/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.14884195]

Science is so freaking cool.

[Anonymous No.14884196]

>>14884195
Epic

[Anonymous No.14884207]

>>14884195
Then why does it make stupidly wrong predictions?

[Anonymous No.14884224]

>>14884207
>Then why does it make stupidly wrong predictions
It's about the journey not the destination, and the friends we make along the way

[Anonymous No.14884279]

>>14884224
Science is about modeling and predicting reality. The scientific method is about rejecting theory which makes bad predictions.

Science makes stupidly wrong predictions because the theory is wrong.

Desperately protecting wrong theory from being exposed as wrong, is psychotic.

There is no science anymore. There is only psychotic.

[Anonymous No.14884297]

>>14884279
Exactly. Science told me I can spin a ball faster than a Ducati engine.

[Anonymous No.14884305]

>>14884195
/sci/ is the only board I use aside from /v/, but I only come here to respond to threads with vaguely correct sounding bullshit in the hopes that people will parrot my garbage.

Feels good man.

[Anonymous No.14884318]

>>14884297
Since you cannot, science is wrong and the theory must be rejected because that is the only reasonable response.

Trolling to prevent the truth being exposed is not reasonable.

[Anonymous No.14884321]

>>14884305
So your trolling is justified because it is your intent to behave unreasonably?

[Anonymous No.14884364]

>>14884318
An object in motion stays in motion unless forced otherwise

[Anonymous No.14884365]

>>14884305
the true socratic method

[Anonymous No.14884367]

>>14884207
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.14884373]

>>14884364
Yes, so in the equation L = r x p, when r changes, p remains constant in magnitude and L must change.

Thank you for your agreement.

[Anonymous No.14884374]

>>14884365
True trolling method.

Stop trolling and start behaving reasonably.

What the fuck is mentally wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.14884377]

>>14884367
Fuck you and your unreasonable psychotic “suggestions”.

Stop trolling and behaving like a child having a tantrum.

The fact that you are a tranny is your problem.

Don’t make it everyone else’s.

[Anonymous No.14884394]

>>14884207
For The Lulz

[Anonymous No.14884427]

>>14884394
Stop being childish and obtuse.
If science is cool then it should make accurate predictions. The fact that we cannot even predict a ball on a string is the opposite of cool.

We are idiots for supporting science that is false.

[Anonymous No.14884445]

>>14884427
>we cannot even predict a ball on a string
Society couldn't manufacture balls and strings on an industrial scale so that peons like you know what they are without science, the bad predictions, don't make the good predictions worse.
The alternatives to science are more false than science.

[Anonymous No.14884452]

>>14884427
>If science is cool then it should make accurate predictions
It does, while also having some tolerance

[Anonymous No.14884453]

>>14884195
fuck you stupid frog poster

[Anonymous No.14884463]

>>14884452
Nope. 12000 rpm is objectively wrong.

It is delusional to claim it accurate.

[Anonymous No.14884521]

>>14884373
Genuine question Mandlchad, have you even taken a calculus course?

[Anonymous No.14884528]

>>14884463
Where did i say anything about 12000rpm

[Anonymous No.14884532]

>>14884521
Ad hominem is not reasonable behavior and you are literally trolling.

Stop being unreasonable and address the discussion.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

FUCK YOU WITH YOUR SHITTY CHILDISH INSULTS.

Fuck off.

Why can’t you behave reasonably?

What do you think trolling is going to achieve. Dumbass.

[Anonymous No.14884533]

>>14884532
I can't even tell the difference between imposters and the real deal anymore, please get a trip.

[Anonymous No.14884535]

>>14884528
You say physics makes reasonable predictions and I am pointing out that it does not. I said 12000 rpm because 12000 rpm is objectively wrong, so physics is objectively wrong.

See example 4 : http://www.baur-research.com/Physics/measure.html

[Anonymous No.14884536]

>>14884533
You are supposed to address the discussion and not the person.

Trolling is unreasonable behavior.

Stop trolling and address the argument rationally.

[Anonymous No.14884540]

Based OP and based Science. When I was a naive child, I enjoyed philosophy. But then I discovered Science. Science is so much more rigorous and it beautifully explains literally everything. It is our only method of finding actual objective truth.

[Anonymous No.14884541]

>Based OP and based Science. When I was a naive child, I enjoyed philosophy. But then I discovered Science. Science is so much more rigorous and it beautifully explains literally everything. It is our only method of finding actual objective truth.

[Anonymous No.14884542]

>>14884540
Please explain why it contradicts example 4 then unless you simply prefer to remain delusional - like an anti-scientific flat earther.
http://www.baur-research.com/Physics/measure.html

[Anonymous No.14884557]

>>14884535
Well it does.. Levers work, Elevators work, Swings work
I have no idea what 12000rpm is and i really dont want to know since it sounds littlebit /sci/zo

[Anonymous No.14884562]

>>14884557
12000 rpm is the prediction for the example shown in example 4. As per the paper linked beneath the example. Since the example in reality contradicts the prediction, science is wrong.

[Anonymous No.14884563]

>>14884557
The only way that a number of revolutions per minute can sound schitzo is if the person reading it has a psychological problem.

[Anonymous No.14884592]

The real Mandelbaur has been dead for years, but dedicated anons will keep the legend alive for many more years to come. :^)

[Anonymous No.14884595]

what happens at 12000rpm..?

[Anonymous No.14884616]

>>14884592
This ad hominem fake bullshit is unreasonable behavior.
Why are you trolling?

[Anonymous No.14884621]

>>14884595
12000 rpm does not happen, so the “law” of COAM is falsified.
This is obvious, so it is very clear that you are being obtuse and trolling.
Trolling is unscientific and unreasonable behavior.
Why are you trolling?

[Anonymous No.14884623]

>>>/g/14884195

[Anonymous No.14884624]

>>>/g/88886440

[Anonymous No.14884626]

>>14884195
>>>/reddit/

[Anonymous No.14884628]

>>14884541
kek this

[Anonymous No.14884632]

Commenters “love science” just as long as nobody points out obvious mistakes in it. Then they are all desperately trying to cover it up by posting stupid shit.
If you love science then you should have an interest in fixing it when it is stupidly wrong.
Not hiding from the facts like flat earthers.

[Anonymous No.14884633]

>>14884592
He's still arguing in the comment section of his "debate"

[Anonymous No.14884635]

>>14884633
This is unreasonable behavior.
Stop trolling.
Do you have a psychological problem facing facts or what?

[Anonymous No.14884641]

>>14884621
>12000 rpm does not happen
"The power a Formula One engine produces is generated by operating at a very high rotational speed, up to 20,000 revolutions per minute (rpm). However, they are electronically limited to 15,000 as of 2021 season"
Or is this 12k rpm related to something else?

[Anonymous No.14884652]

>>14884641
Please click the link and scroll down to example 4 and observe the demonstration which does not do 12000 rpm by going to the suggested timestamp in the video. http://www.baur-research.com/Physics/measure.html

[Anonymous No.14884673]

>>14884652
When someone says: Please click the link
>You dont click the link

[Anonymous No.14884691]

>>14884673
Then don’t ask me stupid fucking ignorant questions and stfu cunt.

I don’t need your shit go and shit somewhere else. Idiot.

[Anonymous No.14884693]

>>14884624
Thank god Mandlbaur hasn't ruined that thread yet

[Anonymous No.14884700]

>>14884427
>We are idiots for supporting science that is false.

I study maths and phsyics to dunk on professors........why do you study it?

[Anonymous No.14884703]

>>14884700
I studies physics 30 years ago and now have discovered that there is a stupid mistake being made.
If you had any interest in physics, you would address my discovery instead of personally insulting me in evasion of it.

[Anonymous No.14884704]

>>14884632
Fixing what?

[Anonymous No.14884705]

>>14884693
This is unreasonable ad hominem behavior.

Stop trolling and behaving like a playground bully.

Why are you so emotionally affected by my discovery?

[Anonymous No.14884707]

>>14884704
To fix the problem, you have to recognize that angular momentum is not conserved and start measuring things to find out what is.

[Anonymous No.14884715]

>>14884707
What problem?

[Anonymous No.14884719]

>>14884703
You've addressed nothing and are having either a schizo moment or a woman moment...

Lulz is the hypothesis. Will it produce?

Science says yes, yes it will.

[Anonymous No.14884725]

>>14884715
The problem that angular momentum is not conserved.

Do you think that behaving obtusely is somehow reasonable and communicating?

[Anonymous No.14884729]

>>14884705
>>>/g/88886440

[Anonymous No.14884730]

>>14884719
The hypothesis is that angular momentum is conserved and the fact that COAM predicts 12000 rpm for a hand held classic demonstration and it is objectively wrong means that the the “law” of COAM is wrong. That is the. Scientific method in action.

[Anonymous No.14884731]

>>14884725
What theory would you use instead and what measurements are you referencing that prove your theory that things spontaneously spin slower or faster without external application of torque or friction?

[Anonymous No.14884734]

>>14884729
Fuck off. What the fuck is wrong with you. I know you are a tranny but that doesn’t justify this stupid shit behavior of yours. Go fuck yourself and leave me the duck alone. Cunt.

[Anonymous No.14884735]

>>14884731
I would use conservation of angular energy because independent experiment confirms perfectly that it is correct.

[Anonymous No.14884737]

>>14884734
>>>/g/88886440

[Anonymous No.14884742]

>>14884737
Go fuck your self you piece of stinking shit.

[Anonymous No.14884744]

>>14884742
come to the soijak site please

[Anonymous No.14884746]

>>14884735
Why would energy get conserved but not momentum when there is a direct energy-momentum relationship that just consists of a few constants depending on the body in motion?

[Anonymous No.14884749]

>>14884730
Ok, I loosley read it over, watched a video on it, and it sounds like it goes against my known physics knowledge.

Thats all...I looked it over, it doesnt add up to me, and so I moved on. I do that for lots of "official" shit so its not that wild for me to see something and say "Mmm, no."

[Anonymous No.14884817]

>>>/lit/21058351

[Anonymous No.14884916]

>>14884749
It is the known physics. 12000 rpm is the existing physics prediction by the book.

You are unscientific to ignore the evidence because the evidence falsifies your beliefs.

That is totally unreasonable.

[Anonymous No.14884918]

>>14884746
Momentum is conserved when energy is conserved. What are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.14884922]

>>14884744
So your robot can waste my time and you can stop having a trannyfit because you are shitting yourself that perhaps I convince someone on a site where there are actual people.

[Anonymous No.14884938]

>>14884918
I am talking about how >>14884725 >>14884735 said that angular momentum is not conserved because angular energy is instead which is confusing since they are directly related by some material constants.

[Anonymous No.14884945]

>>14884938
Do you understand that L = r x p?

Momentum is not directly related to angular momentum.

Got it?

[Anonymous No.14884953]

>>14884945
That is the formula of a direct relationship, though. You are showing that p is directly in a r factor relationship with L. Do you understand what a direct relationship is?
>an association between two variables such that they rise and fall in value together.

[Anonymous No.14884976]

>>14884953
P is directly related to energy. L is related to p and r. Changing r can affect L without affecting the energy. Got it?

[Anonymous No.14885008]

>>14884195
>>14884540
So based. Science rules, bros!

[Anonymous No.14885014]

>>14885008
Yes, that is why science predicts 12000 rpm for a classic classroom demonstration because it rules. Like fucking flat earthers rule, moron.

[Anonymous No.14885031]

Math is pretty gay though

[Anonymous No.14885050]

>>14884976
L is directly related to both p and r by factors of each other.
If L is directly related to P, then so are both p and r because they are directly related to L.

[Anonymous No.14885067]

>>14885050
Do you understand that it is mathematically impossible to conserve the magnitude of p at the same time you conserve L unless you conserve r as well?

[Anonymous No.14885073]

>>14884916
>12000 rpm is the existing physics prediction by the book.
What book? Post the equation/pictures instead of arguing with ghosts. I watched some of the video, Im not convinced by it because its not succinct.

If it was legit it would be in a less than 10 minute video, like a physics equation is succinct.

It doesnt refute shit, it rambles like a novice.

[Anonymous No.14885108]

>>14885073
Rebuttal number 8 : https://www.researchgate.net/publication/357302312_Rebuttals

[Anonymous No.14885139]

>>14885108
Wouldnt the increase of rotation speed not be a flat "multiplication" because of loss of efficiency, *why greater speeda are not achieved linearly to increased energy?

I agree...academia is missing some big answers to big questions. Just my work is in other areas.

[Anonymous No.14885243]

>>14885139
No. The increases rotational speed is simply because the radius is reduced so the mass traveling at the same speed (because in simple terms the momentum is conserved in magnitude and only the direction changes) so it spins faster but it does not move faster as COAM demands.

So it is very clear and obvious that angular momentum is not conserved.

This is not a big answer to a big question. This is a very simple answer to a very small question. Unfortunately it has been misapplied to the big things and so there is a prior investment logical fallacy going on.

[Anonymous No.14885295]

>>14885243
>traveling at the same speed
But changing direction much faster.
>only the direction changes
Yes and doing so I would think it would not be a linear increase of rotation, as the increase is splitting the direction until the distance is reduced. Sorry, Im viewing this from a Astrophysicist/Spacetime perspective so Im trying to not think of this as celestial objects.

Like the reason why engine in a car acclerates a car slower and slower even though energy=speed, inefficiencies, drag, decreased torque etc etc.

Seems to me it is but that the equation isnt quite right but close. Wouldnt be the first time humanity used an imperfect equation. Someone should write a new one and name it with their last name.

[Anonymous No.14885315]

>>14885295
Well the fact is that my claim is confirmed if you measure it.

[Anonymous No.14885320]

>>14885315
I'll suggest it again;

Those midwits in academia...who's entire lively hood is founded on those lies, will reject every truth you present.

They will not let you make them obsolete.

I know. Ive been there, done that. They dont care for the Truth. They have degrees to sell at a quarter mil a pop. Youre gunna take their meal ticket from them.

[Anonymous No.14885339]

>>14885320
Their meal ticket is not on the line.

What the fuck are you talking about.

[Anonymous No.14885354]

>>14885339
The person thats reviewing your paper is a phsycist.....your paper says he is wrong.
>This is what you handed him.
...into the trash it goes.

[Anonymous No.14885380]

>>14885354
Yes, I am aware of their criminal behavior.

What is your suggestion?

[Anonymous No.14885383]

[Anonymous No.14885389]

>>14884540
This but the other way around for me

[Anonymous No.14885397]

>>14885380
Work with your peers, they too are locked out by peer review. Eric Weinstein made it obvious. Sabine's paper on the expansion of the universe was rejected for not have a section defining how it would "effect women and people of color".

Literally said that, she deleted the tweet because she knows her job in on the line.

Just.....know youre not alone. There are others, same issue of provable, validated, works.

>Geocentrism was taught, even when Heliocentrism was invented.
>Darwin was mocked.
>Tesla was a pariah.

Youre not alone.

[Anonymous No.14885402]

>>14885397
I am entirely alone. There are no “peers”.

You are just blabbering total fucking bullshit.

I am the person who discovered that angular momentum is not conserved and there is nobody who is supporting me.
Don’t try and tell me there are others. That is total fuckign bullshit. What is your fucking game. What the fuck do you want from me?

[Anonymous No.14885410]

>>14885397
Going against academia is as old as time itself.

That is what I want from you...to see men like you have liged throughout history and paid much steeper prices from proclaiming;

Truth!

[Anonymous No.14885411]

>>14885410
>>14885402
Oops*

[Anonymous No.14885416]

>>14885411
Okay. There is someone supporting me. Thank you. Hopefully more will follow. I cannot believe how insane people behave. Fuck me.

[Anonymous No.14885422]

>>14885416
Penrose and Weinstein's works overlap mine and mine strongly contradcits academia.

Time will force them...but as mortals our time to see it through is limited.

Such is the fate of good men.

[Jealous No.14885423]

>>14885402
>I am entirely alone. There are no “peers”.

[Anonymous No.14885427]

>>14885423
>Jealous
When one is above the clouds...its cold and alone...but the view is beyond measure.

[Anonymous No.14885430]

>>14885422
Well I don’t accept that something so simple can just be neglected.
A five year old can understand that 12000 rpm is objectively wrong. I don’t know what your work is, but mine is so ducking simple and clear and obvious that even a five year old can understand it and I don’t accept that academia can just neglect what I have discovered.

I am going to push harder and harder until someone wakes the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.14885446]

>>14884207
another 12000 rpm schizo

[Anonymous No.14885450]

>>14885430
>Well I don’t accept that something so simple can just be neglected.

And I understand that, I wish you the best of luck, but to remember they do not care about the truth or playing fair.

My work is the outer edge of theoretical physics with zero applied experiements...so all I have are my equations.

You at least have something to show the commoners.
All I have is an alien language.

[Anonymous No.14885451]

>>14885446
No. I am John Mandlbaur and I am the only reasonable person on the planet who can accept that the existing physics prediction of 12000 rpm is wrong.
You are the evasive faggot who is shit scared to face simple facts.

[Anonymous No.14885454]

>>14885450
Well thank you.

Good luck to you too.

Hopefully when the angular momentum house of cards collapses, your work will be seen.

[Anonymous No.14886294]

>>14884195
how did you acquire that knowledge?

[Anonymous No.14886758]

>>14884445
Too fucking true. The fact that this dolt can type this from Brazil on a Kathmandu kinetoscope viewing party is proof that 90% of humans are literally functionally retarded.

[Anonymous No.14886762]

>>14885450
You are a worthless talentless trash

[Anonymous No.14886873]

>>14884445

[Anonymous No.14886876]

>>14884195
>ctrl-f "deleted
>48 results

[Anonymous No.14887018]

>>14886762
Well you are attacking the person instead of their argument so you a disgusting piece of shit and your cunt stinks

[Anonymous No.14887023]

>>14885446
Nope. There is only one person who discovered that COAM is false and he is reasonable. You are the schizo because you are afraid of the truth.

[Anonymous No.14887029]

The truth is literally being censored here and the reason is pure fear of the truth.

Moderators are biased and censoring the victim of personal attacks and trolling.

Disgusting behavior.

[Anonymous No.14887188]

>>14884195
Yeah Mr. White! Yeah science!

[Anonymous No.14887199]

>>14887188
Science is great and can only get better when the scientists eventually apply the scientific method and reject the “law” of conservation of angular momentum because 12000 rpm prediction is wrong for the typical ball on a string demonstration.

Unfortunately, scientists are blinded by bias and act like flat earth assholes and refuse to measure or accept any independent measurements.

Yeah science.

Boo current modern scientists.