/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.14806110]

>Depression?
SSRI
>OCD?
SSRI
>Anxiety?
SSRI
>Anorexia?
SSRI
>Bulimia?
SSRI
>PTSD?
SSRI
>Random unexplained pain?
SSRI
>Bad periods?
SSRI

[Anonymous No.14806122]

society is not your family. If you have problems, you will be drugged and numbed to prevent your problems from spreading, escalating. This is not about love. Be normal. Or buzz off

[Anonymous No.14806129]

society is not your family. If you have problems, you will be drugged and numbed to prevent your problems from spreading, escalating. This is not about love. Be normal. Or buzz off.

You come to society for help, you go to your villages shaman or medicine man for help, you get what they give you

[Anonymous No.14806131]

>>14806110
Follow the leftist big pharma money trail.

[Anonymous No.14806142]

>>14806110
And what solutions do you have in mind?

[Anonymous No.14806176]

>>14806110
That was at least nowhere near as bad as when they started repurposing antipsychotics as a treatment for everything and Abilify even became the best selling pharmaceutical of any kind (not just psychiatric drugs) in 2014.
Antipsychotics fuck you up way worse. Risperdal was causing prolactin secreting brain tumors, they all are associated with sudden morbid obesity, the older ones especially (but the newer ones still too to a lesser extent) basically induce Parkinson's Disease with permanent muscle spasms / tongue twitching / shuffling gait, etc.

[Anonymous No.14806181]

>>14806176
How to recover? No refunds? What do you know of the one called "Latuda"?

[Anonymous No.14806202]

>>14806129
Okay so psychiatrists are lying to you when they say they're helping you. They're not actually helping you, they're protecting society from you. If that's the case how can i have any trust in any academic institution?

[Anonymous No.14806210]

>>14806202
They aren't protecting society from anyone. From their perspective, they are doing exactly what they are trained to.

[Anonymous No.14806212]

>>14806110
Mental illness is a good thing because it co-occurs with high intelligence. I have been taking antidepressants on-and-off for a decade and nothing helped. I have attempted suicide as early as age 5 and I would burn myself, cut, or throw myself down the stairs with my eyes closed everyday. But I took an IQ test online and I got a 138, so I guess that is a W.

[Anonymous No.14806217]

>>14806210
>they are doing exactly what they are trained to
Which is to prescribe drugs to protect society from you by numbing you.

[Anonymous No.14806219]

>>14806212
>But I took an IQ test online
Not valid. They ALL will give scores in the 120s-140s. Less than 1% of humans score above 140

[Anonymous No.14806234]

>>14806219
Pretty sure that's a myth. There are plenty of online IQ tests you can pay for. And most of them are run by psychologists.

[Anonymous No.14806237]

>>14806234
>Pretty sure that's a myth.
Cope

[Anonymous No.14806239]

>>14806237
I wish this board had better debaters. This is embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.14806242]

>>14806239
Debating garbage assertions is pointless. That is Montel and Jerry Springer mentality and what you seek.

[Anonymous No.14806247]

>>14806242
You're rhetorically ineffective which will make people believe your opponent even if you're right.

[Anonymous No.14806248]

>>14806237
These guys took an online IQ test (if you watched the video). And they look pretty accurate.

[Anonymous No.14806249]

>>14806142
Every male that gets a mental health diagnosis must run the Starting Strength program until their noob gains run out. Then we will reassess from that point onward

[Anonymous No.14806268]

>>14806202
>Okay so psychiatrists are lying to you when they say they're helping you. They're not actually helping you,
If someone is panic stricken, in terror, hysterical, under continual regular mental distress, and seeking solutions of easing this, there are so many different options.

We live in a world of free comerciality, maybe 1 depressed or anxious person over here will feel a bit better with some holistic healthy lifestyle activities; noones stoping anyone from trying different things, but pschiatry is like the rock bottom AA for feeling mentally unwell, instead of trying to not consume a substance to change mental state, your are seeking a substance to change mental state.

History has a long history of community rituals or sacred ceremonies and festivals in which members could escape their minds to degrees possibly with substances, alcohol is a common of these mind buzzers,

The psychiatrist is akin to the ancient shaman medicine man, given a member of the community mental, spiritual releif, via psycho interactive substance.

[Anonymous No.14806273]

>>14806217
>Which is to prescribe drugs to protect society from you by numbing you.
The person seeking the drugs is seeking to change their mental experience, the drugs do that.

[Anonymous No.14806282]

>>14806268
doling out SSRIs is not what a shaman does. it is anathema to anything a real “mental expert” should do

legitimizing people becoming dependent on powerful psychiatric substances like SSRIs is basically ethically equivalent to hooking children on crack cocaine

[Anonymous No.14806315]

>>14806268
You've equated taking antipsychotics (which are typically taken while alone, in the morning) with drinking alone in the morning.

[Anonymous No.14806324]

>>14806247
>You're rhetorically ineffective which will make people believe your opponent even if you're right.
^pot head logic on display.

[Anonymous No.14806326]

>>14806248
kek

[Anonymous No.14806327]

>>14806315
>You've equated taking antipsychotics (which are typically taken while alone, in the morning) with drinking alone in the morning
I just meant to highlight the commonality in society of investing extracurricular substances to alter mental states, and alcohol being a very common way people do that.

Maybe all the nightly drinkers and weekend bar drunkards would be happier off booze and on ssris, maybe some of both, I don't know.

Some people need to quite down and change aspects of their mental experience, substances exist that do this. Ssris are some of those substances, and seem to be popularly used as such

[Anonymous No.14806330]

>>14806327
You have the limpest view.
>maybe this, maybe that, maybe it's good, maybe both
>I don't know

>ssris are used to change mental experience
>it's popular!
So is heroin you fucking dipshit.

[Anonymous No.14806367]

>>14806330
>>ssris are used to change mental experience
>>it's popular!
Ok so, alternatives? And ask the people on the drugs if they want to stop and do your alternative instead?

[Anonymous No.14806421]

>>14806249
This is a blueprint for a functional society right here

[Anonymous No.14806476]

>>14806176

Can confirm, Antipsychotics are poison that they lie about being medicine.

[Anonymous No.14806482]

>>14806268
>The psychiatrist is akin to the ancient shaman medicine man, given a member of the community mental, spiritual releif, via psycho interactive substance.

Except far more dangerous. The drugs he gives out have been designed with malicious intent, and he is even more ignorant than the shaman of their effects, as the shaman at least takes his own drugs.

[Anonymous No.14807002]

>>14806110
Do americans really ?

[Anonymous No.14807004]

>>14806110
That's why I have ADHD because we get based amphetamine :)

[Anonymous No.14807466]

Big Pharma is the problem.
The psychiatrists are (typically morally neutral) agents of this problem, while the patients can either be helped or hurt by the drugs depending on a variety of factors.

[Anonymous No.14808483]

>>14806212
You probably aren't high IQ if you don't already know you're high IQ (ie, if you weren't thoroughly tested as a child)

[Anonymous No.14808493]

>>14806110
Just eat ze shrooms

[Anonymous No.14809014]

>>14808483
Given that the scientific consensus is that mentally ill people are more likely to be intelligent, AND that I have an IQ of 138... yeah, I think the latter speaks for itself.

[Anonymous No.14809018]

>>14806176
Absolutely can confirm. Bitch psychiatrist put me on an antipsychotic (Abilify) for my depression. Nearly gave me tardive dyskinesia from it. Freaked me the fuck out and I got rid of the pills immediately, and never used any meds since. Suffering with depression is 100x better than rolling the dice on the off chance some drug fucks your brain in the correct way, when there's a much bigger chance it will fuck it the wrong way.

[Anonymous No.14809463]

>>14809018
I was on that drug during my teen years, when I was suffering from severe anxiety and major depression. No matter how often that drug proved ineffective, the doctor insisted on "up-ing the milligram". Sorry to hear about your struggles - I hope you are doing better.

[Anonymous No.14811485]

Pick one; drugs bad, or drugs good, OP.

Don't just ruin it for the people who find it useful.

SSRI's are not for everybody OP.

But I, personally, find the surjection that it's a placebo, very related to it's experimentation.

[Anonymous No.14811589]

Luvox is the superior SSRI.
Brexpiprazole is the best antipsychotic.

[Anonymous No.14811638]

>>14806129
>You come to society for help, you go to your villages shaman or medicine man for help, you get what they give you
A shaman more tries to use plants / drugs to beat the shit out of you for a night or two until your disease leaves because your body has become too scary for it.
A psychiatrist kind of does the opposite and tries to get you on anxiety / emotion / thought dampening pharmaceuticals so you can take them until you die and not make as much noise in response to your disease.

[Anonymous No.14811998]

>>14806110
Pshychiatrists do not know that most mental disorders are tied to bad gut health, thats why they have no idea how to cure it. And they will never know this, because big pharma makes no money if you cure diseases with diet protocols. So they will never fund any studies to prove this so that the few psychyatrists that are aware of this link cant use diet as a cure without losing their licence.

https://youtu.be/5qcJkvh3Zw8

[Anonymous No.14812013]

>>14811998
So tl;dr I just need to nuke the bacteria in my guts with antibiotics and all my problems will go away?
Sounds pretty based. Fuck bacteria.

[Anonymous No.14812028]

>>14806110
SSRI's are an unproven catch all that probably doesn't even treat the specific problem, but provides a combination of shotgun+placebo effect that reduces symptoms of mental health issues the way a total system depressant like a benzo or barbiturate can help with the symptoms of everything from gastrointestinal problems to muscle spasm to anxiety to dieting to being general anesthesia.
The reality is that we don't understand the mechanisms or pathways for the majority of these actions in our brain chemistry. We're only taking educated guesses at this point in history.

Also, I have spent the better part of a decade in and out of therapy for clinical insomnia and major depression, along with related issues, and literally no psychiatrist or clinical psychologist has started by suggesting I take pills. Every single one has told me, in accordance with the preponderance of literature, that therapy is the primary treatment. Drugs are used to assist with side-effects so that the therapy can be practiced effectively. And this is for everything from clinical insomnia to major depression to suicidal ideation to a generalize thought disorder to anger problems. I do not recommend anything but a controlled and small dose of SSRI for anything, as has been the advice of literally every specialist doctor I have seen regarding mental health issues. If someone starts by recommending pills, they are either not a specialist, a shitty doctor, or broken by the sort of patients that come in to demand pills and file lawsuits when their demands aren't met.

[Anonymous No.14812193]

>>14812013
No the oposit. You need to add bacteria to your gut by eating fermented food, so that your ecosystem recovers