/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.1486864]

Is rain a random phenomenon? Can we predict the pattern of raindrops on the ground?

[Anonymous No.1486871]

thats some serious chaos theory stuff bro.

not anytime soon

[Anonymous No.1486865]

>PhD in mathematics
>any jon i want
>300k it's raining men

[Anonymous No.1486883]

Well in absolute terms, if given the proper tools and understanding. You could predict the pattern of rain fall.

[Anonymous No.1486953]

>>1486883
well if we understand everything then nothing is truly random

[Anonymous No.1486971]

>>1486953

[Anonymous No.1487022]

Random, no.
Can we understand it, no.

Nothing is actually random in the universe. Everything has some pattern or parameter that dictates behavior, the problem is the complexity of finding this out and how little we actually know about things in the big picture.

[Anonymous No.1487035]

>>1487022

no, "radioactive decay is truly random (rather than merely chaotic)"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_decay

[Anonymous No.1487037]

>>1487022
Yeah, uh, Quantum Physics says fuck your hidden variables.

[Anonymous No.1487044]

>PhD in mathematics
>any jon i want
>300k ecstasy

[Anonymous No.1487042]

>>1487035
How do we know this is true rather than we just don't have the knowledge or tools to prove otherwise.

[Anonymous No.1487136]

Well, I remember Schrodinger's Cat Theory being tested by putting a radioactively decaying atom in a vacuum with no observers and sending an electron through to test if it was at an alive/dead state. The result was that the electron passed through, meaning it didn't attach itself to the already decayed atom, but they opened the box and found that some type of electron did attach itself to the deacyING atom. Thus proving the theory that >Everything is actually random in the universe.

Or at least that randomness does indeed exist. See, either could have happened, and the universe couldn't determine which one did, so there is randomness that wasn't predetermined before the experiment ever started.

Also, not sure if this experiment actually happened. Remember reading it in a popular science issue when I was around twelve. Can anyone direct me to it, possibly. Also, feel free to correct me or shut me down. Just thought the Schrodinger's Cat theory would be a good way to explain how randomness definitely exists.

[Anonymous No.1487200]

>>1487136
Schroedinger's cat was more of a thought experiment to try to explain it's complexities, I doubt anyone has done it... although I'm sure someone's attempted it in the past

[Anonymous No.1487223]

>>1487136
>doesn't understand the point of Schrodinger's cat.

[Anonymous No.1487259]

One rain drop is random, a whole rain storm is statistics.

[Anonymous No.1487271]

>>1487136
you're kinda botching the Bell Experiments, which deal with the EPR Paradox

[Anonymous No.1487276]

>>1487042
welcome to why physics is currently the most inaccurate and undefinable science

[Anonymous No.1487283]

>PhD in mathematics
>any jon i want
>300k wasted hours

[Anonymous No.1487467]

Well... We can actually force rain to come... The chinese got this cannon where they shoot science up in the' air, in the war aginst that aggressiv desset they have...

But to predict where it comes - and where it comes, for that matter - is almost impossible. We can make guesses, on where its most likely to come, and what time of day ( morning, afternoon, noon ect. ) but thats about it... Sometimes its just a little clouded, and on the radar screen. We can see that it could be a chance of rain sections in it, and by measuring the humidity in the air, around that place where cloud A is, - and by looking on other clouds and winds that will meet cloud A, we can make a pretty good guess on where cloud A will travel and when it will drop rain...

Still only guesses... MotherNatur works in mysterious ways..

Hope this protip helps.. And excuss my bad grammar.

[Anonymous No.1487479]

>PhD in mathematics
>any jon i want
>300k aluminium particles induce rain