/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.14783153]

James Webb, I kneel.

[Anonymous No.14783157]

>>14783153
We already know all there is to know about Jupiter, it should be looking to the early universe instead.
Why are astronomers wasting the James Webb's lifespan to take "pretty pictures"? I fucking hate it

[Anonymous No.14783159]

>>14783153
Is that aurora by the poles?

[Anonymous No.14783161]

>>14783153
i dont understand this shit how is this anything that i havent seen a million times already???

can only imagine the hidden pictures theyve taken with this thing, am i the only one who remembers about that torus orbiting ganymede??

[Anonymous No.14783163]

if we had a solar lens swarm telescope on our star's orbit we would've been able to image exoplanets in this resolution

punt a bunch of bfr's on there, they open up into slices, revealing the mirrors, point at the sun and then just image every exo in line of solar sight. Viola, city lights on Buttfucknowhere 4, Jungle splotches on Toxicshithole 3.

[Anonymous No.14783168]

>>14783159
yes

[Anonymous No.14783199]

>>14783163
The distance to close exoplanets to earth is at least 100.000 times more than from jupiter to earth. So it would be a sub-pixel size light dot.

[Anonymous No.14783211]

>>14783199
just make a 100k times larger telescope

[Anonymous No.14783255]

>>14783157
it's the "incremental science" meme

this is a direct consequence of bureaucrats and women taking over science

[Anonymous No.14783459]

there are far better pics of Jupiter than this, taken by the Juno mission.
Webb a shit

[Anonymous No.14783471]

>>14783153

EEEEEEEEEEE

https://youtu.be/vMffAMIlPYE

[Anonymous No.14783475]

>>14783255
Cope and seethe, incel.

[Anonymous No.14783478]

>>14783157
because Webb has discovered something so terrifying about the early Universe that its classified and will never be released to the public.
shut up and enjoy the jupiter pics

[Anonymous No.14783515]

>>14783153
Didn't it get destroyed by an asteroid? How can it be making pictures? Also, it didn't have an optical light camera.
10 billion dollars and no optical light camera.
Hmmmm.

[Anonymous No.14783526]

have we actually learned anything from this telescope? whenever I look it up I just get generic info and the stuff we "will" learn, but so far it seems it's just been pretty pictures?

[Anonymous No.14783539]

>>14783211
basically, just take the sun-lensed light from a hundred sliced up rocket payloads. I don't buy thwe muh not enough nonsense, we're already getting data on the atmospheres on exos

[Anonymous No.14783661]

I know this is a bait thread but there goes my comment, nevertheless... It needs more time. Done.

[frenanon No.14783677]

>>14783153
I can't afford a home.

[Anonymous No.14783693]

>>14783526
Yes but only far away galaxies. Pics of Jupiter are stupid.
It basically discovered galaxies where the big bang model said they should not exist

[Anonymous No.14783717]

>>14783526
its just destroyed the careers of hundreds of cosmologists.

[Anonymous No.14783819]

So, it failed to take any nice pictures so its just made to take mediocore pics from jupiter

[Anonymous No.14783825]

>mogged

[Anonymous No.14783831]

>>14783717
>Citation needed

[Anonymous No.14783846]

>>14783693
The discovery that galactic rotation curves defy relativistic gravity models did not destroy a single career amongst the astrophysics community and this will not either, they abuse the peer review process to insulate themselves from criticism and they will all continue to have pointless, wasteful, unproductive careers as intellectual frauds with fancy titles.

[Anonymous No.14783926]

>>14783471
Kek

[Anonymous No.14783935]

I want to see Saturn's hexagon.

[Anonymous No.14784166]

>>14783846
Like the old quote says: Science advances one death at a time.

[Anonymous No.14784176]

>>14783846
>The discovery that galactic rotation curves defy relativistic gravity models did not destroy a single career amongst the astrophysics community
Why should it?

[Anonymous No.14784424]

>>14783935
They're more interested in obsessing over the BBC of the Solar System, unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.14784491]

>>14783157
>We already know all there is to know
This is why you're not a scientist

[Anonymous No.14784495]

>>14783935
>>14783153
Could it take some new pics of neptune or is it too far way? The last pics came from voyager

[Anonymous No.14784502]

>GUYZ IF YOU PUT CHARCOAL UNDER THE ROCKET WILL IT TURN INTO DIAMOND LIKE IN MINECWAFT?
Youtube commenters are something else

[Anonymous No.14784517]

>>14783153
yesss, let's show pretty pictures to distract from the fact that our established cosmology is in shambles

[Anonymous No.14784568]

>>14783153
what are they ACTUALLY using webb kun to see??

[Anonymous No.14784583]

>>14784568
various private nude beaches

[Anonymous No.14784623]

>>14783478
Actual picture of God (he's a White man with a beard).

[Anonymous No.14784628]

>>14783846
you dont throw the proverbial baby out with the bath water

[Anonymous No.14785476]

>>14783157
They snapped Jupiter during the setup process but hey, you already know everything.
You should let the webb team know immediately

[Anonymous No.14785534]

>>14783153
J(W)ST

[Anonymous No.14785536]

>>14783157
SOVLLESS

[Anonymous No.14786227]

>>14783539
yeah but that atmosphere crap is something different mate. they use spectrography to see what element absorbs the light of their sun, and for that you'd only need a single pixel or not even that basically. you just take the light reflected off the planet's atmosphere, put it through a prism, and see the absorbtion lines right away. I'm no scientist but that is common knowledge.

[Anonymous No.14786336]

>>14783157
he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.14786370]

>>14783478
W-what did they see?

[Anonymous No.14786386]

>>14783153
It's photoshopped... because it has to be™

[Anonymous No.14786392]

>>14786370
t-t-t-t-tt-t-tt-t-t-t-t-t-t--t-t-t-t--t-t-tt--t-t-they saw aliesn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111

fucking retard, aliens are a government hoax

[Anonymous No.14787443]

>>14783157
>20 years of lifespan left
>1 hour spent imaging Jupiter is too much

[Anonymous No.14787452]

>>14783717
>According to a single butthurt cosmologist who had been making the same exact claims for years.
I knew science media was shit, but it astounded me how many outlets bought this story (bought as in the actual copy off a service, it's all the exact same text using the exact same sole source).

[Anonymous No.14787484]

>>14783157
Have you seriously not heard?

[Anonymous No.14787492]

[Anonymous No.14787545]

>>14783153
Flatlands really was alluding planets being higher dimensional being after all.

[Anonymous No.14787569]

>>14783677
You can afford a home, but not yet a home

[Anonymous No.14787610]

>>14783153
its just a marble

/thread

[Anonymous No.14787641]

>>14787484
I know - James Webb confirmed we're living in a planetary zoo, and everything outside the solar system is fake. Might as well look at Jupiter now.

[Anonymous No.14787650]

[Anonymous No.14787654]

[Anonymous No.14787658]

[Anonymous No.14787756]

>>14787545
Worldsouls (a newish book)
The God Factory (older book yet new yet good yet ugh)

[Anonymous No.14788310]

>10 trillion dollar telescope
>no visible spectrum
>gay ass colours

[Anonymous No.14788327]

Hey anons, why didn't the James Webb team put in a visible light sensor next to the IR sensor? I get why a visible light telescope can't image in the IR spectrum (everything has to be cooled down to ridiculously low temps to reduce noise), but not why an IR telescope can't take images in the visible spectrum.

[Anonymous No.14788339]

>>14788327
Every Gram Counts
Space Are Hard

[Anonymous No.14789652]

>>14783825
That's not an image.

[Anonymous No.14789752]

>>14783153
Why doesn't it do a closer zoom?

[Anonymous No.14789762]

>>14783153
Railroad petri dishes

[Anonymous No.14789765]

>>14788327
Because it's a multi-billion-dollar boondoggle where literally nothing was made on-time and to spec. The lucky thing is the instruments it does have are blowing out mainstream cosmologists as hard as they can be.

[Anonymous No.14789795]

>did you know that hell is a planet?

[Anonymous No.14790431]

>>14783199
try reading what he wrote before responding next time

[Anonymous No.14790435]

>>14789652
if i right click it it says "save image as"

clearly it's an image

[Anonymous No.14790462]

>>14789795
Even sounds like hell

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh2-P8hG5-E

[Anonymous No.14790682]

>>14787756
very kill
plz suicide posthaste

[Anonymous No.14791990]

>>14790435
It's an image generated by a 3D computer software package rather than an unedited image taken via digital photography.

[Anonymous No.14792227]

>>14791990
his point still stands, it's an image
also, in this case, it's just as much a result of digital photography as anything else
all "editing" is based on the raw data itself, so it's no less digital photography than the other photos of Jupiter posted here

[Anonymous No.14792251]

[Anonymous No.14793490]

Why is it blue?

[Anonymous No.14793524]

>>14792227
He didn't make a point, he demonstrated the genetic fallacy because he though it would be comical. My point was clear enough. One image is a literal 3D rendering, the other is a digital photograph taken through a lens. The 3D rendering does not mog the digital photograph.

[Anonymous No.14793674]

>>14793524
>correcting someone's deeply flawed use of language is a fallacy

[Anonymous No.14793748]

It's astonishing how a single telescope can make so many schizos on /sci/ and elsewhere seethe so hard. Yes we get it, you don't believe in science and think observing the universe serves le globohomo or something.

[Anonymous No.14794078]

>>14783157
uh oh a retard

[Anonymous No.14794919]

>>14793490

[Anonymous No.14794989]

>>14783153
Kek. Nice photoshop, retard.

[Anonymous No.14795004]

why do /pol/tards seethe so much at telescopes?

[frenanon No.14795050]

>>14783153
Does anyone else think it's weird that the Space shills are extremely similar to the /biz/ shills?

[frenanon No.14795053]

>>14787569
>You can afford a home, but not yet a home
Wow. I guess I'll just go buy a mansion with your galaxy brain observation as payment.

[frenanon No.14795058]

>>14789765
>Because it's a multi-billion-dollar boondoggle
Sounds about right.
>The lucky thing is the instruments it does have are blowing out mainstream cosmologists as hard as they can be.
Oh, is that right...

[frenanon No.14795066]

>>14792251
I like how they wear the "bunnysuits", in a room that produces more dust particles than all of the people there combined.

[frenanon No.14795069]

>>14793524
>He didn't make a point, he demonstrated the genetic fallacy
Is there such thing as a "Fallacy" Fallacy?
Where people assume that randomly calling something a Fallacy is some type of "gotcha"?

[frenanon No.14795071]

>>14793748
Fuck you shills.
It's not enough to steal Hundreds-of-$Trillions from Society; you go out of your way to treat everyone else like shit for no reason.

[frenanon No.14795073]

>>14794919
Yeah, they do shit like that.

[Anonymous No.14795164]

>>14793674
My usage wasn't deeply flawed. My intent was clear from context. Communication is 70% context.

[Anonymous No.14795165]

>>14795069
Yes, but that doesn't apply in this case. By image I meant plain digital photograph. My intent was clear from context.

[Anonymous No.14795226]

>>14795066
i like how you get your arse handed to you in nearly every thread you infest
nigga thinks tomahawk missiles are fake hahahaha

[Anonymous No.14795293]

>>14795050
10 billion. say only america payed for it, thats 300million people. And it was built over 20 years. It cost you 1.67 dollars. The answers to the beginning of the universe and btw a bunc of beautifull pictures cost you 1.67 dollars.
If you have a problem with this, go fuck yourselfe.

[Anonymous No.14795329]

>>14783846
Because giving an even greater incentive to scientists to defend their theories to the death will surely accelerate the pace of science.

[Anonymous No.14795354]

>>14783846
why should it you dumb faggot

[frenanon No.14795735]

>>14795226
>i like how you get your arse handed to you in nearly every thread you infest
Telling me to go back to /pol/ isn't "btfo'ing" me.
>nigga thinks tomahawk missiles are fake hahahaha
Didn't say they're "fake". They're just interesting pictures that you are free to interpret as you'd like.

>>14795293
I'm not upset about the money in principle.
I'm upset that they lied about what they're doing with money, and just had one of their interns do some bongs and then fug around in photoshop.

[Anonymous No.14795877]

>>14795050
>>14795053
>>14795058
>>14795066
>>14795071
>>14795073
>>14795735
Yes, the jews control everything, including your own mind. Who do you think planted all these clues and the ideas inside your mind? It's an obvious diversionary tactic.
Suicide is the only liberation. Do it.

[Anonymous No.14795894]

>>14783159
Pretty sure that's ice

[Anonymous No.14796082]

>>14793524
>post in astro thread
>literally doesn't know that we've had a probe in close Jupiter orbit for the past several years.
kys retard
https://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/targetFamily/Jupiter?subselect=Instrument%3AJunoCam%3A

[frenanon No.14796288]

>>14783846
Wow, this comment definitely triggered some people

[frenanon No.14796299]

>>14795877
>Who do you think planted all these clues and the ideas inside your mind?
Not the people calling me schizo for pointing this shit out.

[Anonymous No.14796411]

Oh boy it’s schizo time

[Anonymous No.14796507]

>>14796082
Lol, you fucking idiot.
>When Jupiter's Clouds Pop Up
Is the texture the 3D faggot used to generate the "image" I originally responded to. Thanks for proving my point.

[Anonymous No.14796777]

>>14796507
https://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA23803
lol, lmao

[Anonymous No.14796808]

>>14796507
>3D
>generate
you talk like a boomer who has no idea about computers lol

[Anonymous No.14796835]

>>14796777
>Citizen scientist Kevin M. Gill processed this JunoCam image...
>JunoCam's raw images are available for the public to peruse and process into image products at...
In other words, you didn't even fucking read the page you posted, and so you actually still think it's an unedited image. So fucking sad...
>>14796808
It was obvious to me at a glance that it was a texture applied to a fucking sphere in a 3D program. Yes, 3D modelling programs generate images, that's what the G in CGI stands for.

[Anonymous No.14796840]

>>14796835
>backpedals from "fake CGI" to "b-b-b-uh he stitched 2 images and changed the contrast"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAH

[Anonymous No.14796846]

>>14796840
Who are you quoting. You thought it was an unedited image rather than an image generated by a 3D program by a guy who mapped a texture to a sphere, and you're the one laughing? You should be laughing at your own stupidity.

[Anonymous No.14796853]

>>14796835
3D isn't magic you retard boomer. Having a source texture doesn't magically "generate" new textures of the same quality without repetition. Also anon above you already posted the source.

[Anonymous No.14796858]

>>14796846
>image generated by a 3D program
>this JunoCam image, which was taken on April 10, 2020, at 6:37 a.m. PDT (9:37 a.m. EDT), as the Juno spacecraft performed its 26th close flyby of the planet. At the time the image was taken, the spacecraft was about 5,375 miles (8,650 kilometers) from Jupiter's cloud tops at a latitude of about 50 degrees North. The spacecraft was traveling about 127,000 mph (204,000 kilometers per hour) relative to the planet at that time.

lol, lmao

[Anonymous No.14796872]

>>14796853
>Having a source texture doesn't magically "generate" new textures of the same quality without repetition.
PRECISELY MY POINT. The "citizen scientist" has mapped an image of small part of a planet's surface to cover THE WHOLE FUCKING SURFACE. COMPARE IT WITH OP'S IMAGE FOR FUCK'S SAKE.
>>14796858
>close flyby
How fucking retarded are /sci/tards, lol.

[Anonymous No.14796876]

>>14796872
OPs image is JWST, not Juno you retard.

[Anonymous No.14796878]

>>14796876
Oh god, you still don't get it. You still think the image is unedited rather than a texture mapped sphere.

[Anonymous No.14796879]

>>14796872
If NASA lies about everything, why do you even think Jupiter is real? Why are you even on /sci/?

[Anonymous No.14796881]

>>14796879
Strawman. Someone already posted a link to the page with the unedited texture. Fucking hell.

[Anonymous No.14796883]

>>14796878
The "source" texture you mentioned looks nothing like the "spere" image retard. see >>14796853

[Anonymous No.14796891]

>>14796881
"someone" being your own post which doesn't even have a link?

[Anonymous No.14797895]

>>14795226
>arse
Speak american on the american internet, you limey queer.

[Anonymous No.14797968]

How far from Jupiter were our previous pics taken from and how far was the JWST from Jupiter when it took this image?

[Anonymous No.14798038]

>>14788327
Can IR sensors not sense visible light?

[Anonymous No.14798056]

>>14786392
You are genuinely retarded.

[Anonymous No.14798058]

>>14783478
/thread

[Anonymous No.14798593]

>>14783693
>It basically discovered galaxies where the big bang model said they should not exist
So the big bang model expected the telescope to recieve light from the farthest in time and space areas of the universe, and to not see any or many galaxies, but to see like proto galaxies kind of close together?

Since everything started closer together, when they do look back, can it be seen the early galaxies are closer together?

If not galaxies, what did they expect to see?

[Anonymous No.14798604]

>>14783693
>It basically discovered galaxies where the big bang model said they should not exist
you mean they calibrated their data by a few percent

[Anonymous No.14798860]

SCHIZOS GET OUT GET OUT
>>>/x/
SCHIZOS GET OUT GET OUT
>>>/x/
SCHIZOS GET OUT GET OUT
>>>/x/
SCHIZOS GET OUT GET OUT
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.14798897]

>>14798860
I think it's just one guy shitting up the whole board.

[Anonymous No.14798950]

>>14783157
>We already know all there is to know about Jupiter,
Oh? Do tell.

[Anonymous No.14799070]

>>14795293
>To answer to the beginning of the universe
No one asked.

[Anonymous No.14799074]

>>14798860
You do realize /sci/ence is literally just accepted /x/... Right?

[Anonymous No.14799903]

>>14784491
what a fucking retard. Yeah take more pictures of jupiter , there is so much more to unravel by taking pics of a random planet . Fucking aspergers retards , i dont believe you fag study any STEM field , if yes we are doomed.

[Anonymous No.14799942]

>>14799074
no, /sci/ is mostly outright /x/

[Anonymous No.14799981]

>>14792251
Hexagrams fit onto hexagons, more at 11

[Anonymous No.14800847]

>>14783478
it proved the Thunderbolts Project right
there was no big bang; the universe just is

[Anonymous No.14803577]

>>14787658
What does "Io's footprint" mean?

[Anonymous No.14803661]

>>14800847
I would absolutely die of laughter if this ended up not only being true, but also all the crazy bullshit about planetary positions the people behind Thunderbolts Project claim, and all that bullshit about dark matter and crap turned out to be completely wrong.

[Anonymous No.14803715]

>>14783478
Ah yes, and the US and Russia both went to Mars in the 70s.

[Anonymous No.14805085]

>>14803661
they make more sense than the mainstream

[Anonymous No.14805096]

>>14805085
>Make more sense
>Organization that thinks the planets of the solar system used to all be much closer together, and that there was never really a 'night time' on Earth until the planets were knocked away in an apocalyptic event responsible for the great flood myth and everyone's cultural myths about dragons and gods.

[Anonymous No.14805108]

>>14805096
Yes.

[Anonymous No.14805176]

>Yes, we have invented a machine that can generate *constant* and *sustained* buyer's remorse in the political clientele and taxpayer's remorse in everyone else, and all just for the low cost of 10 billion dollars!

[Anonymous No.14807021]

>>14796299
People are calling you shizo because the style of image you're posting is only used by shizos, nobodys reading anything on there.
If a shit covered hobo came up to you and showed you a dirty notebook, claiming he has made some amazing discovery, anyone would dismiss it.

Why?
Because the chance that it's not just schizo rambles is pretty much zero