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Anonymous Mon Sep 26 22:42:37 2022 No.14877734 [Reply] [Original]

What are the implications of the Banach Tarski Paradox in physics?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:39:03 2022 No.14878441 no implications. zero measure sets aren't physical. they'd require constraining quantum wavefuntions in ways that would violate uncertainty principles.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 01:34:39 2022 No.14878525 >>14878441 >https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/bf02213427 Not true. There is a link between Banach Tarski and quantum particles. I.e. ending up with more articles than we began with via collision.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 17:26:42 2022 No.14880515 >>14877734 Vsauce already debunked this. :^)

lets exchange contact info Wed Sep 28 07:04:37 2022 No.14882091
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>>14877734
>What are the implications of the Banach Tarski Paradox in physics?
The same as the implication of the Ship of Theseus Paradox in physics I reckon.

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 07:20:31 2022 No.14882111 [DELETED]

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>>14877734
schizophasiac namedropping should be entirely neglected in physics, it isn't significant in any way. the posers and wannabes who engage in it are telegraphing that they have no knowledge, talent or ability in the field and should be avoided.

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 07:35:35 2022 No.14882140

>>14877734
>What are the implications of the Banach Tarski Paradox in physics?
None. If you think about it for a second, the most basic premise of this "paradox" is that the sphere is an infinite set of points. Physical things aren't made up from an infinite number of points, anon.

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 07:57:37 2022 No.14882161

>>14882111
>schizophasiac namedropping

False. Each of the Greats percieved reality in certain ways that others cannot and when one name drops, like I do, I am refering to their perspectives.

Example: Tesla's perspective was scalar. Mine is radian.

We overlap, but are not the same. I can see much of his works, but there are aspects of his works that work in ways that simply do not compute for me.

THAT is true name dropping. If you cannot tell between a charlatan and a genius...it is You that is the dunce.

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:00:38 2022 No.14882163

>>14882140
>Physical things aren't made up from an infinite number of points

Cool, 360* circle? Why not 360,000,000? Can you add more specificity to this equation?

>How many Zeroes can you fit on the head of a pin?

When applied to physics the issues lies in many numbers producing the same outcome...well...until the standard model...and maybe more. The further we go down the more we seem to see. Like the periodic table is inverting into a whole new set...

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:02:38 2022 No.14882165 >>14882163 Incoherent schizorambling. I can already tell your future involves antipsychotic medication.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:04:34 2022 No.14882168 >>14882165 I'm almost certain this is the same schizo who was spouting off nonsense yesterday about entangled black holes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:07:28 2022 No.14882170 >>14882161 >Example: Tesla's perspective was scalar. Mine is radian. Wtf does this even mean? It's absolute and utter schizobabble. Take your meds.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:08:10 2022 No.14882171 >>14882165 >point out amatuer mistakes meds!!!! No, the teacher doesnt hate you. You failed the test because youre kind of stupid.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:09:25 2022 No.14882172 File: 358 KB, 1812x2048, 1647652401017.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14882170 >Wtf does this even mean Exactly....youre a dunce. A midwit. Normal. NORMIE. Go watch PBS spacetime.

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:15:39 2022 No.14882177

>>14882168
>entangled black holes

Not him but sounds interesting. Every read about the electeic charge "portal" connecting earth and the sun? Neat shit.

I........wonder if a blakc hole, producing More charge at much higher rates could do something waay bigger at waaay greater distanced.

I mean....the ejection poles of a black hole reach lightyears.

Got a link? Im interested in his research.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:27:57 2022 No.14882190 >>14882171 The absolute state of the lack of dopamine antagonists in your brain.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:30:21 2022 No.14882192 File: 6 KB, 268x255, logo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14882190 Youre not physicist OR mathematician. Whats your field, boy? I wanna crush you in languages you understand.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:46:22 2022 No.14882202 >>14882192 I am a physicist and I'm telling you that objects aren't made up from an infinity of 0-dimensional points. Not that you need to be a physicist to know this. Anyway, where is your parent and/or legal guardian?

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 08:53:23 2022 No.14882210
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>>14882202
>objects aren't made up from an infinity of 0-dimensional points
We can define metrics, not the universe, and when the two align we get actualized physics. This is what seperates pure math from physics.

Youre a shit physicist that needs more maths classes.

>0-dimensional
Youre trying to add physicality to 0-dimensions. You way dont have the maths background to even attempt such a thing in physics because I am dimension heavy and even I dont. Polydimensional mathematics is literally my forte and the reason I stepped into this thread.

I didnt even know it had any application in physics, I was seeing it from a pure math perspective. And here you are...not being able to differentiate the two...

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:05:24 2022 No.14882217 File: 60 KB, 475x382, 1633515371597.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Real physicist here. I just come here to post frogs. Haha. Btw you guys are dumb dumbs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:06:38 2022 No.14882218 >>14882210 Holy mental illness... Okay. No point bullying you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:08:21 2022 No.14882219 >>14882217 >Real physicist here. Yeah? Name all the physical constants.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:08:22 2022 No.14882220 File: 72 KB, 553x554, images - 2021-05-09T012749.539.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14882218 Checkmate. Take the L like a man, boy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:09:57 2022 No.14882222 File: 76 KB, 640x480, Risperidone.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14882220 Take the M, schizo.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:10:16 2022 No.14882223 >>14882219 >Recite the lines of my holy scholar scriptures!! Yeah, some dude once said the Earth revolves around the sun and was called a heretic that "didnt know anything about geocenretism.". Double checkmate.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:10:22 2022 No.14882224 File: 19 KB, 269x283, 1640791303358.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14882219 Why should I?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 09:12:23 2022 No.14882225 File: 846 KB, 244x234, 1640446755508.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14882222 >no longer discusses physics or maths Take your off-topic posts back to /b/.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 11:13:50 2022 No.14882428 >>14882177 Black holes aren't necessary in an electric model, so they're not compatible.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 11:15:36 2022 No.14882437 >>14882163 There's a minimum length in physics, enumerated by a fellow named Max Planck. That would be the hard limit on how small you can subdivide a sphere in practical reality.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 11:23:32 2022 No.14882464 >>14882437 NTA, I thought the Planck length was a limit on the precision of linear measures, i.e., a shorter length can't be verified. But that doesn't entail that a shorter length can't exist, unless you're working with intuitionistic logic.

Anonymous Wed Sep 28 11:27:13 2022 No.14882473

>>14882437
Finite (based of physics), not;
>"Physical things aren't made up from an infinite number of points"

The statement wasnt "until plank length". I am well aware of Plank as anyone that knows of Banach Tarski would.

Read; >>14882163
>When applied to physics the issues lies in many numbers producing the same outcome

As in measures so small that they proced the same answer in physics. I know. I said as much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 28 11:28:36 2022 No.14882481 >>14882464 In all practicality it's the same thing. If you can't verify a measurement smaller than that, how can you be sure of anything at that scale? It's simply irrelevant to attempt to subdivide things into smaller sizes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 06:53:19 2022 No.14884524 >>14877734 None. It's a semantic trick.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 07:01:42 2022 No.14884534 >>14884524 Midwits (i.e. you) should refrain from using the word "semantic".

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 29 07:03:46 2022 No.14884537 >>14882428 >electric model Its also an incomplete model...so yeah, its necessary.

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