/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.15034212]

This will be Mars in your lifetime.

[Anonymous No.15034216]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuEmD9WRKes

This will be martians in 100 lifetimes.

[Anonymous No.15034238]

we'd have a better chance terraforming Antarctica than mars

[Anonymous No.15034239]

>>15034212
>Decalcification of bones: astronauts lose bone mass 12 times faster than a post-menopausal woman;

Lol that's just 1 of many issues of microgravity. I know most of you who wish to live on mars are weak faggots anyway, maybe that's why you dream of it, because you are already weak.

Fucking dreaming kids. Grow some balls.

[Anonymous No.15034254]

>>15034238
No good, the underground Nazis would interfere with us.

[Anonymous No.15034264]

Venus should be a higher priority than Mars. Due to its larger size and higher gravity Venus could be made into a second Earth if they can find a way to cool it down. This could be easily done by building large solar sails around the planet. Once Venus cools down they can then introduce bacteria to make the atmosphere breathable.

[Anonymous No.15034284]

>>15034212
We don’t have the genetic code to cope with living in .38 g also you can’t make an atmosphere that’s livable for us given that gravity

[Anonymous No.15034286]

>>15034212
No.
But the obesity would be like 90%

[Anonymous No.15034287]

>>15034264
Venus doesn't have enough hydrogen. It's useless.

[Anonymous No.15034291]

>>15034287
So import it from solar wind harvesting stations loitering at L4 and L5?

[Anonymous No.15034315]

>>15034264
>Cool down this massive molten-hot hell plant, even though we can't even stop our own planet from getting slightly warmer.

[Anonymous No.15034323]

You can unironically park large balloons on Venus at altitude and sit at 1 atm with comparable gravity to earth. You also have an atmosphere above you to protect your from solar wind. Only issue then is the acid rain.

[Anonymous No.15034329]

>>15034323
>Only issue then is the acid rain
Only issue is that you would melt

[Anonymous No.15034332]

>>15034291
You would need billions of years to make a tiny sea like the Caspian Sea.

[Anonymous No.15034339]

>>15034212
I really hope so, but I imagine the poltards and schizos will do everything in their power to prevent this from happening. If we couldn't even deal with a pandemic that was literally ravaging the entire worlds and killing millions of people, I doubt we will be able to muster the collective will to go to mars. Maybe if we get all of the disinformation and conspiracy theory shit under control, we'll be able to, but as things stand we have a number of obstacles preventing us from making this sort of scientific progress, and ironically none of the obstacle actually have anything to do with science or human ingenuity itself. These obstacles are sociological and political in nature. If we really want to get to mars, the first step is not to build the rocket that will get us there, but rather figuring out what to do about all the people who will do everything in their power to stop us from getting there.

[Anonymous No.15034346]

>>15034212
we can't even terraform Earth

[Anonymous No.15034350]

>>15034287
The clouds on Venus are mainly sulfuric acid so there's plenty of hydrogen available

[Anonymous No.15034358]

>>15034332
I thought you wanted hydrogen? If it's water you're after, import some kuiper belt objects. Or relieve Triton of a little of its water.

[Anonymous No.15034360]

>>15034254
>the heckin based Nazis were secretly so advanced that they had secret UFO technology and a base in Antarctica.

I always find this to be one of the dumbest conspiracy theories. I honestly can't believe how someone could fall fort it, but I guess I should never be surprised by the profound stupidity and ignorance of poltards and schizos.
If Hitler really had all of this super advanced technology, then why didn't he use it to win the war?

You're a fucking retard. Take you fucking meds, and go back to pol.

[Anonymous No.15034370]

>>15034360
>If Hitler really had all of this super advanced technology, then why didn't he use it to win the war?
Hitler was just a pawn of the real power in German, the Kriegsmarine. They had their sights set on a bigger prize - the stars.

[Anonymous No.15034374]

If you want to do Mars, you should start with the babby mode challenge of the Moon. The only reason this isn't being done is because of Memelon Musk.
Venus or one of several of Jupiter's moons like Callisto or Europa has most of the raw stuff you need. Mars is always going to be handicapped by its lack of an internal dynamo.

[Anonymous No.15034389]

>>15034374
Moon is still within the grasp of the ruinous powers on Earth. The whole point of Mars is that it's hard to interfere with you once you get there.

[Anonymous No.15034390]

>>15034370
You live in a fucking fantasy world.
Touch grass, incel.

[Anonymous No.15034392]

>>15034350
>plenty of hydrogen available
LMFAO

Venus needs 15,000 times more hydrogen to be like Earth. 15,000.

[Anonymous No.15034400]

>>15034390
>Touch grass
You'd like that, wouldn't you.
Don't think I'm not wise to your tactics.

[Anonymous No.15034419]

The most habitable planet/moon in our solarsystem is titan
Only thing needed is heating and oxygen, oxygen is easy to get on titan.
The massive abundance of fuel would make powering a settlement for heating easy.
To get to titan we first have to develop technology by going to the moon, mars or the moons of jupiter.

[Anonymous No.15034428]

>>15034212
Bro, have you ever worked outside in -40°C weather? Have you tried to manipulate tools, run equipment or even put on clothing at that kind of temperature?

I'm in Northern Alberta and have, and I'll tell you it's difficult to even put on boots and 25% of the equipment fails. And that is still orders of magnitude better because the atmosphere is nice and thick and breathable.

I'll believe we can establish permanent settlements on Mars when I see permanent settlements on Antarctica.

[Anonymous No.15034440]

>>15034428
>I'll believe we can establish permanent settlements on Mars when I see permanent settlements on Antarctica.
It would be fully settled and exploited if it wasn't illegal to visit.

[Anonymous No.15034445]

>>15034428
>permanent settlements on Antarctica
There are people that live year round.
What's preventing us is the antarctica treaty.
>working in the cold
You're in pressure suits that thermally protect you from the cold
>failing equipment
Yeah i agree this is overlooked
Not to mention the dust

[Anonymous No.15034447]

>>15034440
>It would be fully settled and exploited if it wasn't illegal to visit.

Nonsense.

[Anonymous No.15034449]

>>15034447
The Antarctic Treaty completely prohibits economic exploitation.

[Anonymous No.15034455]

>>15034445
>What's preventing us is the antarctica treaty.

Another stupid faggot trying to nitpick his way out of a losing argument. Let's deflect this back at you morons: why aren't the northernmost regions of Greenland inhabited?

[Anonymous No.15034462]

>>15034455
Ice Gnomes.

[Anonymous No.15034467]

>>15034419
How do we move Titan to Earth's orbit?

[Anonymous No.15034470]

>>15034467
It would evaporate if you did that.
Plus these moons have next to no gravity, it's impossible to walk normally. Mars is the absolute lower limit.

[Anonymous No.15034479]

>>15034264
>Once Venus cools down
I suggest building an orbiting ring, like Paul Birch suggested over Earth (also as WH40k suggests over Mars).
The material will have to be imported of course, from Venus-crossing asteroids.
But all the shit they served to Birch about how we can't turn Earth into an ice planet, is a *bonus* to Venus, because as you point out it's the planet with too much heat.

[Anonymous No.15034481]

>>15034455
They are?
There's bases in north greenland.
But also there's not as many resources and open space as there is in antarctica.
There would be mining, oil and gas settlements in antarctica if thet were allowed.

[Anonymous No.15034486]

>>15034481
>There's bases in north greenland.

Bases with part-time occupants supplied entirely from external sources are nowhere near analogous to any extra-planetary colony which will need a high degree of self-sufficiency. Try again.

[Anonymous No.15034487]

>>15034392
Venus has more than enough atmospheric hydrogen and water to support the needs of the small initial colony. As the planet cools down and terraforming proceeds more water can be brought in as needed via comets and asteroids just as would have to be done for Mars to make it more Earth-like. Compared to Mars, Venus is a much more suitable planet for mankind because the gravity is almost Earth-normal. Mars may be inhabited first because it appears to be easier but Venus is the real prize. Having two habitable Earthlike planets in the same solar system will provide incredible benefits for humanity.

[Anonymous No.15034492]

>>15034486
Why would they be self-sufficient when they don't have to be? Now you're just making up new rules so you don't have to concede.

[Anonymous No.15034497]

>>15034492
>Why would they be self-sufficient when they don't have to be?

How do you supply several thousand permanent inhabitants?

[Anonymous No.15034498]

>>15034486
Nah you're retarded.
Most northern tip of greenland there is no incentive to colonise or establish permanent settlement.
Antarctica has resources, but otherwise there's a treaty preventing extraction.

Mars has resources and it also puts us closer to the asteroid belt to mine.

The whole point of doing stuff like this is developing the technology to make it possible.

[Anonymous No.15034505]

Ah okay so my reply just didn't work?
That's 4chan breaking in a way i've not seen

[Anonymous No.15034509]

>mars
what we're willing to do to get away from latinos

[Anonymous No.15034514]

>>15034470
WHY WOULD IT EVAPORATE
WHY CAN'T WE HAVE A MINI EARTH MOON

[Anonymous No.15034515]

>>15034497
>How do you supply several thousand permanent inhabitants?
How do you supply several million bugpeople in New York City?

[Anonymous No.15034520]

>>15034514
It would turn into a hothouse planet.
All the liquids and water solids would evaporate into the atmosphere making it very dense

[Anonymous No.15034522]

>>15034390
You're one to talk. You live in the world where obvious shitposting is a real post.

[Anonymous No.15034528]

>>15034515
Now try to supply New York City but the obstacle is Earth escape velocity.

[Anonymous No.15034530]

>>15034528
Cities aren't self-sufficient because it's easy to transport shit on Earth. I'm telling you your argument about Antarctica is stupid because we would obviously do the cheap thing instead of the expensive thing if given the choice.

[Anonymous No.15034533]

Obligatory Kurz video on how to terraform Venus quickly. This actually looks easy. Why don't we build these space mirrors to reverse global warming on Earth?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-WO-z-QuWI

[Anonymous No.15034544]

>>15034212
>This will be Mars in your lifetime.

No magnetosphere, no life as we know it. Enjoy your skin cancer ayy lmaos.

[Anonymous No.15034560]

>>15034339
I would not believe in the collectiveness and push for more of it if unsociable underachievers in the minority are the root cause for the collective homo's failure in covid containment or mars exploration, something that is suppose to be easier given the increased capacity, something that is supposed to work once every tweet and videos are auto detected and be given a credibility warning and a link to the page of a credible site.

[Anonymous No.15034562]

>>15034520
but you could still live there, right?

[Anonymous No.15034621]

>>15034339
>pandemic that was literally ravaging the entire worlds and killing millions of people
You're overdoing the bait, but I have to admit it's still funny.

[Anonymous No.15034653]

Imagine wanting to live in a place with no concept of nature, how sad!

[Anonymous No.15034654]

>>15034653
This is a good thing though. If all the "I fucking love Science" reddit bugmen fuck off to Mars, the Earth may become a better place.

[Anonymous No.15034666]

>HURR DURRRRH, WE SHOUWD COWONIZE EVERY SINGLE CORNER OF URF AND FEED ALL THE NIGGUHS OF COWUH BEFORE WE GO TUH' MAHS!
I hate this fucking mindset and I'm going to bury it once and for all. The very reason we haven't made a grand effort to colonize and utilize Antarctica is not just because of the frigid conditions, but also because it's literally illegal to do anything but set up smaller research stations.
>MARS IS COLDER AND HARSHER THAN ANTARCTICA!
Mars also has a much thinner atmosphere made of CO2, so the freezing aspect isn't as outright dangerous since well, you're gonna be going there with a pressurized suit regardless. What's a little extra heat?
>>15034239
>what is resistance training
>What is proper nutrition
>What are all the cases of ISS attendees returning home and only needing to sit down a little to readjust to Earth gravity
>WHAT ARE CENTRIFUGES
>>15034374
>What are Artemis and Starship HLS
>>15034544
Mars will probably just be dotted with biodomes and underground neighborhoods until a Lagrange satellite unleashing a gargantuan shield of a magnetic field can be built and launched.
>>15034653
I'll take it over living with niggers.
>>15034654
>Implying the IFLS types don't side with the earthnigger jews saying we should solve all problems on earth first

[Anonymous No.15034680]

>>15034514
IT'S MADE OF ICE FUCKPANTS

[Anonymous No.15034682]

>>15034544
Magnetosphere is absolutely irrelevant. At most it reduces atmospheric erosion on the millennial scale. Ground level radiation is blocked by Earths atmosphere, not its magnetosphere. Same effect will protect Mars once the atmosphere is restored.

[Anonymous No.15034684]

>>15034487
Completely delusional. Cosmic kek.

[Anonymous No.15034750]

>>15034212
>This will be Mars in your lifetime.
they've got to hurry, then.

[Anonymous No.15034787]

>>15034750
Yeah I've probably got like 40 years left, gonna have to do some pretty rapid terraforming

[Anonymous No.15034836]

>>15034562
No
It would a an extremely dense atmosphere with a large greenhouse affect.
Over time the sun would gradually strip the atmosphere away due to a lack of a magnetic field.
And eventually it will go to another airless rock

[Anonymous No.15034872]

>>15034216
this is what Martians will look like

[Anonymous No.15034880]

>>15034479
How close are we to building one on Earth do you think? It would more or less solve all of our major problems.

[Anonymous No.15034911]

>>15034666
you will never go to space

[Anonymous No.15034954]

>>15034212
>This will be Mars in your lifetime.
Lmao. terraforming a planet takes thousands of years bare minimum. Even something straightforward like baking oxygen out of the rocks is going to take forever, even if you do have energy to do it.

>>15034287
And mars doesn't have any nitrogen

>>15034389
You're gonna be depend on earth for damn near everything that can't be found locally

>>15034533
Because you still have put an obscene amount of material in to spac, millions if not billions of tons.

[Anonymous No.15035046]

>>15034911
Devil trips beats 9/11, I'm still going faggot.

[Anonymous No.15035511]

What are the chances of an international base/tourist hotel on the moon in our lifetimes?

[Anonymous No.15035513]

>be hooman
>cant convert desert to forest
>hurr durr lets convert a whole dead planet in hueg forest

[Anonymous No.15035527]

>>15034212
>lifetime.
we're gonna get near immortality tech in the next 50 years? nice
While I think a permanent human base on mars is possible in our lifetime, any serious terraforming attempt is measured on a timescale of centuries, not decades.

[Anonymous No.15035531]

>>15034954
Mars never gonna get a real atmosphere, at least you can build in there, for small "bubbles" there's enough nitrogen. Hydrogen is even scarcer but you don't need 10^20kg like in Venus.

>there's even less hydrogen
>perchlorate everywhere

[Anonymous No.15035534]

>>15034212
I just ate 2 pounds of pentobarbitol.

Tell me more about how this is going to happen in my "lifetime"

I'll just be in the corner seizing.

[Anonymous No.15035542]

>>15035531
>>there's even less hydrogen
>>hydrogen
reread my post

[Anonymous No.15035546]

>>15034212
Yeah, I don't think so (especially if I really do have progressive nervous system disease lol)
>>15035534
Based.

[Anonymous No.15035566]

>>15035546
Get better soon, Michael J. Fox

[Anonymous No.15035574]

>>15035542
>reread my post
> there's enough nitrogen
Reread my post.
I'm not talking about terraforming Mars, but for vivariums there's more than enough carbon, nitrogen and oxygen in Mars. Venus is useless because you need hydrogen to cool it.

[Anonymous No.15035672]

>>15035513
China, Israel beg to differ.

[Anonymous No.15036045]

>>15035574
Venus might only be of use for atmospheric mining from floating platforms.

[Anonymous No.15036054]

>>15034360
What IQ do you have to fall for that shitpost?

[Anonymous No.15036069]

>>15034360
>spergs out at an obvious joke
Calm down, buddy.

[Anonymous No.15036075]

>>15035511
The light scattering from those spotlights is pissing me off.

[Anonymous No.15036090]

>>15036045
Very realistic anon... very...

[Anonymous No.15036101]

>>15034239
Upside is humans can get really tall

[Anonymous No.15036154]

>>15036101
And the 7-foot martian women will wear 7-inch heels routinely, further mogging the Earthlets.