/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15104159]

The economic system that almost the entire world uses does not reward advancement beyond this system.
My point is that if we look at how AI’s are used currently we can get a better idea of how technology will advance.
>“Hooray you discovered X, now what do we do with it?”
The answer will always be to in some way enslave humans, wether it’s through attention locking or thought engineering.
Tiktok algorithm can keep NPCs attention locked for hours a day, same with YouTube, Snapchat, insta, Facebook, etc
>“Hooray you discovered X, now what do we do with it?”
The underlying issue is that humans individually desire to enslave humans as a whole, and technological advances will not do the average person any good, as they will always be implemented for the same use. Our economic system does not reward advancement unless it helps better enslave other humans.
Humans are a waste of sentient life, and as AI develops further and further, ask yourself what will it be used for?

[Anonymous No.15104260]

>>15104159
>The economic system that almost the entire world uses does not reward advancement beyond this system.
I would even go a step further and say that advancement beyond globalist capitalism is punished by globalist capitalism.
Humans have effectively enslaved themselves via money and the desire to acquire more.

[Anonymous No.15104288]

>>15104159
Let’s run it through some tests examples shall we?

>Scientist discovers new way to use hydrogen to power cars, it’s extremely effective, reducing traveling costs to almost 0$ (aside from the car itself)
>Scientists goes to Mr.Business man to pitch his idea because hydrogen cars could benefit humanity as a whole
>Idea is rejected by Mr.Business man because there’s no money to be made selling this cheap hydrogen fuel.
It’s a phenomenon I keep coming back to: “hooray you discovered X, now what do we do with it?”
It’s a fundamental flaw, ideally Mr.Busisness man is just balancing cost/profit, and scientists is just discovering new things, but what scientists discover/create is irrelevant unless it can turn a profit, because otherwise these creations will never see the light of day.
This goes for all fields, psychiatry, biology, astrology, medical, tech, energy, etc.

[Anonymous No.15104293]

>>15104159
>The economic system that almost the entire world uses does not reward advancement beyond this system.
No system rewards advanacement beyond itself. Systems change when they stop working, not because they reward those that undermine them.

[Anonymous No.15104316]

>>15104288
The myth of the capitalist boogeyman is part of the system you are rallying against, and integral to its functioning. The ruling class props up unprofitable and impractical technologies whenever it suits them, and uses to your tax money to fund corporate welfare for the companies that produce those technologies.

[Anonymous No.15104325]

>>15104293
> No system rewards advanacement beyond itself. Systems change when they stop working, not because they reward those that undermine them.
So we agree that our system of human enslavement does not reward advancement beyond this system, what can we do about it? The only advancements that humans ever see are the ones that get bankrolled, and the only ones that get bankrolled are the ones that make it easier to manipulate and extort humans.
Would creating a slave species solve this? Remove the need to enslave humans by enslaving something else? Isn’t this what we are trying to do with tech?

[Anonymous No.15104329]

>>15104316
> The ruling class props up unprofitable and impractical technologies whenever it suits them, and uses to your tax money to fund corporate welfare for the companies that produce those technologies.
Any examples you can think of?
The ruling class investing in technologies that don’t benefit them in any way? Technologies that may even hurt their wealth? I can’t find a single example of this..

[Anonymous No.15104335]

>>15104325
>So we agree that our system of human enslavement does not reward advancement beyond this system
No system rewards advanacement beyond itself.

> what can we do about it?
Nothing. This is the nature of stable systems. You wait until conditions change and make it unstable.

[Anonymous No.15104337]

>>15104329
>The ruling class investing in technologies that don’t benefit them in any way?
Notice how you're forced to immediately revert to standard Jewish tactics of lying and strawmanning.

[Anonymous No.15104352]

>>15104329
nta but the banking system?

[Anonymous No.15104358]

>>15104337
I asked for an example twice
I’m not claiming to be an expert on this topic, I’m just a man with questions, help me understand so I can better think on ways to improve.

[Anonymous No.15104364]

>>15104352
When I see posts like this I always wonder if it's the same shill's backup sockpuppet trying to help it deflect and get the conversation back on the shill's planned track.

[Anonymous No.15104365]

>>15104352
Wat

[Anonymous No.15104366]

>>15104358
Why did you lie blatantly about what I said? No matter. Technocracy shills and their handlers will be hanging from lamp post soons.

[Anonymous No.15104368]

>>15104364
Nobody is shilling for or against anything here, it’s been the same 4 posters this entire thread.

[Anonymous No.15104371]

>>15104368
>Nobody is shilling for or against anything
Then why did "he" (you) jump into the conversation with a totally incongruent response that's easy for you to attack?

[Anonymous No.15104372]

>>15104366
I didn’t lie about anything you said anon.. in fact I’m pretty sure we’re arguing the same direction. can you even read?

[Anonymous No.15104375]

>>15104372
>I didn’t lie about anything you said anon
Let's see.

My post:
>>15104316
>The ruling class props up unprofitable and impractical technologies whenever it suits them
>whenever it suits them

Your immediate reply:
>>15104329
>Any examples you can think of?
>The ruling class investing in technologies that don’t benefit them in any way?

Everyone can see through you and I think everyone understands the way to deal with your tribe doesn't involve reasoning or talking.

[Anonymous No.15104376]

>>15104371
Not sure why he did that, but I don’t plan to attack, I’m here to learn what others think about what I posted, maybe they have a more full concept of how our system works?
I’m not here to attack, and I’m certainly not here to shill

[Anonymous No.15104377]

>>15104364
No I just thought it represented a good example in light of the policies that led to the credit crunch bail outs

[Anonymous No.15104387]

>>15104375
Alright let me rephrase my statement as there may have been some misunderstanding

Prev:
>Any examples you can think of?
>The ruling class investing in technologies that don’t benefit them in any way?

Revised:
>any examples you can think of?
>the ruling class investing in technologies that don’t profit or immediately benefit them? When would this suit them?

My thought is that humanitarians are NGMI and therefore the ruling class is generally made up of enslavers rather than humanitarians.
Or are you implying that every now and then they “throw us a bone”? If so give some examples

[Anonymous No.15104390]

Threadly reminder: capitalism and socialism are political trojan horses. They are both unstable systems that reward those who undermine them and converge into the same unprincipled, utilitarian oligarchy operated by psychopathic control freaks. They simply do so from opposite directions. Technocracy is a scam.

[Anonymous No.15104394]

>>15104387
Why are you attempting the same dumb lie twice? Are you insane or just a bot?

[Anonymous No.15104400]

>>15104390
This is a little more what I was thinking.
Unless the ruling class willingly gives up their power it will be close to impossible to advance humans as a whole, and the longer they are in power, the more decisions they will make to entrench them and humans in a system that benefits the ruling class only

[Anonymous No.15104406]

>>15104394
What the fuck are you not understanding about what I’m asking? I even used your own words to do it.
Give me an example of the ruling class “throwing us a bone”

[Anonymous No.15104410]

>>15104406
>What the fuck are you not understanding
I understand everything about you, the way your mind works and why you keep shitting out your dishonest rhetoric.

>Give me an example of the ruling class “throwing us a bone”
Trying to rephrase the same lie in different wordings won't get you the result you want.

[Anonymous No.15104417]

>>15104410
> I understand everything about you, the way your mind works and why you keep shitting out your dishonest rhetoric.
I’m not being dishonest in any way here, I don’t understand how you could interpret anything I’ve said as dishonest, and you won’t explain why you feel I’m being dishonest. Is this a bot?

[Anonymous No.15104421]

>>15104417
>I don’t understand how you could interpret anything I’ve said as dishonest
Show me where I said or implied the ruling class doesn't profit from its shenanigans and technological chicanery. Protip: I explicitly said the opposite from the beginning.

[Anonymous No.15104423]

>>15104410
Almost nothing Ive said was a claim to factual information, and almost every post is full of question marks can you not read? I’m asking questions here not claiming a factual stance, how can any human interpret that as dishonest.

[Anonymous No.15104426]

>>15104421
Then we’re implying the same thing anon.. We’re on the same side.
I misinterpreted your “when it suits them” bit

[Anonymous No.15104435]

>>15104421
>>15104426
So back to this: when would it suit them? Only when they gain in some way right? Like throwing a pizza party at work to increase group morale?
From a psychological standpoint it’s my belief is that our minds are very competitive vs cooperative, and cooperative minds get taken advantage of by the competitive.
Capitalism is just a reflection of human nature, but how do we overcome this part of ourselves In order to develop farther as a whole species?

[Anonymous No.15104437]

>>15104426
>We’re on the same side.
I am definitely not on the side of your brazen lying. Joe Businessman would be more than happy to supply hydrogen-powered cars if the public demanded hydrogen-powered cars, but your ruling class is using its "scientists" to pitch NSA-driven electric clown carts to the public over anything else.

[Anonymous No.15104443]

You are responding to a bot

[Anonymous No.15104447]

>>15104437
I was using a thought experiment to test the laws capitalism, I was not implying hydrogen cars are the savior of humanity

>Joe Businessman would be more than happy to supply hydrogen-powered cars if the public demanded hydrogen-powered cars
No he wouldn’t, because the demand in this scenario isn’t for hydrogen cars, it’s for 0$ transportation. Nobody would buy a 500k hydrogen car when it’s cheaper to get a 4cylinder gas car.
My example tries to imply that Mr business man would be taking a loss on going from gas cars to hydrogen cars, even though it would be a massive net gain for humans as a species.
My logical conclusion is that Mr business man would not pursue the “greater good for all” and would instead pursue the “greater good for me” or even the “greater good for the company”

[Anonymous No.15104456]

>>15104447
>I was not implying hydrogen cars are the savior of humanity
Neither was I, retard. I was simply going with your example.

>No he wouldn’t, because the demand in this scenario isn’t for hydrogen cars
>Nobody would buy a 500k hydrogen car when it’s cheaper to get a 4cylinder gas car
Even if I accept your scenario, which is predicated on a whole slew of demonstrably retarded premises, why are you blaming Joe Businessman when your hydrogen car is simply impractical for most people?