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https://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~ardm/lbmkemily5.pdf

According to this paper, Hilbert's logicism (and by extension, Russel, and Whitehead) had a lasting impact on all future mathematics.
The author claims that the damage Bourbaki especially did was to champion Hilbert's school as a foundational framework while ignoring all subsequent developments in foundational research. Most working mathematicians today, especially French ones, think either that logic is 'complete' or at least that logical research today is irrelevant.

What does this mean for the future of math? Should such foundational questions be of concern to the working mathematician?

>> No.15055675

>opinions and historical facts
>>>/his/
this is not a scientific paper, faggot

>> No.15055677

>>15055668
Wtf, why is he supporting globohomo??? I thought everyone was based and racist before 2008

>> No.15055681

>>15055675
Wrong.

>> No.15055694

>>15055668
>https://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~ardm/lbmkemily5.pdf
Was this written by a monkey who lives in an island off the coast of Madagascar in the Indian Ocean? It sure reads like it was.

>> No.15055701

>>15055694
he's a French boomer compsci professor.

>> No.15055732

>>15055677
Actually, the quote in the image would be considered racist by today's standards. Mathematics is considered "white culture" and a tool of "colonization." By not acknowledging the oppression of people of color, Hilbert is sustaining systemic racism against minorities

>> No.15055741

>>15055732
Liar, /pol/ told me that only white people can do math and science

>> No.15055760

>>15055741
Well, that's racist and wrong.

But it's also anti-racist and correct, because "math and science" have historically been tools of oppression, used to sustain systems of white supremacy. All the "mathematicians" and "scientists" you read about are white males, and concepts such as "rigor," "validity," and "correctness" are inherently white values. We need to decolonize the curriculum to be more equitable to people of color by eliminating math and science in favor of emotional learning and lived experience.

>> No.15055766

>>15055760
I'm not reading all that. That image convinced me that all mathematicians are globohomo.

>> No.15055772

>>15055766
Makes sense. Reading and comprehension are also values of white culture

>> No.15056371

>>15055677
>>15055732
It's simply a quote about the universality of math, not everything is political you 95 IQ midwits

>> No.15056695

>>15055760
>Well, that's racist and wrong.
That would be true. The correct statement however is: Niggers can't do mathematics

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15056718

Ah yes. Quite a bit of damage. Foundational concerns are incredibly important to mathematicians even if the average modern mathematician wants to ignore it.

>> No.15056843

I remain confused?

>> No.15056851

>>15055668
The solution to this "problem" is to write a big nice book compiling all the significant updates to foundational research since Russell and Whitehead. You can't expect someone outside of foundational research to do it for you.

>> No.15056890

Oh no Hilbert is now anti racist. What will the racists of sci now do