/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.1491536]

ITT: your face when the evolution of the human eye cannot be explained by science

[Anonymous No.1491545]

aaah sweet sweet troll thread

[Anonymous No.1491541]

Wut?

[Anonymous No.1491548]

Even Darwin had an argument for that

But 10/10 original

[Anonymous No.1491547]

off the thin backs of flat worms

[Anonymous No.1491553]

>>1491548

Go ahead, post it!

PROTIP: you can't, if you change any random detail in the eye, it NO LONGER WORKS

[Anonymous No.1491558]

OP is not faggot if only for Jay and Silent Bob

[Anonymous No.1491568]

>my face when you think Silent Bob is as stupid as you

[Anonymous No.1491573]

Evolution of the human eye was documented decades ago

[Anonymous No.1491576]

this whale's vestigial legs can only be explained by evolution.

[Anonymous No.1491586]

>>1491548
>10/10 original

[Anonymous No.1491600]

if evolution doesn't happen we would all be the same race as adam and eve

[Anonymous No.1491605]

>>1491536
Fuckin eyes how do they work?

[Anonymous No.1491615]

[Anonymous No.1491620]

YOUR FACE

WHEN IT CAN

[Anonymous No.1491665]

"irreducible complexity" is a conceptual fail and was great for proving Jesus until you remember the 12 billion trilobite fossils with eye-like structures of varying effectiveness, ranging from light-sensitive buttons to full on eyes. niggers can also detect certain frequencies of electromagnetic radiation.

[Anonymous No.1491682]

Yeah, I mean what use is half an eye? Evolutionists claim ridiculous things like you start with 1/100 of an eye (a random mutation). How would 1/100 of an eye increase evolutionary fitness? Protip: it can't. Hence organisms with 1/100 of an eye aren't selected for.

[Anonymous No.1491699]

>>1491682
Uh that makes perfect sense.

It's not 1/100th of a functioning eye, its an eye that has 1/100th of its final function.

Basic light/dark sensing evolves into monochrome blurry vision evolves into color, etc

[Anonymous No.1491701]

>>1491682
>Doesn't realise bottom feeders who react to shadows above them would be more aware of their surroundings and survive better
>Oh fuck gentlemen it seems I've been trolled.

[Bill !///NYEnRAU No.1491712]

It can be explained, in every organism. So stop trolling.

Let me point to you trolls the Mantis Shrimp: The most complex eyes in the entire known biota. More than an eagle, a fly, or a human.

It can see from ultra-violet to infra-red, and so much more. It can see circularized polar waves, and linear polarized light. It has a complex eye system, like that of a fly. To communicate sight, it uses a parallel data stream from the optic nerve to the retina and brain, like that of a blu-ray disc.

http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2008-03/eye-mantis-shrimp
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/10/mantis-shrimp-eyes/

Why? Just an evolutionary adaptation to see different shades of corals and other marine life forms. Everything has an explanation.

[Anonymous No.1491719]

EXCELLENT RESOURCE FOR REFUTING CREATIONIST CLAIMS:

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html

[Bill !///NYEnRAU No.1491729]

>>1491719

Thanks, the Bombardier Beetle thing stumped me a while, and what do you know: they explain the fallacies on here. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.1491733]

>>1491719

does it say why bananas fit our hand so orgasmically?

[Anonymous No.1491738]

Why does the Human eye have color? I don't want to know the reason for it happening (I know it has to do with Genes) my question is WHY? I mean whats the use of having different colored eyes among our species? Brown, blue, green, hazel....there isn't a reason why this should be (at least when it comes to survival) The same goes for hair....anyone know the reason?

[Anonymous No.1491768]

>>1491738
google it.

[Bill !///NYEnRAU No.1491770]

>>1491738

Look at a Gorilla's eye. It is totally dark. Humans evolved to have a white sclera, so that we can better read each other's body language. Imagine if you could never tell where someone was looking. As for color, that is just pigment. It's like asking why we have different hair colors. Maybe for distinction, or maybe it was a mutation in some kind of melanin producing gene. Maybe it's just idiopathic.

[Anonymous No.1491779]

>>1491712

>This lets mantis shrimp eyes process CPL (Circular Polarized Light). The same trick is performed by devices called quarter-wave plates, which convert polarized light signals inside DVD and CD players. Quarter-wave plates are also used inside satellite transmitters and other high-tech communication systems, which rely on the data-dense, loss-free transmission properties of circular polarized light.

>But even our best quarter-wave plates can only detect circular polarized light in a few colors. The quarter-wave plates of mantis shrimps work across the visual spectrum, for any color of CPL. And if human engineers can mimic their designs, they might create “a new category of optical devices,” the researchers write.

[Anonymous No.1491782]

eyes evolved like anything else. Eye color is a harmless mutation, much like hair color, both having to do with pigmentation.

[Anonymous No.1491790]

>>1491770

this

[Anonymous No.1491803]

>>1491779
>Animal that can read DVD's without watching them

The time i could save with those eyes.

[Anonymous No.1491865]

>>1491712

I actually have been keeping a mantis shrimp for about 8 months now, pic is from early december when I got it but it has doubled in size and changed to a maroon and green color, just haven't gotten a good pic of it in a while.

Not only are their eyes incredibly sensitive to (at least 13) different wavelengths, but also they have 3 separate regions on their eyes so they have trinocular vision in each eye, each of which is on a movable stalk that it can control individually so it can look at two different things with proper depth perception.

It recognizes anyone that has fed it at least a couple times and will come out and walk around and observe. Also it can see the kitchen and my other saltwater tank from its tank and it starts snapping and running around when it sees me cutting up a scallop or fishing out a live snail to feed it. It is very creepy how smart it is and how it knows what I am doing.

I swear I can feel it when it is looking at me, probing my soul for weaknesses and trying to figure a way out of its tank etc.

[Anonymous No.1491882]

>>1491553
Yep! If you change any detail the eye no longer works and the organism CAN'T SEE. Thus ensuring it will probably die and NEVER, EVER be able to pass on that shitty set of genes that caused the imperfection.

[almostphysicist No.1491900]

>>1491882
If we change the color, it works
if we modify the shape, it works (although not as well, but it isn't useless, people can still see without glasses)

If you change the number/ratio of rods and cones, it still works

Just the face that human and animals have so many different types of eyes should be enough evidence to discount your ridiculous idea.

[Anonymous No.1491902]

ummm no.

Darwin couldn't explain the evolution of the human eye.

We can now. And we do.

That would be like saying that Newton couldn't explain what gravity WAS so gravity itself must not exist...

pic related. It's OP right before he made this thread.

[Anonymous No.1491914]

>>1491900
Are you serious?
Get FUCKED you stupid creationist.

[Anonymous No.1491918]

>>1491914
>Resorts to ad hominem because he can't deal with the truth.

[Anonymous No.1491920]

>>1491918
>trolling religion on /sci/

[Anonymous No.1491971]

>>1491914
He's right though.

The eye can survive in some form if you change something, it may just become specialised.

That's why eagles attack prey at an angle, because the lens of its eye is slightly off centre giving it a sort of zoomed in point on it's eye and it uses this to close in on the vulnerable points of prey accurately.

[Anonymous No.1491974]

>>1491536
>my face when this argument still exists

[almostphysicist No.1491989]

>>1491914
Where did you get the idea that I was a creationist...?

[Anonymous No.1491997]

>>1491989
Evidently he assumes that anyone who argues with his ideas and opinions on biology are theistic scum worthy of nothing more than the shit on the soles of his boots.

When in reality he's just a fag.