/sci/ - Science & Math

[N No.14765724]

The reason why scientists are failing society as of now is because they were raised to pursue credit and achievement rather than pursuing knowledge. They dont really care about making society healthier and their only motivation is to feel accomplished that the rest of the world values them as smart. You see all these people trying to be prestigious when pursuing careers rather than publishing work that obsoletes the previous work. It is more of a popularity contest now than anything and they should be eugenicized. It is mostly the asians and jews that are like this.

[Anonymous No.14765758]

>>14765724
>It is mostly the asians and jews that are like this., vain, image conscious to a fault, shallow minded, petty, untrustworthy, unproductive, amoral = feminized

[Anonymous No.14766102]

>>14765724
Science is failing because many are pursuing the field who 100 years ago would be working in fields. They study the textbooks, they memorize the theories, but they don't really comprehend them or have a larger frame of reference. This is why you see scientists falling for meme studies. They themselves while they work in the industry, are not actually that intelligent.

[Anonymous No.14766143]

>>14766102
Tying economic mobility with education was a mistake.
Gamifying education into a sequence of exams/contests/olympiads becomes the goal and this gamification starves resources from real natural talents.

[Anonymous No.14766213]

>>14765724
You mean people in a capitalist society will value the pursuit of capital over other avenues? Great find OP.

[Anonymous No.14766237]

>>14765724
It's society that's failing science.
Everyone of modern society only cares about money, short-term rewards and popularity. Those things are near the antithesis of science.

[Anonymous No.14766244]

>>14765724
Scientists are failing society because midwits like you are still falling for a failed 20th century ideology that says society should be science-driven. As soon as this inane idea becomes popular there is no longer any real science as such. It's all politics.

[Anonymous No.14768514]

>>14766213
>>14766244
I never said that the pursuit of money is what im against. Im against the pursuit of "clout chasing" rather than investigating. There are many coping mechanisms in psychology that are developed at a young age but achievement is the most retarded and every post that was previously here supporting my claims were deleted by the jannies due to being anti semetic. I am being censored

[Anonymous No.14768518]

>>14766237
achieving money is fine. But all of these debater faggots in this thread who are only here for short term rewards and popularity of opposing said objective statement is the problem. Your mother did not raise you right, she taught you to ace the tests but not be a well rounded individual for society and thus you are useless and you can keep denying it but we all know

[Anonymous No.14768522]

all asian countries and cultures were defined by psychologists as "defined by their desire to be significant and to distinguish themselves through their achievements." This is no less respectable to a child seeking attention in an adult form and is pathetic how we consider them functioning

[Anonymous No.14768528]

>>14766237
False.

[Anonymous No.14768530]

>>14765724
um, you'd better submit to the Science, or we will have to take all your freedom away

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UQYTb9DwKjQ

[Anonymous No.14768549]

>>14766244
assuming our current popularity contest between science journalists is "real science"

[Anonymous No.14768564]

>>14765724
There's a lot of red tape in discovery and research, and it's probably to help keep anyone that doesn't want to suckle the political agenda of academia and its funding sources away. We still have independent discovery though, but you're not going to get dickall published for discovering anything that helps people. If anything, you'll probably just be heavily fined.

[Anonymous No.14769007]

>>14768514
Clout is nothing more than social capital. Again, really knocking this find out of the park OP.

[N No.14769289]

>>14769007
changing the goal posts, a true intellectual. You guys blame corporations for the problem but its also you degenerate collegebros that fuck up the equation.

[Anonymous No.14769532]

>>14769289
I don't need to move the goalposts when you're making such stupid claims. You seem to be advocating for scientists to live monastic lives free from all trappings.

[Anonymous No.14769547]

>>14768549
It makes no difference what you think "real science" is. So long as morons like you believe science is relevant in public policy decisions, you will not have "real science".

[Anonymous No.14769765]

>>14765724
The creation of the academic publishing market was the death of science. Public or perish does all sorts of damage. New scientists graduate with the belief baked into them that doing science, learning about the world, and applying reason themselves is potentially bad, and trusting utterly in peer-reviewed authority is the ultimate good.

[Anonymous No.14770547]

>>14769547
science = reason and reason is much higher to a popularity contest. If one of me learns 4 times as fast as one of you midwits then I should get 4 times the say

[Anonymous No.14770551]

>>14769532
you seem to be thinking that theres no other coping mechanism than to seek attention. This is very childish. Industrial society in itself made us want prestigious things this is industrial thinking, It is bad.

[Anonymous No.14770561]

Suppose that lack of funds for postgraduate education had led the chemist to become an insurance broker instead of a chemist. In that case he would have been very interested in insurance matters but would have cared nothing about isopropyltrimethylmethane. In any case it is not normal to put into the satisfaction of mere curiosity the amount of time and effort that scientists put into their work. The “curiosity” explanation for the scientists’ motive just doesn’t stand up.

-Ted kaczynski

[Anonymous No.14770566]

go getters and achievement retards are the problem. We want people who found science interesting from a young age and didnt just adopt science to look smart around their peers. This is why society is failing.

[Anonymous No.14770567]

>>14770547
I don't know why you're rambling about your kiddie fantasies. We're talking about actual reality here.

[N No.14770580]

when the midwit jannies removed all the anti semetic remarks and now its just a bunch of people with hurt feelings.

[Anonymous No.14770596]

>>14766237

[N No.14770605]

>>14770596
>>14770567

when the walls fall and all of us are drafted. You will be judged based on your wit and theres nothing you can do. You wanna live petty unadaptable lifestyle thus you are vermin

[Anonymous No.14770611]

>>14766143
Very true. Most of my uni friends did science degrees, and it's because the government funds most fields of science to allow them to make better wages than a lot of other jobs. Not great, but enough they can justify it. Note that these associates are dumb as fuck.

[Anonymous No.14770680]

>>14770605
Once again I don't know what your psychotic midwit rambling is about. You seem to be losing your mind over your own intellectual impotence.

[N No.14770860]

>>14770680
I feel like you are insecure and need to constantly be condescending to cope. Im simply saying the backbone of survival in the military relies on IQ and people like you deny it. Instead you cop out for popularity contests and chasing a lavish lifestyle. I assure you with my bench press and iq I can squish you in any realm. I have a sense of self accomplishment when I accomplish tasks and do not ever feel dependent on the idea of being loved and praised by others like the vermin asian stem majors.

[Anonymous No.14770869]

>>14765724
I mean, sure, but weren't the asians and the jews better at school to begin with? It's easy for me, a brainlet, to call smarty pants careerists, but like, you remember school. The pressure to perform, to be a success or a failure.

[N No.14770872]

>>14770860
you cant survive without the institution as you seek the institutions validation constantly as an achievement driven individual rather than an individual who is all around crafted to both enjoy what he is doing and use it to attain respect and not bend the knee to corporations like someone who never became a man

[N No.14770880]

>>14770869
anxiety driven culture, high suicide rates, no actual success beyond the margin of 100k. It is clear its a bad example for the youth to go off of this. Nonetheless they get good at the current work by studying it for hours but never improve upon it and change 2 factors of a study and republish it to take credit. They arent actually helpful to science ever.

[Anonymous No.14770881]

>>14765724
Very true op.

I noticed that scientists these days, it's all about the credit, it's all about making it look like they're the heroes who saved the day, they crave recognition so badly.

They all want to be the next Nobel prize winner and told "wow you saved humanity, you're like nikola tesla, you're basically marie curie, but better!"

A big reason why covid got pushed so hard was because the scientists who invented MRNA wanted to be recognised and congratulated for what they did.

"You WILL take the Vaccine, it WILL save your life, and you WILL thank us and give us a Nobel prize after, and you WILL congratulate us and thank us for all our hard work and research! Remember, WE saved YOU!!!"

[Anonymous No.14770992]

>>14765724
How is whole
Whole is how

[Anonymous No.14771469]

>>14770551
You seem unable to grasp the concept of people possessing different value systems from your own.

[Anonymous No.14772422]

>>14765724
unfortunately most of scientists today are incompetent midwits.
i myself have not acquired an academic education but i know many who do, cheating is an essential part of the culture in those institutions since the study loads are irrational.
ask anyone you know and trust to be honest with you about this and they will give the same answer, and the worst thing is that the management is aware and also encourage it.
a student is required to write dozens of papers, he uses people to write some of them because it is impossible, he argues with the professor about the grade without any technical aspect just by persuasion,
then they become scientists, your doctors etc... this is a joke

[Anonymous No.14772561]

You were good right up until the end.
>ITZ DA JOOOOOOOOOOOZ
>ITZ DA ASIOOOOOOOOOOOZ
Get a grip, bigots.