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I have to preface this by saying I AM NOT ANTI VAX. That being said…in 2021 I got the Covid vaccine in June (Moderna). Got the booster in December (Pfizer). A month later, I had to be admitted to the hospital because I was experiencing terrible chest pain.

After getting my blood drawn, I was told by a nurse that my platelet count was at 2, and that they’d have to admit me to the hospital because my troponin levels were also abnormally high. I don’t remember too much after that but I apparently suffered a transient stroke shortly afterwards.
I had to take an insane steroid dosage (60mg) and get platelet transfusions for almost 3 months. I also was told I had somehow developed Lupus, and the Lupus triggered a thrombotic trombocytopenic purpura flare. That sounded ridiculous to me. Is it crazy for me to think the vaccine may have caused all of this? I feel like I can’t talk to people about this. Even the doctors can’t really explain what happened to me, but are adamant that it couldn’t possibly have been because of the Covid vaccine. They told me shit like this is about as rare as getting struck by lightning and that I shouldn’t worry about what really happened. They even want to document my case and publish it, despite it apparently having nothing to do with the Covid vaccine. I search up Covid and TTP and see a fuck ton of reports of very similar things happening after getting a Pfizer shot.

I guess I’m saying all of this to ask the intelligent people in healthcare here (if there are any) what they really think. I can’t help but wonder if I would’ve gone through all of this had I not gotten the vaccine. I wonder if it really would’ve been worse had I gotten Covid instead. The side effects from the steroids and other meds I had to take have literally ruined my life. Heart palpitations, blurry vision, shaky hands, and I’ve been told that I have proteinuria now which could be the start of kidney disease.

>> No.15117052

>>15117043
Apologies if it reads kind of weird. I had to cut a lot of stuff because it was too long.

>> No.15117062

There's no covid. Figure out the rest for yourself.

>> No.15117071

>>15117062
I’m not crazy man. Obviously Covid is real and for some people vaccination was a necessity, but I just want to know if there’s something in the vaccine that could’ve caused what happened to me or if it would’ve been even worse if I had been infected with Covid.

>> No.15117077 [DELETED] 

>>15117071
>I just want to know if there’s something in the vaccine that could’ve caused what happened to me or if it would’ve been even worse if I had been infected with Covid
The vaccine causes severe autoimmune reactions in a lot of people because of the nature of LNP delivered gene therapies. That's how most people in clinical trials of other similar therapies die. No, the virus would not have cause this to happen to you.

>> No.15117101

>>15117077
What about LNP causes this? My biochemist friend was throwing a fit when I suggested it could’ve been the vaccine. She told me it would’ve been worse if I caught Covid because the vaccine contains defective genetic material similar to the viral load of the actual virus.

>> No.15117118

>>15117101
Your friend sounds like a hysterical idiot. The vaccine contains lipid nanoparticles which can cross all bodily barriers, where the virus can't. These already cause severe autoimmune reactions in participants in other gene therapy studies.

The real important part is that it causes your own cells to express viral spike proteins, making the body identify them as viral cells. This is what sets off the autoimmune chain reaction in people like you. It's a retarded strategy for targeting any vaccine because it will always cause an autoimmune attack. That's by design.

Despite being a biochemist your friend seems to think that this is a subunit vaccine (and Novavax is, but the ones you took aren't) or a standard vaccine using an inactivated virus. Even a quick look at the handout for one of these injections will tell you why that's not true.

>> No.15117144

>>15117118
The way you’re describing it makes it sound a lot like the quantum tunneling phenomenon…that’s pretty interesting to be honest. Sucks that it seems to be what happened to me though.

>> No.15117152

>>15117043
they had no choice but to kill everybody. they were making the climate change.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KuUDZi-qOPU

>> No.15117156

>>15117071
>Obviously Covid is real
It really isn't. why else do you think they had covid 19 tests years in advance?

>> No.15117160

>>15117118
>>15117144
Also I forgot to mention this. I have to get rituxan infusions every 6 months now because of this. If this is what explained is what happened to me and my own cells are expressing the viral spike protein, is this something that will go away or will I need to get rituxan infusions for the rest of my life? My doctor said in some cases the infusions are a life long thing, and in others they aren’t.

>> No.15117162

>>15117160
>if this is what explained
Word salad. My bad.

>> No.15117163

>>15117152
I'm sorry anon, I don't want to long into google you'll have to change your links

>> No.15117173

>>15117071
No, covid is not real. Modern virology is a lie. No virus has ever been isolated or proved to be infectious. You can start here
http://wissenschafftplus.de/uploads/article/wissenschafftplus-the-virus-misconception-part-1.pdf
https://wissenschafftplus.de/uploads/article/wissenschafftplus-fehldeutung-virus-teil-2.pdf
https://wissenschafftplus.de/uploads/article/wissenschafftplus-the-virus-misconception-part-3.pdf

>> No.15117185

>>15117160
There's no way of knowing. Regarding the vax, you're the human trial. We have no knowledge of how long its effects last or how they differ from normal incidences of those diseases. Regarding autoimmune diseases generally, they're pretty tough to predict and you could get better or not depending on a lot of factors.

I would consider getting on some sort of anti-inflammatory and anti-oxidant supplements as long as they're not contraindicated with your medicine, or at least to start eating a healthy diet. Just basic stuff to take care of your body. If you're seeing a specialist they probably have a health management handout with some dietary advice and you could ask them about their opinion.

>> No.15117196
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read the intro chapters then skim this

>> No.15117200

>>15117173
>https://wissenschafftplus.de/uploads/article/wissenschafftplus-fehldeutung-virus-teil-2.pdf
*http://wissenschafftplus.de/uploads/article/wissenschafftplus-the-virus-misconception-part-2.pdf

>> No.15117210

>>15117185
I see. Well, thanks for the info. Also my rheumatologist prescribed hydroxycholorquine so I think I’ve got the anti inflammatory stuff covered.

>> No.15117217

>>15117210
Good luck! I'm sorry this happened to you.

>> No.15117219

>>15117043
>intelligent people in health care
Lol
Lmao

>> No.15117221

>>15117156
That is true. Christian Drosten had the test ready before the Chinese CDC annouced that they have (possibly) isolated fragments of the genome.

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>>15117043
>I have to preface this by saying I AM NOT ANTI VAX

I am.

As for your problem; has anything else changed? Diet, any other vaccines or medicines, stress etc? If not, the only thing that's changed is the fact you're a jaboid. Actions have consequences anon, and blindly believing mass media and corporations whose only concern is maximising profit is an action with immeasurable consequence.

>> No.15117258

>>15117043
>I have to preface this by saying I AM NOT ANTI VAX.
Get your booster you racist piece of shit

>> No.15117292

>>15117043
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8400504/
Are you a woman? This does appear to be a registered rare side effect of Covid vaccination and infection.
>with a total of 169 cases of CVST with thrombocytopenia reported among 34 million people vaccinated Vaxzevria in the European Economic Area
Also it appears to be associated with both Covid infection ocurring before/after vaccination. Most vaccines do have exceedingly rare side effects.

>> No.15117310

>>15117043
How old are you? Are you male or female? What's your BMI and blood pressure? Were you healthy before the stroke?

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>>15117043
All I can think of to say is
>domo oregato Mr. Thrombotico

Hope that helps.

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>>15117043
>ask the intelligent people in healthcare
Follow the money.
There is more money in them giving you more bad shit and bad advice, than in telling you truth.

>> No.15117580

>>15117531
if you think that the angels who make up our healthcare system are capable of harboring any kind of negative trait associated with deception, selfishness or corruption, you are a piece of shit racist crazy person

>> No.15117596

>>15117043
I didn't get vaxxed, got covid, now have natural immunity. For DECADES the world has had ESTABLISHED testing protocols for new drugs/treatments/vaccines. Clinical trials take 7-10 years MINIMUM. You CHOSE to ignore the past and may pay for it with your life. I am honestly sorry dude. You're a gullible fool motivated by fear... and it will be your undoing.

>> No.15117702

>>15117043
2/10.
Reminder that LARP credibility correlates with IQ.

>> No.15117708

>>15117043
>but are adamant that it couldn’t possibly have been because of the Covid vaccine
If they even hint of admitting this is the case they risk getting blacklisted from medicine, turns out medical staff is fine with lying to you and several others as long as they get to keep their jobs, they are not gonna throw their lives away for you

>> No.15117868 [DELETED] 

>>15117310
I’ve noticed that this happens primarily to woman, but I am a 31 year old male.

>> No.15117885

>>15117310
>>15117292
I know this is largely appears to be an issue for women, but I’m a 31 year old male. No prior history of auto immune disease and otherwise very healthy. About a week before I was admitted I had gotten blood drawn and everything looked perfectly fine.

>> No.15117908

>>15117885
Yikes, are you sure you're not a woman? Also btw some people are just unlucky, nothing you can do about it, sorry. You are the refuse of society, but at least your death will go towards science, so nevertheless you should still feel privileged, honored even.

>> No.15117916

Shit thread

>> No.15117917

>>15117908
I’ve asked the doctors why this happened to me when it seems to only happen to females. He said most documented cases are females which skews the data. It does happen to males “relatively” often.

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>>15117043

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>>15117580
kek

>> No.15119847

>>15117531
nice facebook boomer post

>> No.15120095

>>15117118
>60 years of repeated studies on similar viruses with near identical spike protein show that if you vaccinate against it, it causes clotting, cardiovascular and circulatory inflammation, systemic organ inflammation, interferes with natural immune response and eventually leads to enhanced infection on challenge with wild virus
>This happens with this vaccine and it's because of woo-woo stuff
The LNP is fucking awful and crosses all blood barriers enabling infection in places it really shouldn't (except in mucosal lung tissue, literally the only target of the vaccines) but the pathology is not new.
Sinovac is a more traditional vaccine and causes way worse ADE (due to antibodies dropping lower than the LNP/vector vaccines), the western vaccines cause retardation and first world inflammatory disorders due to infecting bone marrow/brain tissue/organs.
But even a completely trad vaccine would cause the primary clotting/heart death/enhanced infection pathology.

>> No.15120103 [DELETED] 

>>15119797
>>15120095
meds

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>>15117043
I ain't an intelligent person in healthcare, but the answer is likely staring you in the face. Your doctors likely have pressure on them to not say it was the vaxx-- and any who might've already had their license yanked.
Have you tried your lot on this site?
https://howbadismybatch.com/

>> No.15120189

>>15117043
>but are adamant that it couldn’t possibly have been because of the Covid vaccine
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it"

>> No.15120192

>>15117062
Psyop to poison the well. Don't be a retard and fall for this shit.

>>15117173
Yeah, go fuck someone with genital herpes or mononucleosis and get back to us.

>> No.15120194

>>15117292
Pfizer reported that one of their clinical trial patients who was disabled by the shot only had stomach pains. You'll never see a more underreported database in your life.

>> No.15120248

>>15120194
don't let him see the Joseph Fraiman's reanalysis of it

>> No.15120366

>>15120192
go find a proof that genital herpes or mononucleosis is infectious and get back to us

>> No.15120866

>>15117043
I hope your health improves Anon. Sadly I think >>15120182 has a point. If you live in Canada or California or Europe or somewhere similar it is quite likely that your doctor is experiencing some degree of pressure (even career threatening) to minimize 'alarmism' regarding vaccine injuries. I think we are on the edge of a crisis in patient practitioner trust if we keep going down this path.

>> No.15121230

>>15120866
>I think we are on the edge of a crisis in patient practitioner trust if we keep going down this path
My practitioner is trying to pressure me into taking boosters and I am legitimately terrified to even show up for my yearly physical. I don't really know what to do and I feel I am backed into a corner. I'd be fine taking my normal vaccines, but I actually got hives from the J&J one and I don't know how to say no to practitioners or what leverage they might have over me if I do.

>> No.15122066

>>15117043
>I can’t help but wonder if I would’ve gone through all of this had I not gotten the vaccine.
>I wonder if it really would’ve been worse had I gotten Covid instead.
this post is certainly a start in the right direction, but you must continue moving your feelings in order to come to an acceptance of your own denial about the situation. in the face of uncertainty, there was some level of trust in the authority and now it seems you feel betrayed by them; perhaps there was some unconscious betrayal of your own will. you have every right to feel angry about this, but we all make choices based on misunderstanding. these other health issues might be a result of the vax, but i wonder what your health would be like if we knew whether there was conscious intent by others to get you to overpower your will.

>> No.15122080

>>15121230
>I actually got hives from the J&J one and I don't know how to say no to practitioners or what leverage they might have over me if I do.
If you're American, then just get a new doctor, ffs. They don't have any power over you at all. How did you become this cucked? All you have to do is not listen to their inane babbling and quack "advice".

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>>15117043
YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE VAXXIE
HH

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>>15117043
>Got the booster in December (Pfizer). A month later, I had to be admitted to the hospital because I was experiencing terrible chest pain.
Just a coincidence.
Or maybe is your gas stove or your neighbors gas stove. They cause heart problems, haven't you watched CNN lately? kek

Joke picrel about MSM pushing the "stoves are causing the huge increase in heart issues, not vaccines!"

>> No.15122307

>>15119847
anon is correct tho.

>> No.15122448

>>15122302
>glowing journos pushing the gas stoves pollute the air
>meanwhile my county is dumping silver iodide into the air to summon the rain gods

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>>15122448
clown world.

>> No.15122524 [DELETED] 

>>15122302
>>15122448
>>15122457
you need meds

>> No.15122529

>it's vaxx vs. anti-vaxx
instead of
>is a nazi collaborator who gives up HIPPA protected personal health information pleb vs. is a don't-tread-on-me libertarian chad who exercises full U.S.A. Constitutional HIPPA personal health information protecting rights
tl;dr I'm not a nazi
my lord
how hard was that

>> No.15122532

I warned you people since 2015 not take any vaxx they rolled out while you all thought it was great fun to call me names and laugh. Sorry but I got no sympathy to give. I guess you arent laughing anymore

>> No.15122534

>>15122457
"Class, I'm assigning you a single problem as homework."
"What's the problem, teach?"
"The problem is government."
::blank stares from class::
::Teacher motions to security::
"Cuff 'em."
::students pick up their belongings and scramble chaotically as they try to evade the police officer's grasp::

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>>15122532
Some people never listen to good advice.

>> No.15122536

>>15122535
this is the man that warned me in 2009

>> No.15122539

>>15122535
https://vimeo.com/51269454

>> No.15122540

>>15122535
https://www.bitchute.com/video/tHOvB6hkYQDg/

>> No.15122559

>>15117043
>I have to preface this by saying I AM NOT ANTI VAX
Uh... why not?

>> No.15122691

>>15122535
Alex Jones is a treasure to humanity. One of the few brave enough to tell the truth about things.

>> No.15124057

>>15122535
based AJ dabbing on troons

>> No.15124155

>>15117043
What you allowed to be injected in to your body were symptoms reducers, like a flu shot. But unlike the flu shot, mRNA technology, technology not yet able to gain FDA approval for use on people with hiv and AIDS. You did not get a "vaccine" like say, Polio Vaccine, which does not require a new shot every year or as with this coronavirus, one every few months, according to the powers that be.
You made a choice. You're not over 80, yet you chose not to let your immune system fight this. You probably gave in to social pressure. You could have gotten a blank vax card online and made up a fake "proof" that would have worked in most places outside NYC and the military. You just had to think a tiny bit for yourself. I had COVID twice--and it didn't my top 10 worst colds. Not even close.

No one who gave out these "vaccines" is going to help you.

>> No.15124717

>>15124155
You speak hard words, but they are true.

>> No.15124727

>>15120366
You are retarded. Millions of people have contracted genital herpes through sex. I know several of them. Go expose yourself or shut the fuck up.

>> No.15124730

>>15121230
Just stop being a sniveling coward and tell them no

>> No.15124793

>>15121230
Find a new "doctor" and tell them why you are leaving their corrupt ass practice. That doctor is just a pharma pimp.

>> No.15124922

>>15124793
>>15124730
Do this holy shit wtf LOL

>> No.15125443

>>15124727
>Millions of people have contracted genital herpes through sex
60% of cases of genital HSV are blacks.
25% hispanics.
10% Asians
5% whites.

Best to avoid blacks entirely, and most hispanics also, if you don't want a lifetime of burning sores on your junk.

>> No.15126035

>>15117043
cool blogpost

>> No.15127358

>>15117043
OP's picrel of that faggot is appropriate for OP's wimpy sounding nature.

>> No.15127394

>>15124727
>Millions of people have contracted genital herpes through sex.
Proof?
>I know several of them.
You know several people with genital herpes who had sex with each other. Is that supposed to be a proof of anything?

>> No.15127435

>>15122691
No he is literally controlled opposition, guy used to invade gun law protests and take them over to deny actual protest

>> No.15127951

>>15127435
So then we need someone who makes Alex Jones look like Obama.

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>>15127951
Alex already looks like a gay man who sucks tranny cock regularly. Jones fits the Hastert/Pompeo archetype perfectly

>> No.15128987

>>15124727
"contraction" proven scientifically? or is it just your shill instructions say so?

>> No.15128992

>>15124155
disinformation shillshit

>> No.15129001

say what you want about Alex, I didnt take the vaxx because he warned me anyone who was smart enough to listen to me while was dunking on the shills and NPCs here and didnt take it also owes it to him

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>> No.15129051

>>15128987
>>15128992
>>15129001
>>15129048
>Schizo namefags
You three are all virgins and will die virgins. In the unlikely event you have had sex or will have sex, it will only be paid for via prostitution. You will die alone without friends, family or romance. You are social parasites who have been completely and utterly rejected by society. Nobody loves you, not even yourself. This is your future.

There is however an alternate future. One in which you may build relationships. One in which you won't die alone. That future requires seeking help, taking medication, and reintroducing yourself back into society. The choice is yours.

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>>15129051
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE
yah didnt read

>> No.15129127

>>15117071
>I’m not crazy man
Oof

>> No.15129150

>>15117043
>I have to preface this by saying I AM NOT ANTI VAX.
cringe lmao

>> No.15130345

oi how long does it take to get my smell/taste back normally?
just came out of an unvaxxed covid bout

>> No.15130347

>>15130345
varies. 2 weeks average.
train your senses again, smell different things in the dark or with a blindfold.

>> No.15130349

>>15130347
alright, thanks anon.

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>>15127951
Time for an extreme right wing anarchist to rise up and lead the world, that looks like picrel.

>> No.15130371

>>15127435
It’s amazing how many people cannot wrap their head around controlled opposition. It’s an ancient and continuous concept how do people still fumble so hard at seeing past the dichotomies in life.

>> No.15130374

>>15130371
That 4 D chess is tough yo!
Be keeping it simple is how most peepo think.

>> No.15130400

Vaccine induced thrombocytopenic thrombosis was typically seen in the Astra-Zeneca vaccine. Still rare, with rates estimated between 1 in 50,000 to 1 in 200,000. They needed up having clots in unusual areas - such as the cerebral venous sinuses.

I assume you tested positive for ANA and anti-histone antibodies, which suggests a drug induced lupus (rare, but can occur with a variety of different medicines).

Haematological issues post mRNA vaccines were less common. Although, I work as a doctor and had a patient present with bone marrow failure post-vaccine, eventually dying from neutropenic sepsis.

The proteinuria is likely the result of kidney involvement of the lupus (lupus nephritis).

No doctor in this thread will be able to tell you with absolute certainty. But if you did test positive for antibodies suggestive of drug induced lupus, and the vaccine was the only novel medicine you had administered at the time, then it's likely that the vaccine was the cause.

>> No.15130417

>>15130400
>then it's likely that the vaccine was the cause.
Doesn't take a book to say that.

>> No.15130449

>>15130417
I can't tell if you're being purposefully obtuse. It takes more than a book. We will need large amounts of post-market surveillance to help establish what ADEs can be attributed to the vaccine and which events continued to occur at their baseline rate (with the knowledge that health behaviours changed during lockdowns/COVID).

The problem is that autoimmune conditions can develop at any time, and some organic diseases may develop around the time of vaccination. So there will be people who develop conditions independent from the vaccine, but within weeks of days of the previous dose.

>> No.15130480

still, germ theory is a hoax

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>>15130345
>>15130347
samefag imitating dialog lol

>> No.15130494

>>15130449
>to help establish what ADEs can be attributed to the vaccine and which events continued to occur at their baseline rate (with the knowledge that health behaviours changed during lockdowns/COVID).
That's why it would have been good to keep a control group, but the vaccine companies decided to vaccinate them, out of the goodness of their heart you see.

>> No.15130546

>>15130483
woah nice detective skills Anon! definitely something worth formulating a nonsensical headcanon about

>> No.15131212

>>15117043
You took the mark of the beast, you get desolation

>> No.15131233

The idea of the 'redpill' is buying an idea when the price is low in the hopes of selling it high once everyone else finds out about it. 4channers invest early in experimental and contrarian ideas in the hopes that their sagacity will somehow be recognized in the future and a new social hierarchy will be formed with them at the top and all the npc cattle licking their feet and working as their slaves.

They thought the vaccine was finally their chance, a real happening that wasn't just on the horizon but actually happened in real time. Only now the dust has settled and nothing happened, no great reckoning, no re-ordering, still the same losers they ever were. So now they are furious, furious that they are still holding the bag, furious that they weren't rewarded for their devotion, and so they are doubling down and trying to manufacture the rapture, the mass die-off that will validate their investment. This explains why they continuously up the ante and predict ever greater consequences for the vaccinated each time another one of their due dates comes up dry. Double or nothing, double or nothing.

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The "vaccines" were specifically made to kill people, they don't do anything for "Covid" because the virus wasn't real in the first place, it's just the flu which they over-exaggerated into scaring the shit out of people so they would Inoculate themselves with a death-shot.

Congrats, you volunteered to euthanize yourself.

Do you wanna know what comes next?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3_bqcvDxvI
https://www.bitchute.com/video/GahB8ApHwuyW/
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/355979001_DETECTION_OF_GRAPHENE_IN_COVID19_VACCINES
https://www.bitchute.com/video/kJtvBDx2U6L8/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9hsrCAGAovXD/
https://www.stratcom.mil/Portals/8/Documents/FOIA/CONPLAN_8888-11.pdf?ver=2016-10-17-114016-887
https://web.archive.org/web/20181116073553/https://www.cdc.gov/cpr/zombie/index.htm
https://www.bitchute.com/video/fTCr9dDeXLBl/

>> No.15131631

>>15131563
Why is he only jumping onto this now?

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>>15117043
>I have to preface this by saying I AM NOT ANTI VAX
I have to postface this by saying YOU ARE A FUCKING RETARD.
That being said... if you really think all of this was some gargantuan coincidence, maybe you deserve the vax and perhaps you should look into getting another booster or two.

>> No.15131725

>>15117043
Dunno if you're religious OP, but if not, seriously consider it before you die https://www.bitchute.com/video/BxVVmBFUw0K9/

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>>15131563
all "viruses" are not real

>> No.15132092

>>15131563
>it's just the flu which they over-exaggerated

People were dying like flies, unvaxxed and vaxxed. It is not "just" a flu.

>> No.15132097

>>15132092
I'm sure it wasn't because of the non-existent healthcare and lockdowns.

>> No.15132104

>>15132092
people always are dying. you shill just connect death to imaginary cause.

>> No.15132108

>>15132097
diamond princess was a test run lockdown, to demonstrate how physical inactivity will make body weaker.

>> No.15132132

>>15132104
Fucking retard. You think all the hospitals, all over the world, started attributing random deaths to covid, in perfect synchronization with how the virus spread? All the goverments working together, updating the death tolls so it stays in accordance with the death percentage and all the other variables, and no doctors - anywhere - reporting anything about "faking" the cause of death?

"Look Dr.Shill, another decapitaded victim, an unfortunate car acci-
"Covid, it was covid you gormless fucking nurse"

>> No.15132176

>>15132132
There's no need for a "conspiracy", it's entirely possible that the science was just wrong about this.
You believe that the virus exists? Cool. Post scientific papers that would show it. Otherwise it's you who's a conspiracy theorist spreading dangerous misinformation.

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>>15132176
>it's entirely possible that the science was just wrong about this.
You know you're dealing with a brainwashed cult member when the phrase "the science" comes out of its mouth unironically.

>> No.15132214

>>15132176
What do you do for a living? Do you have hobbies? Friends? Plans for the future?

>> No.15132215

>>15132132
The initial death were just the regular flu, later when the bioweapon loaded PCR tests increased the death count, and the finally the vaxx made it even worse and now a huge portion of the planet is going to be gradually euthanized.

>> No.15132418

>>15132214
shill asking for ad hominem clues

>> No.15132424

>>15132215
there's no such thing flu, it's only a word to attach stereotypes pushed by government.

>> No.15132446

>>15132424
look up the origin of influenza, fascinating topic.
What does the latin really mean?

>> No.15132574

>>15117043
that movie is funny as hell, definitely good getting your dick sucked kino. most zoey movies are :S

no one is asking how much OP weighs. baka.

>> No.15132726

>>15132092
it was worse than seasonal flu, but far less deadly than previous pandemic influenzas. mostly because unlike influenza it only killed the extremely old or otherwise infirm. flu is vastly more deadly to the very young.
now the vaccines, patent drugs like remdesivir etc. are probably going to kill more people than covid

>> No.15132731

>>15132726
though the madlads that engineered omicron and "accidentally" released it into the wild may have saved many lives

>> No.15132742

>>15117043
>Is it crazy for me to think the vaccine may have caused all of this
Not at all, people have provenly died in my country for tthe same reason (thrombotic trombocytopenic purpura due to covid vaccine)

I don't feel sorry at all for your kind though. You can thank your vaxxed friends for that.

>> No.15132748

>>15117043
>They told me shit like this is about as rare as getting struck by lightning and that I shouldn’t worry about what really happened. They even want to document my case and publish it, despite it apparently having nothing to do with the Covid vaccine

>be fucking doctors
>hear vaccine reactions are rare
>see a vaccine reaction in front of their face
>won't report it because it vaccine reactions are/must be rare so it cannot possibly be the new gene therapy that is causing it
>vaccine reactions continue to be "rare"

>> No.15132781

>>15117043
>I have to preface this by saying I AM NOT ANTI VAX.
Well you should. Imagine being ashamed of identifying with anti-vax, people who were many years early about the injections dangerosity.

>> No.15132787

>>15117043
>I guess I’m saying all of this to ask the intelligent people in healthcare here (if there are any) what they really think. I can’t help but wonder if I would’ve gone through all of this had I not gotten the vaccine. I wonder if it really would’ve been worse had I gotten Covid instead. The side effects from the steroids and other meds I had to take have literally ruined my life. Heart palpitations, blurry vision, shaky hands, and I’ve been told that I have proteinuria now which could be the start of kidney disease.
Jesus you really, really are lagging behind in your understanding of things. Let me guess, you stopped believing in Santa Klaus at 12?

>> No.15132790

>>15117071
>Obviously Covid is real
Obviously said who? The medias? The WHO? Or the 2020 mortality statistics?

>> No.15132802

>>15132790
OP you probably got one of the bad batches. Indeed, 5% of the batches are responsible for 90% of the adverse reactions. They poisonned you.

>> No.15132813

>>15132802
based nocebo shilling

>> No.15132817

>>15132731
obviously you are so stupid you cannot find a decent job

>> No.15132822

>>15132446
it's just a word onto which you add labels
that is why priests and virologists love latin, to dumbfuck peoples minds with "clever" words

>> No.15132829

>>15132813
>>15132817
>>15132822
Is this what you resort to after all your pro-vax shilling failed? It's not impressive.

>> No.15132832

>>15132829
you are government shill

>> No.15132838

>>15132424
flu is a detoxication process. you don't heal from a flu, flu is the healing.

>> No.15132902

>>15132832
Which government am I helping by arguing against government mandates?

>> No.15133114

>>15132802
>bad batches
Where please to look up batches thank you?

>> No.15133117

>>15133114
https://howbadismybatch.com/

>> No.15133136

>>15133117
thanks anon.

>> No.15133441

>>15132838
then stop labelling it "flu" which has another official definition

>> No.15133445

>>15132902
global government, by promoting virology hoax, shill

>> No.15134035

>>15117071
I don't know if Covid is real or not but it's definitely not obvious.

>> No.15134360

>>15117043
>but are adamant that it couldn’t possibly have been because of the Covid vaccine.

Brainwashed goyim all the way to the end.

>> No.15134362

>>15117071
>Obviously Covid is real

You should definitely take another booster.

>> No.15134401

>>15132822
So you're an actual retard who doesn't even know your own topic?
Influenza means at the will of the stars because there was no pattern to its occurrence, it came and went at seemingly random until that is the late 1800s when the pattern changed to an annual cycle with the so called russian flu pandemic.
Trying to explain this is one fascinating journey.