JWST Thread

[Anonymous No.15096615]

Now that the dust has settled, is it safe to say that this entire project was a gigantic failure?

>10 billion dollars for a slightly more high resolution version of images we already had

[Anonymous No.15096619]

>>15096615
That extra resolution proved the big bang false on its first day in operation which is why it hasn't had many days of operation since as the system scrambles to manufacture the new official narrative before releasing more information.

[Anonymous No.15096659]

i don't understand why people would visit /sci/ to shit on science when their twitter-length post betrays their complete lack of understanding of even the most basic things.
hint: JWST is IR, dumbass

giving computers to normies was a mistake

[Anonymous No.15096799]

>>15096615
They should have spent the money on Artemis or a few lunar probes instead
Then again, it wasn't supposed to take this long and it had a 900% cost overrun

[Jealous No.15096816]

>is it safe to say that this entire project was a gigantic failure?
no

[Anonymous No.15096831]

>>15096619
>proved the big bang false
no it didn't. Stop reading conspiracy blogs

[Jealous No.15096833]

>>15096831
It pretty much did.

[Anonymous No.15096840]

>>15096831
Yes it did, stop reading status quo debunking sites that are trying to convince you to take experimental gene therapy while transitioning the gender of your toddler.

[Anonymous No.15096848]

>>15096619
It still baffles me that I only heard a short comment on the hubble tension in Sabine's weekly news. Seems like a really big deal.

[Anonymous No.15096866]

>>15096831
>you have to believe what I believe without question and read all the sources manufactured by the mainstream or you are a conspiracy

[Anonymous No.15096896]

what the fuck is even the point of /sci/ when it's just full of /x/ tier retard bait

[Anonymous No.15096928]

>>15096659
well spoken

[Anonymous No.15097042]

>>15096615
>The Hubble mission has cost approximately $16 billion (adjusted for inflation to 2021 dollars) since its official start in 1977.
>Hubble was finally launched in 1990, but its main mirror had been ground incorrectly, resulting in spherical aberration that compromised the telescope's capabilities. The optics were corrected to their intended quality by a servicing mission in 1993.

What would you think about HST a year after launch?

[Anonymous No.15097423]

>>15096833
>>15096840
>>15096866
the person the conspiracy blogs are quoting to say it disproves the big bang says they're misusing her words and she didn't mean that at all
https://www.space.com/james-webb-space-telescope-science-denial
https://science.thewire.in/the-sciences/eric-lerner-big-bang-jwst/

The guy saying the big bang never happened has been saying the same thing for decades and latches onto anything he can to try to spread his BS. He has fiction books on amazon and is a science fiction writer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Lerner

The only sites talking about the big bang never happened are lunatic christians like this place, saying that the big bang doesn't match the bible and therefore it's wrong etc and quoting people like Eric Lerner
https://creation.com/secular-scientists-blast-the-big-bang

[Anonymous No.15097426]

>>15096866
>i will make assumptions about everything and assume I'm correct about all of them
i read the persons stuff, he sounds insane

[Anonymous No.15097522]

>>15097423
>Journalists are retards who aren't smart enough to get a job in industry, so they resort to journalism.
Alexandra Witze graduated from MIT but was never able to get a job in industry.
>With Webb just at the beginning of a planned 20-plus years of work, astronomers know they have a lot of changes ahead. “Right now I find myself lying awake at three in the morning,” Kirkpatrick says, “wondering if everything I’ve ever done is wrong.”
What an insanely idiotic way to end an article on the JWST.

[Anonymous No.15097603]

>>15096615
>10 billion dollars
they had already spent that much money a years before the launch. when the overall price tag og jwst reached $9.7billion, NASA and their ZOG overlords realized they were facing public humiliation over spending over $10 billion on what was originally budgeted as a $500 million project, so they took all subsequent JWST expenditures off the accounting for JWST and transferred the financial responsibility to NASA's general fund where JWST's disproportionately large cost can more easily be disguised.
Estimates of the overall total cost of JWST so far are in the $16-18 billion range and that doesn't include paying for the dozens and dozens of ground control operators and press release artists for the next decade.

[Anonymous No.15097606]

>>15096866

[Anonymous No.15097614]

>>15097423

[Anonymous No.15097894]

>>15097614
Actually, it's 105 thank you very much

[Anonymous No.15098989]

The James Webb Space Telescope can see all the way to the edge of the universe.

But can it see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?

[Anonymous No.15099003]

10 billion was worth it for this. Look at those pixels

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/NASA%E2%80%99s_Webb_Reveals_Cosmic_Cliffs%2C_Glittering_Landscape_of_Star_Birth.png

[Anonymous No.15099018]

>>15097423
>The only sites talking about the big bang never happened are lunatic christians like this place, saying that the big bang doesn't match the bible and therefore it's wrong
Nonsense, the big bang theory was developed by a priest in a catholic think tank to try to provide a secular narrative that would reinforce the biblical concept of creation.

[Anonymous No.15099021]

>>15097426
What assumption, the assumed redshift they inferred from hubble's low resolution didn't hold up for the entire universe when they looked in higher resolution, so the universe is not constantly and uniformly expanding as previously thought, so it can not be an ongoing big bang reaction.

[Anonymous No.15099023]

>>15098989
Sugar is an incredibly addictive chemical.

[Anonymous No.15099058]

>>15097423
>The only sites talking about the big bang never happened are lunatic christians
I'm not saying you're wrong, because there are some pretty insane flavors of "Christianity" in America. But that's bizarre given that the Big Bang theory was heavily influenced by Christian thinking.

[Anonymous No.15099410]

>>15099021
Redshift is not assumed, it's a property which is measured. You have no idea what you're talking about. Please cite this result.

[Anonymous No.15099425]

>>15099018
Lol, believing the Catholic Church actually has anything but the subversion of Christianity as it’s goal.

[Anonymous No.15099428]

>>15099410
It was measured in some local parts of the universe and assumed to exist everyone until the higher resolution telescope came along and now they have to call the ones that don't conform to the previous assumptions "imposter galaxies".
https://www.space.com/james-webb-space-telescope-impostor-distant-galaxies

[Anonymous No.15099432]

>>15099425
Yet they are the ones who put together the bible that you people consider to be the word of god.

[Anonymous No.15099442]

>>15099428
>imposter galaxies
they're literally laughing at us

[Anonymous No.15099451]

>>15099410
>some stars glow red
>that means they're flying away from us at light speed

[Anonymous No.15099476]

>>15099428
Nope, every galaxy beyond the local group is redshifted. CEERS-DSFG-1 is both intrinsically red and redshifted.
https://arxiv.org/abs/2208.01816
A red galaxy is not the same as a redshifted one. Note that nowhere in that article does it claim this disproves expansion. You're talking shit.
Candidate high redshift galaxies are selected by their apparent colors. Dusty galaxies at lower redshfits can have similar colors to high redshift galaxies, and so are sometimes misclassifieds as higher redshift. As soon as a spectrum is taken there is no ambiguity. It is quite absurd to claim this has anything to do with expansion.

[Anonymous No.15099477]

>>15099451
Do red stars have redshifted emission and absorption lines? Nope. Pic related: >>15099476

[Anonymous No.15099526]

>>15096659
this

[Anonymous No.15099528]

>>15096799
>Then again, it wasn't supposed to take this long and it had a 900% cost overrun
for srs

[Anonymous No.15099649]

space shit is escapism for fuckwits who are unsatisfied with their lives on earth, but have too much of a sense of entitlement to do anything about their sorry situation
>i deserve better!!
>no i will not lift a finger to get it
>i deserve to have it delivered to me for free
>on a silver platter
>because i'm so super special

[Anonymous No.15100743]

>>15099649
I like big giant flaming balls. And the dyson sphere program game. Fuck off, it's just cool.