IQ and Depression

[Anonymous No.14805775]

Having high intelligence is bad because it makes you realize how doomed we all are and develop a ton of mental illnesses as a result. CMV

[Anonymous No.14805788]

>>14805775
Wordcels get depression when they realize they got the ersatz kind of intelligence where they understand a lot but can't find their way out of a paper bag and get mogged by people with lower verbal intelligence but higher performance IQ.

[Anonymous No.14805793]

>>14805775
>This is the psyops the churches use to control gifted people into convincing them that the world is evil and they must use their powers to heal it

[Anonymous No.14805826]

what if "smart" people get depressed more often because they're over taxing their brains?

"smart people" do more work in their minds so their minds get exhausted but because they think themselves so smart they don't take the time to recover properly. How would one recover properly? By simply not thinking or thinking less? Wouldn't a mind that' acclimated to high activity be lead to boredom by this? which is cured by thinking of intellectually stimulating things, which just exhausts the mind more?

Maybe the real reason smart people get depressed so much in today's society is because people aren't comfortable with feeling boredom.

[Anonymous No.14805889]

>>14805775
why are you still thinking of sadness and happiness, doesn't fucking matter, i put in the work because i like to do so, my will controls me not some funny chemicals neuron activation shit, happiness and sadness are spooks to sell you products. you think a peasant in medieval europe was "happy"?
fuck off

[Anonymous No.14805958]

This study tried to find a correlation between IQ and life satisfaction, only to find that the number of smarter people are just as likely be dissatisfied, according to the graph. kek

[Anonymous No.14806027]

>>14805788
Cope for overspecialized middle class strivers who feel inadequate when they encounter people with well-rounded, classical intellects. Notice that the person who invented this term is a crypto-adjacent ML "researcher" (retard) currycel, and those that forward it are bay area software engineering rationalist types.

[Anonymous No.14806089]

>>14805775
Nothing but a cope by retards who delude themselves into thinking they're smart. Actual smart people are actually quite happy because they know how to control their happiness.

[Anonymous No.14806128]

>>14806027
>bay area software engineering rationalist types
Yeah, you know, people who get paid for their IQ and who out wordcel the wordcels by getting more hits on their blog than wordcels get for their entire careers publishing papers.

[Anonymous No.14806182]

>>14806128
>Yeah, you know, people who get paid for their IQ and who out wordcel the wordcels by getting more hits on their blog than wordcels get for their entire careers publishing papers.
Software engineers are not any more "paid for their IQ" than any other other form of skilled labor, substacks written by e-celebs are vapid and boring, and you are a midwit

[Anonymous No.14806186]

Other way around. Low IQ leads to povery and sadness. High IQ leads to wealth and happiness. Simple enough for psueds like OP to understand.

[Anonymous No.14806187]

>>14806089
You are wrong, but since you are so smug with your worldview, here are some explanations ;)

High IQ people see fucked up the world is, and they often set loft goals for themselves, and become depressed when they can't achieve their goals.

High-IQ people tend to overthink and overanalyze. A person with average intelligence would simply go pick up a beer; a high-IQ person would ruminate along this straightforward process.

[Anonymous No.14806191]

>>14806186
>High IQ leads to happiness
No, it does not.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289616303324

https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/evolution-the-self/202111/13-reasons-why-high-iq-can-make-you-less-happy

[Anonymous No.14806218]

>>14806089
Ignorance is bliss

[Anonymous No.14806252]

>>14806187
Actually intelligent people know their limits and don't get into depressions over failing something they just couldn't do/aren't responsible for. Making your happiness dependant on these kid of things is just dumb. This is different from someone who is smart getting a lower grade than expected. The difference being that the intelligent person is higher on the Krueger curve than the smart kid.

>>14806191
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-19659985

https://medium.com/@LearningTools/why-highly-intelligent-people-are-happy-c7fbacc83b20

[Anonymous No.14806264]

>>14806252
The first study only takes into account people of IQ 129 max., but it does not take into account of truly intelligent people (for example, IQ of 140). And - surprise, surprise - if you study above average in intelligence people, of course you get happier results. But this study did not take into account extreme levels of IQ, so it is not exactly accurate.

The second study even states that there is a SMALL correlation, so that study's implications are just minimal.

[Anonymous No.14806275]

>>14805775
Rick and Morty-tier worldview

[Anonymous No.14806278]

>>14805775
Ecclesiastes 1:18

Aww, sweet, a demon poster!

[Anonymous No.14806280]

>>14806275
But it is true, though. There are studies that show correlation between IQ and depression, OCD, bipolar, etc.

[Anonymous No.14806283]

>>14806275
Yes, ancient wisdom pilled. What dimension are they from? Oh, yeah, C-137. The 33rd prime number and was detailed in ancient tomes of olde.

Truly a show of the Age, in this, the Age of Aquarius.

[Anonymous No.14806467]

>>14806182
>substacks written by e-celebs are vapid and boring
Classic wordcel cope. The people who matter are the ones making the money. They prefer subtstacks by e-celebs over your "refined" takes that you wasted a decade getting a "classical education" for. All you can do is impotently complain about how rationalists are inventing pseudojargon for topics already covered by philosophy and religion while the world leaves you stuffy pedants behind and in poverty.

[Anonymous No.14806490]

>>14805958
That's not even high iq. I'm 115 and i feel retarded. Chart doesn't even go beyond 110

[Anonymous No.14806492]

>>14806467
Andreesen, Graham, Thiel etc are not the masters of the world nor do they grant as much credence to these people as you think. Also, they send their children to elite private schools, which are distinguished precisely by their more traditional, holistic modes of instruction. Basically you are a retarded slave, and I suspect that you are not that wealthy yourself.

[Anonymous No.14806684]

>>14806490
>Chart doesn't even go beyond 110
Real IQ tests cap at 110

[Anonymous No.14806691]

>>14805775
My iq is 142 and I really enjoy my life
Smart=depressed is midwits deluding themselves into thinking that they must be intelligent because they’re depressed because it’s a classic archetype of literature and cinema

[Anonymous No.14806717]

>>14806691
Your IQ is midwit tier. Mine is 180+ and I'm constantly depressed.

[Anonymous No.14806741]

>>14806187
>>14806218
Keep telling that to yourself pajeet.

[Anonymous No.14806751]

>>14806741
I literally provided evidence that high IQ = depression...

[Anonymous No.14806970]

>>14805775
good news for you is if you genuinely believe this then you don't have to worry about having high intelligence

[Anonymous No.14806981]

>>14806187
>when they can't achieve their goals
probably weren't as smart as they thought
>High-IQ people tend to overthink and overanalyze
midwits

[Anonymous No.14806990]

>>14805775
That's the midwit trap. It's similar to the memed curve of the Dunning-Kreuger effect.

[Anonymous No.14806994]

>>14805775
But the realization that everything is fucked and pointless should set you free and make you happy, you can do whatever you want without any ultimate consequences

[Anonymous No.14807000]

>>14806990
There are studies that show that an increase of intelligence (IQ) results in a correlation of mental illness, like depression, anxiety, OCD, or even disabilities like autism.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289616303324

But since you act so smug with all that 'midwit' jargon, how about some more to show why you are wrong? ;)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3356869/
"The presence of major depressive disorder according to DSM-IV-TR criteria was found in 65% of the 100 children with high intellectual potential."

[Anonymous No.14807006]

>>14805788
severely based

>>14805775
>I am le sad because I am smart. I wish I was dumb so I could be happy
Whoever says that, is definately stupid AF (and sad).
You're not le sad because "muh i know the bad things about the world". You are sad because all you do is masturbate, collect funkopops, no exercise, wake up late, drink/smoke shit, eat shit, and your gf is not even a 4/10 (if you have any). You're a loser who happens to be more cultured and smarter than average.
>B-bbut muh high salary with nice paying job.
Sedentary jobs are bad AF for you physical and mental health.
>But what if it's my dream? What if this job fullfills me?
99% of you people would like to have another job. And the ones who have, still unhappy

Wanna be happier? Don't be dumb
Get /fit/
Marry Stacey
Have children
Get a creative hobby
Get friends
Add some risk in your life (a bit of gambling, fighting, or whatever)
FFS you dead on the inside and you think it is because you are "le smart?"
You think dumb people are happy because le dumb? How about karens? and incels? and /pol/tards, migatards? SJWs? You think they're happy? Those fuckers are close to suicidal + mentally deranged + degenerate AF

ffs academics larping as smart or wise make me vomit

I refuse to elaborate more.
DEVS VULT

[Anonymous No.14807014]

>>14807006
Dumb people aren't happier; average people are. It is oftentimes better to be average.

[Anonymous No.14807020]

>>14807006
See?

[Anonymous No.14807041]

>>14806970
Are you implying that I'm smart, or that I am stupid?

[Anonymous No.14807067]

>>14805775
>Having high intelligence is bad because it makes you realize how doomed we all are and develop a ton of mental illnesses as a result.
This is an ancient midwit cope that speaks to your intellectual insecurity, your lack of accomplishments and your tendency to act like a retard and make your own life worse.

[Anonymous No.14807070]

>>14807000
Psychiatry is a pseudoscience.

[Anonymous No.14807077]

>>14805775
Explain how being highly intelligent equates to making so many negative judgments that you become mentally ill. Protip: you can't.

[Anonymous No.14807118]

>>14807070
based

>>14807077
based pepe poster

>>14807020
Now you're """"""""prooving""""""" that being smart has correlation with being sad. However, it is not the same argument that (OP) uses.
imo, depression is gay AF desu. And habits, discipline, and a good lifestyle can help heal it
>bb-b-but muh papers muh evidence muh debooonking!
stfu
>>14807014
I'm pretty sure that an average office zombie who watches tiktok and netflix on his free time is dead on the inside as well. At least that's what i call average. Dead-end job + zombie lifestyle.

[Anonymous No.14807121]

>>14805775
Bullshit. If you're 160 or over, you realize that the Christian God exists, and you start going to church.

[Anonymous No.14807229]

>iq thread
>ctrl-f midwit
>midwits callling others midwits because they think nobody can be intelligent
always funny

[Anonymous No.14807240]

>>14807121
Weird way of spelling YHWH and synagogue

[Anonymous No.14807242]

>>14806717

that high IQ didn't help the fact you're a cunt though, did it?

[Anonymous No.14808126]

>>14806187
>and become depressed when they can't achieve their goals.
try again
sounds more like a self esteem issue, if you failed then you have some sort of parameters wrong and need to learn from said failure. Intelligent people recognize this and understand they cant always be right the first time, failure is part of the process. Though maybe you can attribute it to wisdom.

[Anonymous No.14808211]

>>14808126
Intelligent people are more likely to suffer from low self-esteem. Just look up the Karpinski study of Mensa members.

[Anonymous No.14808376]

>>14808211
Study of self-selected subset of losers insecure enough to seek validation for their intelligence in a high IQ society?

[Anonymous No.14808454]

>>14807121
I somewhat agree. I imagine it has to do with being so far above day to day concerns for so long that one accumulates several lifetimes worth of exceptional, simulated experiences by middle age. Also having the bandwidth to study scientific disciplines, literature, and the occult leads to recognizing the patterns across them and the elegant, derivative laziness of creation.

The bible makes more sense after a few lifetimes.

[Anonymous No.14808480]

>>14806717
how doomed are we as a species? is drug-induced religious epiphany still our best option?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N7GeSKw9TsU

[Anonymous No.14808593]

>>14808376
And what about this study, huh?
https://medium.com/@LearningTools/why-highly-intelligent-people-are-happy-c7fbacc83b20

[Anonymous No.14809072]

>>14805775
>muh depression makes me smart
You gain nothing by anything besides action. Potential is otherwise wasted.

[Anonymous No.14809099]

>>14809072
There are studies that show that higher IQ leads to depression.

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/drt/2012/567376/
"The presence of major depressive disorder according to DSM-IV-TR criteria was found in 65% of the 100 children with high intellectual potential. It is noteworthy that this high frequency of major depressive disorder was observed in the children with high intellectual potential who came to the CNAHP for psychoaffective problems, but also in the children with high intellectual potential who came to private practice for psychological assessments to skip a grade."

[Anonymous No.14809453]

So... are smarter people happier? Since so many people disagree with me, I'd like to see some studies regarding the idea that happiness are intelligence are positively correlated.

[Anonymous No.14809812]

>>14805775
You must be really happy then.

[Anonymous No.14809815]

>>14807077
Funny how not one of you midwits is ever going to address >>14809099

[Anonymous No.14809822]

>>14809099
>>14809453
Explain how being highly intelligent equates to making so many negative judgments that you become mentally ill. Protip: you can't.
>but muh stoodies show
I don't care about midwitology studies.

[Anonymous No.14809855]

>>14809822
>Explain how being highly intelligent equates to making so many negative judgments that you become mentally ill

Sure. Smarter people make lofty goals, and become depressed if they cannot achieve them. Smarter people are more likely to overthink and overanalyze, resulting in anxiety. Smarter people are often bored due to a lack of cognitive-demanding activities that allow stimulation. Smarter people are more likely to be socially isolated since they like to work alone and think a lot.

[Anonymous No.14809861]

>>14809855
>Smarter people make lofty goals,
What's so smart about setting unrealistic goals?

>become depressed if they cannot achieve them.
What's so smart about getting asshurt? What about reflecting on your mistakes and moving forward in a more productive manner?

>Smarter people are more likely to overthink and overanalyze
What's so smart about indulging in impulsive and unproductive behaviors?

>Smarter people are often bored due to a lack of cognitive-demanding activities that allow stimulation
Why don't they do something stimulating?

>Smarter people are more likely to be socially isolated since they like to work alone and think a lot.
If they don't like being isolated, why don't they spend more time with other people?

See, every single point you bring up is a classic symptom of low intellect. lol. This was truly embarrassing to read.

[Anonymous No.14809870]

>>14809855
>Smarter people make lofty goals
Not smart enough to evaluate their own potential accurately in order to establish feasible goals.
>become depressed if they cannot achieve them
Not smart enough to invest the expected effort into aforementioned feasible goals.
>Smarter people are more likely to overthink and overanalyze
Not smart enough to grasp the futility of excessive rationalizations, especially when there's an absence of concrete evidence.
>Smarter people are often bored due to a lack of cognitive-demanding activities that allow stimulation
Not smart enough to create or seek out stimulating challenges.
>they like to work alone
>they somehow get depressed by working alone
Not smart enough to actually know what they like or dislike.

None of what you wrote applies to actually intelligent people, but rather to impulsive midwits who focus on immediate gratification and lack foresight.

[Anonymous No.14810020]

>>14805826
yeah I think this makes a lot of sense. Also the brain wires itself differently with age and this leads to less organic social interactions, thus a more depressing lifestyle in general.

[Anonymous No.14810022]

>>14806089
Happiness often comes from external factors that intelligence sometimes isn't enough to meaningfully infulence

[Anonymous No.14810027]

>>14805775
>i'm so miserable because i am le smart!!
I've never met a highly intelligent person who attributes their misery to their intellect. I've met tons and tons of midwits and idiots who did attribute their misery (invariably a result of a poor life choices and a shallow, close-minded worldview) to their perceived high intellect.

[Anonymous No.14810057]

>>14808126
>Intelligent people recognize this and understand they cant always be right the first time, failure is part of the process
It's not what the anon was talking about I think. Depression comes up when a person doesn't succeed in much over a certain timespan. It's not about individual mistakes and getting upset over those. In the end I don't think that intelligence leads to depression, but I think many of us live in an environment where having certain types/degrees of intelligence isn't a favourable trait in a selective sense. Like how webbed feet aren't useful in a dry environment.
The out-selection and out-competition is what produces depression.

[Anonymous No.14810062]

>>14807041
he's implying the second one

[Anonymous No.14810068]

>>14806994
>you can do whatever you want without any ultimate consequences
except for prison, murder or accidents

[Anonymous No.14810069]

>>14810057
>Depression comes up when a person doesn't succeed in much over a certain timespan.
If you're so intelligent, why are you shit at everything? Shouldn't you be able to learn from your mistakes and improve? See >>14810027

[Anonymous No.14810083]

>>14805775
I think highly intelligent people are just used to coasting by rather than putting effort into thinking. There are plenty of smart, happy people and most often they are the ones that take the time and effort to reflect on themselves and pursue habits and lifestyles that are conducive to happiness.

[Anonymous No.14810092]

>>14805775
midwits (120-135) are sad because they think they "know" the world is "fucked up" but the truth is that they use reddit too much and that fucks up even the most sane person.
That and the meme that smart people only get along with people 1SD from them

[Anonymous No.14810103]

>>14806490
Midwit.

[Anonymous No.14810121]

>>14809861
>See, every single point you bring up is a classic symptom of low intellect, lol
Actually, some of this was paraphrased from a PhD guy. Here's the link: https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/evolution-the-self/202111/13-reasons-why-high-iq-can-make-you-less-happy

[Anonymous No.14810124]

>>14810121
>makes a weak appeal to authority
>psychologytoday.com
Okay, but everything I wrote still stands. Try again? You're not reacting in a particularly intelligent manner.

[Anonymous No.14810127]

The association between depression and intelligence is a cope by dumb depressos to give them hope.
t. Mensa qualified (but not in their autismo club) and not depressed

[Anonymous No.14810132]

>>14810092
Aside from Reddit I use a lot of 9GAG. There are smart people on both forums. I have linked plenty of sources defending the concept that highly intelligent individuals are more prone to depression. Please see the links in this thread.

[Anonymous No.14810135]

>>14810124
How is it an appeal to authority? How is Psychology Today so bad? The guy has a PhD in psychology - surely he is more reputable than, say, a "midwit"?

[Anonymous No.14810137]

>>14809861
NTA but I'll give my two cents
>What's so smart about setting unrealistic goals?
You're taking his statement too much at face value. Modern society gives you an illusion, from a very young age, that you can achieve anything in life if you put in the work and follow the established order of things. Smarter people realize at a younger age that society is a huge scam for 90% of the people involved, held by duct-tape and spit. So rather than set themselves unrealistic goals, they might set themselves no goal because they see no feasible option in achieveing what truly matters to them (for example, what they like to think about). It's a defeatist mentality and not a healthy one, but it's born of a less than ideal interaction between high intelligence and the skewed balance of society
>What about reflecting on your mistakes and moving forward in a more productive manner?
Faling too many times can lead do being "asshurt". Next you'll tell me that failing too often means low IQ but it simply has to do with feedback processes. A smart person expects to learn from their mistakes by carefully thinking and analysing the situation before making the decision (which leads often to appearing insecure, unassertive etc...) and then reading and evaluating the results, and changing their approach/decision-making based on them. But the world we live in is too chaotic, large, uncaring and individualistic/selfish to give the appropriate feedback. There are multiple types of intelligence and each individual specializes in certain categories and leaves others less developed to compensate (inductive&deductive logic, pattern recognition, verbal intelligence, motor fine-tuning etc...). An individual will learn things more easily within the framework of its more developed intelligence, which in turns means learning from any mistake more easily. There are also instinctive behaviours that arise from this. (cont.)

[Anonymous No.14810139]

>>14810137
(cont)
For example people that are sociable and outgoing generally speaking do not have to think about being the way they are and behaving that way, because their emotional intelligence is very well developed. They learn from any mistake much more seamlessly, and they make less mistakes in that aspect to begin with. Smart people OVERTHINK (again, disruptive behavior) when they encounter a problem their intelligence doesn't favour, like, again, a social interaction. Thus they are more likely to feel frustrated when they fail. They don't receive the feedback they expect. This is what sometimes causes rage and anger when someone behaves more instinctively. Anger is a loss of control, and every man on this planet yearns for control. The smart person seeks it by thinking because it's what he's good at. When thinking doesn't work and the person doesn't receive enough feedback then frustration happens. Frustration births both depression and anger.

>What's so smart about indulging in impulsive and unproductive behaviors?
Overthinking can be seen as the base driving force of people with a certain type of developed intelligence. Self-control can't be absolute because we are still hormonal animals whose neural pathways determine behavior, and those can't be easily changed with just a conscious decision. It's the entire basis behind addiction. I'm not saying smarter people are addicted to thinking, but it's what their brain was developed for.

(cont.)

[Anonymous No.14810141]

charles was a drunk and a midwit

[Anonymous No.14810143]

>>14810139
>Why don't they do something stimulating?
Depends from person to person. I assume most do, but the line between positively stimulating and addiction-inducing can be thin sometimes.

>If they don't like being isolated, why don't they spend more time with other people?
Cause and effect become blurry when you take the entire life of an individual in question. If people around an individual don't like him/her, his/her desire to spend time with others can't be fulfilled.

I don't think that intelligence leads to depression/misery. But it interacts with the environment and society in ways that are hard to predict for any person, parent etc... Like many things in life, it's a matter of luck. But it's true that a smart individual should focus on fixing any mistakes or disruptive behavior that goes on in his life, and the inability to see that in the end most of our problems stem from our life choices (in developed countries at least) is a sign of midwitism.

[Anonymous No.14810144]

>>14810135
>How is it an appeal to authority?
Let's see:
>appeal to authority, or argumentum ad verecundiam, is a form of argument in which the opinion of an authority on a topic is used as evidence to support an argument.
Wikishills said so therefore it's right. :^)

>how is [pop-psych tripe publisher] so bad
We don't even need to get into that. One way or another my points stand undisputed.

>the guy has a PhD in psychology - surely he is more reputable than, say, a "midwit"
>a PhD in psychology
He is a midwit.

[Anonymous No.14810149]

>>14810137
>Modern society gives you an illusion, from a very young age, that you can achieve anything in life if you put in the work and follow the established order of things
>Smarter people realize at a younger age that society is a huge scam
So they should be free from the very thing you claim to be a source of torment for them.

>rather than set themselves unrealistic goals, they might set themselves no goals
But he said they set themselves unrealistic goals. Okay, let's ignore your nauseating dishonesty here and ask: why don't they set themselves some realistic goals instead, if they're so intelligent and aware?

>Faling too many times can lead do being "asshurt"
Why would you fail continually if you're so intelligent? Why can't you learn from your mistakes?

[Anonymous No.14810151]

>>14810132
the studies talk about errors of people in the range of 120-135 (the one i talked about) but smarter people commit those errors less. And a great part of that "depression" comes from the extensive use of social media

[Anonymous No.14810152]

>>14810139
>Overthinking can be seen as the base driving force of people with a certain type of developed intelligence.
How is indulging in unproductive and impulsive behaviors a sign of intelligence? Why do you pretend to be intelligent when your IQ can't be higher than 105?

[Anonymous No.14810169]

>>14810151
So, is the converse true? That smarter people are happier? I posted a graph that challenges my claim higher up in this thread in which it says there's a link between the two, but ...
A) It has a minimal correlation (r=0.5)
B) It only tests from IQ of 70 to 100; we don't know what happens between said IQ-happiness link past 100 IQ
C) If you look closely, the number of people with higher IQ and higher satisfaction is equal to the number of people with higher IQ AND low satisfaction.

[Anonymous No.14810178]

>>14810152
>How is indulging in unproductive and impulsive behaviors a sign of intelligence?
To be fair, overthinking is not a choice. Some of us are naturally inclined to said behavior - we don't really have much of a choice.

[Anonymous No.14810185]

>>14810149
>But he said they set themselves unrealistic goals
I'm not necessarily agreeing with what that anon was saying, but I was interpreting the message he was trying to convey in a way that I find more reasonable. I don't think intelligence leads to people setting unrealistic goals, but the closest to that I think may be happening is what I've explained - idealistic and unattainable goals always floating in the head, no other meaningful goals to compensate
>Why would you fail continually if you're so intelligent? Why can't you learn from your mistakes?
I've explained how learning from mistakes doesn't correlate with high intelligence, it depends on the individual and the problem at hand. For example I'm terribly uncoordinated, so when people teach me to dance and point my mistakes I have a lot of trouble adjusting. Does that mean I'm stupid? I don't think so. I hope you feel the same.
>So they should be free from the very thing you claim to be a source of torment for them.
You need to participate in society to achieve happiness. This is something you seem to be struggling to accept during the discussion. I've explained methods through which an intelligent person may have trouble interfacing with society, and that CAN lead to depression. But it's an indirect causation relationship.
>>14810152
>How is indulging in unproductive and impulsive behaviors a sign of intelligence?
It's not something you can turn off, again as I've explained but it seems you didn't read that far
>Why do you pretend to be intelligent when your IQ can't be higher than 105?
I'm not pretending "anything", and trying to assess the IQ of some other individual online you've never met or seen doesn't make you appear smarter.

[Anonymous No.14810188]

>>14810178
>Some of us are naturally inclined to said behavior
You have not explained how being naturally inclined to counter-productive and impulsive behaviors is a result of high intellect, but either way, if you're so intelligent, why don't you analyze your situation and find a way to stop doing what you're "naturally inclined" to do when it makes your life worse?

[Anonymous No.14810195]

>>14810188
>You have not explained how being naturally inclined to counter-productive and impulsive behaviors is a result of high intellect
it's not a result of high intellect, it's basic brain functionality. Whether the person in question is smart or stupid only changes the modality of the process. Also overthinking isn't inherently a disruptive behavior, but it often is in many competitive environments of the modern world. And out-competition can be a strong cause for depression

[Anonymous No.14810197]

>>14810185
>I was interpreting the message he was trying to convey
And your interpretation says the exact opposite of what his text plainly states. Nice job, retard.

>idealistic and unattainable goals always floating in the head
So what? You don't have to indulge everything that "floats in the head". Intelligent people know this.

> no other meaningful goals to compensate
If you're so intelligent, why can't you figure out what would be a meaningful goal for you?

> learning from mistakes doesn't correlate with high intelligence
It does and the converse is also true: failing to learn from them correlates exactly with low intelligence.

>You need to participate in society to achieve happiness
Many people need to feel like they have some meaningful role to play in their community or social circle. What makes you think intelligent people are barred from this?

>It's not something you can turn off,
It's something you can tone down a lot. If you're intelligent, you're going to realize it and do just that.

[Anonymous No.14810198]

>>14810169
the graph you psted had a pretty small group of people, low correlation and it goes from 70 to 110. It can change a lot even from country to country (more education, opportunities if you are truly smart, loving family...)

[Anonymous No.14810201]

>>14810195
>it's not a result of high intellect, it's basic brain functionality
So you concede that intelligence doesn't cause this. Why even bring it up, then?

>overthinking isn't inherently a disruptive behavior,
It is.

>out-competition can be a strong cause for depression
If you're so intelligent, why would you indulge in this nonsense?

[Anonymous No.14810213]

I will have to admit that you guys are smart - whether I agree with you or not.

[Anonymous No.14810216]

>>14810197
>And your interpretation says the exact opposite of what his text plainly states
You can't seem to catch the subtlety. That anon believes (wrongly, in my opinion) that smart people set themselves unrealistic goals and this can lead to depression. I think what happens is that overthinking people can easily get ambitious because they understand more of the world compared to others and feel a need to influence it somehow, but they know full well it isn't feasible. The frustration can come from the knowldege of the fact, and the lack of meaningful alternative prospects to make up for it (which is indeed an unhealthy lifestyle)
>Nice job, retard.
Why are you getting so upset over this? I'm not insulting you. Even if you think I'm stupid, I've never said or done anything to warrant this hostility.
>You don't have to indulge everything that "floats in the head". Intelligent people know this.
We agree then
>If you're so intelligent, why can't you figure out what would be a meaningful goal for you?
It's less about "figuring it out" and more of an unholy combination of traits like lazyness, arrogance and so on. Even smart people can fall for these, since if they appear at a early age and are never "corrected" they can become ingrained in your very mode of thinking.
>It does and the converse is also true: failing to learn from them correlates exactly with low intelligence.
You're picturing crows dropping stones into a tube of water and failing to see the bigger implications of how intelligence interacts with the complexity and chaos of the world we live in, where many mistakes we make are outside of our prevention and control and where it's often hard to evaluate what steps must be taken to fix that mistake or prevent it from happening again.

[Anonymous No.14810229]

>>14810216
>lack of meaningful alternative
If you're so intelligent, why can't you find a meaningful alternative?

>It's less about "figuring it out" and more of an unholy combination of traits like lazyness, arrogance and so on
So being intelligent makes you so lazy and arrogant that you rather wallow in perpetual misery than put your stellar intelligence to good use and find something meaningful to do with your life?

> the bigger implications of how intelligence interacts with the complexity and chaos of the world we live in blah blah
That's basically a concession. lol

[Anonymous No.14810232]

>>14810197
>What makes you think intelligent people are barred from this?
I've never said they were. But the highly selective and competitive environment of modern industrial/urban/technological societies doesn't necessarily favour people who are good at thinking. it's a feedback loop where the more someone fails and is outcompeted/outselected, the harder it becomes to compensate and turn things around. It's a chicken or the egg situation. If you get positive social feedbacks from a young age, regardless of intelligence, you're more likely to interact positively with others as an adult and in turn you're more accepted. Smarter people can have trouble with that just like stupider people. A smart individual growing up isolated and lonely will have a lot of trouble trying to reconnect with people later in life. Because instinctively we tend to drive away loners and the such.
>It's something you can tone down a lot.
Sounds extremely plausible,
I suppose methods of meditation can help but I've never looked into the matter personally

[Anonymous No.14810237]

>>14810232
>I've never said they were.
Then why did you make that point? They can find a meaningful role to play just like anybody else.

>Sounds extremely plausible,
No one cares what sounds plausible to a half-wit like you. You're only demonstrating my point.

[Anonymous No.14810243]

>>14810229
>If you're so intelligent, why can't you find a meaningful alternative?
you keep pairing things implying a causal connection that isn't there. Your posts are remarks are way too reductionist.
>So being intelligent makes you so lazy and arrogant
no
>That's basically a concession
Of what?
>>14810237
>Then why did you make that point?
here for example
>A smart person expects to learn from their mistakes by carefully thinking and analysing the situation before making the decision (which leads often to appearing insecure, unassertive etc...)
High intelligence can lead to a feeling of loneliness and isolation, and the negative feedback loop I've mentioned earlier starts taking place. But it's not unique to smart people.
>No one cares what sounds plausible to a half-wit like you.
You're positing most of your points as questions, are you for real? Feels like I'm talking to a troll that comes here to bait others honestly. I've given you the benefit of the doubt but you seem unable to have a genuine discussion

[Anonymous No.14810262]

>>14810243
>implying a causal connection that isn't there.
There's no causual relationship between being intelligent and being able to understand the root of your problem and to figure out a solution? Is that how it works in the world of an "intellectual" with a missing pefrontal cortex?

>High intelligence can lead to a feeling of loneliness and isolation
Why?

[Anonymous No.14810276]

>>14810262
>There's no causual relationship between being intelligent and being able to understand the root of your problem and to figure out a solution?
you're just twisting my words at this point, the very reason I've pointed out the lack of causal relationship was because you said
>If you're so intelligent, why can't you find a meaningful alternative?
replying to a post in which i said
>It's less about "figuring it out" and more of an unholy combination of traits like lazyness, arrogance and so on. Even smart people can fall for these, since if they appear at a early age and are never "corrected" they can become ingrained in your very mode of thinking.
You're being disingenuos and then taking bits and pieces of the discussion and implying a meaningless relationships between them. I've never claimed that a smart person can't figure out x, I was explaining why x might happen even to a smart person
>Why?
Literally baiting at this point, or you can't read. I don't claim to hold the absolute truth but you could at least make the effort of reading my posts and finding the answers yourself, or to ask better questions. But again, I'm lead to believe you're a troll who gets off on angering people.

[Anonymous No.14810279]

>>14810276
>you're just twisting my words at this point
So you concede that there is a causal relationship between being intelligent and being able to understand and resolve your problems? If so, why are "intelligent" people in your fantasy universe so afflicted with a myriad of self-inflicted problems that one could and would use intelligence to solve?

[Anonymous No.14810315]

>>14805788
>performance IQ
what a meme

[Anonymous No.14810320]

>>14810279
>>14810201
>so you concede that x
>14810229
>so being intelligent makes x
>>14810149
>so they should be x

[Anonymous No.14810328]

>>14810320
Why are you foaming at the mouth?

[Anonymous No.14810329]

>>14810279
>there is a causal relationship between being intelligent and being able to understand and resolve your problems?
High intelligence correlates to the ability of figuring problems out and setting up a method to solve them. The successful execution of that method isn't dependent on intelligence and too dependant on factors outside of the control of the individual in question. My entire point was how an unfavourable environment can make smart people feel depressed, unlike what you and some others in this thread have been claiming/implying (that smart people are somehow exempt from that lmao)
>why are "intelligent" people in your fantasy universe
you're imagining things that aren't there. I've been describing how certain things can happen and yes they do exist, I'm not describing a specific status quo of the world or an absolute truth. I was debunking statements like this
>None of what you wrote applies to actually intelligent people
>See, every single point you bring up is a classic symptom of low intellect. lol.
>>when they can't achieve their goals
>probably weren't as smart as they thought

this is a reductionist view of the problem. You and some anon in this thread firmly believe that intelligence CAN'T lead to depression/misery/loneliness, and while I agree that a direct CAUSAL relationship between the two things ISN'T there, I've explained (way too much) how an indirect line can be created within the environment we live in
If you can't understand it now I don't know what else to tell you

[Anonymous No.14810333]

>>14810329
>You and some anon in this thread firmly believe that intelligence CAN'T lead to depression/misery/loneliness
to clarify, this is the implication I got from the posts I've read. Could be wrong. But it seems to be the mentality at play here.

[Anonymous No.14810337]

>>14810329
>The successful execution of that method isn't dependent on intelligence
If you're intelligent, you will look for a solution to the problem that you can actually execute. None of the problems you've been pointing out are particularly difficult to resolve.

[Anonymous No.14810341]

>>14810337
>None of the problems you've been pointing out are particularly difficult to resolve.
If most people you meet find you unlikeable, creepy or any other adjective usually aimed towards "loners and losers", how exaclty do you think higher NON-EMOTIONAL (see >>14810139) intelligences can find a solution that "works". It becomes a matter of trial and error and of getting help, both of which are often oustide the control of the individual in question. Again, my entire point is that regardless of one's intelligence depression mostly comes from certain frustrations and inabilities people develop within the modern environment. And even a smart person can suffer from that. The idea that intelligence is enough to escape from that is silly.

[Anonymous No.14810351]

>>14810341
>most people you meet find you unlikeable, creepy or any other adjective usually aimed towards "loners and losers"
Why would being intelligent make most people find you unlikeable, creepy etc.?

> matter of trial and error and of getting help, both of which are often oustide the control of the individual
LOL. Both of these are things someone can do and are thus within their control.

>regardless of one's intelligence depression mostly comes from certain frustrations and inabilities people develop within the modern environment
Intelligent people find solutions to their problems instead of wallowing in misery until they become completely consumed by frustrations.

[Anonymous No.14810363]

>>14810328
>why are you x

[Anonymous No.14810371]

>>14806691
My IQ was last measured at 148 and I'm depressed as hell but it's not because I'm "too intelligent".

[Anonymous No.14810396]

>>14810371
exactly because intelligence and happiness has little correlation. Im 150+ and ive passed though bad times and good times. None of them caused by my intelligence.

[Anonymous No.14810455]

Are you stupid or something? High iq people think more because they are good at thinking. They think even when it may not be good to do so, because they have been rewarded in the past for thinking. Stupid people do not overthink, because thinking rarely rewards them with anything.
This is how everyone works. We are a complex weave of feedback loops. There is no action taken without cause.

[Anonymous No.14810467]

>>14810455
Retards (like you) are stuck in endless cycles of worthless thoughts. Intelligent people think productively.

[Anonymous No.14810473]

>>14810149
This guy is obviously a society drone happily possessed since he was young.

Ignore him, he's a goner and needs to be put down like a demon since he chooses to let the devil work through him. Most runts work like this. Sell their measly soul to the devil.

[Anonymous No.14810475]

>>14810473
Why are you sperging out like a nutjob?

[Anonymous No.14810476]

>>14810473
>This guy is obviously a society drone happily possessed since he was young.
i'm literally the opposite of that but nice guess

[Anonymous No.14810478]

>>14810467
>Intelligent people think productively.
Regurgitate what's already there, but somewhere else you mean.

[Anonymous No.14810479]

>>14810478
No, I mean they (unlike you) are capable of self-reflection and problem-solving.

[Anonymous No.14810482]

>>14810475
>>14810476
Oh look the demons are out to cry otherwise. Surely their lashing out will make people think different of them. No, it doesn't work you turds.

[Anonymous No.14810486]

>>14810479
Capable of regurgitating and acting on the obvious.

Yeah, ok. Intelligent people surrender to the world of obvious. They ain't clever. They get things done, but live a dull life.

[Anonymous No.14810490]

>>14810486
You sound like you're having some psychiatric crisis. The sad thing is that you're the one regurgitating the most slate, most midwit-friendly cultural tropes.

[Anonymous No.14810494]

>>14810490
What have you got to show for your life then? What you read out of a book written by some old dead cunt?

[Anonymous No.14810501]

>>14810467
>productivity makes you happy
(you)

Thoughts cannot make you happy. Nor can actions. Fulfilling your desires makes you happy, for a while. Not fulfilling your desires makes you unhappy, until your fulfill your desires. It's a loop. You are no happier at the end than at the start. You are a dog chasing your own tail.

[Anonymous No.14810502]

>>14805775
Ignorance is Bliss. There's times when it works as a good thing, and there are times it works against you.

[Anonymous No.14810510]

>>14810490
I take it yes, you're just a consumer and an 'intellect' who read books from old dead cunts.

Bravo. Fucking give this cunt a medal.

[Anonymous No.14810514]

>>14805775
> According to Charles Bukowski
Why would you listen to an alcoholic? Actually his alcoholism is the key to both why he thinks so and why he's wrong.

[Anonymous No.14810518]

People live in la la land. That's it. Reality is mega dull. Scientists are just as delusional as anyone else.

[Anonymous No.14810519]

>>14810501
>>productivity makes you happy
Who are you quoting?

>Thoughts cannot make you happy. Nor can actions
Where did I say they can?

>You are a dog chasing your own tail.
Why are you projecting?

[Anonymous No.14810531]

>>14810519
>Who are you quoting?
You fucking retard, greentext can be anecdotes.

[Anonymous No.14810538]

>>14810531
>You
But I never implied anything to that effect. Who are you quoting, retard?

[Anonymous No.14810540]

>>14810538
What a seriously dumb cunt.

>Intelligent people think productively.

>>productivity makes you happy

If you can't see the two relations then you need to get off /sci/, quit your STEM job (if you even have one), quit your STEM course (if you're even on one) and go play animal crossing. Now.

[Anonymous No.14810549]

>>14810540
>uhhh but you used the world "productively"
So what? You know, pretty much the only reason I keep posting ITT is to trigger reactions from clinical retards like you. You're doing a good job illustrating what kind of people believe in this retarded intelligence=>depression trope.

[Anonymous No.14810550]

>>14810540
>>Intelligent people think productively.
this is a miopic generalisation. There are too many factors that can make this untrue

[Anonymous No.14810551]

>>14810550
You're addressing the wrong person. Every single one of you is demonstrably a low IQ cretin. See >>14810549.

[Anonymous No.14810554]

>>14810549
>pretty much the only reason I keep posting ITT is to trigger reactions from clinical retards like you
kek
>>14810243
>>14810276

[Anonymous No.14810556]

>>14810549
Awh poor logical man needs pin point material to understand people.

Dumb cunt. Don't enter a STEM job, college or a university. You're just another run of the mill retard who thinks his brain is like a mega computer.

Go watch your anime faggot.

[Anonymous No.14810559]

>>14810551
>You're addressing the wrong person
The statement I quoted I first saw here >>14810501
and I don't know "who" to address for that

[Anonymous No.14810561]

>>14810556
Why are you chimping out? Show me where I said that "productivity" makes you happy.

[Anonymous No.14810562]

>>14810559
>I don't know "who" to address for that
That's because you're a clinical moron, like everyone else who shares your opinions. This is honestly funny. The idiocy is like clockwork.

[Anonymous No.14810572]

>>14810561
Wow this guy is desperate to prove how retarded he is.

Think productively, so they think on what to create for themselves and the world.

Thinking is just thinking, means fuck all. You never said "and put into action these productive thoughts".

So go suck a dick faggot.

RETARD.

Get murdered. I would murder you. Can I have your house address?

[Anonymous No.14810574]

>>14810562
No, it's because that anon put that statement as a quote to a post that didn't have that statement. So I've addressed that statement in a vacuum regardless of which of the two believes it true
If you're too stupid to understand that, that's on you. i honestly find it funny how you spend time on this website trying to "dunk" on people you perceive as stupider than you so that you can feel smug about yourself

[Anonymous No.14810577]

>>14810572
>Think productively, so they think on what to create for themselves and the world.
How about:
>Think productively, so they think on how to stop making themselves miserable

[Anonymous No.14810583]

>>14810574
>I've addressed that statement in a vacuum
Addressing someone who disagrees with it instead of the person who stated it, even though it's trivially easy to find the person you actually wanted to address. lol. You are unironically low-IQ and your mindless, thought-terminating cliche matches your general incompetence. Calling something a "generalization" doesn't make it any less true. Try again.

[Anonymous No.14810595]

>>14810583
>Addressing someone who disagrees with it instead of the person who stated it
who stated it?
>even though it's trivially easy to find the person you actually wanted to address
who stated it?

[Anonymous No.14810606]

>>14810595
I did, right here:
>>14810467
Even if you're too dumb to follow the reply chain just a little to see the context of the conversation, it's not that hard to select the text and hit CTLR+F, but the thing is that you were too dumb to see that the person you were addressing was actually disagreeing with the statement. lol

[Anonymous No.14810612]

>>14810577
Then say that you blithering retard in your >>14810467
post.

You then act surprised >>14810519
:

>Who are you quoting?

Do you like to create scenarios where you can question people's intelligence by making yourself vague and in your mind go "YOU DUMB YOU CAN'T SEE MY POINT"? Or are you too dumb to express your thoughts clearly?

[Anonymous No.14810616]

>>14810612
Why are you chimping out? Does your tardwrangler know you're posting on 4chan again?

[Anonymous No.14810618]

>>14810606
I read that, but the two statements aren't the same
so i was correct into addressing that statement in a vacuum
The first mention of that statement is the post I linked above

[Anonymous No.14810624]

>>14810612
>Do you like to create scenarios where you can question people's intelligence by making yourself vague and in your mind go "YOU DUMB YOU CAN'T SEE MY POINT"? Or are you too dumb to express your thoughts clearly?
why are you getting upset? he outright confirmed he's a troll

[Anonymous No.14810627]

>>14810618
>intelligent people think productively
>intelligent people think productively
>not the same statement
See what I mean? Anyone who thinks like you is either a mouth-breathing retard, a violent chimp like >>14810612 or an r/rickandmorty regular.

[Anonymous No.14810633]

>>14810624
>why are you getting upset?
He's getting upset for the same reason you're getting upset: LARPing as a depressed "intellectual" on the internet is all you have in your miserable midwit life and I am ruining your fun by exposing you for the mongoloid that you are.

[Anonymous No.14810637]

>>14810627
yes it was my mistake, the second statement
>productivity makes you happy
is what I couldn't find a source of (there isn't any). You claimed the first one many posts ago.

[Anonymous No.14810639]

>>14810633
>LARPing as a depressed "intellectual" on the internet
I like to discuss all aspects pertaining to humanity, I'm not larping as anyone

[Anonymous No.14810647]

>>14810637
That other statement isn't what you quote in this post: >>14810550
At what point does a mouth-breathign inbred like you simply acknowledge his mistake and stop digging himself deeper into the hole?

[Anonymous No.14810650]

>>14810639
>I'm not larping as anyone
Then why are you so emotionally invested in this nonsensical trope? Are you the same retard who kept shitting out this diatribe? >>14810329

[Anonymous No.14810653]

>>14810627
>>14810616

>Intelligent people think productively.

Still can relate to >14810501 :

>>productivity makes you happy

UNLESS you made it clear, which you have now: >Think productively, so they think on how to stop making themselves miserable >>14810577
To what you said: >14810467 , You see, retards can be stuck in cycles of worthless thoughts AND also Intelligent people can think productively, the two statements can be seen separately. Thinking productively can also imply someone's mind misfiring and JUST having productive thoughts that create things not suited for his welfare. IT CAN BE SEEN AS THAT. But your intelligence is much far too low to see that version of your words.

So, yeah, explain yourself better. Because your comments can be slandered in ways unsuspecting to you otherwise; unless you define your thoughts better.

You fucking giant pussy.

[Anonymous No.14810655]

>>14810647
>That other statement isn't what you quote in this post
I know, I assumed the person I was quoting believed in both since I couldn't find a source for the second one. then I got confused when you said I addressed the wrong person.
>>14810559
>simply acknowledge his mistake
I literally did

[Anonymous No.14810660]

>>14810650
>Then why are you so emotionally invested in this nonsensical trope?
Why do you think I'm emotionally invested? I just like discussing stuff like this and I only get to do that here.
> Are you the same retard who kept shitting out this diatribe?
Don't call it that if you can't disprove what I've said

[Anonymous No.14810665]

>>14810655
The sheer amount of mental gymnastics you will do is staggering. Putting aside your inability to keep track of a conversation on an anonymous baord, your objection is still retarded. Intelligent people think productively. Calling something a "generalization" doesn't refute it. Try again.

[Anonymous No.14810679]

>>14810665
>Putting aside your inability to keep track of a conversation on an anonymous baord
I didn't read every new post when i got back on my PC.
>Intelligent people think productively.
not always. It's not a mathemical truth. And it's not enough to disprove the notion that smart people can be depressed. You seem to think I agree with the original statement
>High IQ leads to being depressed
but it's not true. All I was doing was exploring the methods through which that may happen, but I don't consider it a mathematical truth. Which is what would be required for the mindset
>If I'm depressed it's because I'm smart
>If I'm smart I'm bound to become depressed
to be true.
It CAN happen, and I've tried explaining why. You just kept deflecting with miopic questions

[Anonymous No.14810690]

>>14810660
>Why do you think I'm emotionally invested?
Because you keep camping this thread and trying to intervene when I'm not talking to you. lol

>you can't disprove what I've said
Let's recap your portrait of an "intelligent" person:
>doesn't apply his intellect for any conventional goals
>doesn't apply his intellect for any personal goals
>doesn't apply his intellect to solve any of his own problems
>doesn't apply his intellect in any observable way
>repeatedly fails at his pursuits
>doesn't learn from mistakes
>lazy and arrogant
>creepy
>unlikeable
>not a shred of concrete evidence of intelligence
>i'm intelligent b-b-b-because i just am, okay?
>it's not expressed in any way because society bad
This is an intelligent person according to you. You will lie about in your next post, but I will link back to the posts where you said all of those things over and over and bludgeon you with it.

[Anonymous No.14810697]

>>14810679
>It's not a mathemical truth.
Good job figuring that one out, retard. My point still stands unchallenged.

[Anonymous No.14810702]

depression is just camouflaged narcissism

[Anonymous No.14810711]

>>14810702
In midwits it is.

[Anonymous No.14810715]

Intelligent people yet they have nothing that can be considered ground breaking in their life or anything different from normal functioning of an adult. Such major headlines from them. Not.

[Anonymous No.14810718]

>>14810690
>This is an intelligent person according to you
I wasn't describing an "intelligent" person. I was describing social and psychological processes that can lead even an intelligent person to feel depressed. Or sad. Or miserable. Or whatever you want to call it.
>doesn't apply his intellect for any conventional goals
>doesn't apply his intellect for any personal goals
I said that being intelligent can potentially lead to unsatisfaction due to unfeasible, idealistic goals and the lack of fulfillment derived from mroe banal ones. You're injecting a different meaning into my explanation
>>doesn't apply his intellect to solve any of his own problems
I said the opposite
>>doesn't apply his intellect in any observable way
This is an observation of yours
>>repeatedly fails at his pursuits
yes, you can repeatedly fail at something even if you're smart. Being smart doesn't mean you are good at running a marathon. You can fail a marathon multiple times even if you're smart
>>doesn't learn from mistakes
A smart person can feel frustrated from not learning from his mistakes specifically because they tend to learn more easily from them in most circumstances. It's like a kid who always gets what he wants and then cries when he doesn't get it. i've never claimed this behavior to be a positive one
>>lazy and arrogant
He can be, sure. Intelligence doesn't exclude those two traits
>creepy
>unlikeable
A person who spent much of his formative years isolated, lonely or rejected will easily appear like that when older, again regardless of intelligence
>>not a shred of concrete evidence of intelligence
What's "concrete evidence of intelligence"? Are you still thinking about crows and the water displacement experiment?
>>i'm intelligent b-b-b-because i just am, okay?
I barely talked about myself
>>it's not expressed in any way because society bad
What's "not expressed"? The person? His intelligence?
You misunderstand my words and inject your headcanon into them to feel superior

[Anonymous No.14810722]

>>14810718
Didn't read any of it. Try samefagging and replying to your own post to save face.

[Anonymous No.14810724]

>>14810711
if any highly intelligent people are depressed then they aren't highly intelligent people

[Anonymous No.14810725]

>>14810724
this is the kind of absurd statement that is just untrue not matter what way you look at it
>>14810333

[Anonymous No.14810730]

>>14810722
I say these things because I like to say them. I don't care if you indulge me or not. As long as you give me a chance of replying that isn't a total waste of time I'll do it (even though 4chan is a waste of time in of in itself)

[Anonymous No.14810732]

>>14810724
You're right. Only the unintelligent will dispute this. :^)

[Anonymous No.14810734]

>>14810730
>i enjoy churning out shallow diatribe that no one reads
Yep, that sounds like something a high IQ individual would do.

[Anonymous No.14810743]

>>14810734
I've never claimed to be a IQ individual. Why do you keep insisting?

[Anonymous No.14810748]

>>14810743
I never claimed you were one. I'm just saying you sound like one, based on your behaviors and habits.

[Anonymous No.14810749]

>>14810748
>based on your behaviors and habits
these being?

[Anonymous No.14810754]

>>14810749
See >>14810734 for example. Anyway, you sound extremely intelligent, so I bet you know how to tie a noose. You did practice your nooses, didn't you anon?

[Anonymous No.14810766]

>>14810754
There aren't any mooses where I live

[Anonymous No.14810812]

Alright dumb fucks, just post iq and move on

[Anonymous No.14810816]

>>14810766
meese*

[Anonymous No.14810904]

>>14810732
kekekekkeekk

[Anonymous No.14811071]

>>14805775
>>14806278
Ecclesiastes 1:9

Nothing ever changes. This thread is not new and neither the ideas in it. It was already thought up long ago, and even long before that, and even long after now.

[Anonymous No.14811498]

Intelligent people overthink, so life is more difficult.

If I wanted to grab a beer, I'd simply go and get it. An intelligent person, on the other hand, would have thoughts and zipping throughout their mind as they go and grab said beer. It is harder for intelligent people to do straightforward tasks because of this.

[Anonymous No.14812217]

what if you're smart, but instead of being a 5'9" neurotic jew with some horrible genetic, you're also a 6'2" aryan chad who enjoys his status as the perfect human specimen? Then you wouldn't be miserable.

[Anonymous No.14813052]

>>14805775
>According to

[Anonymous No.14813059]

>>14805775
Get over it pussy, Bukowski was a wet brained weakling. As a genius, there exists a cusp that you can overtake.