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LauncherOne edition. Will Virgin Orbit launch it before DEMO-1? ABL already scrubbed into the 10th lmao
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>>15111220
too much text in OP

>> No.15111233

>>15111225
Was about to make an ABL vs Virgin themed thread, but then I saw that ABL slipped into tomorrow and felt I had to mention that.

>> No.15111234

ABL EDITION
NO BLUFF NO FLUFF
JUST SIMPLE HUMBLE ROCKETS

>> No.15111237

>>15111234
We can have an ABL edition tomorrow, if it doesn't slip again.

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>> No.15111242

>>15111220
Tianwen-1 might be kill. And if that’s the case then there’s no way to communicate with the Zhurong lander
https://twitter.com/coastal8049/status/1612294474042081283

>> No.15111244

The fermi parasnoff
smermy fartbof

>> No.15111245
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>>15111242
Well that was quick.

>> No.15111252

unabl strikes again

>> No.15111255

>>15111242
I hope NASA let's them use their orbiters

>> No.15111264

New KSP2 footage: https://youtube.com/shorts/LJo06FXTFZ4

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>>15111242
It was due to perform some aerobreaking tests right before this. Looks like it got too cocky and lowered its orbit by way too much and now they can’t establish a lock

>> No.15111267

>>15111264
2012 tier graphics

>> No.15111268

>>15111242
>>15111255
Mars Express is the backup satellite, although it's probably on its last legs too and pretty low bandwidth

NASA probably could help them with their orbiter, but can't because politics

>> No.15111269

>>15111267
That's progress.

>> No.15111270

>>15111267
In other world, a definitive step-up from KSP1.

>> No.15111271

>>15111264
it looks amazing, cant wait

>> No.15111272

>>15111265
>aerobraking test with an orbiter
For what reason?

>> No.15111273

>>15111264
Blows my mind how, despite all this time since the very first KSP build and all the delays for KSP2, someone hasn’t just made their own orbital video game that runs way smoother
KSP2 is going to suck i’m not even excited for it anymore

>> No.15111278

>>15111273
>KSP2 is going to suck i’m not even excited for it anymore
What happened?

>> No.15111280

>>15111278
He's a doomer, don't bother

>> No.15111282

>>15111265
>>15111272
Oh shite I just realized andrew jones published an article about it on space news like 5 hours ago
https://spacenews.com/chinas-tianwen-1-mars-orbiter-and-rover-appear-to-be-in-trouble/

>> No.15111287

>>15111278
sold to take 2 , that's what fucking happened. if the devs are running it like shit on their rigs it will never run good on anything

>> No.15111297

>>15111282
Wow even with passive and active anti-dust contingencies (can’t think of a better word ugh) the rover has been in hibernation since May of last year and dust might have killed it
And the orbiter seems to have fucked off into its own orbit? This is weird. Well even if the mission is dead now it’s still a really good run for a first attempt from China.

>> No.15111312

>>15111297
these guys plan a sample return before US

>> No.15111313

Perseverance and Curiosity will last until the first human landing.
There is pretty much nothing that could kill them.

>> No.15111317

>>15111313
For how long does their nuclear batteries last?

>> No.15111318

>>15111313
Considering the Voyagers still work I have little doubts. Curiosity might lose its wheels though

>> No.15111320

>>15111313
jpl intern here, we're killing curiosity in may and no you did not hear it frum me

>> No.15111329
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>>15111313

>> No.15111339

They have started methane heat exchangers and Ship hasn't even been stacket yet...

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>>15111329
'tis merely a flesh wound

>> No.15111360

>>15111339
Propellant has been warming up for a long time. They're chilling it with nitrogen and putting it back in the storage tanks.

>> No.15111371

>>15111360
lame

>> No.15111375

https://youtu.be/baHSxMQzGN8?t=490
everyday astronaut said the word "pooped" in his new video

>> No.15111382
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>>15111375
>best space moments of 2022
>starship on the thumb

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>> No.15111420

I want to learn sciences from scratch but I have no experience. Please can you provide some tips for me?

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>>15111420

>> No.15111434

>>15111433
What should I read?

>> No.15111441

>>15111434
How about that sticky on the front page? (>>5942502)

MIT OCW. Kahn Academy. Harvard and Stanford put the syllabus for a lot of their courses out for free.

>> No.15111443

>>15111273
KSP2 should have looked like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTc7SIfwC5c

>> No.15111470

>>15111441
I have bad eyesight, apologies. Thank you.

>> No.15111485

>>15111017
>How much would such a constellation cost?
A lot.
But with boost cost dropping and a somewhat serialized production of the mirrors and sunshield parts itr would be cheaper to make than the one-off JWST.

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>> No.15111504

>>15111313
>There is pretty much nothing that could kill them.
expect a cat

>> No.15111530

>>15111273
I don't think KSP 2 will suck but as others pointed out it will probably run like fucking ass when rendering large structures. Besides, it will be a while until mods like RSS and Principia start popping.

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>dream chaser has no windows
why does everything needs to be so lame?

>> No.15111536

>>15111531
it has no crew

>> No.15111539

>>15111531
Where they are going you don't need eyes to see.

>> No.15111541

>>15111536
Will the crewed versions have windows?

>> No.15111542

>>15111497
Looks like something you'd see in MoMA.

>> No.15111546

>>15111220
First for fuck Branson, don't destroy my fucking satellite

>> No.15111549

>>15111539
Do you hear the voices too?

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>>15111539

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Who remembers this gem
https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1184150505720897537

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Falcon Heavy is rolling out for USSF-67 mission

>> No.15111560

>>15111554
Astronauts be like
>fuck, I’d rather fly on a DC without windows than fly on a Starliner!

>> No.15111567

Guys, How long has it been since the last Starship launch-landing?
I just feel like they're gonna stall for another Year.

>> No.15111570

>>15111375
I skimmed it, here are his opinions
>Honorable mentions: Tiangong completion, SpaceX launch cadence, Super Heavy 14 engine test (lol), end of longest-duration X-37B mission, Perseverance/Ingenuity progress, Vega-C debut (lol), Chinese solid rocket and LM6A debuts, Angara 1.2 debut, Sag A image, Axiom 1
>8: Boeing OFT-2
>7: Firefly Alpha
>6: KPLO
>5: CAPSTONE
>4: LOFTID
>3: DART
>2: Artemis 1
>1: JWST

>> No.15111572

Lol Cygnus is going to use 4 Falcon 9 launches before switching to the Antares 330. Think NG and Firefly can get Anteres 330 running by 2024?

>> No.15111577

>>15111572
>Firefly needing to develop a whole new engine and first stage ready for operational missions by the end of next year
Hmm, I wonder

>> No.15111584

>>15111530
I'm just pissed off that all the new shit isn't coming at launch, it's literally just gonna be ksp1 with prettier graphics until god knows how long.

>> No.15111591

>>15111570
>Artemis 1 above DART

>> No.15111599

>>15111390
Orbital flight when?

>> No.15111600

>>15110904
>>15110790
>>15110895
>with more mature quantum computing we can achieve visible light interferometry and hence arbitrary aperture size
Quantum computing doesn't make any difference for this task. The problem is that visible light detectors (CCDs) only record intensity information of light. To do interferometry computationally you need both the phase and intensity information, and with CCDs the phase information is gone. At radio wavelengths there is the advantage that a radio antenna can measure both phase and amplitude simultaneously, nothing like that exists in the visible.
The only realistic way to do useful interferomtery at visible wavelengths is with direct recombination, like the VLTI and other ground based interferometers. This still requires combining the light with matched path lengths down to a sub-wavelength accuracy. No one knows how to build a formation flying constellation with such tight tolerances, although ESA is pushing the state of the art with Proba 3. For small numbers of telescopes it's possible to use delay lines for fine adjustment but it doesn't scale to large numbers. The maximum baseline (related to the resolution) will be set by the precision. Note that even with all these things solved interferometers are niche instruments, they have very small fields of view and nobody knows how to build one which could replace general purpose telescopes.

>> No.15111601

>>15111577
Oof forgot Beta is supposed to be the next rocket.....

>> No.15111612

>>15111497
What's that

>> No.15111620

>quantum computing
>>/x/

>> No.15111621

>>15111559
anyone knows what the f are they launching? Regular spy sats shouldn't be that big to require a FH unless it's many of them or something new.

>> No.15111625

>>15111591
yes, unironically.

>> No.15111626

>>15111584
It sucks. But I guess better that than launching an unfinished product as V1 and the abandoning it.

>> No.15111629

>>15111621
There have been some historically huge spooksats launched in the past.

>> No.15111634

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1612537432871927808
Oh shit the SpaceX double header is still on, but Vandy Starlink is only 30% favorable.

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>>15111629
It's kind of frustrating, The biggest things I can find are the KH11 (KH12, KH13?...) and Orion/Mentor, but all of these are launched by the NRO on ULA rockets I think. I guess it could be just a bunch of stuff from SIGINT, early warning, killsats, recon and who knows what.

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https://twitter.com/considercosmos/status/1612488479753093120?t=EiF7kpvEuPbqyjP5WL-eBg&s=19

Full stack soon

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>>15111220
The missile that planey jet is carrying looks pretty heavy. Won't it be really unbalanced in flight?
Plus when it's dropped it could cause an unintentional barrel roll.

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>>15111670
The airplane is a lot heavier than the rocket, and that particular spot in the wing is a hardpoint built for carrying large external loads. It's most frequently used to ferry spare engines.

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>>15111625

>> No.15111719

>>15111670
there is no Z button on the SNES

>> No.15111720
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artemis 3's SLS

>> No.15111724

>>15111541
Yep

>> No.15111728

>>15111554
maybe they can just add a little window like 1 inch x 1 inch

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At the same time as full stack, Falcon Heavy is headed to the pad for static fire

>> No.15111740

>>15111600
Thanks for the insight. Wouldn't an advantage of a space based interferometer be that the multiple telescopes could be connected rigidly and there would be no need for delay lines that change length like on the VLT. ESA also has the LISA mission which will use interferometers floating inside "shells" to protect them from external disturbances. couldn't that also be useful for formation flying?

>> No.15111742

>>15111724
uh >>15111554

>> No.15111747

>>15111650
these bad boys are listening in on Ukraine as we speak.

>> No.15111748

NASA presentation
https://science.nasa.gov/science-pink/s3fs-public/atoms/files/AAS_Jan2023_final_online.pdf

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http://shadowcam.sese.asu.edu/images/1284
KPLO/Danuri image of Shackleton at <2m resolution

>> No.15111763

https://youtu.be/5Co18HcyqHk
LATE

>> No.15111778

>>15111763
LIVE (too live)

>> No.15111781

>>15111778
>not playing the Stones "Start me up"
shameful, but still rockin

>> No.15111782

Stack happening

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Why is sign language so hilarious

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>>15111787
Because recently these retards have started being extra expressive when signing, but it always looks silly.

>> No.15111795
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We never should've ended the black arrow program. Now we're permanently planecucked

>> No.15111798

>>15111546
it's your fault, you decided to launch from cornhole

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>>15111782

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Apologize.

>> No.15111803

So what exactly is the bail-out contingency in the even the thing fucking blows up or the release mechanism fucks up and it shears the whole wing off?
I guess it’s only programmed to actually fire once it has a clear separation confirmation but still

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>>15111799
Rotating to align with the booster now

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>>15111803
>So what exactly is the bail-out contingency
In a decade or so Phillip Glass composes beautiful music to play over footage of your death.

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>>15111812

>> No.15111819

>>15111803
There is no bailing out of an airliner. It would be harder to fuck up the rocket drop system, however.

>> No.15111821

>>15111612
gridfin viewed from the bottom diagonally

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>>15111220
>America wins 2026 World Cup
>Artemis III delayed to 2026
>2026 is the 250 year anniversary of the USA


How based would it be if we brought the World Cup to the moon in 2026?

>> No.15111834

>>15111803
Hydrobreaking into the ocean surface have fun

>> No.15111835
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>>15111829
We should leave it up there and make the other countries go get it themselves if they want it so damned bad.

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Have they built a second one just in case this one blows up? /tv/ here btw

>> No.15111848

>>15111846
A second what?

>> No.15111855

>>15111848
A second one, in case the first one blows up.

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IT'S STACKENING

>> No.15111859

>>15111846
There's no way that's real

>> No.15111860

>>15111855
kys

>> No.15111865

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg
dragon undockng

>> No.15111869

I still find it hilarious that the grid finds won’t fold. It looks cool having them spread eagle with the starship flaps right on top of them

>> No.15111870

>>15111859
That's from the film Contact starring Jodie Foster and it's great.
>>15111860
Is there a second one?

>> No.15111871

https://youtu.be/ufyqE7-fLPs
if youarent watching this what are you even doing with your life

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kino

>> No.15111874

>>15111869
Yes look good.
>>15111870
Second one of what?

>> No.15111876

>>15111871
I'm watching the Virgin plane take off

>> No.15111877

>>15111865
It just dawned on me. Is this upcoming “rescue” dragon going to be Expedition 69?

>> No.15111879

>>15111787
>>15111792
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B9bWxUcnQM

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>> No.15111883

>>15111874
Second plane if the first one blows up. They have a backup right

>> No.15111887

>>15111876
i hope it scrubs and they drop the rocket and the pilot fatally dies

>> No.15111888

>>15111570
>Spacex launch cadence an honorable mention
lolwut
A single company hits greater than a launch-a-week cadence and this is somehow less significant than OFT-2? Shit, I would put B1051's last flight higher than Starliner yet again falling to meet expectations.

>> No.15111889

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Co18HcyqHk&ab_channel=VirginOrbit

Cape Cornwall

>> No.15111890

>>15111883
Not sure. If the plane blows up people die and the FAA cucks them out of launching for three years.

>> No.15111892

>>15111888
Tim’s probably trying to go out of his way to not seem spacex-biased at this point considering the fact that he has secured a Starship flight lol

>> No.15111894

>>15111883
Orbital's Pegasus has done without a backup plane for decades. Its tri-motor is now the last of its kind.

>> No.15111896

>>15111888
Estronaut is a horrendous Bezos lover, it's sickening

>> No.15111899

>>15111890
It’s really the NTSB that cucks them, a la the virgin galactic failure. But yeah

>> No.15111902

We're rolling bongs

>> No.15111903

>>15111871
I'm chatting with a girl. I sent her this and she said it's interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFSq4Q8WDs0

>> No.15111905

>>15111899
NTSB is also currently in charge of the New Shep failure investigation. Even though it was unmanned they strong-armed their way in on the basis that is “also carries humans”. They suck.

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>> No.15111922

Feel like Branson should be playing Tubular Bells instead of The Rolling Stones.

>> No.15111924

>>15111781
ah, they saved it for the actual takeoff, nice!

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>>15111846
>Why build one when you can build three for thrice the price?

It doesn't really speak well of their launcher's rapid cadence capabilities if they have to triple their fleet to meet a minimally diversified set of clients.

>> No.15111935

how long until launch?

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>> No.15111938

>>15111935
2 weeks

>> No.15111939

>>15111938
that's a long plane flight

>> No.15111940

>>15111924
https://youtu.be/lAkuJXGldrM
another launch

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dragon departing

>> No.15111943

Just realized there's going to be a ton of UFO ''sightings'' in here in Europe tonight kek

>> No.15111945

>>15111933
Just you fucking wait. Branson has a roadmap for launch superheavy lifters from planes. It will be glorious, I hope you've invested

>> No.15111955

>>15111945
Just weld a couple of 747s together, simple as.

>> No.15111956

https://twitter.com/Austen/status/1612527550089293824
I'm bloomin'

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>> No.15111961

>>15111956
Hypothetically speaking, what would it take for SeX not to be successful? What would be some event or circumstance that would determine its demise even if they're on a great ascent trajectory with plenty to still offer currently?

>> No.15111962

>>15111892
Yeah he won't be touring that Starbase again

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>>15111846
>>15111855
Make two, at twice the price!

>> No.15111966

hilarious i could see cosmic girl from my house haha!
UK space port is actually just an old large military air base called St Mawgan that i used to go to air shows at. i saw the frecce tricolori do a pass under the tail of a C130 tailplane with 2 airmen sat on top of it. they were clearly insane, and caused the rammstein air show disaster a few months later

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>>15111829
>America wins 2026 World Cup

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>> No.15111970

>>15111943
why aren't there a lot of UFO sighting here in Europe when they launch from Florida

>> No.15111971

What would happen if the UK restarts the black arrow program?

>> No.15111973
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>>15111971
Europe sinks
>.t doomer europoor

>> No.15111974

>>15111971
nothing

>> No.15111976

>>15111971
no need to, just buy in the stuff these days

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>>15111873
They still haven't launched anything from that contraption yet, and I don't think I'm going to get tired of it any time soon.

>> No.15111978

>>15111956
>SpaceX is reusing rockets for the 15th time, no one else is reusing.
Isn't the new shepard reusable? Also RL didn't reuse an electron so far but they're trying.

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>>15111877
>Expedition 69

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>>15111978
>new shepard
Yeah this one is fully reusable too

>> No.15111987

so will they be destacking SS again?

>> No.15111990

>>15111987
yes, thats all they do now
stack, destack, move it back to the hangar, move it to the tower again, stack it, destack it, elon tweets that launch is in 2 weeks, repeat

>> No.15111991

>>15111987
yes

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https://twitter.com/NASA/status/1612577720021704705

>> No.15111997

>>15111987
WDR and possibly static fire

>> No.15112000

>>15111740
>Wouldn't an advantage of a space based interferometer be that the multiple telescopes could be connected rigidly and there would be no need for delay lines that change length like on the VLT.
Yes, but that's only practical for a hundred meters or so. And at optical wavelengths you would still need delay lines. A limitation of such a system is that for good imaging you want lots of different angles and separations. Rails are only really possible for a very small number of telescopes. On the ground this is done my observing at different times and altitudes.
>ESA also has the LISA mission which will use interferometers floating inside "shells" to protect them from external disturbances. couldn't that also be useful for formation flying?
LISA is useful for demoing some elements (measurement and gentle thrusters) but it is a passive interferometer. It doesn't have to keep the separation at any precise value, just measure how it changes.

>> No.15112001

>>15111961
Musk getting assassinated for wrong think, and spacex forcefully merged into boing.

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>>15112001
>doomfags

>> No.15112007

>>15111961
Years of Starship failures requiring tons of capex. Starlink not being able to reach profitability with F9 alone. Forced abandonment of SS and Starlink due to said reasons. That would tick my not successful box even if they continued F9 services.

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>spacex forcefully merged into boing.

>> No.15112013
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Fucking launch it already

>> No.15112017

>>15112010
They only do this shit if it’s actually to everyone’s benefit. This would just fuck everything up. The gooberment also blocks mergers and acquisitions of multi-billion $ companies if they think it will be detrimental. Oh lockheed wants to buy aerodyne? Nope!

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God, I wish SpaceX would tinker around with aircraft.

>> No.15112025

>>15112019
Shut the fuck up retard, they should focus everything into their rockets.

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>>15112019
RIP

>> No.15112031

God I wish SpaceX would tinker around with tonka trucks

>> No.15112035

God I wish SpaceX would tinker around with fleshlights

>> No.15112038

>>15112019
When Starship can fly to orbit and land anywhere on Earth (with legs installed), you dont need an aircraft.

When it can carry 100 ton anywhere around earth in 30 minutes.

When it can stay in orbit for years carrying 100 ton

When it can be refueled in orbit to stay up indefinitely

The possibilities are endless.

>> No.15112043

>There are four SpaceX rockets on launch pads right now
>Three different types of launch vehicles
>Two of them are launching tonight

>> No.15112045

>>15112031
Based shlad

>> No.15112047

>>15112035
Japan already had a rocket launch with Tenga themed livery, believe it or not

>> No.15112049

>>15112047
based nips

>> No.15112053

>>15112043
NASA wishes they could

>> No.15112057

>>15112045
>>15112047
I believe you mixed the two anons here.

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God I wish SpaceX would tinker around with EVAs or gigantic (space) robots.

>> No.15112060

>>15112043
FH is literally 3 F9s sticked together and SS is an ornamental rocket

>> No.15112063

>>15112060
>FH is literally 3 F9s sticked together
It's not that easy.

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>> No.15112068

>>15112066
soulless vs SOVL

>> No.15112069

>>15112063
This is literally true for once. Commonality between side boosters and regular Falcon 9s was only recently achieved, and the center core is unique to Falcon Heavy.

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I remember when Windows 95 could make a grown man cry.

>> No.15112072

>>15112043
All three are just V2 derivatives it’s not that big of a deal

>> No.15112074

>>15112059
why do you think Tesla called their robot Optimus?
it's just the beginning

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here we go

>> No.15112076

a couple minutes until the Virgin Orbit drop and launch

>> No.15112077

>>15112066
s0i vs s0iless

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>> No.15112083
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>drop ready
>target: esa headquarters

>> No.15112085

Is there seriously no footage?

>> No.15112087

>>15112085
It's night time you git.

>> No.15112088

>>15112019
Shame they didn't bid for the Ground Based Strategic Deterrent.

>> No.15112092

Oh, nevermind, here's four vaguely rocket shaped pixels and some elevator music, thank god.

>> No.15112095

wtf is with this dudes eyes on the stream

>> No.15112097

the stream is nice however the some units are not metric

>> No.15112098

>no speed or altitude telemetry

>> No.15112100

>>15112095
One eye on the rocket, one eye on the telemetry

>> No.15112101

>>15112083
>target: esa headquarters
They are already considering the possibility of forming an international committee to discuss whether or not they should go ahead with evacuating the building.

>> No.15112102

I didn't even notice they launched since I had the page in background. Incredibly anticlimatic.

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>> No.15112106
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off-nominal

>> No.15112107

>>15112066
how to get this job?

>> No.15112108

another fucking Vega

>> No.15112109

>that altitude graph

>> No.15112110

singles and it fails

>> No.15112111
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We good

>> No.15112115

>>15112106
brachistochrone tragectory

>> No.15112116

>>15112106
Out to Pluto now

>> No.15112117
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>>15112112
Really, really good.

>> No.15112119

>>15112111
checking stack

>> No.15112120

>>15112112
Lmao

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>>15112104
He's fast!!

>> No.15112122

dubs and it's a success

>> No.15112124

New sign language guy just dropped

>> No.15112125

>>15112122
barbiecue roll

>> No.15112126

>BarbequeRoll

Doesn't he mean Barrel Roll?

>> No.15112128

someone post Bezos Champaigne webm

>> No.15112130

Uhh Why's there a police officer in the mission control centre

>> No.15112133

>>15112130
Check the public's rocket watching loicenses

>> No.15112136

>>15112130
ARREST RICHARD BRANSON NOW
!

>> No.15112142

>>15112130
He is the launch control officer. He will shoot everyone there if Virgin Orbit's lisence gets revoked.

>> No.15112143

>>15112130
Lock the doors.

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>>15112122

>> No.15112145
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>> No.15112148

>>15112145
me bottom left

>> No.15112150

Are we going to tenerife?

>> No.15112151

>>15112145
me taking the photo

>> No.15112152

>>15112112
>10 millions billions feet
>3e+11km
How far in space would that be? Another galaxy?

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>>15112142
more like LUNCH control officer LMAO

>> No.15112158

>>15112145
Now show me the Chad Launch control room

>> No.15112161

>>15112130
Notionalise Virgin Orbit now!

>> No.15112165
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>> No.15112168

>>15112145
Why is there a cop?

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>>15112145
>"""spaceport""" cornwall is some warehouse
>mission control is a geography classroom
The absolute state

>> No.15112170

>>15112168
to suppress rioting by rocket hooligans

>> No.15112172

>>15112152
not even close to andremoda

>> No.15112179
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lifting bodies can be pretty too

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>> No.15112185

>>15112168
i don't think they have the tv license to be watching at those screens.

>> No.15112186

>>15112183
China should invest in higher quality cameras. Their rockets are actually pretty, but you only ever see them in 140p lmao

>> No.15112190

>>15112186
that pic looks really good though

>> No.15112193

>>15112066
work at spacex but have an office like nasa's

>> No.15112194

>>15112183
Why does this booster setup look so janky in KSP but so cool here

>> No.15112195

super heavy launch vehicle with only storable propellants

>> No.15112196

>>15112183
Ariane 4 looking good

>> No.15112197

it's over

>> No.15112198

ANOMALY

>> No.15112200

test post

>> No.15112202

>>15112190
Yeah that was my point!

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Lads, we completely fucked up

>> No.15112205

IT’S OVER

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>>15112110
unchecked

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The timeline LMAO.

>> No.15112213

I KNEW IT

This mission had Vega C energy I told you so >>15112108

>> No.15112215
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Launcher One anomaly
not going to space today

>> No.15112214

>>15112198
It was that 90 degree turn at 4 billion mph that did it.

>> No.15112217

So how are Virgin Orbit shares doing

>> No.15112219
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RICHARD BRANSONIUS GIVE ME BACK MY SATELLITE

>> No.15112220

>>15112217
fucking freefall

>> No.15112221

>>15112215
Optimism: Gone

>> No.15112222

Will ABL nail it tomorrow?

>> No.15112223

Absolutely fucking over for VO

>> No.15112225

These tiny meme rockets seem to fail a lot more than larger ones

>Falcon 1
>Astra
>Launcher One

expect the same of Spin launch and ABL

>> No.15112229

>>15112225
I don't expect anything of Spinlaunch

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ITS OVER

>> No.15112231

>>15112225
How is the success rate of Electron so far?

>> No.15112235

>>15112229
wrong

>> No.15112238

i don't actually want these missions to fail, but it's so funny when they do and I check the comments here

>> No.15112237

dude angry astronaut is going so hard

>> No.15112239

>>15112230
gay rocket
literally a lipstick

>> No.15112242

https://twitter.com/VirginOrbit/status/1612589768415526912

>> No.15112243
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Never trust an englishman to deliver your payloads

>> No.15112244

>>15112229
Correct

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>> No.15112247

Maybe they just forgot how rockets work.

>> No.15112248

>>15112237
where?

>> No.15112250

Spaceport Cornwall is being raided by norfman. They are demanding Branson give them a free Virgin cruise each.

>> No.15112251

>>15112210
Even worse that the Vega incident. These guys looks like it wrote a tweet that it reached orbit. They don't even know where their rocket it

>> No.15112255

>>15112130
He's there to arrest every single employee for fucking up

>> No.15112257

>>15112245
Still looks ass, assuini. Try uploading the unmodified image next time.

>> No.15112261

>>15112245
Hdr-addicted fag

>> No.15112262

https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1612600516592238592
>Virgin Orbit $VORB stock plunging in after-hours trading, -23%.
>Was up ~3% when the company tweeted that it made orbit.
There it is

>> No.15112263

>>15112238
For the abysmal coverage that we got, I dont care

>> No.15112267

>>15112217
>So how are Virgin Orbit shares doing
They have failed to reach orbit.

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>Nine small satellites from military and commercial customers in the UK, the United States, Oman, and Poland were lost in tonight's Virgin Orbit launch failure.

>> No.15112269

They were literally talking over the time of launch. What the fuck was that

>> No.15112270

>>15112247
pointy end goes up or you are not going to space today

>> No.15112271

>>15112269
The best VO stream was that one that wasn't public and it's all downhill from there

>> No.15112272

>>15112268
good. next time maybe get a proper rocket like the falcon 9 or electron.

>> No.15112276

Virgin can't get their rocket vacuumed

>> No.15112279

Can't get it up

>> No.15112286

I unhid the chat for a moment and holy crap all the spamming. It's like the faggots didn't know the chat was there and never set it to slow mode.

>> No.15112287

another bong space failure, stick to fish&chips Harry

>> No.15112290

>we're removing our previous tweet about reaching orbit.
>after it had pumped our stock

mmmhmmmmm

>> No.15112292

Are these 2 Falcon 9 launches really be only 35 minutes apart?

>> No.15112300

>>15112292
Yes. It is intentional.
The tranny confirmed they were doing this in 2023.

>> No.15112303

>>15112292
That's what the flight plans say

>> No.15112304

>>15112250
BASED BAZZAS

>> No.15112306
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Drone footage

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>>15112268
problem?

>> No.15112308

>>15112306
KINO

>> No.15112310

>>15112306
>timing the drone movement with the chopsticks
nice use of fraudulons money

>> No.15112314

>>15112306
doomerism aside, holy shit it looks so cool and futuristic, we are gonna make it bros

>> No.15112315

>>15111787
As someone with a deaf gf, I can say usually ASL isn't this expressive, but there are a ton of regional dialects and if you're talking to a bigger audience than just people in your region, you need to go over the top

>> No.15112317

>>15112306
Link for original?

>> No.15112318

>>15112306
How many times have they stacked now?
It's boring at this point

>> No.15112319

>>15112317
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1612601348234817536

>> No.15112321

>>15112306
It's so smooth it feels like CGI.
Am I finally reaching the future or will this all eventually end like Apollo?

>> No.15112322

>>15112306
Fueling in 30

>> No.15112323

>>15112318
Like 5 times maybe.

>> No.15112326

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1612601348234817536

>> No.15112329

Love to see smallsoi launchers get fucked. Reminder that Electron, the most accomplished and reliable smallsat launcher, is not profitable.

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Glowies spotted

>> No.15112339

>>15112303
Why would you shoot a man before launching him into orbit?

>> No.15112346

someone should make a compilation of isolated rocket engine sounds with maximum crackle

>> No.15112351

>>15112306
I don't say it often, but I will say it now:
>KINO

>> No.15112356

>>15112321
>will this all eventually end like Apollo?
Worse. After Musk's fraud is exposed in about two weeks, space exploration will be banned, until we fix our problems here on Earth.

>> No.15112358

>>15112306
>the sync of the drone with the starship rotation
I'm not usually a musk guy but this shit's cash

>> No.15112361

>>15112356
>fix our problems down here on earth
ftfy

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15112370

How many months (weeks?) until VO is bankrupt or acquired?

>> No.15112374

Tim Dodd the Everyday Astronaut likes to do the monkey holding its hands over its eyes emoji

>> No.15112378

>>15112370
Can't wait for them to be bailed out with bong tax payer money, kek

>> No.15112385

>>15112374
okay

>> No.15112391

>>15112374
don't care, he's going to the moon, (you) are not

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Looks so weird here

>> No.15112399

>>15112396
How does the other SLS looks like here?

>> No.15112403
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>>15112378
Britain has so little interested in doing so you could use it to could use if for practical testing of vacuum-optimized engine bells. They were interested in "the first launch from British soil" for PR reasons, and even then they didn't care enough to try and get some of their regulatory gestapo out of the way. VO has a questionable launch model (with a now questionable rocket), is hemorrhaging money, doesn't have anything like a dedicated customer, and everyone knows all of this.

At this point the only thing keeping them from beating Astra as the first major newspace venture to go bankrupt is large, steady infusions of cash from the rest of the Virgin ecosystem.

>> No.15112406

>>15112391
Everyday Flybystronaut

>> No.15112407

The absolute state of western space industry right now if you subtract SpaceX

>> No.15112411

sooo.. Virgin Orbit is actually an american company?

>> No.15112414

spinlaunch centrifuge or big fucking linear accelerator?

>> No.15112416

>>15112414
Linear accelerator but neither on earth.

>> No.15112417

>>15112414
Linear accelerator if you want something resembling a sane launch profile. Giant mad science fidget spinner if you want to have GSE that's not built for a single launch inclination.

>> No.15112442

>>15112403
I think Astra has a few months of runway. Meanwhile, Branson could write off VO as a lost cause tomorrow.

>> No.15112450

all gimmick launch companies need to die.

>> No.15112454

>>15112442
Astra could jettison everyone and everything related to Rocket 4 and stabilize as a satellite component manufacturer. At that point they'd just be Apollo Fusion with different branding and management but at least their revenue would match their expenses. VO doesn't have any options like that. If they can't convince people that LauncherOne works they don't have a company.

>> No.15112457
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15112457

>decide to fuck around with https://www.google.com/moon/
>see pic related
wtf? is it a bad photo, or ayys?

>> No.15112459

>>15112329
Their gross margin is positive, the problem are the fixed costs. I hope they get to make Electron profitable by increasing the launch cadence and with the reuse program.

But desu, they should focus on using Electron as a marketing opportunity and as a way to sell space hardware/software. If they can break even the program is worth it. The real money should come from Neutron, Photon(s) and space systems.

>> No.15112463

>>15112454
If they do that, management & their SPAC partners are going to get sued to oblivion by investors. Due to all the money they received, just producing spacecraft engines as a minor player is not an option, they need to keep trying to be a launch provider and either make it (unlikely) or go bankrupt trying.

>> No.15112472

>>15112450
booster landing used to be a gimmick

>> No.15112476

>>15112472
No it was a hard challenge with great, obvious payoff.
"Uuh strap it to a plane I guess" and "swing it really hard lol" are just stupid gimmicks.

>> No.15112480

>come back to see how starship is going
>its just sitting there
>they stacked it again
holy fuck just hit the launch button already

>> No.15112489
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>>15112399
Long March 9 design here is probably outdated by now.

>> No.15112492

>>15112489
Saturn V cargo is such a cool sight to see

>> No.15112493

>>15112480
People more reasonable than felon chud are handling it now.

>> No.15112496

>>15112396
Tumblrface Starship. That shit is all out of whack. Next time he should just trace an image.

>> No.15112498
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>> No.15112499

>>15112489
I honestly don’t know who thought the old CZ-9 concept was good

>> No.15112506

>>15112498
>windows
Delusional

>> No.15112543

>>15112498
Who dafuq rendered this? this looks like the CGI from a low budget anime

>> No.15112545

>>15112489
>>15112396
Is there a similar chart for Ariane rockets?

>> No.15112556

>>15112222
Yes

>> No.15112558
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>>15112545
Not really comprehensive but I did find this. Ignore the baseduz, of course.

>> No.15112561

>>15112556
why are you so sure?

>> No.15112562

>>15112306
Thank you elon

>> No.15112576

>>15112396
lunar starship looks terrible :/

>> No.15112584

>>15112561
No over-design, no gimmicks—just reliable, regular launches.

>> No.15112594

>>15112584
kek

>> No.15112606

Will the ABL launch be streamed or is it just another gimmick?

>> No.15112611
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>>15112480
but does the anon understand what this means

>> No.15112619

>>15112611
raptors are some of the sexiest engines ever made ugh

>> No.15112621

>>15112606
No streams, streaming is a gimmick

>> No.15112624
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15112624

Just found out Atlas V and Vulcan are the same height. Neat

>> No.15112625

>>15112624
Vulcan was designed to use the preexisting Atlas V GSE with a minimum number of modifications. It's like how the Delta III was designed to be the same height as the Delta II.

>> No.15112627

>>15112624
No shit it’s just a frankenstein blend of an atlas and a delta

>> No.15112629

Wtf happened on the Virgin Orbit launch?

>> No.15112631

Weather is pretty bad at vandenberg; the Starlink launch got pushed back to 12:50 AM EST

>> No.15112634

>>15112229
they're going to go build one for the Kims and get assassinated by the Unification Church

>> No.15112635

>>15112472
Tory Bruno wanted you to think reusing the first stage was a gimmick because it highlighted how overpriced ULA rockets were.

>> No.15112637

>>15112629
Something fucked up badly with the second stage. It hard to tell exactly what because a lot of the telemetry in the stream was complete garbage and because launching in the middle of the night meant that we didn't have a clear view from the onboard cameras.

https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1612635496366366720

>> No.15112640

>>15112625
what a stupid requirement

>> No.15112642

>>15112640
It saves money and time

>> No.15112645
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>>15112642
Sure it does lmao

>> No.15112646

>>15112168
1. Why wouldn't there be a cop
2. If you were smart, there'd be one near you too

>> No.15112647

>Virgin Orbit stock at $1.93
It’s over
>RocketLab stock at $4.22
It’s semi-over
>Astra stock at $0.45
It’s over

>> No.15112648

>>15112646
I hate cops

>> No.15112650

>>15112647
Damn time to pick me up some Astra stock

>> No.15112660

I really want Starship to be successful but not monopolize the market at the same time.

>> No.15112661

Starlink launch pushed to tomorrow probably. Due to weather

>> No.15112664

>>15112661
30% favorable weather

>> No.15112667

I realised I'm a Musk contrarian.
I was really annoyed by him when people were treating him like the greatest genius on Earth and calling the "IRL Tony Stark" and generally fanboying over him.
Now I'm somewhat positive about him since so many people started hating him for the most bullshit reasons.

>> No.15112669

>>15112667
I’ve always liked him, although the Twitter stuff and it’s consequences were a mistake

>> No.15112670

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bpTtXr-uNM
T-20:00

>> No.15112681

Keen observers have found that all of Ship 24’s Raptors don’t have any “remove before flight” tags. SpaceX Nigga believes Ship 24 is done with static fires, although it will be destacked eventually

>> No.15112682

>>15112667
I've been musk stan for about as long as i've known of him, almost 10 years. you learn to take the based with the cringe

>> No.15112684

>>15112667
For how long have you guys been following Elon? Anybody here knows him since the Falcon 1 days? I think I first heard about him in 2015-16 with the first Falcon 9 landing attempts. Really thought there was some kind of race between SpaceX and Blue Origin at the time, just by the way the media portrayed them. But I've been following him and SpaceX religiously immediately after the Falcon Heavy maiden launch.

>> No.15112685
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>>15112543
NASA doled out some 2023 NIAC seed money for new tech.

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-selects-experimental-space-technology-concepts-for-initial-study

>> No.15112686

>>15112684
shut up newfag

>> No.15112687

>>15112669
Too early to tell if its a mistake. Everyone told him starting SpaceX was a mistake. Everyone told him starting Tesla was a mistake.

Give it time.

>> No.15112688

>>15112684
I first heard of SpaceX in 2014 when they first tried to land a Falcon 9 and failed. Despite being a huge space fan at the time, I didn’t really care all that much and I still shilled Atlas V for a while until 2016ish

>> No.15112689

>>15112684
Same. F9 landing attempts were what drew me in.FH was awesome sight to see. The most powerful rocket by a private company no less.

>> No.15112690

>>15112681
>although it will be destacked eventually
Gotta get those lifting hardpoints removed and tiled over.

>> No.15112691

>Ariane 5 reached 7100 m/s at core stage separation
What the fuck? It’s almost a SSTO

>> No.15112692

>>15112687
People who are dumber than you will always be eager to give their opinion as if they are not.

>> No.15112694

>>15112669
>the Twitter stuff and it’s consequences were a mistake

You probably think twitter is in dire straights too.

>> No.15112695

>>15112690
Yep. I do wonder why they don’t bother with a final static fire with Ship 24 anyways

>> No.15112697

>>15112695
Maybe they figured if they'd benefit from finding out what makes the ship explode in flight.

>> No.15112700

>>15112697
It makes me wonder if SpaceX would scrub a Starship launch if tiles come off during the final countdown for whatever reason

>> No.15112701

>>15112684
first heard of spacex when i was 14 and saw a cgi falcon heavy launch. thought it was more nasa vaporware. when dragon docked with ISS i started to pay a little more attention, but didnt yet understand the significance of commercial space. hell, i didnt even fully appreciate the first booster landing, didnt watch live. wasnt until 2016/2017 when I saw Elon's talk at IAC Guadalajara it kinda changed my life. I dont think I'd ever been more inspired. I followed SpaceX like a hawk ever since, the lead up and launch of Falcon Heavy, F9 block 5, Crew Dragon, the whole tank watching saga from inception till now

>> No.15112703

>>15112691
You forget about solid boosters.

>> No.15112704

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1612669769668517890

Oneweb livestream @ twitter.

T-2 mins

>> No.15112705

>>15112701
>IAC 2016 and 2017
Dude, same. The first time Mars became real for me, too

>> No.15112709
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15112709

GO

>> No.15112710

WE GAAAAAAN

>> No.15112712

It's over for Starlink

>> No.15112713

>it looks like a flying crown
poetic!

>> No.15112716

>>15112705
Kek remember the guy who awkwardly begged musk for a job during the q&a

>> No.15112717

>One americlap

It's over

>> No.15112718

>>15112716
they trimmed the Q&A off the original video. my fav was the mars poop toilet guy

>> No.15112719
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>> No.15112722

They really have Falcon 9 launches down to a science, and the commentary / visuals are insanely good. Just absolutely incredible footage almost every week.

>> No.15112723

Beautiful jellyfish this time.

>> No.15112725

>>15112719
TEA-TEBOLOX

>> No.15112726

I actually want to kill Nic Ansuini and kiss the Cosmic Perspective girl (and shake hands with the guy)

>> No.15112727

>>15112718
that q&a was pure agony to sit through in person

>> No.15112729

Haha how will we POOP on mars?? like shit haha! Will it just get everywhere? Poop everywhere haha just like burning man!

>> No.15112730

25 metal chair scoots to orbit

>> No.15112733

Elon can't keep getting away with it

>> No.15112737

hello /sfg/gots
looking for the 'THROOOSTER' soijak meme. It's a rare one from this general, last saw it dec 2021 but I failed to download it at the time. if anyone has it would make me very happy

>> No.15112738

is Kuiper using a larger fairing onits Atlas V launches?

>> No.15112739

>>15112718
>No essays, just questions please

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>>15112719
landing

enjoy your space tunes

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>>15112737

>> No.15112745

>>15112650
>buy astra stock after a RUD
>sell right before next launch
Foolproof

>> No.15112749

>>15112738
They’re both 4.6 meters in diameter on the inside

>> No.15112751

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1612673407396487169
Launch

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1612674029344768000
Staging

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1612675317386326018
RTLS

>> No.15112755

Falcon 9 gives me so much hope for Starship. Seeing SpaceX make such a well oiled machine from F9 is inspiring in a way

>> No.15112757

>>15112755
Yup

>> No.15112760

>>15112744
lol I made that one. What a day that was when Russia almost destroyed the iss, good times, miss you rogozin.

>> No.15112764

>>15112684
I think the first time I became aware of Musk was around the time of the submarine bullshit.
For SpaceX, I'm not really sure when I started following them, it kind of just happened eventually. I started following rocket launches during 2021 as I was waiting for the JWST launch.

>> No.15112765

>>15112684
F9 first test launch for NASA

>> No.15112768

>>15112760
I wonder what /sfg/‘s live reaction to Soyuz MS-10 (the one that failed on ascent) would’ve been

>> No.15112774
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https://boards.greenhouse.io/spacex/jobs/6519859002?gh_jid=6519859002

Starlink factory opening near Austin area soon.

Video related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nbEJPDIoZw

>> No.15112777

>>15112768
/sfg/ existed then, it was sort of just a “ummm woah oh shit. The LES works at least”
It was way more subdued than a modern /sfg/ would react honestly

>> No.15112779

>>15112777
makes sense since this general gets increasingly more deranged with time

>> No.15112780

>>15112777
sfg didnt exist in october 2018. there might have been a launch thread or reaction to the accident, but proto sfg didnt start to form until a month later

>> No.15112786

Some early JWST TRAPPIST data dropped. Very preliminary results but TRAPPIST-1g was found to have no signs of a Neptune-like hydrogen atmosphere.
This is good for the prospects of life, but note that there is also a chance is just has not atmosphere at all and is an airless ball

>https://earthsky.org/space/trappist-1-exoplanets-webb-telescope/

>> No.15112788

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7tuHA5VhN2M
Record your answers here so we can see who was a faggot in twelve months.

>> No.15112792

>>15112768
idk, perhaps with some convoluted ideas on how dragon could've performed better, had it been ready to fly back then, mentioning several times that it's a superior system by always having its LAS attached all the way to orbit. cue some mocking to pockocmoc and anons getting frustrated on how fucking old and stagnant their industry really is.
had it happened recently, the entire thread would' be filled with "it's over" posts lol

>> No.15112794

>>15112780
Are you sure? I remember being on a 4chan thread when it launched. And it was 100% a space related thread so it almost certainly had to be a /sci/ launch thread maybe? Idk everything has started to blur over the years and I honestly can’t remember when I exactly started following /sfg/ religiously. It was after the name “sfg” was set in stone and stuff had started to happen at boca chica, but before starhopper’s flight. It was also after piss airlocks had already become a meme.

>> No.15112799

Why does SpaceX want to unstack Ship 24/B7 before the 33 engine static fire? Don’t you want to see how the Starship on top is affected by/affects the full engine complement?

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15112801

>>15112794
>>/sci/thread/S10063117
only 1 thread in the archive that I found for that event. there were plenty of disperate spaceflight threads over the years, but there was no real general formed until tankwatching started up. used to have shitloads of launch threads too for pretty much every launch, but spacex ruined that lol. now only reserved for special launches

>> No.15112806

>>15112794
Yes, /sfg/ historian documented the origins. Dont have his copypasta on hand, but it didnt have "sfg" in the name until Jan/Feb 2019. before that it was briefly "sg"

>> No.15112814

>>15112786
Well this was a bunch of nothing but it was good to get some information about why it took so long. I doubt the innermost planet has an atmosphere at all and don't have high hopes for the next two, but I still hope for something on the outer ones.

>> No.15112821

>>15112814
It seems likely that TRAPPIST-1 doesn’t have habitable planets, sadly.

>> No.15112832

>>15112801
>>15112806
Scares me how fucked my memory is these days ugh. Im glad historyanon did that deep dive and cataloged a bunch of stuff for book keeping purposes before all the archives shat the bed. Crazy that MS-10 was pre-/sfg/, it feels like it JUST happened

>> No.15112834

>>15112821
I will still hold my breath, this is not much results.
Even if they are uninhabitable, they could be interesting for the sake of studying the development of terrestrial planets and the modeling around it.

>> No.15112837

>>15112832
2020-2021 didn't happen

>> No.15112838

>>15112832
I toured SpaceX HQ in December 2016. I can’t believe it’s been over 6 years since then

>> No.15112841

>>15112801
SpaceX made what was once considered rare launches into routine. So its both a good and a bad thing.

They took away the mystique factor of the rare launches and made it look easy. They also forced others to adapt to new launch industry such that we now have many competitions.

>> No.15112847

>>15112837
For real though

>> No.15112857

>>15112841
I see taking the mystique away as a good thing. I wish so much I lived in a sci-fi world were spaceflight is completely casual
In the other hand, I fear the trivialization will make people stop caring about it, like what happened with Apollo.

>> No.15112871

>>15112857
Nahhh that’s like saying the normalization of the ICE would make people stop caring about automobiles or aeroplanes. If and when rockets can be utilized more and more for industry and military purposes, they will only see more and more demand. How fast this will all take is a HUGE guess. Maybe musk will really have do this as a one-man-army funding a mars colony completely with starlink revenue within our life times. On the other hand the next 50 years could see a race between china and the US trying to have an up-mass war with the space force putting their own personnel in LEO and the Moon for territory. Who knows. It will happen though. Earth has a LOT of resources, but none of them are infinite. And technology is only advancing faster and faster. Our technology in the next 200 years might look unrecognizable to us

>> No.15112878

>>15112198
KRAKEN

>> No.15112886

>>15112857
Apollo stopped because its cost wasn't sustainable. The whole point of SpaceX is to make rockets cheap and to make space a profitable market, it can't disappear anymore

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15112905

>>15112744
>freebird.mp3

>> No.15112909

>>15112799
Probably don't want to destroy 24 too in case everything goes wrong.

>> No.15112917

>>15112886
Apollo was cheaper than the space shuttle

>> No.15112944

>>15112788
Did mine. Next Spaceflight was very useful.

>> No.15112947
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova-C#IM-1_mission
>Nova-C was selected in May 2019 for NASA's Commercial Lunar Payload Services as one of the first three landers of this program
>DOGE-1 and EagleCAM will be deployed as secondary payloads. The DOGE-1 payload has a mass of 40 kg and was paid for with Dogecoin.

>> No.15112958

>>15112944
no cheating anon

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Imagine

>> No.15112966
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>>15112960

>> No.15112988
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*GOES TO SPACE*

>> No.15112998

>>15112988
What a dumbass

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15113014

>>15112960
Isn't one of them a Falcon heavy? Big if true

>> No.15113015

>>15113014
2 F9 (Oneweb/Starlink)
1 FH
1 Starship
2 Dragons

>> No.15113025

>>15112998
IN SPACE NO ANON CAN HEAR YOU BULLY ANON!

>> No.15113047

Are there any good RS1 pics for the next thread?

>> No.15113078
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15113078

Good morning /sfg/!

>> No.15113089

>>15112396
benis rogget :DDD

>> No.15113092

>>15111978
Orbital rockets only. Carnival rides need not apply.

>> No.15113094

>>15112645
It saves ULA money and time, not the customer.

>> No.15113095
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15113095

This hurts /sfg/

>> No.15113099

>>15113094
If ULA wanted to save money and time they'd learn how to propulsively land a booster

>> No.15113100

>>15113095
impossible

>> No.15113108

>>15112744
kek

>> No.15113109

>>15113095
Just to put this into perspective for the fuel

1 kg of uranium 235 costs ~$15million.
100 kg costs $1.5 billion.

You need ~44kg to generate 10KWe on KRUSTY and it would weigh ~1500 kg.

>> No.15113110

>>15112755
it just werks

>> No.15113134

>>15112905
fuck why has no one made that yet

>> No.15113139

>>15113099
Hell no. Their entire business is based around building tanks and selling launches. Why do you think their entire "reuse" concept is based around recovering the one part they don't make in house?

>> No.15113143

>>15113139
Because they're coping. SMART ultimately wont save them money, nor time

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>>15113139
Vulcan was designed at a time when propulsive landing was deemed impossible/impractical. ULA was under the impression it would take 10 reflights to break even. In reality they were quite wrong, as a F9 now only requires 2-3 flights before it turns s profit. SMART is far more complex of a solution, adds failure points, and does not scale. Now we're at a point where the efficacy of propulsive landing is without question, and SMART reuse is the unproven method. Based on the fun RL has had trying to reuse Electron, the challenge would be greater with Vulcan.

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>>15113161
based on this they expect to save 35% of the cost of the booster, but of course that doesnt factor in time to manufacture cores. and saves 0% of the second stage (but depots bro!). spacex current bottleneck with F9 is second stages. I shutter to think how much Centaur V costs in manufacture time. I dont think it is possible for Vulcan to reach a high cadence or lower costs without propulsive landing. Therefore I predict that ULA will give up on SMART and attempt booster droneship landings with Vulcan before 2030

>> No.15113178

>>15112019
>>15112030
Sweet dreams YF-23

Fuck lobbiers this is why America xan't have nice things

>> No.15113186

>>15112645
>headpats
Looks more like he's grabbing her by the hair, getting ready to slam her face into the desk.

>> No.15113189

>>15113186
>you knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in

>> No.15113194

>>15111626
They could still do that though, the development of KSP2 can't be going that well if they can't even get the new features out after delaying the game.

>> No.15113203

>>15113194
Well it was restarted
I just hope base ksp 2 has all the features of the latest version of ksp and looks good on top of this

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15113209

>>15112806
>pre-Dec 2018
Various unconnected launch threads
>17 Dec 2018
https://boards.fireden.net/sci/thread/10223076
Initial catalyst, quadruple launch thread, first boca chica pics
>21 Dec 2018
https://boards.fireden.net/sci/thread/10223076/#10230858
First suggestion of "spaceflight general"
>21 Dec 2018
https://boards.fireden.net/sci/thread/10231408
SpaceX GPS launch thread, staged from previous launch thread
>22 Dec 2018
https://boards.fireden.net/sci/thread/10231408/#10235763
First collective OC
>23 Dec 2018
https://boards.fireden.net/sci/thread/10237471
First Starship/BFR discussion thread, starting relatively unbroken thread chain
>18 Feb 2019
https://boards.fireden.net/sci/thread/10399256
First thread with "spaceflight general" in subject line

>19 Apr 2019
https://boards.fireden.net/sci/thread/10562453/#10562640
First suggestion to use /sfg/ in general name instead of /sg/
>19 Apr 2019
https://boards.fireden.net/sci/thread/10571535
First thread using /sfg/ in subject line
>1 Aug 2019
https://boards.fireden.net/sci/thread/10853630/#10854978
First post of SLS is real copypasta on /sfg/ (or /sci/ in general)
>03 May 2020
https://boards.fireden.net/sci/thread/11632487/#11632831
Creation of 4ASS
>09 Jun 2020
https://boards.fireden.net/sci/thread/11779749/#11780018
First appearance of PROOONT-anon
>10 Aug 2020
https://boards.fireden.net/sci/thread/11993520/#11994869
First Krystal post
>07 Dec 2020
https://boards.fireden.net/sci/thread/12425748/#12430004
First appearance of the Zubrin sniffer

>> No.15113211

>>15113209
sfg is little baby when there are still very active old-school aerospace forums from the late 90s/early 2000s

>> No.15113213

>>15113211
yeah but /sfg/ has no boomers

>> No.15113216
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>>15113213
if you were born in the 20th century you are a boomer

>> No.15113221

>>15113216
thank the god i don't believe that i was born in 01

>> No.15113224
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>>15113213
I am a boomer in sovl

>> No.15113227

>>15113209
Fuck I forgot all about Zubrin sniffer. And I wonder what happened to the Zubrin mention count.

>> No.15113226

>>15113211
I checked the unmanned spaceflight forum some anon linked here the other day.
So many people in the thread about the future Uranus orbiter wondering if they will be alive by the time it arrives there as if any other option was impossible. I find their lack of faith disturbing.

>> No.15113230
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>>15113221
> thinks his curse is a blessing

>> No.15113235

>>15113227
hard to count when the archives got all fucked up

>> No.15113241

>>15113211
I don't know if it's still the case but back in the day I used to find those places insufferable because of the prevailing opinions that private spaceflight won't amount to anything and that we should only focus on unmanned probes because manned planetary exploration is a waste of time and money. Though I'm sure by now those old boomer mindsets are in the minority

>> No.15113242

>>15113241
yeah, the shuttle era fucked up boomer brains for good

>> No.15113244

Would private moon landers open the possibility of long lasting manned lunar missions? Just a somewhat cheap lander filled with supplies for the astronauts. (I'm imagining this as a no-Starship scenario)

>> No.15113247

>>15113244
That’s the ultimate goal, yes

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>>15113244
How long lasting though? getting through the lunar night is tricky

>> No.15113255

>>15113254
Could a nuclear reactor be enough to heat a permanent station?

>> No.15113263
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>>15113255
That has its own issues which is why the poles are attractive for their near permanent sunlight

>> No.15113267

>>15113263
Well, I guess that with the tilt in relation to the Sun there are some parts that would get extended sunlight through the year, I have no idea how much.

>> No.15113295
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are you guys gonna meet me on the south side of rio grande? it's only 2 miles from the launch site from mexico. they dont abide by the american exclusion zone, normally gotta be 5 miles away if on the american side

>> No.15113317

>>15112684
I think I started following him in like 2013-2014, kind of inspired me to switch from physics to engineering, but its been a while so kind of fuzzy on that

>> No.15113326

>>15112684
I do remember hearing about one of the failed Falcon 1 launches on the news. Didn't really start following him until F9 started to get underway.

>> No.15113333

>>15113326
This is odd, before a few years ago the only newspace company I saw on the news in my country was one who did high altitude flights back in the 2000's, I don't even know which one it was.

>> No.15113335

I wonder, how different versions of starship would look like, if they were designed for
'special cases'. Once they would have a stable working base starship that would make sense to make some different subtypes, just like ironman had different suits (please don't onions-jack me for marvel reference).

For now there is lunar starship, and maybe some special mars lingering in the distance, but how many different uses it could sustain, and what modifications you would make?

Or maybe making different starships variants would be useless if you could construct or ship, purpose build ships on orbit?

>> No.15113338
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>>15113335
I hope a deep space one ends the age of gravity assists.

>> No.15113352
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>>15112684
I remember reading about Musk on /b/ of all places, around 2011/2. People were mocking him for his pursuit of vertical landing of orbital boosters, saying that if it was possible, NASA would've done it already. They were calling him a scam and a fraud back then lmao. Have followed SpaceX and Musk ever since. I watched all the attempts to land the booster live, and am not ashamed to admit that I shed some manly tears when it actually landed. It's been a wild ride.
>>15113209
Ngl seeing my shitposts documented gives me a surreal feeling. I was really frustrated that we had no place on 4chan to discuss SpaceX in detail pre-2018.

>> No.15113359

>>15113352
>seeing my shitposts documented gives me a surreal feeling
You can remember what you posted years ago?

>> No.15113360

>>15113359
Not all, but some.

>> No.15113361

>>15112321
Apollo was cheaper than Shuttle it never should've stopped

>> No.15113362

>>15113352
What even is the point of image limits?

>> No.15113364

>>15113362
Saving server space I guess?

>> No.15113366

>>15113359
i cant remember 99% of my posts but if you show me a link to one i can almost always confirm whether i authored it. weird

>> No.15113368

>>15113364
It gets all deleted in a few days anyway
Feels more like a relic of the 2000s

>> No.15113371
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>>15112744
related

>> No.15113372

>>15113366
I remember browsing some old forum archives and finding a post that I agreed with. It was mine.

>> No.15113375

>>15112832
>Scares me how fucked my memory is these days ugh.
I can't even remember if I joined here in 2021 or 2020

>> No.15113381

>>15113267
There is parts on the poles that get sunlight through the whole year with a handful of consecutive days at most interruptions.

>> No.15113382

>>15113372
something similar has happened to me too lol

>> No.15113406

So, Starship is stacked. What now?

>> No.15113408

>>15113406
Destack :)

>> No.15113409

>>15113406
lunch

>> No.15113418

>>15113295
no I don't want to get killed by the Cartels and I don't have a throwaway gun I'm willing to just chuck in the river to get back home

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>>15113409

>> No.15113431
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Booster 7 has been through hell goddamn
>Propellant tube crunched
>Spin prime explosion
>Doing 1 trillion billion million static fires
She deserves a spot in /sfg/ Valhalla

>> No.15113435

>>15113418
lived in az my whole life and cartels are some of the nicest people you'll ever meet. those students had it coming though

>> No.15113461

>>15113431
How about a steel upper stage? Carbon is expensive especially for an expendable vehicle?

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>> No.15113468

>>15113461
Ariane 6 doesn't have enough perfomance otherwise.
A64 can only do 21 tons to LEO

>> No.15113479

>>15113468
Kind of sad that 20ish tons to LEO has been considered the pinnacle of rocketry since the 70’s
>Proton
>Saturn IB
>Titan IV
>Atlas V 551
>Delta IVH
>Titan IV
>Long March 5
>Ariane 5
>Shuttle

>> No.15113484
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>Falcon 9 Block 5 (expended) and Ariane 5 have the same LEO payload
What the fuck?

>> No.15113491

>>15113484
what surprises you?

>> No.15113492

>>15113484
What were you expecting?

>> No.15113503
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>>15113431
It's like the first rocket to be reused before it was even launched.

>> No.15113504

>>15113484
Hydrogen fueled rockets (especially upper stages) are optimized for higher orbits. That is why Ariane 5 mostly does comsats to geostationary orbits.
Proton's hypergolic upper stages get around that using lengthy five burn, five orbit trajectories (and a drop tank), making maximum use the Oberth effect to squeeze enough performance out of the energy-poor fuel.

>> No.15113508 [DELETED] 

>>15113406
Back to angar

>> No.15113510
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>>15113406
touch booby

>> No.15113513

>>15113479
It's all you need except for Starshippy things or giant singlemanifest space station / spooksat launches.

>> No.15113524

>>15113484
one simple stick vs amalgation of random ass SRBs
lmao

>> No.15113525

>>15113510
them are naughty thoughts, anon

>> No.15113527

>>15113524
F9 is so fucking based. It has legs where the lesser rockets have SRBs

>> No.15113528

>>15113484
Ariane 5 is not optimised for LEO, used to be some proposals for a heavier Aestus upper stage for LEO use but ME was prefered, then it was cancelled.
Ariane 64 particularly in the block 2 version should be able to reach ~25 tons however

>> No.15113540

>>15113479
20 t class has been the norm in large part because Shuttle and Proton set it
That and GTO sat never grew above 6-7 tons

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>>15113335
>please don't onions-jack me for marvel reference
I absolutely will
you had no reason to bring this up
you could have liked it to various types of trucks or freight wagons

>> No.15113559
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15113559

Just a few more weeks bros

>> No.15113564

>>15112088
ICBMs are best when they are solid fuel. No time to dick around with fueling when you need to launch on warning and ampoule types have too many disadvantages..

>> No.15113568

Staging

>>15113565

>>15113565

>>15113565

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>>15113524
Proton is so fucking weird
>Lol let’s put a bunch of fuel tanks around out oxidizer tank!!!!

>> No.15113586

>>15112684
I followed (and still do) a very well known spaceflight blog in spain that was posting about him in 2008, as far back as I can remember.

>> No.15113648

>>15112543
>this looks like the CGI from a low budget anime
Because it is lol