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15028526 No.15028526 [Reply] [Original]

Right. That's cool, Albert. But did you measure the one-way path speed of light to verify your theory?

>> No.15028543

>>15028526
"Measure? Oy gevalt! You expect me to work with my hands?"

>> No.15028546

>>15028526
He quite literally states that causality being treated as isotropic is convention, simply because there exists no way to measure it in one direction.

>> No.15028557

>>15028526
>one-way speed
Nice buzzword, it would be a shame if you couldn't explain why it means something

>> No.15028561
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15028561

>>15028526
would be pretty interesting if someone actually tried to perform this shit

>> No.15028562

>>15028557
Official speed of light is actually two-way speed of light divided by two, this makes their aether denying conspiracy validated forever and they do not want you to know about it

>> No.15028569

>>15028562
I was making fun of you but you were too retarded to notice it!

>> No.15028571

>>15028561
The second pic btfo sois, the light of traveling object you see is moving towards you, the speed of light doesn't matter there, you might aswell see the object go 10c yet the light to your eye will be 1c

>> No.15028585

>>15028561
>einstein dilation
was he actually a woman?

>> No.15028587

>>15028526
just go to a black hole and have the light be gravitationally lensed to that it returns to the same point it left.

>> No.15028787

>>15028587
sweaty, one-way path of light is not curved, the black hole moves through aether thus this it not a valid method

>> No.15028834 [DELETED] 

>>15028526
Retard, have your heard of Maxwell's equations?

>> No.15029011

>>15028526
Jew and jew

>> No.15029323

>>15029011

At least Oppenheimer had the practical wherewithal to come up with the Atom Bomb alongside Fermi, what did Einstein ever do besides come up with whacky theories?

>> No.15029747

>>15029323
oppenheimer prolly stole it all like einstein stole patents in patent office job, it was all german doings during WW2 that was not finished, that is all

>> No.15030108

>>15029747

No one claims that Oppenheimer discovered Nuclear Fission. I am just saying that his work in managing the Manhattan Project was marvelous.

>> No.15030123

>>15030108
Groves did a lot of the management for the operation, and much of the success was just due to putting a lot of smart people in one lab together.

>> No.15030132

>>15028543
Kek

>> No.15030304

>>15028557
It doesn't mean anything because there is no proof light travels, let alone "has a speed"

>>15028587
>>15028787
>black holes

One conspiracy at a time please

>>15029747
He came up with theories that stupid parrots associate with the creation of GPS and the atom bomb...somehow. For some reason someone I'm sure will be able to correlate it, one of these decades anyway.

>> No.15030338

>>15030304
>there is no proof light travels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtsXgODHMWk

>> No.15030362

>>15030338
It's funny how much more it looks like a wave when it's slowed down that much.

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>>15030338
>He thinks there's some magical camera sensor that registers light faster than the light hits it.
>This digital rendition is proof
It couldn't make sense if you tried.

>>15030362
*when it's digitally altered to slow down that much.
ftfy.

>> No.15030589

>>15030304
So radio wave communications don't exist. Cell phones are a myth. And the latency period due to c is all wrong.

>> No.15030599

>>15030589
in quacksoitits words the explanation is simply latency is illusion and for you it happened only after your brain collapsed the wave function of photon hitting your eyes

>completely sane theory

>> No.15030655

>>15030589
>So radio wave communications don't exist.
"Waves" of what exactly?

>And the latency period due to c is all wrong.
>rounding values as opposed to actually experimenting with light to see if it travels.

But yes, tell us how programming a server with universal automatic latency as an easy fix to avoid packet loss is attributed to any experiment ever done on light or determining its speed.

>> No.15031057

>>15030655
>programming a server with universal automatic latency
Huh, What the fuck are you talking about. Is this some retarted conspiracy theory where latency is programmed into all computers by the cult of Einstein or some shit.

>> No.15031631

>>15031057
>Is this some retarted conspiracy theory where latency is programmed into all computers
No. The servers they connect to have it programmed simply to avoid the incoherency of multiple different latencies. What is it with you Einstein bots. You don't actually know how this shit works because you just repeat the mantras you were taught over and over instead of actually looking it up for yourself.
We don't know the speed of light, we don't know if it even travels or not. We don't even know what it actually is. Deal with it.

>> No.15032324

>>15030655
>"Waves" of what exactly?
Aether.

>> No.15032549

>>15028585
He will never be a woman.

>> No.15032742

>>15028526
"No, Robert, I spent ze day jerking off "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkMHcHQpwlc

>> No.15032765

>>15030655
>"Waves" of what exactly?
...Waves of electromagnetic fluctuations

Lol, so do you believe in electricity? What causes the flow of electrons in a wire in your mind?

>> No.15032834

>>15028546
>He quite literally states that causality being treated as isotropic is convention, simply because there exists no way to measure it in one direction.
why not using a rotating pulse laser with known rpm and puls rate and measure dot length at known distance?

>> No.15032836

>>15028569
>I was making fun of you but you were too retarded to notice it!
he's right guy, There are 2 kinds of retards, one are dumb the other you are dumb.

>> No.15033357

>>15032765
>Waves of electromagnetic fluctuations
>Waves of another word for "Hertzian wave"
Whoa bro.

>do you believe in electricity?
Believe in? Do you actually believe it's "something" in the first place? It's a wave. Of what...you have yet to clarify.

>What causes the flow of electrons in a wire in your mind?
What causes that in your mind? You actually believe magic bumping particles are "flowing" in a solid copper line? Ridiculous.

>> No.15033918

>>15030123
They were only willing to work on the project if "one of their own" was heading the project, with very little bureaucracy. That's literally why Oppenheimer was picked. Almost every scientist that worked on the project respected his status as a scientist and knew they could actually achieve their goals instead of just dancing around a bunch of stupid non-scientists that didn't understand the scientific process.

>> No.15033955

>>15033357
>Waves of another word for "Hertzian wave"
Or just a condition in which the electric and magnetic fields continuously reverse direction

>Do you actually believe it's "something" in the first place? It's a wave.
Sure, electricity is a "wave" that forms from the flow of electrons down (well, technically up) the gradient of an electric potential. The presence of more electrons in a particular place creates a net force along and to the surface of a wire.

>You actually believe magic bumping particles are "flowing" in a solid copper line?
Ok, well, people who use the model of electromagnetism described in Maxwell's equations can create generators, motors, turbines, power plants, transformers, batteries, power lines, along with the rest of modern technology.

People who use your empty, schizo model of electricity can't predict or create anything. All you can do is come up with a bunch of mindless rationalizations for why everything on earth just happens to be consistent with Maxwell's equations.

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>>15033955
>Or just a condition
What is being "conditioned"?
>in which the electric and magnetic fields continuously reverse direction
And this is "traveling" to you? This is a speed? There is no actual "wave", it's disparity. Hysteresis. Of what though?
>electricity is a "wave" that forms
No no. "Electricity is a hertzian waveform".

from the flow of electrons down (well, technically up) the gradient of an electric potential.
There is nothing flowing through the copper wire. It's solid.

>The presence of more electrons in a particular place creates a net force along and to the surface of a wire.
It's a field form. It has nothing to do with electrons. "Electrons" are simply a means of quantifying this disparity of medium being perturbed.

>Ok, well, people who use the model of electromagnetism described in Maxwell's equations can create generators, motors, turbines, power plants, transformers, batteries, power lines, along with the rest of modern technology.
I'm glad they can all take advantage of 100+ year principles and abuse them by making "new" rotating magnetic field devices, such as the really really big one at CERN. Oh and then there's the "jam pack dielectrics closer this time and call it "modern"" type of tech where we pretend we couldn't have just done that 50+ years ago.
It's just repetitive, redundant, boring and not really intriguing is all (because it's all the same shit essentially). None of them can actually show proof of this electron particle. None of them can even explain how a magnet works. And you think describing these facts mean anything?


>People who use your empty, schizo model of electricity
What model would that be? Also "Electricity: the hertzian waveform" is one of the schizo models of electrification.

>> No.15036164

>>15034607
>What is being "conditioned"?
The electric and magnetic fields

>And this is "traveling" to you?
The wave travels in a direction transverse to that of the oscillating fields. That is how a transverse wave works. The wavefront travels outward from the charged source.

>There is nothing flowing through the copper wire. It's solid.
Lol, what deranged nonsense. Electron flow is the source of electricity. Why don't you give me some schizo ranting on how lightning or Tesla coils work

>I'm glad they can all take advantage of 100+ year principles
Yes, 100+ year principles like Maxwell's equations, which describe the world very accurately, and allow us to make "modern" tech. Including computers, x-rays, MRIs, LEDs

> None of them can even explain how a magnet works. And you think describing these facts mean anything?
I mean, magnetic fields, electron dipole moments, and Ampere's law do the job just fine. Unless you mean "why do forces exist," which is a rather irrelevant question.

>What model would that be?
The model where you can't give any details or make any testable predictions but still think you know what you're talking about.

>> No.15036602

>>15036164
>The electric and magnetic fields
The conditioning of those is what results in "Electricity the hertzian waveform". There is no speed, a rate of induction.

>The wave travels
The "Wave" is nothing other than the hysteresis of them material being polarized. There is nothing actually traveling, much like how water molecules in water waves don't actually travel to the "destination" of a coast. For these waves to even form, the "destination" has to be displaced before it even arrives.

>Lol, what deranged nonsense.
It's solid. There's nothing traveling in the plastic coated metal, dipshit.

>Why don't you give me some schizo ranting on how lightning or Tesla coils work
The conditions are set up for a discharge. There is nothing flowing in

>Electron flow is the source of electricity
No rotating magnetic field, no electricity. No magnets, no electricity. Both demonstrable, your electron not so much.

>Yes, 100+ year principles like Maxwell's equations, which describe the world very accurately, and allow us to make "modern" tech. Including computers, x-rays, MRIs, LEDs
Yes that tech. The archaic hertzian waveform tech. You mention all of this like it's some sort of revelation despite Nikola Tesla himself explicitly saying that his discovery of the rotating magnetic field will be used in scientific discoveries until kingdom come. Forgive me for taking something so redundant and repetitive for granted, it's just that it's almost like that's what it was designed for me to do. Now go build another bread and circus "collider".

>I mean, magnetic fields, electron dipole moments, and Ampere's law do the job just fine. Unless you mean "why do forces exist," which is a rather irrelevant question.
"How do magnets work?" A relatively simple question, yet dodged like it's Enron stock being sold.

>The model where you can't give any details or make any testable predictions but still think you know what you're talking about.
Nobody knows how a magnet works, sorry.

>> No.15036627

>>15036602
*The conditions are set up for a discharge. There is nothing "flowing" when talking about setting up conditions for a phenomena to manifest itself. There is no "flow", no "electricity" until that happens. It's not like water where it will still flows where the pipe breaks.
No, you break the connection you get nothing. Where is the source of this "flow" that is no longer flowing when the connection breaks? Does it know to turn itself off when the pipe breaks so it stops flowing? Ridiculous.