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I read that race has no biological foundation and has nothing to do with genetics but that sounds like bullshit. How can you consider a chimpanzee and bonobo two subspecies of primates and not put a white person and asian person into subspecies?

>> No.14749019

>>14749014
It's somewhat arbitrary.

>> No.14749723

>>14749014
>>14749019
Sample the world's population, sequence the genomes and project in 2D by PCA. Racially boundaries are only arbitrary for some under-populated, marginalized peoples. The three subspecies stand clearly on the graphs.

>> No.14749750

>>14749014
Race only exists as a placebo for people who were born into deprivation, floating around aimlessly, deprived of an extended family or tribal lands. No one with a true ethnicity gives two shits about their race.

>> No.14750489
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14750489

Look
You become a different species when interbreeding stops being possible. Sometimes you see species live in different niches across the globe separated by the size of the world, with different adaptions, but you interbreed. Or you see interbreeding resulting in non viable offspring, or sterile offspring.

The problem when applying this to humans is that the core of the human experience(smart endurance hunters) means the ability to adapt to different niches and avoid adaptive evolutionary pressure. Tool use means you can just suffer a decline in numbers instead of a mass die off that would force evolutionary adaption.
Which means the most significant adaptions observed in humans is skin color and small changes in the human guts to adapt to diets. Alongside tribes living in very elevated environment such as Sherpas having small changes to their blood chemistry.

This is further compounded by the fact Eugenics turned into a nothingburger, and that its politically unpopular.
Haplogroups is just Eugenics 2.0 at this point, but it has actual data used for the flawed arguments it presents. Haplogroups are the closest you get to 'races of humans', but its still insignificant to what happens in the animal kingdom when there are mass die offs.

>> No.14750496

>>14749014
Racial theory was nothing but proto-sociology and therefore even worse in regards to scientific value
It’s the equivalent of someone today referring to the elan vital in biology only that elan vital is not politically charged

>> No.14750576

>>14749750
>t. never read a history book
The Europeans cared very much about both their race and ethnicity til the 1960s brainwashing started. For instance, when the Scots (an ethnic group) banned importation of any blacks (because they were a different race). It's not unique to Europe either.The Japanese built their empire up in the 19th/20th centuries both for their ethnicity and to be leader of the Asians.

>> No.14750734

>>14750489
Whites and asians can't interbreed

>> No.14750745

>>14750734
Uhh yes they can
Their children become school shooters

>> No.14750748

>>14750745
Asian women have miscarriages when having babies with white men 99% of the time

>> No.14750771

>>14750734
You read that post, and such is your reply?
lmao

It just reinforces the point.
Haplogroups gives a meaningful way to describe the genetical isolation that lead to clear genetic markers, until the various epochs of migration lead to admixture.
Describing the various post rice admixtures as "asian" and an entire continent + the asian steppes as "white" means the categories are too broad to be meaningful.

>> No.14750800

>>14750745
Literally all school shooters have one of the parents being a jew.
(((white)))

>> No.14750802

>>14749014
Read Making sense of Race by Edward Dutton.

>> No.14750805

>>14750748
>>14750800
Your bait attempts are a bit obvious dude, try harder

>> No.14750806

>>14750805
Literally google white men and asian women not being able to successfully procreate and loads of studies come up

>> No.14750811
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>>14750806
>Dr. Temeka Zore, MD, FACOG turns to the research to explain how race and ethnicity may influece fertility and reproductive outcomes.
>Temeka Zore
AAAAAAAND it's a jew.
A black mongrel jewess, no less.
Probably had her arranged marriage groom dump her for a cute oriental, KEK MANY SUCH CASES

>> No.14750813

>>14750806
Asian women with white men having a higher frequency of cesarean delivery is something completely different to „99% miscarriage“ and the non-interbreedability of different species

>> No.14750825

>>14750811
It is actually true, interracial procreation leads to all sorts of problems in the offspring, reduced fertility is one of them, reduced fertility is one of them, it is even seen in animal species for example :- breeding horse and donkey produces mule which is infertile.

>> No.14750839

>>14750745
There is an excessive over representation of asian-white mutts in cases of severe depression, schizophrenia, anti social disorders and other mental illnesses, they also have high rates of transgenderism.

>> No.14750890

>>14750839
I think more of that has to do with spies. Both sides use faggots as spies because they cant get honeydicked.
The offspring of 2 gays is some transgender mutant.

>> No.14750898

>>14750813
If race isn't real and we're all so similar then a cesarean delivery shouldn't be needed

>> No.14750904

>>14750898
>any difference in genetics is race
K so then everyone is his own race? Splendid. Misanthropes were the true racists all along

>> No.14751082
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14751082

Yes race exists. No different human races are not subspecies. Neanderthals and some other extinct variants may be considered subspecies of humans, but different races aren't considered genetically different enough to be subspecies, and aren't as genetically different as chimpanzees and bonobos are from each other. Stop posting these threads every day.

>> No.14751085

>>14750800
>Literally all school shooters have one of the parents being a jew.
>(((white)))
No, they don't.

>> No.14751109

>>14750898
Has it occurred to you that asian woman-white man couple may correlate with specific higher wealth patterns, and that rich clinics have a tendency to perform more cesearean deliveries?

This is a blue board so I can't post the famous meme of Zucky fucking his gook female, but my point is common knowledge.

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>>14749014

>> No.14751860

>>14750898
Asians have higher c section rates, especially in California (Hapa spawnground).
>>14750734
No evidence on the same level as ligers and mules. On the contrary we have numerous examples in history of rare asians and whites in each other's family trees 3-5 generations ago already.

>> No.14751877

>>14751085
Yes they do tho sry

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>>14749014
Obligatory

>> No.14752016

>>14752006
No one cares, everyone knows that shit already. Find me the interesting studies on how to make asians/whites even smarter.

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14752039

>>14752006
Also obligatory

>> No.14752050

>>14752016
>No one cares
Actually it's basically illegal to take a reasonably intelligent position on race in every White country except the US (you don't know how good you have it with the 1st Amendment, read about vilification laws in Australia if you want an idea of how bad it gets) - and it's almost universally political suicide to do anything other than blindly pretend race doesn't exist. So actually, many people care

>> No.14752061

>>14752050
Nice strawman. Orban equated race mixing with genocide and he is the longest running state leader in Europe

>> No.14752067

>>14752061
>Orban equated race mixing with genocide and he is the longest running state leader in Europe
Absolutely based.

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14752082

>>14752061
>heh, you made a broad observation that's true in every large and economically significant western country, as well as the vast majority of less significant ones??
>well, what about this one single irrelevant Balkan country, HUH?!
You're so insightful, Anon

>> No.14752090

>>14752050
Just get a good education in your country and immigrate to one where race realist positions are acceptable.

>> No.14752109

>>14752090
Of course that's the pragmatic solution and my current plan, but it really shouldn't have to be this way

>> No.14752606

>>14752061
its not a strawman its reality. learn what strawman means.

>> No.14752678

>>14751814
kek

>> No.14752689

>>14752050
This is going to be a huge problem. Diseases can affect races differently and if we deny race and ignore the biological differences then people will die

>> No.14752716

>>14752689
What's wrong with demonic filth dying ?
All children of the lie injected themselves with the mutagen anyway, so it's a shortterm issue.