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/sfg/ - Space Flight General: Christmas Edition Anonymous Thu Dec 1 23:58:27 2022 No.15025868 [Reply] [Original]

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It's offically christmas season

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:00:34 2022 No.15025872 File: 225 KB, 621x720, 000773.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/13ericralph31/status/1598453458218397698

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>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:02:29 2022 No.15025876 File: 1.02 MB, 2352x1516, 1979 - Vostok new years' postcard.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15025868 FTS Archive, merry chrystler https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KCJBL632oieD1r6JOh_5Eg9NTcf_-hH8?usp=share_link

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:02:37 2022 No.15025877 File: 111 KB, 603x407, 000775.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15025873

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:03:14 2022 No.15025880 File: 320 KB, 515x540, P.T. Musk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] STEP RIGHT UP

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:03:43 2022 No.15025882 >>15025872 Drop a bomb on amazon, in real life

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:04:27 2022 No.15025885
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>>15025877
not sure if I am willing to get blackpilled yet, starlink did get approval for 7.5k gen 2 satellites after all
might these weird concessions just be a way to lessen the risk of lawsuits or something like that from spacex competitors (lawsuits at FCC that is)

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:08:04 2022 No.15025891

>>15025885
Yeah it could just be a “ugh okay we’ll grant partial request but pretty soon the flood gate will open once spacex demonstrated safe and reliable operation with minimal error”
IF, however, they are doing this purely on the grounds of “letting others catch up first” then jeff needs to be fucking thrown out the airlock. He’s already a giant faggot and this would be yet another instance of holding back humanity’s full potential because he’s a butthurt pillow biter with inferior technology

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:11:31 2022 No.15025897 Haven't been here in like 6 months, when is starship supposed to be launching again?

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:12:40 2022 No.15025899

>>15025891
>>15025885
The fact that OneWeb would be 100% fucked if they applied for this, and the document also notes that, does give me hope.
As much as I like Starlink, someone has to make sure that we don’t have irresponsible companies building megaconstellations in LEO. Imagine if we had dozens of Starlink-sized swarms with shitty quality control.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:12:47 2022 No.15025900 >>15025897 two weeks

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:14:01 2022 No.15025902 >>15025897 February is the most realistic date. On the plus side, Booster 7 is nearing the completion of its test campaign. What follows might be a 22 engine static fire, and then finally the full 33 engines

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:14:12 2022 No.15025903 >>15025897 Ironically, very possible within 2 weeks. I think they're either 1 step away from a last test or may possibly be ready for launch now (just wiating on FAA approval).

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:16:54 2022 No.15025909 >>15025903 Nah they still need the 33 engine test and then a full stack WDR

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:17:08 2022 No.15025910 >>15025868 Russians should never be allowed in space again. All of their rockets should be shot down. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if Putin wanted to weaponize space. The Chinese also shouldn't be allowed. Hopefully their moon base is sabotaged.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:17:28 2022 No.15025911 Starlink is the one thing in the space industry that was MUCH quicker than I thought it'd back in 2010. Genuinely thought giga constellations were done for good in the foreseeable future.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:18:16 2022 No.15025913 File: 931 KB, 1600x800, 1657124234733.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15025910 Space should be weaponized, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:18:18 2022 No.15025914 >>15025897 Best case scenario: sometime this month Likely scenario: February/March 2023

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:18:42 2022 No.15025915

>>15025899
I don’t disagree. But you’ll never be able to throttle someone like china or india or russia doing it.
Honestly this is unrealistic but I think oversight is good with special permission given to spacex to basically do whatever the fuck they want. They are superior to everyone else

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:19:58 2022 No.15025917 File: 112 KB, 1024x723, 9D7DC9E0-E482-41E5-A357-FE67C197A6BC.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15025910 I know you’re baiting but Russia has turned out to be incredibly pathetic in both spaceflight and warfare

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:21:03 2022 No.15025920 >>15025917 >Russia has turned out to be incredibly pathetic in both spaceflight and warfare I know.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:21:56 2022 No.15025921 >>15025915 Very true about China. They have publicly announced their plans to build megaconstellations. That’s honestly one of the reasons why Starlink has gotten so much leeway - even if Starlink is stopped, someone else will just do it

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:23:58 2022 No.15025925

>>15025910
Russia? Yeah I agree. China? Their programs are based, I wish their government was less gay and we could afford to do joint missions without worrying about chink faggotry. They seem to be completely in it for the science. I think the people doing ASAT shit are different from the people just trying to build a station and obtain mars samples and whatnot

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:26:09 2022 No.15025928

>>15025915
>with special permission given to spacex to basically do whatever the fuck they want
The problem is that China/whoever will use that as an excuse to do whatever the fuck *they* want without the same care that SpaceX will provide. They want to portray the US as the responsible adult while China and others are still blowing up satellites for fun, and part of that is demonstrating their eagerness to regulate mega-constellations.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:26:18 2022 No.15025929

>>15025925
Tbh aside from oxygen rich stages combustion tech Russia has nothing to offer the world with spaceflight anymore. It’s not even a Ukraine war thing, they just have horrible corruption in general. I feel bad for Russian astronauts and spaceflight fans

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:27:43 2022 No.15025930 >>15025921 >They have publicly announced their plans to build megaconstellations At this point China have publicly announced their plans to do everything the US is doing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:27:46 2022 No.15025931 >>15025877 this is so fucking embarrassing for spacex it's unreal (dont reply to me)

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:27:48 2022 No.15025932 >>15025925 I’d feel better about Chinese spaceflight if they could responsibly deorbit their crap.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:28:30 2022 No.15025934 >>15025909 Musk said a "maybe" on that 33 test. Not a given.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:29:50 2022 No.15025937 >>15025931 don't reply to me fag

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:31:01 2022 No.15025939

>>15025932
They’ll get there in time. I think people are quick to blow it out of proportion and make it a way bigger deal than it really is. Skylab wasn’t exactly the safest deorbit. If the russians really did fuck off with their half of the ISS and refused to give us a final reboost or correction burn we would have no way of controlling where it went. Hopefully the chinks make a move toward safer deorbits in general though, just befuase it’s the more responsible thing to do

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:31:23 2022 No.15025940 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtOqU2o81iI Tangent Tesla Semi live in 30 mins (+ 20 mins of late music) Probably too tangent, but might as well share, just in case.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:31:40 2022 No.15025942 >>15025934 It would be a bit stupid of them not to

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:31:59 2022 No.15025943 >>15025932 >waaaaaaaaaaa a chinese booster might burn up on my head fuck off you huge pussy faux outrage NIGGER i'm so tired of twitter trannies whining about some gay rocket burning up in the air. IT'S LITERALLY NOTHING

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:33:00 2022 No.15025945

>>15025942
Not necessarily. The possibility that 33 engine might damage the concrete is there. In such an event, you can either delay the launch by months or launch it and repair the concrete after launch.

If the vehicle/engine/system are fine, then the concrete damage may not be a critical issue.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:35:07 2022 No.15025947

>>15025945
Considering SLS absolutely fucked up the launch tower, I don't think it's a huge deal. It's concrete, it can't be that expensive. As long as it doesn't launch a huge chunk of concrete into something important it seems fine to ignore it for the first launch.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:35:54 2022 No.15025948 File: 759 KB, 7201x2059, sol system map.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] in what orbit would you park your space colony

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:37:18 2022 No.15025951 >>15025947 I mean isn't that exactly the problem, concrete shrapnel fucking shit up already happened at some point if I remember correctly not to mention it will slow things down reusable rockets, but one-use concrete launch pads, lmao

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:37:28 2022 No.15025952 >>15025948 >planets/orbit not to scale

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:39:08 2022 No.15025953 >>15025937 stop

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:40:03 2022 No.15025955 >>15025953 niggers tongue my anus

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:40:49 2022 No.15025956 >>15025925 China is complicit in russias crimes. They must be destroyed.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:40:53 2022 No.15025957

>>15025943
Gay post.
>>15025939
My perspective is that it’s not hard for them to do and there’s really no reason for them not to do it, and it reflects a bad culture in their industry. The reporting on it, like most reporting, is indeed alarmist and retarded. But it was really funny when there was all that drama about spacex crashing a rocket into the moon and polluting it with evil billionaire capitalism, and then it turned out to be Chinese and the reporting just stopped.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:42:39 2022 No.15025960 >>15025955 shut up

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:43:23 2022 No.15025963 File: 61 KB, 1000x512, Spacebus.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] never forget what they took from you

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:43:25 2022 No.15025964 File: 19 KB, 392x386, vulcanoids orbits.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15025948 Pinbacker had the right idea

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:44:47 2022 No.15025967 >>15025957 >Gay post Not an argument

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:46:04 2022 No.15025971 File: 1.17 MB, 1469x979, 1647450627560.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15025963 I didn't

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:53:46 2022 No.15025975 >>15025952 ok fag just for u nvm I got a "image appears corrupt" for sending a 1x100000 jpeg

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 00:57:36 2022 No.15025979 >>15025967 Yes it is. My argument is that your post is gay.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:00:28 2022 No.15025981 >>15025979 No it really isn't and you can stop making these pathetic posts. Really not a good look

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:01:19 2022 No.15025984 >>15025957 I think you have it backwards, wasn’t it a chinese stage that ended up being a F9 stage? Or did we shift timelines Note: haley’s comet did NOT hit the moon where I’m from

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:01:39 2022 No.15025986 >>15025981 Gay post.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:02:02 2022 No.15025989 >>15025951 Retard math but they were able to fire 11 engines for 13 seconds. 33 engines for only 3 or 4 seconds seems like less work desu. 11X33 = 143 Raptor seconds 33X4 = 132 Raptor seconds

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:03:09 2022 No.15025990 I still can’t believe SpaceX won the HLS competition

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:05:01 2022 No.15025993 File: 2.48 MB, 1280x720, 1493595448811.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15025948 Sydney

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:06:29 2022 No.15025995

>>15025990
Pretty insane
I guess that’s what happens when congress gives you a few crumpled bills and asks for a lander, and one of the bidders is overcharging the fuck out of their POS while the other can’t even make it to the moon and you’re left with only one option that actually works. SO surprising this didn’t end up as a boeing or natty team gibs program though like holy shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:06:32 2022 No.15025996 >>15025993 holy kino

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:07:50 2022 No.15025997 File: 1.71 MB, 3062x1957, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ready for more Musk kino? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtOqU2o81iI

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:11:02 2022 No.15026003 >>15025997 Can’t wait to be plowed into by one of these with a driver sleep behind the wheel in autopilot mode. The lawsuit money will pay for my starship ticket to mars

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:11:45 2022 No.15026004 >>15025986 Yet another non-argument. I can go all day baby

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:12:37 2022 No.15026007 >ELON BEHIND THE WHEEL

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:12:58 2022 No.15026009 >>15026003 It will pay for your funeral

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:13:32 2022 No.15026010
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>>15025995
>Dynetics’ ALPACA couldn’t even land
>The Dynetics team’s Assesment on the HLS document has a link to a 5th grader website about how Force = Mass X Acceleration
What a fucking time

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:16:00 2022 No.15026013 >>15026007 thank goodness he stopped, it was iffy for a second there

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:16:35 2022 No.15026016 Holy shit this is “group presentation but no one has actually done anything” tier lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:17:33 2022 No.15026017 >>15026010 >negative mass budget honestly I'm convinced they were just put in to make the national team's shit look acceptable

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:18:06 2022 No.15026018 I swear if Elon hired a public speaking coach he'd be so much more impactful

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:18:33 2022 No.15026019 >>15026016 lol this is how most of elon presentations are

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:19:30 2022 No.15026021 File: 1.16 MB, 3327x1545, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Terrestrial

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:19:33 2022 No.15026022

>>15026017
Kek. What’s weird is that if you visit the JSC mock up facility they have full sided trainers for alpaca and national team but not starship. Those are still there to this day btw. They also still have the space shuttle trainer. I wonder when they will trash it all and finally set up the Starship trainer

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:19:38 2022 No.15026023 >Roadster has been memoryholed Fuck

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:20:27 2022 No.15026024 >>15026023 its over

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:20:34 2022 No.15026025 >>15026021 They have a flying carpet now?!?!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:20:44 2022 No.15026026 the neuralink presentation was so disappointing. they havent made any meaningful progress in years. it feels like tesla is the same way. at least spacex breaks the mold..

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:21:00 2022 No.15026028

>>15025963
Someone really need to explain me the meme of supersonic air launch. You’ll spend 10 billion building a plane that eek out Mach 3 and will give you at most 2 km/s of dV for an insanely volume-restricted (so hydrolox is harder) S2 that can’t be much heavier than 50 tons

Only way I can see it is if you have a Nuclear thermal powered rocket which struggled to get a good enough TWR

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:21:30 2022 No.15026032 >>15026026 I wasn't a huge fan of the presentation either, but they've made incredible strides since 2018

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:22:53 2022 No.15026034 the existing electric trucks are about to get humiliated

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:23:20 2022 No.15026035 >>15025929 >I feel bad for Russian astronauts and spaceflight fans ESA astronauts have it worse.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:26:55 2022 No.15026039 >>15025929 We still need to find the few remaining 80 yo soviet 60s nuclear thermal rocket engineer and extract what the FUCK they saw from their brain

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:28:18 2022 No.15026040 >Falcon Heavy's first payload: Tesla Roadster >Starships's first payload: Tesla Semi? just imagine lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:30:03 2022 No.15026045 >>15026040 would be based and I wouldn't be surprised if that happens

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:32:30 2022 No.15026047 File: 1.03 MB, 3370x1791, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is this actually impressive?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:33:31 2022 No.15026048 File: 11 KB, 285x177, 1669944801840..jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026039 Let the granpas rest. Their successors are working on the TEM, aka the nuclear icebreaker of cislunar space.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:35:28 2022 No.15026051 >>15026047 Yes because everyone said it was impossible. https://www.autoevolution.com/news/daimler-trucks-executive-if-tesla-semi-delivers-something-has-passed-us-by-123749.html

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:36:20 2022 No.15026052 So.. who will build the first mecha, Tesla or SpaceX?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:36:28 2022 No.15026053 >>15026048 >12 KB

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:38:39 2022 No.15026054 >1MW charger Holy shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:40:13 2022 No.15026056 nuclear starships when?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:40:26 2022 No.15026057 >i'm actually a fan of nuclear

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:41:07 2022 No.15026058 >>15026057 i don't feel so good, solarbros

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:41:37 2022 No.15026059 just realized they’re standing on the bed of the pepsi truck lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:41:39 2022 No.15026060 >Couldn't afford Coke It's unironically fucking over

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:41:46 2022 No.15026061 >>15025684 Asking non-rhetorically, what's the point? I know Firefly and Virgin Orbit at the very least do the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:43:17 2022 No.15026064 File: 672 KB, 1920x1040, 281145E4-EA44-464C-948F-A896B8E909FF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Cokefags absolutely BTFO, pepsi is the drink of the stars

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:44:04 2022 No.15026066 it's over

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:44:24 2022 No.15026067 >>15026060 >>15026064 wasn’t musk pumping up diet coke not 24 hrs ago? Lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:44:49 2022 No.15026068 File: 993 KB, 1408x1056, AT field Pepsiman.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026064 Submit to PEPSI

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:45:16 2022 No.15026069 >>15026052 SpaceX doesn't really have the relevant experience for that

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:46:15 2022 No.15026070 File: 3.05 MB, 1920x1196, 1661155003553.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026048 Retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:46:24 2022 No.15026071 ngl the interior of that semi looks comfy af

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:49:20 2022 No.15026072

>>15026071
It's pretty great, the center seating position is such an awesome move. Tesla's greatest skill might be being able to not give a fuck about legacy ICE design. The only reason a driver ever sat off to the side was because the transmission is in the way, if you're getting rid of the transmission, move the seat back to where it should be. The design is way better than I was expecting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:51:45 2022 No.15026074 File: 888 KB, 2560x1594, 2560px-Two_configurations_layouts_%22Zeus%22_nuclear_space_tug_on_MAKS-2021_airshow.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026053 Better res

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:52:15 2022 No.15026075 just sold all my tesola stock

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:55:36 2022 No.15026078 >>15026072 What about the mirrors, or having the road line on sight.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 01:55:49 2022 No.15026079 live in 6 hours https://youtu.be/KHKkPAvl0y8

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:04:24 2022 No.15026092 >>15026079 But Hakuto R has no launch date right now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:08:21 2022 No.15026095 >>15026074 >>15026070 >has radiators but no propellant tanks

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:08:49 2022 No.15026096 File: 2.03 MB, 3000x1993, 1656239247784.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026079 >girls using anime avatars to watch rockets launch random satellites You think this is how he envisioned spaceflight in the 2020s?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:11:31 2022 No.15026100 >>15026096 I don't think it's what he would have predicted, but I can't believe that von Braun would dislike anyone who was that excited about rockets.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:12:04 2022 No.15026101 File: 2.55 MB, 1898x2604, japan didnt change.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026096 Yeah

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:13:22 2022 No.15026106 >>15026096 I think he'd at least be happy that rocket launches have become so common that there's a following for their broadcasts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:15:01 2022 No.15026110 File: 346 KB, 1280x720, waterfox_iSeukDhcoT.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:15:41 2022 No.15026112 >>15026096 No but I think he'd be happy about the interest in it, if a little confused.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:19:08 2022 No.15026116 >>15026096 He would be too baffled looking at how we are struggling to just go back to the moon before anything else.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:22:21 2022 No.15026118 File: 371 KB, 1280x720, waterfox_tx85wI5FnN.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:22:44 2022 No.15026119 >>15025948 Los Dos

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:26:39 2022 No.15026127 File: 9 KB, 238x192, 1657360463623.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why doesn't the asteroid belt have an actual name like the Kuiper belt?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:26:49 2022 No.15026128 >>15025948 This photo is so embarrassingly not to scale

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:28:03 2022 No.15026130 >>15026127 it hasnt been discovered yet

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:28:28 2022 No.15026131 >>15026128 Okay?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:30:07 2022 No.15026137 >>15026128 Why would it be to scale?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:30:39 2022 No.15026138 >>15026127 kek, you are right. Also, the name "Local Group" is lame as well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:31:28 2022 No.15026140 >>15026096 >girls Anon...

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:31:42 2022 No.15026141 https://youtu.be/-tThnSh7mYk

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:33:52 2022 No.15026146 >>15026138 While we're at it, "Moon" is a pretty shit name for a moon. You would not call your dog "Dog," unless you were retarded or something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:34:24 2022 No.15026147 >>15026146 It's agreed that the Moon's actual name is Luna.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:35:18 2022 No.15026148 >>15026146 "Moon" was stolen by the other moons you dumb retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:37:35 2022 No.15026150 >>15026053 The budget for a higher-resolution image has unfortunately disappeared. There will be an investigation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:38:46 2022 No.15026153 >>15026146 The Earth. The Moon. The Sun. Capitalization and direct articles matter.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:39:59 2022 No.15026154 >>15026141 For years I thought something as transcendental as say Beethoven's 9th symphony should be played during the first Martian manned landing, but reconsidering it now I'd say this actually fits better.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:40:23 2022 No.15026157 File: 1 KB, 548x363, mooninites.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026146 Do not denigrate the name of our moon which is "The Moon".

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:40:41 2022 No.15026158 >>15026153 RETARD. That's exactly my point. Naming something what it is is stupid. The Moon is a proper noun. A moon is just a noun. When the Moon is a moon it's just lazy naming.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:45:13 2022 No.15026167 >>15026146 I propose changing the category names "Super-Earths" and "Hot Jupiters". Maybe something like Super-Mercuries or Hot 51 Pegasis Bs are better options.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:45:32 2022 No.15026168 >>15026141 lynchian

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:51:13 2022 No.15026176 >>15026168 I mean it's bad but I wouldn't lynch him for it that's a bit harsh

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:51:19 2022 No.15026177 >conservative estimates put us at early 2030s for landing on mars what if it's more like 2040s?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:55:23 2022 No.15026183 >>15026167 >Super Earths fat fucks >Hot Jupiters PILFs

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:56:57 2022 No.15026187 >>15026167 >Hot Jupiters Steamy braps

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:57:04 2022 No.15026188

>>15026158
Other moons are named by analogy with our moon; they are 'moons' because we have The Moon. 'Moon' is of Germanic origin, and other Germanic languages do the same thing i.e.
>Titan ist... Mond des Planeten Saturn
>Titan er planeten Saturns største måne,
>Titan of Titaan, ook wel Saturnus VI, is de grootste maan van Saturnus
The alternative would be to refer to everything else as a satellite, which Germanic languages have decided not to do.
>Naming something what it is is stupid.
The White House. The Pentagon. The Leaning Tower of Pisa. The Great Barrier Reef. The Phantom of the Opera. The Big Bang. The Solar System.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:57:12 2022 No.15026189 >>15026177 >Always 20 years away makes me wanna kill myself

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 02:57:33 2022 No.15026191 >>15026177 >early 2030's >conservative estimates

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:02:22 2022 No.15026196 >>15026150 Topkek

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:02:28 2022 No.15026197

>>15026188
>The White House
A building
>The Pentagon
see supra
>The Leaning Tower of Pisa
see supra
>The Great Barrier Reef
A reef system
>The Phantom of the Opera
A play
>The Big Bang
A theory of the universe's formation
>The Solar System
A planetary system

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:05:06 2022 No.15026199 >>15026197 >You a faggot

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:06:03 2022 No.15026200 >>15026061 Rocketlab is competent and actually gets natsec contracts and doesn’t blow up valuable weather satellites

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:08:39 2022 No.15026203

>>15026199
The point is to use the broadest category for something with as few qualifiers as possible. Then if it's named the same thing as the category it's a shit name. There are billions of buildings out there, but only one is a famous leaning tower in Pisa, hence the name is adequate. But there are plenty of moons and yet one is simply called the Moon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:09:39 2022 No.15026204 >>15026200 Well yeah, I mean the point of all the natsec subsidiaries

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:11:49 2022 No.15026206

>>15026061
It's basically immigration/tariff/ITAR fraud. They can keep being foreigner owned and operated as long as they have a compliant subsidiary that's US soil and US citizens only. Hobbitlab does this because of New Zealand. Firefly does it because of shady eastern European connections, which is why I think Northrop-Grumman will buy the company and expel them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:11:56 2022 No.15026207 >>15026197 By that logic, >The Moon a natural satellite.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:14:24 2022 No.15026208 >>15026207 Except there are still dozens of moons in our solar system and untold gazillions in the entire universe.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:17:15 2022 No.15026212

>>15026203
>>15026207
>>15026208
The Moon was discovered first, and when the others were found it became a name for the category. Let's just start to call Luna so that it is unique and consistent with "Lunar", maybe do the same to Earth and call it "Terra".

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:18:58 2022 No.15026215
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>>15026203
>there are plenty of moons and yet one is simply called the Moon
The 'broad category' is 'natural satellites'. Knowledge of the Moon's existence precedes (by a few thousand years) knowledge of anything else in the category, while being both the most important and the exemplar within that category.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:20:04 2022 No.15026217

>>15026212
>The Moon was discovered first, and when the others were found it became a name for the category
Yeah that's the problem.
>Let's just start to call Luna so that it is unique and consistent with "Lunar
Yes
>maybe do the same to Earth and call it "Terra".
Earth isn't a name for other planets you tard

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:22:38 2022 No.15026220

>>15026204
Rocket lab might be because they’re kiwis
Maybe it’s an ITAR thing to keep them segregated, so the employees who couldn’t get clearance for a US defence project are not even in the same corporation, technically. Though I’ve been told by someone working at rocket lab that as a US citizen I might not even be allowed to work at their kiwi facilities because of ITAR, so I won’t pretend to really under ITAR.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:24:25 2022 No.15026221 >>15026217 >Earth isn't a name for other planets you tard It's inconsistent because all other planets are named after greco-roman gods, and also because of the adjective "terrestrial".

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:25:19 2022 No.15026222

>>15026208
And only one of them is The Moon. If anything, it's even less ambiguous in English than in German, where everything in the category can be 'Mond'.
>>15026212
Calling it Luna doesn't resolve it, in addition to being Latin rather than Germanic. There are languages that can use a variant of lun- for any natural satellite.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:30:02 2022 No.15026226 File: 242 KB, 1086x559, vhW1qt364086.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026212 >>15026222 >>15026217 For example, the French space agency page on the Cassini-Huygens mission refers to 'lunes' of Saturn.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:31:32 2022 No.15026229 >>15026221 >because of the adjective "terrestrial" the galilean system would like a word with you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:32:41 2022 No.15026231 >>15026226 >France literally negative relevance. When I start agreeing with the French I second guess myself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:36:17 2022 No.15026235 File: 216 KB, 1125x664, 52223C8E-2E85-4B4F-A82F-4B1F697C5691.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Atlas V Phase II

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:36:36 2022 No.15026236 How would you name an exoplanet if you had the chance? I'd like to use the names of biblical characters, mainly angels.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:39:07 2022 No.15026238

>>15026236
Conduct thorough research of my area's indigenous people, consult with my university's heads of indigenous relations and astronomy, talk with local indigenous representatives or tribal leaders, and then name it after an obscure character from the Iliad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:39:16 2022 No.15026239 >>15026236 The current system of [star name][ordinal letter] works fine for dots on a map. I wouldn't bother to name an exoplanet I couldn't see in some detail.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:41:35 2022 No.15026240 >>15026238 I'd like indigenous names if there wasn't this much red tape. >>15026239 Fine but imagine if you just had the opportunity.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:48:00 2022 No.15026249 >>15026240 Honestly the names themselves are usually good. It's the constant virtue signalling and autofellatio complete with dragging out some casino manag—sorry tribal elder for a bullshit ceremony that gets to me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:48:03 2022 No.15026250 >>15026235 Aerojet Rocketdyne fucked up the future history of spaceflight by getting too greedy and bidding AR1 too high

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:49:34 2022 No.15026251 >>15026236 Name them after obscure references to science fiction or fantasy settings or characters, or dungeons and dragons gods and devils and demons etc.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:51:52 2022 No.15026254 >>15026251 Tolkien lore, can’t go wrong

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:52:30 2022 No.15026255

>>15026177
You though that is bad
https://astronomy.com/news/2022/05/first-human-landing-on-an-asteroid-by-2073
>The Artemis project will send humans to Mars in about 2037 when the radius of human activity will increase to 0.3763 AU.
>This model earmarks 2073 for a crewed asteroid belt mission, 2103 for humans to visit Jupiter and its satellites as well as 2132 for a mission to Saturn.
>But the key message from Jiang and co is that these missions could take place in the not-too-distant future.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:53:53 2022 No.15026257 >>15026222 Calling it Luna resolves the problem in English, which is all that matters.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:55:39 2022 No.15026259 >>15026257 What problem?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 03:59:07 2022 No.15026263 >>15026259 Naming a dog "Dog"

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:02:58 2022 No.15026270 Yeah so basically everyone is just gonna keep calling it the moon Ugh I know I know I'm just not calling it (the moon) luna is all

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:05:36 2022 No.15026276 >not calling it Selene in everyday conversation

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:12:44 2022 No.15026284 The Moon is capitalized because it's special. It's actually just a large chunk of the Earth that somehow split off and then decided to stick around to generate tides and shift Earth's crust around.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:15:36 2022 No.15026287 >>15026259 Having an awkward "the" hanging around when you want to talk about your home

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:15:57 2022 No.15026288 >>15026284 >The Moon is capitalized because it's special. okay, Anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:18:14 2022 No.15026293 Nobody ever talks about Theia, the planet that hit Earth and got swallowed when the Moon was ejected.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:18:35 2022 No.15026294 >>15026288 It's like saying "Mom" when referring to your mother, and saying "mom" when talking about mothers in general.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:21:30 2022 No.15026300 >>15026263 >>15026287 You Lunafags are the definition of ‘looking for a problem to be mad at’

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:22:30 2022 No.15026302 >>15025993 first time I even noticed the opera house

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:24:32 2022 No.15026303 >>15026300 That's how humanity moves forward. Finding stuff to get mad about and then doing something about it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:24:40 2022 No.15026304 >>15026003 If it were in autopilot mode the truck would stop before hitting you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:25:04 2022 No.15026306 >>15025660 Was this significant or not?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:25:13 2022 No.15026307 >>15026303 Exactly. That's why we're going back to The Moon!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:25:34 2022 No.15026308 >>15026306 No

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:25:41 2022 No.15026309 File: 286 KB, 1080x1080, real_nasa_diversity_scientists.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026004 It's not getting less gay

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:25:50 2022 No.15026310 >>15026306 >anything from a ""science reporter"" regarding quantum mechanics no

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:26:12 2022 No.15026312 >>15026293 >Theia We're part of a diaspora right now, but as soon as we find the means to do it we're gonna claim some territory and establish a new empire somewhere in the inner Solar system. Then, full nuclear strike towards Earth.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:27:06 2022 No.15026313 >>15026306 No. They didn’t create a wormhole, the simulated one. It just proves that their model of a wormhole was stable in the system they were modeling You got filtered by a gay headline

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:27:40 2022 No.15026315 >>15026312 >Cassus belli: we are the legitimate successors to a planet you destroyed 4 billion years ago Honestly there have been flimsier ones throughout history

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:28:07 2022 No.15026316 >>15026309 >those eyes Grey aliens confirmed real and reproduced with humans

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:29:49 2022 No.15026318 >>15026309 I can fix her

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:32:09 2022 No.15026319

>>15026306
yes because it's real evidence that ER = EPR, meaning that quantum entanglement and wormholes might be the same concept, and also that the holographic principle might be legit. it can offer new insights into communications and the physics of wormholes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:35:36 2022 No.15026323 >>15026319 Yes this is the conclusion the author desperately wanted to make

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:36:46 2022 No.15026325 >>15026319 >quantum entanglement and wormholes might be the same thing How would that work at a macro level?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:37:03 2022 No.15026326 >>15026306 When they do it again for 4D de Sitter space it might be.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:40:30 2022 No.15026333 >>15026325 easy: it won't

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 04:54:21 2022 No.15026346

>>15026319
oh and i guess it added more value to quantum computers and people are desperate to find uses for them

>>15026325
idk maybe better communications using quantum entanglement. remember the chinese put up a satellite like that, so maybe we'll see more satellites with the tech going up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:07:24 2022 No.15026354 So has any /sfg/ anon actually seen starship in person besides the anon from early general history who probably got fired for leaking photos?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:12:33 2022 No.15026358 >>15026354 im planning on going when they launch

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:15:54 2022 No.15026364 >>15026354 Some fag posted pictures from Boca Chica once, idr when. I’m going to go sometime next year just to gawp. Shame I never went during the hop era, it was just a few hours drive. Could have made day trips for it

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:19:04 2022 No.15026367 >>15026284 it's only special to urfers

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:21:54 2022 No.15026368 >>15026358 same good time to be unemployed

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:29:10 2022 No.15026373 >>15026354 No one has the balls to trespass like that one spic did back when SN11 was on the pad

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:29:56 2022 No.15026375
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I know you'll either say it's popsci or that you've watched it already but
>le cool exoplanets!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTHj_pvEYYE

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:32:35 2022 No.15026377

>>15026373
It was still within the realm of reason back then. Now they’ve got a whole setup and crossing any fence would mean a) hundreds of workers would see you no matter the hour of the day, and b) security guards would probably just shoot you because texas is based

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:34:06 2022 No.15026379 >>15026263 There is only one Moon, there are millions of dogs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:38:56 2022 No.15026383 >>15026379 There are millions of dogs, but there is only one The Dog

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:39:25 2022 No.15026384 >>15026368 I was a NEET for the past year, thinking it would be great since that would mean I get to watch Starship launch. I'm starting a job next year, and knowing my luck it will launch then.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:41:35 2022 No.15026385 >>15026384 you can just watch it on the job :)

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:42:54 2022 No.15026386 >>15026384 So it was you jinxed the whole year

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:43:05 2022 No.15026387 >>15026383 Yes, he's mine and he is precious.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:53:18 2022 No.15026391 File: 983 KB, 1170x851, 46FA28C9-A3E0-46F2-A665-6E549F409328.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:55:01 2022 No.15026393 File: 978 KB, 1170x861, 10FFDE21-C1BB-4ECA-83DB-8312945D4880.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026391 evropa clipper It’s amazing how sleek and sexy USA space tech looks compared to others’, such as russia’s hardware

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:56:14 2022 No.15026394 >>15026391 >>15026393 Can't wait to see all the kino pics this will take

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:56:17 2022 No.15026395 bros i can no longer like space X because elon is a sellout to jews with his tweets to kanye, NASA is too diversity pilled so Roscosmos it is for me :(

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:56:48 2022 No.15026396 >>15026257 just go backwards and name it in some obscure or difficult language >Kuu >Hold >Φεγγάρι >Muuyaw >Mēness >Maan

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:57:10 2022 No.15026397

>>15026393
This should unironically be an SLS block 2 payload with a lander included. If they’re already dead set on pushing space launch system further then it’s worth the wait here on the ground for the faster transit time you’ll get in return. It’ll be fine don’t worry about the vibrations

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 05:59:29 2022 No.15026398 >>15026395 back to /pol/ you retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 06:00:17 2022 No.15026400 >>15026395 go guzzle some yoohoo on your containment board faggot

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 06:01:20 2022 No.15026402 >>15026395 There's rocketlab

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 06:03:24 2022 No.15026403 >>15026128 If it was to scale, you would be scrolling for the rest of your life and you might make it to the Moon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 06:04:24 2022 No.15026404 >>15026146 That's why Earth's actual name is Terra and the Moon's actual name is Luna. Earth & Moon are just slang.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 06:05:31 2022 No.15026406 >>15026404 Please tell me you’re not being serious anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 06:06:34 2022 No.15026407 >>15026397 That would imply the existence of advanced boosters (two super heavies strapped to the side no doubt)

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 06:08:23 2022 No.15026408 >>15026407 They’re already fabricating BOLE boosters. Have been for some time now

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 06:09:46 2022 No.15026409

>>15026377
Believe it or not, I've thought out a plan that might actually work. But I have no intention of sharing it because I don't know what crazy mother fucker is reading these threads and might actually attempt to pull it off. It's still within the realm of reason, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 06:14:07 2022 No.15026414 >>15026409 Coward

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 06:14:46 2022 No.15026415 >>15026408 Damn, my bad. How much do they increase the payload? One of the big ones back then wasn't powerful enough to do a single launch landing with Orion, iirc

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 06:15:29 2022 No.15026416 >>15026395 What?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 06:28:32 2022 No.15026427 >booster 7 is being taken back to the production site welp, 2022 is out

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 06:28:52 2022 No.15026429 >>15026402 thanks, might follow them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 06:33:52 2022 No.15026433 File: 2.43 MB, 1618x2238, slsatthepad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026427 HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 07:05:28 2022 No.15026460 >>15026427 It’s been out for a while lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 07:31:13 2022 No.15026473 >>15026427 For me 2022 was out once I realized this was just static fire simulator. Only two things of note happened since SN15; full stack and first booster SF If the first OFT isn’t successful, even 2023 might be out

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 08:12:46 2022 No.15026498 >>15026473 How?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 08:19:01 2022 No.15026502 >>15026498 Then we'll run into the same circus of testing, figuring out what went wrong on the OFT, test the new booster and SS, then try again and see if it works this time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 08:35:12 2022 No.15026508 Does SpaceX have any plans for a recoverable Falcon 9 second stage in case Starship development takes much longer than expected?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 08:40:14 2022 No.15026515 >>15026508 Musk is probably too autistic about Mars to consider this. Honestly, it would have been the financially responsible thing to do. If Starship fails, SpaceX goes to the trash, but if it works, they will change the world.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 08:45:18 2022 No.15026519 >>15026515 If Starship fails, could they not just keep using Falcon 9, it's not like there's really anything better around yet. So they'll still have the rocket market cornered even if they end up dicking around with Starship for a decade

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 08:46:45 2022 No.15026521 File: 28 KB, 400x400, The Eclipsed - Ground Control.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Saw this while visiting /mu/, and I wondered what SFG's album would look like And I don't mean the space nazis one

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 08:47:39 2022 No.15026522 >>15026519 Well, they would have ended up wasting a lot of money into a project that went nowhere. I don't think F9/FH/Dragon would just disappear, but I could see the company changing leadership or something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 08:48:22 2022 No.15026523 >>15026519 Blue Origin. With all those Bezos bucks they'll eventually get New Glenn working. Also Jarvis will give them a reusable S2.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 08:48:28 2022 No.15026524 >>15026508 There was talk after red dragon was killed, but didn't really get too far.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 08:48:40 2022 No.15026525 >>15026521 >what SFG's album would look like a picture of a starship tank doing nothing

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 08:54:20 2022 No.15026531 >>15026391 >>15026393 How do you clean up clean ruums?

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 08:57:04 2022 No.15026534

>>15026508
I'm pretty sure they did but abandoned it.
>>15026515
>>15026519
>If Starship fails
It can't.
Worst case scenario still leaves a system far superior to anything else out there. Even fully expendable would be on par launch-cost with Falcon 9. But there's no reason to believe that reuse of Superheavy would also fail (in this worst case scenario they switch to using legs for it). They could still get Starship down to say $25 million per launch. Even in the worst case scenario Starship is still more than an order of magnitude improvement over Falcon 9. Knowing that, just think about how revolutionary it's going to be when it succeeds.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 08:58:16 2022 No.15026535 File: 385 KB, 1288x1288, Silver Birds - The Long Con.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026525 >a picture of a starship tank doing nothing

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 08:59:54 2022 No.15026537

>>15026534
>just think about how revolutionary it's going to be when it succeeds.
Not even thinking about Mars. Just wonder about permanent Moon bases, ambitious and FAST probes, giant space telescopes.
The telescope that confirms ayys for the first time might be one launched from one or more Starships.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 09:00:56 2022 No.15026538 >>15026535 >the texas tank watching thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 09:02:59 2022 No.15026540 >>15026534 I just wonder, is there something that might just prevent it from working at all? Like if there's just too many powerful engines next to each other and the booster just keeps breaking every time. Have they tested firing all 33 engines yet?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 09:06:26 2022 No.15026543 >>15026540 One thing I fear is that there just won't exist a market for something like SS. Most satellites can be launched with smaller rockets, and space exploration (either manned or probes) is sparse and brings no profit to motivate the usage.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 09:08:30 2022 No.15026545 >>15026543 I assume NASA will still use it just to support it, isn't NASA the biggest customer of Falcon 9 as well. If it's better than F9, might as well use it even if it's overkill

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 09:15:10 2022 No.15026552 >>15026543 Markets appear if the cost benefit is there. I suspect there's huge potenitial for zero G manufcturing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 09:22:51 2022 No.15026558 >>15026543 Starship could still be cheaper than Falcon 9, both in cost per ton and absolute cost, even in an "only" partially reusable mode like Falcon 9's.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 09:23:04 2022 No.15026559 >>15026310 Quanta is the least worst science reporter.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 09:24:32 2022 No.15026561 >>15026558 I'm still skeptical of that. I feel the cost could be lowered to something like a hundred million, which is still far better than something like SLS.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 09:25:17 2022 No.15026563 >>15026146 You can pick between Moon, Luna, Earth I and Terra I retard, all 4 are equally scientifically valid

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 09:27:59 2022 No.15026565 >>15026226 Anon... this is a reference to The Tintin comic Destination Moon (Objectif Lune)

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 09:31:12 2022 No.15026570 >>15026561 How do you figure? The most expensive thing is going to be the engines, and the cost of the 42 engines for a whole stack is maybe $23 million assuming the vacuum raptors are a bit more expensive than normal ones.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 09:32:00 2022 No.15026574 >>15026236 Greco-Roman mythology name -> Biblical names -> European mythological name (both pre and post Christian) -> Quranic name -> non-European mythological and myth name

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 09:32:05 2022 No.15026575 so whats your excuse for not making your own knife rockets /sfg/?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEVPgnLbguI

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 09:32:36 2022 No.15026576 >>15026575 Don't need them yet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 09:48:19 2022 No.15026589 >>15026570 What is the price of refurbishment?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 09:52:14 2022 No.15026595 >>15026589 Significantly less than replacement.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 09:53:26 2022 No.15026596 File: 395 KB, 1899x1036, thomas the doom engine.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026575

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 10:11:13 2022 No.15026613 >>15026558 Yeah No lol, Starship S2 won’t be cheaper than a F9 S2, even in a non-reusable version

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 10:18:15 2022 No.15026619 File: 1.03 MB, 903x1016, 1502604138883.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026302

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 10:43:56 2022 No.15026638 >>15026589 Zero

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 10:52:19 2022 No.15026645 File: 226 KB, 1920x1513, sts071-s-072_large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026393 >It’s amazing how sleek and sexy USA space tech looks compared to others’, such as russia’s hardware Shuttle-Mir was quite the showcase of this

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 10:59:15 2022 No.15026651 >>15025948 am i retarded or is europa a moon of jupiter and not an asteroid?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 11:01:50 2022 No.15026653 >>15026047 Lol so it only works if going downhill ? Literally gaining charge coasting downhill to reach 500 miles....

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 11:07:00 2022 No.15026657 >>15026427 Meanwhile they keep lying, saying the FAA is holding em back

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 11:25:08 2022 No.15026673 >>15026653 Can’t tell if bait or srs

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 11:26:50 2022 No.15026675

However, an alternative Ariane 5 featuring a H205 central stage equipped with two HM-60 engines, adding 4 t to its LEO performance was considered not to be economically optimised for commercial launches by ESA [2]. Neither was such a dual engine stage seen as increasing to its reliability. With the added engine and its thrust also came added complexity and failure points, it was reasoned. Philippe Couillard later remarked: “With two engines, you also double the likelihood of problems”, although he did admit to having preferred a two-engined Ariane 5 first stage

Twin-Vulcan Ariane 5 with stretched (+30%) EPC was seriously considered during the Hermes mass creep, would have reached 25 tons LEO, in a ME version this would have beaten a Delta IV heavy to GTO (14.5 tons)

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 11:27:03 2022 No.15026676 >>15026673 Most people don't know how to read. So good chance the guy is actually seriously misreading it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 11:45:49 2022 No.15026686 >>15026047 It is. But they also didn't reveal what portion of the 81,000 lb was useful load.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 11:52:06 2022 No.15026693 ngl, the meltdown on /pol/ is hilarious

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 11:54:57 2022 No.15026697 don't reply to it, newfaggots

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 11:59:21 2022 No.15026708 File: 33 KB, 657x527, 12484859544.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026127 >The Moon >The Sun >The Earth >The Belt

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 12:13:37 2022 No.15026721 File: 21 KB, 108x99, 161857280282.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026653 >Fremont is 5000ft above sea level

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 12:22:48 2022 No.15026728 >>15026697 I won't be frequenting /pol/ for a while in light of all the recent drama

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 12:23:44 2022 No.15026730 >>15026693 What meltdown?

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 12:29:10 2022 No.15026740

>>15026730
black rapper man had an interview with school shooter denial host, where he said he loves the lad that allegedly baked 6 gorrillion non-goys, then went on twitter to post some indian symbols, so twitter man banned him, and now /pol/ is really mad

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 12:30:59 2022 No.15026742 >>15026740 Okay, but how is this related to spaceflight?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 12:35:06 2022 No.15026745 >>15026742 it sent my sides into orbit

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 12:44:04 2022 No.15026763 >>15026740 A lot of 1pbtids and lots of them all saying the same thing. I think it's another anti Musk shill raid.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 12:44:37 2022 No.15026768

>>15026010
Which humorously showed that the GAO people had 0 fucking clue what they were talking about and may have gotten a not insignificant part of the understanding from SXMR. "In order to enable a rocket to lift off from a launch pad, the action or thrust of the rocket must be greater than the mass of the rocket it is lifting." The issue with negative mass margins was that they don't have the required ΔV to complete the entire mission profile, not that they don't have the required TTW to take off from the Moon. And I mean if you don't have enough thrust to take off from the Moon, I would be more worried about landing in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 12:46:17 2022 No.15026771 >>15026768 SXMR?

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 12:47:56 2022 No.15026774
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>/sfg/ tries to go 1day without doomposting Starship challenge (Impossible)
Ok but real talk, it is disappointing that B7 testing has taken so long, but understand that a failure here could set the program back several months if it happens on or near the launch mount.
Also, we’ve been told since the start of the year that a 2022 launch was 50/50, Eric Berger hinted at it on a podcast, and a lot of leakers on Elle (L) 2 said the same.
Furthermore, we knew B7 would need extra work done because the outer 20 engines had incomplete shielding, so it would have to be rolled back eventually.
Ever since SLS flew /sfg/ has been in full Doomer mode about Starship.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 12:55:24 2022 No.15026781 File: 37 KB, 603x743, ChatGPT.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] We are safe for one year more at least. Can't even get basic details right.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 12:56:45 2022 No.15026782 >>15026774 Musk has been saying they want to be super safe with the orbital attempt. Also, I think that they have been pushing hard to ramp up production.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 12:59:02 2022 No.15026786

>>15026781
This is like something Tim Dodd would write

>>15026782
Yeah that’s true. SpaceX is actually aiming to be successful and not just “full send” a starship stack. It sounds like cope but for once they’re taking a note from the OldSpace playbook here.
S25 and B9 are pretty much done and waiting in the wings. S26 and 27 are almost done too although they’re expendable and purely meant to carry Starlinks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 13:01:04 2022 No.15026789 >>15026782 What ever happened to fail fast, fail often... :(

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 13:03:26 2022 No.15026792 >>15026789 1) A fully fueled Starship stack nuking the pad would set things back a year 2) NASA doesn’t want their launcher for their moon lander failing and has been doing regular HLS team tours and meetings monthly at Starbase.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 13:06:06 2022 No.15026798

>>15026786
I wouldn't even call it oldspace. The bottleneck is the OLM, and with each booster static fire that damages it, they are figuring better ways to make it. There are more tower segments in Florida, suggesting a second, or even possibly a third tower there, so 2-3 more OLMs, that will all benefit from the lessons learned right now.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 13:11:42 2022 No.15026805

>>15026798
Even in the throes of the SN8-15 days, SpaceX never exceeded 1 launch per month of a hopper prototype.
I am curious how the operational flow will change after Starship OFT-1. Will we see SpaceX go straight into a 33 engine booster static fire, or will they still do the 3-11-20-33 creep with multiple statics? Stuff like that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 13:17:02 2022 No.15026809 File: 1.57 MB, 2432x3178, 1590631493647.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026645 ISS will never have the soul that MIR did

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 13:17:45 2022 No.15026812
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>>15026805
Depends how quickly the Raptors, the booster itself and OLM that starts the outer engine rim become reliable. Pic related was from before /sfg/. Falcon9 used to scrub all the time, but now the whole system is mature, so there are barely any scrubs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 13:20:55 2022 No.15026816 File: 300 KB, 570x426, 1662469764600313.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Elon burned 11 SLS launches worth of finances so that he could tardwrangle negros posting spicy memes

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 13:23:38 2022 No.15026818 File: 98 KB, 1125x441, B4B4E401-B7DF-4C5B-B0C8-78D76623C80F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026816 I like Elon but I’ll never understand his Twitter obsession

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 13:29:38 2022 No.15026825 >>15026816 honestly it's kinda fun to watch the culture shock and shitshow resulting from it

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 13:31:29 2022 No.15026827 >>15026825 NTA but I’m worried Elon will burn all his bridges to the point Uncle Sam steps in and fucks him over

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 13:32:46 2022 No.15026828
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>>15026818
Considering how SpaceX is already doing laps around everyone in the world combined, pic related, even before Starship, which itself is very far ahead in its development, he probably needed something new to challenge him.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 13:34:35 2022 No.15026830 File: 51 KB, 1000x743, tesla.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026828 And this is for Tesla. And that video shows how crazy the factory is inside https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPnepYD2vic

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 13:40:54 2022 No.15026839 >>15026830 Not spaceflight related

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 13:43:08 2022 No.15026845 >>15026818 He went for the purchase after Babylon Bee was banned. I firmly believe he just wanted them reinstated because looking at their jokes was part of his morning shit ritual and without them he couldn't get 'in the groove'.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 13:48:38 2022 No.15026853 >>15026845 >>15026839

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 13:49:05 2022 No.15026854 Musk should've bought SLS instead.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 13:53:13 2022 No.15026858 >>15026854 I think twitter is more useful than SLS >>15026853 Suck my dick, anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 14:05:16 2022 No.15026864 File: 244 KB, 610x988, 000783.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/OneWeb/status/1598665151963619329

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 14:06:19 2022 No.15026866 File: 783 KB, 610x988, 000784.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026864

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 14:07:21 2022 No.15026869 File: 340 KB, 1254x1672, Fi-YBmOXgAMW22H.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026866

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 14:12:48 2022 No.15026878 File: 271 KB, 651x676, oneweb.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026864

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 14:14:23 2022 No.15026879 >>15026864 >>15026878 what did they mean by this

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 14:15:09 2022 No.15026881 File: 236 KB, 643x549, Screenshot_20221202_061456.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 14:15:59 2022 No.15026883 >>15026869 Launch music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u1kXAP8TSo

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 14:18:14 2022 No.15026886 >>15026881 how is astra doing these days? seems like nothing but setbacks and problems

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 14:19:47 2022 No.15026887 >>15026886 Hardship improves companies unless it kills them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 14:19:48 2022 No.15026888 File: 302 KB, 682x639, Screenshot_20221202_061911.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026886 https://twitter.com/Astra/status/1598681323866329089 Restructuring/focusing on core of the company/cutting bit of fat to save money/etc.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 14:33:29 2022 No.15026906

>>15026415
Saturn V is rated at 140 T to LEO

Right now SLS block 1 is rated at 95 T (shit)
Block 1B, with the addition of the EUS will supposedly be 105 T
And block 2 with the full outfit of EUS, new RS-25s, and BOLE boosters will approach 130T. So still shy of the Saturn V
Considering the fact that this rocket will probably never carry payloads other than Orion to gateway I’m not sure the money that is currently being sunk into all of this is worth it.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 14:38:27 2022 No.15026914

>>15026906
The purpose of BOLE is to just keep flying the dam thing. Shuttle SRB reuse didn’t save money but it did allow for components to be saved. All of that stuff is being thrown away with SLS to the point that they will simply not have anymore booster hardware in stock after Artemis VIII. Why this was allowed is beyond me.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 14:41:18 2022 No.15026920
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>>15026878
>>15026869
>>15026866
>>15026864
OneWeb worked with SpaceX only out of desperation, but it is still nice to see them being chivalrous.
It’s like how the official YouTube channel for Firefly Aerospace has a playlist for “greatest launches” and on there is the Falcon Heavy demo flight, and the Falcon 1 flight which saved SpaceX (flight 4).

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 14:42:19 2022 No.15026922 File: 263 KB, 1125x637, C29F827F-1204-4960-A6F8-817EB46F6E88.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026920 They also have the first successful RocketLab Electron flight too

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 14:45:55 2022 No.15026931 >>15026914 I simply cannot understand how the Saturn family was cheaper than current rockets. Isn’t the price supposed to go DOWN with time? We have worse capability and greater launch costs with each generation of NASA rockets; it’s astounding

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 14:50:49 2022 No.15026936 >>15026881 there is no way to sugarcoat this

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 14:51:53 2022 No.15026937 >>15026931 Most DoD payloads that fit on DIVH would also be able to fly on a Saturn IB, and you’d save about $90 million dollars hahahaha

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 14:57:30 2022 No.15026944 >>15026937 If you took a Saturn-IB and strapped on 4-5 of those little Atlas V GEM SRBs, you’d surpass the capabilities of Delta IV Heavy

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 15:02:30 2022 No.15026952 >>15026944 I think it’s pretty well understood that von Braun has been matched/surpassed only twice: by Energia and F9/FH. And it’s still arguable that be hasn’t been.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 15:08:30 2022 No.15026961 >>15026931 Saturn V wasn't exactly cheap either https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V#Cost But yeah, compared to SLS...

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 15:12:39 2022 No.15026968

>>15026774
It's the classic /sfg/ cycle
>Superheavy is gonna launch before SLS, Superheavy could launch now if not for the FAA, they're gonna do one static fire and launch, it's gonna happen RIGHT NOW
>Wtf there was a problem, how could this program take a normal amount of development time, I cannot believe SpaceX is only moving ten times faster than oldspace, not the twenty times faster I wanted, it's literally over.

We're going to go through the same cycle of massive hype when this thing finally launches, to the same cycle of doomposting once the first booster and Starship crash or are scrapped.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 15:14:12 2022 No.15026970
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>>15026521
/sfg/'s album already exists.

https://www.anrfactory.com/new-hampshire-based-singer-songwriter-jack-eppington-asks-us-to-work-together-on-were-gonna-fly-now/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tThnSh7mYk

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 15:16:22 2022 No.15026977

>>15026961
Of course. A lot of the technology that was needed didn’t even exist, hence why cost-plus contracting made sense. But the fact that it still came out cheaper than something like a modern “shuttle derived and therefore cheap!” POS hydromeme rocket is astounding
>>15026952
I’m sure you could connect enough dots from V2-F1-merlin, or plumbing, or tank design techniques, or SOMEthing to warrant saying Falcon is the spiritual successor to von Braun’s rockets

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 15:17:23 2022 No.15026979 >>15026970 They fly now?!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 15:22:58 2022 No.15026987 File: 1.43 MB, 1360x768, Cale in space.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026970 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfdQGCiydi0 My submission

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 15:28:19 2022 No.15026991 >>15026970 Jesus Christ I haven't listened to it since the first time it was posted and it's somehow worse than I remember

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 15:37:01 2022 No.15027004 B-21 unveiled today

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 15:54:28 2022 No.15027027

>>15026395
The laws of physics are basically reversible, right? So just look at it from a time-reversed perspective: they've been warmly welcomed by over 109 countries, where they regularly distributed money to most of the citizens every month and championed a return to traditional values.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 16:00:28 2022 No.15027045

>>15026543
There are already plans for massive constellations, some in progress, without the necessary launch capacity available.

Besides that, Elon is planning to use thousands of them, which is why they're being built in the first place. Without any market for them at all, they'd still get built. In the real world, there is a market and it will obviously grow in response to costs being reduced by several orders of magnitude.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 16:04:13 2022 No.15027056 >>15026561 Your uninformed guess is more credible than claims by the people who actually revolutionized the industry and have access to all available testing and design data.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 16:15:18 2022 No.15027078 File: 91 KB, 1200x675, muskrat gas.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Zero

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 16:16:53 2022 No.15027080 File: 320 KB, 929x461, 412A6AAC-0E6E-41A1-9F02-2AB5745CF4BC.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15027070

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 16:19:36 2022 No.15027084 >can't see shit for days because of the damn fog >B7 to be lifted and moved to build site shit week

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 16:24:03 2022 No.15027088 File: 130 KB, 808x799, R.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026127 it's actually several different systems

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>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 16:28:34 2022 No.15027094 File: 812 KB, 4000x3000, art001e001823~orig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 16:36:51 2022 No.15027103 >>15027088 Why are the trojans like that? What the fuck is their problem? Form a coherent belt you lazy cunts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 16:43:33 2022 No.15027113 >>15027094 >flurffers ask why there are no proper pictures of Earth >get cool pictures like this >they just say it's fake I pity the fool who can't appreciate these pictures

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 16:55:41 2022 No.15027128 >>15027103 Jupiter gravity shenanigans and orbital mechanics

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 16:56:24 2022 No.15027130 >>15026968 >First starship makes it to orbit Oh man this is it mars in 2024 we are going >Fails on re entry Oh no it’s over Starship won’t work

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 17:12:48 2022 No.15027152 >>15027088 >all that free real estate fuck globalists, we could've been living in an ancap utopia by now

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 17:39:51 2022 No.15027200 File: 8 KB, 552x540, Titan_and_Enceladus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 17:43:37 2022 No.15027206 >>15027200 One day we will see them both up close

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 17:59:15 2022 No.15027227 https://youtu.be/dw61OW4WEo0 This should have happened

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 18:05:04 2022 No.15027235 >>15027206 enter Cassini

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 18:07:45 2022 No.15027237 >>15027235 Love Cassini but we need more.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 18:08:02 2022 No.15027238 >>15027200 Is Enceladus the most spherical small body?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 18:11:27 2022 No.15027246 File: 13 KB, 320x240, 765B5F34-731E-4506-9B30-5787E1FA3EF0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15027238 No that would be the gamesphere

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 18:12:09 2022 No.15027248 File: 363 KB, 1920x1080, firefox_2022-02-03_13-11-47.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 18:12:58 2022 No.15027249
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>>15026881
Good. Lyon was one of the biggest roadblocks to getting anything useful done. He was just as software UI obsessed as you'd expect from an iToddler, and just as blind to hardware faults.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 18:14:32 2022 No.15027253 >>15026809 Yeah, NASA will never allow POCKOCMOC to ram the ISS with Regress.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 18:16:37 2022 No.15027258

>>15027235
It’s scary how close Cassini came to cancellation In the late 80s/early 90s, it’s really the close confidence in ESA-NASA coopération that saved it, both from American budget cuts in the early 90s, and from some influential members of ESA wanting to cooperate with the USSR until congress gave it more funding in 1989

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 18:19:08 2022 No.15027260 >bridenstine is to be nominated as speaker of the house https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1598739261737472000 first rogozin now this

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 18:20:02 2022 No.15027265 >>15027238 Miranda is smaller, but a lot rougher so not sure if it counts. It's impressive how Enceladus is smaller than quite a few asteroids but manages to be so smooth. I guess it used to be bigger but lost its mass through the geysers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 18:26:19 2022 No.15027274 KINO https://twitter.com/lmspace/status/1598736260201418762

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 18:26:38 2022 No.15027275 >>15027260 i didnt know you dont need to be in congress to be elected speaker of the house. why dont they elect me? i'll fuck biden's ass

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 18:26:53 2022 No.15027277 >>15027265 I'll correct myself, Mimas is even smaller and clearly round, so I guess it is the winner.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 18:30:14 2022 No.15027285 File: 9 KB, 263x126, howdoyoudo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15027274

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 18:52:17 2022 No.15027320 SpaceX can't pull off fast consecutive launches

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 18:53:42 2022 No.15027323 I fucking hate all the low quality footage Artemis is generating. But I guess if SLS is a bit worse than Saturn V then the footage ought to be a bit worse too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 19:06:06 2022 No.15027347 File: 1.90 MB, 2000x2588, Fi_QLbUUUAAVLZE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 19:08:42 2022 No.15027355 >>15027347 it’s over before it even began

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 19:09:17 2022 No.15027357 >>15027274 >Bruh

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 19:11:53 2022 No.15027363 File: 765 KB, 3000x2000, Fi_QN2hUoAA606G.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15027355 no gimmicks

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 19:13:15 2022 No.15027365 >>15027363 cute roket

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 19:14:36 2022 No.15027369 File: 2.89 MB, 1920x1080, LAS Jettison~orig - 0.00.15-0.00.30.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15027274

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 19:15:40 2022 No.15027371 File: 213 KB, 800x1038, Screenshot 2022-12-02 at 13-15-25 OneWeb on Twitter.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >we kneel https://twitter.com/OneWeb/status/1598657103777832961

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 19:15:51 2022 No.15027372 >>15027369 Built-in LES is way cooler. But I can’t deny this is an awesome shot

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 19:16:51 2022 No.15027374 >>15027371 Thanks jupiter poster

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 19:17:41 2022 No.15027377 https://www.dvidshub.net/webcast/30624 get in here and support the MICC

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 19:32:06 2022 No.15027405 >>15027371 What choice did they have apart from waiting for rockets that don't exist?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 19:32:54 2022 No.15027407 >>15027004 Is it a spaceplane capable of ascent to orbit?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 19:34:14 2022 No.15027410 Can somebody redpill me on the RS-27 engine

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 19:35:17 2022 No.15027413 >>15027377 DoD website has livestreaming features? I wonder how many millions that cost.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 19:43:19 2022 No.15027420
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>>15027410
Derived from the H-1 on the Saturn I, which itself was derived from the LR-79 which powered Thor/Delta, Atlas, and Jupiter. RS-27 was a great engine with good history

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 19:46:00 2022 No.15027426 >>15027103 Jupiter be big yo

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 19:48:19 2022 No.15027432

>>15027420
Yeah I know very little about the H1 and even less about the RS-27. I’m so used to Atlas being associated with RD-180s, and it seems like so many of Aerojet/Rocketdyne engines are still in use today so I know enough about them. H1/RS27 is just this weird engine that isn’t around anymore. And i’ve never bothered looking into it before. Why did the H1 line die off? Was it due to the switch to cryogenic first stages?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 19:50:53 2022 No.15027441 >>15027246 AND, IT’S SPHERICAL

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 20:01:30 2022 No.15027457 >>15027253 Anon, you know the dude piloting it was british, right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 20:07:00 2022 No.15027464 >>15027432 it was kinda shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 20:22:46 2022 No.15027485 File: 1.55 MB, 2423x3392, 200505-F-YL679-1089.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How does the shape make aircraft stealthy

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 20:23:33 2022 No.15027488 >>15027485 not space, fuck off

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 20:25:27 2022 No.15027490 >>15027485 Not telling you chang

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 20:29:38 2022 No.15027496

>>15027485
They're optimized for radar coming head on, so it doesn't really or at least not directly. Also you'd need a top secret security clearance to get a complex answer on the specifics of reducing rader cross section. In general I think they design them by brute forcing radar simulations until it's as optimal as possible.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 20:31:21 2022 No.15027500 >>15027496 fucking can't wait to see the Raider.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 20:43:13 2022 No.15027520

>>15027485
Visualize radar as sending out arrows.
When the arrow hits the aircraft the shape will either knock it back to the sender, like a boomerang, or deflect it a different way.
Combine this with materials which absorb radar waves so there's less to send back.

As a rule of thumb, no straight lines - it'll send it right back to sender.
No curved lines - it'll send it in all directions including to the sender.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 20:47:50 2022 No.15027529 File: 31 KB, 147x152, Astra_airlines_logo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15026881 astra will come back strong. invested

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 20:51:14 2022 No.15027541 >>15027529 copium

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 20:53:28 2022 No.15027545 >>15027485 Radar absorbant paint

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 20:54:15 2022 No.15027547 File: 40 KB, 595x422, 000788.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] oh boy

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 20:55:51 2022 No.15027551 >>15027547 Thanks, Howard Hughes

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 20:56:35 2022 No.15027552 how long until Elon starts ranting about the jews and says he likes hitler?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 20:57:24 2022 No.15027556 >>15027363 >>15027365 Every time they scrub, I'm happy because then we get more pictures like this

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:03:35 2022 No.15027563 I just realized Boeing had the greatest success of 2022. >Starliner successfully dock to ISS >SLS launch perfectly

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:04:54 2022 No.15027567 >>15027547 BASED BASED BASED BASED

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:07:01 2022 No.15027569 >>15027552 I don't think he wants to lose Isaacman's support

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:08:02 2022 No.15027573

>>15027485
The equations for calculating radar reflection were published by the soviets who did nothing with it, then the Americans translated it, were astounded it worked and that it was not kept secret by the soviets. You can read those papers yourself, they won't cover radar absorbing coatings or the latest developments but will allow you to develop an understanding.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:14:40 2022 No.15027586 >>15027573 >who did nothing with it They made america waste a shitton of money and effort on f117 for one

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:21:27 2022 No.15027594 >>15027586 only for an eyeballing Serb to shoot it down

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:22:45 2022 No.15027595 File: 1.67 MB, 1170x1555, 9B3CDFA7-FE01-4CCC-9E06-2D68B5538020.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15027594

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:25:45 2022 No.15027600 How long until Elon starts ranting about Earthers and says he likes Von Braun?

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:30:04 2022 No.15027607

>>15027594
Attack airplanes shouldn’t be stealthy swiss watches that can be downed by too much dust on the runway; this was their big mistake. They should be rugged as fuck and expect to take a few direct hits over the course of a sortie.
There are so many instances of A-10s basically being all but blown out of the sky but they made it back because of great engineering with redundant systems

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:34:53 2022 No.15027615 >>15027600 have to wait for at least some of the colony to be online

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:36:05 2022 No.15027620 >>15027547 where will this be streamed?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:36:21 2022 No.15027621 https://youtu.be/Ni7qvniCgC4 Good job N.Gr.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:39:54 2022 No.15027629 File: 1.06 MB, 1920x1080, [1920x1080] vtime=[77_05_40_45], take=[2022-12-02 15.39.47].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:40:32 2022 No.15027630 >>15027620 on the 'tter

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:43:37 2022 No.15027637 File: 26 KB, 328x466, 1649303236581.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15027586 Just because it cost 10x your entire country's GDP, doesn't mean it was "a shitton of money".

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:44:07 2022 No.15027639 >>15027621 How the fuck can ULA, a company that builds and launches the exact same shit year after year after year, do a “supplier of the year” award kek It’s not like they have a bunch of options to award this to

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:46:51 2022 No.15027642 >>15027639 Tory just established it so that he can award it to everyone but BO

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 21:50:50 2022 No.15027654 >>15027413 I'll have you know it went just slightly overbudget at $790 million but came in on schedule in just 5.5 years! Now that's efficiency!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:10:27 2022 No.15027693 >>15027654 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:11:25 2022 No.15027696 >>15027547 stream link?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:13:58 2022 No.15027701 >>15027696 not up yet elon is late as usual

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:15:15 2022 No.15027703 >>15027547 >December 3, 2022 >Elon Musk was found dead at Twitter HQ with eight bullet wounds in his head.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:20:03 2022 No.15027707 >>15027547 Finally. The MSM tried to wipe out the existence by creating fake narratives and censor the whole thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:21:16 2022 No.15027711 WITNESS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eGGYnLkr3A

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:21:59 2022 No.15027713 >>15027711 >witness checked

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:23:12 2022 No.15027715 File: 169 KB, 666x668, Screenshot_20221202_022238.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Neuralink patients registry open.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:24:14 2022 No.15027716 >>15026816 >>15026818 He needed to take over twitter because the establishment was planning to use it to turn public opinion against him and shut down SpaceX.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:27:12 2022 No.15027718 File: 12 KB, 587x111, 23.26.43.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] fact-checking is hard

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:28:55 2022 No.15027720 >>15026407 Super Heavy is powerful enough to lift the SLS core stage and upper stages out of the atmosphere, anon you only need one

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:33:25 2022 No.15027729 >>15026977 >Falcon is the spiritual successor to von Braun’s rockets Don't worry, the homoglobos will make this exact connection when they're desperate to shut down SpaceX.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:35:57 2022 No.15027735 >>15027729 I hope so

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:36:10 2022 No.15027736 >>15025943 Based CCP party member pragmatist that knows science is more important than feels.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:36:33 2022 No.15027737 >>15027600 This is why they're trying to use Kanye, the tame schizo of the establishment, to taint Musk.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:37:22 2022 No.15027739 >>15027729 >>15027737 M E D S

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:38:23 2022 No.15027742 >>15027739 I'm not taking your jewish poison

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:39:37 2022 No.15027746 >>15027520 >no straight lines >no curved lines Well what else is there

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:40:15 2022 No.15027747 >>15027746 >he doesn’t know

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:41:33 2022 No.15027750 >>15027746 no lines at all

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:45:15 2022 No.15027755 >>15027746 Perpendicular.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:50:49 2022 No.15027762 >>15027746 That's classified.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:52:38 2022 No.15027764 >>15027746 yeah I think whoever wrote that was high

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:56:03 2022 No.15027771 >>15027746 dotted lines

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:57:54 2022 No.15027772 File: 69 KB, 386x500, radar game.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15027485 Read this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:57:54 2022 No.15027773 File: 1.84 MB, 1695x1274, 1651538302583.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15027746 Shapeshifting aircraft. Alternatively, liquid aircraft.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:58:28 2022 No.15027775
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>>15027746
Ignore the fact that I have no idea who to draw straight lines in gimp and couldn't be assed to figure it out.
>this is the power of free software

Ellipses break the """arrow""" and scatter it in all directions.
Perpendicular deflects it somewhere else.
Straight lines bounce the straight back.

>>15027764
Not high. Just lack the words.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 22:58:59 2022 No.15027776 File: 65 KB, 1068x601, 1650382945010.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >https://youtu.be/N0acoq5Uzfs >open video >hit dislike >close video

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:00:33 2022 No.15027779 >>15027775 You should be using Krita for scribbling on images like that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:01:57 2022 No.15027780 >>15027779 I'll use blender next time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:02:18 2022 No.15027781 >>15027775 you know airplanes aren't just silouettes and wave don't just reflect from the wing edges. In any case you got this wrong.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:03:14 2022 No.15027783 >>15027781 >you know airplanes aren't just silouettes and wave don't just reflect from the wing edges. I'm boiling it down to its essence. We don't need to complicate things. > In any case you got this wrong. By all means, correct me. I love to learn.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:03:31 2022 No.15027784 >>15027775 Why are their noses still rounded off though? I would think they should be as pointy as possible.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:07:08 2022 No.15027789
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>>15027784
With older software, with shittier computers, thats why the F-117 was so polygonal. It looked like a PS1 game.
But with faster processing you can do more.

The noses aren't entirely rounded. Instead of looking at it as a vector break it into thousands, millions, billions of slices. The slices are called facets.
Same way pixels, at a distance, look like a curved line when in fact they're made up of squares.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:13:17 2022 No.15027798 bastard is late

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:13:54 2022 No.15027799
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Space is the place for the human race
Chasing the race for the new place
Days on our old place waste
Starship's team full of everybody keen
Pilot in the twilight is a deep dream
Men and machine convene

Peri-perihelion
Peri-perihelion
Peri-perihelion
Peri-perihelion

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:17:17 2022 No.15027804 >>15027784 >>15027789 The noses are made out of radar transparent material anyway because that's where they keep their own radar systems.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:17:45 2022 No.15027805
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>>15027789
the f-117 mainly uses a different stealth strategy. The chance that a single facet will be aligned exactly perpendicular to a radar at some time is extremely low. However sometimes things just match up and the f--17 give a strong radar return. With modern stealth aircraft looking at them from the side, any side, you will notice that not a single surface is perpendicular to the camera. This is why all stealth planes have this characteristic edge going from tip to exhaust dividing the plane into two halves. However if we look at a stealth plane from above or from below there will be parts of the curved surface that will be perpendicular to us and the plane in this configuration gives a stronger radar return. In pic rel you can note how not a single surface is perpendicular to us. The cockpit is coated in metal to be reflective to radar.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:19:55 2022 No.15027809 File: 273 KB, 1800x1205, YF-23_front.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15027805 Note that not a single surface is normal to the camera

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:20:18 2022 No.15027811 >>15027798 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmeBn8A6TuU

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:25:02 2022 No.15027818 File: 358 KB, 599x829, 000791.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1598819976500027393 https://www.spacex.com/starshield/ weird timing

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:26:02 2022 No.15027819 File: 65 KB, 1415x660, 000792.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15027818

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:26:08 2022 No.15027820 >>15027818 It’s to allow the government to use Starlink easier

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:26:17 2022 No.15027821 No warfare in space, please

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:26:24 2022 No.15027822 >>15027818 Was going to post that. Just came up in my tweets timeline page.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:28:14 2022 No.15027825 >>15027818 >hosted payloads I was saying that about Starlink V2 satellites with small slot for custom sensor suit packages that anyone can utilize.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:28:25 2022 No.15027827 >>15027821 You have to go back

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:28:46 2022 No.15027828 why is everything happening at the same time, B-21 raider, Hunter Biden Story, Now this SpaceX thing

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:29:46 2022 No.15027831 File: 210 KB, 800x1000, 81B41D77-7D50-4670-98CF-85D81DC1E5AD.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What’s the threshold for Starlink breaking even, cost-wise?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:30:17 2022 No.15027832 >>15027827 It was agreed upon

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:31:11 2022 No.15027835 File: 1.02 MB, 1600x800, 1651106487849.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15027821 Fuck off, I want to see real space battles in my lifetime.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:31:37 2022 No.15027836 File: 22 KB, 720x218, Screen Shot 2022-12-02 at 6.30.18 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:31:40 2022 No.15027837 >>15027828 Because it's about to happen.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:31:58 2022 No.15027838 File: 1.46 MB, 1170x1721, 2120EF7A-AD8A-469D-9F22-45A341D03703.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Okay so……. are these tiles under the SeX logo just for show or are these test tiles or what?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:32:32 2022 No.15027839 >>15027838 thermal protection for the radio antennas

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:32:34 2022 No.15027840

>>15027831
They can reach cost-wise threshold anytime they want. They just have to stop launching and it will pay for itself in 2-3 years. But SpaceX doesn't want to stop this. They will constantly want to push the launch capabilities such that their roi cost will be reduced over time. Eventually with Starship, the roi will be lower than 1 year. When that happens, they'll be able to maximize the output of each satellites launched to 10x roi. Maybe even more if they can utilize more functions within their sats.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:32:59 2022 No.15027841 >>15027836 It's actually over this time, they suicided him.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:33:16 2022 No.15027843

>>15027819
>>15027818

Basically, as I understand it, Gen2 Starlink satellites are big enough that you can integrate communication and observatory type payloads into the satellite bus. The data from that would be parsed into a dedicated encrypted beamformed down to a specific receiver, where it would be decrypted, ETLed, and worked on in accordance to mission requirements.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:35:12 2022 No.15027844 >>15027843 brainlet here, isn't like all internet communication encrypted anyway?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:35:12 2022 No.15027845 wow, Elon became a MIC drone. grim

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:35:53 2022 No.15027846 >>15027840 >the roi will be lower than 1 year. How much do the dishes cost to manufacture?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:36:11 2022 No.15027847 >>15027843 In the same empty spot as the space phone antenna is going I guess? Probably don't need to put those on every gen 2 satellite so they have extra capability/space for other integrated payloads like this

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:36:13 2022 No.15027848

>>15027843
The genius of the thing is that if each of sats gets custom gov sensors/payloads package on it, the whole satellites basically becomes "free" to SpaceX because government will easily pay $500K per satellite sensor bus capability (thats what it would cost spacex as well).

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:36:38 2022 No.15027849 >>15027844 Yes. What you responded to is larping /k/tard

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:38:00 2022 No.15027852 >>15027846 ~1.5K maybe lower now. Starlink has ~1M customers right now. So thats $100/m x 12 x 1 million = 1.2 billion per year revenue

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:38:25 2022 No.15027853 >>15027849 what do customers get by using the Starshield communication then

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:38:36 2022 No.15027854 >>15027844 yes

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:39:14 2022 No.15027855

>>15027844
Yes, but there's different standards and pattens to encryption. What's used for TLS1.2 is not the same thing as what government uses via FIPS-140-3 and beyond. See: https://csrc.nist.gov/publications/detail/fips/140/3/final and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIPS_140-3

For example, military hardware requires dedicated ASICs onboard that go above and beyond what most devices have to handle the encryption/decryption and isolation of data.

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:40:01 2022 No.15027856

>>15027853
What it says, earth observation, communication and hosted payloads.
>>15027855
>Yes, but there's different standards and pattens to encryption. What's used for TLS1.2 is not the same thing as what government uses via FIPS-140-3 and beyond. See: https://csrc.nist.gov/publications/detail/fips/140/3/final and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIPS_140-3
>For example, military hardware requires dedicated ASICs onboard that go above and beyond what most devices have to handle the encryption/decryption and isolation of data.
>HUGE /k/tard larp ensues

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:42:00 2022 No.15027860 >>15027855 Can't governments just have their own powerful encryption computers on the ground and have Starlinks pass the encrypted data between computers. They don't even have to trust Starlink

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:43:40 2022 No.15027864 File: 497 KB, 1920x1080, [1920x1080] vtime=[77_07_44_27], take=[2022-12-02 17.43.31].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] FOGGED and MOGGED

Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:44:03 2022 No.15027865

>>15027860
>Can't governments just have their own powerful encryption computers on the ground and have Starlinks pass the encrypted data between computers. They don't even have to trust Starlink
Your phone does this already.
Also
>powerful encryption computers
stop being a retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:44:36 2022 No.15027866 File: 14 KB, 613x228, 000793.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598822959866683394

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:47:02 2022 No.15027868 >>15027866 Literally who?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:48:06 2022 No.15027870 File: 99 KB, 320x320, 1602717884900.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15027866 >when every thread you're watching posts a variation of this tweet

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:49:00 2022 No.15027871 >>15027866 Bro this is shit. There is no evidence, just faggot prose.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:51:25 2022 No.15027875 >>15027866 literally who, and we are 15 minutes in and it reads like a pompous editorial

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:55:28 2022 No.15027878 File: 103 KB, 604x615, 000795.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15027875 https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598827602403160064 "dissident left" journalist I guess

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:55:39 2022 No.15027879 File: 622 KB, 680x513, 53FE7443-6318-4551-B5CA-3CFCBC312A88.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] THIS is the ‘bombshell’???

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:56:27 2022 No.15027881 >>15027866 proof the FAA is stopping Starship

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:58:57 2022 No.15027883 >>15027879 yep, a couple antivaxxar trumpians got banned woawoaw

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 2 23:59:58 2022 No.15027886 >>15027883 the point is that twitter colluded with one party to moderate the site to their liking manipulating speech

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:01:46 2022 No.15027888 >>15027886 Politicians and governments, the eternal parasite of man.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:02:20 2022 No.15027890 File: 879 KB, 1216x743, 000796.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chJlJgrvfBY

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:04:05 2022 No.15027892 Twitter files will lead to impeachment inquiry.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:05:25 2022 No.15027895 Twitter files will end with Elon Musk as supreme emperor of the United Empire of America Inc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:08:24 2022 No.15027899 >>15027818 >>15027819 >important enough to warrant being added to the top of the website >zero announcement ok this is pretty cool though

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:10:42 2022 No.15027901 Someone tell Loren Grush to dump the SpaceX Files

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:11:42 2022 No.15027903 >>15027775 https://jspaint.app

Astranon Sat Dec 3 00:12:50 2022 No.15027905
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>>15027819
It's over, Astra is finished. They were counting on being first with on-orbit compute, a multitenant constellation, and a secure government version. Now even if Rocket 4 performs flawlessly the company has no future.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:13:22 2022 No.15027906 File: 285 KB, 628x772, Screenshot_20221202_041146.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Musk meets with Macron from France

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:14:18 2022 No.15027908 >>15027906 >elon sucking up to EU after they vaguely threaten twitter lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:14:57 2022 No.15027909 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZJiVQ61MpQ >radiation hardened robots design to recover debris They should send these to space once they're done

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:14:59 2022 No.15027910 >>15027908 I think you've got it backwards.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:16:43 2022 No.15027913 >>15027849 Its probably safe to assume glowies can crack tls. They built it, after all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:17:50 2022 No.15027915 >>15027906 >Musk meets with various foreign leaders to discuss important projects. >Biden refuses to even mention the name Musk, unless he's antagonizing Musk's companies or Musk

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:19:37 2022 No.15027916 It's well known that if you want to bury a story, release it on a Friday.

>>	Astranon Sat Dec 3 00:25:43 2022 No.15027922 >>15027855 FIPS-140-* lags well behind modern FOSS/commercial crypto. It's a subset of that capability, and mostly exists as a stick for engineers to beat managers with so they don't skimp on security. Your typing style reeks of DoD buzzwords.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:26:33 2022 No.15027924 >>15027909 isn't spaceflight/missile hardware already where most of the r&d for radiation hardening happens anyways?

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:27:28 2022 No.15027925

>>15027890
What’s the benefit of these things over ICBMs that perform the same job without costing an incomprehensible amount of money in comparison and don’t say the ability to drop normal bombs because they obviously won’t risk wasting one of these on that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:27:29 2022 No.15027926 >>15027924 Yes. It's a lot more common to run something in LEO than to be inside a terrestrial hot zone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:29:07 2022 No.15027930 >>15027913 tls?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:34:38 2022 No.15027934 Can we create a /musk general/ so we can keep this shit out of here?

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:34:57 2022 No.15027935

>>15027925
>they obviously won’t risk wasting one of these on that
They will if it comes down to it. The B2 saw a decent amount of use and this is just the new version. Also, there's the principle of having a nuclear triad so that if one method of delivering nukes is somehow destroyed/defended against there is redundancy. In terms of cost and ordinance per sortie, they're much more efficient than just using missiles (though probably not enough to offset total development cost).

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:35:21 2022 No.15027936

>>15027925
The benefit is being able to do a first strike without giving the enemy time to launch a counterattack. ICBM/SLBM launches are extremely obvious and take more than ten minutes to reach their targets. As Hillary leaked on live TV in 2016, nuclear response times are under five minutes. If there were B-21s staged in Europe with nuclear tipped stealth cruise missiles (which we have), it would be possible to destroy Moscow and St. Petersburg before Putin gave the order to return fire. The Ohio class boomer subs are being refit to carry 155 VLS cells instead of big boomers for a similar reason, and also so they can support conventional ops with non nuclear missiles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:38:04 2022 No.15027941 Nukes should be launched using SLS

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:39:28 2022 No.15027946 File: 276 KB, 1600x1000, space shuttle discovery.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15027941 *STS

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:58:19 2022 No.15027963 >>15027941 >>15027946 same thing

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 00:59:54 2022 No.15027966 you cant always move fast and break stuff

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:00:40 2022 No.15027967 >>15027966 That's literally what expendable rockets do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:02:13 2022 No.15027973 File: 608 KB, 580x750, woah.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15027890 IT STARTED LET'S A-GO

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:02:21 2022 No.15027974 STREAM IS LIVE

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:03:28 2022 No.15027977 >>15027973 >national anthem Bwahahahahahaha

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:04:08 2022 No.15027980 diversity hire singer

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:04:29 2022 No.15027981 File: 472 KB, 1356x779, 000797.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15027973 what the fuck this doesnt look like an airplane

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:05:08 2022 No.15027982 File: 63 KB, 954x500, Screenshot from 2022-12-02 20-04-38.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] KINO

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:05:38 2022 No.15027984 Well this is going about as terribly as I expected

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:06:37 2022 No.15027986 Northrup grumman just BTFO Spacex

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:07:26 2022 No.15027990 jesus christ

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:07:59 2022 No.15027991 File: 290 KB, 1920x1080, firefox_2022-12-02_20-04-22.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15027982

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:08:29 2022 No.15027992 I seriously hope that wasn't the raider because it looks the same as b-2

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:09:15 2022 No.15027993 >>15027992 It was a B-2.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:09:18 2022 No.15027994 >>15027992 baka

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:09:24 2022 No.15027995 >>15027992 That was a b-2. I don't think they plan to actually fly the b21 for a few months.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:10:20 2022 No.15027997 >>>/k/56261946 stickyyyy

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:11:00 2022 No.15027999 >uplifting piano music >for a fucking bomber that’s just going to kill a bunch of derkas and civilians >diversity hires >”thanks to congress!” Death to the globohomo military industrial complex

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:11:33 2022 No.15028002 >suppliers across 40 states GRIFT

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:13:35 2022 No.15028006 wish youtube allowed higher bitrate because this shit looks poopy

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:13:51 2022 No.15028007 DoD powerpoints have come a long way

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:15:47 2022 No.15028010 File: 1.73 MB, 1920x1080, firefox_2022-12-02_20-15-30.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It do be a plane

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:16:10 2022 No.15028012 There's so much shit going on right now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:16:22 2022 No.15028013 >>15028010 does this have antigravity on it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:16:48 2022 No.15028016 >>15028006 https://www.dvidshub.net/webcast/30624

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:17:45 2022 No.15028017 it's a good thing they didn't unveil this in november desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:18:05 2022 No.15028019 >>15028010 white? that's racist

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:18:08 2022 No.15028020 >>15028010 plastic prop

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:18:51 2022 No.15028022 File: 105 KB, 808x441, B-2+Overhead[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] THEY ONLY PULLED IT OUT HALFWAY SO WE CANT SEE THE REAR LMAO (the b2 unveil had the rear hidden but a civilian aircraft took this photo, exposing the then-secret exhaust)

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:19:08 2022 No.15028024 >>15028010 >posting a photo of an empty hanger literally why?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:21:59 2022 No.15028028 Wait, Ash Carter died?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:23:41 2022 No.15028030 >>15028028 Just another "sudden cardiac event" in 2022

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:28:09 2022 No.15028036 >>15028010 just so everyone knows, this is equivalent to the "Blue Moon" unveil from BO. It's not a prototype, just a goofy prop

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:29:42 2022 No.15028038 How come the globohomo doesnt put out an ad for starship?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:30:37 2022 No.15028039 >>15028036 LMAO NO In development for 7 years, in construction since 2 years

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:31:30 2022 No.15028040 >>15028030 oy vey

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:33:15 2022 No.15028042 >USA still needs planes to drop nukes embarrassing

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:33:42 2022 No.15028043 >>15028010 how many billion (trillion) will it actually cost?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:33:49 2022 No.15028044 >>15028042 No, it needs bombers to carpet bomb and not go bankrupt in the process.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:35:51 2022 No.15028048 >no side profile >no ass view >not even a belly shot This is just a cardboard model isn’t it

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:45:09 2022 No.15028057 >>15028039 New Glenn in development for 20 years :)

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:45:09 2022 No.15028056 >>15028048 The ass view is classified.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:46:11 2022 No.15028059 >>15028048 >asking for lewds anon have some decency she's way too young for that

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:49:42 2022 No.15028064 File: 405 KB, 1021x533, the smell.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15028059

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:50:28 2022 No.15028065 >>15026878 kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:53:13 2022 No.15028070 >>15028064 lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:54:04 2022 No.15028071 >>15028056 xD

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:56:42 2022 No.15028075 >>15026881 >>15027249 physiognomy doesn't lie

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:56:45 2022 No.15028076 >>15028071 I'm not kidding. See >>15028022

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:57:26 2022 No.15028077 File: 1.32 MB, 4096x2731, bomber.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] UUUOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:58:40 2022 No.15028080 File: 1.21 MB, 4096x2731, bomber2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15028077

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:59:10 2022 No.15028081 >>15026886 according to the former employee who frequents /sfg/, they're in absolute shambles and that's why he got out as fast as possible

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 01:59:11 2022 No.15028082 >>15028077 ok fly it then if it's real. oh? whats that? cant fly? 2 weeks you say?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:01:10 2022 No.15028085 File: 372 KB, 1383x1193, D7CF522C-776A-4BF0-AEC8-FC432608AD7D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I’m proud to be an American and I’m tired of pretending I’m not

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:01:33 2022 No.15028089 File: 31 KB, 261x127, tat.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15028077 this harlot has a belly tattoo

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:01:33 2022 No.15028088 File: 121 KB, 600x600, 600px-BooNSMBWii-1-.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15028077 cute. looks like she's sticking her tongue out

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:04:36 2022 No.15028094 File: 1.13 MB, 1057x1493, 1649875190717.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15028077 Looks retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:07:53 2022 No.15028097 >>15028077 Ahegao B-21 when??????

Astranon Sat Dec 3 02:11:36 2022 No.15028101
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>>15028081
Hi, yes. That's me. Astra's long term roadmap was three phases:
>Phase 1: launch
Lyon spent a lot of time personally defending the choice to use a pressure fed upper stage engine which is proooooobably related to Kemp shitcanning him.
>Phase 2: selling satellite buses and components
basically the Apollo Fusion bits of the company
>Phase 3: a multitenant megaconstellation with on orbit compute and compatible with glownigger requirements
SpaceX Starshield and Starlink V2 destroy this.

Astra's long term valuation was based on them pulling down billion dollars a year in Phase 3 and having a steady stream of launches including NASA and OneWeb. That's all unbelievably fucked now. NASDAQ will delist them in April unless the stock price recovers (lol) and that's basically curtains.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:12:23 2022 No.15028104 >>15028089 the rear is identical to the B2

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:20:59 2022 No.15028117 >>15028101 What was wrong with the upper stage? Also, what were you guys thinking? Rocket 3 was horribly fucking small. Lastly, why was reliability so bad with Rocket 3?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:23:04 2022 No.15028121 >>15028101 >Phase 3 Lmao what were they thinking? Astra, of all companies, could not compete with SpaceX shitting out literally tens of thousands of Starlinks, when they can barely reach orbit.

Astranon Sat Dec 3 02:25:03 2022 No.15028122

>>15028117
Fuel leaks after staging meant the actual payload to orbit was much less than advertised. Both """successful"""" missions ran out of fuel early but had enough margin. due to smaller payloads. The upper stage never once worked as designed.

>>15028121
Management admitted they'd probably need to launch on Starship when I asked.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:26:08 2022 No.15028126 >>15028010 >>15028077 >>15028080 >the only pictures are straight on glad I didn't watch

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:26:42 2022 No.15028128 >>15028122 Do you think Astra could’ve “made it”?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:28:14 2022 No.15028130 File: 1.29 MB, 4000x3000, FjBBvugUcAEQ6UK.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Full Terran prototype with nosecone

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:29:19 2022 No.15028132 >>15028122 >long term plan relied on their (theoretical) main competitor's launch infrastructure lmao that's even worse than I thought

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:29:35 2022 No.15028134 >>15028122 Pretty embarrassing to come up with SpaceX's business model sans Starship and interplanetary ambition.

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:31:43 2022 No.15028143

>>15028101
It was funny even then hearing them talk about launching the constellation. IIRC they hinted both at launching them by themselves, which is ridiculous at the scale of their rockets, and by buying launches, which feels like admitting defeat for the small launch business model.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:32:45 2022 No.15028146 >>15028143 okay I missed >>15028122, so yeah their rockets were a dead end even before Rocket 3 shit the bed

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:33:48 2022 No.15028149 >>15028130 >prototype The fuck I thought they were launching soon? They are maybe the one and only memesat company I take seriously besides RL but they need to move fast

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:35:47 2022 No.15028152 >>15028101 Did you get a job somewhere that isn't a shitshow?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:35:56 2022 No.15028153 >>15028149 That's the launch article. I'm just calling it a prototype because the fairing on this flight feels like an afterthought. They say they'll roll it out in the next few days.

Astranon Sat Dec 3 02:36:04 2022 No.15028155
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>>15028128
I think there were a bunch of really bad design choices inherited from the company's original attempt to meet a DARPA "responsive launch including propellant and GSE in two shipping containers" challenge, and a bunch of other bad design/ops patterns inherited from NASA, Blue Origin, and Apple due to hiring choices. I really wanted Astra to succeed but in retrospect it was never going to happen. They would have needed to give up on one-box rockets and start building something like a Falcon 1 back in 2018 or 2019.

>>15028134
People were suggesting more deep space options on the suggestions page and management turned them down.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:37:07 2022 No.15028156 Rotational gravity or genetically engineering humans to tolerate weightlessness?

>>	Astranon Sat Dec 3 02:37:14 2022 No.15028157 >>15028152 can't talk about that yet, but I did land on my feet

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:37:44 2022 No.15028159 >>15028157 I thought you ended up at Capella

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:39:05 2022 No.15028161 >>15028156 Genetically modified cybered-up humans on 5g gainstations

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:42:57 2022 No.15028169

>>15028155
>People were suggesting more deep space options on the suggestions page and management turned them down.
Astra moon landers would've been a sight to behold. If not, maybe they could've beat SpaceX to Moon/Mars comms if they set their minds to it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:45:24 2022 No.15028174 >>15028157 Good going m8

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:46:19 2022 No.15028176 >>15028156 rotation when necessary, free EVA for anyone who suggests genetic engineering as a solution (they'll be given several minutes to genetically engineer vacuum tolerance)

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:48:30 2022 No.15028180 lol wtf is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAtpDnYL7-g

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:48:43 2022 No.15028181 >>15028169 >Astra moon landers couldn't be any worse than Dynetics's proposal

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:49:57 2022 No.15028188 >>15028180 A scam

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:50:14 2022 No.15028190 >>15028180 holy wtf

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:50:46 2022 No.15028191 >>15028181 I was envisioning Astra CLPS landers launching at a regular pace but crashing just as regularly

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:50:49 2022 No.15028192 >>15028188 how do they have 3k watchers?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:50:56 2022 No.15028194 >>15028181 At least it would have been vaguely physically plausible. >fix upper stage >use ion thruster to change orbit >set collision course for Chinese lander >lithobrake

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:51:47 2022 No.15028198 >>15028192 bots, because youtube doesn't care

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:52:31 2022 No.15028201

>>15028180
Look at the chat, it's a literal scammer trying to sell some crypto shit.
I've seen this guy before, has been doing this for months.

>>15028192
Because people are stupid.
There's this stream that always had about 2000 viewers saying it was a stream from Orion showing it's closeby of the Moon but it was just an animation made of old Moon pics.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 02:55:21 2022 No.15028213 File: 64 KB, 1238x708, spx(real).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ah yes, the famous spacex-developed spacecraft, "starliner"

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:04:07 2022 No.15028230 >>15028213 >he doesn't know about the boeing acquisition

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:06:55 2022 No.15028239 File: 990 KB, 1354x528, E671E535-98FB-4D27-AA32-3732ABD45455.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Remember when SpaceX kept failing cryo tests

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:08:31 2022 No.15028242 >>15028239 and now they fail autogenous pressurization tests

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:13:47 2022 No.15028251 loren gash of the vagina

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:16:00 2022 No.15028255 >>15028201 >There's this stream that always had about 2000 viewers saying it was a stream from Orion showing it's closeby of the Moon but it was just an animation made of old Moon pics. >trolling normiefags into views not sure if scam or based

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:16:06 2022 No.15028256 >>15028239 Those were the days

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:16:25 2022 No.15028258 >>15028251 You fucked it up anon, it's >Loren Gash with the Vag

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:19:12 2022 No.15028265 >>15028258 no YOU fucked it up bc she at bloomburg now

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:19:20 2022 No.15028266 >>15028255 lmao I just found it, the stream it's still going on, this shit's been up for like 2 weeks now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHLDluKhuU8

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:21:38 2022 No.15028272 File: 67 KB, 375x407, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15028266 Peak pajeet-core chat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:24:48 2022 No.15028282 i drank brown sugar and my tummy hurts

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:25:00 2022 No.15028283

>>15028265
>Moves to Bloomberg
>Exclusively writes NASA puff pieces and SpaceX whining employee hit pieces
wew
>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-17/spacex-is-accused-of-illegally-firing-workers-over-musk-comments
>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-30/former-spacex-employee-alleges-age-discrimination-at-elon-musk-company

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:29:56 2022 No.15028294 File: 822 KB, 1170x763, 5003AC0E-E8D6-4E31-88FC-0944B4E0645F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Progress MS22 is undergoing 6-day vacuum chamber testing. Launch scheduled for February 2023.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:30:57 2022 No.15028296 File: 3.36 MB, 5184x3888, 1620975492696.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15028256 I want to go back

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:31:14 2022 No.15028298 >>15028283 she's a woman, what do you expect

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:33:58 2022 No.15028311 File: 471 KB, 1284x1317, B0739D4A-223E-4E19-89F3-D34B591F639B.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] He just responded to me 5 seconds ago what do I say?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:35:26 2022 No.15028313 >>15028311 >Implying his day job, at Apple, Inc. is political What did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:35:45 2022 No.15028315 >>15028311 Wait, what was his day job? I feel like I should know this

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:35:56 2022 No.15028317 >>15028311 You’re about to get ratio by his armada of gays and troons it’s over anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:35:58 2022 No.15028319 >>15028311 His dayjob is to police thought for unacceptable ideas to protect the state from its people?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:36:30 2022 No.15028320 >>15028311 call him an itoddler, disparage the EU, imply he's an americanophile

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:38:15 2022 No.15028329

>>15028319
Adding onto this, CS Lewis rightly warned of us this ilk long ago:
> “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:38:16 2022 No.15028330 >>15028311 "Apple is officially gay everyone!" and a laughing Satania gif.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:40:17 2022 No.15028333 >>15028311 https://twitter.com/LarryYa98503502/status/1598880622847873024

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:41:48 2022 No.15028338 >>15028320 this is actually funny, do this lol

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:43:15 2022 No.15028341
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I am not mentally prepared for you anons to expose your twitter profiles here. Even if you keep it anonymous, I die of cringe going through your likes lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:43:18 2022 No.15028342 >>15028311 >>15028333 Dubs and trips confirm that Scott must hear what /sfg/ has to say about his retarded politics

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:44:32 2022 No.15028344 >>15028239 This is clear evidence that Starship is an inherently flawed design that will never work

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:44:44 2022 No.15028345 File: 69 KB, 1200x675, tom-in-woods.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15028341 Don't do it anon remember what happened last time

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:44:48 2022 No.15028346 File: 18 KB, 547x414, 1669855649800010.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15028341 >Chuck Yeager lurks /sfg/

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:47:01 2022 No.15028351 >>15028346 The idea that Chuck Yeager can be as much of a shitposting memetard as the rest of us gives me hope for the future.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:48:29 2022 No.15028355 >>15028346 >>15028351 chuck yeager is dead

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:48:47 2022 No.15028356 File: 1.28 MB, 1170x1606, BDC45A25-95AA-47E3-9533-B5AC39D1DEBF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15028345 Kek I was the one who found it

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:52:17 2022 No.15028362 >>15028355 >he thinks that can stop him

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:54:17 2022 No.15028366 File: 478 KB, 1284x1201, 8346D920-2002-4063-B798-78EEB377B115.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15028342 Fuck. Do not interact with this shit, seeing your stupid profiles is ruining my perception of this board

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:54:51 2022 No.15028367 >>15028366 Krystalposter face reveal

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:57:24 2022 No.15028371 File: 17 KB, 342x450, 1668916119200376.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15028366 >it's a "progtard realizes he is in the minority" episode

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 03:57:43 2022 No.15028372

>>15028333
>This was released against a backdrop of twitter insisting for years it didn't have a bias to the right, and finally their own study concluded it did.
>It was a bias in the algorithm somewhere. It's not clear if any changes were made since 2021 which tried to address this.
>"We've studied ourselves and found a concerning amount of bias to the right, therefore we must crack down on the right and boost the left to combat injustice."
So is he being disingenuous or is he legitimately so retarded that he can't see the obvious?
>>15028367
I can't believe krystalposter got another waifu.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 04:08:23 2022 No.15028382 >>15028372 >hmmm is this faggot who lives in loony land with a retarded political bias being disingenuous?

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 04:17:51 2022 No.15028391

I can never forgive STS and how much it has set us back, but I can’t deny that the era of post-soviet russia and the united states working together with near constant shuttle flights and mir and the beginnings of ISS was so /comfy/
2 pals fooling around for the pure sake of autism. And shuttle bringing up 7 people at a time and making it routine cannot be stressed enough

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 04:19:43 2022 No.15028392 >>15028391 without sts, no iss. with no iss, no spacesex

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 04:21:29 2022 No.15028395 >>15028392 I guess it’s the law of equivalent exchange. It’s how it needed to happen

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 04:21:48 2022 No.15028396 >>15028311 How is a claim about twitter that's either right or wrong "politics"? There's no value judgement or societal decision making in that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 04:38:11 2022 No.15028424 >>15028396 It’s a claim about the political leaning of Twitter

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 04:38:21 2022 No.15028425 You are GO for staging >>15028423 >>15028423 >>15028423

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 06:00:03 2022 No.15028548 File: 33 KB, 1141x208, Artemis wmn.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15027776 KEK

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