/sfg/ - Space Flight General

[Anonymous No.15127327]

Space force edition
previous : >>15123361

[Anonymous No.15127332]

USSF-67 Mission
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aaguyk2TjaI

[Anonymous No.15127334]

>>15127327
First for USA

[Anonymous No.15127335]

A TOAST TO A SUCCESSFUL FALCON HEAVY SPACE FORCE LAUNCH

[Anonymous No.15127336]

have these streams been used for ads before?
I don't remember this before
maybe this is just a special thing for the military

[Anonymous No.15127337]

>>15127327
https://youtu.be/nfxyF1_Ylkk
https://youtu.be/PCitZJD_nn4
https://youtu.be/gnt2wZBg89g
https://youtu.be/qsAr_4MEmK4
T-00:08:20 till kino

[Anonymous No.15127339]

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1614754358813675520

Twitter stream which is a bit earlier than youtube stream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfxyF1_Ylkk

[Anonymous No.15127342]

First for sunset launch

[Anonymous No.15127345]

U
S
A

[Anonymous No.15127346]

>>15127336
yes, always

[Anonymous No.15127347]

>>15127332
kek, clear is so great

[Anonymous No.15127350]

why is spacex revealing trade secrets live?

[Anonymous No.15127354]

What is Jessie's job?

[Anonymous No.15127355]

>>15127350
like what?

[Anonymous No.15127359]

USA
USA
USA
USA

[Anonymous No.15127360]

>>15127350
To dab on ULA and China

[Anonymous No.15127361]

LAUNCH IS HARD

[Anonymous No.15127363]

LAUNCH
IS
HARD

[Anonymous No.15127364]

She's loaded

[Anonymous No.15127365]

>>15127354
some kind of engineer I think

[Anonymous No.15127366]

How much payload could a fully expended Falcon Heavy put into LEO?

[Anonymous No.15127367]

SPACE
IS
HARD

[Anonymous No.15127368]

1 MINUTE

[Anonymous No.15127372]

>>15127365
>Jesse ywn be your boss

[Anonymous No.15127374]

GODSPEED FH

[Anonymous No.15127375]

>>15127367
Like my dick

[Anonymous No.15127376]

I
AM
HARD

[Anonymous No.15127377]

>>15127366
64 tons

[Anonymous No.15127378]

>>15127354
She's a tight little piece

[Anonymous No.15127379]

Oh no it exploded

[Anonymous No.15127380]

we are GO

[Anonymous No.15127381]

GO

[Anonymous No.15127382]

[Anonymous No.15127383]

LIFTOFF

[Anonymous No.15127385]

LIFTOFF

[Anonymous No.15127387]

DECOLLAGE

[Anonymous No.15127389]

Bueno how the engine light up blacks out the entire sky. It's breath taking how hard SpaceX mogs on the entire industry. Falcon 9 lands, Falcon Heavy lands, Starship lands, SuperHeavy is expected to land/be caught by the tower. Where the fuck is the competition?

[Anonymous No.15127391]

Space jellyfish soon!

[Anonymous No.15127397]

[Anonymous No.15127399]

when the kino hits

[Anonymous No.15127400]

boosters coming back

[Anonymous No.15127401]

[B]ECO

[Anonymous No.15127402]

wtf, you could see boosters shifting around

[Anonymous No.15127403]

>>15127391
>Dual jellyfish
FUCKING KINO

[Anonymous No.15127404]

>>15127400

Dual booster ignition caught on camera is fucking magical

[Anonymous No.15127405]

Dat reignition. Holy kino.

[Anonymous No.15127406]

god I love roggets

[Anonymous No.15127407]

That's a really good view of the boosters even without the jellyfish.

[Anonymous No.15127408]

OMG UFOs

[Anonymous No.15127410]

ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL, FLAWLESS

[Anonymous No.15127411]

So sexy

[Anonymous No.15127412]

SOMEONE WEBM THIS WOAH

[Anonymous No.15127414]

>brief view of the rocket from the pad
this launch is a hoax confirmed

[Anonymous No.15127415]

REVERT TO LAUNCH

[Anonymous No.15127416]

>>15127414
>>15127415

[Anonymous No.15127417]

ahh? what happened?

[Anonymous No.15127418]

prerecorded launch confirmed

[Anonymous No.15127420]

> SpaceX is raping every other space lunch companies again

[Anonymous No.15127421]

>>15127415
Kek

[Anonymous No.15127422]

wow dem pulsed burns

[Anonymous No.15127425]

lol jessie is sick

[Anonymous No.15127426]

THEY ARE SHOOTING LASERS, LIKE IN STAR WARS

[Anonymous No.15127427]

>>15127420
Remember that this is flying under the same contract that Vulcan was also selected for, which won't fly security payloads for another year

[Anonymous No.15127428]

SNIFF

[Anonymous No.15127429]

>>15127422
Not burns, just cold gas thrusters

[Anonymous No.15127430]

>163rd & 164th landing

Jesus. That's such an insane industry advantage compared to literally the entire planet.

[Anonymous No.15127432]

[Anonymous No.15127433]

HERE WE GO

[Anonymous No.15127434]

they will nail the landing

[Anonymous No.15127436]

[clapping intensifies]

[Anonymous No.15127438]

scuffed landing view, though the drone shot is nice

[Anonymous No.15127439]

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[Anonymous No.15127442]

>another successful dual landing

[Anonymous No.15127445]

[Anonymous No.15127444]

most kino mission of the year so far.

[Anonymous No.15127446]

>successful landing of both boosters
>only showing one of them
ok

[Anonymous No.15127447]

The landing is good!

[Anonymous No.15127448]

>>15127427
Vulcan won't fly for at least another year.

[Anonymous No.15127449]

EAT IT JEFF

[Anonymous No.15127450]

> CAN'T
> STOP
> WINNING

[Anonymous No.15127451]

Aww could have shown the two landing in one shot, hopefully they share the video later

[Anonymous No.15127453]

>booster on the side pad is off the x
it's over

[Anonymous No.15127452]

EZPZ, nice landing(s)

[Anonymous No.15127455]

>>15127438
yeah, they just showed one of them
lol

[Anonymous No.15127459]

>land boosters
>instantly end stream
chad

[Anonymous No.15127460]

>asynchronous landing

[Anonymous No.15127465]

>>15127427
vulcan must fly 3 times before it's allowed to launch space force missions. maybe check back in 2025

[Anonymous No.15127466]

SpaceX just can't stop winning

[Anonymous No.15127467]

https://twitter.com/VirtuallyNathan/status/1614487490169311232

Interesting, there really is synergy between Tesla and SpaceX

[Anonymous No.15127468]

meanwhile europ is barely moving forward with a grasshopper clone

[Anonymous No.15127469]

>>15127467
collusion

[Anonymous No.15127470]

Is there any benefit to SpaceX launching from that spaceport in Virginia that Rocket Lab uses?

[Anonymous No.15127471]

[Anonymous No.15127472]

>>15127455
the second was classified

[Anonymous No.15127473]

>>15127469
lmao

[Anonymous No.15127479]

landing count
>spacex: 164
>rest of the world combined: 0
it's not even a competition

[Anonymous No.15127480]

https://youtu.be/Aaguyk2TjaI
what is she saying bros?

[Anonymous No.15127481]

>>15127355
They're showing that it really is that way in rocketry

[Anonymous No.15127482]

driving around, saw the launch by accident
cool

[Anonymous No.15127483]

>>15127480
>she

[Anonymous No.15127484]

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[Anonymous No.15127488]

>>15127470
Not really necessary. Wallops would probably have fewer range closures but SpaceX basically is the range at this point. If they needed more infrastructure for more launches, a third Cape pad would probably be better. Plus Wallops is closer to the public (similar to Starbase) and so rockets of that size may run into approval trouble.

[Anonymous No.15127490]

[Anonymous No.15127491]

>>15127480
sugoi mishun kontoru

[Anonymous No.15127493]

>>15127467
Duh. They did a survey last year of where engineers want to go work after they graduate. A worldwide survey. Number 1 and 2 spots are Tesla & SpaceX respectively, the latter is limited to US only due to ITAR. But both companies get to pick from the 1% and 0.1% of the world's talent respectively. Elon confirmed at AI Day 2 that a lot of talent they get in interviews bluntly tell their interviewers "I only applied here because I want the right to work at SpaceX or Tesla."

All the electric motors used by SpaceX for Starship are Model 3 motors. The same battery pack that goes into Model 3, 65kW packs, are used to control the grid fins of SuperHeavy and power the avionics. The gigacasting alloy was developed by SpaceX in partnership with Tesla's material science division. The other space companies aren't competing with SpaceX, they're competing with SpaceX+Tesla. The other auto companies aren't competing with Tesla. They're competing with Tesla+SpaceX.

The same 304 alloy being used in Starship is also being used by the Cybertruck. The cross-polination of talent across these two companies is absolutely off the charts.

[Anonymous No.15127495]

>>15127480
Apparently she's explaining the launch better than the normiefags that SpaceX uses as announcers on their streams. (who are still better than the diversity hires on NASA streams)

[Anonymous No.15127496]

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[Anonymous No.15127500]

>>15127493
Saves a lot of R/D cost when its shared resources

[Anonymous No.15127501]

>>15127482
I've only seen the jellyfish once when I was in South Carolina. It was before sunrise, an incredible sight

[Anonymous No.15127502]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPMwu04VF38

[Anonymous No.15127503]

[Anonymous No.15127505]

>>15127499
>have two perfectly good views of both boosters
>show neither
AGHHHH

[Anonymous No.15127507]

>>15127490
I love the weird effect at the boundary between the different plumes

[Anonymous No.15127508]

>>15127500
More than that, it ensures that you never lose talent as any time an engineer gets bored, they have an option to go challenge themselves in a similar discipline in a different industry altogether but under the same parent leadership effectively. You'll certainly lose some % to burnout and some other % to retirement; but overall attrition at SpaceX/Tesla is probably low relative to other corporations by merit that there's no shortage of next-generation platforms to dedicate intellectual capital towards that has the potential to change the world in ways that other companies cannot provide. The R&D cost savings is purely ancillary to this strategic element.

[Anonymous No.15127509]

A while back, there was an anon looking for an unnamed track from one of the launch streams.

I think I found it.

https://soundcloud.com/testshotstarfish/unicorns-in-space-1

[Anonymous No.15127510]

>>15127503
you can literally see the string that one of the boosters is falling along to guide it in, what a fraud

[Anonymous No.15127513]

>>15127493
>The same 304 alloy being used in Starship is also being used by the Cybertruck.
wasn't 304 invented long ago?

[Anonymous No.15127514]

It’s wild that Falcon Heavy boosters can be refitted for normal F9 launches

[Anonymous No.15127519]

When is Starliner flying btw?

[Anonymous No.15127522]

>>15127510
kek

[Anonymous No.15127525]

>>15127493
>The other auto companies aren't competing with Tesla. They're competing with Tesla+SpaceX.
Don't really see what the big synergy from SpaceX to Tesla is. Tesla had to slash vehicle prices just now. They're against vigorous competitors compared to what SpaceX is up against in aerospace. I guess avionics and instrumentation have something to share.

[Anonymous No.15127526]

https://twitter.com/cknasaboy/status/1614762432705994752
more kino maybe incoming

[Anonymous No.15127531]

>>15127519
April

[Anonymous No.15127532]

>>15127509
Yeah Test Shot Starfish finally released their album fairly recently, which includes the rest of the tracks SpaceX were using for the last few years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtppM1Opn_g&list=OLAK5uy_kqTEJb2-ziYrlXk83ePGqqYnsyvG-YLGE

[Anonymous No.15127534]

>>15127502
2022 cadence is insane and only getting crazier, starship has big shoes to fill

[Anonymous No.15127537]

>>15127513
Yes, but the point I was trying to make and I guess I failed to make, is that when cybertruck enters volume production at Giga-Austin, the distance engineers at Starbase, TX have to travel north to get to Austin is like 4-5 hours by car or a 1-2 hour flight. Elon can via Tesla submit a consultation contract to SpaceX in assistance of ramping 304SS technologies at volume production. In return for X million paid to SpaceX, 1-2% of their 304SS engineers at Starsbase are sent up for 1-2 months time to assist with the ramp and then they return.

While they're at Austin, in addition to helping the factory ramp, they can also chime in with their aerospace material science knowledge and things they've advanced that can have a materially accelerating effect on Cybertruck production. Knowledge stays in house and is applied uniformly in exponentially beneficail ways.

I'm fully a believer that by 2027-208, there will be at least 1 contract from SpaceX to Tesla to modify a 500mi Semi into a modular vehicle that can be compartmentalized into Cargo Starships to Moon/Mars for delivery of 1-10 vehicles over several vessels in the form of rovers/mobile habs.

Like consider the fact that Tesla Semi can do 500mi range at 81,000lbs of load. How difficult would it be to build an RV using the semi as a base, but go the extra engineering step to ensure that its aerospace certified in the form of a sealed environment and has a mobile airlock/docking bay for AI drones or Tesla bots? SpaceX has said that they don't want to do everything themselves once Starship starts flying, but will engage in such actions if they see no other option. So much stuff is being built at Tesla that synergizes with long-term Mars colonization goals, its scary if you extrapolate out just a little bit.

[Anonymous No.15127540]

>>15127534
A big bottleneck for Falcon 9 was a lack of payloads. Starship will pretty much be forced to fly 24/7. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see monthly launches next year

[Anonymous No.15127544]

>>15127534
Now show Soyuz

[Anonymous No.15127545]

>>15127526
>https://youtu.be/B1R3dTdcpSU
>this video but with booster separation and boost back burn

[Anonymous No.15127546]

>>15127525
>They're against vigorous competitors compared to what SpaceX is up against in aerospace.
Retard moment.

1. They slashed prices because BOM dropped
2. They slashed prices so that they could take full advantage of the IRA, which the IRS was screwing them out of on arbitrary basis even though NHTSA and EPA both were qualifying their vehicles properly
3. They slashed prices because they literally can do so and still maintain margins above their competitors.
4. Them slashing prices now forces everyone else to slash their prices to compete with Tesla, and in doing so, they literally lose money on each vehicle sold, which drives down their volume production and drives them out of the market faster.

They have no real competition. Give me the financial reports from any other "competitor" which says that for every EV we sell, we make at least 20% margin on the car. I'll wait.

[Anonymous No.15127547]

This is gonna sound stupid but the Space Force could launch astronauts on an X-37 and we wouldn’t know.

[Anonymous No.15127548]

>>15127537
A semi-truck on Mars makes zero sense. You don't need torque, you don't need a cab, you're never going above MAYBE 10-20km/h, and you do need more than 5cm of suspension travel. I'd agree that Tesla might build a rover for SpaceX at some point, but I would also bet that it's going to be purpose built, or at least closer to something like the cybertruck

[Anonymous No.15127549]

>>15127546
Yeah;
>2022 ev sales US
1) Tesla: 522,388
2) Ford: 61,575
3) Hyundai/Kia/Genesis: 56,248
4) VW Group: 43,959
5) GM: 39,251

[Anonymous No.15127550]

>>15127545
Don't give me hope
Near the terminator... that would be unmatched

[Anonymous No.15127551]

>>15127547
Imagine the tight quarters. Imagine the rationing. Imagine waiting in the fairing for days.

[Anonymous No.15127552]

>>15127493
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Spacex, is in fact, Tesla/Spacex, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Tesla plus Spacex. Spacex is not a company unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Tesla system made useful by the Tesla material divison, batteries and engines.

[Anonymous No.15127555]

>>15127549
Now Mach Es are like 15-20K more expensive than Teslas. Which is insane.

[Anonymous No.15127556]

>>15127544
long march 2 flew more than soyuz last year. soyuz cadence will continue to fall

[Anonymous No.15127558]

[Anonymous No.15127560]

>>15127546
Don't forget the most important part. Interest rate hikes. 8% interest rates on cars is insane. The more expensive a product is, the less consumers are willing to buy now.

[Anonymous No.15127563]

>>15127548
Anon come on. I didn't say a semi-truck on Mars, I said to use the frame of the Semi, build out an "RV" but engineer it for aerospace requirements and you basically have a mobile hab or long-duration exploration rover for Moon/Mars. All the foundational building blocks are there to take advantage of the existing platform and massively improve utility without needing to reinvent the wheel. Yeah, the Semi on Moon or Mars wouldn't need 3 Model 3 motors, even 1 would be overkill given the very low gravity and no atmosphere or 1% Earth's atmosphere. But that just means that 500mi @ 1G would translate into 690mi on a single charge on Mars, but let's say 500mi actual because 190mi of battery would go into life support, heating, and general use of the vehicle and 915mi on the Moon cause 17% Earth's gravity, drop that another 200mi for general use/heating/life support and you get a 700mi exploration vehicle.

I know I'm making a lot of assumptions here and simplifying things massively, but the Semi "platform" engineered into a modular exploration rover for either celestial body, means that you don't need to land at multiple close proximity sites around these bodies. You can have your pick of landing sites within 500mi of the first landing site for future hab drops/outposts/etc. The mission flexibility on that is stunning.

[Anonymous No.15127565]

>no nic ansuini photos
harmony

[Anonymous No.15127566]

>>15127558
If only the side booster plumes were bigger. It would've made a glorious, fiery cock and balls.

[Anonymous No.15127567]

>>15127563
nta, please learn to write concisely

[Anonymous No.15127569]

>>15127555
With the IRA accounted for, that would drop the Mach-E price to being 7.5-12.5k more expensive than the Tesla. Its statistically unlikely that Ford can afford to drop prices of their Mach-E by another 10k and make profits on the vehicles or they can, but the margins per sale would be crushed to probably sub 5%, which is garbage if your competitor is going to be making around 23-24% per vehicle sold despite their price cuts. Literally translating as you'd needing to sell 4x more vehicles to make the sale of 1 of your competitor. Except your competitor has a nation wide dedicated Supercharger network that works basically 99% of the time, and the third party network you rely on has a 40-50% failure rate across the board.

[Anonymous No.15127570]

>>15127558

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>>15127560
That fact just rubs salt onto an open wound.

[Anonymous No.15127573]

>>15127563
>I said to use the frame of the Semi
What, including the fifth-wheel coupling? It's not going to happen.
>Semi with a different body, frame, suspension, motors, transmission, electronics, battery, etc.
A purpose built vehicle. But sure, it might have some Tesla derived technology.

[Anonymous No.15127574]

>>15127560
Why would anyone take a loan for a car?

[Anonymous No.15127575]

>>15127567
I'll think about it.

[Anonymous No.15127578]

>>15127574
why would you buy a depreciating asset in cash?

[Anonymous No.15127580]

>>15127574
Because its smarter to take a loan than to save up money to buy a car. For any new car/house/etc. Without loan, you'd never be able to buy a new car and enjoy life, until your 40s/50s/etc. Which is nonsense.

[Anonymous No.15127585]

>>15127580
>Without loan, you'd never be able to buy a new car and enjoy life, until your 40s/50s/etc.
Just don't be poor lol

[Anonymous No.15127587]

>>15127573
>different body, frame, suspension, motors, transmission, electronics, battery, etc.
nigga you nani?

Why the fuck would any of that need to be different?

[Anonymous No.15127589]

>>15127578
Why take a loan for a depreciating asset?

[Anonymous No.15127590]

>>15127585
How?

[Anonymous No.15127592]

>>15127585
Right. Someone on /o/ was saying a while ago how you should only buy cars with 10% of income. Which is nonsense. That just means for a new 46K car, you'd need half a million in income. The definition of "poor" just becomes a joke at this point. Functionally speaking, you can buy any new avg car if you make an avg of 40-60K a year in US with just 5-6 year loan easily.

Then you have to get into the question of how to buy a house with 10% net income and not taking loans. The "spent only cash" argument is bullshit.

[Anonymous No.15127593]

>>15127493
The vehicles from both these companies strongly share a design language.
Why don't they lean more into this in the marketing? I know they don't do traditional ads, but at least hint at the similarities between the car and the spacecraft, like come on it's not that hard

[Anonymous No.15127597]

[Anonymous No.15127598]

>>15127592
car prices should be price-capped by the government. This is insane

[Anonymous No.15127599]

>>15127578
Imagine caring about the resale value of a car.

[Anonymous No.15127600]

>>15127598
You don't need a brand new car.

[Anonymous No.15127601]

>>15127598
Its better to just migrate to America and get a job. Your third world country can try to enforce price-caps, but there wont be any car makers at that point

[Anonymous No.15127602]

Why is SpaceX so kino?

[Anonymous No.15127604]

>>15127598
LOL. reminder that traditional automotive margins are below 10%

[Anonymous No.15127605]

>>15127601
>migrate to America
That's nearly impossible with your immigration laws.

[Anonymous No.15127608]

>>15127602
soul

[Anonymous No.15127610]

>>15127605
Quarter of a million people cross into US from mexico each month.

[Anonymous No.15127614]

>>15127589
because if the interest is low, which is usually is, it makes more sense to invest that cash instead of saving and buying a car with it

[Anonymous No.15127616]

>>15127599
I do since I almost never drive plus EVs have great resale value

[Anonymous No.15127617]

>>15127600
yeah but this is like a school uniform issue

[Anonymous No.15127619]

>>15127604
Yet they still somehow cost too fucking much

[Anonymous No.15127621]

>>15127619
It wont fit!!

[Anonymous No.15127622]

>>15127599
Some do because it means you can sell a car you own for 2-3 years to close to retail value, then buy a new car

[Anonymous No.15127624]

>>15127593
Well, Elon appointed Tom Zhu to be the head of North America sales just recently. I suspect that they'll start leaning into this in the near future once they get closer to cybertruck launch and also launch of Highlander (which is the Gen2 Model 3 design launch). Tesla does proper marketing in China, but the market there is so massive, they have to. Incidentally, the marketing Tesla does in China if you look at their Tesla China youtube page, is top fucking tier. That's not to say that Tesla doesn't market in the US, they do; as they have a Flickr Page, an instagram page, a twitter, and youtube page. They have all the common avenues to do this. They just haven't, because without needing to, they've maintained their dominating position and now with the recent price cuts, they basically are going to pull way ahead yet again--as others just can't slash prices to the same degree without zeroing out their margins, dropping them to sub 5%, or driving them negative. All three of which are variable ranges of bad to catastrophic.

I believe Tesla's logic in NoA is that "why bother to advertise, when nobody's really catching even with the friggin' government putting its thumb on the scale?" Which, to reiterate from above, is different in China, because there are already established EV players there and they're all copying Tesla 1:1 way more seriously than anyone in NoA is. So the "threat" is actually credible.

[Anonymous No.15127625]

>>15127619
ridiculous

[Anonymous No.15127628]

>>15127589
So that I'm not cash poor

[Anonymous No.15127629]

>>15127602
Cause the understand what it means to be genre savvy. Competitors and other companies are still playing from the old playbook. SpaceX is literally saying "its a new frontier, craft your own playbook". But everyone else is too much of a pussy to take the wheel.

[Anonymous No.15127632]

>>15127624
roadster when?

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[Anonymous No.15127635]

>>15127619
Blame the unions. No place touched my the management of an automotive union is run with anything resembling efficiency.

[Anonymous No.15127638]

>>15127610
legal vs. illegal immigration dipshit

[Anonymous No.15127640]

>>15127632
After Cybertruck reaches volume production and once they finalize their Gen3 platform. It's a halo product, and the Model S PLAID still crushes like everything short of a 1-3M hypercar, despite being basically a family sedan. Its capabilities are kinda absurd.

[Anonymous No.15127641]

https://www.ninfinger.org/karld/My%20Space%20Museum/apollocams.htm
Will Artemis have any kino analog cameras or will it be all gay digital bullshit?

[Anonymous No.15127642]

>>15127638
Doesn't matter if Biden doesnt enforce border policy

[Anonymous No.15127646]

>>15127640
>Its capabilities are kinda absurd.
Yeah. supercar owners about to get mogged hard

[Anonymous No.15127647]

>>15127641
You think Artemis will have any sovl to speak of?

[Anonymous No.15127649]

>>15127632
hasn't been any talk of it in like years at this point, who knows if its even happening anymore
model s plaid already has the acceleration that the roadster was supposed to have and at this point its friction limited, you need special tires and a special surface to get quicker
or do it with something like cold gas thrusters that elon has talked about, but idk how those would be road legal

[Anonymous No.15127652]

>>15127646
No, I meant that the capabilities of the model S plaid are absurd. Roadster2 takes that and dials it up to a level that pissed off Aizen when he fought Ichigo.

[Anonymous No.15127654]

>>15127638
we're doing immigration amnesty soon, so you better get your ass over here before it's too late

[Anonymous No.15127656]

>>15127602
I don't think it's their spacecraft designs, as much as their ambition/goals. Don't get me wrong, as far as their designs go, nothing comes remotely close to the black and white minimalism of Falcon/Dragon, or the metallic industrial utilitarianism of Starship, but SpaceX isn't defined by them. If their vehicles were boring looking like the long march series or Vega or something, but they kept the same goal of Mars, they'd still be kino. Building out a Mars colony with the most mediocre spacecraft possible would be dumb, but still awesome. They'd have to rely on Cyclers, Orbital Assembly, and multiple launches a day, which again, is still kino because the end goal is a Mars colony

[Anonymous No.15127657]

>>15127652
they have to start looking at other specs instead of acceleration, try to make it the best overall in everything or something (not just acceleration and range)

[Anonymous No.15127660]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1614775803644116993

[Anonymous No.15127663]

>>15127656
Starships' industrial/brutalist approach is imo peak design

[Anonymous No.15127666]

>>15127641
>pic
Hijacking this to ask, will Artemis have technical diagram kino of all the different components?

[Anonymous No.15127668]

>>15127663
easy and cheap to mass manufacture and repair

[Anonymous No.15127670]

Kino

[Anonymous No.15127671]

>>15127652
kek Rimac Nevera has basically the same acceleration and cost 2 million

[Anonymous No.15127676]

>>15127660
Those clouds look like that potato twist thing that Elon was deepthroating at that mexican parade a while back

[Anonymous No.15127677]

>>15127641
>>15127647
cringe

[Anonymous No.15127679]

>>15127670
we truly live in the future

[Anonymous No.15127680]

>>15127670
https://twitter.com/ValaAfshar/status/1614339939101036544

[Anonymous No.15127682]

>>15127680
https://twitter.com/MarcusHouse/status/1613326396520271873

Blast from the past.

[Anonymous No.15127684]

>>15127680
isnt this old?

[Anonymous No.15127685]

>>15127684
Yep, its older, but I think from the same spot

[Anonymous No.15127693]

>>15127660
this is such a bad picture, what is even going there

[Anonymous No.15127700]

>>15127680
the forbidden ponytail + backward baseball cap combo

[Anonymous No.15127702]

>>15127693
It looks like it disintegrated lmao

[Anonymous No.15127707]

>>15127663
What I like the most about starship is how they aren't treated like anything special. A starship just one of many, mass produced, identical to all the others. Maybe the people taking long journeys in them will find some sentimental value in them, giving them a name and whatnot, but in the end, there'll be thousands, none of them having a special place in the public's heart save for the ones that complete special milestones. This is the way it should be.

[Anonymous No.15127711]

>>15127657
While I agree with you philosophically, I'm not sure there's an argument to be made technically. The Model S PLAID already pushes the boundary on what is "street legal". I mean consider the facts:

https://youtu.be/4XkimCgo2yg & https://youtu.be/qR18qkdCgS4

A family sedan is smoking a 3.5M+ hypercar. Yes, its a 1/4mi drag race, and the Bugatti would win at 1/2mi and beyond. But real talk, when a 125k mass production vehicle has a 1 second+ lead on a hand crafted and tuned hypercar, going further from there becomes a bit of a joke. And the problem is that, its unlikely that the cold gas thruster package that Elon spitballed is going to be street legal.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/question633.htm

1G linearly experienced translates to 22mph. Going to 0-60 in 1.9 seconds means you'd experience 2.7 Gees during the acceleration profile. I did an anecdotal test. Takes me average 30ms to blink. 190ms = 1.9 seconds. 30ms per blink means 6.3 blinks. That means with a Roadster2 with cold gas thrusters for initial acceleration would translate into 0.42G linear force for every blink I do. Nearly half a gee per blink. That doesn't sound like a lot, but that's a lot. 0.42G per 30ms is a fucking lot. Plus the deceleration force experienced would be just as bad.

You'd probably be able to drag race a roadster like 2-3x max before you'd puke guts. That and anyone getting into an accident with a Roadster2 is not going to survive. Hitting ~200mph in 8 seconds and losing control of the vehicle means you and anyone in the car with you is red paste.

[Anonymous No.15127718]

>>15127552
kek

[Anonymous No.15127719]

>2023
5 orbital launches, first successful reentry and chopstick catch by end of year.
>2024
15 orbital launches + first successful refilling test and first successful starlink deployment, first reused starship upper stage. Florida launch sites completed.
>2025
30 orbital launches + first commercial launch and HLS demo. First floating platform completed.
>2026
70 orbital launches + first Mars EDL tests (2 starships), Artemis III.
>2027
120 Orbital launches, Polaris Dawn around end of the year. Second floating platform completed.
>2028
230 orbital launches, and Artemis IV, DearMoon launches this year.
>2029
450 orbital launches, Artemis V. LEO starship tourism begins, although still a minor program at this point. First major Mars cargo fleet (4 cargo starships).
>2030
600 orbital launches, Artemis VI? Last Falcon 9 launch and end of Falcon/Dragon programs.
>2031
800+ orbital launches, second Mars cargo launch (4 more cargo starships) Artemis VII?
>2032
800+ orbital launches, Artemis VIII?
Orbital space tourism with Starship regular by this point, tickets in the high five figure range,
>2033
1000+ orbital launches, first Mars landing (4 more cargo starships and 2 Crew starships), Artemis IX?
>2034
1000+ orbital launches, Artemis X? Permanently crewed lunar base established and end of annual Artemis Launches, new NASA program succeeds Artemis to continue research and economic development of the Lunar South pole as well as assuring regular transport of astronauts to the base in the region.
>2035
1600+ launches, second Mars landing, 8 crew starships (96 people) and 16 cargo starships. Mars population reaches 100 as a few astronauts from the first mission of 24 people stay. First lunar tourism landing mission to the lunar south pole base.

[Anonymous No.15127722]

>>15127711
>1/4mi
Yeah, the only situation when Tesla is at advantage.

[Anonymous No.15127730]

>>15127719
There may be a bright future yet

[Anonymous No.15127731]

>>15127711
So, tonight's landing burns briefly involved three engines firing

[Anonymous No.15127734]

>>15127719
>2036
See my post in the previous thread

[Anonymous No.15127738]

>>15127722
Obviously. But that doesn't change the larger point. In the most common of drag race situations, the PLAID has already made a joke of multi-million dollar vehicles. The longer distance tests don't really matter, because the use case where they matter, are like 0.00000000000000000000000000001% of the entire existence of the vehicle. Its so materially insignificant, that the prestige of the win isn't nearly as meaty as you'd believe.

There's essentially no point to the roadster unless any competition in EV space or ICE space can deliver a 9.8s 1/4th run. The whole point of making a halo product is to leap frog everyone else. but if thus far, nobody has managed to leap frog a vehicle you put out 3 years ago, why would you?

[Anonymous No.15127739]

>>15127722
And any real life driving on roads, highways. Which is 99.9% of driving scenarios.

[Anonymous No.15127740]

>>15127738
to mog the competition even more

[Anonymous No.15127744]

>>15127731
That's cool as fuck. That said, I recall Elon saying this for Starship, but that it probably applies to Falcon 9 because its expected that the avionics package would be shared or pulled from F9 and evolved on SH. That during landing burns, they fire all 3 engines generally, if necessary, to slow the vehicle down, and then cut back to the primary central engine [and/or the most stable one based on telemetry that the computer gets] and then the booster lands on that. Which I believe is what we're seeing here.

[Anonymous No.15127746]

>>15127734
2037 is coming anon.
>>15127730
Hopefully this Falcon Heavy launch and the upcoming starship launch will bring back some optimism to sfg.

[Anonymous No.15127748]

It comes to my attention there are some really sick people on sfg

[Anonymous No.15127756]

>>15127719
This timeline is too optimistic and exponentially inconsistent. 5 for 2023 is reasonable. 10 for 2024 is more reasonable. Then 20, then 40, then 80, then 160, then 320, then 640 and so on. So:

>2023
5 launches
>2024
10 launches
>2025
20 launches
>2026
40 launches
>2027
80 launches
>2028
160 launches
>2029
320 launches
>2030
640 launches
>2031
1280 launches

The limiting factor for Moon/Mars will be fuel. The curve to get to 1k launches/yr is going to be way longer than your math dictates. Plus, they need funds to make this happen, which is going to come from Starlink, which is going to take some time to flesh out too.

[Anonymous No.15127758]

>>15127748
earthers

[Anonymous No.15127763]

Do these Starship launch predictions count refuel flights?

[Anonymous No.15127766]

>>15127756
I actually started off with something similar to what you suggested, but I don't think there will be enough demand (even counting internal demand from starlink + mars + artemis missions and refilling) for 1000 launches until 2033 actually. I don't think your launch is less optimistic compared to mine, since it actually has SpaceX reaching 1000+ launches even earlier. I'd say both of these timelines are pretty similar in terms of optimism, not overly optimistic but not pessimistic either.

[Anonymous No.15127768]

Miss USA's costume from Miss Universe this year, discus

[Anonymous No.15127770]

>>15127526
No way, maybe even the astronauts were filming from the cupola

[Anonymous No.15127773]

>>15127763
Yes. For example in 2033 the Mars landing takes up around 42 launches due to all the refilling launches needed.

[Anonymous No.15127777]

anyone got some isolated rocket engine fire/crackling sound?

[Anonymous No.15127779]

>>15127766
if the cost gets low there might be surprisingly large demand assuming satellites become cheaper as well (which they should through mass manufacturing and cheaper off the shelf buses)
you would think there is some kind of elasticity?
mass missions to deep space, perhaps LEO tourism with private space stations

[Anonymous No.15127780]

>>15127768
Unless there are ayys competing it's no real miss universe.

[Anonymous No.15127781]

>>15127756

[Anonymous No.15127782]

>>15127768
looks stupid, I like the general idea though

[Anonymous No.15127784]

• FH that sends up a TLI Service Module / Dragon XL-type orbital habitat
• Dragon on an F9 to rendezvous with the aforementioned in LEO

[Anonymous No.15127785]

>>15127551
>>15127547
>average space stay is 800 days

we would know, because it would return after like maybe 30 days max

[Anonymous No.15127791]

>>15127785
This is what society trained neets for

[Anonymous No.15127792]

>>15127779
I agree, but I think it'll take a while for companies/the market to adopt, and the cost will take some time to lower because its not like SpaceX will have much competition, at least not until Relativity and Blue Origin get their RLVs up.

[Anonymous No.15127794]

[Anonymous No.15127798]

>>15127792
Starshield is the first step for mass manufactured buses for customers, SpaceX could start offering these in general at some point

[Anonymous No.15127811]

[Anonymous No.15127820]

Honestly I’m kinda sad that the era of wacky Falcon-Dragon derived vehicles and multi-launches missions was so short, barely appeared around 2012 or so when it was started to be taken seriously and disappeared around 2017-2018 when BFR Appeared and retropropulsive dragon was dropped

[Anonymous No.15127823]

>>15127820
I will miss the Falcon era no matter how good Starship ends up being.

[Anonymous No.15127827]

Did /sfg/ cover the NIAC announcement already? Anyway -
https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/niac/2023/

[Anonymous No.15127828]

>>15127820
There's still the potential Hubble servicing mission, and the Gateway Dragon

[Anonymous No.15127835]

>>15127828
>Gateway Dragon
Why can't anyone think about the jobs

[Anonymous No.15127837]

>Falcon Heavy only has one more NSSL-2 launch in April
Wtf

[Anonymous No.15127846]

>>15127820
I do wonder what the Merlin 2, Falcon X, Red Dragon, etc. Timeline would’ve looked like

[Anonymous No.15127847]

Can someone post that tweet or statement that was talking about the potential for hundreds of launches from Cape Canaveral/KSC in the future? It mentioned that there were a couple hundred requests for launches in 2022 or somthing

[Anonymous No.15127849]

>>15127794
I have become thrust, the destroyer of concrete.

[Anonymous No.15127853]

>Jupiter-3 (EchoStar-24)
>Destined for GTO
>Launch in May, 2023
>Launch Vehicle: Falcon Heavy
>Launch mass if 9.2 tons
Why the FUCK is a geostationary satellite 9.2 tons?

[Anonymous No.15127859]

>>15127837
There are only 30-34 NSSL payloads over a five year period, which isn't that many on a yearly basis. USSF-87 and 112 are waiting on Vulcan to get certified and USSF-36, 52, and NROL-69 are all launching on Falcon 9. Overall that actually makes for a pretty full manifest for 2023.

[Anonymous No.15127867]

>>15127847
Nvm found it

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2023/01/15/space-force-expecting-hundreds-of-florida-launches-in-coming-years/69799019007/

>If Space Force projections pan out, last year's record 57 Florida launches are just the start of what could become a science fiction-like cadence of "multiple hundreds" of missions flying from Space Coast pads.

>Speaking to a packed National Space Club Florida Committee luncheon in Cape Canaveral this week, Space Force Maj. Gen. Stephen Purdy said Florida can expect a roughly 60% surge in the number of missions taking flight from the Eastern Range

> Two years ago, I started making the circuits saying we plan on 100, 200, 300 launches in several years. And I got lots and lots of eyebrows," Purdy said. "We still plan on that multiple-hundred launches in a few years. So now we're trying to re-architect all our processes, our business processes, our technology processes, and all the data flows in order to support that."

What will they be launching that will require hundreds of launches from KSC/CCSFS? It can’t all be starlink and glowie satellites

[Anonymous No.15127876]

has the starship done anything yet I havent looked

[Anonymous No.15127879]

>>15127853
its a new space weapon

[Anonymous No.15127882]

>>15127876
it just flew over my house

[Anonymous No.15127883]

>>15127780
okay NDT

[Anonymous No.15127888]

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1614793196483284994
Uncut drone shot of the dual landing
>Elon replying "And that’s how we will land on Mars"
no it's not

[Anonymous No.15127890]

>>15127867
Cont.

You think Jeff is going to want to pay those fees?

https://twitter.com/emrekelly/status/1612873919203000320?s=61&t=bsqMsMNPCNAQVgWB5i3FSg

[Anonymous No.15127894]

>>15127888
How will it be then?

[Anonymous No.15127898]

>>15127846
Red dragon wouldn’t have been launched to date.
Falcon X is probably the launcher most adapted for current satellite constellations desu. But can’t see it and FH coexisting.

[Anonymous No.15127899]

>>15127602
they're actually modernized, look at their fucking cockpit, it looks like cool fucking shit
they livestream their shit
they do so many launches now that people are losing track of it.


until someone dies at their hands they're on smooth sailing.

[Anonymous No.15127902]

>>15127894

[Anonymous No.15127903]

what if they took falcon heavy but used 6 boosters around the core booster

[Anonymous No.15127905]

>>15127890
How much rent do you think Blue Origin has paid so far for LC-36? They've been sitting on that piece of real estate since 2015.

[Anonymous No.15127907]

>>15127890
Starship oil rig update incoming

[Anonymous No.15127923]

>>15127905
They’ve reportedly invested $1 billion into the pad

[Anonymous No.15127942]

>>15127902
I don't think they will bellyflop that aggressively on Mars, that manuver will happen much higher up
and its still going to be a propulsive landing so its going to be similar to the clip when its close to landing

[Anonymous No.15127943]

>>15127820
I get what you’re saying, but all-in on F9 and dragon would have probably lead to reusable raptor upper stage or something. So basically just a starship but smaller. Starship is essentially just SpaceX’s long-term goals of Falcon XXX but taken to the level of the Saturn V

[Anonymous No.15127944]

>Girl invites me to a party tonight
>Don’t go because I need to stay ahead of my classes so I can go to medschool and then fly in space one day
Whatever it takes, right bros? Pic unrelated, I just like Vega’s design

[Anonymous No.15127946]

>>15127943
It honestly seems like we ended up in the best possible SpaceX timeline. Dragon and Falcon upgrades are great but don’t make Mars any more real.

Another possibility is SpaceX keeps upgrading Dragon to the point we see basic “flags and footprints” missions with Dragon in the late 20’s/early 30’s, followed by Starship colonization (or whatever it’s called in this timeline)

[Anonymous No.15127949]

>>15127923
I mean on top of that. They don't actually own the land; it's all leased from Cape Canaveral Space Force Base just like how SpaceX leases LC-39A and SLC-40. SpaceX only took 2-3 years between taking over a site and the first launch from it. Blue Origin has been paying rent on LC-36 for eight years and New Glenn is still nowhere to be seen.

Apparently back in 2015 Blue also acquired LC-11 so they could use it for testing the reusable BE-4 variant, because why bother testing those at the west Texas site where they test ULA's engines when you can buy a completely different location?

[Anonymous No.15127950]

>>15127944
you can go to parties occasionally, no need to go full on 100% drinking and no school or only school
maybe just don't get extremely wasted every time? leave earlier etc

[Anonymous No.15127952]

>>15127890
The shipping lines have to move then I guess?
or the exclusion areas need to be adjusted

[Anonymous No.15127957]

>>15127950
No you’re right it’s just this is my second time taking Organic Chemistry and I really need to ace it. I had to drop it last time, which doesn’t effect my GPA, but doesn’t necessarily look great.

I have a 3.99 GPA and just 3 semesters left in Uni. Im Uber motivated to kick ass grades wise (earlier semesters I complained a lot).

[Anonymous No.15127962]

>>15127949
it’s gonna be tough getting engines for New Glenn it Vulcan takes up most of the demand.
>Reusable BE-4
Fuckkkkkk didn’t BE-4 already have issues with melting turbopumps on a single mission?

[Anonymous No.15127964]

>>15127946
>Dragon and Falcon upgrades are great but don’t make Mars any more real
I'm not so sure about that. Falcon 9 had the capacity to launch 1000 tons to LEO last year, and they're going to try for an even wilder launch cadence this year. If SpaceX expanded operations to have another pad at the cape or a couple more pads somewhere like Camden, then the mass a large Falcon 9 fleet could put into orbit would be absurd. It wouldn't be anywhere near as absurd as a Starship fleet and it woudn't be as cost effective but if you can't design a credible Mars program when you've got the capability for 2000 tons/LEO per year you're doing something wrong.

[Anonymous No.15127965]

>Paid $20 to renew my L2 subscription
>I’m still banned from NSF
>Mfw I wasted $20

[Anonymous No.15127971]

What does it take to keep the LOX cold during a long Starship trip?

[Anonymous No.15127973]

>>15127971
Not much.

[Anonymous No.15127979]

>>15127965
File a chargeback.

[Anonymous No.15127985]

>>15127971
Probably cryocoolers and insulation inside the tank, but it’s infinitely easier than hydrogen desu

[Anonymous No.15127988]

>>15127962
This is the worse part about Blue being so opaque. So many thing are riding on them getting a high production rate for their engines and we've got no clue what their actual capabilities are shaping up to be.

>melting turbopumps
They had some issues with the engine eating itself earlier in the design process. Going ORSC instead of FFSC is a bit simpler, but it put a lot more weight on the single turbopump that drives everything. They've probably fixed the issue if they're delivering engines for ULA, but it might mean that BE-4s will need more work between missions than Merlins or Raptors.

[Anonymous No.15127994]

>>15127985
How much energy would it take? And how would this limit outer solar system missions?

[Anonymous No.15127995]

>>15127988
Kuiper buying like 30 launches on Vulcan may have screwed over New Glenn desu. That’s 60 BE-4s gone

[Anonymous No.15127997]

One down, three to go.

[Anonymous No.15127998]

>>15127994
I’m not qualified enough to say exactly how much energy, but Lockheed was able to demonstrate zero boiloff with 635 liters of methane @ 150-300 watts.

[Anonymous No.15127999]

>>15127902
You need to land after wards. That's the point.

[Anonymous No.15128000]

>>15127995
On top of the 40 engines ULA needs for their national security launches.

[Anonymous No.15128009]

>>15127997
that's not how checklists work

[Anonymous No.15128010]

Vulcan flight one is gonna fucking explode given the BE-3 shredding its turbopump.

[Anonymous No.15128013]

>>15128010
Could you imagine the seethe by ULA if Vulcan fails? Their only claim is they have “100% mission success” which is convenient because Atlas V and Delta IV have had a partial failure each in the past, just before ULA was started

[Anonymous No.15128017]

Can anyone identify this rocket? The BBC is using it for a recent space article but I have never seen it before...

[Anonymous No.15128025]

>>15128017
maybe it's some future ariane variant

[Anonymous No.15128037]

>>15127997
>with the approval of-
Abolish the FAA, tear it down brick by brick and salt the Earth where it once stood. A pox on the federal aviation administration, may their crops fail and their children be born cursed unto the seventh son.

[Anonymous No.15128043]

>>15128037
I had to interact with their student pilot application interface today and somehow I hate them even more now. Didn't think it was possible but here we are.

[Anonymous No.15128050]

>>15127965
L2 is gay (the bad kind)
Mack crawford is gay (the extra gay kind) (but he’s cool) (but he posts some dumb shit and horny replies way too much on twitter)

[Anonymous No.15128053]

>>15128017
Do you have a pic that isn’t 18 kb

[Anonymous No.15128054]

>>15128017
I don't think that's a real rocket. Modern rockets never include serious fins like the ones that has on its boosters. The only recent exception I can think of that does was the Angara 1.2pp with its little finlets, and those only got because of that design's weird aerodynamics. Fins are the sort of thing that non-rocket scientists put on fake rockets because they look like they're "supposed to be there."

[Anonymous No.15128061]

>>15128053
It's the best I could get from inspect element straight from the webpage.
>>15128054
That's what I was thinking but they use pictures of SLS/Soyuz and New Shepard in the article so why a fake rocket also?

[Anonymous No.15128067]

Which oldspace company do you anons think will be the first to reuse a rocket booster?

[Anonymous No.15128069]

>>15128067
CNSA

[Anonymous No.15128071]

>>15128067
Weren’t the Shuttle SRBs re-used?

[Anonymous No.15128073]

>>15128061
Do they use the correct pictures when talking about specific rockets? Whatever intern was putting the article together probably just grabbed a picture out of a clip art file. Just because they're working in journalism doesn't mean they actually know anything about the topics they're discussing.

>>15128067
If we're talking American oldspace, then 100% Northrop. Otherwise >>15128069.

[Anonymous No.15128074]

>>15128067
none

[Anonymous No.15128075]

https://twitter.com/pc2000s/status/1598401969554497536
Not an important tweet, also not a krystalpost. Open if you want nostalgia. Also wish this was real

[Anonymous No.15128081]

Could gravitons be used for space travel?

[Anonymous No.15128088]

>>15128081
We can’t even use muons for space travel and those are confirmed beyond a doubt
I think you know the answer

[Anonymous No.15128090]

>>15128088
Well yeah but I have no idea how you’d use muons for propulsion whereas I can conceive of some cheaty troll physics bullshit involving gravitons if we could somehow produce them

[Anonymous No.15128093]

>>15128075
actually it is unreal

[Anonymous No.15128100]

>>15128090
Well you’d have just as easy of a time using tachions. Also muons can catalyze fusion reactions at room temperature so you could probably pull off a constant 1g engine or something idk
>>15128093
kek

[Anonymous No.15128122]

does anyone else really like 90s era designs? it was probably the worst era for NASA, but it had a lot of hope

[Anonymous No.15128125]

>>15128122
the 80's were worse
the 90's had some cool missions happening

[Anonymous No.15128129]

>>15128125
what happened in the 80s? budget raped by reagan?

[Anonymous No.15128138]

>>15128129
As far as I can remember, there were no Deep Space missions besides the Voyagers during that time, and they didn't even contribute to the Halley Armada.
Also, the 90's had Hubble and the Mars Pathfinder mission.
This is why I consider that decade to be the (slow) start of the space rebirth we are going through now.

[Anonymous No.15128153]

>>15128129
A lot of budget in the 70s got poured into developing the Shuttle. The few projects that were considered were dominated by huge "flagship missions" that starved out smaller proposals, which weren't all that small themselves. A lack of launches in the 70s meant that there few missions in transit to arrive in the 80s.

[Anonymous No.15128158]

The SpaceX memester has struck again, the memeosphere is afire with chatter about this latest meme drop. We're going to edit the fuck out of it and its going to be so goddamned neat-o, holy crap, lets do this right here and now.
I'm gonna erase where it says Soros and write in maybe SLS or Blue Origin, get ready to laugh my fellow meme fans, this /sfg/ is already past the bump limit and we're going to make it legendary before 404

[Anonymous No.15128162]

I'm not too greedy with my memes to share a top grade template with the my fellow spacefaring community memers, enjoy!

[Anonymous No.15128169]

>>15128158
>>15128162
>elon bad!
>no he didn't do anything at spacex!
>no he didn't do anything at tesla
>he is just the front man!
Why is the cope so strong. So strong they are completely blind

[Anonymous No.15128170]

USSF-67 made it to Geostationary Orbit
https://twitter.com/spaceflightnow/status/1614852201150652418

[Anonymous No.15128172]

>>15128158
>>15128162
Can you like, go away?

[Anonymous No.15128176]

This meme will eventually be immortalized on Encyclopedia Dramatica, so watch out with the fizzy beverages while reading this one, riotous guffaws are a mortal lock

[Anonymous No.15128178]

>>15127602
Looks like a sunset in Macross Plus.

[Anonymous No.15128186]

[Anonymous No.15128189]

Boca Chica villagers ordered to evacuate on Wednesday. The last time this happened was during SN15’s hop
>https://twitter.com/MaxQAerospace/status/1614723961165586432?s=20&t=HHiEXSVrfWjvQoMXjo0MfQ

[Anonymous No.15128196]

>>15128189
WET DRESS REHEARSAL BAY BAY

[Anonymous No.15128198]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI7BMZ3SI3Y

Hungarian documentary on space coast/spacex

[Anonymous No.15128200]

>>15128189
WE GAAN

[Anonymous No.15128210]

>>15128189
IT'S HAPPENING

[Anonymous No.15128211]

>>15128189
fucking finally elon mustard

[Anonymous No.15128223]

>>15128189
WDR

[Anonymous No.15128224]

>>15128200
>>15128210
>>15128211
It’s probably “just” the WDR but after that all that’s left is the 33 engine static fire then she’s good to go

[Anonymous No.15128225]

>>15128189
Who the fuck still lives in that shithole, was this notice sent to the beetles?

[Anonymous No.15128227]

>>15128225
Unironically just SpaceX fans now

[Anonymous No.15128229]

>>15128225
boomers hoping for payday

[Anonymous No.15128231]

Interestingly, the 33 engine static fire should only be 3 seconds or so (just like launch). That’s fewer “Raptor seconds” than what was demonstrated in the 14 engine static fire and the 11 engine long duration one. Maybe it won’t be so bad? I’m scared bros.

[Anonymous No.15128235]

>>15128231
Static fire is still a ways down the road, but I imagine it will go as smoothly as it needs to. RIP to all the tiles though

[Anonymous No.15128238]

>>15128235
I do wonder if not static firing the full stack fully fueled will be a bad idea. Maybe there’s some vibration shit or something that would nuke the pad.

[Anonymous No.15128240]

>>15128225
Anyone have that video of the cosmonaut complaining and saying it’s his last flight? Kek it pairs well with this pic

[Anonymous No.15128247]

Reminder that there will be less tile shedding at liftoff than an stage sep or landing.
If you don't understand this you should stop posting

[Anonymous No.15128249]

>>15128225
Superman is the US government and the Soyuz is Pockockmock

[Anonymous No.15128252]

>>15128247
The tile thing is a meme it’s gonna be sorted out eventually SpaceX are smart. Be afraid of a failure on the pad taking out Starbase

[Anonymous No.15128253]

>>15128252
Main thing that matters is successful lift off imo. Orbit/tiles are secondaries that can be buffed out easily

[Anonymous No.15128254]

>>15128253
It seems like SpaceX really wants this one to at least make it to orbit. No reason it won’t unless some weird issue pops up

[Anonymous No.15128258]

>>15128254
order of importance

lift off > > > orbit > > > > > camera footage in orbit > ocean "landing" > tiles

[Anonymous No.15128261]

>>15128258
I don’t know why doomers won’t shut up about the tiles. SpaceX are smart they’ll get it down eventually

[Anonymous No.15128263]

>>15128261
Its cause tiles are the only visible change that can be seen after static fire. Doomers lack the scale of importance to the project.

[Anonymous No.15128266]

>>15128258
clearing the pad and making it down range enough not to nuke everything >>>>>>>>>>>>>> orbit > tiles > ocean simulation landing
Good footage is a given no matter what happens

[Anonymous No.15128269]

>>15128266
put in this order only because you need tiles to actually make it back and attempt landing in the first place

[Anonymous No.15128273]

>>15128247
The vibrations from the larger number of engines will cancel each other out, and the fully fuelled tank will act as damping. Delightfully counterintuitive.

[Anonymous No.15128276]

>>15128269
Tiles prob arent needed for earth orbital return imo. Its more important for Mars and return from Moon, but thats years off

[Anonymous No.15128283]

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1672935437536832.webm

[Anonymous No.15128284]

>>15128266
>Good footage is a given no matter what happens
I hope it explodes on the pad :)

[Anonymous No.15128303]

Just glue the tiles in space nigga

[Anonymous No.15128311]

>>15128303
tile depots

[Anonymous No.15128318]

>>15128225
There’s a few actual schizos and boomers mad that their real estate investment was always retarded

[Anonymous No.15128319]

>>15128189
Evacuate the peasants. It's time.

[Anonymous No.15128323]

>>15127888
Elon is mr moneybags. He doesnt understand the first thing about rockets

[Anonymous No.15128324]

>>15128050
I actually wanna fuck his pfp

[Anonymous No.15128332]

https://twitter.com/astroferg/status/1614861722975883270

More FH porn vids from this launch

[Anonymous No.15128338]

>>15128332
Visible shockwaves

[Anonymous No.15128345]

>>15127327
I'm about to graduate with a B.S in EE. There is literally no other company I would rather be in than SpaceX. If I was ever going to be worked to death....it would be in the persuit of pushing the envelope of space. Sadly I'm not in the top 1% of Engineers, and at this point don't see what other company could give me the experience necessary to get me there.

I kinda wish Elon could keep a B company to help maintain older vehicles like Falcon when they start to be phased out by starship. But I know that's a pipe dream.

[Anonymous No.15128377]

>>15128345
Do interesting and meaningful projects on your own time, that's more likely to land you a job with spacex than a degree or high grades

[Anonymous No.15128405]

>>15128186

[Anonymous No.15128409]

>>15128377
Are there any examples of meaningful projects that you are aware of that are good examples of engineering prowess?

[Anonymous No.15128416]

>>15128409
I built a modern linux system that could interface with 30-year old embroidery machines via hardware and software emulation. The previous Win3.1 machine died and I didnt want to call the vendor/tech or replace the expensive embroidery machines. Worked out despite the vendor's rerarded DRM solution

[Anonymous No.15128424]

Why is Zubrin's reward so comically low? it'd cost me about that much just to drive there

[Anonymous No.15128429]

>>15128409
Youtube is littered with them. Go look at styropyro or Shane Wighton or Ian Davis or anyone else that translates their technical knowledge into actual usable things.

[Anonymous No.15128431]

>>15128424
Maybe some people live near there and it would mean free $200

[Anonymous No.15128436]

>>15128431
No one in Carter, OK is following a jew on twitter. They probably dont even have internet

[Anonymous No.15128483]

https://youtu.be/Q2WkQw4okD4
fusion is solved and happening
exclusive interview with the fusion man

[Anonymous No.15128495]

>>15128283
https://twitter.com/NicAnsuini/status/1423989732183261191

[Anonymous No.15128501]

>>15128495
>I still get goosebumps

[Anonymous No.15128515]

>>15128495
>i never heard this song
?

[Anonymous No.15128517]

>>15128323
Seems like he understands something, based on how they're talking about the engines in this https://youtu.be/E7MQb9Y4FAE?t=120

If his one true autistic is getting to Mars, he's probably picked up something in the past 20 years

[Anonymous No.15128528]

>>15128517
I was pretending to be retarded. Also i dont remember where but I read someone call elon "mr moneybags" and deride his engineering title and it made be spit out my drink.

[Anonymous No.15128531]

>>15127942
This video has an old clip of them demoing how it should go, it comes in diagonally and then flips around to brake at the end. Looks totally different from the Earth landings

https://youtu.be/_I_IfFvGy9A?t=553

[Anonymous No.15128533]

>>15128515
they're rocket autists they don't listen to pop music

[Anonymous No.15128539]

>>15128533
I dont listen to it either but I never could escape it

[Anonymous No.15128590]

>>15128067
Arianegroup*
*as a demonstrator

[Anonymous No.15128626]

Anyone find it kinda weird China hasnt even tried landing any Long March rockets?

[Anonymous No.15128635]

>>15128626
Which one would they try it with? SpaceX almost stumbled into the ideal solution for propulsive landing by accident, and China doesn't have a rocket that makes a suitable candidate for experimentation.

[Anonymous No.15128644]

>>15128626
No other company has, nor country.

[Anonymous No.15128650]

>>15127545
NICE
>NICE
NICE
>NICE

[Anonymous No.15128664]

>>15128424
Claim the balloon for 4ASS

[Anonymous No.15128674]

>>15127957
Good to keep yourself motivated but don't miss these opportunities because once uni is over they don't come back

[Anonymous No.15128698]

>>15128644
Rocketlab stream lady said they refurbished an engine they fished from the sea?

[Anonymous No.15128719]

>scott manley laughing at rogozin "cosplaying in ukraine and getting his broomstick blown off"

[Anonymous No.15128736]

Harrison Schmitt pisses me off

[Anonymous No.15128740]

>>15128719
scott is transphobic now? yikes

[Anonymous No.15128752]

Did you know the dedicated Whorehouse of the French Guyana Space Center recently closed?

[Anonymous No.15128764]

>>15128528
Why is night-shift /sfg/ (mornings yuro time) the worst time?

[Anonymous No.15128765]

>>15128626
Why would they? They have more than enough cheap labor to keep up with the demand of expendable villages.

[Anonymous No.15128766]

>>15128736
what did he do?

[Anonymous No.15128768]

>>15128198
has ENG subs, just fyi

[Anonymous No.15128770]

>>15128764
That quote is from DarkShikari, and amusingly, they were attempting to describe the nature of 4chan.

[Anonymous No.15128773]

>>15128770
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1012082

[Anonymous No.15128777]

>>15128198
dunking on blue origin @9:20, kek

[Anonymous No.15128781]

>>15128590
Honestly it was the response I was expecting, not NG or china

[Anonymous No.15128783]

>>15128766
shills for BO

[Anonymous No.15128785]

>>15128436
it's like 2h from Oklahoma City
I'd do it if I lived there

[Anonymous No.15128789]

>>15128773
frighteningly accurate

[Anonymous No.15128791]

>>15128783
he probably wants a free carnival ride
Jeff likes to entertain other billionaires with old farts like him

[Anonymous No.15128889]

Well I think I'll take a break fro /sfg/ until something happens. See y'all in a few days.

[Anonymous No.15128891]

>>15128429
styropyro cringe Shane Wighton based. Shade was tech lead of some 3d printer company and it shows

[Anonymous No.15128895]

Welp I'm back after 3-year break from /sfg/. what's new my buddies?

[Anonymous No.15128899]

>>15128895
mars declared war against earthers

[Anonymous No.15128908]

>>15127997
when did they do the fullstack cryogenic test?

[Anonymous No.15128913]

>>15128899
how stupid are they?

[Anonymous No.15128914]

>>15127731
doing it like that saves fuel

[Anonymous No.15128918]

>>15128908
they didnt. they failed the WDR tho

[Anonymous No.15128936]

Wow this is the best exterior view of Tiangong I’ve ever seen
https://twitter.com/cnsawatcher/status/1614866600745701380

[Anonymous No.15128959]

>>15128189
praise the sun

[Anonymous No.15128961]

>>15128913
You can't expect rationality from something that looks like this

[Anonymous No.15128964]

>>15128895
>Elon is launching Starship in 2 weeks for the past 2 years, gets bored and blows 44 billion on Twitter
>Rogozin left Roscosm, went to Ukraine LARPing as spec ops commando and got his cock blow off by a French artillery
>Peter Beck ate his hat
>Shelby retired and gave everyone the D-word pass
>Jeff delivered the engines
>everyone who knows how nuts and bolts work is building their own rocket

[Anonymous No.15128969]

>>15128895
we've conclusively proved nuclear is better than solar in every way

[Anonymous No.15128970]

>>15128424
Sweet free balloon+gondola

[Anonymous No.15128978]

>>15128964
>Jeff delivered the engines
Whoa what?

[Anonymous No.15129010]

>>15128978
yeah, in October
a mere 4 year delay, no big deal

[Anonymous No.15129027]

Kodiak remnant

[Anonymous No.15129042]

>Vulcan was supposed to fly in 2019
>New Glenn was supposed to fly in 2020
>Ariane 6 was supposed to fly in 2020
Everyone gives Starship a hard time but it’s standard in the industry

[Anonymous No.15129043]

>>15129042
Starship was supposed to land on Mars in 2020. Let that sink in

[Anonymous No.15129045]

>>15127811
isn't this within the capabilities of modern artillery

[Anonymous No.15129049]

>>15129045
a small solid rocket motor rocket could do it

[Anonymous No.15129093]

there's something new on the Mun and I'm almost there
it's... very tall

[Anonymous No.15129097]

[Anonymous No.15129100]

I'm not an the new object, it's just a boring old rock arch

[Anonymous No.15129136]

>>15129045
The shorter ranges are within the capabilities of a .50 Browning

[Anonymous No.15129143]

>>15129100
There's a neat relic under it now though.

[Anonymous No.15129145]

>>15129143
yeah, shiny
I still have two unexplored anomalies on my map, so I'm driving to the other one now. The final one keeps moving, so it's obviously the technology unlock monolith

[Anonymous No.15129146]

>>15128969
rip /sng/

[Anonymous No.15129148]

i had a dream me and jack nicholson ate molybdenum foil and started tripping out. i told him all about twin peaks season 1

[Anonymous No.15129188]

>>15127944
Should have gone anon. Should have gone. Its not just sex, its also building social connections. You never know who actually goes to your school. Half of life is knowing the right people to pull ahead from the others. When a good looking enough girl invites you, you go. Attractive people know attractive people who know people who have money or power.

[Anonymous No.15129194]

>>15129148
i cant understand why people like twin peaks
I watched like half the first season and it was just extremely boring

[Anonymous No.15129195]

>>15129194
You should try watching it on molybdenum.

[Anonymous No.15129198]

me at parties

[Anonymous No.15129205]

>>15129198
the shuttle dying was a good thing

[Anonymous No.15129206]

>>15129194
it has its moments. it was very different than any shows at the time or before it. it was a big deal. watching it now kinda feels like watching a dream play out. most people have their own interpretation

[Anonymous No.15129208]

>>15129198
real

[Anonymous No.15129218]

>>15129148
that is not what they mean by "rolling moly"

[Anonymous No.15129220]

>>15129198
>they all think that the shuttle is still flying and that when it goes to space it's landing on the moon

[Anonymous No.15129225]

Can someone knowledgeable clean up and add to the 2023 in spaceflight wiki?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_in_spaceflight

So many errors and missing maiden launches/missions

[Anonymous No.15129228]

>>15129206
yes, an extremely slow boring dream

[Anonymous No.15129233]

>>15129220
>they think that the payload area is pressurised habitable volume

[Anonymous No.15129242]

>>15129194
LYNCHED

[Anonymous No.15129243]

>>15129228
https://youtu.be/knaVDrV5AZo
>boring
Filtered

[Anonymous No.15129249]

>>15129242
TODAY… IS JANUARY THE 20th
AND IF YOOOOOU CANT BELIEVE IT,
ITS A FRIDEE ONCE AGAIN

[Anonymous No.15129251]

>>15129243
pretty good summary, boring nonsense lmao

[Anonymous No.15129301]

Who said it?

[Anonymous No.15129306]

>>15129301
Elon

[Anonymous No.15129313]

>>15129301
Jesus Christ Elon just shut up

[Anonymous No.15129320]

>>15129198
I had a friend that thought the ISS was gonna be abandoned when the shuttle stopped flying cause he didn't know soyuz was a thing.

[Anonymous No.15129324]

I only go in a small fraction of an inch, maybe an eight of an inch

[Anonymous No.15129325]

>>15129301
Elon finding out about /sfg/ would be the single most disastrous event for this general lmao

[Anonymous No.15129327]

Analyzing thread shape...
SHAPE FOUND.
Thread shape is TORUS

[Anonymous No.15129328]

why do my shitposts keep turning into memes

[Anonymous No.15129334]

>>15129325
now somebody is going to start spamming this at him

[Anonymous No.15129336]

>>15129325
I'm on the phone with him now. He's going to tweet a screenshot of your post.

[Anonymous No.15129341]

ESA, JAXA, ROSCOSMOS, and China, are all planning F9 clones towards the end of the decade. SpaceX has 21 cores in inventory they can put up on the launch table for any mission any commercial or government contract that can arise at moment's notice. The divide is staggering.

[Anonymous No.15129344]

>>15129325
he already knows, someone leaked SpaceX stuff here

[Anonymous No.15129351]

>>15129344
nah that was L1+1

[Anonymous No.15129356]

>>15129325
We need john carmack, we could talk him into reviving Armadillo and making a dedicated 4ASS kickstage for Starship

[Anonymous No.15129358]

>>15129301
/SFG/ famous now

[Anonymous No.15129371]

>>15129341
ESA has plans that might develop into something that might develop into something else that could be evolved into a Falcon 9 clone. Maybe. It's not really clear what they want besides being relevant again.

JAXA doesn't have any reusable plans as far as I know. They just want a domestic rocket that cheap enough for governemnt missions, and the H3 seems to fit that quite nicely.

Roscosmos can barely think about upgrading the Soyuz-2 or finishing the Soyuz-5. There's nothing going on there.

China's got plans. Most of their plans are for a mini-Falcon 9 that's in the same lifting class as the Long March 4C, but they do have larger ambitions for evolving the Long March 5.

[Anonymous No.15129380]

>>15129341
SX is so far ahead of the curve that their inventory isn’t even a useful metric. If they lost every single booster at once in a freak accident, they would be up and running within the same month. By the time anyone else has a fully reusable booster rocket doing commercial launches, Starship will already be online
By comparison if BO lost a reusable booster it would probably be a complete scramble and shutdown of operations. ESA has other rockets and they aren’t focused on it chiefly. SMART is just a supplement for a rocket that’s basically vanilla expendable so they’d be fine so long as BE-4s are still rolling out. Idk how fast Bilbo plans on pumping out neutron cores but I doubt it will be as fast as Falcon

[Anonymous No.15129437]

>>15129301
SHUT IT DOWN

[Anonymous No.15129446]

Mr Moneybags IS Elon Musk

[Anonymous No.15129451]

>>15129380
I still can't believe that Blue Origin is only planning on building two New Glenns. The best way to reduce launch costs and improve efficiency is through building and launching many rockets. SpaceX have proven this. Hell, even companies like ULA have to at least keep manufacturing and refining their expendable rockets. If something goes wrong on New Glenn's first flight and a booster is lost (not an insignificant chance) then they'll be in big trouble

[Anonymous No.15129452]

>>15128891
Styropyro is an actual genius whose autism keeps him from reaching higher. He could probably be pulling stacks of cash and stock options working for some fusion startup but instead is perfectly content to go mushroom foraging, observe large moths, and cobble together deathtraps in his shack, which is its own kind of based.

[Anonymous No.15129459]

>>15129451
>two New Glenns
source: my butt man

[Anonymous No.15129478]

>>15129459
>source: my butt man
New Gland

[Anonymous No.15129489]

[Anonymous No.15129491]

mars and falcon heavy

[Anonymous No.15129495]

https://twitter.com/AnthonyFGomez/status/1615006145210454020

[Anonymous No.15129498]

[Anonymous No.15129504]

[Anonymous No.15129516]

>>15129451
I’ve literally only heard this from one anon on /sfg/ with no evidence so take this with a mountain of salt: but apparently the “two boosters” thing is only for Block 1. They plan on seeing how they run, what needs to be modified, and then expanding from there with more boosters. Granted this could be completely wrong so lol
Also the two boosters they DO plan on building only have a planned flight rate of 25 (and this number will without a doubt not be met, so probably more like 10 a piece at best before they develop way too many problems to be flight worthy anymore assuming neither of them explode. Remember: it took a few exploding F9 boosters and troubleshooting small problems to even get them to 10 reuses)

[Anonymous No.15129544]

[Anonymous No.15129549]

so Wednesday WDR?

[Anonymous No.15129551]

>>15129549
Prob, or even static fire.

[Anonymous No.15129568]

>>15129325
Imagine Elon Musk finding out about esefgee at the peak of the nuclear/solar autist wars

[Anonymous No.15129572]

>>15129568
that would have been the best time to do it. Now it’s just recycled posts and too many newfrens

[Anonymous No.15129575]

[Anonymous No.15129577]

[Anonymous No.15129588]

>>15129549
>>15129551
Even if Wednesday is a WDR (probably btw), who’s to say the static fire isn’t next week?

[Anonymous No.15129589]

>>15129577
I can literally see the artifacts from the shoddy color editing job

[Anonymous No.15129592]

>>15129589
guess who edited it

[Anonymous No.15129593]

>>15129577

[Anonymous No.15129596]

>>15129593
Starship could bring 3 sperm whales to orbit.

[Anonymous No.15129598]

>>15129592
I can’t remember his name but I think it’s that awful NSF freelancer

[Anonymous No.15129600]

>>15129577
Fuck off ansuini

[Anonymous No.15129602]

Neutron's first factory

[Anonymous No.15129604]

>>15129380
>>15129371
The longer time progresses, the more or more absurd it gets that basically SpaceX will essentially become a universal aerospace corporation for all US aligned nations. Leaving Russia/China/NK as their own bloc of aerospace entities, and Africa/South America being the last real unexplored frontier for future aerospace alignments.

Like, if HLS Starship really does succeed by 2025 with Artemis III without delays, its practically game over for anyone else besides nation states. It's impossible to compete with a private company that has 1000x upmass capability that costs 1,000x than your own and can be flown dozens or even hundreds of times per year.

We're, I dare say, reaching the same levels of divergence as the US after WW2 ended, where we all had a stable working infrastructure and the rest of the world was still rebuilding--that by the time they baseline back into the proper 21st century, the US, absent of any political schisms that lead to severe regressions, will pull ahead towards the 22nd century first. China, in this could go either way though--and the jury's still out on whether any one of their economic bubbles pops first and takes them down a peg or they somehow navigate that shistorm better and emerge as a serious geo-solar rival to the US going out to the 2050s and 2070s.

[Anonymous No.15129605]

>>15129602
50 factories to orbit

[Anonymous No.15129608]

beautiful

[Anonymous No.15129611]

It’s easy to forget the Apollo guys were just regular dudes too

[Anonymous No.15129613]

>>15129602
I hate this new tent trend

[Anonymous No.15129616]

>>15129602
Why didnt they name it quarktron?

[Anonymous No.15129618]

>>>/wsg/4919266
Reminder

[Anonymous No.15129619]

Gemini was so underrated.

[Anonymous No.15129622]

>>15129598
perfect

[Anonymous No.15129634]

>>15129596
>Starship mogs alien spaceships from the 23rd century in payload

[Anonymous No.15129647]

>>15129619
Jeff?

[Anonymous No.15129662]

>>15129371
JAXA revealed a Starship clone proposal a while back
https://www.kenkai.jaxa.jp/eng/research/rvx/rvx.html
uhhhhh I can't find the image I'm thinking of so have this

[Anonymous No.15129665]

>>15129598
fucking beautiful

[Anonymous No.15129674]

>>15129577
>anusini

[Anonymous No.15129683]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1615078289475002368
>Center core moving too fast return. Falcon Heavy is a 3 (or 2.5) stage rocket, but full & rapid reusability on Earth demand a 2 stage rocket.
>1st stage returns to launch site immediately via boostback & 2nd stage orbits until ground track passes back over launch site to return.
Spacex will never try to recover FH center core ever again

[Anonymous No.15129701]

>>15129683
Move to Starship will happen before FH center core recovery

[Anonymous No.15129710]

>>15129683
why is going too fast a problem? Heat or structural issues, if it's either of those I have a solution

[Anonymous No.15129714]

>>15129710
Prob not enough fuel for boostback burn/landing properly

[Anonymous No.15129715]

>>15129710
payload with reuse too shit?

[Anonymous No.15129717]

>>15128100
>Also muons can catalyze fusion reactions at room temperature so you could probably pull off a constant 1g engine or something idk
What the fuck thats insane, whats the TRL on this

[Anonymous No.15129723]

>>15129683
No sugarcoating this

[Anonymous No.15129728]

>>15129662
>Currently, we are conducting research towards the reuse of Japan's flagship launch vehicles in future using Reusable Vehicle eXperiment (RV-X) as part of front-loading research activities for Cooperative Action Leading to Launcher Innovation for Stage Toss-back Operation (CALLISTO), which is being jointly researched by JAXA, CNES and DLR.
>In the summer of 2018, we carried out ground firing tests at the Noshiro rocket testing center as one of the important milestones towards the flight tests, and in addition to establishing the basic procedure for operating the vehicles, we successfully obtained engine performance at various thrust levels.

I think the biggest problem standing in the way of other groups fielding their own reusable launch vehicle is the fact that everyone seems to be more interested in talking about reusability than actually testing hardware. China might be well behind SpaceX but at least they're actually doing hop tests and working on reusable engine designs.

>>15129710
The faster you go the more heat load you're putting on your TPS when you start hitting the air to decelerate again. It's why Vulcan needs a specialized heat shield for SMART and Falcon 9 can just use some unobtrusive shit built into the tail end of the booster.

[Anonymous No.15129733]

>>15129717
literally trivial if you can get muons
but they're basically impossible to get

[Anonymous No.15129738]

>>15129728
found it, it was in a NSF thread

[Anonymous No.15129744]

>>15129733
How do we get them whats the problem

[Anonymous No.15129745]

[Anonymous No.15129752]

[Anonymous No.15129758]

found the full presentation
translate it, weebs

>>15129744
they decompose into bullshit after a few microseconds or something

[Anonymous No.15129762]

>>15129752
Yeah sideboosters are bad.

[Anonymous No.15129765]

>>15129758
How do we stop or slow down the decomposure

[Anonymous No.15129767]

>>15129765
maybe if you pray really really hard, God himself will come down and hold some in stasis for us

[Anonymous No.15129770]

>>15129767
How do we do it ourselves

[Anonymous No.15129782]

Starship could actually put a (small) blue whale in orbit, wow

[Anonymous No.15129790]

>>15129782
Interesting study in orbital decay.

[Anonymous No.15129794]

>>15129770
nigger

[Anonymous No.15129803]

>>15129710
See >>15129715

>>15129683
Falcon 9 gets 5.5 tons to GTO reusable, Falcon Heavy does 8.3 tons to GTO with all three cores recovered, but 16 tons to GTO with 2 cores RTLS and center core expended.

Fully reusable FH is also $90 million per launch, while 2 core RTLS is $95 million

[Anonymous No.15129809]

good morning sirs

[Anonymous No.15129820]

what's the purpose of the entry burn? Why not just do a longer landing burn. It would save fuel

[Anonymous No.15129827]

>>15129820
atmosphere is hot when you're moving that fast, and letting your exhaust hit the air instead of you is magic or something idk
anyway aluminum is a shit material to defend against heat with

[Anonymous No.15129829]

>>15129820
It acts like a heatshield and corrects the angle of attack.

[Anonymous No.15129851]

>>15129758
Here

[Anonymous No.15129862]

>>15129829
yeah but it was going quite fast just before it started the entry burn and wasn't shielded at that point

[Anonymous No.15129881]

>>15129717
Keep in mind the 1g thing was a HUGE guess on my part. I don’t know if that’s true or not
>>15129744
A million muons pass through you every day. The problem is that it takes a giant particle accelerator running on an absurd amount of energy just to generate a meaningful amount with high enough density to do anything. They’re basically heavy electrons that don’t want to exist—a weird by-product of the standard model.
Unless you a) have a quick and cheap way of making muons or negative pions that turn into muons almost immediately (very unlikely) or b) come up with a way to store muons for a long time for later use in an engine (very very very unlikely they don’t like to exist except maaaaybe in extreme scenarios like degenerate matter) you’ll never be able to use them

Find a way to make muons/negative pions on a whim and you will have solved Earth’s energy crisis and also probably interstellar travel will be shortened to less than one lifetime (albeit with extreme time dilation)

[Anonymous No.15129886]

>>15129862
air thin

[Anonymous No.15129950]

Liftoff

>>15129948
>>15129948
>>15129948
>>15129948
>>15129948

[Anonymous No.15130023]

>>15129765
time dilation

[Anonymous No.15130174]

>>15129728
Public gets pissed if government blows up rockets, because government contracting is infamous for its $10,000 hammers and $20,000 toilet seats. So its better to build artisan rockets that cost billions of dollars that you throw away than to ever attempt re-usability outside of "studies" to validate the concept. The risk averse nature of the government makes sense when you frame it from the basis that the public is fucking retarded and can't be trusted with the future its trying to work towards.

The only reason SpaceX succeeded where others have not, is because Elon rules with an iron fist in SpaceX and Tesla for all things engineering, and 95% of all other entities in corporate sphere private owned or publicly traded, rule by boards and committees. If you notice, SpaceX has no board. It's Elon. He owns 40% in shares and has 78.1% of all the voting power. For all intents and purposes, he IS SpaceX. Which has allowed him to set insane goals and basically demand every ounce of genius from all his workers. And his style of management coupled with his innate genius fueled by his own autism, allowed him to secure Gwynne early enough that he found the absolute best in class leader for SpaceX for her life at the company so that he can go all out on engineering. So that, when the time comes, she can pass the baton onto someone else who is 100% just like her. Ensuring that SpaceX will always have a Gwynne Shotwell style COO.

There's a reason that Bezos threw money hand over fist at Gywnne to try and recruit her over. He failed and that's why Below Orbit has never once launched an orbital class booster, let alone landed one.

[Anonymous No.15130184]

>>15129738
>>15129745
>>15129752

China is copying like crazy, but at the same time, their batshit slides also show that they're exploring all kinds of options for their "reusable" booster cores. Which is better than anything else coming out of US/EU or Russia, which is trying to make as conservative a F9 core design as they can reproduce. All of them are aiming for orbit, and will more than likely get to the Karman line; instead of aiming for conquering the solar system, and getting to Moon and Mars instead.

Remember how growing up you're always told to aim for As so you get Bs. Everyone else is aiming for Bs, so they'll all get Cs. SpaceX is saying fuck that, I want an A++, so that if I mess up, I still get an A+.