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Welcome to STEM Career General!
previously >>14905778

This thread exists to ask questions regarding careers associated to STEM.
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>> No.14936161

>>14935862
If I wanted to design and build new GPUs, CPUs, what kind of classes will I need to take in EE? Also, what kind of programming languages and maths do working in those field involve?

>> No.14936163

>>14936161
Do I need to pursue a Masters and PhD too for those?

>> No.14936170

Are there any jobs for people with a bachelors in molecular biology?

>> No.14936221

>>14935862
>The Job Hopper
Never thought someone would portray me this accurately without ever knowing me.

>> No.14936251

>>14936221
How do you get away with it? Doesn't all the different jobs with short timespans raise any eyebrows at the interview?

>> No.14936259

>>14935862
>EE/math bachelors
>Doing applied math masters + research job in fancy telecomms institute
>Wanna do a phd in mathematical signal processing with heavy ai component (already have some schools in mind)
What should I do afterwards? Maybe a postdoc and then industry? If industry, which jobs should I aim for?

>> No.14936296

>>14936251
Nah, as a dev, you're a commodity for companies.
As long as you don't make it seem personal in interviews, and that you're doing it because you want some new challenges, it's all good.

You don't have to hop companies, you can hop departments.
As long as you have another offer from elsewhere, some companies would suck your dick to not leave. Negotiate something. A higher salary, a managerial position, etc.

>> No.14936343

>>14936221
>>14936296
Advise me, I'm only on my first job. Isn't it scary that you might have to work more at the new place? Or do you just quit if it's too much?

Current job is so comfy it's hard for me to imagine more comfiness, even if I could imagine more pay

>> No.14936372

>>14936343
Yeah, idk. I don't fear having to work more. I'll just do the bare minimum. My first job was shit and with tons of work, so any place now feels like it's less work.

>Or do you just quit if it's too much?
Nah, you take days off, or call in sick and get a doctor's note.
Bare minimum.

>> No.14936378

>>14936161
>>14936163
boomp because I wanna know too. Also, what catergory or specialization does improving 3D printers fall under?

>> No.14936564
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14936564

I'm an applied math undergrad (3rd year), and I took classes on modeling, databases, AI/ML. University is offering internships to research labs and there's quite a few doing ML projects, but they're all under engineering programs (robotics, optics, materials) and also bioinformatics. Is it reasonable to apply or am I out of my depth?

>> No.14936660

>>14935862
Ask me how I know this was made by a midwit tranny

>> No.14936674

>>14936564
you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. don't filter yourself, apply to everything and make them filter you. with a wide enough net, sometimes people will accidentally give you a job offer.

>> No.14936693

>>14936564
Bio phd student here, at least for bioinfo you are absolutely not out of your depth, quality biologists will suck CS specialist dick, only the retards look down on CS majors. If you're at a good uni there should be ample computational bio labs that even have people with pure CS educations working in them. You won't be doing brain surgery on mice anytime soon but you don't need to, all you would need to learn is some basic big science word memorization + stringing R packages together 101 and you're already more useful than 95% of actual biologists.

Turning this around, I'm trying to break into comp bio and I was graced with being in a lab full of coders. I know the basics but I am functionally retarded, you have any advice? What is the fastest and easiest way to get a basic grip on the most important equations/concepts required for ML/modeling/regression/etc.?

Oh and one more thing: by 'big science word memorization' I literally just mean just start reading articles from Nature and Cell until you understand them. Once you do (could take a while to be fair, they get pretty technical), you should be set.

>> No.14936766

>>14936161
a master in nanotechnology

>> No.14936794

>>14936660
>Ask me how I know this was made by a midwit tranny
how did you know it was made by a midwit tranny?

>> No.14936802

>>14935862
based c# sql enjoyer
Don't need anything else, even has Blazor for the front-end now because of WA.

>> No.14936805

>>14936660
ok, how?
I don't get why the python guy is holding sicp though.

>> No.14936919

>>14936564
Yeah I work with large parameters models making about 250k with 2 yoe. I have a physics ug and one of my teammates is applied math. Get some experience at research labs but jump to faang asap. Government/research labs pays shit.

>> No.14937020

Is my advisor supposed to, you know, advise me? I'm in my third year and I feel like I've basically gotten no mentorship. The senior group member doesn't do anything. All I get is "write a paper on X", and then when I write a paper on X I get told "why did you assume Y? I always intended Z, I just never told you that, I thought it was obvious"

How do I get actual future career development

>> No.14937069

>>14937020
>Is my advisor supposed to, you know, advise me?

Sounds like you have a shit advisor. I was in the same boat, albeit with a different experience than what you're describing.

>How do I get actual future career development
Figure out what you'd like to be doing in industry and learn some requisite skills before graduating. You aren't going to be an academic, and you'll be happy about it.

>> No.14937077

>>14937069
It would be ok if I could ask him before hand about expectations, but he won't read through drafts or comment on how something should be until you are done
>how can I comment on if A or B would be better if you haven't written both up and shown them to me yet? Finish both versions of the paper and then ask which I prefer

>> No.14937299

>>14936163
To be actually designing the architecture on the process node yes you would need a masters degree
>>14936161
A lot of what it comes to when designing new gpus is being able to get finer and finer manufacturing with the lithography, which uses lasers. A principle problem here is that shorter wave lengths which yield smaller process nodes have more energetic photons, which are in turn much harder to control due to their energy. It would benefit you to study optics if this is the side of GPU production which you want to pursue.

As for actually designing the chips, you would be writing a lot of things in VHDL or Verilog, and then the compilers synthesis that into all the transistors digitally. If you want to work on chip design, take any classes that deal with FPGAs as this is essentially what you are making a chip designer.

My experience and education is in physics, and less so engineering, so I can not be of much help there, but maybe some other anon can.

>> No.14937306

>>14937283
>"it gives you fundamentals"
You can get these in your spare time by learning how to code. Programming is honestly more of a trade in my mind, and you can learn it by just doing it.

>> No.14937326

>>14937299
this anon is correct. for chip design, if a class has digital logic or Verilog/VHDL in its syllabus, it's a go.

>> No.14937348

>>14937069
Don't let these fuckers exploit you. There are codes of conduct. Look them up. It is often assumed that only students have responsibilities, but that's not true.

>> No.14937359

>>14937348
I wasn't exploited, I just had a disinterested advisor whose approach to research began with disagreement. You probably meant to reply to the other guy's post.

I'm currently happily employed at a large company making almost double the median household income in my state, and still using the expertise that I developed in my field during the PhD.

>> No.14937441

>>14937299
>>14937326
I heard a lot of people regret pursuing Masters and PhDs. Also, do I pay for it myself or get into a company and ha e them pay for it? I don't plan to go the photonics route. Or work in the actual semiconductor manufacturing like TSMC, Global Foundries etc.
I wanna work in Nvidia or AMD. Don't they design their own GPUs and CPUs?

>> No.14937496
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14937496

What will happen if I drop out of school halfway through the senior year of my math degree and move back into my parents house

>> No.14937506

>>14937020
If you roll a shit advisor your academic career is basically over before it began. Unless you're truly exceptional, but of course most people aren't. For all intents and purposes I didn't have an advisor in any but the most formal capacity. I ended up doing a huge amount of work with little benefit to myself or anyone else and was left massively bitter by the experience.

One way is to get involved with postdocs or other early-career academics who can provide actual feedback and perspectives. This will also make you build a network which is always useful. If push comes to shove you can always make them the corresponding author, at that career stage they will need it and might put serious effort in. This means fucking over your advisor, but if it's because they fucked you over hard enough to force your hand then tough shit.

Anyway like the other anon said you're probably best off just eyeing careers in industry, since academia becomes more or less impossible if you fall off the wagon for any reason and nobody cares whose fault it was or wasn't.

>> No.14937524

>>14937348
While that is true in theory the power imbalance is extreme and in practice you will have a very hard time enforcing anything from the codes of conduct. You can pursue the matter through "official" channels, but unless there's very egregious offences involved (sex with students will suffice) it is very unlikely to amount to anything.

Most likely the university will not initiate anything, and even if they did all that would happen is that the university investigates itself and suprisingly finds itself not guilty. Meanwhile your advisor will certainly know, you will burn all bridges not only to your advisor but probably the rest of the department and you'll have a reputation as a difficult person forever. The end result is the advisor keeps their position and the PhD student will be smoked out without a degree, or possibly with a Masters or whatever the standard consolation prize is.

>> No.14937537

>>14937524
You can always use the internet to fuck the reputation of an academic.

>> No.14937557

>>14937537
That doesn't really help you as a PhD student wanting more support. Moreover, it will probably come back to bite you even more so than trying to initiate intra-university procedures.

>> No.14937561

>>14937557
You use it as leverage if things go wrong. Most academics are like e-girls, living off their perceived image. Make sure you have evidence like video recordings of them - can even turn them into memes.

>> No.14937565

>>14937441
>I heard a lot of people regret pursuing Masters and PhDs.
You can regret anything if you try hard enough to regret it.
> Also, do I pay for it myself or get into a company and ha e them pay for it?
Depends on company, your country of residence, and country of study. Some countries have universities that fund the entire graduate degree for their citizens, some countries have have universities that fund the entire degree for anyone with one such country being Norway. Some companies will also fund you if you are pursuing a technical masters. Usually for industry, a PhD is not needed unless it is in a very cutting edge field, such as plasma physics, or something like Synth Chem for pharma jobs.
>I don't plan to go the photonics route.
I think its the coolest one, but hey you do you.
>Don't they design their own GPUs and CPUs?
They do, but they are limited by what can be manufactured. I am nearly certain you could email one of your professors, or someone who works in this field, to get much more accurate and detailed information than I could give you. Good luck anon.

>> No.14937593

>>14937565
Thanks for the info anon. I'd go into photonics but I sucked at all those chapter related to light in high school. But then again, I somehow picked EE despite also hating the current and static electricity chapters in high school physics. Solving circuits gets tiring after a while.

>> No.14937597

I'm 34. how stupid is it to go to grad school.
am i too old? should i give up on phd? should i be looking to start a family instead?
my career path is fucking useless. i need to hop up the ladder somehow.

>> No.14937637

>>14937597
There's no age limit and you're not getting any younger, but simultaneously a PhD for career purposes is a bad idea 99% of the time so maybe think twice about where you'd like to be and exactly how a PhD would help you get there.

>> No.14937680

>>14936161
>>14936163
>>14936378
Hello future computer designers.
Listen up.
>>14937299
This guy is somewhat on point.
To make things clearer, understand the physical, actual manufacturing process for chips of any sort is COMPLETELY DIVORCED from the design process.
If you want to work with the actual manufacturing, you'll need PhDs and long years of experience with the bare handful of companies that actually manufature chips.
And every step of the process depends on a fuck ton of suppliers for different machines, so not sure you'll ever get the chance to design more than 1 (one) thing.
If you want to design chips, simply learn the design pipeline as it is industry standard today.
This means you learn architectures etc. and you learn to describe your stuff using HDLs and creating the so called IP blocks, which then get transformed into an actual physical layout by software. The layout itself can and must be modified under various parameters to fit the manufacturing process you intend to use.
All the software licenses cost an arm and a leg, but free to students.
You'll need to know VHDL/Verilog in and out, and a fuck ton more things.
FPGAs are your starting point, if you don't know what they are look it up and you should understand why.
That's my two cents.
Someone else can add more stuff and/or correct me if need be.
I guess my main point is if you want to DESIGN chips for a living you will have fuck all to do with designing and improving the actual manufacturing process, and vice-versa.
Such is the life of the engineer in this godforsaken century.
Good luck

>> No.14937711

>>14937637
i guess for career purposes there's really no functional difference between a master's and a phd?

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>>14937680
>To make things clearer, understand the physical, actual manufacturing process for chips of any sort is COMPLETELY DIVORCED from the design process.
Yeah I think I could have been more clear in my post about that. Been a while since I touched VHDL as I am a simulation monkey for now.

>> No.14938149

>>14935862
>burnt out js dev who knows 17 JS frameworks here
I'm just going to bed now, at almost 5 AM ET, on a Sunday night, but at least I know I make more money than all of you.

>> No.14938344

>>14937680
idk which country you're talking about. Maybe USA? I'm not in USA, I'm Bangladeshi. We have some companies like Neural System and Ulkasemi that are semiconductor design companies. If I worked in them, will I get accepted into AMD, Nvidia, Intel etc? My plan after undergrad is to work in a few years in a semiconductor design company, then after some experience under my belt, immigrate and work in AMD. I've want to be involved in the frontier of computer design and iirc AMD has recently made one of the worlds first exascale computer.

>> No.14938364

As an EE student focusing on Embedded Systems, should I take a lecture about battery chemistry or analog mixed signal design. I know both are not directly related but I need to choose one.

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>Looking for chemist jobs on job boards
>Most are in the north east paying $30/hr max
>Most of the good listings are over a month old
>Local jobs in my area are paying $18/hr
>Have one interview after three weeks of searching
>MFW
Holy hell, where are all the jobs?!

>> No.14938795

>>14937496
Your options are:
1)Kick yourself in the ass for the rest of your life for not finishing your degree
or
2)Kick yourself in the ass for the rest of your life for having a degree. But being unable to support yourself and have spending money.

>> No.14938860

>>14935862
Do you people not realize everyone is being pushed towards digital work? And along with saturation, low wages, and high competition, this will make you aliante yourself from the physical world over time?

>> No.14938879

>>14938860
You mean to say: "Our jobs will be outsourced to India and China again and everyone will be fighting for the scraps that stayed behind."

>> No.14938901

>>14938364
analog mixed, this shouldn't even be a choice bro wtf

>> No.14938938

>>14938789
Stolen by foreigner shitskins thanks to the kikes.

>> No.14939046

I’m a successful analyst at a big tech company with 10 years experience. I have this crazy idea that I want to do a guest lecture at a college both to give back to the community and to bolster my resume. Has anyone done this? My local cc has an analyst associates degree/Boot Camp thing. I can donate my time (they can’t afford my rates, lol). I don’t want to become a faculty member. I think I’d want to just give advice or do a lecture or something.

>> No.14939117

>>14937506
>corresponding author,
Does this mean co-author? I.e. insulting them by not giving them more (undeserving) credit?

>> No.14939125

>>14939046
Did you find it tough to last 10 years in the work force? I'm getting through year 3 and can't bring myself to do more than 3 hours of work per day. I get incredibly restless and perturbed by having to sort out either non existent, unimportant, or tedious task requirements. On the other hand, I can work 4 hours without leaving my desk when programming personal things.

>> No.14939192

>>14937593
>I'd go into photonics but I sucked at all those chapter related to light in high school.
Ah hey man high school is its own unique thing. While the basic stuff is a lot of geometry, the study of advanced optics looks a lot like advanced EM, at least at the undergrad level. I can speak too much on the exact content of adv. optics courses but Quantum Optics seems like it is a cool avenue of study from what I have looked up while posting in this thread. Specifically Quantum lithography seems cool as fuck, and I think anyone who can speak with expertise on it will be at the cutting edge of semiconductor manufacture.

>> No.14939197

>>14939046
> I have this crazy idea that I want to do a guest lecture at a college both to give back to the community and to bolster my resume.
Contact whatever relevant student body organization, I am sure they would interested in arranging something like that. I know at my time in university my student association did that a lot. It was pretty cool for networking at seeing where you wanted to branch out to in either industry or academia. Very cool you wanna do that though.

>> No.14939288

>>14939125
>>14939046
I switched employers and industries about every 3 years. If I get too comfortable I get bored and I run out of fucks to give. So switch on your own terms, before you’re fired or put on a PIP. By switching every so often I get new challenges and stay focused. Also, a lot of problems I’ve seen elsewhere tend to also show up in other industries, so having a diverse skill set and knowledge of several industries makes me pretty useful.

>> No.14939610

>>14937680
>>14937711
Can I switch to working in AMD, Nvidia, Intel if I work in a semiconductor design company?
and like I said here,>>14938344
would those companies consider a H1B visa for me if I get some work experience under my belt?

>> No.14939642

>>14939610
Yes, yes. Don't you know that's what most of the engineers from India are doing lol

>> No.14939649

>>14939117
Corresponding author is the last author. The only authorship positions of real merit are first author and corresponding author. Usually the PhD student who actually did the work is the first author, and the advisor whose idea it was is the corresponding author. However these things get political fast, and despite the supposed intellectual contributions implicated by authorship it is not uncommon for the advisor/PI to be corresponding author even if they only ever saw the paper just before it was sent to review.

>> No.14939683

>>14939649
Thank you, high effort replyer. Knowing this makes the other post make sense. I wish you good luck in academia. Gosh I hope you don't get depressed from that

>> No.14939690

>>14935862
>tfw top secret clearance

I'll never be unemployed bros

>> No.14939694

>>14939690
Bro I've been trying to get regular secret clearance, how do you get top? I know I can just apply to positions that offers it but are there other methods

>> No.14939702

>>14939642
I thought the H1Bs from India are software engineers, I wonder if the USA employers would give us Bangladeshis the same priority as our Indian counterparts. Also, I imagine it'd be pretty competitive in companies like AMD, Intel.

>> No.14939926

>>14938789
At least you have jobs in your area.

>> No.14940492

>>14939288
Do you completely switch industries to something that's completely unrelated to your current field? How's that possible without restarting your career progression? I want to do something like this too because I have a lot of varying interests but I'm afraid of becoming a jack of all trades master of none and still being at the mid-level stage in my career by middle-age.

>> No.14940702

>>14935862
What are the current best places to find aggregate data on grad school programs (stipends, class sizes, grad rates, etc.).

Trying to recommend stuff to a student I'm advising. Years ago I used gradschoolshopper pretty effectively, but looking at it now it looks like 90% of it is paywalled now, so does anyone know a good alternative?

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>>14939690
tfw Secret with SAPs

>> No.14941546

bros im balding

>> No.14941576

>>14940492
I have completely switched industries three times in my career: Insurance, consulting, and now tech. My skillset as an analyst has 2 major categories:

1.) technical data stuff. Knowing things about databases, data models, architectures, how to design metrics, etc. knowing this stuff is pretty much the same everywhere (slight differences exist, like which flavor of SQL they use, or if they use Tableau or Power BI, but those are pretty minor and learning a new one is fast and easy if you're already an expert in an equivalent tech). Basically, this 'tree trunk' of knowledge gets thicker with every project.

2.) business stuff. On every project, I learn how the technical data stuff interacts with the business. As a result, I know basically how marketing data stuff works because I've worked on a few projects where I was an analyst for a marketing department. I also did some projects on forecasting, so I know how data science, finance and operations teams think about forecasting. I learned insurance laws when I worked there, etc. Basically, these experiences grow a new branch on my knowledge tree (and sometimes grows the thickness of existing branches too!)

I've found that my diverse industry experience means I can pretty easily hop into a brand new industry and figure out how to add value almost immediately-- so immediate that even in my most recent job interview, even though I had never worked in this industry I said some insightful things that impressed my boss enough to give me the job. Often the problems in one business are similar to problems in other businesses.

If you want variety, consulting can definitely be the way to go. Depending on the skills you have, (and the consultancy you work for) you could do really varied things but still have continuity to your home office/practice.

>> No.14941610

>>14935862
Redpill me on math. I'm doing engineering but I am really enjoying my math courses. What's the schooling like for a math degree and what are the job prospects like? or is AI going to make mathematicians redundant?

>> No.14941633

>>14936161
I've never touched 'building' CPUs but a lot of the circuit designs relies on graph theory and minimizing optimizations. As for programming there will be existing software manufactures as >>14937680
states, but they are probably using C/++ or some LISP derivative.

>>14936163
'Physical building' masters, software Masters (Undergrad if you get yourself into some good research/internship opportunities), Operator working in the fab you don't even need a Highschool diploma


Asianometry on YouTube covers a lot Semiconductor stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W0YdacKwUo

>> No.14941648

>>14941610
>What's the schooling like for a math degree

Watch this: https://archive.org/details/HalmosMathematician/I+Want+to+Be+a+Mathematician+-+A+Conversation+with+Paul+Halmos.mkv

>what are the job prospects like?

You'll have to apply yourself to a specific industry independently (or get the double major) and you work in that industry with the added benefit of being able to do non toolbox math (which can be quite lucrative) or you teach math.


>AI going to make mathematicians redundant?
No learn the implications of Rice's Theorem

>> No.14941677

>>14941633
Is it in the the actual semiconductor companies like TSMC or AMD/Intel? I have no chance of getting in those without a Masters?

>> No.14941740

>>14941677
Your chances will increase, but I've found the more education you have under your belt the less job searching you have to do.

>> No.14942078

>>14941677
>this anon wants to work at fucking tsmc
hope you got slanty eyes bro

>> No.14942080

>brehs be walking into tsmc interviews with pieces of tape on their eyelids just to have a shot

>> No.14942204

>>14942078
Why would you want to work in tsmc bro, or any fab for the matter

>> No.14942371

>>14941740
>>14942078
>>14942204
No, I actually DON'T want to work in TSMC. I just asked what kind of path should I take to eventually end up working in NVIDIA/AMD/Intel? I have some semiconductor design companies in my country that take orders from above companies. Should I work in those to get experience and would that eventually help me get into those companies or will I be stuck with semiconductor companies like TSMC? I don't wanna build new chips or transistors. I wanna design and build new CPUs and GPUs.

>> No.14942387

>>14942371
>I wanna design and build new CPUs and GPUs.
In that case a master's degree in EE is a minimum. Few work on CPUs and GPUs, and most are so complex they just work on tiny parts of one. Complexities are out of control, judging by the hardware security issues that we see in the news.
Most likely you will start by designing IP blocks, but you can work yourself up. Also many do their own design on Github, where RISC-V is popular and a bit hyped. Still, a portfolio is a nice thing to show a potential employer.

>> No.14942398

>>14938789
what field?

>> No.14942411

>>14942387
wait, really a portfolio? I thought that was important only for CS people. Is there literally any position I can go into in those companies with an undergrad and then will those companies pay for my masters because masters are really expensive in my country. Also, what kind of companies should I work for to get atleast some experience because my country definitely doesn't have any company near NVIDIA/intel/AMD. I planned to specialize in AI/ML and computer architecture because I heard AI/ML is very important in these fields.

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>less than a 3.0 gpa
>no research experience
>no letters of rec
Is it over? I’m seriously considering killing myself.

>> No.14942670

>>14942398
Lab Tech.
Which is a shitty and unpredictable field anyways.
I'm trying to break out of being a lab tech since I've mostly done physical testing. But it's been tough.

>> No.14942795

>>14942475
Don’t dew it!

No it’s not over. What degree? What work do you want to do?

>> No.14942811

>>14942795
>What degree? What work do you want to do?
Chemistry degree, BA. I wanted to go to graduate school for computational chemistry. It seems like a very interesting area. My parents wanted me to go to medical school (and some fields there are interesting to me, like radiology), but that ship has long since sailed.
Really, I just want a job that pays the bills, and doesn’t make me want to die.

>> No.14943012

>>14942204
Why should I avoid fabs?
What else should I be doing that's so superior?
>inb4 600K per year WFH CS job.

>> No.14943016

>>14942371
What do you mean "stuck with semiconductor companies like TSCM"
they are literally the best semiconductor company in the world.

>> No.14943139

>>14942411
>wait, really a portfolio? I
Sure. Github is full of VHDL- and Verilog-projects. The CS crowd takes the limelight but EE is also there.

>Is there literally any position I can go into in those companies with an undergrad and then will those companies pay for my masters because masters are really expensive in my country.
Not sure, but you could always ask for an internship.

>Also, what kind of companies should I work for to get atleast some experience because my country definitely doesn't have any company near NVIDIA/intel/AMD.
What country? I'd check the national job ads sites and search for keywords such as FPGA, VHDL, Verilog etc. People who ask for such expertise are the companies you want to talk to.

>I planned to specialize in AI/ML and computer architecture because I heard AI/ML is very important in these fields.
AI/ML is hyped to high heavens, most likely you will need a wider foundation before specialising.

>> No.14943142

>>14942811
With a master's degree you can always apply to your national patent office to become an Examiner.

>> No.14943194

>>14942811
I was a Chem major for a semester. It wasn’t what I thought it’d be so I switched to Econ.
A lot of what I wanted chem to be is solving puzzles (find the chemical composition of this mystery substance using a scale, a Bunsen burner, and a magnet). In a way, my current job as an analyst is basically all solving puzzles. Puzzles to figure out how the data fit together, puzzles about what peoples intentions are.
It’s pretty fulfilling work. Analysts don’t really need any specific degree, just learn some SQL and Excel to get a beginner role. Your Chem skills could be useful if your area has any oil & gas/chemical/engineering/material science type companies. But you can add value as a junior analyst anywhere.

Apply to some junior analyst roles ASAP- a recession is coming and lots of companies will quit hiring! (I graduated into the Great Recession so I know how much being underemployed for a year or two can suck)

>> No.14943420

>>14943016
But I heard they got Japan-tier work-life balance and I don't wanna off myself over my job. Also, I just am more interested in the actual computers.
>>14943139
How do I make designs by myself? That seems like the kind of thing you do after lots of research in a big company with tons of funds. Do I literally just make some random designs and post them on my portfolio? And so, I shouldn't take the AI/ML electives? I mean, yeah I'll need to be specialized in something else which is why I'm also picking Electronics electives. But, would the AI/ML classes make a difference in my resume or is it all just a waste of time and money?

>> No.14943493

>>14939694
Apply to entry level Northrop/Lockheed/Boeing positions.
99% of them need a secret clearance and they’re set up to churn out new clearance applications to send to the government

>> No.14943515

>>14943420
they be got dat drip, nigga.

>> No.14943519

>>14939694
why would you want one unless you need it for work?
and if you need it for work they will get it for you.

>> No.14943534

>>14939702
>Also, I imagine it'd be pretty competitive in companies like AMD, Intel.
If you are non-white you will be fast tracked at Intel. White Americans are dying to replace themselves with brown skin people. Come on in.

>> No.14943546

I have a CS meme degree and have been working as a field techinician. What do I need to do to become an engineer who designs weapons to bomb brown people?

>> No.14943607

>>14943534
But I heard its because in USA, not enough people study EE or go into these field so they're suffering a shortage and has to import workers. But, yeah, Intel's one of the top sponsorers of H1B visas so I got high hopes.

>> No.14943632

>>14943546
see the first sentence of:
>>14943493

>> No.14943707

>>14938789
>majored in cemistry
>expects a job
Retard

>> No.14943743

>>14943607
EE is one of the bigger ones, it's just that they go to software jobs lol

>> No.14943820

>>14943743
I thought most switch to CS by the 2nd or 3rd year. And most of them don't specialize in chips or semiconductors. Here, in my uni we have 69 EE in my batch and 800-900 CS and CE. And most of the EE will specialize in Power or Communications.

>> No.14943850

>>14943420
>How do I make designs by myself?
Code some FPGAs to do some cool stuff you thinj would be fun to automate. Like make an E-bike, and use an FPGA to regulate charging it or something.

>> No.14943905

>>14943850
But I don't have a lot of disposable income to spend.

>> No.14943997

>>14943420
>How do I make designs by myself?
Start designing, in VHDL or Verilog. You can also try simulators such as
https://github.com/hneemann/Digital
>That seems like the kind of thing you do after lots of research in a big company with tons of funds.
Not at all, hobbyists and students do this.
>Do I literally just make some random designs and post them on my portfolio?
Sure.
>And so, I shouldn't take the AI/ML electives?
Do that too but just don't expect immediate payoff. All knowledge helps but much takes time before you see how it helped you.
>I mean, yeah I'll need to be specialized in something else which is why I'm also picking Electronics electives. But, would the AI/ML classes make a difference in my resume or is it all just a waste of time and money?
Knowledge is never a waste.

>>14943905
Some FPGA boards are really cheap, some more expensive have a large student discount.

A zero investment project would be to take the stewardship of this wiki entry:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki//aig/_Alternative_ISA_General
It has a lot of glaring holes such as no entry for RISC-V. It has been edited since early 2021 but need a lot more work. That could be you. And you would not have any problems with low end autistic editors on Wikipedia, editing that is a waste of time unless you spend all your waking hours defending your every edit. The Installgentoo Wiki is more laid back.

>> No.14944022

>>14943997
I attended an AI/ML workshop and everything they showed there seems like stuff that I could learn by myself. Would self-taught AI expert be acceptable to potential employers? It's because courses here are hella expensive.

>> No.14944127
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14944127

What are some exciting fields I can pivot into as a civil engineering graduate that are tangentially related to my degree? Willing to do an MSc.

>> No.14944573

Is working for a well-known company an important thing to have on your resume?
Like does it offer an aura of prestige or does no one care?

>> No.14944605

Ok guys give it to me straight. Got the meme degree (bs in physics) 4 years ago (2018) but stayed an extra year to try to get my CS degree (had serious fomo) . Burned out on the last semester and became super depressed then fucking covid happened and I feel like the last 3 years have just zoomed by. Worked through my mental and now am finally apply to jobs and trying to build to my resume. So how fucked am I guys? Am I basically relegated to HS phys teacher? Do I need to back to school and at least get an MS or something? Every position I see that has BS physics as a requirement are all 2023 new grad positions and it's fucking killing me that I was too dumb and depressed to apply to these 3 years ago.

>> No.14944612

>>14944605
I was in a worse position than you.
Graduated in 2017 and had no job since. Recently just got a an offer at a large F500 company.

You can leave out the date you graduated and apply for entry level roles. Just be prepared to answer what you were doing since graduating because there are lots of judgemental people out there.

If I can do it, so can you.

>> No.14944616

>>14944605
Same here (covid burn-out). Its like my hope for mankind has been shut since 2020 and I'm only just now starting to recover and feel energetic enough to apply for jobs but now I have a 2 year gap that I don't know how to explain. Might have to get an MSc if this gets too drastic.

>Just be prepared to answer what you were doing since graduating because there are lots of judgemental people out there.
What did you tell them? I have no idea what to say.

>> No.14944618

>>14944616
2nd part of my post meant for >>14944612

>> No.14944624

Can I get jobs that are both white collar and blue collar as an electrical engineer ? Like some work at a desk, then some work in the field

>> No.14944639

>>14944612
That's great to hear I really needed some hope thanks. I wish you the best if you go through with the offer
Like this anon >>14944616 and many others my main fear is trying to explain myself, what I did over the years etc. But if you can do it so can I. I am gaining confidence and I am also starting to realize it's a numbers game I just need to get out there and try.

>> No.14944646

>>14944624
Power obviously

>> No.14944680

Bros, give me ideas for jobs to apply for, have ME degree. Really don't wanna service fucking excavators any longer fml

>> No.14944827

>>14944605
>>14944612
I am in a similar position. B.Sc. in physics, but I'm 25 and have no job experience (Europoor btw, a Bachelor's is not considered a full degree by many people). I could get an EE B.Sc. in 2 years while working student jobs on the side, but I'm not sure if this makes sense. Maybe I should just try to get regular work right now. Or try to get a physics Master's, but I'd really prefer engineering. I really don't know what the best move is.

>> No.14944848

>>14944680
HVAC
V
A
C

>> No.14944852

>>14944573
it matters. if you can get google or microsoft or something similar on your resume, it draws recruiters to you like flies.

>> No.14944972

>>14944022
>Would self-taught AI expert be acceptable to potential employers?
I don't know. The AI/ML scene is a bit of a Klondyke, just like programming was in the 80s, and at least back then you needed no formal background to get a good job, just practical experience. So it is at least a possibility.

>> No.14945272

>>14944624
power like the other anon said
i work in power
I hate it lmao

>> No.14945304

>>14944624
Most engineering jobs are a mix of both. Even MEP CADmonkeys go out to the field to survey the site occasionally.
>>14944852
I'm not talking about FAGMAN, just regular companies that have a well-known image.

>> No.14945307

>>14945272
How is the pay?
Besides CS, power seems to be where all the big incomes are. Maybe I'm mistaken.

>> No.14945419

>>14944852
Does this also apply to a postdoc from a prestigious uni if moving to industry? I know in academia the institute name is less important and that postdocs don't count as work experience in general.

>> No.14945439

Is it possible to get hired as an engineer in America if you have a bachelor's-equivalent degree from a lesser-known university in Paraguay?

>> No.14945443

>>14945439
just come here illegally and invent some sob story about how you built a car out of tree branches in your village when you were 11 and now you are here to raise money to cure your mom's cancer or something. HR roasties would trip over themselves to hire you

>> No.14945444

>>14945439
Fuck off, we're full.

>> No.14945460

>>14945439
stay in your own country

>> No.14945479

I'm starting a dead end job as a Systems Engineer for gov contractor on Monday.

I can't believe it ended up like this.

>> No.14945485

>>14945479
>dead end
>gov contractor
my dear retard, you have virtually guaranteed promotions at 2, 5, and 10 years

>> No.14945512

Guys, how do I get a scholarship for Masters in a US university as a foreigner? A lot of people in my country go to the USA for Masters but I heard its ultra competitive. And can I later upgrade my student visa to a green card or citizenship? What do universities consider the most when evaluating foreign Masters applicants?

>> No.14945515

>>14945512
see:
>>14945444
>>14945460

>> No.14945516

>>14937506
A shit system for sure

>> No.14945520

>>14938795
Yea it's fucked bros needs to be reformed

>> No.14945555

>>14945515
no. There's nothing for me in this country.

>> No.14945591

>>14945555
if you stay in your country you will at least live
day of reckoning is coming in the US

>> No.14945612

>>14945591
The first thing on my to-do list after I get PR status is get a gun. I always liked guns but can't get them in this shithole.
Also, I wouldn't be so sure about living in here. Setting aside all the myriad ways to die in a third world country, there is a worrying increase of gangs barging into homes and murdering people. You see, the gangs are all connected to politicians. So they make a call to the politician, the politician tells the police not to bother them. Then the gang goes to someone's house and breaks down their door and murders them. This generally happens to people that doesn't toe the ruling party's line but even then, the gangs sometimes murder people for absolutely no reason. Atleast, you get a gun to defend yourself in the US.

>> No.14945627

>>14945479
>systems engineer
>dead end
Nigga what? Don’t you also have security clearance now? U got the coziest and most versatile engineering career ahead of you dumbass. Just remember to change jobs every two years for more salaey

>> No.14945946

>>14945512
>What do universities consider the most when evaluating foreign Masters applicants?
The wealth of your parents.

>> No.14946002

Realistically, what can I do with a PhD in mechanical engineering (in structural integrity related subfield)?

>> No.14946023

Is specialising in Semiconductors for my MSc a good or bad idea at the moment?

>> No.14946024

>>14946023
Look into superconductors
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5753050/

>> No.14946043

>>14946024
Well I'm really interested in Semiconductor technology and want to work with them, but I've also heard Fab work is horrible.

>> No.14946060
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14946060

I'm going to have to probably wait a whole year until next fall to take one last fucking course that I need to graduate.

Do you think I can still go for jobs right now even though I don't actually have my degree yet?

>> No.14946100

>>14935862
You're forgetting the Walter White path of DNM vendors.

>> No.14946155

>>14945946
wtf then what's the point of the scholarship?

>> No.14946176

>>14945591
Mutts are really clueless and don't know how good they have it. For all the corruption and libtardation in your country now its still nowhere near even a quarter as bad as any random 3rd world shithole.

>> No.14946185
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14946185

Any tips on interviewing for a team leader position at a research institute?

Or ideas where I could find some?

>> No.14946233

>>14946023
Bruh why wouldn't it be a good time? Chips Act, New fabs being built in Ohio and Arizona, Chinas entire semiconductor industry getting castrated like a week ago. WW3 is going to start because of semiconductors. China will soon invade Taiwan. Guess what Taiwan makes? 65% of the world's semiconductors and almost 90% of the advanced chips. Big hiring surges at ASML right now. Companies will be lining up to suck your dick.

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14946234

Current job : maintenance technician in german big auto company
Future plan: going back to university to get a diploma / bachelore in engineering
But which one ? Electrical , mechanical, industrial ?
Currently prefer electrical or industrial

>> No.14946241

>>14946185
>wants a team lead research position
>can't Google to find interview tips
You've already been filtered

>> No.14946242

>>14946043
I've been working as a field service engineer for a few months now and its great. Inside the fab, 12 hour shifts. It is a really nice job and I can see myself doing it for 20+ years. I do prefer working with my hands a little, so if you do to you'd probably like it. But, if you have a MSc you probably wont be in the fab at all, or only sporadically for complicated upgrades/maintenance.

>> No.14946263

>>14945627
>>14945485
I know it's a comfy job, but it feels like I am kneecapping myself. I'm only a year and a half into my career and I've done barely any technical work, and I can tell this one is gonna be paperwork monkey stuff.

Regardless, I am going to try and keep an open mind as best as possible

>> No.14946669

My work gave me a laptop that is more powerful than my personal laptop.
Do I use it to game?

>> No.14946682

>>14946242
Are you in the clean room for 12 hours???

>> No.14946702

>>14946669
No

>> No.14946706

>>14946242
>Inside the fab, 12 hour shifts.
Yeah that's exactly what I don't want, think I'll just do a general EE MSc and go into design

>> No.14946714

>>14946702
This unlocks a whole new batch of games though.

>> No.14946720

>>14946242
Are you the ASMLnigger?
How many field service engineers are at your work?
Is it like a huge team where you can't know everyone or is it like a small SOCOM team?

>> No.14946727

>>14946714
Don’t use your work computer for entertainment in your free time

>> No.14946731
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14946731

>>14946727
Why not, bitch?

>> No.14946775

>>14946731
I just wouldn’t do it, I guess it’s a matter of personal integrity. Why not buy your own gaming computer, you might even enjoy it more that way? I’m not sure what games you play but your employer might find out and they might not like it.

>> No.14946823

Should I go with RF microwave engineering or embedded software engineering with focus on motor control and battery management

>> No.14946839

>>14946155
This is all about future donations to the university.

>> No.14946850

>>14946023
Semiconductors is a safe field. >>14946024
Supercondtors is a high risk high payoff field. Remember high Tc imploded in the 90s.

>> No.14946866

Turned down the chance to get a job with a security clearance.
I was on the last step of the paperwork. This process has been ongoing for months. They told me I needed to go to the police station and have my fingertips taken.
I got freaked out. Just the idea of my finger prints being permanently on file in some fed database. I don't know about that man.

>> No.14946904

>>14946866
/pol/cel

>> No.14946917

>>14946866
Bet you also thought the vaccines would kill everyone didn't you

>> No.14947107

>>14946823
RF 100%
(assuming you’re in the US)

>> No.14947122

>>14946866
what shithole country are you living in where your fingerprints aren't already on file?

>> No.14947152

I'm working on a PhD in optics right now at a very good university. If I wanted to shift into a different subset of physics like high energy or plasma physics, are there any avenues open? Obviously not through academia itself, but would there potentially be a route through working at a national laboratory?

>> No.14947404

>>14947152
High energy physics? You might be limited to CERN and similar stuff. Optics is a wide field that can give you an exit to industry if you find academia too stifling/corrupt/moneyless.

>> No.14947471

>>14935862
Disgusting eternal-2019 wojak dust
all fields

>> No.14947703

>>14946682
No, at most like 10. Sometimes only 2 or 3, just depends on the day and how many tools need work. The senior guys usually only work until lunch and then get replaced and leave for the day. I'm still 'shadowing' so I'm there all day.
>>14946720
My shift is like 12 guys, multiple have been there for 20+ years. everyone is really competent and chill.

>> No.14947747

>>14946043
have you considered working for a fabless chip company? i work for one and it seems like most engineers just do design shit and occasionally don their suits for prototyping or something.
i might be wrong though. i just write software for the damned things.

>> No.14947847

>>14947703
>No, at most like 10. Sometimes only 2 or 3, just depends on the day and how many tools need work
So what do you do during the time you aren't in the clean room?
>The senior guys usually only work until lunch and then get replaced and leave for the day.
wtf? how does that affect their pay?

>> No.14947850

>>14946904
This entire site is pol
>>14946917
No but I never got it because it was a needless risk.
>>14947122
The United States.

>> No.14947862

>>14945307
Pay is ass, 70k new grad. The engineers I interact with feels more like a fixer than any actual engineering work. To be fair I work in one utility and can't say the same for others, but knowing how it is, they don't get paid much higher even with years of experience.

>> No.14947864

>>14945479
Nigga what the fuck are you talking about
>dead end
You'll definitely be a paper pusher though.
This faggot said everything I was gonna say >>14945627, the other anon >>14945485 called you a retard which I was gonna say too.

Try to get some technical work done and if you can't, try to retain your engineering skills. Enjoy the comf.

>> No.14947875

>>14947847
I live really close so if there are no tools that need work I just go back to my apartment. A lot of the time people are only working half shifts, but still getting paid full time. Technically they are on standby. But its normal for one guy to work from 0700-1300, and then get swapped out by a guy who will take 1300-2100.

>> No.14947916

>>14947875
So if there are no tools that need work you just go back home and still get paid for the day? wtf that sounds based. Surely I am misunderstanding something here?

>> No.14947923

>>14947862
70k is not amazing but not terrible, I'd say it is average in engineering for new grads.
The experienced salaries I have seen for power clear six figures easily, so once you are experienced you will probably shoot up quickly.

>> No.14947929

>>14947916
Nope, that's exactly right. I really like the job a lot. Happy to answer any questions form anons thinking about field service lithography work.

>> No.14947935

>>14947929
Do you have discord?

>> No.14947937

>>14947935
No, I'm straight.

>> No.14948015

>>14947152
>high energy or plasma physics
National Ignition Facility in California probably. Why dont you like your Optics options anon, are they not looking to great?

>> No.14948153

>>14947937
I'm a girl.

>> No.14948172

>>14948153
Forgot to mention I'm mtf trans, if that matters.

>> No.14948174

>>14948153
prove it

>> No.14948186

>>14947850
>The United States.
You've given your fingerprint plenty of times if you've ever been to the DMV or got a passport and the government has open access to it whether you think so or not

>> No.14948191

>>14948186
no one ever asked me for fingerprints when i got driver's license or passport
they just took my picture

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>>14948191
ok cool bro you've never given away your fingerprint ever you are basically off the grid, you are a ghost to the fbi and cia, you are using nordvpn right now and ublock, probably connecting to this site via tor at max security settings, congrats on turning down a decent job, now big brother will never find you, all your hairs on your head are accounted for, you wear a hairnet everywhere just in case someone decides to sequence your DNA, you are a genius well done

>> No.14948282

>>14948206
why are you this mad though?
is it that important to you that the government has my finger print?

>> No.14948440

>>14948153
Hey... :))))

>> No.14948492

>>14948282
you are projecting, 1) there is nothing in my posts indicating anger my man, 2) no it’s not important to me, it’s important to you which is why you turned down a job offer over it. Look into a mirror you paranoid fool

>> No.14948528

>have m.sc. physics
>want to get into cfd industry
>very little jobs, the few I find I apply to
>all reject me
Well, phd it is then

>> No.14948551

>>14946866
>getting freaked out at getting his fingerprints taken

lol, call me when you have to do the lie detector for your security clearance.

>> No.14948562

What interesting jobs can you get with an applied maths degree? Is it just data science and finance or is there anything less brain numbing like DoD or "Space". Could you do telemetry for satellites and rockets with it or is that exclusive for Electrical eng. majors or could you do something like ionospheric modelling for communications? Idk, I'm just testing the waters and peoples opinions :)

>> No.14948572

How many of you with successful STEM careers were Mathletes in high school, competing on the Varsity Calculus team? Did your school even have a Varsity Calculus team?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njVz2KudBis

>> No.14948670

>>14948572
I ranked top 10 in the mathematical Olympiad of my small European country (population several million) and performed well in some team competitions too
I have zero work ethic or motivation though so on track for a mediocre engineering career

>> No.14948767

>>14948528
You'll just kick that can a few more years down the road. Make sure you do stuff during your PhD to get employed afterwards, or then it's the same with a postdoc and then you're 30 and will probably kys.

>> No.14948772
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14948772

Is the data science meme a dying bubble? Would it be a good idea for an aimless, jobless 24 year old engineering graduate who doesn't mind math and just wants to get rich to sign up for a statistics MSc? Or has that well run dry now?

>> No.14948778

>>14948767
>then you're 30
haha yeah ... can you imagine
>You'll just kick that can a few more years down the road
Maybe the economy won't be fucked in a few years.

>> No.14948793

Realistically how many clearance jobs out there are chemistry related?

>> No.14948936

Are letters of recommendation really required for a Master's or are there schools that ignore that requirement?

Want to go into EECS masters with a focus on biotech & robotics

>> No.14949088

>>14948793
There’s an equal amount of clearance chemistry jobs and regular chemistry jobs ( none lmao)

>> No.14949124

>>1493878
Try usajobs.gov, get a federal job as a chemist. Money might not be initially great but benefits and experience are nice.

>> No.14949127

>>14938789
>>14949124
Wrong number

>> No.14949134

If you took a sheet of seeweed and sprayed microscopic grammar rules for another language, or arithmetic tables in dots of phosphorous or magnesium, tiled, would you learn faster?

>> No.14949159

>>14949134
No you'd just have less seaweed to smoke

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>>14949124
After finding exactly one employer willing to call me back.
I got desperate and started scrounging my head for ideas when it dawned on me that internships are extremely important and possibly the most important thing you do in college. Matter of fact, it should be the only thing you go to college for. Right, I researched this random idea that popped into my head and found out that, yes indeed you can get an internship after you graduate.
I personally want to kick a lot of people in the teeth and drag them across shards sharp broken glass for not telling me that I could have saved myself a year's worth of hell if I just applied for an internship after I graduated.
>mfw
Anyways, thank you anon. I give you a loophole if you ever feel stuck in life. You can simply go back to basics and get an internship.

>> No.14949389

>>14948793
maybe just join the chair force
I might learn to fly and apply to the air national guard

better job prospects than being a chemist at least...

>> No.14949460

>>14948492
you wrote a giant wall of seethe

>> No.14949466

>>14949379
i got an internship the summer between my junior and senior year
i showed up my first day and it was super boring. embedded stuff. i never went back. literally was at that job for a total of 4 hours.
i put it on my resume and said i worked there the entire summer. i made up tons of bullshit about what i did. it was really vague. sometimes interviewers would really press me and show a genuine interest, asking for greater and greater detail, at that point i'd just hang up the zoom call.
with all this i still got 10 offers within a few months.

>> No.14949472

I'm honestly surprised that the U.S.'s drug problem isn't worse than it is considering how this country has so many un/underemployed chemistry/biology majors. They wouldn't even have to go full breaking bad just making designer drugs would make the situation so much worse and the DEA wouldn't be able to do dick.

>> No.14949479

>>14936170
how are your pipetting skills?

>> No.14949483

>>14948793
If you know some material science then quite a few actually.

>> No.14949488

>>14942811
Are you still in school? Did you take advanced pchem?

>> No.14949500

>>14949088
kek

>> No.14949742

>>14935862
you aren't special just a spec of sand in a vast sea of particles

>> No.14949816

>>14949472
A chemistry/biology Bachelors cant make decent meth for the same reason they cant get a job: they learn nothing of value in undergrad

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14949943

how many of you guys had to get a hair test for drugs for pre-employment? which kind of jobs require one? would start-ups in liberal cities bother? i just had interviews with a bunch of places that went very well but there's no way i would ever pass a hair test in a million years

>> No.14950083

>>14942475
I never fit that well into academia, but when I started working I really flourished. I do rely on everything I learned at school, but the speed and ease which I learn thing when it's work-related compared to school is enormous.

>> No.14950130

>>14949488
I’m still in school, yes. I took the normal pchem 1 and 2.

>> No.14950140

>>14950083
Well, hopefully I’ll find that I’m the same way. The main thing is actually finding a job. It’s already very hard hard for people with good gpa’s, letters of rec, significant research experience, etc. so I might not even be able to get a job.

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UPDATE
The FAQ is now updated to 1.27, and this is the two year anniversary of the FAQ and this general. We have had 39 updates and just ofer 44,000 readers, not bad for a site on Neocities that is actively suppressed by Google.

Big thanks to all contributors, please let the input continue. As always: WAGMI.

>> No.14950351

>>14950130
If you take advanced pchem that professor will write you a letter of rec and you should have no problem getting into a computational group for grad school

>> No.14950787

>>14935862
what textbooks should i get if i wanna learn the maths around data science, am a data engineer at the moment but i like numbers

>> No.14950939

>>14949943
>hair test

Lol no. It’s, at most, a urinalysis done through LabCorp or something.

>> No.14951252

If a professor tells you that you know more already than some grad students (was in my 3rd year), gave me special certificates for my performance in undergrad research and one of my courses (I don't think I was particularly impressive but I got an A), claimed he had an idea that we could publish off of (never happened), regularly complimented me, etc etc, is he just trying to blow smoke up my ass so I could be his PhD student? This is one of those high h-index type hotshot dudes. Paradoxically he was also a really good lecturer, best I've had.

Can't tell if I'm just being a cynic or if he actually thinks I can do well for myself by completing a PhD. Also I know what the FAQ says but would it be bad working for this kind of guy? Also is it a bad idea to message one of his old PhD students and ask what he was like?

>> No.14951351

Hi big brains of /sci/
I am graduating this year, I have very good grades, good recs, no publications though.
My advisors are suggesting that I apply to the top schools (they are well known in my department for sending people to the top schools).
My question is, would I survive at a top 10 school if I still need a bit of guidance writing manuscripts? Or am I expected to start publishing right away?
Hoping to get something out this year but I am still in the trenches with a project right now.

>> No.14951355

>>14951351
reee stop making fun of me just go to cal tech already to you gigga faggot

>> No.14951469

>>14936805
>I don't get why the python guy is holding sicp though.
I'm pretty sure it's implying all the sicp shills actually only know python

>> No.14951472

>>14937496
there are many other jobs out there that does not involve knowledge work. go work for a removalist company or learn a trade or something

>> No.14951474

>>14941546
get on fin/duta + min. God bless

>> No.14951562

>>14951351
Get a job retard

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14952589

is this a competent enough course list for a cybersecurity career or is it just fluff bullshit where I'd be better off with a general IT degree with cybersec concentration?

>> No.14952623

>>14942811
Go to grad school if you want to. Getting a job as a physical chemist isn't too hard, but as a computational chemist things might be a bit more difficult outside of academia.
Physical chemists are useful for like materials and things like that. Processors and solar panels and shit.
>>14943194
Chemistry is pretty much all problem solving. When you're studying for your bachelor's it's just learning the fundamentals so you CAN problem solve. Now that I'm in research pretty deep, it's always asking "How can I adapt this to my system" "why did this reaction turn out the way it did?" "how can I achieve this outcome with my system" etc.
Also it's really hard now :(

>> No.14952667

>>14950351
After looking into it, there’s actually no advanced physical chemistry course offered at my school. There’s only advanced inorganic and advanced organic chem. There are, however, chemical kinetics and chemical thermodynamics courses which have pchem as a prereq. Should I go for those?

The only other pchem related class that I can see is a 500 level “special topics in physical chemistry” course, and you can’t take 500 level courses as an undergrad.

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14952672

>>14943142
How is this? I looked into it a little bit and it doesn’t seem that bad, but I don’t really know the specifics of the job. Has anyone worked as a patent examiner?

>> No.14952964

>>14952667
>you can’t take 500 level courses as an undergrad.


Yes you can. Talk to the professor.

>> No.14952973

Which of these languages would be best for STEM purposes (conversing with colleagues, working abroad, collaborating, reading publications, etc.)?
>German, Russian, Japanese, Mandarin
I already speak Spanish and French from my previous line of work.

>> No.14953046

>>14952672
There has been at least one Examiner in this general, and I think he was from USPTO. I never was one but I work on the opposite side, as a patent attorney. About half my colleagues are former Examiners, and from them I hear the job is comfortable and well paid.

>> No.14953081

>>14952964
I mean, maybe if you're a top honors student or something... but I am certainly not that. I don't know why they'd let a low performer take an advanced class. I'm afraid that it would go right over my head even if I were to somehow get permission.
It's not really even a set class either, it's something that changes every semester. It's not listed in the undergraduate class registration, so I would probably have a hard time even finding out who the professor would be. Either way I don't think it's a good idea.

>>14952973
I would guess that it depends on your field of study, where you live, where you want to live, where you want to travel, etc.

>> No.14953232

Most likely gonna have an internship for "Test Engineering" which would grant me a security clearance but if I want to do design work, should I just reject the offer and focus on getting a different internship?

>> No.14953321

>>14953081
Depends if you want to do computational stat mech or quantum mech. If you want to do quantum don't mess with those classes just take programming classes or something.
>>14953081
Just say you are interested in the course. Grad courses are conceptually harder, but waaaaay less work. There's probably only a few other grad students in the class and they have no time to study.
Literally anyone can take any course, that's what you are paying for.

>> No.14953429

>>14953081
>Either way I don't think it's a good idea.
bro, try. remember, you are paying for this course. its a product being sold to you by an organization out to get your tuition money.

most schools are going to take your money.

>> No.14953472

>>14953232
Test engineering can be *much* more rewarding if its for meaningful projects or systems
I'm a new grad test engineer on the F-35 program, what I do is more rigorous and career-building than what the new grad design engineers are doing in the same program

>> No.14953507

>>14953472
Do you know what questions I can ask to make sure it's one of those meaningful projects/system? You mentioned rigorous and career building, could you elaborate a lil on it (up to what you allowed to say) so I can hopefully ask a more targeted question to make sure I don't waste my summer.

>> No.14953544

>>14953507
> You mentioned rigorous and career building, could you elaborate a lil on it

If the project is a large and based on high-tech stuff, test engineering teams will do things like run tests that last weeks for just one subsystem, like for example a jet engine, a radar, a missile etc.

During these tests you will collect massive amounts of data and
A) modify portions of the subsystem to make it meet certain requirements, such as changing onboard code or circuits
and
B) pass feedback to the manufacturing side that will improve it or fix errors

So to further elaborate, you could be working on engine Model A - serial #001, and will test it then tweak it internally in a way that will be much different to Model A - Serial #002 and #003, because each individual unit varies wildly

As for what questions to ask, I would really just go to their website and see if they’re working on complex things that interest you, since on one end of the spectrum you’re testing cool shit like rocket ships, and on the other end you’re testing the lightbulb on some mass produced lawnmower or some other dumb thing

>> No.14953552

>>14949943
My buddy had to get a hair test for a logistics job. He used some special shampoo and bleached his hair and he ended up passing.

>> No.14953587

How Mars Retrograde Affects YOU (All Signs)

https://youtu.be/lcB12HocF7k

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>>14952973
Mandarin is the best and worst, fuck working in/with China. If you want to live in Germany or Japan then depending on what part of STEM you work in you could probably get a job over there just fine as long as you know the language. Why the fuck would you learn Russian?

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14954223

24, male, 110 IQ (tested when I was 16, also suffered from professionally diagnosed depression during the test)
Currently working as a maintenance technician in an automotive plant
I can't really decide between electrical engineering and industrial engineering when going back to university
Any advice from you stemcels?

>> No.14954250

>>14954223
I went back to uni to do EE at 23 this year, shit's really interesting and exactly what I want to do career-wise even moreso than I thought when I applied. It's probably the most versatile engineering course outside of General too, all of the other courses have a few electronics-related modules at my uni.

>> No.14954282

>>14954250
How is the math ? do you do well ?

>> No.14954310

>>14954250
Went back at 25, graduated this year at 29, and I am very glad I chose EE over any other field
The material is meaningful and interesting, the jobs are great and the job offers were abundant

>> No.14954320

>>14954223
If you have to choose between EE and IE the obvious answer is EE. It's more well known and comprehensive.

>>14954282
EE is probably the most math intensive.

>> No.14954331

>>14954282
It's mainly just typical Calculus stuff, if you enjoy maths you shouldn't have a problem

>>14954310
Yeah I'm interested in computing but hated doing CS in school because it was programming in stupid languages like Java and a shitload of boring theory. EE is perfect for me because the focus is on the hardware side of computing and you're only writing C and assembly

>> No.14954333

I'm enlisted with SCI clearance, will have an applied math degree with a CS minor before I get out. What are my job prospects like? Looking sites like linkedin or indeed, it seems everyone needs some insane levels of experience and understanding of obscure software to get any sort of job.
Is there a way to just go to the company that I want to work for(defense contractor), give them my resume, and just have them place me at whatever job they think I'm suited for, like the military does?

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14954366

any advice how to learn by myself?

>> No.14954477

>>14954366
why is the pistol jewish

>> No.14954760

>>14954366
The MIT offers a lot of material at https://ocw.mit.edu/search/.. It's great because it usually has lecture notes or even recorded lectures for a lot of courses. It's also nice to have a syllabus in case you don't know where to start/what to focus on.

>> No.14954811

>>14954477
It's saying that Jews, through controlling the world, made this kid want to kill himself until he was stopped by someone who can 'save' him from the Jews, that person being Hitler in this illustration.

It was designed to be sympathetic to late teen, early 20's alt-righters and anti-semitists

>> No.14954821

>>14952973
I'd go a step further and learn Latin/Greek/Hebrew. All modern languages have their root in a mixture of those 3. If you learn them all thoroughly, you can learn any language very quickly. It's how people not even 150 years ago were able to speak multiple languages, even languages not spoken in their own or surrounding country. The brightest early Americans were fluent in Latin, and were thus fluent in all latin romantic languages

>> No.14955170

>job offer in quantum computing theory with a BS
>93k starting
Am I bottlenecking myself by going into industry with a BS in physics? It seems like most of the higher level jobs require a PhD.

>> No.14955283

>10min hr phone screen
>ok sure you can call me tmr
>get called
>get thrown 10-15 full on interview questions
>wing every single one
>hour call
what the fuck

>> No.14955340

>>14955283
>he doesnt have a word document script for every single common interview question right in front of him to glance at
i have never been caught off guard besides one time the interviewer asked me the same exact question three times in a row for some fucking reason and i didnt have three different answers for
>biggest accomplishment? thing you're most proud of? biggest challenge?
like wtf those are all the same thing

>> No.14955435

>>14954333
Because of your SCI, you would get hired for any CS job in the Big 5 DoD contractors, since you save them like 8 months of downtime
Also most CpE jobs that arent too hardware-intensive

>> No.14955450

>>14955340
Honestly bro I gotta go back to working on my work document script, I'm at 10k words and I need to drill it into my head. How do you do it? Keep saying it out loud to yourself?

>> No.14955678

>>14955450
i look at it while im in the interview, i keep the document zoomed out enough so that it's still readable but small to minimize eye movement but at the top of my screen close to the camera, remove the toolbar at the top of the word document so the words are even closer to the camera, basically glance at it, look away, if i cant remember what comes next without looking ill make it look like im thinking of what to say next, i barely remember any of it.

i dont study for the behavioral questions, i only study technical stuff that might come up based on the job posting

>> No.14955760

>>14954821
Are you taking the piss?

>> No.14955902

>>14955283
I've had this happen before.
Guy was "dude...bro...." on the phone and talking like I was just going to come in a tour the facility.
Then I got there and he immediately takes me into a room and his entire demeanor changes and starts asking a series of highly technical questions. I just straight up told him I wasn't prepared.

>> No.14956001

>>14955760
He's just keeping to the truest /sci/ traditions of telling people who wants to learn e.g. biology to start with a mathematics undergrad because everything is mathematics after all.

>> No.14956002

>>14948492
nah you seem strangely pissed off at a guy who didnt want to give out his fingerprints

>> No.14956024

>>14935862
What's the prospects for a BS in chem?

>> No.14956027

>>14955678
> i keep the document zoomed out enough so that it's still readable but small to minimize eye movement but at the top of my screen close to the camera
That’s funny because I was practicing doing this, then the day of my interview came and it happened to land during the week when all 100K employees were transitioning from Skype to MS Teams, so the interviewers were unable to make the video conference work and decided to make it a voice-only interview.
Such a comfy interview because of that

>> No.14956040

>>14956024
lol…

>> No.14956042

>>14956040
anything similar with a better outlook?

>> No.14956063

>>14956042
CS, EE, CpE

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are there any aggie engineering fags here who can tell me if its worth the fucking debt?
thinking about going to UT Tyler if i dont go to A&M

>> No.14956169

>>14935862
Not sure about this one. I worked for an alphabet soup intel agency, State, and a DOD/DHS contractor and am pretty politically centrist. My favorite book on political theory is Fukuyama's two volume set, but I don't think he's as conservative as people make him out to be. Certainly not in his academic work. Everyone else was pretty centrist and careerist too.

Of course now I do soul crushing finance data work/consulting, but I do make six figures working three days a week (in theory, they always try to make me work more).

I'm seriously considering going back to school for philosophy, particularly philosophy of science, more particularly philosophy of physics, philosophy of information/information theory, and complexity studies. How fucked will I be in the job market?

I really like UC Irvine's program specifically in philosophy of science and logic. I'm a big Donald Hoffman fan too, although he is in the neuroscience department and only writes more on the phil side.

I do currently teach community college courses as a hobby. IDK if PhD programs actually care if you can teach though lol. At least I know I like doing it, even if it's at a small program. But I teach polsci and econ.

IDK, does anyone even hire phil PHDs for science research. Guys like Katsrupt or Tegmark who get into phil areas all have STEM degrees. It sounds like some places might let you nab a STEM masters at least while you're enrolled, or close enough coursework wise.

>> No.14956221

>>14956169
This is the gayest shit I’ve ever read
I hope you were just experiencing adderall euphoria when you posted this

>> No.14956366

>>14946866
lol, but you didn't mind giving them contacts for every place you've lived?

Them calling everyone seemed way more intrusive to me. I moved around a lot, so it was also pretty difficult.

>> No.14956410

>>14955170
You can always work for a while then go back and get a phd

>> No.14956472

>>14956221
What triggered you?

Based on this being /sci/ I figured it was his thinking philosophy is STEM, but based on it being /scg/ I figured it was having a high salary and being absurdly optimistic.

I feel like analytical bros are actually closer to math Chads than most STE disciplines. But they all end up teaching squishy feely shit for $18 an hour as adjuncts anyhow, so they aren't as close in practice; maybe just equal, if not higher, on the autism scale. Like, imagine thinking you need a huge set of logical proofs in order to ground the statement that "I put on pants this morning."

>> No.14956489

>>14954333
Look at ClearanceJobs (it's a job board specifically for clearance required jobs and really helps cut out the bullshit of indeed and LinkedIn) also, look at jobs on USAjobs. You can very easily snag something in the math/comp sci series (any of the 1500s). You can filter down to just stuff with security clearances too.

You have very good job prospects, but you have to look for the right things. I recommend searching for the data science or operations research positions/series personally, but you might be qualified for the comp sci series as well (or the general math series).

>> No.14956502

>>14956489
USAjobs is sort of a crap shoot. They are required to post for everything, even if it's a promotion for a candidate they already have picked out, so you never know if an opening is real or not.

The screening is also retarded. Basically, they throw out everyone who isn't high on the screwing questions, but then the questions will be related to "have you done this EXACT job with the Feds before," down to agency specific report names. You can just rank everything high to get around this, but then some HR person might cross check to your resume and throw you out.

It's pretty key to have an in IME. Add in affirmative action and veterans preference and it's fairly difficult to get into an actual review. Obviously not impossible though.

They might have fixed it since I had to deal with backfills through their processes, which is a while ago now, but it was a shit show before. It's honestly easier to get hired with a contractor and get to know people in an agency and then apply with an in then it is to go in as an unknown, regardless of your qualifications. The red tape around hiring is quite bad.

Or if you're able to, take advantage of recent grad openings of fellowship programs. The National Labs has a fellowship that was expanded to include comp sci, and even policy folks or jobs with the DOE's intelligence agency (mostly nuclear focused). Those you're more likely to get an actual review.

>> No.14956509

>>14956502
I'm a veteran with 10 point preference and USAjobs is absolute shit. Unless I'm willing to take a %40 pay cut for a GS-11 position, it's not worth.

>> No.14956511

>>14956472
> Based on this being /sci/ I figured it was his thinking philosophy is STEM
Philosophy is the opposite of stem

>>>/his/catalog

>> No.14956525

>>14956502
Nah, USAjobs is okay if you know what to look for and how to look. The jobs you speak of are there, but it's pretty easy to filter them out (especially since specific openings have very clear and weird requirements).

One of the methods I've found is by first sorting by closing date. The positions with an early closing date are much more 'real' also look for positions that have multiple openings (rarely are they just hiring one of X type).

You're right that they try and screw you with the questions, but that's typically only done for positions where it's clear they have an exact candidate in mind. Personally, I've had zero issues with USAjobs (I've had three job offers through, two GS-13 positions as well).

I actually prefer it quite a bit to indeed and LinkedIn since at least the federal government actually adheres to job series.

You can also try some of the DoD specific sites like Air Force Personnel, but it just basically redirects to USAjobs.

>> No.14956539

>>14956502
Also, hiring in general has changed quite a bit. The red tape was worse, but has been very stressed lately since there is a severe lack of workers in the federal government. Basically every agency is lacking severely in the mid and high tier positions. Within just a couple years I was pushed from GS9 equivalency to GS12 and then jumped to another position for GS13. Soon I'll be jumping to a GS14 position because there are a shit ton of openings at that level.

I know a lot of the 30-40 year olds around me who did what you suggested (i.e., contractor to federal government), but basically everyone in my age category (under 30) has been jumping via 'normal' routes on USAjobs. Basically everyone I know who has moved on to other work (outside our agency) has used USAjobs to do it and didn't jump to a contractor. A good chunk of them were fully remote as well (either for the Patent Office or DoT)

>> No.14956579

>>14956509
Yeah, this was my experience. Not so much going in because I knew and had worked with the person hiring me, but as someone hiring I would get passed a shit list. I know for a fact, having worked private sector now, that we could have gotten way better applicants at even the same pay by just not having a terrible screening and selection process

>> No.14956607

Should I do an associate degree in engineering (mechanical, mechatronics or electrical) if I don't give a shit about technology? Or should I just keep working at my trade job and keep moving up?

>> No.14956666

>>14956511
How can philosophy be the opposite of STEM when Boolean algebra/logic was created by a philosopher? Add in calculus, linear algebra, a good deal of set theory, proof theory, Clifford algebra, etc.

Some guys are more on one side or another, but Frege, Pierce, Boole, Russel, Hilbert, Mach, Hempel, etc. all BTFO a hard distinction. Ridgid silos and gatekeeping has been a disaster. Today no one would hire Mandelbrot to work on economics because it "isn't his field," or they wouldn't let him jump back to math because "he's a social scientist."

I have an anthology Paul Davies put together on my bookshelf that is probably 30% written by philosophers (not counting Deacon's stuff which is sort of on the line).

It's clear that much of philosophy, what gets taught in undergrad for the most part outside of robust programs, is humanities. I don't think you can really divorce logicians from STEM though, especially when they have been creating key fields in the M part throughout history.

>> No.14957409

>>14956002
Wrong I’m happy you retards want to ruin your lives turning down jobs over standard DNA and fingerprint tests and insufferably project yourselves onto others. You seem not so strangely unable to read emotions for a 4channer, that’s called autism.

>> No.14957432

>landed an interview for a master's application
What should I expect to be asked? It's for astronomy

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>>14957432
>astronomy
>masters
you just didnt learn your fucking lesson did you

>> No.14957956

>Juniors year engineering
>no experience with anything, shit GPA
I'm fucked lads aren't I

>> No.14958068

>>14935862
Working on a mathematical physics degree. I don't really know what the job prospects on this are, especially since I wasn't planning on going this route (this school was the only one that accepted my application). Does anyone have any similar experience or example jobs that are within my reach? I also plan on going for postgrad, so if anyone has any advice on where I might be able to pivot from there, that would be helpful too.

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lads ive had like 30 interviews at this point over the past 9 months, 5 of them were final panel interviews, and i got rejected from all of them, probably applied to like 350 jobs, i think itse over for me bros, never gonna make it. some of us were just meant to suffer and that's that

>> No.14958152

Why did I even bother going to college.
Now instead of being unemployed I am unemployed, depressed, and in debt.

>> No.14958167
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i don't understand why rote work exists in undergrad courses. why is there the need to gatekeep exams with obligatory hand-ins and attendance when the curriculum coverage is for most courses given in full, along with the necessary literature, at the start of the semester? i'd love to have the option of self pacing at this point in time. the long commute to campus, stress of impending deadlines, droning lectures, and the molasses pacing of some courses is starting to feel like nonsense. all of about two-three hours of a ten hour day devoted to university i can confidently say i gain from.

there's usually this argument from discipline which i'm forced to consider as bogus. self-discipline involves responsibly managing your own time. being handed down arbitrary schedule from on high makes no sense. not even in the industries does this happen. sure, your superiors can be harsh and pushy if you work in a fast paced environment, but you're rarely instantly and personally penalized for being late in the same way you are in education. certain extremely time sensitive fields and exceptional on-the-job project cases granted of course, i'm talking in the most general sense here.

if the division of courses into assignments is just an aid to learning i don't know why it isn't opt-in. not everyone has the time and/or need for a "pedagogically optimal" schedule. i would much rather spend my time working on my hobby projects, and tbch i've more and more come to the view participation in education as a mere formality. i hate that it's like this

/blog

>> No.14958173

>>14958167
I think it is unironically so that staff, faculty, and TAs can feel like they are being useful and it looks like the University is actually teaching something for all the tuition you pay - of course, they are not.

>> No.14958235

Is a job in engineering stressful?

>> No.14958292

>>14958235
probably lol i wouldent know cos nobody will give me a job in engineering lol

>> No.14958300

>>14958167
Nigga turned “I am stupid and lazy” into a whole essay

>> No.14958303

>>14958292
hahaha fuck this website. why would I take advice from anyone here

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>>14958300
nigga SUCK my dick

>> No.14958306

>>14958167
>>14958173
When I first started teaching I wanted to have conceptual tests with rather open ended answers, to check if people understood the core concepts. And I wanted to avoid giving a lot of problem sets.

I had to go back on this because so many of my students were doing abysmal on the test. I ended up drilling the students through problem sets, explaining step by step, pairing good students with weaker ones for group work, all the stuff I didn't like as a student, because otherwise a lot of people fail.

Also, even when you try to skip to more exciting, unique stuff, you can see everyone's attention drift off during long lectures. A lot of college classes are just too long for lower level stuff that requires the instructor to cover a ton of ground. 3 hour long classes that require long lectures are brutal to teach too. Even if you try to space shit out and have breaks and group work, people's attention goes and it's not fun to teach either. I sort of blame our schedule too because I have two 3 hour classes a week and it's too much material at once. You hit diminishing returns, but I'd get shit if I let everyone go and hour early every time.

Plus, when I gave open ended assignments for people to pick their own project a lot of folks didn't like it. I ended up having to come up with ideas for them, and they all had to be different because I had encouraged them to work together because they wouldn't be doing the same exact things.

Grading papers sucks too. Much more time consuming.

>> No.14958337

>>14958167
Here in Germany there is no obligatory attendance for any class except practical training/experiments of course. I haven't been to the campus once since the start of the semester. I learn entirely on my own, and I much prefer it this way. There's also generally no mandatory assignments for a class (with some exceptions), but you often get a bonus of a third of a grade if you hand in the assignments and do well on them.

>> No.14958500

>>14958167
It's so they can monitor your progress, because if they just left you to your own devices and just tested you at the end, you and I both know that 90% of you "self pace" idiots would spend the entire semester jacking off to porn and playing video games and then fail.

>> No.14958523

>>14958500
>90% of you "self pace" idiots would spend the entire semester jacking off to porn and playing video games and then fail.
Isn't that a good thing? You would have to actually develop self-discipline instead of being babysat.

>> No.14958527

>>14958523
No 90% of a cohort failing is not a good thing because A) they can't continue onto the next course and/or B) they lose their financial assistance and drop out. Over time it would bankrupt the university.

>> No.14958531
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>>14950130
another thing... should I take quantum?

>> No.14958535

>>14958527
But it already works like that in a lot of European countries and they don't have a 90% failure quota. If you choose to slack off, maybe you shouldn't be at university in the first place.

>> No.14958552

>>14958535
Every Euro I've ever talked to constantly brags about the high failure rates in their universities.

>> No.14958686

>>14958552
Sure, the failure rates are higher than in the US, but they're still far away from 90%. For example, the Analysis I course in my Uni, which a lot of students have problems with, only had a failure quota of 50% when I took it. To you that might still seem high, but there is a certain standard to uphold, plus it's a first semester course that serves as an entry filter. You can't just make everything easier because not enough people pass, that defeats the point of university as a qualifying institution.

>> No.14958750

My stat prof is requiring us to use SAS for the final project, do I try to convince him to let me use R or do I suck it up? I would want to put it on a coding portfolio.

>> No.14958876

>>14958500
projecting much. i enjoy learning

>> No.14958903

>>14958750
there is literally 0 downside to just asking nicely (and you have a good reason)

>> No.14959394

>>14958146
Redact your resume and post it.

>> No.14959397

>>14958146
Wtf, this scares me

>> No.14959640

Finance crists hits the job market:
>A Host of Tech Companies, Including Coinbase, Robinhood, Lyft, and Stripe, Announce Hiring Freezes and Job Cuts (nytimes.com)
https://tech.slashdot.org/story/22/11/03/2041249/a-host-of-tech-companies-including-coinbase-robinhood-lyft-and-stripe-announce-hiring-freezes-and-job-cuts
>The macro story unfolding today is all the layoffs taking place in the tech industry. "Tech giants including Meta and Amazon have been slowing down their hiring for months, while smaller tech companies such as Robinhood and Coinbase have announced layoffs," reports the New York Times. "But rarely have so many job cuts and hiring freezes in the industry been disclosed on the same day." From the report:
>The technology industry's slowdown came into even sharper relief on Thursday as Amazon publicly said it had paused hiring for its corporate work force and several other technology companies announced job cuts. [...] At the same time, Lyft said it would cut 13 percent of its employees, or about 650 of its 5,000 workers. Stripe, a payment processing platform, said it would cut 14 percent of its employees, roughly 1,100 jobs. [...] Tech companies have led the way for the U.S. economy over the past decade, lifting the stock market during the worst days of the coronavirus pandemic. But in recent weeks, many of the largest firms reported financial results that suggested they were feeling the impact of global economic jitters, soaring inflation and rising interest rates.

>> No.14959649

>>14959640
Feels like I am graduating at one of the worst possible times for it. You guys think there is a way to take advantage of the situation instead?

>> No.14959880

>>14956607
simply an associates degree in STEM with get you absolutely nowhere. You will be competing with bachelors, masters students as well as those with 5-10+ experience, multiple co-ops, internships, research, industry. It will be damn near impossible to get your foot in the door for any professional level position. Either go for the full bachelors or stick with your trade.

>> No.14959895

>>14942811
Why is your degree a BA instead of a BS? I had a 2.8 GPA and have had a fairly successful career with 12 years industry experience now. Don't let the GPA hold you back - one you get a few years experience you will be fine and nobody will ask again. Get a job as a lab technician - QC, R&D, customer service, any lab technician job you can get. Get your foot in the door. It'll probably pay 16-22 an hour, and you might have to work 3rd. If you just graduated I'm going to assume you're fairly young - at 22 it won't kill you to do it for a few years. Get into industry and work for a while AND THEN decide if you want to go back. I'm currently working on my masters at night - to the tune of 10k paid per year from work. So my masters will be free.

>> No.14959931

>>14959394
What would my resume have to do with anything if I’m getting interviews, multiple with the same company ?

>> No.14959947

>>14959640
Well literally none of those are tech companies we need to stop calling companies that use computers “tech companies”, a tech company is a company that develops technology to sell to an end user not a service that develops software for its own use