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even in embryology.
''For the past three years, I have worked with the Embryology Committee of King Abdulaziz University in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, helping them reinterpret the many statements in the Qur’an and Sunnah referring to human reproduction and prenatal development. At first, I was astonished by the accuracy of the statements that were recorded in the 7th century AD, before the science of embryology was established.''

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>>14825104
Holy Books have more accurate description of reality than the made up garbage by soientists, claiming man is an evolved monkey and that pumping your veins full of mysterious chemicals is a good idea.

>> No.14825124

>>14825104
>plagiarizes galen
>describes embryology worse than galen did
>still wrong
the stages of embryos aren't "pure droplet of water", "slug", "chewed thing", "bones", "bones covered in flesh". bones form well after "flesh"
>the Embryology Committee of King Abdulaziz University in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
lmao

>> No.14825126

>>14825124
''For the past three years, I have worked with the Embryology Committee of King Abdulaziz University in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, helping them reinterpret the many statements in the Qur’an and Sunnah referring to human reproduction and prenatal development. At first, I was astonished by the accuracy of the statements that were recorded in the 7th century AD, before the science of embryology was established.''

YOU ARE NOT A DOCTOR
HE IS

>> No.14825128

>>14825126
A Saudi Arabian doctor isn't a real doctor.

Your country is full of low-IQ monkies following a backwards bronze age religion. Your people are only tolerated because you happen to live on top of oil.

tl;dr: Saudi Arabia is a country full of Africans who were mistakenly painted brown instead of black.

>> No.14825132

>>14825128
LMAOOOOO

>> No.14825136

>>14825126
Doctors have lied for worse thing. someone slipped a few buckaroos in the pockets of keith so he would say the quran description of embryology is miraculously accurate when that's absoloutly not true. "pure droplet of water", "slug", "chewed thing", "bones", "bones covered in flesh" is a fucking joke even by 700s standards
also lmao at a professor of anatomy working in comparative theology and quran studies
>in the 7th century AD, before the science of embryology was established.''
this statement is categorically false, galen wrote about embryology in far more detail way before that.

>> No.14825142

>>14825126
Appeal to authority.

>> No.14825152

>>14825128
>A Saudi Arabian doctor isn't a real doctor.
Keith Leon Moore was a professor in the division of anatomy, in the faculty of Surgery, at the University of Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Moore was associate dean for Basic Medical Sciences in the university's faculty of Medicine and was Chair of Anatomy from 1976 to 1984.

>> No.14825159

>>14825142
>>14825128
>>14825136
He is more accomplished than you and no other doctors have replied to his message about Qur'an. These two things in themselves make clear arguments as to why he is correct.

It was fun replying to you but I suggest to not use disingenuous tactics like ''he's lying'' anymore because that's quite tragic.

>> No.14825167

>>14825104
Mohammed literally contradicts himself multiple times, it's why muslims have to rely on "abrogation" or "take the latest verse on the topic

>> No.14825168

Didn't read the thread but I assume it's full of seething christcucks
Am I correct?

>> No.14825174

>>14825167
Please address >>14825159

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>>14825168
Post nose rabbi.

>> No.14825177

>>14825159
you have yet to answer any of these arguments.
1. galen wrote all of this way before muhammad and muhammad's description is similar to galen's
2. "pure droplet of water", "clot of blood", "chewed thing", "bones", "bones covered in flesh" is a very bad and incorrect description of embryogensis
3. bones don't form before "flesh" or muscular tissue

>I suggest to not use disingenuous tactics like ''he's lying''
he is literally lying

>> No.14825188

>>14825177
>he is literally lying
That is literally allowed in islam, but allah is the greatest deceiver..

The most fun you can have with a muslim is getting them to explain why there are 6236 verses or to make that clearer 6 2*3 6 = 666
historically they also counted 6616 verses.
This is clearly a violation of the board rule of "no religion vs science threads"

>> No.14825191

>>14825177
1) Galen describes the creation of the embryo in The Formation of the Embryo32 as follows: firstly, two of four vessels in the embryo become one, and form a great vein that is inserted into the liver.
2) Clay contains: Oxygen, Carbon, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Calcium, Phosphorus, Potassium, Sulfur, Chlorine, Sodium, Magnesium and Silicon; all of which are required for human functioning and development.
3)The Qur’an describes the next stage of the developing human embryo with the word `alaqah. This word carries various meanings including: to hang, to be suspended, to be dangled, to stick, to cling, to cleave and to adhere. It can also mean to catch, to get caught, to be affixed or subjoined. Other connotations of the word `alaqah include a leech-like substance, having the resemblance of a worm; or being of a ‘creeping’ disposition inclined to the sucking of blood. Finally, its meaning includes clay that clings to the hand and thick, clotted blood – because of its clinging together.

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>>14825188
>>14825177
>>14825176

>> No.14825195

>>14825193
So you don't have an actual argument and post religion threads on /sci/ despite them being banned here?

>> No.14825199

>>14825106
Wrong, that is a disc.

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>>14825195
>there are 6236 verses or to make that clearer 6 2*3 6 = 666

>> No.14825204

>>14825106
Maybe stop using badly interpreted mistranslations?
https://flatearthdeception.com/biblical-proofs-of-the-globe-earth/

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>>14825204
any biblical proofs of evolution, christcuck?

>> No.14825208

>>14825201
So why are there 6236 verses?

>> No.14825212

>>14825205
Why would there need to be biblical proof? The old testament is merely a remnant of an ancient advanced civilisation complete with flying saucers and weather warfare

>> No.14825214

>>14825191
>1) Galen describes the creation of the embryo in The Formation of the Embryo32 as follows: firstly, two of four vessels in the embryo become one, and form a great vein that is inserted into the liver.
holy fuck muslims are dishonest. here is how galen describes it
>let us divide the creation of the foetus overall into four periods of time. The first is that in which. as is seen both in abortions and in dissection, the form of the semen prevails. At this time, Hippocrates too, the all-marvelous, does not yet call the conformation of the animal a foetus; as we heard just now in the case of semen voided in the sixth day, he still calls it semen. But when it has been filled with blood, and heart, brain and liver are still unarticulated and unshaped yet have by now a certain solidarity and considerable size, this is the second period; the substance of the foetus has the form of flesh and no longer the form of semen. Accordingly you would find that Hippocrates too no longer calls such a form semen but, as was said, foetus. The third period follows on this, when, as was said, it is possible to see the three ruling parts clearly and a kind of outline, a silhouette, as it were, of all the other parts. You will see the conformation of the three ruling parts more clearly, that of the parts of the stomach more dimly, and much more still, that of the limbs. Later on they form "twigs", as Hippocrates expressed it, indicating by the term their similarity to branches. The fourth and final period is at the stage when all the parts in the limbs have been differentiated; and at this part Hippocrates the marvelous no longer calls the foetus an embryo only, but already a child, too when he says that it jerks and moves as an animal now fully formed
>tl;dr
4 stages. stage 1 semen, stage 2 semen filled with blood, stage 3 outline of body, has limbs like twigs. stage 4 clearly a child, moves. way accurate and precise than muhammads description and this was written in 100-200CE

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>The old testament is merely a remnant of an ancient advanced civilisation complete with flying saucers and weather warfare

>> No.14825223

>>14825219
Are you so afraid of the implications that you resort to soijak posting??

>> No.14825226

>>14825191
>2) Clay contains: Oxygen, Carbon, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Calcium, Phosphorus, Potassium, Sulfur, Chlorine, Sodium, Magnesium and Silicon; all of which are required for human functioning and development.
clay is largely made of silicate minerals. the trace organic compounds come from dead living matter.
btw humans have 0 silicate minerals in their body. 90-98% of clay is silicates 0% of the human body is silicates. makes sense
>3)The Qur’an describes the next stage of the developing human embryo with the word `alaqah. This word carries various meanings including: to hang, to be suspended, to be dangled, to stick, to cling, to cleave and to adhere. It can also mean to catch, to get caught, to be affixed or subjoined. Other connotations of the word `alaqah include a leech-like substance, having the resemblance of a worm; or being of a ‘creeping’ disposition inclined to the sucking of blood. Finally, its meaning includes clay that clings to the hand and thick, clotted blood – because of its clinging together.
this is all imprecise and vague as fuck. anyone that says this is miraculously accurate is lying. all of these very flexible interpretations are still wrong lmao

>> No.14825245

>>14825223
>>14825226
stop crying already christshits and go kiss some nigger feet

>> No.14825251

>>14825245
>everyone I don't like is a christian

Do I need to be christian to show that something is dumb?

>> No.14825254

>>14825251
why are you so defensive about your retarded faith, christcuck?

>> No.14825260

>>14825254
No that's an irrelevant dispute, you're being defensive because you tried to use supposed proof from an "authority figure" to claim that something you read was somehow legitimate, your next intent would have been to use it to cross justify everything else in your religious book.
You won't admit failure or incompetent plagiarism.

>> No.14825269

>>14825245
>no argument
i accept your secession anon. i hope you finally realized that we weren't made out of fucking clay

>> No.14825270

>>14825128
*tips fedora*
Atheism leads to suicide and death

>> No.14825276

>>14825270
Why would anyone need to be atheist? it's a purely materialist worldview that is at complete odds with the evidence.

>> No.14825283

Whatever it is, they got it from scientists, not from clerics. Research already had been going on for centuries, also in embryology, when Islam took control of the region.