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How do I force myself to like codemonkeying? I don't want to become a useless mathfag hermit but software engineering is so fucking dull. I only like scientific scripting but as soon as I have to deal with more than that I just zone out. I need money and there's no money outside tech. Fuck do I do?

>> No.14739085

You're already useless if you think codemonkeying is a worthwhile use of your time.

>> No.14739096
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>>14739074
Maths is garbage, evil, the tool of Satan just like science to destroy mankind and replace mankind with machines/subhumans who blindly follow orders like the police.

>> No.14739099

>>14739085
It's not. But the only good salaries are in tech right now

>> No.14739106

>>14739099
Wow spend your life competing as a disposable entity doing a task anyone can do for a drip of money.

Math PhDs who become quants are far from broke, they understand 10x more about reality while being able to escape it, and mathematicians are some of the least replaceable entities.

>> No.14739108

>>14739106
there are no junior quant positions which do not involve C++/C#/Python codemonkeying and mindless AI optimization over big data. No math involved.

>> No.14739111

>>14739074
Math is illogical, though, it requires the use of an origin point value that is it own self negation, a contradiction unto itself which necessarily results in an explosive system of value measurement.

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>>14739108
Then why do companies often hire math PhDs with less programming experience than just programmers?

But if codemonkeying is so great to you, do it, you don't have enough common sense to be a mathematician. We get a few of those. They're useless.

>> No.14739139

>>14739074
If you like math and still want to do CS then you should look to the deeper layers of computing.

You’ll want to look at stuff like Operating System Design, Memory Allocation, and building your own kernel.

There is a lot of use for a systems guy with a deeper understanding of compute. If that doesn’t interest you, then you can always grift off of AI.

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>>14739074
>How do I force myself to like codemonkeying?
Make hobby projects. It doesn’t have to be software that anyone will want to use, and it doesn’t have to resemble stuff from your academic classes. The classic example is to make a little video game, maybe a Mario-like game, maybe a little JRPG, maybe a little text adventure. You can always expand it later, enhance it or optimize it.

The important thing is that it doesn’t need to be a chore or job, and it doesn’t need to look like leetcode brainteasers. You will get fluent in the drudgery and learn to apply your tricks as you pursue your personal hobby

>> No.14739144

>>14739141
Great game. Unbased optimization and interface.

>> No.14739150

>>14739118
dude I hate codemonkeying for fucks sake can you read

>> No.14739151

>>14739139
I dislike even how that shit sounds. Not for me.

>> No.14739152

>>14739150
Are you good at it?

>> No.14739155

>>14739141
that's not what gets me money. I was thinking about leetcoding just to pass the tech interviews at quant firms and then just live large. But leetcoding makes me want to puke I need motivation

>> No.14739157

>>14739152
yes but my scope is narrow. My coding experience is exclusively mathematical scripting like stochastic simulation, Monte Carlo integration, PDE solvers, stats in general

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14739174

Well you sure as hell don't have enough common sense to do math. You're another "smart idiot".

>> No.14739224

>>14739096
I don't wanna be a sourcefag but I'm very interested in the context of the letter of your pic as I am a fellow Ted enjoyer. Do you maybe know to whom and/or approximately when he wrote this?

>> No.14739247

>>14739174
faggot

>> No.14739272

>>14739247
You're joking. How is OP going to put 10k hours into something he hates and be good? We do what suits us.
>>14739224
Ted is an example of someone with no common sense.

>> No.14739370

>>14739106
>>14739118
17 year old cringe autist kid.

>> No.14739390

>>14739106
> Wow spend your life competing as a disposable entity doing a task anyone can do for a drip of money.

Very few people can actually code to save their lives, that’s why their salaries are high.

>> No.14739393

>>14739074
People who can reason will find coding very easy. I make six figures working 4 hours a week from home thanks to coding. I basically self fund my math research and can raise a family and afford a house

>> No.14739505

>>14739393
what do you do

>> No.14739510

>>14739393
Indeed, it is very easy to write abominable shitcode. Any midwit can do it, and every midwit will.

>> No.14739634

>>14739074
Just input all the science etc into wolfram alpha and have it regurgitate everything back to you in mathematical form/function. Then use OpenAI and copy-paste the Latex or Mathematica models to translate yourself back into science speak.

>> No.14739642

>>14739074
>How do I force myself to like codemonkeying?

Do something special using your other skills, see how far you get. If you are advanced in maths then you can probably apply that with some very shit tier code and get results more interesting than some good codefag.

Have you tried any hardware focused programming? Get an arduino and write your own PID control system from scratch.


https://youtu.be/JpNAhKT7yY4

>> No.14739965

>>14739642
OP here. Currently doing a PhD. As far as I know, the money is in software engy or web dev and those are fully devoid of what I'm doing right now. I want to have kids anon. I need some motivation to embrace the monkey, maybe some guidance on what to specialize in.

>> No.14740309

>>14739965
There are LOTS of rapid training programmes to get graduates into IT fields. Google schools near you to see what they are offering

>> No.14740342

>>14740309
I don't want to spend any money

>> No.14740745 [DELETED] 

>>14739505
I write NLP algorithms that analyze the structure of about 10 million pieces of text a day. I also design the tech infrastructure to put it in production