/sfg/ - Space Flight General

[Anonymous No.15096994]

Three Falcon 9s Edition
Previous: >>15094170

Transporter-6 launch in 30 minutes
https://youtu.be/lSRXacd8wU8

[Anonymous No.15097003]

SpaceX is aiming for 100 launches this year

[Anonymous No.15097006]

>>15096994
Realistically how long until we have nuclear spacecraft?

I know the US is planning tests in 2026 but I don’t know anything about that whole contract process or who is building the engines for it

[Anonymous No.15097007]

I can’t wait for Beal to revolutionize spaceflight!

[Anonymous No.15097011]

>>15097003
they will manage 200 inshallah

[Anonymous No.15097012]

When will China develop a 1st stage reusable rocket? I think 2025-2028, maybe. II wonder if their private companies or CNSA will develop it first

[Anonymous No.15097020]

>>15097012
i dont think cnsa even has a reusable rocket in their plans

[Anonymous No.15097024]

>Launcher Orbiter SN1 - Mission Control Center Live Stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5b9pKNR7b8&ab_channel=Launcher

[Anonymous No.15097037]

>>15096994
Wow so all they have to do is take three Falcon 9s and put them together and that becomes the Heavy?

[Anonymous No.15097038]

>>15097020
I think that they have 3 plans, most concrete being developing the long march 8 and long march 6 to be reusable.

[Anonymous No.15097055]

>>15097012
https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1608739871618924545

Deep Blue Aerospace aims for an orbital launch in 2024...

They already did 1 km hops this year with a test vehicle

[Anonymous No.15097059]

>>15096994
The narrator was a jeet all along?

[Anonymous No.15097068]

>>15097055
>orbital launch in 2024
lol

[Anonymous No.15097071]

>>15097068
nevermind ignore this, i keep thinking its 2020

[Anonymous No.15097076]

>>15097071
It isn't?

[Anonymous No.15097079]

DECOLLAGE

[Anonymous No.15097081]

Three more months until Hakuto attemps to land, will it stick it or no

[Anonymous No.15097082]

>>15097055
I doubt China will tolerate the amount of failures SpaceX went through perfecting the F9

[Anonymous No.15097087]

>>15097082
lol, china drops their spent rocket stages on populated villages

[Anonymous No.15097089]

AHHHH IM LOOOOOOAAAAADIINGGGG

[Anonymous No.15097093]

>>15097082
They can just not show the experimental launches.

[Anonymous No.15097100]

> January 3rd 2023
> spaceX already humiliating the competition for the whole year

[Anonymous No.15097101]

RTLS has the best views

[Anonymous No.15097102]

they cant keep getting away with this what the fucking shit they have to fuck it up eventually

[Anonymous No.15097104]

No one else is even trying

[Anonymous No.15097110]

> spaceX now has 2 Booster with 15 landings since they started landing them 8 years ago
Jesus Christ how is there be nobody else to compete yet ?

[Anonymous No.15097113]

>>15097076
Welcome to the fourth year of 2020, everyone

[Anonymous No.15097115]

>>15097113
>fourth year

[Anonymous No.15097119]

>>15097037
Yes. It is that easy in rocketry

[Anonymous No.15097122]

>>15097110
Imagine starship.

[Anonymous No.15097124]

>>15097115
2020
2021
2022
2023
counting is hard I know

[Anonymous No.15097129]

>>15097071
It’s ok dude it feels like it. Every rocket supposed to fly in 2020 still hasn’t flown yet

[Anonymous No.15097130]

>>15097115
>2020
>2021: 2020 part II
>2022: 2020 lives
>2023: the final 2020

[Anonymous No.15097131]

>>15097130
>the final 2020
way too optimistic my dude

[Anonymous No.15097142]

>>15097068
There's also I-space aiming for an orbital launchnext year of their partially reusable Hyperbola-2 but they aren't doing great right now with financial trouble and 3 failed launches in a row

[Anonymous No.15097161]

>>15097081
Considering the current track record for Moon landers I'm not going to get too hyped

[Anonymous No.15097168]

>>15097089
How is that supposed to simulate 5000 tons?

[Anonymous No.15097169]

>>15097168
Look at what's under the OLM

[Anonymous No.15097176]

>>15097130
>>15097131
>2020 Electric Boogaloo
>2020 Plan 4 from Outer Space
>2020 Episode V: The Pandemic Strikes Back

[Anonymous No.15097182]

>>15097168
>>15097169
Still I don't think those crane weights are enough. I remember reading that one SPMT module can carry 400 tons.

[Anonymous No.15097185]

>>15097161
How many attempts have failed? There was the Israeli one, and an Indian one as well

[Anonymous No.15097196]

https://twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1610300253533528065?s=46&t=W-YxyqKfROeR4q1M0oNepQ

[Anonymous No.15097202]

>>15097196
Spaceflight is healing

[Anonymous No.15097205]

>>15097196
We can finally say the D word now

[Anonymous No.15097208]

>>15097185
Those make up 20% of all Moon landing attempts since the 1976

[Anonymous No.15097211]

>>15096994
How did that cat get on the launchpad ? His handler should be more careful. My grandma wandered onto a launchpad once by mistake and the rocket burned all her hair off before she realised she wasn't at the bingo hall.

[Anonymous No.15097214]

>>15097196
>Katie Britt, his former chief of staff, won the election to succeed him
Was she indoctrinated in the ways of the old space?

[Anonymous No.15097221]

>>15097214
Probably

[Anonymous No.15097222]

>>15097196
RICHARD SHELBY ORBITAL DEPOT AND CONVENIENCE STORE

[Anonymous No.15097225]

>>15097182
Oh I see now. It interfaces with two launch clamps so should only be around 500 tons.

[Anonymous No.15097230]

>>15097089
>>15097225
What’s kind of interesting is that SpaceX may have never done this test if they took the “full send” approach, but it would be more dangerous to have a fully fueled starship stack on the pad with a risk of collapsing

[Anonymous No.15097237]

oh nonononono Shelbybros

[Anonymous No.15097239]

>Single-handedly destroys RocketLab’s entire business model in a single launch
SpaceX…I kneel

[Anonymous No.15097242]

>>15097003
>52 weeks in a year
>2 SS launches per week
>104 launches per year
math checks out

[Anonymous No.15097244]

>>15097230
I don't think there really is a risk of collapse.
I wager they care about how the alignment is affected with that much hanging off it.

[Anonymous No.15097246]

>>15097113
unironically feels like this

[Anonymous No.15097249]

>>15097196
Rest in piss

[Anonymous No.15097251]

>3rd January
>USA has already deployed over 100 satellites to orbit
How can the rest of the world even compete?

[Anonymous No.15097255]

>>15097196
And there was much rejoicing.
Now what corrupt fucking asshole will replace him?

[Anonymous No.15097257]

>>15097251
SpaceX =/= USA

[Anonymous No.15097260]

>>15097257
cope

[Anonymous No.15097263]

>>15097260
But it's true

[Anonymous No.15097271]

Elon Musk: Threat or menace?

[Anonymous No.15097276]

>>15097263
Sure, in your head.

[Anonymous No.15097285]

What do you think of the new spanish astronaut?

[Anonymous No.15097291]

>>15097285
ugly goblina face

[Anonymous No.15097292]

>>15097285

[Anonymous No.15097295]

>>15097291
There's only so much you can do with Castillan genes...

[Anonymous No.15097301]

24 year anniversary of the mars polar lander launch
Never forget

[Anonymous No.15097304]

>>15097301

[Anonymous No.15097305]

>>15097301
Why haven't they sent another polar lander since then?

[Anonymous No.15097307]

>>15097305
space is

[Anonymous No.15097310]

>>15097305
bad job/year metric for JPL

[Anonymous No.15097311]

>>15097305
They sent Phoenix, which pretty much did MPL’s job of confirming water ice exists at the surface

[Anonymous No.15097316]

>>15097301
>mars polar lander failed
>carried Deep Space 2 A and B along with it
>both of those independently failed too
cursed

[Anonymous No.15097318]

>>15097205
I'm gonna miss the [DELETED] jokes.

[Anonymous No.15097322]

>Payton Manning confirmed

[Anonymous No.15097325]

Neat stuff on here
>Albanian satellite
>Ukrainian satellite
>A handful of space tugs

[Anonymous No.15097327]

>>15097081
ye

[Anonymous No.15097334]

>>15097316
1998 was not a good year for Marsbros

[Anonymous No.15097337]

>>15097196
Ding dong the wicked bitch is dead

[Anonymous No.15097344]

>>15097003
wow.
Last year, SpaceX Falcon 9 surpassed the launch records of the Shuttle (135), Delta (171), Delta II, Titan III, Vostok, and Kosmos 2.
At that rate, this year it will overtake Tsyklon (236), Atlas (274), and Thor (274).

[Anonymous No.15097350]

LOL..... we're already a full week in the new year and SpaceX launched only 1 rocket

[Anonymous No.15097352]

If only... If only space....

[Anonymous No.15097354]

>>15097012
Single stage reusable rocket doesn't sound like an efficient way to deliver the payload to LEO.
I mean it's feasible, but it won't be as cost efficient as those big boys can do.
>>15097037
It's 27 engines you need to control, and that doesn't sound easy. Soviet N1 had 30 engines in its first stage, and it didn't go too well.
So spacex got some work done, unless the end result was supposed to be spontaneously combusting and exploding mess.
>>15097055
Not enough time, really.
>>15097196
Interesting, where should I look at to keep track of things as a newfag?
>>15097325
>/bant/ launch

[Anonymous No.15097355]

>>15097350
This year is only 70ish hours old

[Anonymous No.15097362]

>>15097285
Possibly the hottest astronaut so far. Prove me wrong.
Some of them are cuter than her, but not hotter - this is a FACT.

[Anonymous No.15097370]

>>15097354
Number of engines isn't that much of a problem. I remember Elon saying that Falcon Heavy is basically three Falcon 9s flying in a formation. Keeping that formation close is difficult.
Another problem that N1 had which Falcon 9 and Starship don't share is that those vehicles can actually be tested on the ground. Soviet Union had the "full send" and that resulted in one of the most powerful, non-nuclear explosions in history.

[Anonymous No.15097379]

What if we optimized ISS?

[Anonymous No.15097381]

>>15097379
It’s at least 10 years too late to even try. Unless you want to commit to some sort of ship of theseus and end up with a completely new station a decade from now

[Anonymous No.15097384]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1610303296773799938

[Anonymous No.15097386]

>>15097379
>Alt history with modern vehicles
This makes my dick hard hnggggg

[Anonymous No.15097387]

>>15097384

[Anonymous No.15097390]

>>15097352
It’s weird to think that the first Dragon capsule flew before the Space Shuttle retired. They always seem like two eras but not, COTS Demo 1 happened in 2010

[Anonymous No.15097391]

>>15097354
I just made a Twitter account and started following everyone who tweeted mostly space things and wasn’t an obvious troon. On launch days its almost all photography people posting the same angles of a rocket going up, or non-photographers retweeting the same, but the more journalistic types do post breaking news updates pretty reliably.

[Anonymous No.15097394]

>>15097390
Now we can only hope Starship manages to dock with ISS before its era ends.

[Anonymous No.15097400]

>>15097394
There’s info out there that says Starship is too heavy to dock with the ISS because of strain on it. No idea if it’s true or not

[Anonymous No.15097403]

>>15097384
S
>>15097387
topkek

[Anonymous No.15097407]

>>15097394
I’m not gonna lie… I simply cannot see how starship’s TPS will be able to hold together without shitting the bed with its current design

[Anonymous No.15097410]

>>15097394

[Anonymous No.15097411]

Ad Astra was a shit movie but the setting was cool
>Humanity colonized the Moon and Mars but not much else yet
>No tech for Expanse-style fusion drives; people use chemical/nuclear/electric propulsion

[Anonymous No.15097412]

Did spaceplanes as orbital bombing platforms ever make sense? I know there were a couple serious designs but air force autism ran deep back then (they designed a titan III you had to pilot manually because pilots liked it that way)

[Anonymous No.15097415]

>>15097412
Would've been sick to have in WW2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silbervogel

[Anonymous No.15097416]

>>15097400
Shuttle also was too heavy but they came up with ODS that acted as a dampener.

[Anonymous No.15097425]

>>15097379
The space station C proposal from the early 90s was rejected because there wasn’t enough for NASA’s international partners to do. Having a big monolithic can with a Japanese and European module hanging off of it wasn’t seen as good diplomatic optics (we wanted “partners” rather than lesser contributors) and there was never a clear idea of just what Russia was supposed to contribute to the design. On top of that, it needed a new super-heavy lifter that no one wanted to fund. So the “A” proposal got branded as “Space Station Alpha” which developed into the ISS we got.

[Anonymous No.15097430]

>>15097412
It didn’t ever make sense, but it made enough not-sense for the Soviets to be convinced that the Air Force was going to try and make it happen.

[Anonymous No.15097431]

>>15097295
>Castillian genes
>she's from Leon

ngmi

[Anonymous No.15097436]

>>15097362
Hotter you're right if talking only about proffesional astronaut (Yulia doesn't count ofc)

As cute if not cuter:
Mae Jemison
Eileen Collins
Wang Yaping (First flight)
never flew but selected:
Anthea Comellini
Nadezhda Kuzhelnaya

[Anonymous No.15097440]

>>15097436
>Wang Yaping (First flight)
Hahahah

[Anonymous No.15097446]

>>15097436
Russian women are either stunning or ugly no in between it seems

[Anonymous No.15097458]

>>15097384
Finally he says it

[Anonymous No.15097463]

>>15097400
in space there is no strain

[Anonymous No.15097472]

>>15097384
oh no, "there's no conspiracy"bros...

[Anonymous No.15097473]

just found out the tiangong core module has hall thrusters for station keeping, that's pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.15097474]

>>15097400
Just bring a dragon to fly between the starship and the ISS

[Anonymous No.15097478]

>>15097446
The difference is only about 20 years

[Anonymous No.15097484]

post something grim

[Anonymous No.15097487]

Xuntian will be the first spacecraft to coorbit and regularly dock and undock with a manned spacecraft? This concept has been around for so long.

[Anonymous No.15097488]

>>15097472
It ain't a conspiracy if it is known in public.

[Anonymous No.15097495]

>>15097484
What's it supposed to be transporting? And if you say 'people' I'm going to come to your house and break your favorite toy.

[Anonymous No.15097505]

>>15097495
4 people

[Anonymous No.15097506]

>>15097495
itself

[Anonymous No.15097520]

JUICE launch kit

https://esamultimedia.esa.int/docs/science/Juice-LaunchKit.pdf

[Anonymous No.15097538]

>>15097505
RIP anon's lego starship

[Anonymous No.15097555]

>There are anons in this thread RIGHT NOW who think starship will launch this year
>There are anons in this thread RIGHT NOW who think superheavy will do a full static fire this year

[Anonymous No.15097573]

>>15097196
logged into sfg when i saw the news

TIME TO CELEBRATE

[Anonymous No.15097596]

>>15097573
Launch a geostationary depot that is visible to his villa.

[Anonymous No.15097604]

>>15097573
You're not a cute asian woman and never will be one.

[Anonymous No.15097609]

>>15097604
im the resident kpop stan

[Anonymous No.15097629]

>>15097609
What does Stan mean?

[Anonymous No.15097633]

>>15097629
fan who is in too deep, comes from the eminem song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIqQ0PfuPo8

[Anonymous No.15097642]

Elon stans

[Anonymous No.15097658]

>>15097495
jokes on you its on its way to mars

[Anonymous No.15097691]

SLS does what SpaceX don’t
Fight the power

[Anonymous No.15097694]

>>15097691
I’ve never seen someone who is both completely bald but also has a combover kek

[Anonymous No.15097707]

>>15097629
it's where russia launches their rockets

[Anonymous No.15097712]

what are the advantages of metal bearings over ceramic bearings in reaction wheels?

[Anonymous No.15097717]

>>15097520
>Arrival at Jupiter
>July 2031
I'll be 30 when this happens.

[Anonymous No.15097718]

>>15097707
Kek

[Anonymous No.15097724]

>>15097520
>Juice will be the first spacecraft to:
>Perform two orbit insertions beyond Earth (Jupiter and Ganymede)
Wait a moment, didn't Dawn already do that with Ceres and Vesta?

[Anonymous No.15097728]

>>15097717
>tfw 30 now

[Anonymous No.15097734]

>>15097717
Bitch I’ll be 46

[Anonymous No.15097736]

>>15097717
same. We'll be 30 something for Dragonfly :(

[Anonymous No.15097737]

>>15097724
Yes but goalposts are always being moved

[Anonymous No.15097794]

>>15097384
>>15097387
Needs a recreation for old times sake

[Anonymous No.15097798]

>>15097394
Launch crew dragon from inside of starship when it's close enough to iss

[Anonymous No.15097806]

>>15097484
Fobos-Grunt.jpg

[Anonymous No.15097809]

>>15097484
apollo and the saturn v were both cancelled

[Anonymous No.15097812]

>South Korean moon orbiter

[Anonymous No.15097818]

>>15097410
>created by slave
Wtf who's enslaving people to make Starship renders?

[Anonymous No.15097824]

>>15097818
those emerald miners needed something to do :)

[Anonymous No.15097825]

>>15097818
Whom?

[Anonymous No.15097826]

>>15097484
New Shepard is going to return to flight before Virgin Galactic can make their next launch attempt

[Anonymous No.15097827]

>>15097717
hahaha what an old boomer
I'll be 29

[Anonymous No.15097834]

[Anonymous No.15097854]

>>15097520
>No, Juice will not be sterilised.
>crash onto Ganymede
Lmao, fucking based

[Anonymous No.15097857]

>>15097411
The setting was retarded. They could make an 80 day trip to Neptune and hadn't even colonized out to Saturn. At those kinds of speeds the solar system is equivalent to Earth in the age of sail. There was a space elevator on earth and a subway franchise on the fucking moon but the Martian colony felt like it had four people in it.

[Anonymous No.15097862]

>>15097384
S cancerous faggot

[Anonymous No.15097864]

>>15097857
difference is they can send eighty people on a ship during the age of sail, and the destination won't kill you without a spacesuit.

[Anonymous No.15097876]

>>15097854
I hope it finds some crack and enters the ocean

[Anonymous No.15097901]

You now remember that General Atomics, Lockheed and Blue Origin have been selected to build a nuclear spacecraft demonstrator to launch in 2026 under the DRACO program

[Anonymous No.15097906]

>>15097827
my man

[Anonymous No.15097909]

>>15097901
oh fucc im gonna nooooooook

[Anonymous No.15097913]

>>15097400
Would Starship just sitting there really be more strain than Nauka and the ISS engines fighting with each other?

[Anonymous No.15097916]

>>15097901
>launch in 2026
okay so it will launch in 2032

[Anonymous No.15097917]

>>15097071
I still feel like its 2022, weird to think we're in 2023 now.

[Anonymous No.15097921]

If we strapped a human to one of those fancy star sail ships (1 sq km of alum foil pushed by the rays of the sun) could they survive the acceleration

[Anonymous No.15097923]

>>15097110
And remember, all the current gen boosters are Block 5, and they only started making those in 2018

[Anonymous No.15097925]

Walter Cunningham
Apollo 7 Lunar Module Pilot
March 16 1932—January 3, 2023
F

[Anonymous No.15097926]

Yes, easily. Manned starships need beamed power in the petawatts to have even a percent of a gee.

[Anonymous No.15097928]

>>15097925
This also marks the final astronaut who flew on Apollo 7. All those who launched on the Saturn IB on October 11, 1968 are now dead.

[Anonymous No.15097935]

we were robbed

[Anonymous No.15097939]

>>15097935
By shuttle and new glenn holding us back yes

[Anonymous No.15097942]

>>15097925
Buzz is next
None of them will live to see another Moon landing

[Anonymous No.15097952]

>>15097925
F

[Anonymous No.15097954]

>>15097942
What would it take to send a 1 way moon trip, and have them live to broadcast a message planetside

[Anonymous No.15097992]

>>15097954
Suicide and an agency willing to live with that

[Anonymous No.15098001]

>>15097826
virgin bros... it's over...

[Anonymous No.15098002]

>>15097992
Cody's lab wanted to do it

[Anonymous No.15098004]

>1 more month till maiden flight

[Anonymous No.15098023]

>>15097285
She looks part mestizo

[Anonymous No.15098024]

>mid-flight SRB ignition

[Anonymous No.15098027]

>>15098004
it's always a little irritating that the plane doesn't have any real means of propulsion, the Shuttle even has engines but can't use them

[Anonymous No.15098029]

>>15097407
99% of the tiles falling off starship during static fires aren't even from vibration nowadays, but from debris smashing into the heat shield. Shouldn't be as much of an issue when Starship is around 100m off the ground at launch.

[Anonymous No.15098031]

>>15098029
>but from debris smashing into the heat shield.
doubt

[Anonymous No.15098032]

>>15098027
>i can't fantasize about flying my hecking plane through the solar system because it doesn't have big engines like real plane is supposed to it's soo irritating amirite fellow spaceflight appreciators

[Anonymous No.15098034]

>>15098027
Buran could have had jet engines!

[Anonymous No.15098036]

>>15098024
I've seen a lot of weird Ariane 5 evolutions, but I don't think I've ever seen anything quite this bad.

Mid-flight SRB ignition is great. It's right up there with air starting your core stage.

[Anonymous No.15098037]

>>15098032
look mate the atmosphere is there, you need to use it

[Anonymous No.15098039]

>>15097717
I'll be 3

[Anonymous No.15098042]

>>15097629
Short for Stanley

[Anonymous No.15098044]

TPS posters are such low iq. It's literally bikeshedding there is no need to worry about it right now especially since firing the booster with a ship on top hasn't even been done yet.

[Anonymous No.15098047]

>>15098024
>Pp
haha

[Anonymous No.15098049]

>>15098031
Sorry doomer, but you've already been proven wrong by the magic african. \https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJV-dWMy9Vo&t=939s
I know you really want to doom about everything and turn /sfg/ into another version of the spacex reddit but that won't be happening today.

[Anonymous No.15098055]

>>15098044
They are just more people moving the goalpost for something to complain about and say SpaceX won't be able to solve/do. During the cryo test days in early 2020 they said SpaceX would never solve the cryo issues and that starship would fail. They said the same thing after the SN4 explosion. Before the SN8 flight they said it would explode on the pad. During the upper stage flight test program they said SpaceX would never achieve a soft landing. Etc etc.

[Anonymous No.15098058]

>>15098055
>SpaceX would never solve the cryo issues
There were cryo issues?

[Anonymous No.15098061]

>>15098058
hello newfriend

[Anonymous No.15098067]

>>15098058
oh man go look up the early starship prototypes, you missed SO much good content
do you know what a BLEVE is?

[Anonymous No.15098076]

>>15097484
the lost opportunity of having prime pictures of a comet hitting jupyter.

[Anonymous No.15098097]

>>15097864
The disparity between the evident industrial base/available tech and the extent of exploration was comical. The main character stole a ship that was crewed by I think four people, which could get to Neptune in a hilariously short time, and the research station he was going to was the furthest any human had ever gone despite being very easily accessible.

[Anonymous No.15098109]

>>15098076

[Anonymous No.15098116]

Apparently there's an engine out there that has stoichiometric combustion in a gas generator driving a turbine. Doesn't that make full flow stages combustion obsolete?

[Anonymous No.15098120]

>>15098058
So many newfags in nu-sfg

[Anonymous No.15098124]

>>15098116
ORSC makes full flow obsolete if you weren't looking for lower turbine temperatures.

[Anonymous No.15098139]

>>15098124
or FRSC for that matter. there is really no reason to do FFSC unless you want crazy chamber pressure AND reusability.

[Anonymous No.15098148]

>>15098124
filtered

[Anonymous No.15098156]

>>15097925
A toast. Astronauts will never be like the Apollo boys ever again.

[Anonymous No.15098159]

yeah but if there's a turbine that can withstand stoichiometric combustion that makes any type of staged combustion obsolete. Simply tap-off from the main chamber to power the turbine.

[Anonymous No.15098168]

>>15098159
>Simply tap-off from the main chamber to power the turbine
It's not a relevant cycle if you're throwing away turbine exhaust.

[Anonymous No.15098169]

>>15097901
>general delays, delaymart and delay origin
NET 2042

[Anonymous No.15098170]

>>15095832
>Reminder that when you look into it, abiogenesis is so laughably, absurdly unlikely that it's just straight up impossible
How many known habitable-zone exoplanets are we at already? Hundreds?

[Anonymous No.15098175]

>>15098148
cope

[Anonymous No.15098179]

>>15098168
Yeah but the turbine extracts almost all the energy from the flow, the pressure after the turbine in the gas is low

[Anonymous No.15098180]

>>15098179
filtered

[Anonymous No.15098187]

>>15096993
I doubt they would. If anything DV likes to avoid action and go for slow burn movies. Arrival is the best example but there’s also hardly any action in his Dune or Blade Runner 2049.

[Anonymous No.15098189]

>>15097935
>gaiz I finally managed to get into Kerbin orbit!

[Anonymous No.15098198]

are ramjet/scramjet sideboosters useful

[Anonymous No.15098201]

>>15098198
>are sideboosters useful
no

[Anonymous No.15098208]

reminder that single stage impulse turbines extract up to 90% of the energy in the flow

[Anonymous No.15098227]

>>15098208
cool

[Anonymous No.15098239]

>>15098208
What’s a real world example

[Anonymous No.15098242]

>>15098239
rocket engine turbines

[Anonymous No.15098249]

>>15098198
>>15098201
>>15098208
>>15098227
two-stroke combustion engines are still beter

[Anonymous No.15098260]

>>15098249
what Rocketlab should've done

[Anonymous No.15098275]

does anybody know where this image is from/what conference this was

[Anonymous No.15098277]

>>15098097
okay, I mean I didn't watch the movie. But the apollo astronauts got to the moon in three days, and there still isn't a moon base. Wiki says the transfer is 80 days, which by my calculations requires around a two-thousandth of a gee of constant acceleration during that time. This is beyond out current capability but it's not so hard to think of a world where that propulsion capability exists but there hasn't been much outer planet colonization, especially because that's basically the state our world is in with respect to the moon.

[Anonymous No.15098286]

>>15098097
Haha, so funny. It's like if humanity had the full capacity to make a super heavy lift rocket but instead it decided to not produce those and every time an orbiter went to another planet it had to rely on gravity assists that take a whole decade before arrival.

[Anonymous No.15098310]

>>15098277
>>15098286
The difference is, in Ad Astra, the infrastructure and ships are already there and in constant use. With the moon as heavily developed as it is in that movie, there's no way the rest of the solar system would be so deserted.

[Anonymous No.15098330]

>>15098156
love her armpits, it must be said

[Anonymous No.15098335]

>>15098310
don't they literally have a mars colony?

[Anonymous No.15098337]

>>15098275
yandex tells me it's from the 2022 von Braun symposium

[Anonymous No.15098352]

https://youtu.be/pRt3rpt-mOg
They killed him for what he believed

[Anonymous No.15098363]

Are there any ideas for exploiting the same mechanics as the "tick tack" ufo? Also, how the fuck do ayy craft work?

[Anonymous No.15098368]

>>15098363
>how the fuck do ayy craft work
they work by pilots misinterpreting what they see

[Anonymous No.15098369]

>>15098363
lockheed martin can build them at any time and btfo spacex hardcore

[Anonymous No.15098374]

>>15098170
>How many known habitable-zone exoplanets are we at already?
Consoom tidally locked dead rock, get excited for next tidally locked dead rock

[Anonymous No.15098379]

>>15098368
take your meds schizo

[Anonymous No.15098382]

>>15098374
Neck thyself.

[Anonymous No.15098385]

>>15098368
The government already proved theyre aliens

[Anonymous No.15098390]

>>15098374
tidally locked doesnt necessarily mean dead tho

[Anonymous No.15098393]

>>15098385
links?

[Anonymous No.15098398]

There's been a lot of land landings lately.

Something happened?

[Anonymous No.15098400]

>>15098390
No, being right next to shitty red dwarf flare stars does that

[Anonymous No.15098404]

>>15097411
My main gripe was the "space makes you go insane muh mental health" theme of the movie. Thats not how the human mind works, you don't just go insane

[Anonymous No.15098407]

>>15098398
SpaceX is just launching really light payloads and mogging Rocket Lab >>15097239

[Anonymous No.15098416]

>>15098374
We get a lot of those because they're easier to spot. 5000 exoplanets is nothing for the Milky Way. The search has barely started.

[Anonymous No.15098417]

>>15098363

Good ass UFO footage:

https://thedebrief.org/incursions-at-the-border-homeland-security-agents-tell-of-encounters-with-uap/

https://www.explorescu.org/post/2013-aguadilla-puerto-rico-uap-incident-report-a-detailed-analysis

USA technology that originated elsewhere:

It first appeared over Belgium in 1989. It is either the "Aurora" from Lockheed or "Black Manta" from Northrop.

https://www.military.com/video/aircraft/military-aircraft/tr-3b-aurora-anti-gravity-spacecrafts/2860314511001

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnlaNR0iTek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6ZBkTUr5Xc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTIzsMLRQjY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KHVJiUwoYI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkvzT2KsD_s

Whats just as interesting is how we might have acquired it. Maybe we built it ourselves. But i bet it is reverse engineering from alien wrecks or something very intriguing: the galactic trade route

https://astronomy.com/bonus/zeta

[Anonymous No.15098419]

>>15098385
Retards don't understand what the U in UFO means.

[Anonymous No.15098421]

>>15098417
Someone tried to patent the tech back in 2004 and i don't think it worked well for them...

[Anonymous No.15098425]

>>15098407
Anyone got the original "who do you think owns the press" tweet?

[Anonymous No.15098428]

>>15098404
being isolated with very few other people for months and months might make you a bit off the norm tho

[Anonymous No.15098435]

>>15098428
barely. majority of healthy people could be completely isolated for multiple years and not "go insane"

[Anonymous No.15098437]

>>15098421
But there are plenty of other ways we could explore the stars too. My best guess is that alien crafts work like a magnetic sail.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_sail

[Anonymous No.15098438]

>>15098428
I've been isolated for years without any other human contact. It's fine.

[Anonymous No.15098446]

>>15098437
Assuming that the galactic trade route doesn't exist, there are still plenty of ways we can travel the stars without help from ayy lmao

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_propulsion_engine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicon_double-layer_thruster

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetoplasmadynamic_thruster

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulsed_inductive_thruster

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrodeless_plasma_thruster

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_Specific_Impulse_Magnetoplasma_Rocket

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_thruster

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_sail

[Anonymous No.15098454]

explore the stars with THIS

[Anonymous No.15098455]

back to /x/ UFO schizos

[Anonymous No.15098460]

>>15098455
Not a schizo. I don't believe in inner earth or telepathy or plasma alien BS. Actually refute the evidence I posted before sending me away.

[Anonymous No.15098459]

>>15098454
You're posting this so much anon, is this the only plug that can satisfy your ass at this point?

[Anonymous No.15098463]

>>15098459
you're just jealous

[Anonymous No.15098464]

>>15098454
Someone had a little too much fun on Kerbal space program

[Anonymous No.15098467]

>>15098460
No, I'm fucking tired of the same UFO bullshit of always.

[Anonymous No.15098469]

is there any, literally any reason not to use beamed propulsion on the outward leg of an interstellar journey

[Anonymous No.15098470]

>>15098454
Why are there 3 types of boosters there?

[Anonymous No.15098471]

>>15098464
>>15098463
jealous of the monster of a pc you have apparently

[Anonymous No.15098472]

>>15098454
Based. People shit on it for being unfeasible because of current laws but who gives a fuck. Shit on the laws instead. We could have conquered the entire solar system out to the oort cloud by now

[Anonymous No.15098473]

>>15098467
Then you are ignorant. Nothing that I posted is schizo in any way. All of it has scientific backing if you just look at what I posted. Honestly go fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.15098476]

WHEN WILL STARSHIP LAUNCH HOLY SHIT IT HAS BEEN 3 YEARS

[Anonymous No.15098479]

>>15098476
I know it’s grim and annoying at this point
I think soon (trademark) it will actually static fire and launch though, and in hindsight it will still seem pretty fast

[Anonymous No.15098480]

>>15098476
2 weeks

[Anonymous No.15098481]

>>15098455
When the Earthling says something so primitive you gotta hit them with that xeno stare

[Anonymous No.15098482]

>>15098473
fuck you schizo
stop polluting the general with this ufo shit

[Anonymous No.15098483]

>>15098476
NET March

[Anonymous No.15098488]

>>15098483
*2022

[Anonymous No.15098490]

>>15098481
Is the lightbulb helmet on the bottom right Zuckerberg?

[Anonymous No.15098495]

>>15098476
sory

[Anonymous No.15098496]

>>15098476
Q3 2021

[Anonymous No.15098497]

Could Shuttle-era NASA be convinced to do picrel?

[Anonymous No.15098498]

>>15098490
Yes it is, he has adapted to our atmosphere since then

[Anonymous No.15098500]

>>15098482
Actually, I was just responding to another anon who fucking asked. You are literally gatekeeping on 4chan. I posted spacecraft made by the US govt manufactured by American companies. I also posted UAP footage that is verified by the Department of Homeland Security. Nothing I posted is /x/ material it has entered the realm of science whether you want it to or not

[Anonymous No.15098506]

>>15098500
>You are literally gatekeeping on 4chan
as if this isn't happening constantly here

[Anonymous No.15098508]

Did /sci/ had threads before /sfg/ for stuff like New Horizons arriving on Pluto or when Cassini imaged the plumes on Enceladus?

[Anonymous No.15098514]

>>15098500
>Nothing I posted is /x/ material
The iPhone killed off the UFO delusion just like it did Bigfoot. If you want to peddle this stuff you need to go to /x/ where retro shit like this has its fans or you need to crawl into an alien time machine and beam yourself back to the Geocities age.

[Anonymous No.15098517]

it's so weird to think that the gateway ppe is just an ssl satellite bus

[Anonymous No.15098520]

>>15098514
>The iPhone killed off the UFO delusion just like it did Bigfoot.

So even though UAPs are completely confirmed by the US govt. you still don't believe in them?? What the fuck are you even on about?

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/17/1099410910/ufo-hearing-congress-military-intelligence

https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Prelimary-Assessment-UAP-20210625.pdf

https://www.livescience.com/ufo-report-human-biological-injuries

[Anonymous No.15098526]

haumea is martin marietta tech from the 1970s

[Anonymous No.15098528]

Back on topic, there's a LOT of Falcon 9 launches coming up

[Anonymous No.15098530]

>>15098528
does china announce their launches?

[Anonymous No.15098533]

>>15097812
Why is it black and white, in 2023?

[Anonymous No.15098534]

>>15098530
yea and they always look cool asf

[Anonymous No.15098536]

>>15098528
>Nine Falcon 9 launches in a day
Oldspace BTFO

[Anonymous No.15098537]

>>15098498
he looks like a goofy lovable guy here. just an absolute goofball. a silly type

[Anonymous No.15098539]

>>15097834
>is being
>is being
what

[Anonymous No.15098541]

>>15098536
>1 falcon 81 launch
ftfy

[Anonymous No.15098542]

>>15098537
bro wtf he looks like a egg with a face

[Anonymous No.15098544]

>>15098539
its a trend of these kind of postironic memes of purposefull misspelling and bad grammar

[Anonymous No.15098546]

>>15098542
no one in this picture looks human wtf

[Anonymous No.15098554]

>>15098476
Some days ago I think they were aiming for January, but because we are in January now, it must have slipped to February. And when it's February, they'll aim for March, and so on, and so forth.

[Anonymous No.15098570]

>>15098530
China posts NOTAMs somewhere and then chinawatchers scramble to try and match them to the drop zones for prior launches that they've got documentation for.

[Anonymous No.15098580]

>>15098570
>chinawatchers
Imagine if there were a Chinese version of sfg lol

[Anonymous No.15098588]

>>15098580
bing chilling

[Anonymous No.15098592]

Post "I just like it" rockets.

[Anonymous No.15098593]

What generals would be a spaceflight board?

[Anonymous No.15098598]

>>15098592
Fuckin fight me everyone, I'll take you all on

[Anonymous No.15098605]

>>15098593
>/sex/ space exploration corp general

[Anonymous No.15098623]

>>15098592

[Anonymous No.15098625]

>>15098592

[Anonymous No.15098627]

>>15098592
I have way too many. This is probably the most unpopular opinion, so it’s what i’m going with
DIVH-Orion was an excellent choice by the way

[Anonymous No.15098628]

>>15098598
Do your homework worthless kiddo

[Anonymous No.15098633]

>>15098598
If you ignore all the blackpils (big if), the shuttle we got was still fucking cool

[Anonymous No.15098634]

>>15098628
The real end of the bell curve is realizing that shuttle was a marvelous vehicle despite the bureaucratic kneecapping it suffered at every turn

[Anonymous No.15098636]

>>15098627
I've always preferred the Soyuz for the historical value and the aesthetics, but there's just something mesmerizing about that vivid color of a hydrazine engine going to work.

>>15098633
Flawed, certainly, but undeniably cool.

[Anonymous No.15098637]

>>15098627
Fuck it I’ll post the others I’m deep into the stolichnaya right now

[Anonymous No.15098638]

The Bantz from space journos keep coming

[Anonymous No.15098652]

>>15098637
nice

[Anonymous No.15098655]

>>15098652
I fucking hate europe but I secretly admire A5
I wish it flew like once a month though. Oh well it still has a pretty high flight rate when graded on a pre-Falcon 9 curve

[Anonymous No.15098657]

>>15098655
>but I secretly admire A5
>t. coping euro

[Anonymous No.15098660]

>>15098652
I always thought Ariane 5 had beautifully proportioned boosters. They had good length and girth compared to the main tank. And then they ruined it all with Ariane 6.

[Anonymous No.15098662]

>>15098660
>They had good length and girth
that's what she said

[Anonymous No.15098664]

>>15098655
They were planning to launch eight per year back in 1994. The highest they ever got in practice was seven. There was just never a Falcon 9 quantity of cargo bound for geostationary orbit.

One Ariane 5 every two months is still a lot of rocket rolling out to the pad.

[Anonymous No.15098668]

>>15098662
Ariane 6 has a pencil dick

[Anonymous No.15098674]

>>15098592
>3... 2... 1... liftoff...
>crickets

[Anonymous No.15098683]

>>15096994
>"Space is hard"

[Anonymous No.15098689]

[Anonymous No.15098691]

>>15098689
DAMN talk about a perfect length to girth ratio

[Anonymous No.15098733]

>>15098683
Reminder that NASA literally and unironically says this.

[Anonymous No.15098741]

>>15098691
see >>15098662

[Anonymous No.15098744]

>>15098407

[Anonymous No.15098746]

>>15098733
That's their excuse for everything
>"okay nasa, how did you guys come up with the decision of ending Cassini's life by making it fall into Saturn's atmosphere instead of extending the mission and sending it to, for instance, Uranus?"
>"space is hard"

[Anonymous No.15098748]

You get a few billions to request a probe mission as you desire, without space agency bullshit to dictate how it goes. What would you choose?

[Anonymous No.15098749]

>>15098748
Earth climate satellite

[Anonymous No.15098750]

So if I get it correctly
Prometheus is a direct continuation of the CNES-ASL-DLR-IHI ACE-42R methalox engine program which was started at a low level in 2007, then grew bigger around 2012-2015

IHI’s ( Ishikawajima-Harima Heavy Industries) contribution to it Is a direct continuation to their LE-8 methalox program in the 2000s (started in 2001) that test fired in 2009 and was part of the Galaxy-Express collaboration with Lockheed , and was parallel to their in-house methalox program circa 2010-2015

CNES and Safran’s participation in it probably has roots in the Russian-French Oural launcher that got funding in the mid 2000s and involved a (Snecma-Energomash-KBKhM project ) KVD-1 engine modified to run in methane (which test fired in 2005)

Not sure where the DLR part comes from, I could only find Preliminary methalox studies for their Ariane 5 fly back booster back in the early 2000s

[Anonymous No.15098751]

>>15098748
Full scale solar wind sail demonstration mission. If it works we can get probes to pluto in 6 months

[Anonymous No.15098753]

>>15098751
What a waste

[Anonymous No.15098754]

>>15098746
>why didn't you send it to Uranus
>because Cassini was almost completely out of maneuvering fuel, the scientific return would have been questionable at best, and it would have eaten up budget for decades before it even got to the "questionable return" part
>space is hard and you're not going to make it less hard by giving a geriatric probe at the end of its lifespan a completely new mission that it's not well equipped to carry out

[Anonymous No.15098755]

>>15098744

[Anonymous No.15098757]

>>15098755
I don’t even want to read half of that

[Anonymous No.15098758]

>>15098748
I hand the billions to musk personally and enjoy my swarm of space probes being sent to each and every dwarf planet and dwarf planet candidate a couple of years later. I'd like a pic of Eris and Sedna in my lifetime, thanks.

[Anonymous No.15098761]

>>15098751
Would you put instruments and choose a target if it happens to work?

[Anonymous No.15098764]

>>15098757
it's just /pol/ retardness anyway

[Anonymous No.15098765]

>>15098761
yeah i'd stream multiple probes in a line to do flybys of the solar gravitational lens focus and image exoplanets in unprecedented detail

[Anonymous No.15098766]

>>15098757
>>15098764

[Anonymous No.15098769]

>>15098758
>musk uses the money to buy tumblr
But for real, this is something I wish that happened. A swarm of low cost probes to flyby Kuiper belt objects would be amazing. Even if they took over a decade to arrive (like New Horizons), the sheer amount of data would compensate that.

[Anonymous No.15098770]

>>15098335
yes

[Anonymous No.15098775]

>>15098476
Within 4-8 weeks of the 33 engine static fire

[Anonymous No.15098776]

>>15098753
JPL is actively working against demonstration missions of innovative propulsion methods. These faggots are happy to do gravity assists forever because then we buy more Parker solar probe heat shields from them. The same solar wind sail tech can be used for interstellar travel as well

[Anonymous No.15098777]

>>15098528
Why do they have 17 falcon 9 launches planned for one month

[Anonymous No.15098782]

>>15098777
if spacex cant hit this cadence, they go bankrupt

[Anonymous No.15098793]

>>15098782
hey, I've heard that one before

[Anonymous No.15098794]

>>15098782
If SpaceX can't hit this cadence, they're delusional and need to go to the infirmary.

[Anonymous No.15098797]

>>15098782
There is no way to sugar coat this.

[Anonymous No.15098799]

>>15098782
14 members of my family died because of low launch cadence, fuck you

[Anonymous No.15098800]

>>15098799
Based off that, 168 of your family members will be dead by 2024 if they keep up this cadence and 14 of your family members die for every 17 of their launches.

[Anonymous No.15098802]

>>15098528
What is the link to this site?

[Anonymous No.15098815]

>>15098802
https://nextrocket.space/

[Anonymous No.15098820]

>>15098764
No no, he’s got a point.

[Anonymous No.15098825]

https://twitter.com/eager_space/status/1610435183538475009
gunnerson bros...

[Anonymous No.15098832]

>>15098825
>"eager beaver"
We should've known. It was foreshadowing.

[Anonymous No.15098837]

>>15096994
why is the cat hyperventilating?

[Anonymous No.15098839]

>>15098825
mein Gott...

[Anonymous No.15098840]

>>15098825
Its so over

[Anonymous No.15098843]

Christopher Combs DESTROYED by Thomas Mueller

[Anonymous No.15098846]

>>15098843
Like it or hate it, shuttle boomers just can’t be beat when it comes to design autism

[Anonymous No.15098847]

>>15098825
Looks like the cat-faced lyrians from /x/

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/80393/declassified-australian-ufo-report-involves-cat-faced-dwarf-aliens/index.html

[Anonymous No.15098849]

>>15098820
no he doesn't
not gonna explain because the jannies don't like off topic here

[Anonymous No.15098852]

I hope SpaceX makes EVA suits with cat ears

[Anonymous No.15098859]

>>15098852
>customized EVAs
fuck, I was born too early

[Anonymous No.15098863]

>>15098859
Nonsense we had that 50 years ago

[Anonymous No.15098864]

>>15098843
He's become a anti-Musk

In other news, MLS for SLS wants more money

>https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1610271770795294720

[Anonymous No.15098871]

>>15098843
>Merlin is SSME-Derived
Wow

[Anonymous No.15098872]

>>15098871
earlier in the /sfg/ thread we determined SSME was perfect. This revelation should not surprise anyone

[Anonymous No.15098874]

>>15098872
Performance-wise, SSME really is the best engine ever built. Hard to believe it was started in the 60’s

[Anonymous No.15098875]

>>15097196
as a result of this news, Elon for the first time blamed Shelby, explicitly stating he "did his best to hold back SpaceX"

[Anonymous No.15098876]

>>15098871
wasn't expecting avatar 2 memes here

[Anonymous No.15098878]

>>15098874
I woulda gone with RD-180, ISP is overrated

[Anonymous No.15098879]

>>15098876
If avatar was actually interesting as a series there would be way more memes here. It just so happens that it sucks ass. And other franchises such as alien and 2001 aren’t exactly memeable

[Anonymous No.15098883]

>>15098874
I’m assuming this is post ironic or satire or something

[Anonymous No.15098885]

>>15098871
Reading comprehension geezus


Might as well say Elon of Twitter fame helped designed Merlin engine.

Aka Merlin is twitter-derived.

[Anonymous No.15098886]

>>15098876
Avatar is the best hard sci-fi worth watching. You know it's true.

[Anonymous No.15098892]

>>15098879
why does it make so much money? I dont get it. i understand star wars and marvel and all the other garbage out there, but not avatar

[Anonymous No.15098894]

>>15098879
I exactly why anons would hate that movie, but man I had a mental orgasm with all the shots of the spacecrafts and the planet with the moons.

[Anonymous No.15098895]

>>15098876
Just saw Avatar 2 and it was great. That scene where one of Jake’s sons points to the night sky and says “my dad came from that star” felt really profound or something desu.
It’s probably not supposed to be that deep but imagine living around another star.

[Anonymous No.15098896]

>>15098894
The shot of the human ships decelerating into orbit around Pandora was kino as fuck

[Anonymous No.15098897]

>>15098886
It seems "Hard sci-fi" doens't mean shit nowadays. That movie is spiritual fantasy that happens to also have very high tech.

[Anonymous No.15098898]

>>15098885
I think he was just joking, anon
>>15098892
> why does it make so much money?
Not even /tv/ knows

[Anonymous No.15098899]

>>15098898
>I think he was just joking, anon
I wish

[Anonymous No.15098900]

>>15098896
All the doctors floating inside the spaceship was fucking kino. Also the giant spaceship landing with legs F9 style, even when that was supposed to be threatening lmao.

[Anonymous No.15098902]

>>15098892
>>15098898
It's absolute eye candy and the world bulding is very well crafted, despite the average tier story.

[Anonymous No.15098903]

>>15098897
There really isn’t such a thing as hard sci fi. Even something like the expanse is just a story with a space setting—that just so happens to have more-realistic-than-usual tech. True hard sci fi is something pretty boring like the mars project that’s just a bunch of numbers and hypotheticals

[Anonymous No.15098906]

https://afresearchlab.com/technology/wartech/
>WARTECH brings together warfighters, technologists, planners, and acquisition personnel to collectively develop operational concepts motivated by future force design and enabled by high-payoff science and technology (S&T)
>Rocket Cargo: Determine the viability and utility of using large commercial rockets for Department of Defense global logistics.
>Resolute Sentry: Real-time multi-domain battlespace awareness in highly contested environments.
>Area Effects Demo: Survivable hypersonic systems that can deliver individual effects over large areas.
Impossible, can't happen IT'S NOT FUCKING POSSIBLE IT CAN'T HAPPEN

[Anonymous No.15098908]

>>15098903
>>15098897
The Expanse is so infuriating. They had a cool setting but “ruined” it with FTL

[Anonymous No.15098910]

>>15098903
I think The Martian is a good one.
>lNB4 "muh wind too fast"

[Anonymous No.15098914]

>>15098892
James Cameron is a money laundering scheme

[Anonymous No.15098915]

>>15098908
They ruined it by having a melodramatic plot and gay characters while its plot was sped to the end. If scientific accuracy was king people would just watch documentaries.

[Anonymous No.15098916]

>>15098910
>>15098897
Real life space missions are kind of boring, even one’s that go wrong. You can’t make a Columbia or Challenger or Soyuz 1 movie, at least not a traditional film. And Apollo 11 or Dragon Demo-2 or something like Starship SN8 are all cool to space fans, but not easy to package into a movie
>Apollo 11
Was boring in that Ryan Gosling movie.

[Anonymous No.15098917]

>>15098916
>Was boring in that Ryan Gosling movie.
Kek everyone will hate you for this but you’re right

[Anonymous No.15098918]

>>15098915
oh my god the characters are such massive fags

[Anonymous No.15098919]

I said most anons would hate Avatar 2 because it is extremely misanthropic and also very anti-colonization.
I liked it but I do wish we had more hopeful space stories.

[Anonymous No.15098920]

>>15098915
People shouldn’t get too worried about being super hard Sci-fi. Fantasy movies and shows and books may be infinitely more interesting with better characters and plots than the most realistic Sci fi novel ever

[Anonymous No.15098923]

2001 in 4K is fucking insane. Absolutely insane. It looks like a modern movie
Somewhat related but I am very contrarian and I hope Rama is the most boring movie ever and normies hate it so I can enjoy it without any strings attached

[Anonymous No.15098925]

>>15098919
It’s definitely anti-colonialism but we are very lucky to not see blue hot aliens on Mars. If SpaceX was willing to genocide sapient organisms to make money, they would be assholes idgaf what /sfg/ says.

>>15098917
First Man was such a let down.

[Anonymous No.15098929]

>>15098916
I guess I just like boring movies. Or maybe I am just tired of the constant ADHD action of modern cinema. Sometimes I just like to chill

[Anonymous No.15098930]

no one does misanthropy quite like Baxter, read Titan if you've already read Blindsight and want something with worse writing but even less faith in humanity, and a shuttle derived mission to saturn for some reason.

[Anonymous No.15098931]

>>15098923
Boring is fine if the rest of the story is good. Dune and 2049 are boring but great.
But Jesus, nothing happens in Rama, except for the missile launches from Mercury at the end.

[Anonymous No.15098932]

>>15098916
When will they adapt Berger's book. It's got all the drama and 'underdog-going-against-the-big-leagues' story.

[Anonymous No.15098934]

>>15098878
>ISP is overrated
Smartest /sfg/ poster

[Anonymous No.15098936]

>>15098925
I would fuck the blue people. historians will call it rape but idgaf what they say

[Anonymous No.15098939]

>>15098931
That's fine, just give me a solid hour of exploring the alien artifact, learning more about it as they go along.

[Anonymous No.15098940]

>>15098934
He’s right
>>15098936
It’s called cultural assimilation, just forcefully is all

[Anonymous No.15098941]

>>15098930
Half of the Xeelee Sequence is
>Humans exterminate aliens who did no wrong
>Xeelee step in
>Humans wage total war on the Xeelee
>Xeelee leave to avoid collateral damage to other species
>Humans act like their hot shit
>Xeelee BTFO humanity
This happens twice in the series.

[Anonymous No.15098942]

>>15098923
>I hope Rama is the most boring movie ever and normies hate it so I can enjoy it without any strings attached
Fuck yes please

[Anonymous No.15098943]

>>15098931
I couldn’t finish Rama ugh. My attention span has been ruined by 25 years of video games and youtube

[Anonymous No.15098944]

They made rondezvou with rama movie??
Holy shit? Libetarian bros are winning?

[Anonymous No.15098945]

Rama + Denis Vellinevue + Ryan Gosling

[Anonymous No.15098952]

>>15098916
Real space exploration is a sophisticated taste.
Watching a timelapse of raw Cassini footage would be unpalatable to the average viewer, but there is an amazing beauty there.
I love the Apollo missions so much, even if they are just rock collecting.

[Anonymous No.15098955]

>>15098906
More and more realistic as time goes by

[Anonymous No.15098956]

>>15098944
It’s in the works. It’s still in that “I wouldn’t be surprised if we randomly hear it got canceled” phase right now.

[Anonymous No.15098961]

>>15098939
now I want Denis Villeneuve to direct At the Mountains of Madness, with most of the movie being foreboding shots of empty Antarctic wasteland and the archaeology expedition, and exploration of the cyclopean city. Something where even the big crazy reveals are toned down compared to the original story

[Anonymous No.15098967]

Ok but really, how hard would it be to make an actually-interesting hard Sci fi series? Like it can’t be inherently boring, right?

You’re telling me a noir crime thriller set on mars is inherently boring? Or a dumb teen coming of age movie starring Seth Rogen and Jonah Hill but set on a Ganymede comedy?

The issue is hard Sci fi media seem to focus more on the setting and the tech instead of the actual story

[Anonymous No.15098968]

>>15098956
apparently gordon freeman of all people was trying to make a Rama movie happen 10 years ago

[Anonymous No.15098971]

>>15098967
Sci fi is kinda gay, truth be told

[Anonymous No.15098972]

>>15098956
> “I wouldn’t be surprised if we randomly hear it got canceled”
Rip Metal Gear Solid movie

[Anonymous No.15098973]

>>15098967
>actually-interesting
What does this means to you?

[Anonymous No.15098976]

>>15097093
It's not just that, it's the culture. They're all terrified of losing face to their superiors. This is why only angloids and germoids can create truly breakthrough tech.

[Anonymous No.15098978]

>>15098971
lol
>>15098967
Noir is such a good genre in theory but in practice it always comes across as a parody of itself. Has anyone here read the maltese falcon? Shit sucked so hard, and everyone piped it up like it was some gold standard

[Anonymous No.15098984]

>>15097130
>2020 4ever
>2020: redux
>2626
>2020 - 2020 ends
>202∞
>2020 the nightmare ends
>202X - a new beginning

[Anonymous No.15098985]

>>15098967
>The issue is hard Sci fi media seem to focus more on the setting and the tech instead of the actual story
It's because space is only really good as the backdrop, not as the main focus. Sure you can have a noir crime thriller...IN SPACE. But you can't have the main story being about space itself.

[Anonymous No.15098987]

>>15098799
kek

[Anonymous No.15098988]

>>15098800
Bros, we could save this company if we keep it up

[Anonymous No.15098993]

>>15098967
Hard sci-fi automatically turns into some dry procedural about tech because you're imagining a bunch of machinery and trying to be as realistic as possible.
Imagine someone in the 1980s writing a hard sci-fi story about the internet in the 2020s, and just suppose he's technically accurate. He'd probably invent some absurd noir story as window dressing for all the networking technobullshit, and wouldn't include a single meme.

[Anonymous No.15098995]

>>15098993
They could a fairly accurate view of some aspects if they browsed usenet at the time. The hard thing to predict would be the normie internet since it took much longer to arise.

[Anonymous No.15099004]

>>15098967
Genre fiction is inherently escapist entertainment. If I want to learn about neutron stars I'll just do that, I don't need a story about little aliens that live on a neutron star to entertain me while I learn, like some child.
Literature is about human existence, and if the author has anything worthwhile to say his characters live in the same world that the author knows personally, not in some imagined other world, past or future.

[Anonymous No.15099007]

>>15098967
Many just use scifi as a crutch to tell their current life story, instead of actually telling a story about the scifi reality the people live in the series.

The difference is critical. One is just using scifi as decoration, other is using story as decoration.

[Anonymous No.15099013]

>>15098825
Least surprising reveal

[Anonymous No.15099016]

>>15098906
I was saying for the last four years that this was the best use case for E2E in the near future. It’s theoretically a logistical dream come true even if it won’t truly replace massive air lifting and shipping, just supplement them

[Anonymous No.15099019]

>>15098967
You could do it, but you'd have to know why you're writing sci-fi.
"Science Fiction" taking literally means a style of fiction in which scientific accuracy is treated with importance. You could argue that Moby Dick is science fiction because it contains a great deal of factually accurate information about whales and whaling. Likewise Nineteen Eighty-Four is a very accurate extrapolation of trends which the author personally observed in his time among the socialists.
But sci-fi tends to mean "I want to write a normal story but IN SPACE" or "I want to raise awareness of my favorite theoretical rocket engine" which isn't particularly interesting to an audience because it lacks authenticity.
The best sci-fi of this type is where they don't get bogged down in technical accuracy, but stick just to general outlines of what certain technology might mean for humanity. Neuromancer is like this. There's no factual accuracy whatsoever about the real internet, but it's still an engaging world to visit for a time.

[Anonymous No.15099025]

>>15098876
Is it even 3D this time?

[Anonymous No.15099033]

>>15099025
Of course.

[Anonymous No.15099038]

>>15099004
I wish I could strangle every art snob on this planet.

[Anonymous No.15099044]

>>15099038
Taking your science with fictional characters, or alternatively taking your literature with made up gizmos, is the mental equivalent of eating sugar-laden cereal for breakfast.

[Anonymous No.15099053]

>>15098335
A wimpy one

[Anonymous No.15099083]

>>15098476
I find solace in the fact that, despite the delays, Starship is still a lot more on time than SLS was. And it's not like the development is stagnating. Things are getting done, and not just at Boca Chica.

[Anonymous No.15099085]

sfg is d- ah wait

[Anonymous No.15099201]

>>15098748
Earth Climate Satellite Constellation but actually I'm just monitoring the location of the President of the United States of America at all times

[Anonymous No.15099263]

dead

[Anonymous No.15099282]

>>15098748
A Cassini-tier mission to the ice giants would be nice.

[Anonymous No.15099287]

>>15098895
>That scene where one of Jake’s sons points to the night sky and says “my dad came from that star” felt really profound or something desu.
See, even that annoys me because the navi should have a name for our Sun what with it being one of the brightest stars in their sky. Even the most primitive humans have names for bright stars.

[Anonymous No.15099299]

>>15099282
>arrive at Neptune
Wow! It's a fucking shithole!

[Anonymous No.15099303]

>>15099287
That's no accident. It's to make the viewer feel insignificant
>look how irrelevant the Sun is from Alpha Centauri
when actually it would be very visible.
This is part of the Great Reset.

[Anonymous No.15099340]

>>15098825
LMAO

[Anonymous No.15099349]

>>15099303
I’m pretty sure James Cameron is just an idiot. It’s a movie about how whaling is bad. Whaling. That thing that almost everyone stopped?
I mean if you give a fuck about whaling your movie needs to be in Japanese mate

[Anonymous No.15099355]

Why does Avatar trigger so many anons? I thought they were both kino

[Anonymous No.15099361]

OVER AN ENTIRE YEAR WITH ZERO STARSHIP LAUNCHES IN OVER A YEAR

FUCKING KILL YOURSELF ELONG YOU AUTISTIC CHILD

[Anonymous No.15099368]

>>15099361
someone needs to arrest him. maybe the department of justice and the FBI can

[Anonymous No.15099370]

>>15099355
> 1st movie : Finding a room temperature superconductor (that can't be synthesized because plot)
> 2nd movie : finding an immortality potion (that also can't be synthesized because plot)
What will be found next!? A berry that turns lead into iridium!? A lichen than powers a ftl drive!? Well whatever it is humans will have to do something very evil indeed to get hold of it!

[Anonymous No.15099371]

>>15099355
They think it is anti-human.

[Anonymous No.15099374]

>>15099370
>2nd movie : finding an immortality potion (that also can't be synthesized because plot)
but the immortality potion is barely an element of the plot. in fact it's only brought up in one scene and never again

[Anonymous No.15099378]

>>15099355
>>15099370
I liked the first movie.
I just heard the second one had garbage plot.

[Anonymous No.15099379]

>>15099378
Both had garbage plot.
>blue indians in space

[Anonymous No.15099380]

>>15099374
pls, its the reason RDA goes anywhere near the sea and we must have sea because Jim loves the sea

[Anonymous No.15099381]

>>15099370
I mean it's hardly hard science fiction. I just find it funny that /tv/ is fuming over it, when most discussed genres on that board are capeshit, anime and teenager dramas.

[Anonymous No.15099384]

>>15099370
Isn’t the main plot point that humans have to settle on pandora now because earth with be uninhabitable in a generation or so

[Anonymous No.15099386]

https://youtu.be/xox-yQADUTM
CSM is a spaceplane

[Anonymous No.15099390]

>>15099370
Oh man I hate humans
They're so evil in my two favorite movies!

[Anonymous No.15099392]

Bravo, James.

[Anonymous No.15099394]

>>15099392
Meds albeit

[Anonymous No.15099406]

>>15099394
fuck off with your pseudoscience

[Anonymous No.15099408]

>>15099380
that's an element of the plot but not what the story is focused on

[Anonymous No.15099427]

>>15098967
The vast majority of hard sf stories suck because hard sf writers always write backwards. They come up with a setting and try to force a story into it while other (better) writers come up with a story concept and then write a setting to justify it. The normal way can feel contrived but at least there's a good story in there. The hard sf way will have a lame story and a boring setting.

[Anonymous No.15099454]

>be me
>major fan of soft sci-fi
>no one tries to appeal to me
>just another day on /sfg/ - science fiction general
:(

[Anonymous No.15099503]

>>15098592
"Shuttle, but reasonable"

[Anonymous No.15099511]

[Anonymous No.15099520]

>>15099349
>your movie needs to be in Japanese mate
no you need to make Gacha game with sexy whales (children) to make them care about it

[Anonymous No.15099523]

>>15099520
It was an allegory of predatory corporations (Gacha) preying upon high paying customers with poor judgement (whales)

[Anonymous No.15099529]

>>15099349
Hey, us Norwegians love a bit of the old whale meat too.
Not that some gay movie by James Cameron, who hasn't made a decent movie since the early 90s is going to change that.

[Anonymous No.15099532]

>>15099368
I’m under WHAT?! WHAT ARE THE CHARGES? DELAYING A ROCKET? A SUCCULENT METAL ROCKET!

[Anonymous No.15099541]

>>15099355
It has a pretty simple story and relies on impressive visuals to really stand out. One could also argue that 4chan tends to crap on things that are popular or mainstream, too.
/sfg/ could definitely find an issue with its anti-imperialist themes, and also the whole humans being the bad guys thing. The movie isn’t anti-colonization per se, because Jake meeting the Na’vi was good, but it is pretty strongly against destroying other cultures and subjugating them.
Lastly, a lot of people probably got mad at the “AMERICA BAD” thing. A lot of anons probably see white villains and think there is some ulterior agenda/motive/whatever behind the movie

[Anonymous No.15099560]

Elong needs to be investigated for this.

[Anonymous No.15099569]

>>15097006
If you want anything good, you'll just have to hope Elon thinks they're cool.

The US would otherwise build exactly one, designed by politics, that would cost tens of thousands of times too much, take 40 years to complete, underperform, kill its crew, fail its mission and set space flight back a century.

[Anonymous No.15099573]

>>15099569
Regulation makes realistic private nuclear spacecraft impossible

[Anonymous No.15099577]

>>15099573
Just ignore regulations.

[Anonymous No.15099579]

>>15097115
Saturday is six days after Sunday. How many days are there in a week?

[Anonymous No.15099581]

>>15099579
14

[Anonymous No.15099582]

>>15099532
Ahhhh yes, I see you know your FAA licensing well

[Anonymous No.15099583]

>>15097130
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=izQB2-Kmiic

[Anonymous No.15099591]

>>15099541
I just find the combination of 'Earth is on the brink of collapse and must travel to the stars for resources !' and 'Earth can manufacture antimatter by the kiloton and lasers powerful enough to accelerate massive starships to a good fraction of lightspeed' an absurd contradiction. Civilizations on the brink of collapse spend their time plate spinning not setting out on exploration.

[Anonymous No.15099592]

>>15097196
You could catch AIDS just reading the comments

[Anonymous No.15099594]

>>15097362
Not just wrong, but really wrong

[Anonymous No.15099612]

>>15099503
Put two more boosters on the sides and a couple more Vucains under the tail and you’ve got “SLS, but reasonable.”

[Anonymous No.15099615]

>>15097487
For what purpose?

[Anonymous No.15099618]

>>15099615
Easy access and servicing

[Anonymous No.15099626]

>>15097436
>>15099594
Both wrong

[Anonymous No.15099630]

>>15099626

[Anonymous No.15099690]

>>15099384
That SHOULD be the main focus, but they just sorta offhandedly mention it.

[Anonymous No.15099703]

>>15099690
I just can’t believe they had the audacity to call it unobtainium and keep that in the film. That’s fucking middle school tier. That’s something you put in the first draft and make it a top priority to think of a better name before production starts

[Anonymous No.15099709]

Uhm, I don't think this isn't sustainable..

[Anonymous No.15099715]

>>15099703
>General Badguy
>Princess Loveinterest
>Pro Tagonist

[Anonymous No.15099716]

>>15096994
to avoid exposure to sci simply use the following link
4chan dot org/sci/catalog#s=sfg

[Anonymous No.15099721]

>>15099709
That’s just number, not mass. Electronics have gotten smaller so spacecrafts that used to weigh in at 2T are now the size of a bread box

[Anonymous No.15099728]

>>15098627
I like that trussed interstage design

[Anonymous No.15099739]

>>15098843
I love turbomachinery like you wouldn't believe

[Anonymous No.15099757]

>>15098874
the rocket engine thrust/mass and thrust/size ratios will affect rocket performance substantially

[Anonymous No.15099769]

>>15099370
synthesize metallic hydrogen if it's that easy in synthesis

[Anonymous No.15099798]

>>15099769
still cheaper than shipping it from 4 ly away

[Anonymous No.15099855]

>>15099299
what the fuck are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.15099859]

>>15099349
Nooo you don't get it sheeple, every little thing is actually part of the greater plan that the voices in my head told me.

[Anonymous No.15099878]

>>15099709
>SpaceX has sent more spacecraft to orbit than the entire world combined, throughout history

[Anonymous No.15099888]

>>15099371
It is extremely misanthropic.
>>15099541
I'm not gonna go with /pol/ derangement on this, but those movies are very ideologically irritating.
The only non-white human I noticed in the movie was a single asian woman whaling. At least other stories with this kind of plot have multiple races of humans being racist against aliens.
It also goes fucking all in with the noble savage myth and nature loving indian myth. At no point they show the navi being horrible to each other or having terrible customs. Humanity has not a single positive aspect also.
And it has that luddism that I hate. This movie is one of the most wonderful views of somewhat realistic advanced space flight from the latter years, but it was always presented as a thing to be despised. The Martian is the only recent movie that I can remember that embraces the "man must explore" thing.

[Anonymous No.15099896]

>>15099888
>I'm not gonna go with /pol/ derangement on this, but those movies are very ideologically irritating.
This. I had to walk out after half an hour despite the cgi which was great at times

[Anonymous No.15099898]

>>15099888
Seeing the fleet slow down to orbit Pandora was awe-inspiring, watching fish people swim around for 19 hours solid was not. I wonder if the rest of the star system has other planets humans could've tried settling, or mining or whatever. It's awfully hackneyed that humanity keeps fucking with peaceful ayys who always happen to be sitting on gold they're not using.

[Anonymous No.15099902]

now that I think of it Dune is kinda similar plot

[Anonymous No.15099916]

>>15098825
Dear God...Gunnerson was the Krystal poster all along.

[Anonymous No.15099924]

best spaceflight documentary?

[Anonymous No.15099930]

>>15099924
Watch the stuff by Homemade Documentaries on youtube.

[Anonymous No.15099935]

>>15099924
Apollo 11

[Anonymous No.15099939]

>>15099349
I can't believe this.
Without knowing a single thing about Avatar 2, I made an off hand comment why I won't bother to see or follow Avatar 2
Using the most absurdly outdated past issue that's pointless to worry about at this point I could think of the top of my head (whaling) to mock the lame Avatar 1 plot/analogy (colonization of Americas)
Now I'm discovering whaling is actually the plot of that movie
I feel vindicated for my deliberate ignorance. What a fucking hack.

[Anonymous No.15099945]

>>15099896
>>15099898
Don't agree really. I forgot to mention that I enjoyed the movie despite everything.

[Anonymous No.15099954]

>>15099898
I basedjacked so hard during the scene of the ships decelerating into orbit.
It would probably be 100% /sfg/ autism but I would love a story simply about colonizing an exoplanet. Not like Avatar but simply about man vs. Nature.

[Anonymous No.15099970]

Well, this was technical

[Anonymous No.15099971]

I remember some anon predicted in an older /sfg/ thread that as Avatar had shuttle-based spacecrafts, the sequel would have a SpaceX-based spacecrafts, and I guess it turned out too as that huge ship in the beginning had landing legs that kind reminded me of a F9 landing.

[Anonymous No.15099977]

/sfg/ is alive when talking about Avatar, lol. Love you guys.

[Anonymous No.15099979]

>>15099977
When is the next thing happening in space? I'm still waiting for those raw Io pics.

[Anonymous No.15099981]

>>15099939
The difference with Avatar 2 is that it's thankfully not about whaling the same Avatar 1 is about colonizing. It only becomes a plot element about half way through the movie and even then just as an ends to get the main bad guy out to the ocean where what's his name and his family are hiding. Though it does get very hacky with its depiction of the whalers as being comically evil caricatures but then again it is a dumb fairytale movie where the good guys are all good and the bad guys are all bad with no room for anything in between

[Anonymous No.15099985]

>>15099981
I liked Quaritch’s characterization in it though. He seems like he’ll have a change of heart especially after the thing with his son

[Anonymous No.15099996]

>>15099981
>comically evil caricatures
But we are comically evil caricatures.

[Anonymous No.15100001]

>>15099996
Humans have had some legitimately evil moments throughout history. Anyways, the next movie supposedly has evil Navi in it

[Anonymous No.15100005]

>>15100001
Responsible whaling does not really make us evil. Whales eat too much anyway.

[Anonymous No.15100006]

>>15100001
Majora’s Mask?

[Anonymous No.15100012]

>>15099954
>It would probably be 100% /sfg/ autism but I would love a story simply about colonizing an exoplanet
Do a very loose ripoff of Red/Blue/Green Mars, condense the phases of colonization to the basic 3-act structure of a movie. Humans arrive and struggle but by the end the new world is comfy, maybe weave a family plot into it where you follow multiple generations of a colonist clan or something. I'd watch it.

[Anonymous No.15100059]

>>15100012
How do you even start a story like that in a way that isn’t cringey? Like what is the opening scene?

[Anonymous No.15100069]

>>15100059
Depends on the reason for going. Is Earth dying? Is it just pure exploration? Mormons? You could start with a scene of how fucked up Earth is and the last ditch effort to build a fusion starship in orbit around the moon. Etc.

>>15100012
Imagine the disappointment if the colony arrives at the exoplanet and instead of Pandora it’s more like Mars. That would be interesting.

[Anonymous No.15100072]

>>15100069
What’s the time frame? Modern day? Near-future? Is it dystopian? You decide and I’ll throw out ideas

[Anonymous No.15100075]

>>15100072
I’m just spitballing in case we have any HBO screenwriters on /sfg/ lol.
There would have to at least be nuclear fusion for the torch drive, unless we take the Orion drive approach.

[Anonymous No.15100078]

>>15100069
>Earth dying?
cringe

[Anonymous No.15100087]

>>15100069
>instead of Pandora it’s more like Mars. That would be interesting.
This, I want to see terraforming efforts and timeskips forwards through the various stages of turning a dead world lush. As seen from the perspective of one family through generations it could be an interesting story.
>>15100078
Yeah I prefer the idea of expanding to make the human footprint bigger, over "we need to escape Earth because we did bad there"

[Anonymous No.15100094]

>>15100075
Orion drive, it’s cooler

[Anonymous No.15100102]

/sfg/ - science fiction general

[Anonymous No.15100103]

HLS interior mock-ups fucking WHEN

[Anonymous No.15100106]

>>15100103
it'll be an empty room

[Anonymous No.15100107]

>>15100103
2 weeks ago

[Anonymous No.15100110]

>>15100102
again, there is nothing happening in space now

[Anonymous No.15100112]

>>15100106
This. There's no time to be pedantic considering the lunar landing is in 2024. they'll literally copy paste the dragon life support system 2 or 3 times and that's it

[Anonymous No.15100124]

>>15100112
Nope, 2024 is just a flyby. IIRC Artemis 3 scheduled for 2025 but it will delay for sure.

[Anonymous No.15100182]

Remember when we thought that SS orbital would beat SLS to launch first.

[Anonymous No.15100186]

Falcon Heavy is launching in 2 weeks

[Anonymous No.15100189]

>>15098625
wdym, everyone loves the sóyuz

[Anonymous No.15100194]

>>15100189
no need to word-filter-proof soyuz

[Anonymous No.15100195]

>>15100194
baseduz sounds better

[Anonymous No.15100196]

>>15100189
You mean the Baseduz

[Anonymous No.15100202]

>>15098825
For fuck's sake i tought N-Eager, being a space boomer would be a little bit less degenerate.

[Anonymous No.15100244]

>>15100202
I would imagine space boomers are some of the most degenerate posters out there, it's like mark rippetoe's fanfiction phase

[Anonymous No.15100264]

NASA should torrent away the high quality videos they collect during Artemis

[Anonymous No.15100271]

>>15100264
no

[Anonymous No.15100283]

>>15100264
>torrent away
what did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.15100307]

>>15099888
What I don't understand is the fact that so many movies and stories nowadays have humans as the bad guys or show a very noticeable misanthropic light yet as the same time we live in the most progressive and woke period of the history of our species. How can one go from "humanity is a virus to mother earth and we deserve to go extinct" to "everyone deserves to be loved, if you don't agree you're a nazi" immediately afterwards. I seriously don't wanna sound like /pol/ with the woke shit and all that, but if one says they hate humanity that also includes black people, trans people, and whatever. Just something that seems a little bit contradicting to me, that's all.

[Anonymous No.15100331]

>>15100307
the movie targets a certain demographic so that they themselves can think about themselves in a bad light. All the humans that come to mine Pandora are of a certain type

[Anonymous No.15100351]

>>15100307
It's a part of their neo-feudal propaganda. WEF bullshit like "You'll own nothing and you'll enjoy it".

[Anonymous No.15100365]

>>15100307
At no point in history there was a political movement that wasn't hypocritical.

[Anonymous No.15100375]

Booster 7 is leaving the Megabay so I guess soon we'll see WDR or 33-engine static fire

[Anonymous No.15100382]

>>15100375
can a WDH culminate in a 33 engine static?

[Anonymous No.15100383]

>>15100375
when?

[Anonymous No.15100385]

>>15100375
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO

[Anonymous No.15100386]

>>15100383
2 weeks

[Anonymous No.15100397]

>>15100383
Rollout no earlier than 6th. MSIB on 10th 12th and 13th could be just ship, or booster or both.

[Anonymous No.15100436]

Inshallah Starship does orbital launch on Q1 or Q2 this year.

[Anonymous No.15100455]

Staging!

>>15100454

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[Anonymous No.15100720]

2016 was 20 years ago today...

[Anonymous No.15100774]

>>15100720
not quite, but close. it's been 17 years (this year is 2023)

[Anonymous No.15100798]

>>15099985
>I liked Quaritch’s characterization in it though
Is he still alive? I never saw Avatar 1, I only know it through memes. I assumed he died.
Anyway he should have been the main character all along, so there's some actual narrative tension. Col Coffee Mug could have been the one driving the avatar and going native. More interesting than Jake no-personality Sullenberger

[Anonymous No.15100805]

>>15100059
The main character dreaming confused dreams of earth and space and strange moons, while in cryosleep, then gradually waking up to see the new world below him.
>>15100069
>the colony arrives at the exoplanet and instead of Pandora it’s more like Mars
This would never ever happen.
The world would be thoroughly surveyed with telescopes before we ever set out.

[Anonymous No.15100807]

>>15100307
It's Original Sin in a new packet. Wokeness is about self-flagellation and wallowing in your inherent evil nature.

[Anonymous No.15100809]

>>15100307
It's Original Sin in a new packet. Wokeness is about self-flagellation and wallowing in your inherent evil nature.
>humanity is a virus to mother earth and we deserve to go extinct
They mean "normal people" in this context
>everyone deserves to be loved, if you don't agree you're a nazi
And homos, fat people, and other deviants in this one.