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What you think about Mechanical engineering degree?

>> No.15025418

>>15025410
Honestly? I like how technical it is but more likely than not you're just going to end up a corporate slave making 80k a year while your managers make millions in profit off your work. If you want to feed the machine for food scraps in return go right ahead.

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>> No.15025434

Any other engineers here fantasize about going in a time machine to the middle ages and meeting with a king to impart all of the crazy techniques you know? Hydraulics alone would make them absolutely overpowered to any of their opponents.

>> No.15025437

>>15025434
No? You might be autistic

>> No.15025449

>>15025437
No even like show them a basic idea of a cannon and watch the resulting bloodbath?

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>>15025434
I like to imagine being teleported back to ancient Greece, with the goal of convincing them (with an idea / creation from scratch) that you are somebody that deserves to be fed / paid to stick around.

My ideas:
- Build a sliderule (although, challenge: how do figure out the correct spacing for the rulings?)
- Build a trompe (air compressor powered by running water with no moving parts).

An industrial-sized trompe (within the range of plausibility for an ancient civilization) has the potential to make a society particularly OP very early on despite being so comparatively easy to build. You could:

- Make dry ice
- Make regular ice
- Construct especially efficient blast furnaces with the compressed air
- Have air conditioning / refrigeration

Like >>15025434 this anon's idea, you could couple this with pneumatic equipment to perform some sort of useful work (pneumatic weaponry?).

>> No.15026265

>>15025410
ME is a very useful degree especially if you're going for a career in aerospace. It would also be useful to minor in Computer Science or at least go heavy on elective programming courses since everything is software these days.

>> No.15026268 [DELETED] 
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God tier
>nuclear
>chemical
>petroleum

Normie tier
>mechanical
>electrical
>civil

Shit tier
>geological
>industrial
>environmental

This is the definitive ranking of engineering fields. All others will be promptly discarded.

>> No.15026274

>>15025410
if you are smart you can make an easy $125k a few years after college. my bro has ME degree from a mid-tier college and is making that much ~4 years out.

>> No.15026446

>>15025410
A mechanical engineering degree is really good if you want to be a gaylord

>> No.15026452

>>15025410
You're gonna work with CAD for the rest of your life. Pretty comfy, but boring.

>> No.15026499

>>15025410
It's good with great fundamentals but I would focus on materials science if you like mechanical engineering.

>> No.15026500

>>15026268
isn't it super wrong to put electrical in the same level as civil and mecha? Isn't it as difficult as nuclear?

>> No.15027401

From what I see on the daily >tfw mechanical engineer thread on /biz/ you're going to be working 60 hours a week and will finally make $58k/y after q0 years experience

>> No.15027424

>>15025410
Its like half of physics plus a few sheets of measured surface/density constants... which u could just lab or read urself if u were smarter

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>>15025426
Gears are fun.

>> No.15028008

>>15026268
Ascendant Tier:
Locomotive
Very High Tier:
Electrical
Nuclear
High Tier:
Mechanical
Chemical
Aerospace
Normie Tier:
Civil
Computer
Structural
Shit Tier:
Environmental
Petroleum
Industrial
PooLoo Tier:
Software

>> No.15028032

https://www.colorado.edu/ecee/academics/online-programs/ms-ee-coursera/curriculum/embedded-systems

Will I get a job

>> No.15029919

I don't know if I should change mechanical engineering for computer engineering.
Soldering multi-colored electronics is more interesting than drawing something in CAD, and all these pieces of iron, machine tools, metals

But in the subjects studied, mechanics (physics bodies, hydrodynamics, thermodinamics) is more interesting. Only one isI don’t want to get a job on a mechanical degree. Looks bored

>> No.15029942

Mechanical, Electrical, and Civil are the holy trinity. Anything else is a niche meme discipline. Grind out 4 years at a design firm, get your PE, and you’ll be making $150k+ by mid career.

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>>15025434
Funny enough, I do this with thoughts about food and ancient Rome. Just basic nutritional guidelines and better logistics for transporting dense and dehydrated foodstuffs, along with animal population estimation along roads legions are expected to travel, optimizing travel time effectiveness, etc.
Just the small less revolutionary ways you can apply mathematics to improve or streamline processes, along with making recipes for tasty celebratory dishes in large quantities.

>> No.15029951

>>15025426
L-Lewd...

>> No.15030277

>be me
>graduate in mechanical engineering
>apply for jobs with CAD and shit
>cant find a job for 8 months
>everbody wants engineers with at least 3 years (!) of experience
>apply at some recruiter company which finds jobs for engineers
>3 months later they find a job for me
>its some niche company specialized in cameras and located in some god forsaken place. ~300km away from my current location
>get to talk with them and they offer me 30 pto and 45k€ salary (wich is like 2,4k€ after taxes per month)
>have no other choices and accept
>6 months later my boss talks about my work and how delighted he is to have such a good employee
>I mention salary and raise, which he abruptly stops and tells me to wait for union talks to end in 2 months
>2 months later all employees have to gather on the parking place behind the company building
>he gives us a 800€ payment once and tells us to be thankful and how hard paying this money for the company is
>2 days later - boss buys some 160k 3d-printer for his son, who started as industrial engineer manager at the company last month
>watch some documentary about kindergarten teachers who get minimum ~2,6k€ monthly


dude, life is suffering

>> No.15030580

I have a BSME and work at a relatively small machining company as the in-house engineer. There’s me, , the owner, his worthless kid, 1 BSEE Electrical engineer, one “Manufacturing Engineering Technologist” who is the General Manager and one drafter. Everyone else is a machinist, cnc programmer, QC, welder, painter, shipping, or assembly worker/electrician. Also theres a janitor, truck driver and secretary sluts. About 80 people total. We mostly do contract work for defense and manufacturing and I have to work with fluids occasionally which got me the job as thats my background. The things I design get used by big corporations and I make the place plenty of money. Im sure the electrical guy makes more. Its low stress, I make around 100k a year in a poor part of the U.S. and rarely work over 40 hrs. I mean a real nice house costs 250k here. I dont need a fancy place but I could get one. That said I’m sure plenty of code monkeys have it better than me. I take masters coursework in free time. I fuck around with stuff in the machine shop whenever I want. The rednecks in the shop mostly like me because I’m friendly and don’t treat em like trash. Those poor guys get paid like shit and treated like shit and many work 60+ hrs weekly but the engineers are treated like real people, because we could leave and get another job relatively easily. Its a good gig, when I worked at a larger engineering consulting company there was time crunch and long hours, travel, pressure, competition etc. But if you’re happy with a relatively lower salary and a cushy job just find some small company that needs like one good engineer with a specialty.

>> No.15030617

>>15026500
Is the ranking based on difficulty ot ability to make money?

>> No.15030650

>>15030617
Idk but if it was based on difficulty it's wrong because EE is much harder than mecha or civil

>> No.15030653

>>15030580
is the work engaging? Because you pursue further degrees I assume you are really interested in the subject. Do you use what you studied often? Is the job full of problem solving or it's boring?

>> No.15030654

>>15030277
You suffer because you let yourself be swindled, by the recruiter and now by your boss.
I'd be interested to see how hard yoy really tried

>> No.15030898

>>15026234
Die instantly for hybris. Get a huge gun

>> No.15031646

>>15030654
I know, thats why my plan is to work for around 2 years and then to apply for a job close to my old place. I'll also start my part-time master course in EE after the first year.

I applied for around ~160 jobs over those 8 months and actually started networking at certain jobfaires, but it didnt help much

do you have any tips?

>> No.15032405

>>15025410
mech eng gives you one of the best basis to understand everything else .... its a pathway to GM of a company becuase you can talk to all other engineers, civil, ee, cs, stuct, civil.

I would only do mech eng as ground work (I did a ME)

Civil is to far from ee to have that discussion

ME knows about control theory PLC and Hydraulics flow

EE does not really know navier stokes

Low level ME jobs suck, but don't aim there ....
All manufactureing in west is dead.

CS / IT degrees are meme but can get you way more $$$$$$

>> No.15032634

>>15032405
>mech eng gives you one of the best basis to understand everything else
This is true. Most things we use have moving parts. You can't have cars, airplanes, rockets, robots etc without mechanical engineers being involved. Even solid state things like computers and phones have a physical interface and structure that are designed by mechanical engineers.

>> No.15032638

>>15030650
How tf is EE harder than ME?
ME is about fitting specific physical parts with hyper-specific shapes together for the sake of performing a unique movement, whereas EE is about wiring together some components and then making sure you're getting the right power at the right frequency.
You can represent any electrical circuit of any size as a system of linear equations without losing much information on how everything is meant to fit together, but you can't do the same with physical mechanisms, which need to be visualized as working all alongside one another in a 3D space.

>> No.15033269

>>15032405
Knowledge in ME is interesting. But what job duties to perform in the end, I'm not tough for high positions in the company. Draw details through the cad?

>> No.15034751

>>15032638
Idk but the consensus is that EE (degree not job) is harder. More math more physics (they do more theoretical stuff). Also the concepts are far more abstract.

>> No.15035528

>>15031646
Most online job offerings are fake. It's all networking. There are books on networking you can find

>> No.15036339

>>15025410
Trade school of the academic world.

>> No.15036417

>>15026452
>>15029919
>>15032638
>>15033269

Jesus why does everyone think that as a meche you are just confined to a desk designing doohickey mechanisms in cad..

>> No.15036436

>>15026268
Biological engineer= top

>> No.15036551

>>15036339
what?