The Discovery Program used to be “better, faster, cheaper.” It had a price cap of $600 million and a max dev time of 3 years.

Understand that the price cap is still $600ish million (InSight went over because of the delay). But because they’re so cheap, there’s a horrible amount of bidding for Discovery class missions. They also are way more common; Discovery has 2-3 missions a decade. This has a lot of members: Pathfinder, Phoenix, Dawn, Kepler, MESSENGER, Lucy, and soon Psyche are from here.

The “New Frontiers Program” was the intermediate sized missions, with a price cap of about $1 billion. This hasn’t really changed desu. New Horizons, Osiris-Rex, and DragonFly are members of this.

The “Flagship” program was the big boys. Unlimited budget (but usually $2-3 billion) with years in development. Curiosity, Perseverance, and eventually Europa Clipper are here

>> No.15135423

>>15135274
>American law applies to everyone
Even people on Mars? I don't think so, you disgusting earther,

>> No.15135424

>>15135399
• Delta V
• Ultra Payload Managed Aboard Star Ship
• Expendable Artemis Rocket for Transportation and Habitation
• Mega Artemis Return Ship
• Rocket, Expendable, Transportation And Refueling Depots
• Von Braun Stack

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>>15135382
You don't need to, its happening anyway.

https://medium.com/@ToryBrunoULA/why-is-everyone-talking-about-nuclear-propulsion-41121eac78e

>> No.15135435

>>15135426
>Viola: three- to four-month transit times to Mars.
I'm using this as a shitpost later.

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>>15135426
Sorry, I don't read oldspace drivel. Halfway in and it's nothing but complaining about how space is hard.

>> No.15135439

Meanwhile with plasma magnetic sail propulsion

>2 weeks to Mars

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>>15135426
>Tory Bruno

>> No.15135444

>>15135439
>plasma magnetic sail
This is a literal meme based on wild extrapolation from a desktop model. There's no evidence that it will work at the scales required.

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>>15135168
Nah he doesn't have to be on Artemis III. He NEEDS to be the first human on Mars though. Jonny Kim is the perfect person to be the first human on another planet.

>> No.15135451

>>15135426
It’s an obvious money factory. The only goal here is get gibs and grossly inflate project budgets for this and future projects

>> No.15135454

>>15135449
I think he might actually be too old by then, sadly

>> No.15135459

>>15135449
>>15135454
Imagine being selected as an astronaut and not flying for a fucking decade. Also I’m Asian and yeah my mom uses Johnny as an example of a perfect son

>> No.15135460

>>15135459
>Imagine being selected as an astronaut and not flying for a fucking decade
Space is hard job.

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>>15135451
This, all his other posts are about how it's far too hard to establish a colony anywhere in the solar system, and salivating over the multi-trillion dollar cis-lunar economy

>> No.15135463

>>15135460
What do astronauts do on their down time? At least the shuttle guys only had 2-3 years between flights, sometimes less. Retiring the shuttle was good but retiring it without a ready replacement was stupid.

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>> No.15135469

>>15135462
In the original document, they use Vulcan + SMART reuse as an example of a “reusable rocket.” Lol. How the fuck do you carry 1,000 people into space on Vulcan, anyways? That’s like 1 Starliner every 3-4 days.

>> No.15135470

>>15135459
Yeah Victor Glover was an astronaut for years before he finally went to space. Hopefully we'll have more astronauts working in space in the coming decade.

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>>15135467

>> No.15135473

>>15135444
If it doesn't end up working and theres no closed plasma loop then there's still electric sails

Slightly longer trip time though

>> No.15135474

>>15135469
When thinking about this it's important to remember that Starliner has a 6 month refurbishment period between flights. You're going to need a lot of capsules to go with those rockets.

>> No.15135475

>>15135470
The shuttle flew 35 people to orbit every year (very rough math don’t judge). Is Dragon there yet? IIRC it’s 16-20 per year right now on Dragon. Anyways, once Starship is online, expect the astronaut corps to grow. Also, expect way more “citizen astronauts,” or people who are not NASA but have sponsored flights.

>> No.15135476

>>15135449
quick rundown on him?

>> No.15135477

>>15135454
Is it feasible to say that the first person to step foot on Mars will come from as-yet-unnamed astronaut group?

>> No.15135478

>>15135476
military, doctor, astronaut, asian, american

>> No.15135480

>>15135476
Navy Seal, Doctor, Astronaut

>> No.15135481

>>15135476
Medic
Sniper
Paratrooper
Resident Physician
Wife/Kids
In his 30s

>> No.15135483
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>>15135474
If someone could find a way to put a heat shield and parachutes on Rockwell’s Shuttle Passenger Cabin, you could probably carry 1,000 people to orbit with 1 Vulcan launch per month.

>> No.15135485

>>15135476
Human

>> No.15135487

Booster 8 is being scrapped

>> No.15135490

>>15135481
Man. Some kids get the stereotypical Asian parents, and then you've got whatever wild cultivator webnovel mentors this guy landed.

>> No.15135491

>>15135476
Navy SEAL, then went to Harvard Medical School and became a Doctor, and finally became a NASA astronaut.
The bane of all Asian kids.

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>>15135476
If you can believe it, he’s one of only a few asians with the last name ‘Kim’

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>>15135462

>> No.15135502
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>>15135463
Go around the country talking at Rotary Clubs

>> No.15135503

>>15135491
>Harvard med school
As a current pre med in Uni, do you know how insane it is to get into ANY medschool, let alone Harvard? Dude is fucking smart

>> No.15135505
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The Virgin Asian SEAL-Physician-Astronaut
vs
The Chad Quebecois Astrophysicist-Engineer-Physician-Astronaunt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Saint-Jacques

>> No.15135507

>>15135462
>>15135501
too many depots

>> No.15135508

>>15135505
I love astronauts but I cannot wait for the day “normal” people can go to space. Even your average brain surgeon isn’t even qualified enough to fly in space right now

>> No.15135509
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>>15135459
>Imagine being selected as an astronaut and not flying for a fucking decade
Imagine being selected as an astronaut and not flying for 30 years, all while having Half of your astronauts classmates die in Columbia

>> No.15135512

>>15135476
He was lucky enough to be born in the US

>> No.15135516

>>15135509
That’s actually fucking sad if I were her I’d be pissed off. She retired in 2008 too so she’ll never fly.

Wish we had a list of Astronauts who never flew, so someone can at least let them pass the Karman line or go into orbit with Starship.

>> No.15135517

>>15135516
>>15135509
Literally some Greek tragedy-tier fate: You never fly to space but get to see all your friends go. Worse; you were selected as an astronaut so you’re basically grounded. Sorry Yvonne, let’s hope Starship can help you

>> No.15135521

>>15135516
Yes it sucks but also they went on that sweet gooberment payroll with benefits and got to do a bunch of cool NASA training for a living. Plus even the most mundane payload assistant from the shuttle era had plenty of other achievements besides going to space. PhDs, politicians, etc. Being an astronaut who has gone to space is just a cherry on top of an already-exquisite resume. Even for people like Ballast Bill. The only exception to this is space tourists but I’m only counting the few who have gone to the ISS, and Insp4. Suborbit is gay so BO and virgin don’t count

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15135523

https://starlab-space.com/
Lockmart is officially out of Starlab
>Hilton as a top tier partner
lmao it's over

>> No.15135527

>>15135523
Double Trees are nice

>> No.15135528

>>15135523
>Hilton
lmao wtf

>> No.15135537

>>15135516
Cagle actually is still on the astronaut list, so in the unlikely event every other astronaut drop dead she could fly.

She’s the only NASA astronaut who did not resign* or die to never fly afaik.

*although some did resign due to not flying, like Donald holmquest in the 70s or Neil Woodward in the 2000s

>> No.15135553

>>15135478
>>15135480
>>15135481
>>15135490
>>15135485
>>15135491
>>15135503
>>15135496
>>15135512
Damn
thanks for the rundown

>> No.15135555

>>15135523
>Voyager
It’s over
>Hilton
ITS OVER
>Airbus
It’s stuck in contract negotiations between Germany and France for where factories will be built
>ohio state university
It’s over.

>> No.15135565

I’m in so much pain I was so sure starlab would be successful it’s a fucking one launch station how did they fuck it up AAAAAA IM GOING INSANE HELP ME BIGELOW MAN

>> No.15135569

>planned testing has been canceled until at least next week
what went wrong with today's wdr??

>> No.15135571

>>15135517
>let’s hope Starship can help you
Sounds more like a job for JEFF!

>> No.15135572

>>15135569
it was never happening in the first place

>> No.15135573

>>15135523
starlab is the most feasible of the stations too. i wonder what happened.

>> No.15135578

How do you say "it's over" in Martian?

>> No.15135582

>>15135517
One of the saddest Astronaut stories is fernando caldeiro, the guy Came to the us in the mid 70s, from a modest familly Without diploma or speaking a word of English, within ten years he was a B-1 test pilot, within twenty he was a NASA astronaut, he was scheduled to fly in 2003 but Columbia happened, by the time the shuttle returned to flight he had been diagnosed with a brain tumour and died at 50 in 2009. And on top of that his wife died a couple years later leaving his daughters orphans

>> No.15135587

>>15135569
Nothing went wrong. Some predicted WDR, others predicted partial. SpaceX reserves 2-3 day periods in advance for backup testing dates. If test is success, they cancel the other dates.

So partial cryotest happened, prob success. Then cancelled backup dates.

>> No.15135589

>>15135587
OR it was 2-3 days of successive tests, then day 1 failed for some reason so they canceled and went back to the drawing board

>> No.15135591

>>15135589
ITS OVER!

>> No.15135592

>>15135578
Two weeks

>> No.15135596

>>15135592
Two years*

>> No.15135606

>>15135582
Either way that’s insane. I hope the children were either old enough to make it on without them, or found the help they needed :,(

>> No.15135609

>>15135582
If he was 50, his daughters would be in thier 30s. So not like the orphan daughters would be left on the street

>> No.15135623

>>15135609
>>15135606
I can only find a reference of him meeting his wife after 1991, so his daughters were at most 17 when he died, more likely in their teens

>> No.15135636

Starship WDR testing flopped

>> No.15135639

>>15135623
Ok digging more one of his daughter was allegedly 10

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>>15135639
c. 2007

>> No.15135648

>>15135131
What's the other one? Also
>slave labor
If only to ensure quality, I hope they don't get cheap on them.

>> No.15135652

>>15135168
He looks like my calc II teacher if he shaved.

>> No.15135663
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Finally we can do away with manned space flight.

>> No.15135665

>>15135648
https://spacewatch.global/2023/01/djibouti-signs-mou-to-develop-commercial-spaceport/
China's very interested in building a commercial spaceport in Djibouti. They've already got a very strategic naval facility near there at the mouth of the Red Sea and the launch facility might be built on land adjacent to an Chinese air base. I can't see them building pads for any of their big rockets there, but they might be able to offload a few of the smaller launchers their newspace imitators are working on.

Djibouti was actually a runner up to Kourou for Europe's spaceport back in the 70s but got dinged for being too politically unstable.

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3rd tower at starbase.

>>15135663

>> No.15135682

>>15135663
Boston Dynamics is cool but it would be nice if their robots were “smarter” .

You now remember TeslaBot

>> No.15135683

>>15135663
Costs $10 million for a piece right?

>> No.15135684

>>15135679
How long would that tAke? 3 years?

>> No.15135686

>>15135682
Tesla bot went from concept idea to prototype in 1 year. Its crazy how they progressed when no one thought it was possible.

Give it 1 more year and we'll see what real progress has been made

>> No.15135691

>>15135528
>"When I said I wanted the moon, Don, I meant the moon."

>> No.15135701
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>>15135679
Starbase is such a retarded design. They have all that land and they're cramming multiple towers, landing pads and fuel tanks in the same area as the ramp leading up to LC39.

>> No.15135713

>>15135701
>They have all that land
They dont.

>> No.15135718

>>15135665
Wouldn't Kenya or Tanzania be better choices for a spaceport? I don't know much about the regional politics but I do know enough to exclude Somalia right away.

>> No.15135719

>>15135701
SpaceX doesnt own those lands. Fed gov does. No way would they give away those lands to SpaceX. Biden admin hates Musk.

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https://twitter.com/eager_space/status/1615921247686389761
>Made this for my next video.
>Can you figure out the topic?
Damn I wonder what it will be about.

>> No.15135723

>>15135701
>all that land
It would be easier to land a manned mission on pluto in this decade than going against the light-years of redtape and endless regulations and bureaucracy that would be generated by trying to expand the launch site into those pristine, immaculate, beetle-filled wetlands.

>> No.15135725

>>15135718
Djbouti means they can monitor the Gulf, Saudis, Suez Canal, etc. In case of WW3 against US and allies. Do you really think Chinese are doing space for civilian use purpose?

>> No.15135726

>>15135722
EU shit?

>> No.15135728

>>15135725
I was thinking exactly that launching over there would cause issues with the Arabs, but you are probably right. Also, you mentioned Kourou so I just assumed this was about civilian uses.

>> No.15135734

>>15135719
>Fed gov does
TEXAS does, and Texas will happily hand over whatever land Spacex wants once Starship is flying regularly.
Spacex will probably need to pony up some cash for wetland preservation programs and build a state park visitor's center or two, but the Texas government will do everything they can once the success of that rocket is assured because it means keeping the main driver of an aerospace boom within the state.

>> No.15135736

>>15135728
Thats the other guy, but yeah, it serves as a multipronged geopolitical tool.

1) chinese space ambitions
2) military monitoring of warships/logistics so China wont be caught off guard + preliminary establishment of military forces
3) geopolitics signaling that China is serious about middle east/African with long term interest
4) flexing of economic/military might

>> No.15135737

>>15135736
>4) economic/military might
Also technological might

These geopolitical decisions aren't one dimensional, as people think they are, its multi-dimensional.

>> No.15135748

>>15135734
Texas is pretty protective of this kind of thing and the paperwork just for starship was already insane. I think they’ll just abandon starbase for anything but testing in < 3 years. They can launch a lot from Florida but can’t be risky. They have a small base in Texas but they can do whatever they want on what little they have.
Deimos and Phobos are probably 4-7 years from being used, depending on how the tower performs in testing and how much red tape they have to go through.

>> No.15135753

>>15135734
>>15135748
The fact of the matter is, Biden admin will make it a PR nightmare for SpaceX. If SpaceX chooses to fight it. Thats what stopped the initial expansion of Starbase in the first place and forced the 2 year delay of Starship.

>> No.15135758

>>15135722
Furry art

>> No.15135762

>>15135758
I hope an /sfg/ anon gets his own Starship someday and paint it with a Krystal silhouette.

>> No.15135769

>>15135753
The Biden admin has 1 (one) year left
>>15135748
When it comes down to it, Texas is perfectly happy to bend, break, or alter the rules for good business.

>> No.15135770

>>15135762
I do actually believe that if starship production reaches scale private individuals of a not-overly-remarkable-wealth will be able to buy their own. Problem is I doubt they’ll be able to buy their own tank farm, launch tower and super heavy. So all that would be leased from spacex
Tl;dr in 2 decades a YouTubers will buy retarded gucci starships

>> No.15135772

>>15135770
>in 2 decades a YouTubers will buy retarded gucci starships
suddenly I wish Starship fails completely
I'd take oldspace exploration over this

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>>15133780
Goddamit I hate congress

https://spacenews.com/nasa-scales-back-project-to-send-scientists-to-iss/

>> No.15135780

>>15135775
Flat budget, flat ambitions

>> No.15135781

>>15135769
NTA and just my two cents:
At least we don’t have a Beto administration
Abbot isn’t hostile towards SX
I still don’t think he realizes the potential though. I know Musk has met with abbott a lot, and has probably hyped up Austin and tesla and shit. But in my head I only see this going one way: SX moving everything to florida because texas just won’t move fast enough to accommodate them even if they are friendly

>> No.15135784

>>15135781
Tesla/SpaceX are rapidly expanding in Texas. Florida has no space for expansion while Texas does.

>> No.15135791

>>15135512
I would rather have lucky astronauts than smart ones.

>> No.15135793

>>15135781
Texas legislature has a lot of curmudgeons who see Starbase as a rich guy blowing up tin cans in the swamp as opposed to a real business venture, because it doesn't LOOK like the oldspace rocket development they're used to. Once Starship is actually proven viable, and Musk starts talking to them about bringing tens of thousands of jobs and hundreds of billions of dollars of revenue into the state, they'll bend over backwards to give him what he wants.

>> No.15135795

>>15135424
>Von Brawn Stack

>> No.15135809

>>15135399
Pluto Express (there's a kick stage in the payload bay and the entire rocket is being expended)

>> No.15135879

>>15135775
2 trillion for ukraine
20 billion for nasa

>> No.15135880

>>15135683
Atlas robots aren't for sale. But considering a Spot will cost you a minimum of 75,000$, an retail version of Atlas would probably go for around 500,000$.

>> No.15135882

Just woke up, how are the static fire preparations going?

>> No.15135897

>>15135882
hop soon

>> No.15135905

>>15135879
Thank you I am demoralized now

>> No.15135927

>>15135882
2 weeks

>> No.15136016

>>15135769
>The Biden admin has 1 (one) year left
It's almost exactly two years to the day until the next inauguration.

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>>15135244
what's the problem with being 'racist'?. articulate it.

>> No.15136038

>>15135426
this article convinced me NTP isnt worth is

>> No.15136054

>>15135569
Two failed WDR tests in a row makes me a happy doomer :)

>> No.15136062

>>15135809
>kick stage is just a 200 ton ion engine stage with a fuck ton of xenon and a reactor

>> No.15136065

>>15135879
killing russia is priceless

>> No.15136079

>>15135663
Random idea, wouldn't putting additional cameras and sensors in wrists and idk, knees on humanoid robot would increase greatly it's 'enviroment sensing ability'. If sensor would be closer to the ground it could check tarrain with greater precision, camera built into wrist hand, would allow robot to 'scan' items using his hand from close distance, and even measure it's dimensions better.

I know that robots should be humanoid to make for them easier to use machines made for humans but they don't need to go all the way with robots beeing 1:1 copy of humans

>> No.15136096

>>15135573
Most feasible is Northrop's station

>> No.15136108

>>15135663
can this company go bankrupt already? tired of seeing the same shit for 10 years and normies fellating them. ship a fucking product already.

>> No.15136170

>>15135663
>>15136108
lel I read that as "pick up a new set of skills and move on"

>> No.15136174

we can build a death star
>thats no moon
its a death star death star (from star wars star wars)
>it's more practical and makes my favorite show real
MAKE STAR WARS REAL I WANT TO MEET R2D2

>> No.15136175

POCKOCMOC

>> No.15136196

How do you get a astronauts baby to sleep?

You rocket

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ZUBRIN BROS
https://twitter.com/aj_fi/status/1616008869745987584

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>>15136174

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>>15136196

>> No.15136228

>>15136217
lmao I always forget this image exists and then it cracks me up every time I’m reminded of it

>> No.15136289

>>15136079
maybe, but whats the point?

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>>15136196
I see.

>> No.15136304

>The world launched 2,487 satellites into low-Earth orbit in 2022. It was only about five years ago that we were launching 100 or less a year.
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1616048041726722048

the future is bright

>> No.15136306

In Reusable mode, the maiaspace launcher will have 360 tons of thrust with a payload of 500 kg

>> No.15136314

>>15135879
That money wouldn't go to NASA anyway.

>> No.15136320

>>15136304
>the future is bright
For astronomers.

>> No.15136321

>>15136304
>gorillions of nanosatellites the size of a grapefruit
>shitlink
nothingburger

>> No.15136323

>>15136321
Cope

>> No.15136330

>>15136306
meh.

>> No.15136333

https://youtu.be/uUG4VsCFiZ8

>> No.15136362
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1982
>4 shuttle missions
>3 soyuz missions
2022
>3 dragon missions
>2 soyuz missions
>2 shenzhou missions

we're still trying to catch up to where we were FOUR DECADES ago

>> No.15136371

>>15136362
To be fair shuttle was running on as many cylinders as possible, and 4 per year was pretty good considering how shit it turned out compared to the original design
Falcon could be launching a Dragon every week if it needed to.

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>>15136371
>Falcon could be launching a Dragon every week if it needed to.
/sfg/ is so delusional

>> No.15136385

LIVE

https://youtu.be/bNAebzSvWt4

T-10 min

>> No.15136386

>>15136381
If they NEEDED to I said. Obviously this would mean they would build more dragons to rotate through as they were being refurbished, and assumed nothing else like starlink is being launched.
It’s a hypothetical. If we needed to put 4 humans in orbit every week for whatever reason, it could be done with Falcon. This would be impossible with shuttle

>> No.15136389

>>15136385
Another one?

>> No.15136391

that intro sucks

>> No.15136393

https://youtu.be/BBT7QUih3vc

>> No.15136394
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white falcon, that's a rare sight

>> No.15136397

>>15136381
>>15136371
it's closer to one a month for pad refurb, yeah? They only have the one pad

>> No.15136401

DECOLLAGE

>> No.15136402

ria is so cute

>> No.15136405

>>15136394
None but the King may launch the white stag.

>> No.15136408

posting from my Starlink watching a Starlink launch

>> No.15136414
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>> No.15136420

>>15136414
It's odd how the ice just stays there and wobbles around

>> No.15136422

>>15136420
it's in a divot where the exhaust thing does the stuff there on the engine bell

>> No.15136423

That rocket scared the fuck outta me, sounded a lot louder than usual and woke me up.

>> No.15136424

They make it looks so simple.

>> No.15136425

>>15136423
WAKE UP

>> No.15136427

>Clear says of course I still love you

>> No.15136428

>>15136424
Can't wait to see the chinese F9 knockoff attempt its landing

>> No.15136430

SpaceX should have chat enabled on the stream

>> No.15136429

>>15136333
God i love her so fucking much bros, how do i meet her IRL????

>> No.15136433

>>15136428
They did it once and cut off the last part of the footage

>> No.15136434

>>15136429
That's a man.

>> No.15136439

>>15136434
man cant sing like an angel

>> No.15136444

>>15136439
I can.

>> No.15136449

>>15136439
voice changers are very good these days

>> No.15136450

>>15136428
they did and it just slammed into the ground
suicide landing require insanely good throttle control

>> No.15136453

>>15136439
Wrong.
https://youtu.be/vF2crB_RcLc

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15136456

Are there any concrete plans for an Artemis base camp?

>> No.15136458

>>15136456
According to the latest OIG report, no.
lol

>> No.15136459

>>15136456
starship hls and maybe a rover. there's a hab concept floating around but it's a generic image.

>> No.15136464

>>15136456
No because Starship doesnt exist in the minds of current NASA admin nor the partners of NASA because acknowledging it means doom for them.

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>>15136456
It will be a horizontal Starship covered with regolith, h8rs btfo

>> No.15136515

>>15136456
cuck shed the size of a single ISS module

that will be 5 billion dollars plus tip

>> No.15136521
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15136521

>>15136198
It’s real

>> No.15136528

>>15136521
Theres lot of Chinese Elon fans, so its to be expected. Even though the demoncrats hate Musk, the world still likes him.

>> No.15136593

WDR today?

>> No.15136596

>>15136593
Just like yesterday and the day before.

>> No.15136599

>>15136593
Orbital launch today

>> No.15136618

>>15136596
wait so yes? :o

>> No.15136627

>>15136521
uhhhh good luck with the launch table i guess

>> No.15136628

>>15136618
>>15136593
No closures till monday

>> No.15136629

Literally how the hell is Vostochny not finished yet

>> No.15136631

>>15136628
It's over

>> No.15136644

>>15136629
embezzlement

>> No.15136648

>>15136644
good point

>> No.15136651

>spacex to launch near 100 missions this year
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1616101666280939521

wtf

>> No.15136654

>>15136651
That’s just berger edging himself. Obviously extrapolating from just 5 launches is retarded

>> No.15136663

>>15136651
>only 5 launches
>on pace for 96
Say that again after they launch at least 50

>> No.15136668

>>15136663
They launched 60 ;)

>> No.15136672

>>15136668
I think that anon meant this year

>> No.15136674

>>15133789
why doesn't F9 have always deployed gridfins?

>> No.15136677

https://archive.is/qa4fK
>“This is not routine,” said Benjamin Reed, the senior director of human spaceflight programs at SpaceX. “Years lead up to our launches, and especially these big NASA launches.”
>He said that before humanity can colonize Mars, spaceflight must become as normal as air travel. “But you never want your airplane pilot, your control tower people, to say, ‘Oh, this is just routine.’”
>Mars will require the company to launch “multiple times a day, every day, all the time,” Mr. Reed said. “What people have to understand is that it takes a lot to get there, and we’re not anywhere close yet.”

>> No.15136679

>>15135281
I'm flying drones with a weight over 250g without a loicence what the FAA gon do about it?

>> No.15136680

>>15136674
Starship is so big that the difference is negligible. F9 is way smaller and the relative drag is way too much to just ignore it

>> No.15136681
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Shuttle is iconic in a way no capsule can ever be

>> No.15136684

>>15136677
ooo archive link isn't banned anymore?

https://archive.is/qa4fK

>> No.15136688

>>15136198
>steel tank and methane engine on ground
Arianespace is literally doing the same but people laugh at them

>> No.15136691

>>15135587
>SpaceX reserves 2-3 day periods in advance for backup testing dates. If test is success, they cancel the other dates.
so they need to tell the FAA if their test was a success or not?

>> No.15136693

>>15136691
FAA is in the control room. They give the green light on whether SpaceX can test or not.

>> No.15136697

>>15136677
True, we are still very far from the colony on Mars, but with a proper funding, a manned outpost on Mars is possible in the next decade. That's how you start after all. You won't be sending thousands of people every synod.

>> No.15136698

>>15135679
I thought there was only one

>> No.15136700

>>15136698
They designed for 2. But due to regulatory approvals delays, they stripped it down to one. Now they're scaling it back and adding additional towers.

Musk thought he had free clearance to do rocket launches in the middle of nowhere but FAA didn't like that at all. So he scaled it down to bare minimum to get the approval fastest. Additional infrastructure will come when program matures.

>> No.15136704

>>15136450
>suicide landing require insanely good throttle control
and insanely good programming.

>> No.15136705

>>15136456
Italy is working on it
>>15136521
I like how slender it is

>> No.15136709

>>15136680
I'd still make them stick out for the reliability increase

>> No.15136717

Chopsticks being installed at the 39A starship pad

>> No.15136723
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>>15135435
I couldn't believe this was really in the article

>> No.15136728

>>15136704
I would say control engineering is beyond simple programming (not that all programming is simple, but its a different field)

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>Stainless steel
>Crossfeed
>Mass Produced

Kneel

>> No.15136734

Could crossfeed FH get Orion to the moon?

>> No.15136736

>>15136709
Bruh what? It would kill falcon lmao
>>15136729
I kneel

>> No.15136753

Cross-feeding? I reckon it's proper that cores only use their own fuel.

>> No.15136755

>>15136734
Yes but I think the center of mass would be really fucked, along with the aerodynamic profile. You’d be better off sending some sort of TLI service module up on a FH and then rendezvousing a F9-dragon with it a few days later if you’re looking to get rid of SLS

>> No.15136759

>>15136729
Ariane 4 was so kino

>> No.15136768

stage
>>15136767
>>15136767
>>15136767

>> No.15136770

>>15136728
math?

>> No.15136774

>>15136736
>Bruh what? It would kill falcon lmao
why?

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>>15133780
Help making a turbopump pls.
I was building a hydrogen peroxide rocket engine and everything was going great - The gimbal is working beautifuly, the aerospike nozzle turned out better than I expected and I was on the verge of victory.
But then the time came to work on the turbopumps, and it seems that I've hit a wall. Spiral centrifugal pumps are a pain to model in the software I use, 3d printed PLA isnt strong enough to resist high RPM (specially when submerged in liquid) and since I'm working with 20mm pipes anything I design turns out so big it takes 7+ hours to print.
I thought of making a sort of inverted car engine where the axis would spin, moving pistons up and down and thus moving the liquid, but moving multiple o-rings up and down would require high torque, which PLA cant handle.
Help pls.

>> No.15136791

>>15136593
Inshallah WDR Monday

>> No.15136819

>>15136679
I'm calling them right now, get fucked

>> No.15136826

>>15136779
now you know why space is hard