/sfg/ - Space Flight General

[Anonymous No.14834370]

Dynamic Fire Edition
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[Anonymous No.14834373]

What do you think?

[Anonymous No.14834376]

>>14834373
Why don't they just put two layers of tiles on there, so if some fall off there's still tiles underneath

[Anonymous No.14834378]

>>14834376
Twice the weight, which means less useful mass to orbit

[Anonymous No.14834385]

>>14834373
Why dont they attach two artemis boosters to make a cheap falcon succesor.

[Anonymous No.14834388]

>>14834370
FTS Archive
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KCJBL632oieD1r6JOh_5Eg9NTcf_-hH8?usp=sharing

21 European stamps. 17 from Hungary, 2 from Bulgaria and Poland each, and 1 from Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1D0BfVUA_nd4wSktc0dtPNJMhiWNDhkfn?usp=sharing

[Anonymous No.14834389]

>>14834376
If they can't keep one layer of tiles attached to steel what makes you think they can attach a layer of tiles on top of tiles?

[Anonymous No.14834403]

>>14834373
Haven't they worked on this problem for like a year? How hard can it be to attach tiles lmao

[Anonymous No.14834416]

>>14834403
space is hard ok

[Anonymous No.14834421]

Good morning, space fag general
When are we getting the results of Trappist 1's spectra analysis?

[Anonymous No.14834424]

>>14834373
That wing is getting fucked on reentry

[Anonymous No.14834426]

>>14834373
it's big and it's black

[Anonymous No.14834427]

>>14834421
Please be patient sirs, data analysis is hard :)

[Anonymous No.14834428]

>>14834424
>tmw this whole thing is cia psyops

[Anonymous No.14834431]

>>14834424
Starship doesn't have any wings

[Anonymous No.14834453]

>>14834427
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWw1lzDiEeg

[Anonymous No.14834454]

>>14834426
And he had a large weapon

[Anonymous No.14834455]

>>14834376
why not just stop going so fast before hitting the atmosphere?

[Anonymous No.14834462]

>>14834373
The fact that the rear wings get fucked so hard by testing tells me this is a problem with it vibrating being attached to the pad

All in all not a lot of tiles fell off for 6 engines so this is good progress

[Anonymous No.14834487]

>>14834455
Retrograde burns require more fuel. Cause they're burns.

[Anonymous No.14834493]

>>14834373
I'm telling you
tiles are a mistake, they should use some sort of aerospace-grade bedliner
just spray down the rocket with carbon fibre reinforced tar after each flight instead of shading tiles like confetti

[Anonymous No.14834495]

>>14834455
>>14834487
What if something in LEO deployed a large flat surface to 'catch' some of the escaping atmosphere and use that to control reentry?
Or do satellites already pretty much do that without an additional part?

[Anonymous No.14834500]

https://www.barrons.com/articles/globalstar-sinks-apple-deal-51662659637

> "Globalstar stock is still up about 17% since rumors the iPhone 13 would include satellite communications capability. The S&P 500 is down about 11% over the same span."

> "Confusion continues. Globalstar will be launching more satellites into low earth orbit, but stock in launch provider Rocket Lab USA was off about 3% in midday trading, but closed down 0.5%. Stock in launch provider Astra Space (ASTR) was down more than 5%, but closed down 0.4%."

> Starting points don’t help investors understand those reactions. Rocket Lab shares are down about 50% since the iPhone 13 rumors. Astra stock is down about 94% over the same span.

>It seems like investors are still figuring out the winners and losers from mobile phones connecting with satellites—as well as how big a deal it is for the commercial space business overall.

lmao

[Anonymous No.14834523]

>>14834500
author crying that he lost all his money lol, someone tell him to hodl

[Anonymous No.14834526]

>>14834500
I assume that's supposed to say iPhone 14 all over the place, no?

Good morning, /sfg/.

[Anonymous No.14834527]

>14834500
you have to go back

[Anonymous No.14834530]

>>14834500
Astra seems like something /biz/ would have bought kek

[Anonymous No.14834533]

>>14834500
investors are retards
investment writers are retards

[Anonymous No.14834536]

>>14834500
God what a moron.

>>14834530
/smg/ regular here, can confirm. Have had to repeatedly warn people against it. Shit, it's also a bad year to even consider the sector due to the Fed hiking interest rates.

[Anonymous No.14834557]

>>14834493
That would end the possibility of same day reflight. Tiles are optimal if they can be made to work.

[Anonymous No.14834558]

Post yfw Firefly achieves orbit before SLS

[Anonymous No.14834559]

>>14834530
It's down over 80% since my options strike price was set. A large part of why I bailed. I'm glad I never exercised anything lmao.

[Anonymous No.14834567]

booster atatic fire today?

[Anonymous No.14834569]

>>14834421
it'll just be a high entropy dead planet, who gives a fuck

[Anonymous No.14834605]

>>14834370
how can spacex be stopped?

[Anonymous No.14834607]

>>14834605
A CME would probably do it.

[Anonymous No.14834610]

>>14834605
Congress will save the day and lock up evil musk.

[Anonymous No.14834615]

>>14834370
I was gonna make an OP with the same picture but was afk. Glad some anon also converged on the optimal OP pic

[Anonymous No.14834619]

>>14834373
A well run base society is a product of two pareto biological factors: human intelligence (or g-factor, or IQ, or whatever you call it) and human pro-sociality (aka altruism, sharing etc).

We want to make people smarter and we want to add the caveat that they are also not psychopaths. if we can do this effectively, then exploring the solar system is just a game, to be played by everyone.

as for the controversy over how biological these factors are, ignore it. conservatives will tell you need to work harder. liberals will tell you we are all the same. they are both wrong.

if these factors can be significantly increased at the biological level, then we can have ten NASAs, a hundred SPACEXS, in every country on the world.

[Anonymous No.14834621]

>Elon doesn't like fusion power
It's over.

[Anonymous No.14834622]

>>14834495
would serve the same purpose as a deorbit burn. Once you actually start hitting the atmosphere than "thing" to catch the air would fall off or burn up

[Anonymous No.14834627]

>>14834373
More tile fell off toward the bottom. During flight the engines will be further away, presumably this could help

[Anonymous No.14834631]

>>14834621
He's wrong though. All you need is heavy water as the transport/storage form of fuel. Then electrolyze it on site and you have deuterium.

[Anonymous No.14834634]

>>14834621
what's the fuel for fusion reactors again?

[Anonymous No.14834639]

6 engine booster static nex week?

[Anonymous No.14834640]

>>14834634
There's a few choices. But most use zapped water.

[Anonymous No.14834642]

>>14834631
Remember when he said he had a Tesla in orbit around Mars? He's full of shit

[Anonymous No.14834647]

>>14834621
>Fusion would be expensive
Yes and fission is not? If we didnt have 60+ years of bullshit regulation of fission maybe. The market has apparently decided it will be easier and faster to develop wholly new technology than work within the bureaucratic hellscape that exists for contemporary nuclear reactors. I can see SMRs being a thing for fission, but those will require billions and a decade of development too. We wont know the effective cost of either until driven, well-managed companies (a la spacex) innovates on fission and fusion, and operates a reactor on the grid for extended period. I like Musk, but getting tired of him shilling solar+batteries as if it's all we need. Fuck that, we should be finding how to 10000X our current energy output by any means possible, and exponentially into the future

[Anonymous No.14834648]

>>14834631
???? Almost certainly he wasn't talking about D-D fusion.

[Anonymous No.14834655]

>>14834610
Thank God for Congress

[Anonymous No.14834657]

>>14834648
Well then he's smoking some good shit because D-D or D-3He are the only fusion fuels being seriously considered... and using heavy water to shield a fusion reactor lets you breed your own 3He, since it's a decay product of Tritium. Water and a neutron source, or "natural" heavy water, are really all you need for fusion fuel. The containment problem is by far the hardest one, which is why I think sheared flow stabilized Z-pinch is the best path.

[Anonymous No.14834659]

>>14834557
same day re-flight is not going to happen when your tiles are raining down on launchpad either

[Anonymous No.14834669]

maybe they can look into that evaporative cooling thing again + metal tiles

[Anonymous No.14834674]

>>14834657
>Deuterium–tritium fusion isn't being seriously considered but Elon Musk must be smoking something
What the fuck are you on?

[Anonymous No.14834675]

>>14834621
Of course he won't like anything he won't profit from, that's why he hates
>hydrogen powered cars
>nuclear power (both fission and fusion)
>gasoline

[Anonymous No.14834676]

>>14834619
You guys don't get anything done without psychopaths. The low-IQ ones should be exterminated though.

[Anonymous No.14834679]

>>14834674
Tritium's half life is too short. 3He is a stable isotope.

[Anonymous No.14834680]

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20220013431/downloads/HLS%20IAC_Final.pdf

> NASA’s Initial Artemis Human Landing System

I know about the pdf uploading, but thats gay

[Anonymous No.14834683]

>>14834676
>You guys don't get anything done without psychopaths.
Musk is an example

[Anonymous No.14834684]

>>14834675
>both fission and fusion
Oh sure, it really seemed like he hated fission when he was calling Europe stupid for shutting down nuclear plants

[Anonymous No.14834694]

>>14834680
>2 crew
the absolute state of NASA

[Anonymous No.14834700]

[Anonymous No.14834701]

>>14834680
Storage+depot will be the best looking rocket to ever launch

[Anonymous No.14834705]

Anyone on sfg want to come to IAC with me?

[Anonymous No.14834706]

>>14834679
Too short for what? Deuterium-Helium-3 fusion is hard mode because of the Coulomb barrier and there is not nearly enough heavy water/tritium to produce an appreciable amount of helium-3, nor would that be cost effective.

[Anonymous No.14834707]

>>14834705
As a date?

[Anonymous No.14834708]

https://spaceref.com/newspace-and-tech/vice-president-harris-announces-commitments-to-inspire-prepare-and-employ-the-space-workforce/

>The coalition, with the support of Aerospace Industries Association and American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, will stand up three regional pilot programs in Florida Space Coast, Louisiana/Mississippi’s Gulf Coast, and Southern California, and collaborate with service providers such as community colleges, unions and others, to demonstrate a replicable and scalable approach to attracting, training and creating employment opportunities particularly for people from backgrounds traditionally underrepresented in STEM jobs.

>Backgrounds traditionally underrepresented in STEM jobs
>Geographically restricted to places where there are already STEM jobs
[laughs in flyover]

[Anonymous No.14834713]

SLS update:

https://spacenews.com/nasa-preparing-for-late-september-artemis-1-launch-attempt/

>Once the seals are replaced and the lines reconnected, NASA will begin preparations for a tanking test, tentatively scheduled for Sept. 17. In that test, the agency will fill both the core stage and the upper stage of the SLS with liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen to verify the performance of the seals.

Give it up for WDR ... 6?

[Anonymous No.14834715]

It's over

[Anonymous No.14834716]

>>14834694
2 astronauts rattling around in a giant lander? lolwut I thought all 4 were going down

[Anonymous No.14834720]

>>14834715
what happened to the solarcity trial

[Anonymous No.14834721]

>>14834713
I have this feeling the more they test the more issues will come up and at some point they'll just have to launch it or give up.

[Anonymous No.14834728]

>>14834707
idk maybe :3

[Anonymous No.14834733]

>>14834708
this is good, we need more niggers and jews in aerospace

[Anonymous No.14834735]

>>14834715
lmao I just opened the initial filing and the very first things they establish are that

>In 2013, Dogecoin cryptocurrency was launched by co-founders Billy Markus and Jackson Palmer at a price of $0.0002 per coin (2/100 of a penny).
>Markus openly admitted that he created Dogecoin in about two hours as a joke and
that it relied 99.99% on the “greater fool theory.”

If they're going to lead with how the plaintiffs are complete morons I'm not sure how well the judge is going to receive their complaint that
>Since that time, nearly $2 trillion has been lost in the crypto marketplace as the entire crypto market cap is presently close to $1 trillion, crashing after Defendant Musk told the world on Saturday Night Live that crypto was, “a hustle.”

[Anonymous No.14834743]

I hate normies.
>see panicked social posts about how bee colonies are being raped by RF emissions
>wonder if this could be a problem for Mars agridomes since any highly automated living space is soaked in RF
>the panic all sources back to one book from 2006
>the book was based mostly on one study
>study's original authors have been unable to replicate the effect
>bee colony collapse most common in rural areas with weak RF emissions
>turns out it was a nutritional issue and feeding bees protein supplements fixes it
NONE of this except the 2006 book percolated out to normies because "everything is fine, relax" doesn't get book sales or clicks.

[Anonymous No.14834746]

>>14834713
It's the tower, not the vehicle.
The orange tank is new.

You can't fix the tower easily.

The next serious launch attempt will be in 2023.

[Anonymous No.14834755]

>depot

[Anonymous No.14834768]

>>14834675
Hydrogen cars are stupid.

It's a really expensive and inefficient way to make a battery electric car, with a short fill up at a gas station.

Toyota would be leading the BEV market. If they just made the mirai with lithium batteries.

[Anonymous No.14834772]

>>14834768
Ironically, hydrogen is SO inefficent to produce that sticking with ICE cars and using Terraform/Prometheus tech to synthesize the fuel out of the air would be cheaper.

[Anonymous No.14834773]

>>14834746
They get 1-2 round trips before orange rogget needs to be torn down for a rebuild.

[Anonymous No.14834778]

>>14834680
>>14834700
>Aft docking mechanism designs—key to the SpaceX propellant transfer architecture - have continued to mature.
ASS2ASS IS BACK BABY

[Anonymous No.14834793]

>>14834778
I'm not sure why it ever left
Ullage can be used if you're transferring fuel the same direction

[Anonymous No.14834809]

SpaceX should build 2 dragons as a orbital propellant transfer demonstration. Replace their nose docks with fuel ports. They dock to each other in orbit. Then pass cryogenic propellants back and forth.

[Anonymous No.14834811]

>>14834778

[Anonymous No.14834815]

>>14834809
Pass them back how? How do you make a pump work in zero g?

[Anonymous No.14834819]

>>14834809
They'll just launch orbital depot to orbit and refuel that.

[Anonymous No.14834824]

>>14834815
That's the thing- you cant. it's not possible. I only posit the example to demonstrate the follow of Elon Musk Space-x. if we can trick him to do the test, he will feel too smart and proud and will try it. when it fails, the whole façade will crumble and hls can cancel

[Anonymous No.14834825]

>>14834815
A novel use of inflatable tanks, but in reverse, rigged to simulate peristaltic contractions

[Anonymous No.14834828]

>>14834815
>How do you make a pump work in zero g?
Electrically with solar panels.

[Anonymous No.14834832]

>>14834373
wow the sun went down

[Anonymous No.14834833]

>>14834815
I dont know. I'm not Tony Stark

[Anonymous No.14834835]

>>14834832
Glad I wasnt the only one. These photoniggars are starting to get on my nerves

[Anonymous No.14834846]

>>14834833
Why not?!

[Anonymous No.14834848]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I2G9aGItvc

[Anonymous No.14834851]

>>14834848
> establishing rules for novel space capabilities
its over

[Anonymous No.14834853]

>>14834848
why bother with ASL
just use live subtitles by a stenographer type person
why is the government like this
now 1/3 the screen is useless because the main video is shrunk

[Anonymous No.14834854]

>few rules currently exist that they are conducted safely and sustainably
>first rules are being established
will SpaceX be hamstrung? they are talking about competition, that always sounds like pork to oldspace

[Anonymous No.14834857]

>>14834853
lel

[Anonymous No.14834859]

>>14834853
Ok so you're against blind people? fuck you

[Anonymous No.14834860]

>>14834647
Solar is literally the only viable fusion energy we currently have.

[moronfag !!zvLqeK4GQhl No.14834861]

>>14834370
btw, I know who is going to be the crew in artemis iii
anyone else want to know?
nasa hasn't announced yet

[Anonymous No.14834863]

Are these museum pieces on the sides?

[Anonymous No.14834866]

>>14834853
Humiliation ritual

[Anonymous No.14834870]

>>14834863
No, they're pathfinders for Orion and the lander.

[Anonymous No.14834877]

>>14834860
figure out how to make two suns. then four. then eight. sixteen. thirty-two. stop constraining human advancement to the energy output of one puny star you faggot

[Anonymous No.14834878]

>>14834870
looks like they raided a museum

[Anonymous No.14834880]

>>14834861
they already posted on social media

[Anonymous No.14834887]

>>14834877
Why don't we just start towing other suns towards us, light up the oort cloud with one? Space is too big anyway, the whole thing should be reduced by like 80% so interstellar travel isn't so long and gay.

[Anonymous No.14834891]

>>14834621
*blocks sunlight*
oops

[Anonymous No.14834896]

https://www.spacex.com/launches/sl4-2/
FIVE second stage burns

[Anonymous No.14834897]

>>14834809
snowballin

[Anonymous No.14834900]

>>14834896
how do they ignite the engines

[Anonymous No.14834902]

>>14834897
I was gonna say it but I didn't want to

[Anonymous No.14834905]

>>14834900
The green stuff from game of thrones. Wildfire.

[moronfag !!zvLqeK4GQhl No.14834908]

>>14834493
>>14834557
Tiles is the way to go
or a smart layer
ceramics with built in hardness changes that produce tuning forks
after some ablation, you can apply a vibration to parts of the structure and listen to the regularity of the tuning forks to know exactly when the surface is not ok
of course, any problem and it'll become a bit problem
they need tiles, but they need to max use of crevice adhesion and van der waals
they need a laser engrave and treating, or photolithography onto the tile surface, so that the combined forces of adhesion are an order of magnitude more
you're looking at a tuning system
sim how vibrations will develop modes, think cymatics
these mods are varying but producing peaks that weaken the bonds
you need to dampen this by changing the modes of the material
they need to arrange tiles in a broken-uniform pattern
3 density levels, abc
ABCCBBA etc - think of a string with the least huffman compressibility, or one that just negates some kind of FT of the shape of the ship, so it inverses the expected nodes
the varying acoustic impedance will break up the modes and stop the vibration pinch points
most of what i just said i pulled out of my ass but that's how i know it's true, gen gut feeling.
you'll see - either a phi distribution of varying weights, or an inverse of some phase space of the outline of the surface will provide a way to stop the vibrations hitting a harmonic / mode
then you will save the tiles
elon, i'm available for a job, i need coke zero caffeine free and one of those sit/stand desks right on the production floor, also a box of big league chew

[Anonymous No.14834911]

>>14834647
>10000X our current energy output by any means possible, and exponentially into the future
The limiting factor of energy is cost, not abundance. Such a large increase just doesn't seem to be achievable with manmade fusion. A >1 tritium breeding ratio is still hypothetical, even if it's achieved it's unlikely that enough of it could be produced to supply the start-up fuel for all the new plants, which would still need lithium-6 for their blankets and that's not very abundant in the Earth's crust. A 10,000X increase could be achieved with SBSP but beaming exawatts of energy down to Earth seems like a nonstarter so it would probably need to be orbiting the Sun, which of course scales to a type II civilization on the Kardashev scale. The idea that advanced civilizations would turn to using a Dyson sphere is actually understated, there just isn't enough energy elsewhere in a planetary system.
>If we didnt have 60+ years of bullshit regulation of fission maybe
Three Mile Island was only 43 years ago, at no point in the history of nuclear energy was it competitive anywhere in the world with fossil fuels, all of which are now higher in cents per kWh than renewables. Regulation is a nature scapegoat but curiously it has failed to prevent the frequent breakdown of nuclear systems or the propensity of man to do retarded shit, guaranteeing nuclear disasters at least on the local level, possibly higher with unknown modes of failure like with RBMK reactors exploding.

[moronfag !!zvLqeK4GQhl No.14834913]

>>14834908
think the fan on the macbook pros, they just spread the power out over some freq which reduced ampl
just do the same by adding some variance over the tiles in a way to limit build up of modes
OR
like on cruise ships / tankers
there's an engine rpm that you don't use as it matches the hull and causes all the women on the ship to spontaneously orgasm as the fucking ship turns into a hitachi vibe
i never saw that shit on firefly

[Anonymous No.14834917]

>>14834911
>nature scapegoat
natural*

[Anonymous No.14834920]

>>14834647
Not to mention that most of the smr work is shit tier PWRs instead of any type of molten salt reactor

[Anonymous No.14834921]

[Anonymous No.14834923]

>>14834680
Would it make sense to have separate depots for each fuel? Lox/methane

[Anonymous No.14834924]

>>14834920
PWRs are "they just werk" tier, it's undetermined if other types of reactors could achieve a much lower capital cost, the answer is probably no.

[Anonymous No.14834926]

>>14834735
>crashing the crypto market with no survivors
blessings to The Elon

[Anonymous No.14834930]

>>14834921
>concentrates area around launch pad with methane
>doesn't give a shit

[Anonymous No.14834933]

>>14834911
>all of which are now higher in cents per kWh than renewables.
now factor in storage solarfaggot

[Anonymous No.14834935]

Starlink really is an awesome thing

[Anonymous No.14834936]

[Anonymous No.14834938]

>>14834675
>he hates
>>bnuclear power (both fission and fusion)
weak bait faggot. you have to return to reddit

[Anonymous No.14834940]

>>14834933
>Solar plus batteries is now cheaper than fossil power
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.365.6449.108

Only a complete idiot cannot see that the price trend of renewables + overnight/inclement weather energy storage will easily fall below all other sources, but seeing as you just keep repeatedly posting that dumb meme with no other argument your stupidity isn't surprising.

[Anonymous No.14834943]

>>14834940
If it's so cheap, why can't Europe just build more solar panels and batteries?

[Anonymous No.14834944]

[Anonymous No.14834950]

>>14834943
They can, solar farm construction time is usually only a few months but the development phase can take years.

[Anonymous No.14834954]

>>14834943
https://www.woodmac.com/press-releases/new-european-solar-installations-to-double-over-next-3-years/

[Anonymous No.14834963]

>>14834887
Now you're thinking, anon

[Anonymous No.14834973]

>>14834824
You fucking moron nigger
Impossible to pump fluids in 0 g
What a fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.14834978]

>>14834973
dont call me idiot

[Anonymous No.14834980]

>>14834944
Copper?

[Anonymous No.14834983]

>>14834943
solar can't cut it at high latitudes and anyone saying otherwise is a fool or a shill

[Anonymous No.14834987]

https://twitter.com/PettyLupone/status/1568263924692451328

I didn't know she was a space nerd, is this true or astroturfed PR?

[moronfag !!zvLqeK4GQhl No.14834991]

>>14834772
is it cheaper to produce ethanol from air, or starches planted in ground and then produce ethanol from that? or from sugars?
someone do the fucktiddlyucking math, here's a napkin

[Anonymous No.14834994]

>>14834911
>frequent breakdown of nuclear systems
Russians being incompetent is not an argument.

[Anonymous No.14834997]

>>14834987
she's so precious omg

[Anonymous No.14834998]

>>14834991
That's wholly dependent on your electricity price.

[Anonymous No.14835005]

>>14834997
if her enthusiasm is genuine then based

Pence was also, and so was Agnew, seems like VP's tend to be into space more than presidents

[moronfag !!zvLqeK4GQhl No.14835006]

>>14834866
holy suck my dick and call me frank:
I wanted to look up these facial expressions
and i found the reedditiest reeddit there ever reeddited
> Also, describing facial expressions as "silly" could be perceived as a bit insulting. They are certainly much more exaggerated than those of most hearing people, but that doesn't make them silly.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA
hAHAHAHAHahHAaHHAHAHA
HOLY FUCK
imagine trying to die on a hill by asserting that these faces are not silly? AND FOR WHAT?
to try to convince people that you're SO FUCKING IMMENSELY MATURE AND SENSIBLE AND ERUDITE THAT YOU ARE SO FUCKING FAR ABOVE EVERYONE ELSE THAT YOU DON'T FIND THEM SILLY, OR THAT BECAUSE THAT COULD BE OFFENSIVE, IT MUST BE THAT THEY ARE NOT SILLY
fuck
i mean there is so much to unpack here
why is it illegal to drag this faggot behind a SUV for a few blocks?

[Anonymous No.14835018]

>>14835006
Populations that cull their own weak and evil have very little need for a government.

[Anonymous No.14835021]

>>14834983
>posts a graph that shows solar and wind production evens out
What are you attempting to prove with such a ridiculous argument? No one stated that Europe would be 100% solar powered, but as your own graph shows it would only require installing 2x the amount of (very cheap) panels, the inverter and battery storage could be unchanged thus the additional cost isn't that much higher.
>>14834994
That is really ignorant, nuclear plants are plagued by leaks and unscheduled maintenance, see the recent power crisis in France or this US source
>There are 61 nuclear power plant sites in the United States that are currently operating.
Records indicate 43 of these sites at one time or another have had leaks or spills that involved
tritium concentrations greater than or equal to 20,000 pCi/L
https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML1723/ML17236A511.pdf

[Anonymous No.14835030]

>>14834891
Based

[Anonymous No.14835034]

>>14835006
You vil not acknowledge ze clown-verld

[Anonymous No.14835037]

>>14834943
Batteries aren't so cheap when you use them to provide baseload power and not just lucrative peak power or on demand fast reserve. It's on the order of half a trillion for Germany to make enough batteries to store their peak consumption for one week. But that would require quite the industrial effort to build. Is someone building a 1000 gigafactories?

[Anonymous No.14835065]

>>14835037
you do this instead

[Anonymous No.14835079]

>>14834923
for what purpose?

[Anonymous No.14835116]

>>14835079
Storage of the fuels at different temperatures maybe

[Anonymous No.14835119]

>>14835021
The NRC is deliberately designed to shut down plants while allowing no new ones. All of their statistics are unreliable.

[Anonymous No.14835120]

>>14834557
nah just get something you can spray on with a hose.

[Anonymous No.14835123]

I want to grow giant pumpkins in 0G

[Anonymous No.14835129]

>>14835005
Between NASA, the Smithsonian, and having a pulse, it's one of the few things a VP even does.

[Anonymous No.14835135]

>>14835119
I'm sure the plant operators would have something to say about the NRC staging tritium leaks. Ironically most of the criticism they've received is that they're too pro-nuclear, perhaps most notably when Obama said that it was "captive of the industries that it regulates", which is a common theme in politics. They've extended the life of one plant to 80 fucking years.
>>14835037
Not to be pedantic but the term you're looking for is load-following, in order for batteries to be used as baseload it would be simultaneously charging and depleting them while renewable production is high which is nonsensical.
>store their peak consumption for one week.
A fairer estimate than what most people would make but still too high. With 50% overcapacity, a 75/25% mix of solar and wind, and only 12 hour energy storage, the US grid would be 98.7% reliable, the case for Europe is probably similar. In real life the unfulfilled demand will probably be met by hydro, geothermal, and zero carbon natural gas, instead of greatly increasing energy storage to chase the remaining percent. Okay, I'm done posting about this until next time the exact same argument breaks out again.

[Anonymous No.14835141]

>>14835135
>believing a single word Obama said about anything

[Anonymous No.14835145]

>>14835141
>A worker (named George Galatis) at the Millstone Nuclear Power Plant in Connecticut kept warning management, that the spent fuel rods were being put too quickly into the spent storage pool and that the number of rods in the pool exceeded specifications. Management ignored him, so he went directly to the NRC, which eventually admitted that it knew of both of the forbidden practices, which happened at many plants, but chose to ignore them. The whistleblower was fired and blacklisted.

[Anonymous No.14835147]

>>14834921
>Engineer: Hey Elon, the QD hoses are getting dust and bird shit in them again..
>Elon: Hmm just put some aluminum foil over the ends
Meanwhile over at LC-39B
>Engineer (they/them): We got another leak, SCRUB

[Anonymous No.14835148]

>>14835141
>>14835145
>In March 2007, undercover investigators from the Government Accountability Office set up a false company and obtained a license from the Nuclear Regulatory Commission that would have allowed them to buy the radioactive materials needed for a dirty bomb. According to the GAO report, NRC officials did not visit the company or attempt to personally interview its executives. Instead, within 28 days, the NRC mailed the license to the West Virginia postal box.

[Anonymous No.14835152]

>>14835145
>>14835148
>A 1986 Congressional report found that NRC staff had provided valuable technical assistance to the utility seeking an operating license for the controversial Seabrook plant. In the late 1980s, the NRC 'created a policy' of non-enforcement by asserting its discretion not to enforce license conditions; between September 1989 and 1994, the 'NRC has either waived or chosen not to enforce regulations at nuclear power reactors over 340 times'. Finally, critics charge that the NRC has ceded important aspects of regulatory authority to the industry's own Institute for Nuclear Power Operations (INPO), an organization formed by utilities in response to the Three Mile Island Accident

[Anonymous No.14835166]

>>14835141
solarfag is a nigger so he believes king nigger. he wants solar so his fellow niggers can loot during the inevitable blackouts

[Anonymous No.14835167]

>>14835135
Is it too high? German hydropower is around 1.5GW production around the year. Biomass 5GW. That ain't much. Maybe you will want to have lots of gas backup plants ready to cover the shortfall. Because that comes with hard guarantees. You know your capacity and stored fuel. Nature can be fickle and you're quickly looking at a crisis if there is a relatively windless period lasting weeks during the dead of winter. It ain't cheap, but must be done.

[Anonymous No.14835174]

I like solar, but its better suited for house energy self-sufficiency or sat stuff. but I live on the ecuator so im biased. i guess in places like Europe is not a good alternative at least not in big scale.

[Anonymous No.14835188]

My dog of 16 years just passed away. Should we eventually bring dogs with us to mars/colonies? I don't know if it will be fair to them.

[Anonymous No.14835197]

>>14835188
An animal dying in a space mission nowadays would possibly be a worse PR disaster than the death of a human crew.

[Anonymous No.14835202]

>>14835188
The resource costs seem prohibitive, I'm sure it will happen eventually but it doesn't sound like a good idea.

[Anonymous No.14835205]

>>14835174
Spain is nice for solar. Anything not southern latitude at winter is lol.

[Anonymous No.14835206]

>>14835188
it will not be fair to dogs because there won't be enough space for some time. other animals we should bring

[Anonymous No.14835208]

>>14834908 Look at the tread pattern on an automobile tire - set up to break up the contact frequency into a random frequency spectrum

[Anonymous No.14835215]

>>14835205
looks pretty good desu. quadruple the amount of solar farms and you're set.
they could literally do this in a year.

[Anonymous No.14835219]

>>14835206
>"other animals we should bring"

>Yoda is a space fag anon
holy shit

[Anonymous No.14835221]

Firefly is GO for Sunday attempt

[Anonymous No.14835223]

SpaceX is appealing for the billion dollar FCC deal

[Anonymous No.14835225]

>>14835223
post the pdf

[Anonymous No.14835226]

governments should buy solar panels, inverters, roof and ground mount rails, cabling etc in bulk from the best source they have access to and then sell it to their population at cost.
>>14835219
cringe esl

[Anonymous No.14835227]

[Anonymous No.14835229]

>>14835225

[Anonymous No.14835232]

>>14835227
that'll be $400,000 plus tip thank you

[Anonymous No.14835236]

>>14835229
lmao, of course

[Anonymous No.14835243]

>>14835229
wasn't this award cancelled just randomly by one person without consulting with the higher ups? That is the impression I got from some twitter thread
it also seemed very arbitrary and political

[Anonymous No.14835244]

>>14835236
Based, let them fight

[Anonymous No.14835245]

>>14835243

[Anonymous No.14835249]

>>14835245

[Anonymous No.14835251]

>>14835236
maybe you're just sweeded

[Anonymous No.14835255]

>>14835227
WE ARE GOING

[Anonymous No.14835257]

>>14835249
Retard here, qrd?
Its like suing for not using my services when there is proof they are miles better than the other options?

[Anonymous No.14835258]

>>14834815
Ullage and electric pumps.

[Anonymous No.14835261]

>>14834648
you can breed your own tritium from heavy water, and that decays into helium
you could also use some of those neutrons to burn up natural uranium

[Anonymous No.14835262]

>>14835255
>to blow up 4 billion taxpayer dollars

[Anonymous No.14835264]

>>14835255
Back to the VAB

[Anonymous No.14835269]

>>14835257
they are appealing the cancellation of their 1 bil subsidy and arguing why the cancellation was made erroneously
this is not a lawsuit I don't think, its some form of complaint to the FCC directly (not sure about the jargon lol)

[Anonymous No.14835273]

>>14835255
To the vab to scrap artemis 1

[Anonymous No.14835274]

>>14835255

[Anonymous No.14835281]

>>14834815
I googled pump in zero g and this was the second result
https://www.amazon.com/Mojo-Zero-Gravity-Penis-Black/dp/B006ZXF9K2

[Anonymous No.14835285]

>>14835262
>>14835264
>>14835273
C
CO
COP
COPE
OPE
PE
E

[Anonymous No.14835289]

>>14834940
>Only a complete idiot cannot see that the price trend of renewables + overnight/inclement weather energy storage will easily fall below all other sources

I see you haven't been made aware that to transition to renewables requires many times more minerals than known reserves that exist. Have fun finding and digging up 5x all copper ever mined since the beginning of time to make one single generation of renewables and that's just one example.

[Anonymous No.14835290]

LETS GOOOO

[Anonymous No.14835291]

So interesting how SLS is being rushed out the door and supported by all branches of government, while SpaceX is being suppressed and fucked over at every corner. Makes one think.

[Anonymous No.14835292]

>>14834815
Would this work, just have a plate at the bottom of the fuel tank pushing it out

[Anonymous No.14835293]

>>14835289
cope

[Anonymous No.14835294]

Hmmm

[Anonymous No.14835296]

>>14835289
Expendable copper? Maybe we should get Elon on this so we stop using up our finite amount of copper

[Anonymous No.14835297]

>>14835292
ullage is better.

[Anonymous No.14835301]

We need to create artificial trees to capture co2, give back o2 so we can grow big bugs to eat and carbon to use as fuel

[Anonymous No.14835303]

>>14834815
Why is everyone acting like this is impossible? Every liquid fucking rocket ever has to pump vast amounts of fuel out of its tanks. Whether it’s pressure fed, or using a turbo pump, it’s completely possible, just slap any engine on there and not combine or ignite the propellant

[Anonymous No.14835304]

>>14835297
Attached to the tanker which returns to earth? Could work desu

[Anonymous No.14835305]

>>14835297
Nta but can you please provide a diagram for this exact process you talk highly about such that this debate is silenced once and for all in favour of the best possible solution you insist upon?

[Anonymous No.14835307]

>>14835293
No rebuttal found

>>14835296
It can be recycled to some extent, sure. Now like I said go find and mine 5x the amount of copper that has ever been mined. Make sure to bear in mind that discovery is plummeting, ore quality of discoveries is worse, more work is needed is needed to process shitter ore, oh and fossil fuels for mining are getting much more expensive. Now make this mass extraction of shit ore that probably doesn't even exist the same price as it has been historically. No worries champ I'm sure the supremely skilled and competent people in charge have figured this all out.

[Anonymous No.14835309]

>>14835301
>trees
this is the dumbest meme and it was every single comment under that xprize carbon capture thing. refer to this >>14835065

[Anonymous No.14835311]

>>14835307
there is no rebuttal to delusions. you're just simply wrong.

[Anonymous No.14835312]

>>14835305
Village motors are just small rockets used to help separate stages, the acceleration they produce also helps push the propellant 'down' in a tank, in this case it would push fuel 'down' into another craft

[Anonymous No.14835314]

>>14835312
>village
Ullage kek fuck phones reee

[Anonymous No.14835319]

>>14835311
https://youtu.be/MBVmnKuBocc

Feel free to watch the man who has actually run the numbers and is in the process of holding conferences with all the big wig imbeciles running the "green transition" telling them that they are fucked. To which their response is "this isn't helpful, you are giving us problems not solutions". LOL.

[Anonymous No.14835322]

>>14835312
>village motors
Gay rocket is gay.

[Anonymous No.14835323]

>>14835304
>>14835312
you can just use the existing rcs thrusters.
you're in microgravity so the amount of acceleration needed to settle the propellant against the dome is minimal.
from there you have an electric pump do the rest of the work.

[Anonymous No.14835324]

>>14835314
It takes a ullage.

[Anonymous No.14835326]

https://youtu.be/2i_7SyaMFEU

[Anonymous No.14835329]

>>14835323
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.14835335]

>>14835323
Glory to the Stargate

[Anonymous No.14835336]

rare Falcon 1 hardware video on YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jeSEQqN1_E
588 views Oct 30, 2006

[Anonymous No.14835339]

>>14835335
we have one of these shots of starship if im not mistaken

[Anonymous No.14835340]

>>14835307
I know this is stretching facts to make a misleading argument but I really hope you’re right. If humanity is forced to mine asteroids for a material as basic as copper, used in most electronics, that would kickstart a massive leap in the amount of focus society places into space.

[sage No.14835342]

>>14835292
Thanks Doc

[Anonymous No.14835359]

>>14835340
>I know this is stretching facts to make a misleading argument

Feel free to watch the video I linked where it is all laid out. This stuff has been common knowledge in the mining industry for a while now. Turns out that a century+ of industrial mass exploitation of limited resources may lead to the decline of availability and increase in costs to produce said limited resource. Quite shocking I know. It's not just copper, that's just an example, it's fucking EVERYTHING. silver is another excellent example, if silver goes up the price of solar panels will skyrocket as it is an essential, irreplaceable (unless cheap graphene happens, which, LOL) component used in large quantities per panel. The quantities of silver talked about for mass transition to solar is hilariously impossible when you realise that COMEX and friends are lying through their teeth about the (even by their numbers, still tiny) quantity of silver they have in reserve and silver mines are quite literally not profitable at all right now, they were operating on the edge before this latest round of inflation and now it's fucked. Soon there will be a HUGE silver supply crunch and following price squeeze. This will drastically increase the price of solar panels and anything else (see; everything electronic) that uses silver in it depending on how much is in said product.

[Anonymous No.14835370]

Why are astronomers such annoying cunts?

[Anonymous No.14835371]

>>14835370
what do you mean by that

[Anonymous No.14835372]

>>14835294
NOOOO ITS NOT POLITICAL WY IS SPACEX SAYING ITS POLITICAL


Was /sfg/ right all along? This was all a political fight under Biden admin?

[Anonymous No.14835373]

>>14835290
BACK TO THE VAB

[Anonymous No.14835381]

>>14835372
>Was /sfg/ right all along
/sfg/ is never right about anything.

[Anonymous No.14835382]

>>14835381
Yes it is, and you clearly don't like it.

[Anonymous No.14835383]

>>14835381
Cope

[Anonymous No.14835385]

>>14834679
You're a fucking retard, 12.3 year half life is eons when you're considering a grid power supply reactor that breeds its tritium.

[Anonymous No.14835386]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1568314201873186817

[Anonymous No.14835397]

>>14834980
Yes nearly every engine uses a copper jacket to provide maximum heat conduction rates between hot gas and cold coolant loop. Otherwise the nozzle throat would overheat.

[Anonymous No.14835400]

>>14835188
I’m sorry, anon. I think dogs could be happy in large colonies, especially if we get pic related to work, but to start with it’s probably not fair. Maybe cats or other animals more adapted to living in houses.

[Anonymous No.14835405]

>>14835289
just use aluminum instead of copper

[Anonymous No.14835410]

>>14835359
I'm not going to look into any sources anyone posts in this argument, I'm here purely to tell you that you sound like a fucking schizo and it's hurting your argument. Sounding schizo makes people dislike you and disagree even if you can point to true facts.

[Anonymous No.14835413]

>>14835372
It always has been political. SLS would not exist in the first place but for political forces, HLS Starship would not have been selected but for NASA being between admins and the temp admin rushing the selection through (which lest we forget absolutely blindsided national team & BO so hard they cried on stream and had to throw out their celebratory laser etched novelty drinking glasses).

[Anonymous No.14835418]

EARTHERS (derogatory)

[Anonymous No.14835419]

>>14835405
Properties of copper are irreplaceable. Again, it's not just copper.

>>14835410
Ok, no refutations, won't look at valid sources, just calls me schizo. Do you seriously believe there is an infinite amount of easily obtainable high quality metal in the ground?

[Anonymous No.14835423]

>>14835312
JSC has got to put a full starship
stack next to the Saturn V at some point

[Anonymous No.14835425]

>>14835405
Anon, there is a reason people wire their houses with Copper and not Aluminium.

[Anonymous No.14835426]

>>14835400
We would need to genetically modify cats' reaction to freefall to make them spaceworthy. Right now it gives them a DANGER DANGER YOU ARE FALLING signal and they freak out trying to orient themselves to a ground that isn't there.

[Anonymous No.14835428]

>>14835291
SLS is just pork for the MIC, but right now they are cashing big time in ukr, so they will give zero fucks about space in the next 2 years.

Meaning if SLS needs additional budget for fixing stuff it might get cancelled instead.

Starshit wont be greenlighted by the gub until SLS flights first. And that might be months.

[Anonymous No.14835439]

>>14835336
COOL

[Anonymous No.14835441]

Seen some negative and semi-negative pieces in the news about SLS recently. Makes me wonder if they are predictive programming the plebs for its outright cancellation, or at least no more being ordered after they send the first nigger and w*man up on it.

[Anonymous No.14835451]

>>14835441
It's more that SLS was finally able to break into the public awareness and negative articles are more favored by The Algorithm than positive ones.

[Anonymous No.14835452]

>>14835441

[Anonymous No.14835456]

>>14835413
>blindsided national team & BO so hard they cried on stream and had to throw out their celebratory laser etched novelty drinking glasses
LOL i forgot about those fucking glasses. made me sick when they showed those off, as if they had some inside knowledge that they'd won. God bless Steve Jurczyk and Kathy Lueders. I sure wish someone had recorded that stream though. Allegedly anon experienced it first hand

[Anonymous No.14835458]

>>14835426
They would adapt over time just like mice

[Anonymous No.14835459]

>>14835452
what drives people yo solve a captcha and upload a picture that says nothing but a stale meme, is the (You)s? Are they that adictive?

[Anonymous No.14835463]

Bros....

[Anonymous No.14835466]

>>14835459
there is no captcha if you post a lot in a short time

[Anonymous No.14835467]

>>14835463
FEET

[Anonymous No.14835471]

>>14835459
schizo mad

[Anonymous No.14835473]

>>14835463
Why are Jared's ear so big
He looks like a gnome

[Anonymous No.14835478]

>>14835372
Retards here dont like to admit it but more often than not lately /sgf/, /pol/ and schizos were right. and they still reply with the infamous >take meds, it their pathetic attempt to derail the topic. We are in clown world now, just try to not fall to the obvious poison the well strat.

[Anonymous No.14835479]

>>14835463
That whole program is going to have sovl

[Anonymous No.14835482]

>>14835463
Yup. She's busty too

[Anonymous No.14835485]

>>14835324
It takes an ullage to raise an orbit.

[Anonymous No.14835486]

>>14834634
Tritium and Deuterium, anything better requires far more advanced reactors which nobody wants built because those wont make shekels

[Anonymous No.14835487]

>>14835458
If i were an astronaut a mice would be my choice for a pet. They are fairly smart and small. Too bad they dont live that much.

[Anonymous No.14835491]

>>14835487
you can eat them after they pass away too, so it isnt all for nothing

[Anonymous No.14835492]

>>14835319
>>14835359
>muh hydrogen boats and trucks and trains
retarded
>50/50 split between solar and wind
retarded
>90/10 split between pv and ... wait for it ... SOLAR THERMAL
retarded
>4 weeks of storage buffer must be all stationary battery packs
>this constitutes literally 95% of your required copper projections, 97% lithium, 95% cobalt, 98% graphite, 100% vanadium
>let's not reexamine our assumptions
>what is making some more of that hydrogen you're shilling so hard as buffer?
>what is making natural gas as buffer and reusing all the gas infrastructure in place?
>b-but european commission xyz and elon hecking musk said they're using batteries
It doesn't matter, the market decides what is used.
He's huffing his own farts like crazy. Purely motivated reasoning, just like you.
It's time to kill yourself, especially given that the future is doomed.
Look it's gonna be hard to cope with declining fossil production. But that is what's happening and you can't change it.
Some people exaggerate the problems and then kvetch about it.
Others build the technology to solve them.
Be the latter kind.

[Anonymous No.14835496]

>>14835487
Mice would be an interesting option because they reproduce quickly, so you could breed them to be optimal for a space environment in short time.

[Anonymous No.14835503]

>>14835487
>>14835496
How would you deal with their shit and piss on 0g? Small diapers?

[Anonymous No.14835507]

>>14835458
so let me guess they sent them up with a canister of carbon monoxide and then dumped that in the mouse cage after finishing their experiment?

[Anonymous No.14835509]

>>14835492
>>what is making natural gas as buffer and reusing all the gas infrastructure in place?
The greenies don't count that. He's addressing their proposals as they are presented.

[Anonymous No.14835511]

>>14835503
I was thinking more about mice on the Moon or Mars.

[Anonymous No.14835513]

I would like turtles too, they are small, eat vegetables for the most part, and their lifespan is huge compared to rats.

[Anonymous No.14835515]

>>14835509
>The greenies don't count that. He's addressing their proposals as they are presented.
refer to my post. it doesn't matter.
the most sensible solution will attain market dominance.
nothing ever happens as a government project, including saving civilization from collapse.
you're all us versus them. the >greenies need to be defeated. it's their fault if things go wrong.
in reality it's man versus nature. technology versus entropy. go out and build the best thing you can, that's all that matters.

[Anonymous No.14835518]

>>14835492
>muh hydrogen boats and trucks and trains
>retarded

No, the reasoning is laid out very clearly in terms of energy density, weight and energy required for hydrogen production. Saying "retarded" with no counterpoint is not an argument.

>50/50 split between solar and wind
>retarded

This is direct from the people pushing this agenda and how they want to proceed. If you want to up the solar quotient I suppose we can, assuming you can continue to afford the massively rising cost of silver/other feedstocks for the panels and somehow not pass it onto the consumer? Saying "retarded" with no counterpoint is not an argument

>90/10 split between pv and ... wait for it ... SOLAR THERMAL
>retarded

See above

>>what is making some more of that hydrogen you're shilling so hard as buffer?

Well, if you actually watched it and didn't just click through you would know the reasoning is because hydrogen is very inefficient energy wise to produce, hence only being used for needed applications where the weight of batteries is too heavy. So if again, you want to up the input power required by a massive scale, you can, assuming you can find the requisite materials to create the energy production equipment (you can't, at least not at a cost the market will bear)

>what is making natural gas as buffer and reusing all the gas infrastructure in place?

See above

>It doesn't matter, the market decides what is used.

Except it doesn't because the European Commission is one of the primary entities among others behind pushing this agenda, funding it at the state level and deciding who gets to do what projects. Also how will the free market cope with rising mineral prices? The consumer can barely afford this shit as it is RIGHT NOW and the government is a mere few percentage points away from being unable to service it's debts, now bump up the cost of feedstocks even a measly 10% and see how the market takes it lol.

>Ad hominems and nonsense

Yep as expected

[Anonymous No.14835521]

>>14835482
he is just doing this to see cute blondes in zero g?

[Anonymous No.14835522]

>>14835515
>you're all us versus them. the >greenies need to be defeated. it's their fault if things go wrong.
This is true though. They sabotage any attempt to circumvent their preferred solutions, and so proving their solutions will not work is necessary. Go be a faggot somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.14835528]

>>14834530
It's really funny reading the (what are obviously autogenerated) articles on the stock.

https://stocksregister.com/2022/09/02/astra-space-inc-astr-is-worth-looking-despite-93-99-drop-from-high/

>Analysts are in estimates of $0 per share for company’s earnings in the current quarter and are expecting its annual EPS growth moving up to -$0.78 for 2022 with estimates of that growing to -$0.51 in next year.

>when we review ASTR stock’s current outlook then short term indicators are assigning it an average of 100% Sell, while medium term indicators are categorizing the stock at an average of 100% Sell. Long term indicators are suggesting an average of 100% Sell for it.

>In predicting price targets of as low as $0.70 and as high as $0.70, analysts are in agreement on assigning the stock over the next 12 months average price target of $0.70. Stock’s current price level is 14.63% above from estimated low price target while it is 14.63% below the estimated high; and even if the ASTR’s share succeeded to reach the median price of $0.70, then the outlook of 14.63% could come to the excitement of the investors.

[Anonymous No.14835530]

>>14835515
>the most sensible solution will attain market dominance

Which is?

[Anonymous No.14835534]

>>14835528
The worst part is the stock price is essentially fake since all of the "class B" (10 votes per share) stock is with insiders, as is most of the regular "class A" stock. The whole public listing was functionally equivalent to a pump and dump.

[Anonymous No.14835545]

>>14835518
>No, the reasoning is laid out very clearly in terms of energy density, weight and energy required for hydrogen production. Saying "retarded" with no counterpoint is not an argument.
the reasoning is entirely insufficient for the conclusion
>This is direct from the people pushing this agenda and how they want to proceed. If you want to up the solar quotient I suppose we can, assuming you can continue to afford the massively rising cost of silver/other feedstocks for the panels and somehow not pass it onto the consumer? Saying "retarded" with no counterpoint is not an argument
there is no problem with affording *massively* rising costs given the argument made further down that post and further down this post
>See above
it's retarded
>Well, if you actually watched it and didn't just click through you would know the reasoning is because hydrogen is very inefficient energy wise to produce, hence only being used for needed applications where the weight of batteries is too heavy. So if again, you want to up the input power required by a massive scale, you can, assuming you can find the requisite materials to create the energy production equipment (you can't, at least not at a cost the market will bear)
this is not an argument. he is proposing making 396 times the amount of batteries just for stationary storage compared to EVs.
electrolysis optionally followed by sabatier is what, 30% energy efficient? meaning (4 weeks / year) * 3.33 = 25% more energy production and TWO ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE less material consumption than his proposed battery storage.
>european union
nothing ever gets done as a government project. it'll be like ITER. mineral prices won't rise to the degree you suppose because your foundational argument is flawed, see above.
>>ad hominems
faggot, reddit tranny. space your post correctly. also retard

[Anonymous No.14835547]

>>14835322
powered by gay fuel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJF1RO7GhCM

[Anonymous No.14835549]

Even if an ayyyy handed you a working fusion reactor for your starship or mars colony or whatever, wouldn’t it still cost a lot of energy to create the fuel in the first place? Seems bad for the same reason hydrogen isn’t bad. Unless there’s a fuel out there you can use that that’s ready-to-go like water or something

[Anonymous No.14835558]

>>14835545
i'm sorry i made a mistake too. he's proposing making 30 times the amount of stationary storage compared to EVs. it's still making 25% more production vs making 30 times more batteries.
go figure

[Anonymous No.14835561]

> solarfag having a stroke
kek

[Anonymous No.14835563]

i love rockets!

[Anonymous No.14835564]

>>14835521
>blondes
?

[Anonymous No.14835565]

>>14835549
*hydrogen is bad
typo

[Anonymous No.14835567]

>>14835549
What you are talking about is the EROI curve, pic related. Guess where about a green energy and even nuclear sits on this graph. Civilisation is going to be in for a real fucking bad time when you can no longer pump free energy liquid from the ground for the total cost of a pump and transport.

[Anonymous No.14835568]

>>14835518
> Except it doesn't because the European Commission is one of the primary entities among others behind pushing this agenda, funding it at the state level and deciding who gets to do what projects. Also how will the free market cope with rising mineral prices? The consumer can barely afford this shit as it is RIGHT NOW and the government is a mere few percentage points away from being unable to service it's debts, now bump up the cost of feedstocks even a measly 10% and see how the market takes it lol.

The EU can’t get anything done. See the current energy crisis.
The problem is doing things affordably and governments are insanely inefficient. If the price of whatever raises by 10% then the government will have the exact same problem as the free market, the cost of doing the thing will increase. Maybe the price for which the government will sell it won’t increase but the cost difference will come from somewhere else (taxes that will cripple even more the already failing EU economy).
Go on, import more criminals, destroy the economy and stifle innovation but make sure to stay on that piece of shit land when it all crashes down.
You won’t be able to afford going to mars so that won’t be a problem.

[Anonymous No.14835569]

Multi launch aesthetics

[Anonymous No.14835572]

/sng/ - solar nuclear general. i missed you.

[Anonymous No.14835573]

>>14835568
>The EU can’t get anything done. See the current energy crisis.
The problem is doing things affordably and governments are insanely inefficient. If the price of whatever raises by 10% then the government will have the exact same problem as the free market, the cost of doing the thing will increase. Maybe the price for which the government will sell it won’t increase but the cost difference will come from somewhere else (taxes that will cripple even more the already failing EU economy).
Go on, import more criminals, destroy the economy and stifle innovation but make sure to stay on that piece of shit land when it all crashes down.
You won’t be able to afford going to mars so that won’t be a problem.

This wall of text applies to every government, hate to break it to you buddy

[Anonymous No.14835582]

hey will you draw me artemis moonbase-chan?

[Anonymous No.14835583]

>>14835573
That’s true. Fortunately I’m not the one defending that governments should decide what technology prevails.

[Anonymous No.14835584]

>>14835545
Even 30x less battery creation, being just for EVs would be the entire lithium and other battery rare metal reserves of the ENTIRE PLANET. Oh and you don't like Hydrogen for long and heavy freight for some reason despite the specifics being clearly laid out so I guess now you don't have enough batteries for those since all the metals were used for EVs. So let's see, you proposal is no/zero wind, basically all solar production. Let's double amount of solar panels to account for no wind and add an extra 25% on that for Hydrogen generation (I note you failed to mention the losses in turning the Hydrogen back into electricity). The silver required for the creation of those panels is approximately 12 BILLION OUNCES. D you know how much COMEX has in reserve? All of like 150m ounces (likely actually much, less than this), do you know what happens when even the paltry amount in COMEX disappears off the market? This is the silver schizo stackers wet dream and would send the price of silver skyrocketing to hundreds if not potentially thousands of dollars an ounce, now go look how much silver content is in each panel. You talk about not understanding economics yet you clearly do not. This is just ONE of the pieces involved in the construction of a solar panel, let alone all the rare earth and other shit needed for doping silicon, the supply situation of which is worse than silver. Oh and then there is the silicon itself, despite being one of the most common elements on earth it's actually really fucking hard to find cost effective sources of it, currently china is busy dredging it out of the sea near pacific islands, causing them to subside and will soon be uninhabitable.

[Anonymous No.14835585]

>>14835583
You are strawmanning me, I'm not defending them, just saying that they are in positions of power to decide who is allowed to do what and the direction of the green energy agenda.

[Anonymous No.14835587]

>>14835584
This reads like a chapter of diary of a wimpy kid with every other sentence having a capitalized word. Not that I actually read the contents of it, but the words look that way

[Anonymous No.14835588]

>>14835587
Insults are not arguments

[Anonymous No.14835589]

>>14835549
>>14835567
A fusion economy only has a bad EROI to bootstrap. Once a reactor is running you can electrolyze your own heavy water with it and power multiple reactors.

[Anonymous No.14835590]

If an energy source can't power a train or a submarine, it's shit and shouldn't be considered in industrial societies.

[Anonymous No.14835593]

>>14835584
there is enough silver. there is enough lithium. youre coping.

[Anonymous No.14835595]

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/whitest-kids-u-know-mars-movie-trevor-moore-1235365619/
>Cult sketch group Whitest Kids U’ Know has had countless collaborations, most notably a five-season run of their eponymous IFC series. Their most recently announced project is an animated film named “Mars,” which was in development before the 2021 death of member Trevor Moore.
>"It’s about a couple of billionaires’ race to put a city on Mars,” he said. “That’s the kind of line that we like to hit, where it’s like, alright, we’re not talking about Elon Musk, we’re not talking about [Richard] Branson or [Jeff] Bezos or any of these guys, but we’re going to talk about this. What’s happening in society right now is like all these rich guys are about to start colonizing the moon because we think that’s still going to be an issue 20 years from now. It’s not going to age itself out quickly."
Will it be kino?

[Anonymous No.14835597]

>>14835589
Is this true?

[Anonymous No.14835598]

>>14835595
>an issue
post this on reddit instead

[Anonymous No.14835599]

>>14835597
Yes. Collecting deuterium and tritium from the shielding/coolant pool of a nuclear reactor is much cheaper than collecting it from seawater because the concentration is so much higher. Initial development, initial collection of deuterium to run it, and spinup of mass production are the bad-EROI parts, and that's all front loaded.

[Anonymous No.14835600]

>>14835593
Sorry but I'm pretty sure the man who is a geological surveyor who's full time job it is to crunch these numbers knows more than you. Even if there is "enough", it's not relevant because the price of the materials will still go through the roof.

[Anonymous No.14835601]

>>14835595
Pretty gross. they knew they could only pull this shit after they got rid of Trevor, they knew he loved spaceflight. sick fucking jews

[Anonymous No.14835602]

>>14835595
It's insulting that they always call it a race between billionaires when Elon seems to be the only one participating.

[Anonymous No.14835604]

>>14835599
>you will totally be allowed to produce nuclear materials in your own reactors hehe

Ok buddy, why not set up a couple breeder reactors while you are at it

[Anonymous No.14835605]

>>14835602
The judenpresse do this all the time.
>[thing] is beneficial
>but we can't tell people that
>let's throw in coverage of [vaguely similar bad thing] and smear [thing] by category association

[Anonymous No.14835606]

>>14835597
theoretically
the efficiency of the process is a question mark though

[Anonymous No.14835609]

>>14835589
Will it breed enough tritium to sustain itself? Seems doubtful desu.

[Anonymous No.14835610]

>>14835599
Okay then disregard my original schizo post. I’m not the solarfag by the way, also I was coincidentally thinking about this problem this morning. Ive been thinking a lot about muons and how they could catalyze a reactor at room temperature. Why did God create muons but then only make them stable for a fraction of a fraction of a second

[Anonymous No.14835611]

>>14835602
>>14835605
kinda like that article the other day calling spacex a space tourism company lol

[Anonymous No.14835612]

>>14835595
>Will it be kino?
not without Trevor

[Anonymous No.14835613]

>>14835600
the man who is a geological surveyor and oopsie whoopsie invalidated his calculations by 30x.
the man who also doesn't understand technology. doesn't realize there is gonna be a transient and then the next person comes along and does fracking for lithium instead of sieving it out of puddles.
s-curves stacked on top of each other. we are not slowing down ever. no matter the concern kvetching.

[Anonymous No.14835614]

>>14835604
>>you will totally be allowed to produce nuclear materials in your own reactors hehe
Yes? That's literally Zap Energy's plan and DoE seems to be on board with it.

[Anonymous No.14835616]

>>14835613
>the man who is a geological surveyor and oopsie whoopsie invalidated his calculations by 30x

The calculations are per what the greenfags are wanting and are accurate, you simply decided that everything will be hydrogen instead, which is funny since being a poster on /sfg/ you should know hydrogen is SHIT.

>doesn't realize there is gonna be a transient and then the next person comes along and does fracking for lithium instead of sieving it out of puddles.

Do you know what the word "reserves" means? Shit you don't even understand basic supply and demand economics.

[Anonymous No.14835618]

>>14835598
can you expand on that?

[Anonymous No.14835622]

>>14835616
not gonna respond to your kvetching any more.
go hodl silver and copper or whatever and hide in your basement from the imminent collapse.

[Anonymous No.14835623]

>>14835614
>but muh vaporware company with no permits

Ok?

[Anonymous No.14835625]

>>14835569
who is launching those?

[Anonymous No.14835626]

>>14835622
Ok bye faggot, consider yourself intellectually bested like the retard you are.

[Anonymous No.14835628]

>Hello kids!
>It's me, Scrab!
>SLS's official mascot!
>Let's go have a very educative and fun mission with our favorite senator, where we will learn how to count from 1 to 40 billion!

[Anonymous No.14835629]

>>14835585
I mean they can try, my point is that there is no around supply and demand and energy costs. Trying to strongman your way around those basic facts is why Europe is declining and will keep doing so.

[Anonymous No.14835633]

Night shot

[Anonymous No.14835640]

is anything ever gonna happen?

[Anonymous No.14835644]

>>14835640
Sls will rtvab and be disassembled. Launched some time in spring 2023

The faa will hold back starship until summer 2023.

[Anonymous No.14835645]

Would starship already be flying if they had located their factory in Arkansas and had plenty of room to run multiple tests at once ? And could hire people that spoke English?

[Anonymous No.14835647]

>>14835645
no

[Anonymous No.14835649]

>>14835645
You have actual autism—and the bad kind too

[Anonymous No.14835650]

>>14835645
Almost certainly yes

[Anonymous No.14835651]

>>14834743
they're called goyim for a reason

[Anonymous No.14835652]

>>14835645
No, Biden admin does not want Starship to be flying anytime soon.

[Anonymous No.14835653]

biden minecraft admin

[Anonymous No.14835656]

>>14835645
>Arkansas
i thought the reason spacex picked boca chica is because it's close to the coast, and a town

[Anonymous No.14835658]

>>14835597
No, most heavy water is made via the Girdler sulfide process instead of water electrolysis due to cost reasons, fusion energy would make electrolysis more expensive.
>>14835599
>>14835609
>Will it(heavy water blankets) breed enough tritium to sustain itself?
Zapfag should post a source or admit that it isn't possible.
>Collecting deuterium and tritium from the shielding/coolant pool of a nuclear reactor is much cheaper than collecting it from seawater because the concentration is so much higher.
lmao, tritium produced this way is $30,000 per gram and there isn't enough of it to supply the start-up fuel for other reactors after the large tokamaks like ITER use most of the world's reserves, both options are ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.14835659]

>>14835656
What advantage does close to the coast bring you other than hurricanes and environmentalists?

[Anonymous No.14835660]

There's only one place in America fit to launch our future

[Anonymous No.14835661]

For how long and how many times Falcon 9 failed before it started having success? And what can we expect from Starship?

[Anonymous No.14835662]

nothing ever happens
it’s all so tiresome

[Anonymous No.14835663]

>>14835662
since when are we launchin cute boys to space????

[Anonymous No.14835664]

>>14834944
How do they deal with the heat getting into the space between the tiles?

[Anonymous No.14835665]

>>14835644
If it doesn't hit this next launch attempt disassembly is a serious possibility, but it won't be launching in spring 2023. They're already concerned about the state of the core stage given the number of roll-outs its been though, there's an indeterminate amount of hydrogen embitterment damage, and if they find any issues with the boosters when they get destacked they'll have to toss the whole batch and wait to get the next set from Northrup. Honestly, if they do scrub the next launch it might be more beneficial to just forget about actually flying the first vehicle and wet dress the hell out of it until they can get through the prelaunch process without any issues.

[Anonymous No.14835668]

>>14835660
The Range. Home. Where it's right.

[Anonymous No.14835671]

>>14835664
the plasma doesnt go in there

[Anonymous No.14835675]

>>14835665
>concerned about the state of the core stage given the number of roll-outs
the rollouts cant possibly be that bad for it

[Anonymous No.14835677]

>>14835289
Take your medication, the amount of copper in solar panels is negligible, which is why thieves would rather break into your shitty rundown crack house to gain access to the water pipes than break into a solar farm, most of which have almost no security and are located in isolated areas.

[Anonymous No.14835678]

>>14835675
They can only put fuel into it and back out of it a total of like 16 times.

[Anonymous No.14835681]

>>14835675
We were all asking each other how many more times the core can get tanked before the LH2 shatters it and some talking head at NASA just came out and said that it was only certified for two more round trips to the VAB and back because they were worried about wear and mechanical damage.

[Anonymous No.14835682]

>>14835410
Again, take your medication and/or stop shilling your precious metal bags.

[Anonymous No.14835683]

>>14835463 i wish i cum inside her now

[Anonymous No.14835687]

>>14835683
which one?

[Anonymous No.14835688]

>>14835289
Asteroid mine

[Anonymous No.14835690]

>>14835687 curvey mammy

[Anonymous No.14835693]

>>14835682
Meant to reply to the other guy.

[Anonymous No.14835696]

>>14835687
Jared's ears

[Anonymous No.14835698]

>>14835688
For cheaper than you can mine even the worst, most crap deposits on earth? Er, no

[Anonymous No.14835704]

>>14835682
Now extrapolate from the current photovoltaic demand of relatively fuckall to, you know, replacing every power plant on the whole fucking planet with them.

[Anonymous No.14835707]

>>14834720
I think there was a settlement. Can't remember tho.

[Anonymous No.14835711]

>>14835698
Er, your retard

[Anonymous No.14835713]

>>14835711
Even at the cheapest starship price, please tell me how you plan to mine, refine and bring back, let's say Copper which has a current market price of 8/kg for cheaper. You are the retard.

[Anonymous No.14835721]

How many more "accidental" fires must we put up with before this maniac is stopped?

[Anonymous No.14835726]

>>14835704
There is over a TW of solar capacity, global electricity capacity is ~7 TW, accounting for lower capacity factor still doesn't make a case for extraordinary demand for silver. The amount of silver used per cell has actually been decreasing from 400 mg in 2007 to 130 mg in 2016. The only people who envision a great surge in silver demand from this are schizophrenic and it could double or triple in price but still contribute little to the cost of pv.

[Anonymous No.14835740]

>>14835726
>global electricity capacity is ~7 TW,

Did you miss the part where it is replacing all fossil fuels for cars, boats, aeroplanes as well as industrial use of fossil fuels? It's not just the electrical grid you stupid nigger, in fact that's by far the smallest component. Oh and you have to replace them every 20 or so years so have fun either recycling micro amounts out of the gorillions of panels or go hunting for those rare metals all over again every 20 years.

[Anonymous No.14835748]

Space fellas, listen to this banger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D6Tuaismzo

[Anonymous No.14835750]

>>14835656
arkansasautist is a recurring /sci/tzo here, pls ignore

[Anonymous No.14835758]

So...are you gonna make me ask? Ugh...ok...why doesnt NASA just let SpaceX launch astronaut on Dragon and dock HLS in LEO?

[Anonymous No.14835760]

>>14835681
Which is stronger? One orange rocket or one tiny boi?

[Anonymous No.14835763]

You cant just strap 3 Deltas together and that makes the 4 Heavy

[Anonymous No.14835764]

>>14835758
Spoiler, the animorphs trap David in rat morph and abandon him on a rocky outcropping off the shore of the ocean.

[Anonymous No.14835766]

>>14835740
>you have to replace them every 20 years
The average expected lifespan for a solar farm in the US is 33 years and it keeps increase. I love how easily retards prove they have no idea what they're talking about.
>Did you miss the part where it is replacing all fossil fuels for cars, boats, aeroplanes as well as industrial use of fossil fuels?
I ignored it because even 100 TW of solar capacity wouldn't put much of a dent in silver reserves. 20 years ago you would have been on the internet shilling about peak oil and converting your vehicle to run on alternative fuels.
>so have fun either recycling micro amounts
Okay, that will eventually be fully automated, as by law panels have to be recycled in many places. For example EU regulations require 80% recycling of the materials in PV.

[Anonymous No.14835769]

>>14835764
Why? Does David ever rescued? Who are the Animorphs? Please tell

[Anonymous No.14835771]

>>14835764
That David dude sucked. I'm glad aliens ate his parent's brains.

[Anonymous No.14835784]

>>14835763
You actually can't. One of the big reasons that the Delta IV was so damn expensive was that it was a common core design with six different models of core.

[Anonymous No.14835788]

>>14835784
Nta but I didn’t know this? SIX different cores? For what? Burning money??

[Anonymous No.14835789]

>>14835740
Also the use of silver in PV can be eliminated entirely through rear contact solar cells which can get away with using a less conductive material since blocking light isn't a concern.

[Anonymous No.14835805]

Asteroids will be returned to space. We don't need em.

[Anonymous No.14835806]

>>14835769
Once, but it goes poorly for him.
>>14835771
He really was a little faggot in the end, fuck that guy. He tried to kill Tobias, the prick.

[Anonymous No.14835814]

Another VP left Astra today.

[Anonymous No.14835837]

>>14835814
Based pump and dump enthusiasts

[Anonymous No.14835843]

>>14835814
Good.

[Anonymous No.14835856]

>>14835814
bro just give astra one more chance
they'll get it on the next one

[Anonymous No.14835860]

>>14835788
First, the top of the rocket had issues. A Delta IV would either be carrying a four or five meter Delta Cryogenic Upper Stage. Normally you’d just design the interstage as a kit that could be popped onto the top of a completed booster at the end of fabrication, but for whatever reason the structural differences started well south of the interstage and had to be baked into the rocket early in assembly. That’s two variations.

Then there was the Heavy core. There were always going to be significant differences between the Delta IV Medium and the Delta IV Heavy since the heavy had to deal with way more thrust, as well as having mounts for a pair of CBCs instead of 2-4 GEM-60s. But there was still the issue with the upper stages connections, so one design of Heavy core turned into two. I think all of the Delta IV Heavies flew with 5m upper stages, but McDonnell/Boeing/ULA had to keep the option of 4m Heavies alive just in case it was needed. That’s four common core designs.

Then there were the boosters. Normally this would have just been one more model of common core as well, but McDonnell's brainworms had clearly entered the terminal phase because they completely fucked up the way the boosters linked with the GSE. Instead of having the fueling lines on the outward facing side of the rocket they were all on the tower facing side, putting them on the right side for one booster and the left for the other and leaving the boosters with lots of mirrored internal plumbing.

So: 4m medium core, 5m medium core, 4m heavy core, 5m heavy core, left side booster, right side booster. There were a lot of systems that the various models shared but they were all different enough from each other that it wiped out the savings you’d expect from a true modular design.

[Anonymous No.14835864]

>>14835758
This series must have spawned a whole generation of furries.
>bro what if I turned into a rat ahahaha

[Anonymous No.14835867]

>>14835856
Is it worth the risk? What about Tropics 2?

[Anonymous No.14835868]

>>14835860
thanks for the detailed post! As long as i’ve been into space flight I would think I would have known this by now but I guess there’s always something new to learn

[Anonymous No.14835875]

>>14834619
In a movie after this speech is given the crowd stands and applauds

[Anonymous No.14835880]

Hey guys fuckin rockets out babe

[Anonymous No.14835883]

>>14835545
Based.

[Anonymous No.14835887]

>>14834683
lol

[Anonymous No.14835889]

>>14835584
seethe faggot

[Anonymous No.14835892]

>>14835889
You will live in the pod, eat the bugs, not be able to afford to buy or run an Electric Car and you will not be happy

[Anonymous No.14835897]

>>14835595
Anything disparaging of space aspirations immediately gets qualified for hatecrimes in my book

[Anonymous No.14835901]

>>14835897
A higher crime than murder or even treason. It should unironically be legal to summarily execute bucket crabs.

[Anonymous No.14835908]

>>14835856
The flag made me lol

[Anonymous No.14835910]

>>14835901
extremely based

[Anonymous No.14835931]

>>14835897
how do we know if it is anti-space? maybe they like elon :)

[Anonymous No.14835946]

>>14835931
Incredibly low likelihood but it'll be nice if so

[Anonymous No.14836001]

>>14835595
Naw it'll be another "billionaires in space bad" like Love Death Robots and a dozen other comedies
If you had to write a comedy with the same topic, what would it be about? Give your pitch
Mine would be about the first NASA landing on Mars, which takes place 10 years after SpaceX has set up a base there
The goal of the NASA characters is to make sure the base is following protocols and regulations, only to find that basically the complete opposite is happening, nothing outright dangerous, but something a government type wouldn't approve of like betting on employee low G boxing matches and a bunch of guys trying to begin terraforming mars by putting a bunch of human shit, organic refuse, and seeds in an empty cargo starship, much to the horror of the NASA crew
There'll be a character whos a SpaceX employee that actively goes out of his way to make the NASA crew uncomfortable, sorta like this Sam Hyde character: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dctsAsvRLA0
Another character I would want is a Libertarian type guy who wants to nuke earth, and who actively clashes with the NASA crew for some good conflict, sorta like Ron Swanson from Parks and Rec, mediocre show, but S tier character: https://youtu.be/oQwe6fV-teo?t=20
Also of the 4 NASA crew there, there's 1 black guy, who always wears an EVA suit that matches his skin tone, while all the other astronauts wear normal white ones and this is never addressed whatsoever

[Anonymous No.14836008]

>>14836001
During a video conference between the bases, all 4 NASA crew are crammed into their single room, trying to keep the meeting focused while one spacex guy halfheartedly humors them. In the background of his camera, there's a ping pong game in progress.

[Anonymous No.14836020]

>>14835595
Commies dont think like us, they put a lot of weight on "being on right side of history". The first mars colonies being funded by private sector biyyonays is of no conequence to us. But for them its a big deal.

[Anonymous No.14836035]

>>14836020
What

[Anonymous No.14836042]

>>14836035
Commies wake up seething everyday because of starship

[Anonymous No.14836053]

>>14836001
Not gonna lie, I'd enjoy a comedy bashing bureaucrats.
Specially if it's one bashing the "diversity" type of bureaucracy.

[Anonymous No.14836059]

>>14836001
lmfao thanks for this anon. would make a great show

[Anonymous No.14836066]

>>14835867
LV0011 and LV0012 will never fly. The TROPICS contract was canceled. Last I heard they were going to be used for troubleshooting and then as literal museum pieces.

[Anonymous No.14836115]

shh, /sfg/ is sleeping...

[Anonymous No.14836116]

>>14836066
>The TROPICS contract was canceled
So NASA won't pay them the $7.95 million dollar award?

[Anonymous No.14836128]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_proper_names_of_exoplanets
One day we will rule each and every one of them

[Anonymous No.14836130]

>>14836001
give this man a million dollars

[Anonymous No.14836143]

https://www.sciencealert.com/astronomers-have-detected-strange-signals-coming-from-a-star-11-light-years-away
6 months after this incident, we discovered a possibly habitable planet around this star
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_128_b

[Anonymous No.14836146]

Do you think Beñoz ever just seethes about "Jeff who?"

[Anonymous No.14836147]

>>14836143
Is that star on the Webb observation schedule?

[Anonymous No.14836156]

Been reading about the Wow signal and various follow up experiments. A lot of talk about human made RF interference. I am having a lot of second thoughts about Starlink..

[Anonymous No.14836181]

>>14835626
if some metal supply gets crunched, some other will inevitably be used as a substitute or new innovations made
assuming we will just stop is retarded

[Anonymous No.14836187]

>>14836147
I don't know how to check

[Anonymous No.14836189]

>Age 45
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_S._Sheppard
I'll never reach his power level

[Anonymous No.14836214]

>>14836156
Didn't know much about the wow signal but this made me kek when I looked it up

>METI president Douglas Vakoch told Die Welt that any putative SETI signal detections must be replicated for confirmation, and the lack of such replication for the Wow! signal means it has little credibility
>Heh, unless you can replicate that alien communication from Sagittarius it's not alien, checkmate chuds

[Anonymous No.14836215]

>>14835659
You can't launch from Arkansas

[Anonymous No.14836241]

>>14836143
>11ly away

[Anonymous No.14836290]

>>14836001
This sounds like Silicon Valley but set in space.

[Anonymous No.14836296]

>>14834621
He likes solar and fission. Somewhat of a shame that he doesn't like fusion, given its inevitability.

[Anonymous No.14836303]

>>14836296
Elon likes things that can be put into production right now.

[Anonymous No.14836305]

>>14834621
Total midwit take. Turdf00t may be right after all

[Anonymous No.14836307]

> creates a ready to roll space society on Earth
nothing personnel sci-fi tards

[Anonymous No.14836317]

>>14835595
>Cult sketch group Whitest Kids U’ Know
Never heard of it or any of this other goofy shit
>What’s happening in society right now is like all these rich guys are about to start colonizing the moon because we think that’s still going to be an issue
Fuck off retard

[Anonymous No.14836325]

>>14836001
>If you had to write a comedy with the same topic, what would it be about? Give your pitch
I can't write a comedy.
Instead I'll write a cautionary tale about how the colony gets more and more hamstrung and held back as it develops due to less and less dedicated and driven people moving to it, eventually making it little different to Earth in all the worst ways. It would start very hopeful, with great emphasis on the idealism and the optimistic characters. It would gradually shift focus to the vapid, petty, and cynical characters over time until the original characters basically seem to have nearly been forgotten about by the show itself. They'd still show up some from time to time to keep them in the audience's mind and further showcase the stark difference between the then and now. Any time a newer group moved to the colony the preexisting group would have characters who want to make sure they fit into the colony rather than making the colony fit to them. They'd end up being in the minority every time, being overshadowed by the people who are more "laid back" and "chill." All of this would hopefully showcase well not only how a group starts off strong and gets corrupted over time but also how to avoid that happening and the necessity of doing everything possible to prevent it.

[Anonymous No.14836332]

Sneedly you're chucking, Mr. Feedman!

[Anonymous No.14836334]

>>14835633
Good mornin

[Anonymous No.14836336]

>>14836334

[Anonymous No.14836338]

>>14836336

[Anonymous No.14836355]

In those ancient times..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUcTsFe1PVs

[Anonymous No.14836389]

>>14836325
how would you prevent the pic?
complete purging of the bureaucracy every now and then and starting over? Multiple competing programs at all times and the losers get purged?

[Anonymous No.14836407]

>>14836389
I don't know. Mandate that salaries and benefits cannot go beyond a certain amount per person and that a certain (large) portion of profit must be reinvested into further growth and development? Have that built into the foundation of the company, like a corporate constitution that can't be changed.
I'm not sure there is any good way to come up with a top-down solution. It might be something that you have to have a good culture to maintain, and that requires most of the people in the company at every level to back and enforce that culture.

[Anonymous No.14836437]

>>14836215
Haven't launched from boca Chica either, barge it to your coastal launch site
They should be building artificial island launch sites

[Anonymous No.14836450]

>>14835359
Just die

[Anonymous No.14836459]

>>14836355
While this song is kino, what does it have to do with /sfg/?

[Anonymous No.14836482]

I am forgotten

[moronfag !!zvLqeK4GQhl No.14836494]

>>14835227
>>14835232
le this
304L+CH4 ftw

[Anonymous No.14836529]

>>14836459
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.14836539]

>>14836459
This song talks about a character named Elonapishtim Muskidu promising an orbital launch that year. Was written in 2150 BC

[Anonymous No.14836542]

>>14836539
KEK

[Anonymous No.14836578]

>>14835418
>A Martian, an O'Neill colonist, and an Earther are in LEO for a diplomatic summit. The ISS (service life extended for the 27th time) suddenly falls apart and they're forced to abandon ship. Each of their capsules lands in Siberia.

>The Martian gets out of his capsule, immediately sees a bear, shoots it, and starts walking toward civilization.

>The O'Neill colonist gets out of his capsule, immediately sees a bear, and dashes back inside to wait for rescue.

>The Earther gets out of his capsule, immediately sees a bear, idly stands there, and gets devoured because the UN never told him what to do.

[Anonymous No.14836637]

>>14836407
>fix bureaucracy bloat with ever more regulation overseen by more bureaucrats

Ok
Maybe don't uhhhhhhhhhhhh be bureaucrats in the first place

[Anonymous No.14836638]

>>14836578
>Martian
> lifting a rifle, walking on Earth
lol lmao

[Anonymous No.14836643]

>>14836637
I'm not sure where you got that from.

[Anonymous No.14836662]

>>14836116
Correct.

[Anonymous No.14836663]

[Anonymous No.14836683]

>>14836638
>t. seething Earther
Don't worry, I'm sure one day your government will let you handle firearms.

[Anonymous No.14836693]

>>14836663
You just know

[Anonymous No.14836701]

>>14836683
> trigger guard too small for pressure suit gloves
rustsuckers dumb af fr

[Anonymous No.14836731]

>>14836693
do you think even tho isaacman is married (and the girl too) they are gonna fuck in space for "science"? i bet her husband was like yeah go for it and send me the video. what a sick fuck

[Anonymous No.14836733]

>>14836683
>>14836701
Read 'Meanderings of a weapons-oriented mind when applied to a vacuum such as the moon' for ideas on better space guns.

[Anonymous No.14836746]

So who is getting arrested for the fire?

[Anonymous No.14836754]

>>14836746

[Anonymous No.14836757]

>>14836746
probably this guy, spotted setting fire to the grass with some sort of device.

[Anonymous No.14836776]

>>14836663
How tall is he

[Anonymous No.14836791]

>>14836746
Felon husk, he cannot get away from the EPA this time

[Anonymous No.14836804]

>>14836757

[Anonymous No.14836809]

>>14836757
>>14836804
Why did he do it? this is not a good look for space-x (to hire an arsonist)

[Anonymous No.14836814]

>>14836757
>>14836804
I've seen a lot of fucked up shit on 4chan over the nearly 17 years I've been on here, but one of the things to most affect me was a video from a serial arsonist narrating his burnings. He was absolutely... I can't think of the right word for it, but perhaps "obsessed" works best.

[Anonymous No.14836828]

>>14836539
now play the other song, the one promising an SLS launch in 5150 BC

[Anonymous No.14836834]

>>14836814
I always thought that video was kinda funny. Dude was clearly an autist, he talks like a retard, or like a goofy class clown high schooler.

[Anonymous No.14836880]

can i drink tritium?

[Anonymous No.14836881]

>>14836880
yes

[Anonymous No.14836898]

Drink up!
>>14836894
>>14836894
>>14836894

[Anonymous No.14836998]

>>14836834
sauce