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14797617 No.14797617 [Reply] [Original]

what's going on, /sci/bros?
is there any chance this is vax-related?
last time I was paying much attention, scientists, though having some ideas involving certain PF4 antibodies and other stuff, had no conclusive explanation for how the non-mRNA vaccines were causing TTS fatal clots in some cases and how the mRNA vaccines were causing myocarditis/pericarditis in some cases. have they gotten to the point where they understand virology/immunology/vaccinology enough to offer a conclusive explanation?
personally, I've had only some minor effects after the vaccine that may or may not be attributed to it: I lost one and a half testicles and have experienced some peripheral demyelination that causes tingles. nothing really major, but I know others are reporting worse.

>> No.14797625

>>14797617
>is there any chance this is vax-related?
At minimum 50% of them are vax-related.

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>>14797617
>is there any chance this is vax-related?
I'll try to give you a non-schizo answer to balance out most of the other posts incoming to this thread and will point out that A) people were putting off seeing doctors (especially for non-essential routine checkups, but also even for real problems they noticed but kept to themselves) during the meme flu scare for fear of getting infected and dying and B) doctors themselves were refusing to see patients unless absolutely necessary.
Those two factors combined mean you might expect at some point a spike in medical problems across the board once people resumed seeing doctors and getting diagnosed with diseases.

>> No.14797642

>>14797635
>once people resumed seeing doctors and getting diagnosed with diseases.
So cancer can only kill you after your doctor has diagnosed it?

>> No.14797645

>>14797642
If you aren't diagnosed with cancer and die it might not be listed as your cause of death.

>> No.14797649

>>14797642
>>14797645
Also yes, treatments can kill people. Especially aggressive cancer treatments like brain surgery. Or sometimes people effectively commit medically condoned suicide by checking into a hospice after diagnosis and ODing on morphine.

>> No.14797652

>>14797645
But it will still kill you. The discussion is about all-cause mortality, not cause of death.

>> No.14797657

>>14797635
It's impossible for that many untreated conditions to result in death now instead of during the "pandemic." Illness doesn't wait.

>> No.14797659

>>14797652
>>14797657
The overall is compared to a five year average. So we might want to see the comparison to 2020.
If 2020 was also elevated but with different causes of death registered then that would support the diagnosis suggestion.

>> No.14797709

>>14797617
vaxcatle btfo

>> No.14797797

>>14797652
>The discussion is about all-cause mortality
>>14797617
Deaths caused by Bells Palsy and female infertility? Right

>> No.14797807

>>14797635
>schizo
Post discarded

>> No.14797816

>>14797617
>is there any chance this is vax-related?
100% chance, according to the math.

>> No.14797909

>>14797816
100% chance it will be ignored until they can pin it on Trump.

>> No.14797935

>>14797909
You think it will work? People will just forget all the pain?

>> No.14797940

>>14797935
I think they already are. Did you see the article about the FDA blaming Trump for "rushing" the vax? The goybox is already telling people it's his fault their jab is killing them.

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>>14797617
Good. Overpopulated planet. Cull the weak and useless.

>> No.14797945

>>14797940
Doesn't mean it will work.

>> No.14797954

>>14797909
I know Dembot messaging is truly odious in its 180s, but I don't think it's powerful enough to pull that off. It can't even rescue the Biden administration from circling the drain. That article the other day saying that Trump tried to speed up the vaccine release was a flop because, as it notes, Trump was unsuccessful, and the Dembot delayers got their way. Even Nate Silver, a partisan hack, said that the politically motivated delays made Dembots look bad. Plus, there are too many "safe and effective" blue-checkmark data-cruncher egos at stake to go along with the Dems' reversal. They're just way too invested.

>> No.14797965

>>14797944
Ah, the rarely seen face press.

>> No.14797966

>>14797954
I hope you're right and they're forced to fall on their swords. We're battling grug retardation with stubborn midwit persistence.

>> No.14798034

>>14797944
Fuck I'm so hard.

>> No.14798048

>>14797659
>>14797652
This is true. If we see an overall increase in *all cause* deaths in 2021, but the total death rate remains at the same level of 2020, then that would suggest Covid might have been causing or accelerating the deaths of ill people and it wasn't recorded, but put under Covid. Now that people are going back to doctors, the mortality is going back to all cause.

Simply saying there was an increase in all-cause mortality isn't enough information and that's disingenuous because it doesn't say anything about the total mortality rate. If the same number of total people are dying in 2021 as 2020, then that's a complete nothingburger imo.

>> No.14798072

>>14798048
The death rate among young vaxies is getting so high that insurance companies are quietly arranging their ducks to sue the feds or get a bailout.

>> No.14798087 [DELETED] 

>>14797617
1. Lack of heavy metals.
2. That nestle made chemical that can override the body's attempts to regulate the absorption of iron.

>> No.14798096

>>14797617
1. Lack of heavy metals.
2. That nestle made chemical that can override the body's ability to regulate the absorption of iron.

>> No.14798102

>>14798096
Lack of heavy metals?

>> No.14798126

>>14797944
is she die?

>> No.14798158 [DELETED] 

>>14798102
They are essential nutrients, they got it all wrong. Alnost all the arthropods on land are gone died from the malnutrition.

>> No.14798162

>>14798102
They are essential nutrients, they got it all wrong. Alnost all the arthropods on land are gone died from the malnutrition. They have different internal organs and it seems their hepatopancreas fails without a rather big amount of cadmium.

>> No.14798202

>>14797944
Would

>> No.14798221

I'm a pure blood so don't care, no refunds

>> No.14798242

>>14797625
I never took the vaccine, or wore a mask.
But sssuming the data is skewed and doesn't account for diagnosis not happening due to covid, perhaps cancer and bells palsy could genuine be nothing to do with the vaccine.

Im being impartial because if we're going to expose the evil in our world we have to be honest and truthful, because if you lie in any capacity it will taint your credibility.

>> No.14798330

>>14797617
>The overall age-adjusted death rate increased by 0.7% in 2021 from 2020.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7117e1.htm

Where the hell do they get 40% from?

>> No.14798332

>>14798072
>quietly
Isn't that convenient? "It's true but if you Google it you won't find anything because it's a secret "

>> No.14798335

>>14798330
>cdc
Might as well cite the North Korean government on North Korean political prisoner death rates.

>> No.14798339

>>14798335
Who are they citing for the 40% number?

>> No.14798342

>>14798339
The screen shot says whistleblowers from the DoD. I don't know if that's true or not, but your nonhuman, botlike responses are funny.

>> No.14798348

>>14798342
Ohh, whistleblowers from the DoD. Because the DoD monitors how many people die of random shit. Well, whistleblowers from the DoE told me your mom is a whore.

>> No.14798350

>>14798348
>Because the DoD monitors how many people die of random shit.
It does. Are you going to shit out more mindless bot reactions?

>> No.14798356

>>14798348
>Well, whistleblowers from the DoE told me your mom is a whore.
Is this the best WEF jannies were instructed to do?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFszbyNpZEU

>> No.14798359

>>14798350
>I read this thing online
>every piece of information contradicting it is a lie
>everyone who tells me contradicting information is a robot

>"The distinction between a delusion and a strongly held idea is sometimes difficult to make and depends in part on the degree of conviction with which the belief is held despite clear or reasonable contradictory evidence regarding its veracity."[1]
If it's not a delusion, what kind of hypothetical evidence would convince you that the 40% are not true?

>> No.14798362

>>14798359
I'm not even talking to you about whether or not it's true. I'm talking about your nonhuman drone reactions: you've shown that you will shit out cope before you're even done reading the information, and that you will shit out cope even if it's trivially false (the DoD does keep track of employee health).

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14798373

>>14797617
>bro the covid death numbers are totally inflated
>bro these lost covid death numbers are totally accurate
>bro look at this murder rate damn

>> No.14798377

>>14798359
>>14798373
>samebot

>> No.14798381

>>14798362
>I'm not even talking to you about whether or not it's true
Because truth means nothing to you schizos.
>the DoD does keep track of employee health
And that's not public? We need a whistleblower for that?

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14798382

>>14798377

>> No.14798383

>>14798381
So back to the subject of your fully automated, non-human kneejerk reactions. What's causing this? Could it be that you're brainwashed?

>> No.14798386

>>14798381
>>14798382
>1 minute apart
Exceptionally stupid and impulsive samebot.

>> No.14798387

>>14798383
>I don't need to confront the truth if I dehumanise everyone who contradicts me :^)

>> No.14798388

>>14798387
Why did you respond with mindless cope before you were even done reading? Why did you respond with more mindless cope after getting called out?

>> No.14798395

>>14798388
>after getting called out
>what? You show how I lie compulsively to protect my delusion ? Well, that means I'm calling YOU out :^)

>> No.14798399

>>14798395
You didn't know where the data came from because your Pfizer program kicked in before you were even done reading. Then you tried to cope by denying that the DoD keeps track of employee health. Then you tried to cope further by implying all of this data is public information, which it isn't and couldn't be. Now you're just down to fully generic spam. You are subhuman and violence will be used against you because you can't be reasoned with.

>> No.14798405

>>14798399
>violent towards unreasonable but non violent
>violent towards reasonable but violent
>bro only some people are algorithmic
>bro god didn’t make the world
>idiots bro so stupid fuck
>subhuman animals bro what do we do about them
>bro surely we can just delete them right
>in gods world wait a second was my every moment designed
>am i just a leaf in the wind
>is everything just a big cope
>are rich people really that stupid
>wait a second what’s going on here
>no not like this no no
>i want to be selfish and independent no come on let me have it my turn when me me me me me me
so smart
i got you? the fucking cops are, again, 4 times this week, busting my neighbors door in, at 5am, useless, 0 arrests, wake me up and flash lights in my room for no reason

>> No.14798407

>>14798399
>more ad hominem
>defending numbers some conspiracy theorist pulled out of his ass because they support your delusion
>any even remotely critical question is being answered with insults and personal attacks
>the only point is "my numbers are not falsifiable or verifiable, all other numbers are made up and everyone except me is a computer program"

You're spiralling. If you can't face any critical questions regarding your sources, you shouldn't be on the internet kiddo.

>> No.14798409

>>14798405
Now you're really losing your mind. In any case, why do you feel an irresistible compulsion to act as Pfizer lawyer before you're even done reading? Also why do you spew lie after lie desperately trying to cope? This isn't normal human behavior.

>> No.14798410

>>14798407
See >>14798399 and >>14798409
Your nonhuman behavior is overt and alarming.

>> No.14798416

>>14798410
>see my personal insults from a few minutes ago
No, m8 that's not now it works. This is /sci/, not /pol/

Less ad hominem, more hard facts. It is untrue that the number of all-cause deaths increased by 40%, the official numbers show 0.7%, no other country reported 40% or anything close

>> No.14798422

>>14798416
> hard facts
The hard fact is that you're a mindless bot who starts his amateur deboonking attempts before he's even done reading the information he's trying to deboonk, not to mention the sloppy cope you shit out in a desperate attempt to dimiss something you can't refute.

> It is untrue that the number of all-cause deaths increased by 40%
Prove it.

>official numbers show 0.7%
No one cares what Pfizer numbers show.

>> No.14798428

>>14798409
>gaslighting
>believes in hierarchy
keep suffering buddy, it’s only a matter of time
whether you like it or not we are all in this together, and it’s not up to you how it goes
because the vaccine is irrelevant and you need it to be something, your existence is predicated on antithesis

>> No.14798429

>>14798428
Genuinely not sure if you're a schizo or just a literal bot.

>> No.14798431

>>14798422
>Prove it.
I did, you keep confusing the center for disease control with a private pharmaceutical company.
If I look up the other numbers you'll also claim that they are fake. There is no way to convince you because you are literally delusional. You value "some anonymous source told me, trust me bro" above the agency whose task it is to track and report those numbers.

>> No.14798433

>>14798429
>more ad hominem
>still no hard facts
>still no explanation why not a single country in the world reports that 40% increase
>health ministries all around the world are slaves to an American pharmaceutical company

>> No.14798434

>>14798431
>I did
By referencing "data" from the people potentially responsible for the 40% increase you're trying to dispute? LOL. Try again, mouth breather.

>> No.14798436

>>14798429
listen buddy you’re trapped in a world of pain, schizos are just on a path beyond your understanding, and technically we are all bots
stop existing in contrary to something, and find something to live for for yourself
the vaccine isn’t your problem, being capable of self governance is

>> No.14798437

>>14798433
I don't know what your psychotic schizoramble is about. You're certainly not refuting anything, or even attempting to.

>> No.14798438

>>14798436
Meds.

>> No.14798439

>schizos
>meds
>subhumans
i’m so confused dude you want schizos to be medicated but normies can’t take the vax? have you considered your worldview is perfectly backwards and normies are schizos who need their meds while schizos are normies who are off their meds and it’s you who can’t reconcile this contradiction?

>> No.14798446

>>14798439
You're a bad schizo so you get the big pharma chemical lobotomy. Only good schizos will be tolerated. :^)

>> No.14798451

>>14798446
i’m glad it’s your opinion that dictates how the world is run ^_^

>> No.14798454

>>14798451
No, you're unironically glad that people like Fauci's handlers run it. lol. Just kill yourself already.

>> No.14798458

>>14798454
you think people run this world retard? you will never and neither do they
it’s written in gods book and you’re struggling to understand that’s fine you’re brainwashed and selfish
you don’t lead anything but yourself and yourself is lead by god
if you kneel to nothing you are nothing you are only that which exists above you to which you aspire
for you, this is obsessing over people like fauci as if they made any decision that influenced anything ever
they don’t, and you believe they do because you need to believe you do
you don’t
grow up

>> No.14798463

>>14798458
>fauci's handlers are my gods

>> No.14798465

>>14798458
>schizo
as if your brain was wired to reject anything it didn’t like
as if you were fucking programmed into eternal seethe
you choose every bit of suffering you experience, the vaccine is ineffective because the day you die is written in a fucking book and there’s no choice you get to make about it and i’m tired of pretending otherwise with baby ducking retards clinging to their temporary
life begging for control
open your fucking eyes you choose your suffering not other people you are responsible for your suffering not others
you are not capable of self governance and we are all stuck with babysitters until you do

>> No.14798468

>>14798463
the handlers of faucis handlers etc is god it is you who are either incapable or unwilling to recognize this

>> No.14798478

>>14798468
>>14798465
>it's okay if psychopathic pedos run your society and dictate public policy
>god wills it
How many jabs?

>> No.14798482

>>14797617
>what's going on, /sci/bros?
Fake news. The numbers in your pic are pulled out of nowhere. 40% increase in excess deaths were between 18-64 and are mostly due to COVID.

https://www.newswise.com/factcheck/the-inference-that-a-40-percent-increase-in-the-death-rate-of-americans-18-to-64-is-caused-by-vaccines-is-baseless/?article_id=765301

>> No.14798485

>>14798482
>links to a """factcheck"""
LOL. It's like you shills are not even trying. I guess I wouldn't be trying very hard, either, for 30 cents an hour.

>> No.14798488

>>14798485
>FACTCHECK REEEEEEEEEE
Not an argument. Thanks for admitting it's fake news.

>> No.14798491

>>14798488
How come your first reaction to "fake news" is to link to a propaganda website? lol

>> No.14798523

>>14798434
You trust a literal "trust me bro" claim from some random guy. Ask yourself, is there anything that would sway your mind? If there isn't, you're just psychotic and bot rational. There are always things that would convince a rational being that their beliefs are wrong. If I tell you that I can make it rain by dancing in a specific way and I can repeatedly show you that it works, you can do a statistical analysis and you should believe that rain dances work. If you keep believing rain dances don't work even if I show you they do, you're crazy.

Obviously that hasn't been shown, so it's safe to believe rain dances are bullshit. But if you can't possibly be convinced otherwise, you're a zealot and not a scientist.

>> No.14798527

>>14798523
>You trust a literal "trust me bro" claim
Why are you lying? I'm just highlighting your nonhuman drone behavior.

>Ask yourself, is there anything that would sway your mind?
Ask yourself why you're more concerned with shitting out cope and changing my mind, than with finding out whether it's true or not.

>> No.14798534

>>14798491
>propaganda website
What a sophisticated analysis of the quality of this website.

>> No.14798537

>>14798534
Everyone knows it's true, yourself included. It's just that somehow you've been memed into the idea that it's not propaganda if it dissaminates the "right" narrative.

>> No.14798538

>>14798527
>Why are you lying?
So you don't trust the 40% claim?

>finding out whether it's true or not.
It's not. Not a single one of over 190 countries in the world observes a mortality increase of 40%.

>> No.14798541

>>14798478
>the world can’t be run by god because there is evil in the world
you are this stupid

>> No.14798544

>>14798491
Attacking the source is still not an argument. Thanks for confirming it's fake news. That was easy.

>> No.14798545

>>14798538
>It's not.
Prove it instead of shitting out mindless cope. Protip: you can't.

>> No.14798547

>>14798544
I'm not "arguing" anything. I'm just asking why you trust a propaganda website and why I'm expected to do the same.

>> No.14798549

>>14798545
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7117e1.htm

>> No.14798554

>>14798549
Why do you keep linking back to the claims of the accused?

>> No.14798556

>>14798547
>I'm just asking why you trust a propaganda website and why I'm expected to do the same.
Huh? I don't trust the propaganda website in the OP, that's why I looked for what other sources said and found out that it's full of made up numbers and misrepresentations of the original claim. No one asked to trust OP's propaganda site. You're confused.

>I'm not "arguing" anything.
Right, you agree that it's fake news.

/thread

>> No.14798558

>>14798556
>I don't trust the propaganda website in the OP
Okay.

>that's why I looked for what other sources
Why did you look up another propaganda website?

>> No.14798562

>>14798554
Prove that the CDC numbers are wrong.

>> No.14798563

>>14798562
Why would I need to?

>> No.14798566

>>14798563
Because you accuse them of lying. You must have proof that they are lying.

>> No.14798575

>>14798566
>you accuse them of lying
About this in particular? I didn't. Notice how desperate your deflections are getting.

>> No.14798579

>>14798545
Germany: +3.9%
https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/156902/umfrage/sterbefaelle-in-deutschland/
Switzerland: -6.5%
https://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/de/home/statistiken/bevoelkerung/geburten-todesfaelle/todesfaelle.html#-1232994831
Austria:
- something, too lazy to calculate. Single-digit percentage.

No country in the world sees an increase of 40%.

>> No.14798581

>>14798575
>About this in particular? I didn't.
So you're saying that their claim of an increase of 0.7% is true?

>> No.14798583

>>14798579
>the people potentially responsible for crimes against humanity would definitely tell the truth about their oopsie so you should trust them
You seem to be mentally ill

>> No.14798587

>>14798583
>responsible for crimes against humanity
Prove your accusations.

>> No.14798588

>>14798581
I'm saying I don't care what they claim because they'd be saying the same thing in any case. You seem to be severely retarded.

>> No.14798590

>>14798587
Why do I need to prove anything? LOL. You're really losing your mind.

>> No.14798598

>>14798590
You're making claims and you seem pretty insistent that you're not delusional.

>> No.14798599

>you’re a schizo
>no, you’re a schizo
>you’re losing your mind
>you lost it forever ago
>you were born with an illness
>you are the illness

>> No.14798603

>>14798599
>BoTh SiDeS

>> No.14798617

>>14798598
>You're making claims
What claims am I making? Why do you keep shitting out psychotic deflections?

>> No.14798623

>>14798617
That the CDC is potentially responsible for crimes against humanity. That the mortality in the USA increased by 40% in just a year.

>> No.14798626

>>14798623
>That the CDC is potentially responsible
>potentially
Yeah. That's a given in the context of this thread. Anything else?

>> No.14798632

>>14798558
>Why did you look up another propaganda website?
I don't know what you're talking about. If you want to say that anything I posted is propaganda, I suggest you give an argument instead of just repeating "propaganda" over and over. It makes you look incompetent.

>> No.14798635

>>14798632
I don't need any "arguments" to point out a given fact: your factchecking corporate narrative is propaganda by definition.

>> No.14798636

>>14798623
>That the mortality in the USA increased by 40% in just a year.
It did not. Mortality =/= excess deaths.

>> No.14798638

>>14798626
Try again without circular reasoning, please. You're saying
>that number is 40
>those who say it's 0.7 are lying
>because they are evil
>because of the context of this thread (because 40% more people died?)

>> No.14798639

>>14797657
2021 WAS during the pandemic

>> No.14798640

>>14798638
I didn't say the number is 40. Why do you keep lying?

>> No.14798642

>>14798636
>There was an unexpected 40% increase in 'all cause deaths'
The claim wasn't about excess deaths.

>> No.14798641

>>14798635
>I don't need any "arguments" to point out a given fact
You need an argument to show your claims are facts.

>your factchecking corporate narrative is propaganda by definition.
What definition is that?

>> No.14798648

>>14798641
I don't need to show that your corporate factcheck narrative is propaganda any more than I need to show that North Korean public broadcasting is propaganda. The more you double down on this denial, the more people see that you're nonhuman and that you can't be reasoned with, so I will keep coaxing you into doing it over and over.

>> No.14798650

>>14798648
>corporate factcheck narrative
Rambling. Still without any facts or arguments.

>> No.14798651

>>14798648
>I don't need to show that your corporate factcheck narrative is propaganda
Right, you can just fail to prove your claims and let everyone know you're a liar. What was that definition again?

>> No.14798652

>>14798650
I accept your full concession. Corporate media """facthecks""" are propaganda by definition.

>> No.14798655

>>14798651
See >>14798652
I don't acknowledge your humanity or any of your "rights" and a good 40% of the population feels the same way. Sooner or later you will be dealt with.

>> No.14798660

>>14798652
What's corporate? And why is it bad?

>> No.14798663

>>14798660
I didn't say being a brainwashed corporate drone was "bad". I'm sure you and your buddies think it's good. I'm just pointing out that you are one.

>> No.14798664

>>14798655
So you admit you lied and can't even define propaganda. Thanks for agreeing with me that the claims in OP are fake news.

/thread

>> No.14798668

>>14798664
>can't even define propaganda.
Here's what Oxford says:
>information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
As you can see, corporate """factchecks""" fall squarely in that category.

>> No.14798672

>>14798668
>corporate
What makes something corporate?

>> No.14798674

>>14798672
Worthless deflection. I've just shown you how your trash is propaganda according to the standard definition. The only thing you can do is try to unironically argue that corporate media is unbiased. LOL

>> No.14798675

>>14798674
You didn't show
>biased or misleading nature

>> No.14798679

>>14798675
So you're actually going with the "corporate media is unbiased" narrative. Good. Keep demonstrating why physical force against you is necessary and acceptable.

>> No.14798681

>>14798575
You are mentally retarded

>> No.14798682

>>14798681
Why are you getting mad? I didn't say your psychopathic handlers are necessarily lying about this. I just know they're liars in general and I don't see a reason to trust them to admit their oopsie. You're subhuman if you do.

>> No.14798684

>>14798682
I'm not anyone who you're talking to, nor am I mad, I'm just pointing out the obvious

>> No.14798685

>>14798684
You're extremely mad as evidenced by your pointless impulsive reactions.

>> No.14798687

>>14798679
You're reasoning in circles again.
They're biased because they're corporate and they're corporate because they're biased.

>> No.14798691

>>14798687
I'm not "reasoning" with you at all. I'm just highlighting that your position revolves around the idea that corporate media is unbiased. I don't need to argue anything. This is what your side actually believes and no further commentary is needed.

>> No.14798700

>>14798691
>I don't need to argue anything.
You seem to argue quite a lot considering you don't need to :^)

>> No.14798706

>>14798700
Is corporate media unbiased?

>> No.14798715

>>14798706
Yes.

>> No.14798717
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14798717

>>14798715
I see. Alright.

>> No.14798718

>>14798048
Will this help the analysis?
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/excess-mortality-in-england-and-english-regions

>> No.14798734

>>14797635
>A 300% increase in cancer because some people put off seeing a doctor
This has to be the dumbest far fetched rationalization I've seen. You need hard evidence to speculate on such a massive spike. This is nothing more than a mainstream media shill response.

>> No.14798738

i want a bot that identifies bot posts

>> No.14798741

>>14798734
>This is nothing more than a mainstream media shill response.
Shut up, schizo. Strokes in children are normal and SADS is caused by global warming.

>> No.14798762

>>14798734
>A 300% increase in cancer
Does no one here actually doubt these claims???

>> No.14798766

>>14798048
>an overall increase in *all cause* deaths in 2021, but the total death rate remains at the same level
Apart from the population growing, how can "all cause deaths" and "death rate" diverge?

>> No.14798770
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14798770

>>14798762
>Does no one here actually doubt these claims???
Why should I doubt these claims?

>> No.14798791

>>14798770
Right, it's a screenshot from a noname news outlet, it must be true. I s

>> No.14798795

>>14798791
I don't know if it's true, but why should I be so motivated to doubt it?

>> No.14798797

>>14798795
Why should you be so dumb to believe it?

>> No.14798802

>>14798797
Who said I believe it? I am willing to entertain it given the massive amount of other evidence against your handlers.

>> No.14798803

>>14798802
>given the massive amount of other evidence against your handlers.
Say what?

>> No.14798804

>>14798803
Yeah. Does this upset you?

>> No.14798807

>>14798804
What handlers? What evidence? There's a lot of evidence against OP's bullshit in this thread alone.

>> No.14798814

>>14798807
>There's a lot of evidence against OP's bullshit in this thread alone.
Show me.

>> No.14798817

>Op: Some outrageous claim
>/Sci/entists: well maybe it this?
Every single time.

Real scientists: where is the data?
Source?
Who are “several US insurance companies?”
Why does the DoD have insurance code information?
Who are these whistleblowers and did they file an actual whistleblower suit (making them legal whistleblowers), or are they just calling themselves that for attention?
Who the fuck is KUSI and Alex Burenson, some sensationalist Sinclair News propagandist, I'd bet?
Where is the data and the methodology? Is it published where it can be checked?

If you learn nothing else here, let it be skepticism.

>> No.14798819

>>14798817
>If you learn nothing else here, let it be skepticism.
Okay. Let's apply some skepticism: why are you getting all up in arms over OP? Why should I do the same?

>> No.14798820

>>14798814
See
>>14798330
>>14798579

>> No.14798822

>>14798820
There's no reason to trust "data" from potential criminals against humanity trying to cover up their oopsie. Anything else?

>> No.14798850

>>14798822
What do you mean potentially? That potentially crimes against humanity were committed? Or you know that this happened and the CDC might be behind it? And the Swiss government? And the Austrians? And the Germans? And the French? And the English?

>> No.14798858

>>14798850
>What do you mean potentially?
I mean we are considering this possibility, and you are trying to refute it. You can't refute it using data from the same entities that are potentially involved in causing countless deaths. They would undoubtedly try to cover it up and their data would look exactly like what you're trying to shill here. lol

>> No.14798890

>>14797617
>is there any chance this is vax-related?
covid related more like
>40%
kek

>> No.14798909

>>14798858
>I mean we are considering this possibility
The possibility that every single government on the planet is in on this? No we're not considering such schizo shit.

>> No.14798917

>>14798909
>The possibility that every single government on the planet is in on this?
They're all "in on this" merely by virtue of forcing it on their populations. Whether they did so knowingly or unknowingly is irrelevant. If it turned out that they did a big oopsie, they'd all be falsifying data like mad and trying to cover their tracks so your worthless appeal to personal incredulity proves nothing. Try again.

>> No.14798923

>>14798917
>Whether they did so knowingly or unknowingly is irrelevant
They have an increase in dying people of 40% and unknowingly report forged numbers? Not a single government accidentally released the true data? That must be the biggest conspiracy ever. You think NASA needed many people to fake the moon landing?

>> No.14798925

>>14798923
They would knowingly and intentionally report false numbers. Why are you losing your mind?

>> No.14798935

>>14798925
All of them? The kiwis? The Dutch? No one accidentally released the true numbers? The only whistleblowers are from the DoD of all places? No CDC employees? No people from other countries?

>> No.14798936

>>14798935
>All of them?
Yeah. Why wouldn't they? If it's between getting lynched now or trying to fake data and potentially getting lynched later, they'll go for later.

>> No.14798959

>>14798936
>Why wouldn't they?
That's not how to tackle scientific problems, chud. You can start like this, but then you need to provide proof. Why wouldn't antihydrogen experience gravity differently? Let's look at some data. No one would be like you and just assume it's true "because why not"

>> No.14798964

>>14798959
>you need to provide proof
I don't need to provide proof of anything. You are trying to refute something, but all the "evidence" you bring forward is perfectly consistent with the scenario you're trying to refute. Try again.

>> No.14798977

>>14798964
>You are trying to refute something, but all the "evidence" you bring forward is perfectly consistent with the scenario you're trying to refute. Try again.
Literal young earther logic.
>G-D buried those dinosaur bones to test our faith
Your theory is not falsifiable and therefore irrational.

>> No.14799014

>>14798977
>Your theory is not falsifiable
Then why do you keep desperately trying to falsify it with retard-tier talking points? lol. Nevermind that it's falsifiable in a million different ways, but it's just funny to watch a drone contradict itself over and over.

>> No.14799022

>>14799014
I was hoping that you were a rational adult human, not a religious nutjob.

>Nevermind that it's falsifiable in a million different ways
Name one.

>> No.14799034

>>14799022
>I was hoping that you were a rational adult
Are you sure it's rational to keep trying to falsify something while simultaneously claiming it's unfalsifiable? Are you just gonna keep shitting and pissing all over yourself like this? lol

>Name one.
You could check to the data in question and check if it really implies a 40% increase, for instance.

>> No.14799041

>>14799034
>You could check to the data in question and check if it really implies a 40% increase, for instance.
They didn't publish any data :^)

>> No.14799043

>>14799041
That's your problem. It's clearly falsifiable.

>> No.14799052

>>14799043
>it's falsifiable with the data
>there's no data and it's your problem

>> No.14799057

>>14799052
Are you saying the data doesn't exist? How did you become this mentally ill and obsessed?

>> No.14799063

>>14799057
It's not posted in the article OP screenshotted. Do you have it?

>> No.14799065

>>14799063
>It's not posted in the article
So? You genuinely sound mentally ill.

>> No.14799091

>>14799065
Where's the data?

>> No.14799097

>>14799091
Ask the DoD.

>> No.14799101

>>14799097
So you don't have it either? :^)

>> No.14799106
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14799106

>>14799101
Nope. So what? "Unfalsifiable" doesn't mean "I can't falsify it" or "you can't falsify it". It means no one can falsify it, but in any case, here's your position so far:
>i can't falsify this therefore it's unfalsifiable, which is why i keep trying to falsify it and foaming at the mouth when you dismiss my attempts

>> No.14799113

>>14799106
So you admit neither you, nor I can falsify it? You admit that it's some bullshit claim that you gullibly believe?

>> No.14799115

>>14799113
>So you admit neither you, nor I can falsify it?
Yeah. Why do you keep claiming that something falsifiable is unfalsifiable, and why do you keep trying to falsify something you claim you can't falsify?

>You admit that it's some bullshit claim
I don't know if it's bullshit or not. I'm willing to entertain it.

>> No.14799119

>>14799115
>It's totally falsifiable but only the rabbi is allowed to

>> No.14799121

>>14799106
here's your position so far:
>i have no data

>> No.14799123

>>14799119
>>14799121
Why are you losing your mind?

>> No.14799126

>>14799121
He does. It's the data of the CDC though. But the government is evil and fakes all their data, so we should trust the data of the DoD which we don't have and maybe doesn't even exist. He also has data of several other countries that all don't show +40%

>> No.14799129

>>14799126
Why are you losing your mind and arguing with imaginary people in your head? Why are you patting your own sockpuppet on the back?

>> No.14799130

>>14799123
We're just making sure that you can earn your borscht, tovarich. Do you get money per (You)?

>> No.14799133
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14799133

>>14799130
>"""we"""
>muh russian boogeymen
And there we go. So much for trying to refute anything, I guess.

>> No.14799134
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14799134

>>14799123
>thinks two replies 27 seconds apart are from one person
>accuses them of losing their mind

>> No.14799135

>>14799134
You are losing your mind whether you're a samebot or not.

>> No.14799136

>>14797642
Correct, doctors are bad

>> No.14799140

>>14799133
i like how this Ukraine thing has exposed most of the antivax crowd as politicized and gullible idiots

>> No.14799143

>>14799133
You having that picture ready confirms that your a Russian shill. Don't you have a war to lose?

>> No.14799144

>>14799135
>everyone who disagrees with me is a robot

>> No.14799145
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14799145

>i like how this Ukraine thing has exposed most of the antivax crowd as politicized and gullible idiots

>> No.14799148

>>14799145
Oh no he puts a picture of an ugly person next to my text. That means I am the ugly person.

>> No.14799149

>>14799145
That's the final level of cope, when they switch to citing you and posting pictures of npc wojaks. You shills always follow the same protocol, don't you?

>> No.14799152
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14799152

>>14799148
>>14799149

>> No.14799156

>>14799152
Oh no he said we are all grey bald people with an emotionless expression. This makes me sad.

>> No.14799159

>>14799152
Did we really skip the greenext phase and you can only post wojaks?

>> No.14799163
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14799163

>>14799149
looks like it is a common thing lol. gets called out and then dumps his wojak folder.

>> No.14799168

>>14799163
It's even the same filename. What do you think, is it the same guy or do they get the same material?

>> No.14799175

>>14798734
>You need hard evidence to speculate on such a massive spike.
This is an anime fan website you idiot, not a medical research symposium.
Also convenient how the speculation you don't like needs hard evidence but the speculation that supports what you want to believe doesn't.

>> No.14799179
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14799179

>>14798717
>>14799152
>>14798399
>subhuman
>>14798682
>subhuman
It's always the same pattern.

>> No.14799188
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14799188

>>14799168
same guy

>> No.14799194

>>14799188
>Jun 5
I find it incredibly sad to think that this guy has spent three months posting lies and wojaks on /sci/.

>> No.14799201

>>14798819
Faggot shill kys.

>> No.14799207

The bot has abandoned the thread. I'm betting
10€ that a new antivaxx or climate change denial thread will pop up within minutes.

>> No.14799219
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14799219

>has no evidence >>14799188
>accuse others of being samefag (pic)
>gets called out and dumps wojaks >>14799163
exactly the same as this thread kek. may be an actual shill.

>> No.14799248
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14799248

>>14799219
I think it's a mentally ill person, not a shill. For a shill he is too active on non-political threads
>>/sci/thread/14784885#p14786704
>>/sci/thread/14777408#p14780848
>>/sci/thread/14770191#p14770747
>>/sci/thread/14764474#p14766790

>> No.14799336

>>14797617
>I've had only some minor effects after the vaccine that may or may not be attributed to it: I lost one and a half testicles and have experienced some peripheral demyelination

You call those minor issues? Did they exist at all prior to the vaccine?

>> No.14799342

>>14798762
Why would a random image on 4chan lie about death rates?

>> No.14799367
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14799367

>leave thread
>come back later
>see how much the mindless Pfizer drones having an absolute meltdown over me
Delicious. Look at how they seethe over their inability to refute anything.

>> No.14799397
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14799397

>>14799367
It's funny how you literally are what that image depicts.

>> No.14799420

>>14799397
It's funny how you think your 100% generic "no u" drone replies make you look like less of a drone.

>> No.14799461
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14799461

>>14798458
Psalms 2 says that the leaders and rulers of earth have set themselves apart and wish to cast themselves asunder from God and His anointed. They work for the devil. It's also implied in Matthew 4.

>> No.14799470

>>14799420
How many of these are written by (You)?
>>/sci/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=drone

>> No.14799482

>>14799470
Like 20% and most of them are from this thread. Why are you so obsessed with me? I should start using recognizable pics with every post instead of just the one-liner shitposts. You would lose your mind and have a stroke if you saw what else I write. I love how much this is getting under your skin.

>> No.14799519

>>14799482
>You would lose your mind and have a stroke if you saw what else I write.
I would totally lose my mind. Is it 9to5? Do you get extra money for working on Sundays? Or are you just a schizo NEET?

>> No.14799551

>>14799519
Go dumpster-diving in the archives for some of my other posts. I'm sure you'll find something eventually that will make your imaginary audience see just how dumb I am and how right you are. You're gonna cancel me so hard. Everyone will clap and you'll get reddit gold. :^)

>> No.14799621

>>14798817
>Why does the DoD have insurance code information?
Because they pay for their employees health insurance (VA benefits).

>> No.14799674

>>14799621
And as a receipt for the payments they receive internal documents that are simultaneously top secret, so only some whistleblowers have access to them?

>> No.14799683
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14799683

>>14799674
>ummm sweaty, if it's not top secret than it's publicly available information
What causes mentally ill drones to behave like this?

>> No.14799695

>>14799674
It's not top-secret lmao. But it's health information, which has its own privacy practices under HIPAA.

>> No.14799697

>>14799695
It knows. It will simply move the goal post again. It isn't human.

>> No.14799699

>>14799683
Like clockwork

>> No.14799710

>>14799699
Yep. I will not stop shitting and pissing all over you until you stop posting your drone shart.

>> No.14799711

>>14799699
The drone deflects from the truth because it has no programming for it.

>> No.14799724

>>14799683
>46345.jpg
Did your employer choose those file names for you?

>> No.14799741
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14799741

>>14799724
>t.
Please tell me more about "my employer". Is he in the room with us?

>> No.14799759

>>14799741
>>/sci/image/WI5uIalvEF8rmLmifTfNcw

>> No.14799766
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14799766

>>14799759
See >>14799741 and >>14799551

>> No.14799770

>>14799759
>a common wojak means everyone is the same person
This is the absolute state of the vaxie. No comment on the data, just mindless babble.

>> No.14799775

>>14799766
Seriously though. Those are not typical filenames from 4chan.

>> No.14799776
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14799776

>>14799770
Most of those posts are actually mine and the drone is losing his mind over it.

>> No.14799781

>>14799775
Yeah, those are my posts. So is your imaginary audience convinced yet that I should be cancelled, you impotent little kike, or are you obsessing for nothing? :^)

>> No.14799782

>>14799770
>No comment on the data, just mindless babble.
The only data ITT has BOPTFO and schizo "vaxx kills you" anon says that he doesn't believe anything

>> No.14799788

>>14799781
>racism
And here we go, /pol/ transformation complete :^)

>> No.14799789

>>14799782
The OP has been proved correct over and over. Go get your 5th booster. Maybe that one will save you from SADS.

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14799795

>>14799788
>complaining about racism on 4chan
Hitler should have finished the job.

>> No.14799805

>>14799789
>proved correct over and over
Where?
>>14799795
>violating the global rules
Chud, this is a blue board.

>> No.14799811

>>14799805
>Chud
Figures.

>> No.14799812

>>14799805
Your tribe is hated as much on blue boards as on any other board.

>> No.14799824
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14799824

>>14799812

>> No.14799851
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14799851

>>14799824
>keep /pol/ in /pol/!!!
>that's why i keep shilling and bumping a literal /pol/ thread all day

>> No.14799881

>>14799851
>shilling
No
>bumping
Also no, but announcing that would also violate global rules
Also, every comment brings it closer to autosage which is the only way to get rid of those /pol/ threads. You keep bumping them from page 10 otherwise (yes, I know it's you, your filenames give it away)

>> No.14799888

>>14799881
Kikes are more hated than ever in real life. It's like watching a prelude to the 4th reich. Does it make you uncomfortable that anyone you meet can see what tribe you belong to? Are you planning a plastic surgery? Have you changed your name to a goy name yet?

>> No.14799895

>>14799888
>more racism
True colours I guess

>> No.14799901

>>14799895
>t-t-true colors!!
As if I ever tried to hide my disdain for long parasitical race.

>> No.14799905

>>14799901
Racism still isn't allowed on 4channel.

>> No.14799910

>>14799895
Like it or not, 'crypto jews' have been poisoning goys with vaccines for a long time. And to a crypto you're just another goy. Circumcision is a ritual castration of their clerical slave caste.

>> No.14799927

>>14799905
Maybe you should become a janny, then. I hear they have a special quota for jews if you show them your Israeli passport.

>> No.14799975

>>14797642
you might also get treatment in time if you get a diagnosis early enough, but die with a late diagnosis

>> No.14799978

>>14798668
How is the factcheck I posted biased or misleading?

>> No.14800014

>>14799824
How is vaccine efficacy and mysterious statistical anomalies in deaths not /sci/?

I'm tired of seeing threads with real sources deleted just because /pol/ also talks about them. Medicine is /sci/. Statistics is /sci/. Reporting these threads just because the science is inconvenient goes against everything that has made 4chan what it is.

>> No.14800119

>>14797617
WE WERE RIGHT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDaqNgOsw6M

>> No.14800329

>>14800014
"There's data but we aren't allowed to see it, just trust me, even though it contradicts ever piece of data out there. They're all lying and forging data, every single one of them, except the DoD people talking to Kusi TV which are totally real and not made up, even though Kusi spread dubious stuff on Covid in the past"

>> No.14800415

>>14800329
Whenever we show you the data you shill until the bump limit or get a janny to delete the thread.

>> No.14800802

>>14799163
>>14799179
Numbers-filename, "subhuman" guy is one of the best posters on this board. I've had some run-ins with him because I'm not a Christcuck, but he's highly skilled at getting on the nerves of soience boys and mainstream-narrative pushers. A positive force overall, imo.

>> No.14801006

>>14800802
I agree on all counts.

>> No.14801141

>>14797635

>a non-schizo answer

>A non-schizo answer is outright ignoring the possibility experimental substances people were coerced into shooting up over the past 2 years might be playing a role in excess deaths.

>It is schizo-tier to acknowledge the vaccines might be playing a role.

Scientism. Not even once.

>> No.14801311

>>14797617
>had no conclusive explanation for how the non-mRNA vaccines were causing TTS fatal clots in some cases and how the mRNA vaccines were causing myocarditis/pericarditis in some cases
I was going to get the jab until I saw that. The fact they can't even nail down precisely what causes it takes away any reassurance of "hrrrr, this stuff is rare." It reveals a fundamental lack of knowledge.

>> No.14802059

>>14801141
>It is schizo-tier to acknowledge the vaccines might be playing a role.
Play a role in what? Baseless claims? Nothing plays a role in made-up numbers.

>> No.14802509

>>14797617
The amount of shills in here is ridiculous. The brits just posted their excess death numbers and they are 10-12% higher than they should be for the entire population.