IQ and mental illness

[Anonymous No.14827956]

Is the adage that high intelligence results in mental illness true? Is it supported by scientific research? Or is it something people of middling intelligence say as a form of comfort?

[Anonymous No.14827978]

>>14827956
It's true just not indicative of high intelligence. In any case, does it matter?

[Anonymous No.14827981]

"mental illness" and "brain damage" are synonymous terms, there are no high iq people with unhealthy brains.
>i'm to smart to figure out how to cope
is a completely irrational idea, if you were intelligent then you'd figure it all out better than others.
people who think that they are mentally ill and also unusually intelligent are suffering delusions of grandiosity

[Anonymous No.14828086]

>>14827981
Are intelligent people happier?

[Anonymous No.14828111]

>>14828086
there's no correlation. They are usually motivated, however.

[Anonymous No.14828117]

>>14827956
High IQ IS a mental illness.

[Anonymous No.14828176]

>>14828117
Why are so many high IQ people successful when IQ just increases risk for shitload of mental disorders?

[Anonymous No.14828180]

>>14827956
All the relativity smart people I've known have either killed themselves or gone insane schizo-tier off the rails

[Anonymous No.14828184]

>>14827956
>Is the adage that high intelligence results in mental illness true?
no, but normie cattle perceives them as mentally ill.
> Is it supported by scientific research?
maybe theres a correlation
but that could be explained with higher iq people having difficulty adapting to the average retard (thus having social issues) and also being smart enough to seek help for mental issues if needed

the average retard drowns itself in meaningless consumerism and has insufficient self reflection to grasp any issues with the self

[Anonymous No.14828186]

>>14828176
Being mentally ill does not prevent one from being successful. In fact, psychopaths are often much more successful than normal people due to their mental illness. Not to mention, we have meds for a lot of mental disorders these days. I can assure you most people in academia are on meds.

[Anonymous No.14828194]

>>14828186
>psychopaths are often much more successful than normal people due to their mental illness
[citation needed]
actual psychopaths cant stay anywhere for long as eventually people figure out that they are "off"
thats why psychopaths have to constantly be on the move, most of them are smart enough to realize that they are not normal and that normal people can figure that out given sufficient time

also majority of psychopaths are simply too dumb to "get" emotions and empathy
they have actual brain damage and typically have severly impaired intellectual ability

stuff like hannibal lecter is completely atypical to the average psychopath

[Anonymous No.14828199]

>>14828194
>asks for sources
>provides none of their own
Every time.

[Anonymous No.14828207]

>>14828199
you made the claim first, thats why you have the burden of evidence
i stated the opposite because i can and this isnt rebbit where you need citable sources when giving an opinion

[Anonymous No.14828217]

there is no correlation at all. If you're mentally ill then chances are you were born and raised in harmful or subpar environments or that your brain has been damaged, so very little chances.

[Anonymous No.14828302]

>>14828217
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3356869/
"The presence of major depressive disorder according to DSM-IV-TR criteria was found in 65% of the 100 children with high intellectual potential. It is noteworthy that this high frequency of major depressive disorder was observed in the children with high intellectual potential who came to the CNAHP for psychoaffective problems, but also in the children with high intellectual potential who came to private practice for psychological assessments to skip a grade."

[Anonymous No.14828307]

>>14828302
Psychology is a pseudoscience.

[Anonymous No.14828319]

>>14827956
It's kinda interesting to note how none of the people who believe intelligence can cause depression or whatever, are able to provide a plausible mechanism for that. They will typically whine about all these "problems" high IQ people supposedly have, but in every single case the problems in question can be easily solved by applying one's supposedly high intellect.

[Anonymous No.14828329]

>>14828319
There is no solution to being surrounded by normies

[Anonymous No.14828338]

>>14828329
You are a normie and I don't find it difficult at all to avoid nontrivial interactions with your type. Thanks for demonstrating my point.

[Anonymous No.14828344]

>>14828338
You just interacted with me though

[Anonymous No.14828353]

>>14828319
Yeah, pal. Tell that to someone who is truly depressed^^. I've been attempting suicide since age 5: falling off the stairs with my eyes closed everyday, cutting myself, burning myself, etc.

[Anonymous No.14828367]

>>14828353
Why would I need to tell it to someone who is truly depressed, retard? Most depressed people don't blame it on their intelligence, especially not when they are actually intelligent.

[Anonymous No.14828380]

>>14827981
>hey kids! how do you btfo midwit larping at science board, spewing his made up bullshit left and right? That's right!
With science!
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289616303324

[Anonymous No.14828383]

>>14828380
Psychology is pseudoscience. >>>/lit/

[Anonymous No.14828386]

>>14828383
Sci is not scientists.
>>>/lgbt/

[Anonymous No.14828393]

>>14828199
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2118547-real-life-psychopaths-actually-have-below-average-intelligence/

[Anonymous No.14828396]

To the ancients this was obvious. Just look at any semi-renowned Greek, they were all weirdos. Especially Pythagoras.

Same goes for creative people

[Anonymous No.14828419]

>>14828307
Cope

[Anonymous No.14828420]

>>14828419
Your opinion is the very definition of cope.

[Jealous No.14828423]

The addage that smart people seem like crazy people to dumb people is true.

[Anonymous No.14828425]

>>14828420
The correlation between high IQ and depression was demonstrated. That's basically the end of the thread.

[Anonymous No.14828427]

>>14828420
>Psychology is the scientific study of mind and behavior.
you are pseud, probably a dropout, or not even enrolled.

[Anonymous No.14828430]

>>14828425
>pseudoscience paper from a field notorious for its nonreproducible, poorly constructed studies demonstrates says X
>therefore X is true
Holy mother of cope.

[Anonymous No.14828434]

>>14828427
You are absolutely foaming at the mouth over the realization that your well-deserved misery in life is a result of your dysgenics and low intellect, rather than of you being 2smart2live. :^)

[Anonymous No.14828440]

>>14828430
Sure, but then you have to throw out the idea of a high IQ/intelligent person as well. Both IQ and depression are equally substantiated in psychology (you can't say that IQ is real or a valid metric and not depression; in fact depression has a lot of neuroscientific evidence as wel). So the thread becomes pointless anyway.
I'd be interested if there are more studies showing a correlation

[Jealous No.14828441]

>>14828434
The Inappropriately Excluded
https://polymatharchives.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-inappropriately-excluded.html
>Theoretically, after Hollingworth, a person's social relationships should be limited to people with R16IQs within 30 points of their own. For the 100 IQ person, this will include about 94% of the population and consequently it is not an issue. However, for the 150 R16IQ (140 D15IQ), social relationships are limited to 120-180 R16IQ people which represents just a little over 10% of the population. The 165 R16IQ (150D15IQ) person will be limited to people with 135+ R16IQs (130 D15IQ). This comprises just 2% of the population. By 182 R16IQ (160 D15IQ) the problem becomes critical with social relationships limited to those with R16IQs over 152 (142 D15IQ) which comprises just 0.25% of the population.

t. literal "off the chart" 200+ IQ

[Anonymous No.14828442]

>>14828440
>you have to throw out the idea of a high IQ/intelligent person as well.
No, I don't, because the validity of IQ is corroborated by more serious fields of study.

[Jealous No.14828443]

>>14828434
>foaming at the mouth that people might acknowledge reality and stop lying

[Anonymous No.14828448]

>>14828441
>source: blogspot.com
>i'm a 300 IQ schizo btw
lol

[Anonymous No.14828449]

>>14828442
So is depression
IQ is not more substantiated than depression

[Anonymous No.14828452]

>>14827956
Opposite is true.

[Anonymous No.14828453]

>>14828449
I guess your exceptionally IQ is not enough to keep track of a conversation. Show me where I implied depression is "unsubstantiated".

[Anonymous No.14828459]

>>14828453
If depression is real, and IQ is real, and it's more common for high IQ people to suffer from depression (which may or may not be true) then there's a correlation. That's not enough to know of there's a causal mechanism, as some anon correctly pointed out. It would be interesting to see more studies

[Jealous No.14828462]

>>14828448
>lol

[Anonymous No.14828466]

>>14828459
>it's more common for high IQ people to suffer from depression
You have not demonstrated this.
>b-b-but muh dumpster-tier psychology studies
See >>14828430

[Anonymous No.14828477]

>>14828466
>You have not demonstrated this.
So far several papers have been posted and there's nothing wrong with the methodology.
Test for it
Test for depression
Find a correlation or lack of one
Thats it. That's a perfectly fine methodology.
I don't understand why this is getting you angry.

[Anonymous No.14828482]

>>14828477
>several papers have been posted
See >>14828430

[Anonymous No.14828483]

>>14828482
Is there anything wrong with the methods in those studies

[Anonymous No.14828487]

>>14828483
Anyone can shit out a study claiming anything. Psychology is not a credibler field. Try again.

[Anonymous No.14828499]

>>14828487
The only way to find a correlation is to do what I outlined here >>14828477 that is a perfectly valid test and with large enough sample size it we find a correlation or lack of one.

[Anonymous No.14828505]

>>14828487
you're retarded

[Anonymous No.14828506]

>>14828499
You sound like you suffer from profound mental retardation. I don't know why you can't wrap your head around the fact that no one is rationally obligated to trust psuedoscientists at their word.

[Anonymous No.14828518]

>>14828482
>I reject papers I disagree with and accept only those I like!
>that's how I combat my selection bias!

[Anonymous No.14828519]

>>14828506
If you agree that IQ is real and can be tested, and depression is real and can be tested, then there is nothing at all that stops us from finding correlations. This wouldn't be a causal mechanism which is a more interesting question (why would high IQ cause an increase in depression) but correlations can be found in a straightforward manner.

[Anonymous No.14828524]

>>14828519
you are discussing with double-digit.

[Anonymous No.14828529]

>>14828519
>there is nothing at all that stops us from finding correlations
You haven't shown that there is any correlaction. Your IQ is definitely below average. You just can't keep track of a conversation. You keep making the same error over and over again.

[Anonymous No.14828531]

>>14827956
Higher IQ people, whatever IQ means, are usually more rational. Being rational without being moral, leads one to conclude that one is irrational, since morality is knowing what is right and wrong. Doing the wrong thing consciously, is essentially rationally being irrational which obviously causes great conflict in the individual just as a triangle cant naturally become a circle. A rational person can only thus be happy be being virtuous, a concept often ignored in modern society.

[Anonymous No.14828540]

>>14828531
This is what autistic midwits actually believe. Holy shit.

[Anonymous No.14828543]

>>14828529
articles above shows correlation, feel free to comment on them and have them removed if they are invalid.

[Anonymous No.14828549]

>>14828543
>articles above
Anyone can shit out articles claiming anything. No one is rationally compelled to take these studies seriously when they come from a field with essentially zero quality control.

[Anonymous No.14828556]

>>14828540
Yeah, sure buddy im the midwit. Go watch some more porn smoke, some more weed and eat some greasy junk food all day long. I'm sure those things doesn't have an effect on your psyche whats so ever :^)

[Anonymous No.14828558]

>>14828549
>No one is rationally compelled to take these studies seriously when they come from a field with essentially zero quality control

Might be. Contact your University president office with written complain on that!

[Anonymous No.14828564]

>>14828558
I acccept your concession. Call me back when psychology is credible.

[Anonymous No.14828566]

>>14828529
Im following the conversation fine, nothing you're saying is relevant. You're a genuine moron who's entire position in this is just based on your dislike of psychology.

[Anonymous No.14828575]

>>14827956
when will this board be freed of IQ and intelligence threads

[Anonymous No.14828576]

>>14828566
>Im following the conversation fine
Then why do you keep replying with total nonsequiturs? Claiming that correlations can be found doesn't mean I should just take a pseudoscientist's word for it when he says he's found whatever correlations.

[Anonymous No.14828579]

>>14828564
you accepted credibility of psychology by accepting IQ as a measure of human intelligence. Stop self-contradicting yourself, it's a sign.

[Anonymous No.14828585]

>>14828575
>when will this board be freed of intelligence
already is

[Anonymous No.14828590]

>>14828576
>Then why do you keep replying with total nonsequiturs?
I'm not
> Claiming that correlations can be found doesn't mean I should just take a pseudoscientist's word for it when he says he's found whatever correlations.
Yes it does unless you can point out a specific flaw in some studies specific methods. Which may be the case, and that study wouldn't be valid.

[Anonymous No.14828597]

>>14828590
>you should just trust them b-b-b-because!
Mental illness and low IQ go together as you repeatedly show.

[Anonymous No.14828601]

>>14828597
You're an actual moron

[Anonymous No.14828602]

>>14828597
>>you should just trust them b-b-b-because!
nope, you should read the paper with evidence in it.

[Anonymous No.14828617]

>>14828601
Still waiting for you to explain why I should trust pseudoscientists.
>b-b-but they claim their methodology was [insert something plausible-sounding]
Why should I trust their claims? No one makes sure they properly follow through with their stated methodology, or that they don't fudge their results. Moreoever, for every toilet paper you present, there may be 10 null results that simply weren't published. This is essentially a honor and trust-based system, and the field of psychology doesn't have the kind of credibility to justify this trust. Seethe harder, mentally ill muppet.

[Anonymous No.14828622]

>>14828597
>Mental illness and low IQ go together as you repeatedly show.
it doesn't rule out that high IQ correlates as well, welcome to statistics 101.

[Anonymous No.14828626]

>>14828617
You're an actual moron

[Anonymous No.14828637]

>>14828617
>bases his judgment on paranoid assumption
>throws around mental illness insults

[Anonymous No.14828655]

>>14828626
>>14828637
>low IQ seething intensifies
Call me back when you have a refutation. In the meanwhile, enjoy your life of miserable midwittery.

[Anonymous No.14828664]

>>14828655
No refutation is needed, midwit. It's clear to everyone you're a hypocritical idiot.

[Anonymous No.14828665]

>>14828655
>continues to throw midwit tier insults
ywnb>100

[Anonymous No.14828669]

>>14828664
>>14828665
See >>14828617 and seethe harder.

[Anonymous No.14828681]

>>14827981
Seek help, everything will be okay, no need to be a giant faggot.

[Anonymous No.14828691]

>>14828383
No it isn't

[Anonymous No.14828700]

>>14828691
Midwits like you get extremely emotionally invested in the idea of some indirect markers of intelligence because they have nothing concrete to show for their self-perceived high intellect. You're emotionally incapable of discussing this question.

[Anonymous No.14828702]

>>14828669
>"IQ is a valid psychometric and psychologists can test for it"
>"depression is real and psychologists can test for it"
>"NOOOOO YOURE NOT ALLOWED TO TEST FOR THEM BOTH AND ANY TEST DOING SO IS ACTUALLY FAKE PSEUDOSCIENCE"
Everyone can see you're a moron and a hypocrite. Continue to display your profound mental illness if you want

[Anonymous No.14828705]

>>14828702
You're literally too retarded to even write a congruent post. This is a consistent pattern with you ITT. LOL

[Anonymous No.14828706]

will never understand why people waste time arguing with obvious retards

[Anonymous No.14828716]

>>14828706
Dunking on assblasted midwits is lighthearted entertainment.

[Anonymous No.14828720]

>>14828706
I believe it stems from an animalistic impulse to defend ones territory, while the individuals in question lack the wherewithal to suppress their fickle desires. Thats my preliminary conclusion in any case.

[Anonymous No.14828724]

>I believe it stems from an animalistic impulse to defend ones territory, while the individuals in question lack the wherewithal to suppress their fickle desires. Thats my preliminary conclusion in any case.
Imagine using 5th grader vocabulary to express 2nd-grader-tier thoughts and thinking you sound like an intellectual.

[Anonymous No.14828726]

>>14828724
Its called jolly badinage, you changeling!

[Anonymous No.14828728]

>>14827956
>Is the adage that high intelligence results in mental illness true?
Of course. That's why depression rates among sociology and psychology students are so low, meanwhile the mathematics and physics departments are full of suicidal people. Come on. I mean, come on. What kind of a retard do you need to be to trust professional midwitologists when they say their mental illnesses are caused by their extreme intelligence.

[Anonymous No.14828736]

>>14828705
There is nothing incoherent in any of that anons posts

[Anonymous No.14828742]

>>14828736
You are samefagging. It's extremely obvious because you're phoneposting and consistently failing to use punctuation in certain places. How pathetic can you get?

[Anonymous No.14828744]

>>14828706
It's for third parties. Showing someone to be an idiot to a third party is fun

[Anonymous No.14828754]

>>14828742
Nope

[Anonymous No.14828791]

Anons like this should be banned. /sci/ is not /pol/, denying science should be worthy of a ban.

[Anonymous No.14828915]

>>14828791
>Anons like this should be banned. /sci/ is not /pol/, denying science should be worthy of a ban.
Psychology is not a real science. I know you're new here, but shitting on psychology is standard practice on /sci/.

[Anonymous No.14828991]

>>14828380
Lol that study includes a selection bias, non-representative members, and even includes self-diagnoses.

[Anonymous No.14828999]

>>14828991
Ummmm sweaty? You're denying science and you should be banned for it. Go back to the /pol/ sub. Psychology is rigorous and you can't prove that there's anything wrong with their methodology.

[Anonymous No.14829035]

>>14828791

[Anonymous No.14829094]

A bunch of brainlet zoomers seething about high IQ people, instead of researching medical papers that are available to everyone.
Wow, what a novel thread.

To OP.
It depends what you mean when you say "mental illness".
If you mean depression, anxiety and others conditions that can be created/exacerbated from enviroment and social events... then no.
The distribuition is pretty similar across the IQ range.
If you mean OCD, personality disorders, high-funcional autism then yes. High IQ people correlates with this conditions (and a lot more).
But so does low IQ people. Although in lesser degree.

Also, the notion that smart people get depressed because they understand how the world is fucked is deceivious.
I would argue that being dumb and don't know why you are getting fucked all the time is more damaging.

t. Psychiatrist

[Anonymous No.14829305]

>>14828999
Yeah, because a study of American Mensa members as a method of studying prevalence of mental illness is not a selection bias nor an unrepresentative sample? But since you love psychology so much, here is a paper that calls you out on our beloved 'methodology':
https://www.gwern.net/docs/iq/ses/2021-brown.pdf
"Before drawing any firm conclusions from some of
these past findings, however, note that several of these
studies included nonrepresentative samples and had
relatively low statistical power. For example, in two
studies, claims that high cognitive ability is related to
a greater risk of maladaptive psychological functioning
were based on a between-groups comparison of American Mensa members and nonrandom control groups
(Karpinski et al., 2018; Matta et al., 2019). Not only is
selection bias an alternative explanation for the study
results, but also, without a direct measure or proxy of
cognitive ability, it is unclear whether these group differences should be attributed to differences in cognitive
ability."
Shall I go on to prove why you are wrong? ;)

[Anonymous No.14829753]

>>14829094
So you have the two categories: OCD, personality disorders, high functioning autism, etc. (let's label these (1)) and as you've said "conditions that can be created/exacerbated from environment and social events" (let's label these (2)).

You've said that (1) are correlated with high IQ.

There's literature indicating that (and by definition in some instances) some (1) are correlated with some (2).

Yet (2) is not correlated with high IQ.
That's fairly interesting if true -- have you seen any literature that looks into how that can be?

[Anonymous No.14829775]

>>14827956
you are fucked in the head cos you're inbred and your mom was drinking during pregnancy, not because you are smart and shit

[Anonymous No.14829813]

High IQ people have more mental illnesses so they should not be in charge of big companies and the government.

[Anonymous No.14830402]

>>14829753
>some (1) are correlated with some (2)
Yes.
My gigantic reductionism aside, think cluster 2 as more episodic and cluster 1 as more disorders per se.

>That's fairly interesting if true -- have you seen any literature that looks into how that can be?

To be honest, this is a topic that I haven't research in many years. I will catch up in the next days and, if possible, get back to you.

Meanwhile, this study is pretty famous:

https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/appi.ajp.2008.08030343

Koenen et al. found that high IQ protected against anxiety, social phobia and PTSD. Probably because of better insights and coping mechanisms.
They also claim that low IQ people have more anxiety disorders, but others studies and statistics found that not to be accurate.
The thing is, remember the 2 groups?
Well, depression and anxiety can be both.
Episodic and disorder.
Also, the self-reporting nature of most of the studies done is pretty unreliable.

[Anonymous No.14830855]

>>14827956
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.05.26.22275621v1.full

"The present study provides robust evidence that highly intelligent individuals have no more mental health disorders than the average population. High intelligence even appears as a protective factor for general anxiety and PTSD."

[Anonymous No.14830904]

Since people in poverty are more likely to be mentally ill, and high IQ are more likely to be mentally ill as well, are they smarter as well?

[Anonymous No.14830936]

>>14830855
>2sd
?

[Anonymous No.14830961]

>>14830936
Your point?

[Anonymous No.14830965]

>>14830961
Worthless.

[Anonymous No.14830967]

>>14830965
No u

[Anonymous No.14830969]

>>14830967
Ok.

[Anonymous No.14831571]

>>14830402
The diagnoses could just mean dumb people are more likely to be diagnosed, and smarter people are less likely to be diagnosed (and more likely to hide it).

[Anonymous No.14831611]

>>14831571
If you can 'hide' a behavioral disorder, then it is, by definition not a behavioral disorder anymore. All psychiatry is behavioral disorders because psychiatric disorders are based on abnormal culturally non-sanctioned behavior. If people then turn behavioral disorders into some vague mind condition that is also somehow a body disease (because screw everybody who actually gives a damn about the mind-body dichotomy), then you get the psychiatrically ill that is neither mentally nor physically ill. Wonderful, isn't it?

You're still under the impression that a psychiatric diagnosis has any meaning and indicates some real issue rather than some make-believe faith problem. As long as psychiatry was about eugenics, low IQ people were obviously targeted. Since it turned into a multi billion dollar industry, they diagnose high IQ people because that's where the money is.

[Anonymous No.14832501]

>>14828194
It depends on environmental factors.
A child who shows early signs of psychopathy, if properly educated and disciplined can become a high-functioning one. It requires completely different methods than what you use with neurotypical kids. For example you NEVER use negative reinforcement with psychopaths as they learn nothing from punishment and it kickstarts their ability to come up with complex revenge schemes from early age.
With those kids you use positive reinforcement and allow them to canalize their inner aggression towards productive goals. That's how you get extremely successful athletes, artists, surgeons and politicians.

The issue is society is designed so these kids who show potential end up low-functioning and thrown into prisons.
Lack of good and strong father figures and single motherhood makes it even worse. This is intentional so those who occupy positions of power minimize the competition and ensure it's their genes that get passed on.

[Anonymous No.14832552]

>>14831611
Bro anyone can hide symptoms of depression...

[Anonymous No.14833512]

>>14827956
>Is the adage that high intelligence results in mental illness true?
Yes
>Or is it something people of middling intelligence say as a form of comfort?
also yes


>>14827981
Just like >>14827978 said, its true that people of higher intelligence tend to suffer from mental illness, but mental illness is not indicative of higher intelligence. Also mental illness is not brain damage unless you want to attempt the reach of a life time.

The same issue arises with individuals who have a proclivity to deviate from the social/societal norms, Individuals who have higher intelligences tend to follow a path less traveled in a lot of cases and are successful at doing this because of their giftedness but then the laymen who possesses this same proclivity sees an elon musk character and draw similarities to their own proclivity to deviate from the norm as an indication of giftedness, when in fact, they're just an idiot who is weird and in reality they would be better off and suffer significantly less just being an average joe.

[Anonymous No.14833878]

>>14830904
Sometimes, ignorance is bliss, they prove it with ocam's razor, and for what serve your intelligence if you can't solve a problem with it, stop worrying about intelligence and it and follow your dreams, anon, i believe in you

[Anonymous No.14834118]

>>14830402
I would appreciate that, much obliged!

>Koenen et al. ..
Strange. I suppose that I'm not so surprised with those comorbidities.
The claimed correlation between childhood maltreatment and IQ is surprising to me, though I don't see where that data is and the citation that they have doesn't refer to it. I seethe.

[Anonymous No.14834864]

>>14827956
This study shows that smarter people are happier. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/psychological-medicine/article/abs/relationship-between-happiness-and-intelligent-quotient-the-contribution-of-socioeconomic-and-clinical-factors/852640AC984DB7EC623D9D2C1A2D0A5A

[Anonymous No.14835288]

>>14828194
What psychopathy does to the mind is basically removing all the restrictions people have from their emotions and empathy, right from the day they're born.
Can you picture in your mind you committing vile and unethical acts? If you're neurotypical the answer is probably no because of your empathy. If you're a psychopath however the thought may cross your mind because nothing is sacred or taboo.

Sociopathy does the same, but it develops over time through abuse. If you are abused and tortured every day for a sufficiently long period of time and somehow your mind doesn't develop PTSD or some other disorder, of course you will come up with very dark thoughts and become much more cunning and pragmatic.

Now a child who shows signs of psychopathy will have a raging mind suggesting him/her all sorts of depraved shit and whether they get curious and experiment with things they're not supposed to (early sexual behavior and animal abuse) or not depends on the environment they're raised in.
If they come from an abusive environment they will most likely end up low-functioning and either dead or behind bars as soon as they enter adulthood.
Otherwise (and it's extremely hard since they need a very specific education and disciplining style. Hint: powerful psychos know this very well and they raise their kids accordingly) they become high-functioning: their minds are completely unrestricted but they have learned what's socially acceptable and what isn't.
We're talking about kids who think like adults and adults who think like they have lived multiple lives. They can be wrong, but they still have a cognitive advantage over neurotypicals, in exchange for emotional retardation (which is corrected over time anyway).

In short, if both genetic (a high IQ is still needed) and environmental factors are favorable, a high-functioning psychopath has a tremendous advantage over neurotypicals.

[Anonymous No.14835510]

>>14827981
this
sick brain = dumb brain

[Anonymous No.14837080]

>>14828176
>when IQ just increases risk for shitload of mental disorders?
¨Cite?

[Anonymous No.14837208]

>>14827956
It’s not an adage. You have nothing to worry about.

[Anonymous No.14837219]

>>14835510
truly amazing analysis
have you already published your results?