/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15126765]

>blue curve is obseved death
>light blue is expected
ugghhh antivaxx sisters?

[Anonymous No.15126769]

>>15126765

[Anonymous No.15126799]

>>15126765
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KuUDZi-qOPU

[Anonymous No.15126809]

>>15126765
>expected
Did they include the increase in "sudden adult death" syndrome we started noticing 2 years ago?

[Anonymous No.15126814]

>>15126809
>we started noticing 2 years ago?
>we
the panel of chud experts?

[Anonymous No.15126820]

>>15126814
>it's afraid

[Anonymous No.15126824]

>>15126820
your twitter caps and articles are meaningless, leave my thread
OP pic is an observational study over 1 year on 6 million subjects
it's over

[Anonymous No.15126831]

>>15126824
>OP pic is an observational study over 1 year on 6 million subjects
it's over
You've been posting safe and effective 6 gorillion subject 500 positive peer reviewe updoots for years now and your narrative only keeps falling apart. It's so bad they had to hire you in a desperate attempt to do damage control. Won't help you. You will be held personally and physically accountable for what your handlers did.

[Anonymous No.15126837]

>>15126831
schizo

[Anonymous No.15126845]

>>15126837
Why did the UN need to hire an army of shills?

[Anonymous No.15126869]

>>15126814
>>15126824
>observational study over 1 year
And I asked if they accounted for the very well established increase in "unknown cause" deaths, which was identified before the 1 year study began, in their expectations.
It's a simple question. Why are you dodging it?

[Anonymous No.15126871]

>>15126869
yes

[Anonymous No.15126873]

>>15126765
i only speak english. if you have data to post in english, do so. otherwise, i suggest posting this to /int/

[Anonymous No.15126877]

>>15126873
it's number of deaths per 100000 person-weeks, stratified by age groups(!) for 2022

[Anonymous No.15126880]

>>15126871
Why did you lie?

[Anonymous No.15126882]

>>15126765
Is this for vaccinated vs unvaccinated, or is vaccination status not taken into account? Euromomo shows the under 44 age groups have a substantial elevation in mortality.

[Anonymous No.15126891]

>>15126877
don't care what you say it is. if i cannot verify it myself, it's a lie. not gonna rely on the potentially malicious mistranslations of esl faggots. either post data in english, or fuck off.

[Anonymous No.15126894]

>>15126871
Great. So you admit your study is meaningless for identifying clotshot deaths because the excess deaths that showed up immediately after the clotshot were already added to the lilght blue curve.
To use the cliche analogy: you are reducing crime by legalizing the theft of purses....ie you are hiding excess deaths by saying those excess deaths are expected.

[Anonymous No.15126900]

>>15126765
Heres some more data from the Swedish government
https://www.foi.se/download/18.3e84653f17d703503b913f/1639502982598/Heroes-and-scapegoats_FOI-S--6371--SE.pdf

[Anonymous No.15126901]

>>15126882
it's counting how many people died, regardless of cause, stratified by age group
denmark is 90%+ vaccinated with 1,2 or 3 doses, idk if that matters

[Anonymous No.15126904]

>>15126894
wrong

[Anonymous No.15126924]

>>15126769
it has a crude elegance, I like it
I'd crop about 120 pixels off the right margin though

[Anonymous No.15126938]

>>15126900
mine is better


>https://www.statistikdatabasen.scb.se/pxweb/en/ssd/START__BE__BE0101__BE0101I/Dodstal/table/tableViewLayout1/

[Anonymous No.15126939]

>>15126901
So why do you think deaths in the younger age groups were elevated in 2021 and 2022?

[Anonymous No.15126941]

>>15126939
they weren't in denmark apparently
>>15126765
>>15126904

[Anonymous No.15126942]

>>15126769
I like the re-use of this. It's about global weather change but it equally suits other graph-based scams.

[Anonymous No.15126951]

>>15126941
Where's 2022?

[Anonymous No.15126969]

>>15126951
>Where's 2022?
the OP pic represents mortality in denmark, stratified by age group for the entire 2022

[Anonymous No.15126974]

>>15126951
>excess deaths on the rise since 2017
wow you solved the vaxx

[Anonymous No.15126975]

>>15126969
Can you provide the link please? I see nothing declaring OP's image is 2022. Why would it have not been included in the image >>15126904?

[Anonymous No.15126978]

>>15126974
>excess deaths on the rise since 2017
That's not what the graph shows at all.

[Anonymous No.15126988]

>>15126975
>Can you provide the link please?
for the >>15126765 chart
>https://www.ssi.dk/sygdomme-beredskab-og-forskning/sygdomsovervaagning/d/overvaagning-af-doedelighed
click on
>Dødelighedsraten fordelt på aldersgrupper
for the OP chart

as for the total number chart>>15126904
>https://www.dst.dk/en/statistik/emner/borgere/befolkning/doedsfald
i'm assuming the 2022 report is forthcoming (we are still in january after all)

also, familiarize yourself with >>15126938

> I see nothing declaring OP's image is 2022.
it says right at the bottom 2-2022, 7-2022 etc etc until 52-2022
those are week numbers

[Anonymous No.15127001]

>>15126988
>The total mortality in Denmark has been significantly increased in recent weeks. This mortality is particularly seen in the age groups 75-84 years and 85+ years.
>However, the figures of recent weeks must always be interpreted with caution, despite correction for the delay in the registration of deaths.
You may be counting your chickens before they've hatched. There's often quite a lag time in death certificates.

[Anonymous No.15127006]

>>15126988
>>15127001
BTW, I'd also like to add that Denmark is one of the few countries that required aspirating during vaccination, and it cut myocarditis cases in half.

[Anonymous No.15127008]

>>15127006
Did it have any effect on the immuno-suppressive effect of mRNA vaccination?

[Anonymous No.15127021]

>>15126837
I can taste your fear.

The people you work for are going to sacrifice you the moment its convenient and you know it.

[Anonymous No.15127024]

>>15127008
I have no idea. Here is the initial recommendation.

https://www.coronaheadsup.com/coronavirus/denmarks-ssi-recommends-changes-to-syringe-injection-method-for-coronavirus-vaccines/

However, the apparently removed that recommendation at some point, which is disappointing.

https://www.ssi.dk/vaccinationer/injektionsteknik/intramuskulaer-injektion-beorn-og-voksne

I first heard about it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkopHLQjtVQ

[Anonymous No.15127026]

>>15127001
>quite a lag time
the yellow line corrects for the lag time, and it's not 'quite a lag time', it's as they say 'the recent weeks' that's the lag time so they correct for it

[Anonymous No.15127028]

>>15126988
meds. now.

[Anonymous No.15127030]

>>15127021
>USA has more deaths among young people
ok
not the case in denmark, and in sweden as per >>15126904 and >>15126765

[Anonymous No.15127035]

>>15127028
Your replies are so stale. Whoever is paying you should hire someone better.

'schizo' and 'meds' lost effectiveness over a year ago.

[Anonymous No.15127039]

>>15127030
>cherry picking tiny nations and not using official government stats

I cannot wait for this war to go hot. Because I will bring the skyfire.

[Anonymous No.15127040]

>>15127035
are these paid people in the room with you now?

[Anonymous No.15127045]

>>15127030
Let's wait for the official figures from 2022, shall we?

[Anonymous No.15127061]

>>15127039
your data applies to england, it's from england
mine applies to denmark, it's from denmark

if the results differ, then oh well

[Anonymous No.15127075]

>>15126904
>wrong
>posts 2021 data in its confusion
?? You just admitted it though.
You literally said "yes" when asked about excess deaths being normalized into expected deaths for 2022. Then you randomly posted 2021 actual deaths for some reason.
You obviously don't understand statistics or anything you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.15127089]

>>15127039

[Anonymous No.15127107]

>>15127075
they counted how many people died in 2022 and plotted it against an expected number
that's how they conclude there is an increase mortality among 85+ people and older

[Anonymous No.15127129]

>>15127040
Your question just makes you look like a complete idiot.

>>15127061
The results differ because yours are fake. They aren't real numbers, they're from an thinktank paid to create propaganda.

[Anonymous No.15127134]

>>15127075
These are the 'best and brightest' online influencers. They think they're hot shit because they're used to swindling idiots.

All they have on /sci/ is self-deception that they're accomplishing anything.

[Anonymous No.15127137]

>>15127107
>and plotted it against an expected number
And OP directly admitted the "expected number" already included excess deaths of unknown cause. This isn't complicated. OP just doesn't understand what he's saying.
>that's how they conclude there is an increase mortality among 85+ people and older
Which is true, however it's getting worse for 85+ as time goes on. There is also excess deaths among those younger than 85 but OP image is masking it according to his responses. He's trying (and failing) to use OP pic to pretend there is NOT excess deaths among all age groups.

[Anonymous No.15127150]

>>15127129
>they're from an thinktank paid to create propaganda.
those are danish governmental bodies lmao

[Anonymous No.15127154]

>>15127137
all deaths of any cause including unknown cause are in the dark blue line

[Anonymous No.15127157]

>>15127150
Yes, and the US CDC said the vaccines would stop transmission.

[Anonymous No.15127159]

>>15127150
no they aren't

[Anonymous No.15127165]

>when the data agrees with what i want it's true
>when the data disagrees with what i want it's fake
chad af

[Anonymous No.15127166]

I vaxxed myself, today
To see if it still kills

Try an focus on the clots
the only thing, that's real

The needle tears a hole
The old familiar pain
Try and cope and sneed away
But I fucked, everything

Why am I so dumb
My unvaxxed friend?
Everyone who's vaxxed
Goes away, in the end

And I have all the shots
My arteries are clogged
I will grab my chest
I know my death will hurt

I wear my mask of shame
Upon my onions stained face
Full of programmed thoughts
I cannot unsnare

Beneath the stains of of time
My life will disappear
You are still unvaxxed
I'm no longer here

Why am I so dumb?
My unvaxxed friend?
Everyone who's vaxxed
Goes away, in the end

And I have all the shots
My arteries are clogged
I will grab my chest
I know my death will hurt

If I could vax again
A million shots a day
I would still gets clots
I would still, be gay

[Anonymous No.15127170]

>>15127134
you are the smartest

[Anonymous No.15127171]

>>15127165
>when people who have been lying for the past 3 years make up new data contradicting all other data it's safe to assume they're still lying.

reasonable af

[Anonymous No.15127175]

>>15127170
Thank you, anon.

[Anonymous No.15127183]

>>15127171
>>15127129
>these chart
holy shit the vacc causes covid??
lockdowns were lifted, that's all that happened

[Anonymous No.15127188]

>>15127175
>neurological disorders increased 1000%
no, it was 100000%

[Anonymous No.15127213]

>>15127039
i can't find this shit anywhere

[Anonymous No.15127225]

>>15127183
>lockdowns were lifted, that's all that happened

So you're admitting the vaccines didn't do the one thing they were supposed to do?

[Anonymous No.15127240]

>>15127225
vaccines were the reason lockdowns could at all be lifted without massive problems

>So you're admitting
you are very good at debating

[Anonymous No.15127254]

>>15127240
>you are very good at debating

You are not.

You are wasting your time. You would be better off posting on reddit. All you are doing here is making the most intelligent and competent people in the world plot your severe suffering.

[Anonymous No.15127259]

>You are wasting your time. You would be better off posting on reddit. All you are doing here is making the most intelligent and competent people in the world plot your severe suffering.

[Anonymous No.15127352]

>>15127154
Let me educate you as if you are a child:
>The dark blue line is actual deaths.
>It is irrelevant by itself
>We need to compare it to something
>We compare it to the light blue line
>The further away from the light blue line the more excess deaths.
>Where does the light blue line come from?
>Estimates
>If the estimates are bumped higher than they should be, it hides excess deaths
>It is being bumped higher than it should be because it normalizes the prior year's unexpected unknown-cause deaths and makes them part of the expectation
>OP admitted this
OP's graph is invalid because he admitted this
Maybe OP is just a retard and replied "yes" without realizing what he was agreeing to.
It would have been fine if OP disagreed and said "no" but he didn't.
He admitted this is what is happening by saying "yes"
Either he is a retard who can't read, or he's a retard who can't comprehend what is being said, or he is a retard who posts invalid graphs.
Don't know which it is and I don't care.

[Anonymous No.15127371]

>>15127259
The shill seethes, hated and alone.

[Anonymous No.15127755]

>>15127089
kek

[Anonymous No.15127793]

>>15126765
The ESL fuckers who made that chart cannot even write English properly. Looks like tard talk.

[Anonymous No.15128833]

>>15127793
I think you're just annoyed at what the chart shows

[Anonymous No.15128851]

>>15128833
Government-funded toilet paper study show that corporate lizard beasts did nothing wrong. More news at 11. At this point, you're only doing more damage to yourself by posting this drivel.

[Anonymous No.15130006]

>>15128851
danish government is great at keeping records, better than 1.5 world countries like the uk and the us
>study
it's not a study, it's just counting how many people died, it's done annually

[Anonymous No.15130012]

>>15126765
So you're telling me the vaccine is useless and the excess deaths are just covid?

[Anonymous No.15130016]

>>15126809
They wouldnt increase an "unexpected" raise in "SADs" I'm the expected line just to make it seem nothing is out of the ordinary now would they? That would simply be a scientific fraud to cover their asses.

[Anonymous No.15130021]

>>15126901
>it's counting how many people died, regardless of cause, stratified by age group
Which group do people killed by physicians via ventilators go into?
https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/08/doctors-say-ventilators-overused-for-covid-19/

Which group do people killed by medical negligence for not being allowed into hospitals for not having covid go into?

[Anonymous No.15130025]

>>15127240
>without massive problems
Uh
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/new-zealand-covid-death-rate-at-record-levels/news-story/842a94c0fe4fa679848878a33a0a0a78

So get this, population is "fully" vaccinated, then lockdowns stop. Experts and govs hammered the point that vaccines were the reason for lower cases and deaths (and not just the natural cycle of the virus), but for some reason. That did not happen in New Zealand, and not experts are back tracking saying two doses isn't enough.

Weird.

[Anonymous No.15130034]

>>15126904
>more deaths in an year with a less deadly variant yet with a vaccine available than in a whole year with the deadliest variant and no vaccines
What was the point you were trying to make here?

[Anonymous No.15130040]

>>15127040
Who you think you fooling you dirty traitor? You are a disgrace to the human race
https://newspunch.com/wef-announce-recruitment-of-information-warriors-to-control-the-narrative-on-social-media/

[Anonymous No.15130054]

>>15130034
>>more deaths in an year with a less deadly variant yet with a vaccine available than in a whole year with the deadliest variant and no vaccines
there are 3 variables: vaccines, lockdowns and virus variant
you are ignoring one of them

>What was the point you were trying to make here?
two fold point
1. mortality didn't increase among young people in 2021 in denmark as per the chart
2. did increase among the elderly

[Anonymous No.15130087]

>>15130021
>Which group do people killed by medical negligence for not being allowed into hospitals for not having covid go into?

[Anonymous No.15130740]

>>15130016
>They wouldnt increase an "unexpected" raise in "SADs" in the expected line just to make it seem nothing is out of the ordinary now would they?
HAHA! ...... wait you're serious?

[Anonymous No.15130751]

>>15130016
>They wouldnt increase an "unexpected" raise in "SADs" I'm the expected line just to make it seem nothing is out of the ordinary now would they? That would simply be a scientific fraud to cover their asses.
The scientists? Lie? No. Scientists among their peers in law and politics are beyond disrepute. I'm feeling tremendously sleepy, let's pack this thread up shall we?

[Anonymous No.15132303]

bumping for interest

[Viruses don't exist No.15132401]

>>15132303
it's really that simple. virologists are garbage biomass.

[Anonymous No.15132427]

>>15130054
>you are ignoring one of them
2021 also had multiple lockdowns in case you forgot, and lockdowns have proven to be useless if not harmful (see new Zealand and Peru)

[Anonymous No.15132467]

>>15126814
Im a racist too btw

[Anonymous No.15132559]

>>15132427
lockdowns delayed everything until we got vaccines and milder variants
lockdowns were a tool for controlling spread by adjusting the severity of the lockdown up and down
all in all, lockdowns were a necessary evil

[Viruses don't exist No.15132843]

>>15132559
> spread
no such thing, never proven, you are shill

[Anonymous No.15132974]

>>15132559
>lockdowns were a tool for controlling spread by adjusting the severity of the lockdown up and down
This has never been proven before or after lockdowns, quite the opposite actually and Peru is an obvious example (SWEDEN is another one, and go read the health minister response there to the usual media meme about comparing it to other "nordic" countries as if they were comparable)

https://covid19-projections.com
https://reason.com/2020/06/04/lockdown-supporters-embraced-wildly-wrong-covid-19-projections-that-fit-their-preconceptions/
https://www.sott.net/article/450042-Yet-another-study-confirms-lockdowns-dont-reduce-covid-deaths
https://nypost.com/2021/03/22/the-data-shows-lockdowns-end-more-lives-than-they-save/
https://www.manhattan-institute.org/death-and-lockdowns-john-tierney

>all in all, lockdowns were a necessary evil
They were not, they only made things worse and niggers like you and your handlers should be executed for your crimes against humanity. Be assured people are saving up every name of every person involved, including hired foot soldiers like you

[Anonymous No.15133078]

>>15132974
>Be assured people are saving up every name of every person involved, including hired foot soldiers like you
Based Modern Nuremberger's

[Anonymous No.15133347]

>>15126769
Delightful

[Anonymous No.15135204]

>>15132401
what do you mean

[Anonymous No.15136190]

>>15126765
Give it two more weeks lol lmao even