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15121750 No.15121750 [Reply] [Original]

>negative numbers don't exist in real li-
WRONG.

>> No.15121773

they aren't negative numbers, they are conventions.
you can have them as positive quantities of different charges.
stop with this stupidity

>> No.15121781

>>15121773
>the positive quantity of one charge somehow suppresses the positive quantity of another charge

If you combine two UP quarks and a DOWN quark the total charge is 1.
If you combine two DOWN quarks and one UP quark the total charge is 0.
Intuitively that seems like one type of charge with positive and negative values.

>> No.15121782
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>>15121773
The fact that charges add and subtract like this is proof that there are negative numbers in reality.
There's just one type of charge here, and it can have a negative or positive value.

>> No.15121807

>>15121773
>you can have them as positive quantities of different charges.
no you can't.

>> No.15121823

>>15121782
If I take a step to the left, am I subtracting a step from the right?

>> No.15121835

>>15121823
Yes. You are taking a negative step to the right.
That's another good illustration of negative numbers in real life. Thanks.

>> No.15121844

>>15121823
That illustration adheres to all of the negative number properties as well.
If you take negative one negative right step, that is the same as to take one positive right step.
-1 * -1 = 1.

>> No.15121848

>>15121823
This is what a negative number is:
>>15121835
>>15121844
>>15121750

These three posts: That's the definition and they are therefore real. (Negative numbers).

>> No.15121849

>>15121835
>>15121844
So if a positive left step is equivalent to a negative right step, i.e., we can reach the exact same conclusion with solely positive numbers, it's a matter of convention to say that negative steps exist, is it not?

>> No.15121856

>>15121849
No, it's just the way you are defining your terms.

If I say that electrons have "left charge" and protons have "right" charge, the qualities of negative and positive still apply, but I'm just using a different name.

Left in your example means negative and right means positive.

Math and Science are like schizophrenic delusions except actually real and more work to understand.

You need to "try" if you want to understand math/science. That's the main difference between science and hallucinations.

>> No.15121861
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>>15121849
We even draw negative numbers to the left side of 0 and positive numbers on the right, because that's how similar negative is to left and positive to right. Your example is just the definition of negative numbers painted a different color.

>> No.15121865

>>15121856
>ahm..TAKE A NEGATIVE TURN AT THE JUNCTION

>> No.15121869

>>15121865
What you aren't understanding is that negative and positive are two members of the same house.

Just like "right" and "left."

Suppose you can quantify how far left you are, let's say you are on the left, very far on the left. Let's say you are 100 units to the left. You can't move right without subtracting from your left value. If you move ten steps to the right, your left value is now 90. That's proof that left and right are not SEPARATE things like you think they are. They are positive and negative poles of the same thing.

>> No.15121872

>>15121865
That analogy would be correct if people used the word "positive" as a synonym for right, but they don't. If they did, then it would be intuitive what a negative turn meant, everybody would know and it would make sense.

>> No.15121877

>>15121872
a negative turn would mean not taking a turn at all

>> No.15121880
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>>15121877
No, in terms of negative, positive, and neutral, a neutral turn would mean taking no turn at all.

>> No.15121883

>>15121807
electrons have penis charge
protons have vagina charge
penis and vagina charge attract one another but repel like charges due to homophobic repulsion
when an electron and a proton come together, babby charge is formed, which cannot attract anything until it grows old enough to decide its gender identity

>> No.15121885

>>15121883
a penis is actually a negative vagina!!!

>> No.15121892

>>15121883
>>15121885
And how is that different from using the words positive, negative, and neutral, instead of penis, vagina, and baby?

>> No.15121894

>>15121885
>>15121883
Vagina charge in your example is just another word for negative charge.
All you did was change the terminology and then act like it's any different.
Vagina charge is negative penis charge, it's the same thing. That's what positive and negative mean.

>> No.15121897

>>15121883
>when an electron and a proton come together, babby charge is formed, which cannot attract anything until it grows old enough to decide its gender identity
What happened to the neutrino? I bet some Jew took it...

>> No.15121898

>>15121892
that's the thing. it isn't positive and negative is an arbitrary convention. thanks for understanding.

>> No.15121903

>>15121898
>it isn't.
i forgot the full stop.

>> No.15121908

>>15121898
No, because clearly vagina charge and penis charge are both part of the same metric. They are clearly both part of the genitalia charge, they are the two sides of genitalia charge, and it's accurate to say this because each charge affects the other charge when you add them together.

>> No.15121986

Just a söyful way to say attraction and repulsion. Imagine there would be charge symbols A B C. Same letter having charges would repel, different would attract. Could you do the minus one thing? Probably not