/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15113853]

Why do people say "PTSD isn't real" like they do ADHD? What actually causes it? Why do some get it when others don't? Are some people more susceptible?

[Anonymous No.15113904]

the mental illness deniers are midwit tourists repeating what they heard someone else say

[Anonymous No.15113919]

>>15113904
They're mainly schizophrenics and other psychotics angry about having to take their meds. They use "softer" mental illnesses as their entry route as a type of red herring.

[Anonymous No.15113934]

>>15113853

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUDyxQi_SR8 you know too much...and no one would ever believe you, and you can't speak to anyone about it, and you wish you'd rather be dead.
post traumatic stress disorder.
the disorder, the world, it has consumed them

[Anonymous No.15113953]

>>15113904
>>15113919
>t.
Take your ZOGpharma placebos. That should help you calm down.

[Anonymous No.15113963]

>>15113853
PTSD is cultural. People who fight to defend their own communities don't get PTSD. People in pre-modern warrior societies didn't get PTSD either. You get PTSD when your experiences in combat cannot be reconciled with your other experiences in life.

[Anonymous No.15113995]

>>15113963
Basically becoming a soulless killbot for rapes and murders for Israel breaks a man's soul. Once broken, the soul never fully heals. Death is the only release and the damaged man knows this. Every day he wakes up with the shame and sorrow at not being able to end the pain himself. He is too broken to do even that. This is The Suck, welcome. You can never leave.

>Verification not required.

[Anonymous No.15113999]

>>15113995
ummm, sweaty? dying for israel is a privilege, in case your dumb antisemitic antivaxxer ass didn't know

[Anonymous No.15114001]

>>15113995
Yes, knowing that you were killing people for nothing takes a huge moral toll on your soul. This is the root of PTSD. If you were killing people for a cause your culture and community recognize as just, then you don't get PTSD.

[Anonymous No.15114006]

>>15113904
>>15113919
This is going to be true schizo post take on mental illness but I don't give a shit, here it goes.

Pretty sure everyone has mental disease, to the point where it's fundamental to the human condition of living on this planet.
According to the DSM mental illnesses can't really be diagnosed as disease unless it interferes in your life somehow.
Some people have managed to take their mental illnesses and find a way to make it work for them so they become successful, and that's the big trick. Everyone, EVERYONE on this Earth is in some way crazy, and the ones we say aren't crazy merely get called that because they have success in life. The real problem with humanity, and the source of many woes, is that those same people who are insane but are successful enough to have their denials about it humored and encouraged by the masses, they get to define how to measure success. Their success becomes metric that all others measure success by, and they become the role models for success. If you sit down and think about it, this really is just circular logic.

[Anonymous No.15114008]

>>15114006
>According to the DSM
dropped

[Anonymous No.15114013]

>>15113953
Nobody suggested pharma was the solution, just that mental illnesses exist. Your reading comprehension is really on par with 4chin

[Anonymous No.15114016]

>>15114013
What do you really expect from a wojack poster?

[Anonymous No.15114022]

>>15114013
Where do you think the 50 fake disorders you suffer from came from if not pharma shills?

[Anonymous No.15114024]

>>15114022
We're talking about PTSD, not vax injuries. Go to another thread.

[Anonymous No.15114026]

I have PTSD from /sci/. Every night I remember that thread where everyone called me retarded for not knowing calculus.

[Anonymous No.15114029]

>>15114024
>We're talking about PTSD
No, you weren't. You were chimping out because OP mentioned people calling out your fake disorders. ADHD doesn't exist. Cope harder, drug addict.

[Anonymous No.15114031]

>>15114029
You are the only one in this thread trying to talk about something other than PTSD. Fuck off retard.

[Anonymous No.15114038]

>>15114031
You were chimping out and updooting your buddy about "mental illness deniers". Your ADHD is fake, either way. :^)

[Anonymous No.15114040]

>>15114038
>You were chimping out and updooting your buddy about "mental illness deniers".
Schizo.

[Anonymous No.15114043]

>>15114040
See:
>>15113904
>>15113919
Meds now.

[bodhi No.15114047]

>>15113853
it is classical conditioning mixed severe trauma. If every time you heard a bell ring someone bashed you in the head with a baseball bat then when it stopped you would still react to the bell as a kind of muscle memory. It is a survival mechanism that is good for you. Same way if you hear a horn getting louder crossing the street you are going to freeze and look for a car coming towards you because you can unconsciously tell it is coming at you fast based on how the tone is changing. Your body is reacting unconsciously when you are conditioned to something. BTW the (((CIA))) is well aware of this and "Satanic Ritual Abuse" is how they create "Manchurian Candidates" like Bobby Kennedy's killer Sirhan Sirhan (however it is spelled).

[bodhi No.15114056]

>>15114006
https://esotericawakening.com/clown-world

[Anonymous No.15114060]

>>15114022
I do not suffer from mental illnesses, and I am not in any medicine. But I don't deny that some people have mental illnesses

[bodhi No.15114063]

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/satanic-ritual-abuse-principles-treatment

[Anonymous No.15114064]

>>15114060
>I do not suffer from mental illnesses
>I don't deny that some people have mental illnesses
You fall under the definition of "some people".
You have a mental illness.
You deny having mental illness.
Therefore you deny that some people have mental illness.

[Anonymous No.15114071]

>>15114064
Incomprehensible, please seek meds

[Anonymous No.15114075]

>tfw when the namefag is already in my filter

[Anonymous No.15114076]

>>15114071
Take your meds.

[Anonymous No.15114174]

>>15113919
no they're not. they don't have schizophrenia and mes prescribed. they are just retards looking for something easy to deny to feel smart.

[Anonymous No.15114246]

>>15114001
Why do people get PTSD from self defense killings? Do they think they deserved to die, given it was life or death?

[Anonymous No.15114295]

>>15114246
They don't, unless they're in a society that vilifies them for it (e.g. Rittenhouse.)

[Anonymous No.15114297]

>>15114246
I wouldn't call shooting unarmed civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan "self defense", i'm glad PTSD exists, you mutts need to suffer for the rest of your life.

[Anonymous No.15114299]

>>15114297
You added that context, he didn't say that.

[Anonymous No.15114305]

>>15113853
if you went to the desert you wanted to go to the desert to fight for your owners and own psychotic desires. i dont think they have a leg to stand on. i agree with >>15113963

[Anonymous No.15114363]

>>15114299
He's just a vatnik schizo, ignore him.

[Anonymous No.15114376]

>>15114026
have you learned calculus since then?

[Anonymous No.15114383]

The notion of a mental disease doesn't make sense when the physical cause of that disease has never been identified. At best, you can argue for a cluster of symptoms that then constitutes some imprecise notion of a mental disability, but the question which symptoms you count as part of that mental disability ultimately remains vague and ill-defined. The other issue is that symptomatology necessarily relies on arbitrary thresholds. You can take the example of 'ADHD' and argue that it is a bona fide disease. But any argument that you might introduce relies either on unproven statements or on value judgments derived from some observation that someone has made before. And no one could really provide me with an argument as to why someone who scores sufficiently high in ADHD traits is deemed diseased whereas someone who scores high in traits related to homosexuality is not deemed diseased despite the latter's much more significant impact on overall reproductive fitness. The other issue is that any mental illness, at least if sufficiently large, starts being both an identity and a tool to acquire resources. Most cases of diagnosed dyslexia cases don't involve children with a marked weakness in reading comprehension or writing, but children whose reading/writing skills are in fact normal relative to their overall intelligence performance. The reason such children get diagnosed with dyslexia in the first place is because of the benefits of the label, e.g. more exam time, lowered scholastic expectations that protect at-risk kids from dropping out of school etc. But none of these are valid biological constructs.

[Anonymous No.15114395]

>>15114383
Ultimately, even if some many people intuitively understand what I wrote, the issue still stands that at least some people profit of these labels including large players such as the pharmaceutical industry. So, I'm not expecting for these labels to disappear soon anyway even if they are scientifically invalid and medically pointless. But one should be wary. Labels such as ADHD, autism, depression don't identify valid medical diagnoses. They're at best markers of disability that are cunningly used by our society to deflect the problems back to the person and to redirect them to private corporations that can treat their 'illness' and consequentally earn profits.

[Anonymous No.15114471]

>>15113995
I have been on tour to ME, I didn't get PTSD.