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Anonymous Mon Dec 26 17:18:12 2022 No.15078919 [Reply] [Original]

Why don't doctors tell you anything that is happening
>Sitting in ER
>food stuck in throat
>nurse comes in says "we need and IV to give you medicine"
>gives me IV puts some sort medicine in the IV without telling me they are
>ER doctors just comes in twice to say "how are you"
>all of sudden they were like here is some papers sign them you are going to the surgery room for an endoscopy
>turns out they called a GI to come hours ago to do an endoscopy and the IV was to loosen my throat so the food might fall
Why don't they tell me what's happening?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 17:20:07 2022 No.15078924 >>15078919 Maybe you have the face of a retard, no offense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 17:25:21 2022 No.15078934 >>15078924 I bet the nurse was supposed to tell me what was happening and was just too lazy.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 17:49:36 2022 No.15079001

>>15078919
Medicine is a joke. Doctors barely know what they are doing but are trained to be extremely arrogant and they don't care for patients understanding or consenting to their treatments. Doctors barely understand medicine themselves, they just do what allows them to keep their job and get paid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 17:51:26 2022 No.15079006 >>15079001 Chud detected

>>	bodhi Mon Dec 26 18:53:07 2022 No.15079189 File: 237 KB, 1000x1500, chudmd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15079006 chud md bitch, check your jewish privilege

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:04:17 2022 No.15079210 >>15078919 just swallow bread bro, it unstucks things

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:10:02 2022 No.15079229 >>15078924 >>15079210 yeah why would you even need to go to the ER

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:14:23 2022 No.15079240 >>15079210 Anon I couldnt swallow anything. Bread won't do anything other then also getting stuck in my throat

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:17:32 2022 No.15079249 https://www.winchesterhospital.org/health-library/article?id=629513

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:18:36 2022 No.15079253 >>15079240 https://www.pristyncare.com/blog/something-stuck-in-my-throat-remedy/#Try_eating_a_banana

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 19:19:02 2022 No.15079254 >>15079249 I have https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/eosinophilic-esophagitis/symptoms-causes/syc-20372197 That's why the food god stuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 21:56:59 2022 No.15079612 >>15078919 Car mechanics don't talk to cars when they fix them >>15079001 Not my problem Don't come to the hospital when you have an issue, no one's forcing you, just stay home and rot

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 22:10:59 2022 No.15079633 >>15078919 They have no respect for you as a person. Doctors and nurses are psychopaths who view patients as piggy banks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 22:11:53 2022 No.15079636 >>15079633 Do you think you deserve respect?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 22:13:10 2022 No.15079638 >>15079612 >no argument, just offended by truth Get owned, faggot. You can't engage because you're a retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 22:13:21 2022 No.15079639 >>15079636 yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 22:13:45 2022 No.15079640 >>15079639 why

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 22:14:11 2022 No.15079641 >>15079636 Decent people treat others with respect by default. But you wouldn't know anything about that, psycho.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 22:31:23 2022 No.15079661 >>15079641 >calls an anon a psycho >says decent people treat others with respect by default really makes you think

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 22:36:08 2022 No.15079671 >>15079641 But you're not treating healthcare workers with respect You're contradicting yourself

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 22:37:42 2022 No.15079674

>>15079638
What argument? Are we having a debate here?
All I see is uneducated proles seething at physicians
You WILL crawl and you WILL beg us for help when your fat ass gets an MI and your kid gets appendicitis, btw
So enjoy your little power trip of seething on 4chan for now

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 22:39:13 2022 No.15079678
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>>15078919
>Why don't they tell me what's happening?

Nurses are trained to administer the drugs NOT trained to discuss them. Doctors have a ton of other people waiting for them and do NOT have the time to spend discussing the drug and procedures that need to be done... are YOU trained to understand the drugs and procedures?
They knew what they had to do and did it.
Blame your country's healthcare system for overworking the nurses and doctors.
If the doctors had more time they would gladly discuss things with you, but you are in an ER and they have no time.

Anonymous Mon Dec 26 23:05:42 2022 No.15079734

>>15079674
>You WILL crawl and you WILL beg us for help when your fat ass gets an MI and your kid gets appendicitis, btw
You sound like a bootlicking faggot that's always saying "OH IF YOU DON'T LIKE POLICE THEN DON'T CALL THEM!!1". Bitch you got triggered and you made a retarded statement to show how butthurt you were.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 26 23:12:32 2022 No.15079749 >>15079734 Butthurt about what?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 00:35:42 2022 No.15079929 >>15079612 >Car mechanics don't talk to cars when they fix them Did they repair while the cardriving too?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 00:42:19 2022 No.15079937 >>15079612 >Car mechanics don't talk to cars when they fix them Yes they do. That's what the OBD port is for.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 00:42:54 2022 No.15079938 >>15079612 >Car mechanics don't talk to cars when they fix them Car mechanics barely talk to their wives either. Not an excuse.

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 01:58:01 2022 No.15080083

>>15078919
ER staff will just do automatically do shit unless you're being proactive in asking questions and being involved. Like they'll just give you pain meds for massive swelling in your leg unless you're asking "what's in that cup" and "no thank you" etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 02:03:11 2022 No.15080090 >>15079001 Most patients, such as yourself, are retarded

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 02:13:05 2022 No.15080101 >>15079674 based, you seem switched on, are most doctors like this or is it mainly midwits who got good at rote memorisation?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 02:53:32 2022 No.15080193 >>15079661 really makes me think that you don't know what "by default" means. Respect can and should (out of moral necessity) conditionally be revoked

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 05:05:28 2022 No.15080405
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>>15078919
While they are supposed to explain procedures to you before you get them, the vast majority of the time people in process-driven environments like hospitals just assume every prior step in the process has been executed correctly.
Some nurse is told to give you drugs. She walks into the room and hands you the drugs and tells you to take them. She doesn't ask if you know what the drugs are. She doesn't ask if you've consented to the procedure. She's been told drugs aren't prescribed unless the patient has informed consent, so she assumes the patient has been informed and has consented.

I went to an urgent care last year because I had some kind of white spot on my tonsil. I could physically see the white spots using a tongue depressor and a phone camera, although I couldn't get a good picture. I walk into an urgent care and tell them my symptoms and what I saw. They ask me if I want a COVID test, I say no. They ask if I want a strep test. I say sure.
Nevertheless, when I'm seen by a nurse she gives me a strep test, and both a shallow and nasopharyngeal COVID test. I was so surprised that I didn't even interrupt her. In reality, I didn't consent to either COVID test and that was actually a violation of informed consent, but that's how these places work, and at the end of the day it's my fault for not stopping her before each procedure and asking what she's doing. Retarded part is that the PA didn't even find the spot, and prescribed me Prednisone, a wild mis-prescription (I don't go to that urgent care anymore, obviously).

The responsibility of your medical provider is to keep you informed and ensure you agree to all procedures ahead of time, but reality is not House MD. Your nurses are sometimes tired and sometimes stupid. Your doctors are sometimes lazy and sometimes egotistical. You need to protect yourself by ensuring no one is doing anything to you that you didn't consent to have done.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 05:29:22 2022 No.15080437 >>15080405 >both a shallow and nasopharyngeal COVID test >I was so surprised that I didn't even interrupt her. In reality, I didn't consent to either COVID test They implemented microchips inside you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 06:23:06 2022 No.15080497 >>15079612 >don't talk about cars they fix them They slash your ties and charge you for replacements.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 06:32:43 2022 No.15080507 File: 595 KB, 630x745, Epe_v5qXMAIcyIr.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15078919 Because like the food you wouldnt be able to properly digest it

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 06:49:36 2022 No.15080517 >>15078919 Explaining what is happening to every fucking retard (70-80% of patients) is just a huge waste of time nobody can afford

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 07:53:01 2022 No.15080566 >>15078919 You need to be the one to stop and ask. Start holding these retards accountable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 08:00:34 2022 No.15080573 >>15079612 this has to be one of the best baits I've seen around lately

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 10:33:02 2022 No.15080710

Half the time it's because we don't have time.

The other half is because, even if you tried, people who're suffering tend to not understand what the hell is going on. Specially people who don't have a healthcare related education. Whenever I give info to patients, like 10% of whatever I said will be actually understood and remembered. The other 90% will be lost and people will make up stuff about what I said because their brain is trying to fill in the blanks.

Of course it's important to provide information but stopping to explain every part of the process, when you have multiple patients, to somebody who ultimately won't understand or remember seems pointless at times

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 11:23:48 2022 No.15080770 >>15079640 because im white.

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 11:48:02 2022 No.15080809

>>15080101 #
Most male doctors I know are based, female doctors are mostly just NPCs(unironically, as much as I despise this overused meme) though
The reality is that doctors are just there to do a job same as an engineer or a plumber, that's why whenever seething schizos start screeching about
>M-MUH HIPPOCRATIC OATH
(nevermind that no one even says that retarded shit for centuries now and it includes brilliant bits like swearing to not do surgery on kidney stone patients or that you're gonna work for free)
>M-MUH EMPATHY
>YOU GOTTA TREAT ME LIKE A PRINCE, I'M THE PATIENT HERE
nigga i come to the shift and all i think about is what I'm gonna have for dinner and how to beat the current elden ring boss I'm stuck on; you're just a collection of symptoms and parameters that I have to identify, diagnose and fix(or at least lessen said symptoms) #374 for the month to get paid

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 11:51:54 2022 No.15080816

>>15080809
>nigga i come to the shift and all i think about is what I'm gonna have for dinner and how to beat the current elden ring boss I'm stuck on; you're just a collection of symptoms and parameters that I have to identify, diagnose and fix(or at least lessen said symptoms) #374 for the month to get paid
You talk like you don't see any problem with this attitude of doctors towards patients.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 11:52:57 2022 No.15080818 >>15080816 What problem would that be?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 15:18:31 2022 No.15081139 >>15080818 Why should I trust a doctor who only sees me as a collection of symptoms and parameters? Why should I believe that what he says will help me if he doesn't give a shit about me and only parrots what he was examined from at med school?

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 18:50:21 2022 No.15081413

>>15078919
Because doctors are criminals that should all be behind bars, but have the kind of freedumb generally only granted to third world dictators so they just do whatever the fuck they want. The fact that they're "treating" patients doesn't even enter into most of their "minds" to be honest.

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 19:05:03 2022 No.15081431

>>15081139
Physicians are essentially just mechanical engineers who are diagnosing a conscious organic machine, but because the machine is sentient, it requires more finesse and empathy. Not to entirely defend his behavior, but there is a certain level of having to remove yourself emotionally to even be able to handle a job in healthcare.

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 20:24:52 2022 No.15081520

>>15081431
That's not even a good analogy. Doctors are more like pajeets trying to fix a dysfunctional operating system, but they only got hired because their cousin was friends with someone inside the company. And also they're being paid to make sure the operating system never gets fixed.

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 21:44:45 2022 No.15081640

>>15081520
>Doctors are more like pajeets trying to fix a dysfunctional operating system, but they only got hired because their cousin was friends with someone inside the company. And also they're being paid to make sure the operating system never gets fixed.
Oh boy, unsubstantiated calumny

Anonymous Tue Dec 27 22:41:57 2022 No.15081772

>>15079612
Idk about docs, but here on 4chan, I've asked what I have sometimes. Usually they'll tell me
>ANON YOU FUCKING HYPOCHONDRIAC
and I wonder whether they're retarded anons larping as doctors. Do doctors think like that too?

Cause I tend to hear these stories of people with fucked up issues that simply got brushed off and the patient ends up dead.

>t. Currently got fucking burning above my dick area, lower abdomen and occasionally both sides.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 23:23:17 2022 No.15081845 >>15081640 The fuck sort of faggot post is this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 27 23:56:48 2022 No.15081896 Smoothbrain here. Why can't we just have a nice ratio of doctors to patients. We should just groom a ton of kids at an early age to go into the medical field.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 03:01:41 2022 No.15082200 >>15081896 Why bother when you can just import an endless supply of third worlders?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 03:04:06 2022 No.15082204 >>15081845 Just some MD seething, don't worry about it.

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 03:07:51 2022 No.15082206

>>15081640
Hey remember that time you guys got half the country hooked on painkillers because drug companies told you to then started a policy of making everyone wait in ERs for 4 hours to cover your own asses?

I remember.

Also, you do fucking know we can see you googling, right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 03:11:24 2022 No.15082211 >>15078919 1. Faster to just do it and explain later 2. You need to ask questions and don't take what they say as fact. Question them like they're an undergrad giving a presentation

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 03:13:35 2022 No.15082214

>>15079001
I think they just deal with people who are sick so much that they just don't give a fuck about putting on a show for the patient, same thing with any profession that interacts with the public on a constant basis. That's why they seem to be detached and not caring

Anonymous Wed Dec 28 03:14:58 2022 No.15082215

>>15078919
there is no free market in healthcare, so it doesn't have profit and loss system to eliminate bad practices and entrepreneurial discovery is also impossible.
This is why healthcare sucks all around the world and has the usual problems that come from central planning.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 03:52:43 2022 No.15082278 File: 946 KB, 1400x5552, China is 'the future' (nope).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15082215 Yes, the entirely for-profit chinese medical industry is MUCH better.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 06:22:14 2022 No.15082516 >>15079612 I see you've never been around mechanic's because they routinely curse at the cars

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 28 21:00:12 2022 No.15084025 >>15078919 You probably look retarded OP

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 16:21:29 2022 No.15085945

>>15079678
>are YOU trained to understand the drugs and procedures?
I am if it's explained to me. In OP's case, it really wouldn't have taken much time to say "we're giving you this to see if it will open up your esophagus and allow the food to pass through" and later on "we're calling a GI to give you an endoscopy." They're too overworked to say two sentences?

Anonymous Thu Dec 29 16:32:18 2022 No.15085974

>>15085945

AND... then they would ask 42 other questions about the drugs and procedures taking up ER doctors very precious time.
I agree that the doctor SHOULD be given the time to carefully explain everything BUT Emergency Rooms are NOT staffed with a enough backup doctors to allow them to spend the time explaining everything.
People do NOT just hear a quick explanation and are settled. They in the ER and are VERY nervous, in pain, and desperate, and ask a many many questions.
Blame the Health care system NOT the doctors and nurses.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 16:36:26 2022 No.15085982 >>15078919 Because western people are sheltered and would freak out at it

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 16:37:36 2022 No.15085983 >>15078919 Doocters are narcissistic and misanthropic at best, thinly veiled psychopaths on average.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 16:39:53 2022 No.15085987 >>15078919 Why don't you ask

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 16:41:23 2022 No.15085991 >>15080193 kill yourself you retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 29 20:57:42 2022 No.15086551 >>15078919 >body autonomy in 2022 Lol

Anonymous Fri Dec 30 00:51:09 2022 No.15086920
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>>15078919
>>nurse comes in says "we need and IV to give you medicine"
>>gives me IV puts some sort medicine in the IV without telling me they are
How fucking stupid are you??
So you let any stranger come up and put shit in you?
You must be buttfucked a lot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 01:29:53 2022 No.15086985 >>15086920 Hire a cleaning service. YOU: >How fucking stupid are you?? >So you let any stranger come into your house >You must be buttfucked a lot. Pure 100% moron!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 01:32:42 2022 No.15086988 >>15086985 >Hire a cleaning service. What idiot does this? Are people other than blacks really that lazy and dumb? All cleaning service women are felons and drug addicts or illegals. They case your place, and come back to steal shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 01:55:25 2022 No.15087022 >>15086988 >All cleaning service women are felons and drug addicts or illegals. >They case your place, and come back to steal shit. What third world, hell hole of a country, do you live in!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 01:56:29 2022 No.15087024 >>15087022 America obviously. It's Brazil with a different flag.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 02:02:03 2022 No.15087036 File: 240 KB, 962x642, Hatianss.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15087024 kek touche picrel of a bordertown in Texas

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 02:36:49 2022 No.15087066 File: 230 KB, 969x713, Imaging_The_Trump_Wall.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15087036 >Picrel of a bordertown in Texas Image of USA-Mexico border If Trump had built the wall

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 03:02:26 2022 No.15087095 >>15079674 Holy fucking based

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 03:08:00 2022 No.15087100 File: 68 KB, 875x900, Fake worthless fraudulent government.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15087066 Fuck Yeah! that would be hecking awesome! Fucking fake ass fraudulently elected officials stopped it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 03:43:05 2022 No.15087152 >>15081772 stop having gay sex with OP

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 15:15:25 2022 No.15088075 File: 35 KB, 650x867, FB_IMG_1672411869690.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15079636 Ummm... Who hurt you sweaty???

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 22:39:14 2022 No.15088876 >>15081413 You are free to practise witchcraft, TCM or ayurveda by youself, but please make it known that if you are in an accident or something that you disawov modern medicine and would rather die than head to an ER.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 22:45:24 2022 No.15088884 >>15088876 why the hell would he do that?

Anonymous Fri Dec 30 22:48:56 2022 No.15088891

>>15078919
Ok guys serious question: I know most doctors treat their patients like shit and withold useful information or alternative treatments because the patients always complain and just want to take a pill and go home.
How can I communicate effectively to a medical professional that I'm not a bitch patient and if I can cure my condition by doing some yoga shit everyday for 5 months I will actually do it instead of getting hooked on opioids?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 23:23:05 2022 No.15088955 >>15088891 Medical professional = certified drug dealers who create addicts from healthy people for living. The person you're looking for is the exact opposite of a "medical professional.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 23:42:27 2022 No.15089021 >>15078919 They enjoy the feeling of treating you like a slave. It's all about power. They suffer abuse from their management for a paycheck, and so they derive satisfaction from abusing and controlling helpless patients.

Anonymous Fri Dec 30 23:44:29 2022 No.15089024

>>15088876
TCM and ayurveda have helped me enormously more than western medicine.

Though, those are both about long-term health and not trauma care.

It's funny that you only point to western medicine when someone needs a blood transfusion and is in critical condition, and ignore all the obese people on 10 different prescriptions.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 30 23:50:30 2022 No.15089039 >>15089021 This. Pathologically higher #s of narcissists among MDs and RNs.

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