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14983487 No.14983487 [Reply] [Original]

There's no biological argument supporting "free will" that wouldn't also give free will to lobsters, snakes, and cows. If that's what you believe cool.

>> No.14983491

>>14983487
fuck, the point is to reach a conclusion or implication because of a lack of free will or determinism
basically, the answer is 'interstellar'

the inception of the big bang indicates either organic determinism or predetermined manifestation.
the point is, keep working really hard, there's probably something after. as scary as that sounds.
>observers of our own absolution

i've had nightmares where it's not even people or environments but kaleidoscoping emotions and conceptions.
we can't even begin to fathom just how fractal our mind is and how that might actually affect will

>tell me im a midwit, i've worked hard to develop these theories

>> No.14983492

>>14983487
When you need a retarded axiom to justify your retarded idea, then maybe the idea itself is just flawed babbling.

>> No.14983507

>>14983487
>There's no biological argument supporting "free will" that wouldn't also give free will to lobsters, snakes, and cows.
>Source: My ass!

>> No.14983510

>>14983507

Well name the argument. Preferably a strictly biological one that doesn't invoke any religions or emotions.

>> No.14983516

>>14983507
What even is free will anyway? The concept itself is incoherent

>> No.14983525

>>14983487
>free will
That's a religious concept, so >>>/his/ >>>/trash/

>> No.14983530

>>14983487
Anti-free-will droning is a mental illness, not an intellectual position. You have deep resentment against the fact that others don't view themselves as souless, mindless sacks of meat.

>> No.14983534
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14983534

>>14983530

Calvinists are soulless mindless sacks of meat? They seem like a happy bunch to me.

>> No.14983536

>>14983534
See >>14983530

>> No.14983540

>>14983510
>My assertion is true by default until you disprove it.
It really, really, REALLY does not work that way.
I've noticed most people who don't believe in free will are mindless drones anyway who indeed may not possess free will.

>> No.14983541

>>14983530

>if we teach people life has more to do with determinism than free will. they wont try as hard!!!!

Is there any actual evidence for this? Also desu I'd rather have a doctor who's intelligent and knowledgeable cut me open. Not someone who "tried hard". wbu?

>> No.14983542

>>14983541
Whom are you quoting? You're losing your mind. See >>14983530

>> No.14983543

>>14983540

Biological determinism is an observation. Free will is a claim. Sorry if your autistic ass can't tell the difference.

>> No.14983545
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14983545

>Biological determinism is an observation.

>> No.14983548

>>14983540
>>14983542
>posts < 1 minute apart
This is really pathetic

>> No.14983550

>>14983545

its weird how the same liberals who claim being gay, trans, etc. is not a choice are ironically enough vehemently against the idea of biological determinism.

>> No.14983552

>>14983548
You're doubling down on demonstrating your mental illness.

>> No.14983555

>>14983552
Who are you talking about? You're going insane

>> No.14983558

>>14983550
It's weird how your whole crew is lashing out agaisnt imaginary boogeymen, displaying signs of paranoia, making up quotes and replying incongruently, as if to demonstrate that determinitardism is a mental illness.

>> No.14983564

>>14983558
You really need to take your meds right now