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evolution and iq Anonymous Mon Nov 7 14:40:05 2022 No.14967424 [Reply] [Original]

if evolution is real then will future humans have like 200 IQ levels

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 7 14:46:03 2022 No.14967434 >>14967424 no, if anything the future humans will have lower IQ than now unless the chinese power ahead with gene editing because they aren't ruled over by muh ethics fagtrons

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 7 14:46:29 2022 No.14967435 >>14967424 It's unlikely that humans will evolve to solve children's puzzles

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 7 14:48:01 2022 No.14967437 >>14967435 wat

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 7 15:02:35 2022 No.14967463 >>14967424 no, unless culling of retards and eugenic programs will happen

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 7 16:16:17 2022 No.14967587 >>14967463 Just shill antinatalism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 7 16:36:42 2022 No.14967618 Probably. Evolution already knows that IQ is fake. But it will keep fucking with us in that way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 7 16:51:26 2022 No.14967642 >>14967424 We are more organized less standing in the way of a Darwinian evolutionary system taking course and everyone is becoming dumber

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 7 16:52:08 2022 No.14967644 >>14967424 You don't know what IQ is, do you. . .

Anonymous Mon Nov 7 17:10:40 2022 No.14967675

It's a tough question to answer there are contrary forces.

On the pro-side for increased intelligence:
- Better nutrition and eduction in the under-developed world
- Return of strong sexual selection (proof: global height increase, has been proven to stem from sexual selection in the Netherlands) which could partly select for intelligence as it can help deliver "high status"

On the negative side:
- Demographic growth favors certain populations -- today only Africa is growing. Question mark as if there are intelligence differences by race, but it could be
- Strong sexual selection could select against intelligence by favoring other factors while stagnant societies do not make intelligence a differentiator for men (as they cannot achieve high status)
- Environmental factors like screes could mess with epigenetics

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 7 17:42:55 2022 No.14967730 Because of the way the test is scored, 100 will always be the average IQ. People may get dumber or smarter on average, and the average IQ will remain 100. You cannot compare IQ scores across large time gaps.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 7 17:54:09 2022 No.14967737 >>14967424 > will future humans have like 200 IQ levels There are no hints that iq is heritable. Proof:Ze (human) world outside your basement.

Anonymous Mon Nov 7 18:04:06 2022 No.14967751

>>14967737
>There are no hints that iq is heritable
Why would you say that, when you obviously have no clue what you're talking about? It would have been better for you to remain silent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ
>Early twin studies of adult individuals have found a heritability of IQ between 57% and 73%,[6] with some recent studies showing heritability for IQ as high as 80%.[7] IQ goes from being weakly correlated with genetics for children, to being strongly correlated with genetics for late teens and adults. The heritability of IQ increases with the child's age and reaches a plateau at 18–20 years old, continuing at that level well into adulthood.

And you:
>no hints

Your parents and grandparents were absolute morons. I hope you don't reproduce.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 7 18:11:51 2022 No.14967772 >>14967424 No, humanity will lose the ability to be conscious. Being aware of one's own existence is an evolutionary dead-end.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 7 18:14:59 2022 No.14967778 >>14967772 Spoken like the most typical 115 IQ, low-awareness golem.

Anonymous Mon Nov 7 18:31:33 2022 No.14967802

A branch of humans will evolve to 200IQ, sure.
Its already happening with people working in high end research building their own enclaves, and these enclaves spread out over all western countries are hyper-connected via high speed travel to facilitate cross pollination. With women being liberated, the distribution of woman IQ will now concentrate rather than be evenly dispersed, even further accelerating the process.

Be prepared for a future of hyper-IQ priest class.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 7 19:19:56 2022 No.14967903 File: 135 KB, 607x467, 94 IQ anon.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >low IQ fancies itself an IQ expert common occurrence

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 7 19:23:36 2022 No.14967912 >>14967730 >You cannot compare IQ scores across large time gaps. you can if they take the same test, idiot

>>	nonnarcissism Mon Nov 7 19:27:42 2022 No.14967927 no. evolution is adaptive pressure. without the situation to provide pressure, you won't automatically get higher iqs.

Anonymous Mon Nov 7 21:34:53 2022 No.14968199

>>14967751
>Your parents and grandparents were absolute morons. I hope you don't reproduce.
Says an idiot believing in studies. There are no double blind ones possible and it can be an culture effect too (proof in your cites for people able to grasp even the simplest effects). Otherwise it would be cultivable. Spare your answer, this side is way to dumb and ignorant to waste my time on it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 00:44:36 2022 No.14968608 >>14967424 >if evolution is real It's not.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 10:44:39 2022 No.14969686 >he thinks IQ is an evolutionary advantage

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 10:46:58 2022 No.14969690 >>14967424 If it's it's useful then it will be selected for. But why would it? >>14967434 Kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 10:50:25 2022 No.14969694 >>14969690 >chinese gene edit themselves to be hyperintelligent 7 foot tall superhumans >americans continue to slowly turn into 5'6 hispanic goblins the future is chinese for sure

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 10:51:25 2022 No.14969695 >>14969694 >hyperintelligent 7 foot tall superhumans And that's a benefit why?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 10:53:51 2022 No.14969698 >>14969695 cope, manlet

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 10:54:53 2022 No.14969700 >>14969698 I knew that you were a fucking moron the minute you promoted genetic modification. And this post confirms it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 10:57:32 2022 No.14969704 >>14969700 >how is being intelligent and tall a benefit moron

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 10:58:56 2022 No.14969708 >>14969704 >Answer a question with a question

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 11:02:13 2022 No.14969710 >>14967424 If evolution was real, it should have already happened by now. Thus, evolution is not real.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 11:03:18 2022 No.14969713 >>14969710 Why is having 200IQ a benefit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 11:04:39 2022 No.14969716 >>14969713 Efficient gathering of resources

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 11:06:17 2022 No.14969721 >>14969716 There's no current problem with the current IQ average doing that in that environment

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 11:07:36 2022 No.14969722 >>14969721 Wrong

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 11:08:08 2022 No.14969723 >>14969722 Then why hasn't natural selection chosen for it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 11:09:38 2022 No.14969726 >>14969723 Ask that to the idiots who believe in natural selection.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 11:10:21 2022 No.14969729 >>14969726 What's stupid about the idea of natural selection?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 11:11:50 2022 No.14969730 >>14969729 You can easily prove that it's wrong. See >>14969710

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 11:13:35 2022 No.14969734 >>14969730 There isn't natural pressure to cause it to happen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 11:15:13 2022 No.14969735 >>14969734 You have autism

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 11:17:14 2022 No.14969741 >>14969735 That's correct, do you have a problem with that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 11:20:16 2022 No.14969747 >>14969741 Yes, I'll pray for you

Anonymous Tue Nov 8 11:23:43 2022 No.14969752

>>14967912
Think about that for a minute. Say someone takes an IQ test at age 15 in 1965. Another person takes an IQ test at age 15 in 2015. You can't compare the two scores because the two tests were so far apart in time. They were each scored on a scale in which the mean score for their time was 100. It doesn't matter if the tests were identical. The scoring is different.
Of course, if you test the older person again at age 65 in 2015, you can compare that to the test taken by the 15 year old in 2015. But since a person's IQ changes over time, that's not going to tell you much.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 11:25:32 2022 No.14969754 >>14968199 Hey, I was out of line to insult you like that. You were wrong, and it was enough for me to point that out. I shouldn't have gone for the slam-dunk and taken it personal. That was childish of me. I apologize.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 11:25:58 2022 No.14969755 >>14967424 If evolution, then OP is a faggot

Anonymous Tue Nov 8 11:32:18 2022 No.14969757

>>14969752
the mean score for that specific test is 100. when the test is being taken is irrelevant. you could make an IQ test and have someone who is 15 in 2022 take it and then someone who is 15 in 2075 take it and it would be perfectly valid. the scoring for the test remains the same

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 8 18:21:27 2022 No.14970183 >>14969755 then evolution isn't real

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 9 03:39:01 2022 No.14971069 File: 33 KB, 540x535, postthiscat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14967424 No because the Industrial Revolution fucked our environment and destroyed the Darwinian conditions we were living

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 9 03:49:33 2022 No.14971085 >>14967424 Yes and no. Look into the Flynn effect.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 9 05:02:15 2022 No.14971157 >>14967424 IQ is has a negative association with reproductive success, therefore IQ will decrease

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 9 05:09:42 2022 No.14971168 File: 289 KB, 866x878, world IQ and population balance.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14967424 The future is looking pretty grim. We will need either neural link or genetic engineering to stop ourselves from literally returning to monkey.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 9 05:13:36 2022 No.14971174 >>14971157 yeah bro, rip all those 300 IQ cavemen, gonna pour one down for them tonight

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 9 05:15:29 2022 No.14971177 >>14971168 >tfw too intelligent to manage a basic task like getting laid

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