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>the first person to live to 200 years old has already been born

>> No.14872550
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>>14872536

>> No.14872552
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https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-techies-wet-dreams

> The techies may answer that even if almost all biological species are eliminated eventually, many species survive for thousands or millions of years, so maybe techies too can survive for thousands or millions of years. But when large, rapid changes occur in the environment of biological species, both the rate of appearance of new species and the rate of extinction of existing species are greatly increased.[22] Technological progress constantly accelerates, and techies like Ray Kurzweil insist that it will soon become virtually explosive;[23] consequently, changes come more and more rapidly, everything happens faster and faster, competition among self-propagating systems becomes more and more intense, and as the process gathers speed the losers in the struggle for survival will be eliminated ever more quickly. So, on the basis of the techies' own beliefs about the exponential acceleration of technological development, it's safe to say that the life-expectancies of human-derived entities, such as man-machine hybrids and human minds uploaded into machines, will actually be quite short. The seven-hundred year or thousand-year life-span to which some techies aspire[24] is nothing but a pipe-dream.

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https://akarlin.substack.com/p/grey-skies-ahead-for-life-extension

>Moreover, as I pointed out to them on Twitter, investors will now be warier of investing long-term into something that folds so quickly to mob pressure. Personally speaking, $VITA is my one coin where I’m unironically “in it for the tech.” Said tech involves not dying this century. It doesn’t listening to Dr. Robin DiAngelo’s future lectures on how life extension will immortalize white supremacy and perpetuate systems of oppression against women and POC. To the extent that DAOs are meant to guard against this, it is not the most auspicious start.

>> No.14873104

>>14872536
Where are the 140ish, 160ish, and so on people then?

>> No.14873528

>>14873104
They are here but haven't reached that age yet.

>> No.14873539

>>14872536
You say this, and then a nuclear exchange happens within a week. That person is vaporized or irradiated.

>> No.14874024

>>14872536
They will never achieve anything. Not because it's impossible but because it's pozzed

>> No.14874054

>>14872536
maybe if you didn't get run out of sens by the kike infiltrator and had 800 billion dollars in funding, aubrey

>> No.14875951

>>14874024
Alas, very fucking true.
Look at these mugs, look at how dull they are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y9I7N3vBsY

>> No.14875970

>>14872536
>the first people to be forever there will be zoomers
Grim.
And you thought you had it bad with boomers.

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>>14875970
Those people are generation before boomers.
Millions now living will never die is said long time ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDt4_n6xP0M
> The album's title is a reference to a phrase used in the Jehovah's Witness faith in the 1920s.

>> No.14876109

>>14875970
zoomers seem less retarded than millennials. Everything shit about the present had to come through millenials first, zoomers introduced nothing yet

>> No.14876129

>>14875970
>>14876109
My fellow goyim, we shouldn't hate the jews.
You know who we should really hate?
The other generations of our own families.

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>>14872536
It's not me.

>> No.14876408

>>14872536
He's going to create a new company now.

>> No.14876424
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>>14872536
>>the first person to live to 200 years old has already been born

BULLSHIT.
Show me ANY method that they say works that will produce a colony of mice than live 300% longer than normal mice.
Just show me ONE mouse that all your snake oils applied to that is 500% older than a normal mouse.
NOTHING that they say will work ACTUALLY produces mammals that live consistently 400% more than a normal member of that mammal species

>> No.14876532

Man lives less than before and is weaker and sicker than ever. But the propaganda would have you believe the opposite, as usual. If you turn to the true history book, you would see how man once lived much longer.

Genesis 5:27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.

>> No.14876538

>>14876424
Does naked molerat count? How much are you allowed to genetically modify a mouse until it's not a mouse anymore. The idea is to modify a human so it becomes something else.

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>>14876538
>Does naked molerat count?

ANY mammal will do, just demonstrate how your snake oil will produce a mammal that lives 500% longer than a normal member of the species.

>> No.14876609

>>14876552
>just demonstrate how your snake oil will produce a mammal that lives 500%
It will take some time, because why would you work on making mice live ten year, why wait ten years, if you can work on making humans younger and mice won't help you much because they die of oxidative stress which is not what humans age of.
For you, as a consumer, the question is valid, but if you don't start educating yourself to understand the theoretic rationales, you will die of old age ignoring the actual cure because of your scepsis
Or, rather, the medicine will become so much affordable, that you will take it just in case.

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>>14876609
>Or, rather, the medicine will become so much affordable, that you will take it just in case

No.
Scientist declare eggs are good for you, then ONLY egg whites are good for you, then ONLY Egg yolks are good for you, then eggs are NOT good for you, then the cycle repeats.

I am not buying your snake oil until you PROVE it works!
Mice live short lives, show me that giving your snake oil to a mouse leads to an average 300-500% longer life.

>> No.14878933

>>14876022
what the difference between millions now living, and like, hudnreds of thousands? I imagine the filter will still be great, even it's not even based on current age but just the strugle of getting the first generation of life extension to go smoothly, even if not technogy wise but the general sentiment about taking it or people already being to fucked healthwise to get over the final hurdle

>> No.14879356

>>14878910
>Scientist declare
So you're not a scientist yourself? You only believe in science?
> I am not buying your snake oil
not my problem, nobody's going to force you to
(you didn't even understand that what works in mice might not work in you)

>> No.14879361

>>14878933
> I imagine the filter will still be great
You imagine wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxO9l8_UEuw

>> No.14879366

>>14879361
well it's all conjecture, I don't actually have any strong belief that there will be a filter, but just bringing it up to stir discussion, I do think people will fight like hell on every angle to make sure the people they don't like don't live very long

>> No.14879399

>>14879366
Exactly. People shouldn't wait unil old age removes dictators.

>> No.14879403

>>14872555
>anatoly "psued" karlin
Dropped

>> No.14879422

>>14872536
I wish I could personally witness the desperate dying tantrums of troonhumanists when they realize it's over. Imagine the smell of piss, shit and vomit that accompanies a dying anti-aging coper. Imagine the absolute breakdown and loss of sanity. lol

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>>14879422
>N-N-NO P-P-PLEASE!!
>HOW CAN THIS BE HAPPENING TO ME??
>I WAS A FAITHFUL FOLLOWER OF THE SCIENCE!!
>P-P-PLEASE!!
>IMMORTALITY IN TWO MORE WEEKS, P-PLEASE, JUST TWO MORE WEEKS
>NOOOOO!!!
>I DON'T WANNA DIE!! MOOM! MOOOOOM!!

>> No.14879443

>>14875970
>the first people to be forever there will be zoomers
Lmao no. Zoomers are in their late teens and early twenties.
The new generation of children doesn't have a name yet. But I'm sure that the zoomers will hate them for no reason, just like you millennials hate zoomers for no reason. Idiot.

>> No.14879448

>>14879443
Everyone hates zoomers because they are the epitome of mass-manufactured corporate cattle. Go eat your tide pods, drone.

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>>14872555
>Personally speaking, $VITA is my one coin where I’m unironically “in it for the tech.
lol, lmao

>> No.14879502

>>14879422
heh, yeah

>> No.14879570

>>14879422
Nice projection. Believe it or not, it's not about fear of dying. Like half of me is almost suicidal. The other half feels utter sense of responsibility to deliver the gifts I've been gifted with. Weed helps to soothe the former half, and alcohol may make me insane so that you normie faggots have to legalize cannabis for your own sake. And my promise to myself that I have already invented the more comfortable environment and now I only have to get myself together and build it (the promise is that I will build it. That I shall) this promise also helps me to keep on dragging myself through this world full of retards (with a retard in me as well, I recognize it, do not doubt me) so I hope I have enlightened you a little with an insight into the head of a mad scientist and queer artist.

>> No.14879573

>>14879448
>they are the epitome of mass-manufactured corporate cattle
wrong. you are.

>> No.14879579

>>14879570
>Believe it or not, it's not about fear of dying.
Then why do your hands start to shake every time you write the word "dying", and why do you explode in rage every time you're reminded that you're 100% going to die in the next 70 years, and probably much sooner?

>> No.14879596

>>14879579
You're imagining things, kiddo.
I literally provoke gangsters when I'm drunk, so no fear here.

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>>14879422

Freaks with a mountains of pills and various potions, weekly check ups, starving themselves to be razor thin... all for the idea of living forever... never once noticing that the vary people pushing the idea are themselves aging rapidly BUT getting rich off of pushing their snake oil on the deluded fools.

You ARE going to die, NOTHING you do will stop that. There is no secret way to extend your life for hundreds of years.
Do not waste your money until the snake oil salesmen can show PROOF.

>> No.14880311

>>14876532
Shit translation. The real Methuselah was a king, his kingdom lasted for 969 (or 99 or 96 or 91 or 919 or 911) years. If you knew hebrew you'd know how hard it can be to tell written numbers apart when you're reading a ten year old scroll by candlelight at 2AM like a good scribe bitchboy.

>> No.14880315

>>14876538
one drop rule

>> No.14880323

>>14879579
The definition of projection

>> No.14880357

>>14872555
>as I pointed out to them on Twitter
stopped reading right there. cant believe this world we live in.

>> No.14880848

>>14879443
>you millennials hate zoomers
This is wrong. I'm a millenial and I fucking love zoomer pussy.

>> No.14880851

>>14880315
In russian human is chelovek (which reminds telovek (telo=body, vek=century))
So the point is to evolve into something better.

>> No.14880899

>>14880851
chelo is forehead.

>> No.14880984

>>14880899
Homonymy.

>> No.14880988

>>14880899
Homonymy, because forehead of eyelids is meaningless.

>> No.14881003

I'm just gonna pay $500,000 to freeze myself for 200 years, cryo has always been the near term path

>> No.14881015

>>14881003
I'd spend 10% of that sum to genetically modify myself to live longer (this option is better whether you understand genetic rejuvenation or not, because vitrification is not on the market yet, they only recently managed to vitrify a brain, and I think it costs even more)

>> No.14881033

>>14881015
It's all a matter of time, I'm not convinced I'll be able to genetically modify myself to live long enough that natural death is overtaken by the LEV. On the flip side, I think vitrification is a reasonable scientific target for the next, say, 50 years? Realistically though, why not both, increasing lifespan via modification to live long enough that you're able to safely go into stasis seems the most practical. I just don't believe anyone alive today will live 300+ years without stasis of some form.

>> No.14881082

>>14881033
> LEV
was ist das?
> I just don't believe
das ist gut. don't. research.

>> No.14881085

>>14872536
IT AINT ME
IT AINT ME

>> No.14881095

>>14881082
LEV is just longevity escape velocity, i.e. at some point medicine will able to meet the demands of aging well enough that aging is counteracted. It's the basic concept of quasi-immortality

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>>14881095
I see. My point it this point is right now. For half a million you can genetically modify ten people (and the next year - twenty) you should look deeper into it if you're interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1zr6JsS5t8

>> No.14881207

>>14875951
and.. my comment is shadowbanned

>> No.14881216

>>14881085
ナイス
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0XKhAHR5I

>> No.14881447

>>14879403
>>14879489
>>14880357
Nice argumentation, as always, ladies.
Is he wrong though?
and the comment section is equally fascinating:
> What is becoming clearer is that female power disrupts organizations, turning cold masculine efficiency into a heated middle school cauldron of bitter acrimony.

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>>14881447
I didn't get past the first line, to be honest. Did he mean "strength to strength", perhaps? Why should I read something if the author can't even proofread the first line?

>> No.14881459

>>14881454
*sighs*

>> No.14881481

How can I help speed this process along?

>> No.14881491

>>14881481
Invent or invest.

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>>14872536
>>14872550
prove it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Outsiders.html

>> No.14882022

>>14872536
I don't think nuclear war prolongates life.
besides, anyone living to 200 years will most likely come from a genetically engineered fetus, so that's a no.

>> No.14882745

>>14881447
How insightful. Did he by any chance postulate any original thoughts amongst these recycled aphorisms and bromides?

>> No.14882799

>>14882022
How about you read the books before spouting your stupid opinions.

>> No.14882876

>>14872536
I'll live even longer than that! Biological immortality is not only possible, it already happened multiple times on earth.

>> No.14882878

>>14876538
Or to take a medicine every day that will keep up all necessary cleaning and repairing processes required to keep you young and healthy. There's plenty of candidates right now like CaAKG.

>> No.14882883

>>14880287
>never once noticing that the vary people pushing the idea are themselves aging rapidly
Name some then.
>You ARE going to die
Maybe at the end of the universe
>NOTHING you do will stop that.
Except medicine.
>There is no secret way to extend your life for hundreds of years.
Says who? There's animals who have achieved immortality and we can do so too.

>> No.14882888

>>14882022
Gene therapy works on existing humans already.

>> No.14883326

>>14882878
I don't want to take medicine. Medicine sucks.

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>> No.14883410

>>14872536
This man is going to prison.

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>>14882883
>Name some then.

Aubrey de Grey, Ray Kurzweil, David Andrew Sinclair, etc.

>> No.14883475

>>14883346
No one here falls for it. They're wasting their time

>> No.14883498

>>14883326
Then you'll die.
>>14883468
de Grey looks pretty good for someone born in 1963.
Kurzwell was born in fucking 1948 and also looks young.
Sinclair, born in 1969, also looks younger than he really is.

Makes you think that what they are doing actually works.

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>>14883498

They will all die.
"Looking younger" and "looking better" is an industry, but they are NOT younger and they die at the same rate as everyone else.

>> No.14883549

>>14883534
>They will all die.
Eventually at the end of the universe, yes.
>"Looking younger" and "looking better" is an industry
They don't wear makeup.
>but they are NOT younger
But they look younger. The skin is an organ too and it looks relatively healthy for all of them despite their age.
>at the same rate as everyone else.
Nope. They will live into the 100s and longer.

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>>14883549
>Nope. They will live into the 100s and longer.

NO, they will not.
You hope so, but they will age and die just like everyone else.

The MOST you can hope for is to pull a Jack LaLanne and die a strong healthy man in your late 90s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_LaLanne

If there was ANY real proof of a major life extension technique of at LEAST 300% increased life, then I would be first in line to hand over 1/2 of my fortune for it.

>> No.14883740

>>14872536
This so called MAN, this DOG, this fucking BEAST will go to PRISON for RAPE!

>> No.14885163

>>14883616
>>14883740
What is your agenda, faggot?