Is Edward Witten a villain?

[Anonymous No.14738470]

>I fear it’s not really about the leadership of Witten, Gross, Vafa, Strominger, Seiberg etc. It’s really about Ed. Many years ago Joe Polchinski said to me ‘You keep mentioning String Theory Eric, but I am never sure whether String Theory really exists as a proper discipline or community…or whether we are merely runnning sub-routines for Ed.’
is he really a psychopath? someone who came from political science to take over physics? How can one man have so much power? Einstein was left alone, no one followed him in his search for the theory of everything. Witten is more than Einstein? How? Every day I have more certainty and less doubt

[Anonymous No.14738575]

>>14738470
i don’t think he’s a psychopath. nor do i think he’s a bad person. but his dominance over the field has been pathological, i think. even speaking as a supporter of string theory

here is what I think about Ed. he is really really smart. a genius for sure. even his high school classmates said so in interviews with the media. his classmates also said he lacked direction. he hunted around for his path in life and was never naturally a physicist; even though his dad was a physicist he rebelled until he was far too old.

his career in physics proves that he sort of is an anti-physics physicist. first, he did great work after his PhD on mastering the difficulties of all the branches of physics and pointing them out. in fact the first Superstring Revolution (credited to Green and Schwarz solving gravitational anomalies) was spurred on specifically by Witten’s paper with Alvarez-Gaume saying that all approaches to quantum gravity were fatally flawed by gravitational anomalies. Green and Schwarz revived string theory by finding a loophole to a no-go theorem by Witten. same thing with the Weinberg-Witten theorem; Witten tried debunking a class of extensions to the poincare group but loophole=supersymmetry. same thing with a lot of what Witten did. Witten basically single-handedly killed supergravity by showing it has no chiral sector. he killed a TON of theories.

his main strength as a physicist has been RELENTLESS mathematical attacks on the most obscure corner cases of “problems” in theoretical physics. he’s basically proposed nothing as a new idea—even M-theory was sort of just a vague proposal cobbled together from results by others like Hull and Townsend when in reality Witten was a strong force against membrane theory until that moment.

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[Anonymous No.14738578]

That head is just ridiculous

[Anonymous No.14738580]

>>14738575
tl;dr Witten has mostly acted as that mathematical douche who has shot down typical theoretical physics using crazy math his whole career. his main contribution has been to put a “clear” overly-mathematical no-go theorem on lots of physics that benefits physics only by spurring on the discovery of loopholes to his math-genius-level no-go theorems.

you may wonder wonder why he didn’t discover the loopholes himself? the answer is that he never was inspired as a physicist to begin with. he took it on as an admission that “that’s what he’s good at.” no passion, no imagination. his genius is purely technical and mathematical and history has shown he has no physical sparks or insights that lead to any new substantive physics.

and the whole field has followed since he is so fucking smart. nobody tries to revolutionize physics with wild new ideas any more. the culture Witten has created simply values math and technical virtuosity, hence no new ideas are welcome and no new ideas have happened for decades

[Anonymous No.14738595]

>>14738580
Well, maybe it's the end of physics then. It's amazing what physicists could do with computers and pens and papers but their work was within the realm of the universe. When you go farther than that well we don't exist in that reality. I don't know...

[Anonymous No.14738624]

>>14738575
>Witten basically single-handedly killed supergravity by showing it has no chiral sector.
Whsy is meant by chiral in terms of gravity?

Gravity has macro chirality, as seen by the rotation of galaxies, black holes, and planets around stars.

[Anonymous No.14738632]

>>14738624
what i mean is that at one time (e.g. when Hawking published A Brief History of Time) it was believed that a Theory of Everything including gravity and the Standard Model of particle physics could be found by compactifying 11 dimensional supergravity in a suitable manner. Witten showed that this recipe can not really provide chiral fermions, like especially how in the standard model we only have left-handed neutrinos and right-handed antineutrinos but not the opposite chiralities for the corresponding antiparticles

[Anonymous No.14738640]

>>14738580
Okay so I'm talking out my ass but I take this thread is an invitation for people to come in that are ignoramus and chime in. Well sorry if that's not what you meant but here it goes.
So this dark energy keeps filling the universe and the universe keeps expanding. So it seems to me like the universe is like a ball with a little hole where the dark energy is coming from and that dark energy sorrounds the universe.

[Anonymous No.14738643]

>>14738470
string theory is just kabbalah dude, you really got niggas arguing about whether there's 10 or 11 dimensions, not realizing that they just got baited into an eternally aporic debate in kabbalah. Witten probably busts fat loads every night just thinking about the giant scam he hoisted on academia with his BJB (big Jewish brain)

[Anonymous No.14738648]

>>14738470 (OP)
string theory is just kabbalah dude, you really got niggas arguing about whether there's 10 or 11 dimensions, not realizing that they just got baited into an eternally aporic debate in kabbalah about whether the "11th" sefirot, da'at (knowledge) is a sefirot. Witten probably busts fat loads every night just gloating about the giant scam he hoisted on academia with his BJB (big Jewish brain).

[Anonymous No.14738680]

>>14738648
what’s funny about this /pol/ argument (or is it /x/ i donno) is that you could find a lot of strange coincidences in string theory that align with kabbalah numerology even beyond the sefirot. but nobody does.

here are ones i’ve found:
the number 496 appears with great importance in string theory. it holds great importance too in kabbalah
> In 1984, Michael Green and John H. Schwarz realized that the anomaly in type I string theory with the gauge group SO(32) cancels because of an extra "classical" contribution from a 2-formfield. They realized that one of the necessary conditions for a superstring theory to make sense is that the dimension of the gauge group of type I string theory must be 496 and then demonstrated this to be so.

i leave it to you to look up the significance of 496 in Kabbalah numerology

496 is associated with the group E8 in string theory. this is a picture of the E2 subgroup of E8, representing the little group of a lightlike vector

[Anonymous No.14738711]

>>14738580

>e never was inspired as a physicist to begin with. he took it on as an admission that “that’s what he’s good at.” no passion, no imagination. his genius is purely technical and mathematical

I can see that, since he said he believes everything from multiverse, string landscape, inflationary cosmology, to Don Page's wormhole solution to the blackhole information paradox

[Anonymous No.14738749]

>>14738680
>i leave it to you to look up the significance of 496 in Kabbalah numerology
Can only see gematria like for any other random number.

[Anonymous No.14738860]

>>14738470
Why didn't you post his real picture OP?

[Anonymous No.14738878]

Midwitten's intelligence is limited to physics. Outside of physics he's just an average midwit. Meanwhile Chris Langan is an actual polymath. It's obvious who's smarter.

[Anonymous No.14738889]

>>14738878
If Langan is so great how come he isn't on the team?

[Anonymous No.14738938]

>>14738878
What has Langan accomplished? Literally nothing. His cognitive physical theory is nonsense.

[Anonymous No.14738944]

>>14738878
ah, now I get it. The retard hating on string theory, modern physics, and Ed Witten is a Langan cocksucker. Everything makes sense now, ahahahahahah

[Anonymous No.14738954]

>>14738938
Langan's CTMU literally solves metaphysics. You need an IQ close enough to his 195 though if you want to understand it.

[Anonymous No.14738957]

>>14738889
Is Fauci on the team?

[Anonymous No.14738960]

>>14738957
no, this was this summer's roster

[Anonymous No.14738965]

>>14738954
>too retarded to explain the gist of it

[Anonymous No.14739042]

>>14738575
>he’s basically proposed nothing as a new idea
You've clearly never read any of his papers

[Anonymous No.14739114]

>>14738580
>>14738575
Sounds like the man holds these physicist bitches to account and keeps them rigorous. GOOD.

[Anonymous No.14739329]

>>14738680
Tell me about 496.

[Anonymous No.14739336]

>>14739329
There's 496 numbers from 1 to 496

[Anonymous No.14740133]

>>14738938

Le's face it, Witten has also accomplished nothing, his so called "achievement" is the intellectual equivalent of using advanced mathematics to calculate how many angles can dance on the head of a pin.

[Anonymous No.14740192]

This fucking guy. Hes the one "physicist" 'smart" enough to incorporate "qualia" into his shit, and all the computational-reductionist athiests around him (that ONLY understand quantity/material) think hes a FUCK GENIOUS.

I called him out on his shame to his face.

[Anonymous No.14740233]

>>14738575
it's not just string theory, or even physics for that matter. in pheno jesse thaler is the equivalent. if you want a high h-index, you need to collaborate with jesse, and that's that. if you don't have at least one collaboration with him, you're basically a nobody. jesse also determines where the entire field focuses its energy. once he adopted ML, all the pheno conferences blew up with ML.

[Anonymous No.14740330]

>>14739114
He holds a lot of people to account

[Anonymous No.14740341]

>>14740330
shame you couldn't work on that phenotype for Witten a little more

[Anonymous No.14740347]

>>14740341
His model's head could be made with its real size, before fall's tournament.

[Anonymous No.14740360]

let's read about the man himself instead of talking about shit no one has a real clue about
https://www.aip.org/history-programs/niels-bohr-library/oral-histories/46968

[Anonymous No.14740465]

>>14740360
>Another vivid memory is learning calculus when I was eleven.
lmao its over bros we cant compete

[Anonymous No.14740489]

>>14740465

He said his father, who was a physicist, tried to teach him calculus when he was 11.

[Anonymous No.14740496]

>>14740489
ok but
>I learned general relativity in a very exciting period of about ten days, from the book of Steve Weinberg

[Anonymous No.14740577]

>>14740465
>>Another vivid memory is learning calculus when I was eleven.

[Anonymous No.14740786]

>>14740496
I call that bullshit. I read gravitation and cosmology be Weinberg at graduate. It's not super difficult but there's a lot of things going on. You'd need quite a bit of background to start with

[[e-mail] No.14740818]

>>14738470
While Ed and Al were both Jews, Al probably never killed a baby.

[[e-mail] No.14740836]

>>14740818
>>14740577
Compare to Lewis Amselem from the Moloch and "sacrificing chicken" references in the Hillary emails.

US Ambassador Lew Amselem: A Ghoul from Horror Films Past
http://www.uruknet.info/index.php?p=m58412&hd=


The sordid history of Lewis Amselem, Deputy U.S. Permanent Representative to the OAS
https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=405x23091

[Anonymous No.14740845]

Ed Wittens dad was an anti-gravity researcher for the defense department. Seriously go look if you don't believe me.
Ed Witten then threw physics off course for decades.
Is it possible Ed Wittens dad helped invent anti-gravit, and then Ed made sure no one could follow them up by distracting the physics community with string bullshit?

I'm 100% serious. Look into it.

[Anonymous No.14740861]

>>14740845
Nothing about his research is "anti-gravity" see https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Louis-Witten
Take your meds

[Anonymous No.14740876]

>>14740861
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30499/the-truth-is-the-military-has-been-researching-anti-gravity-for-nearly-70-years
>>During a roundtable discussion titled “Recollections of the Relativistic Astrophysics Revolution” held at the 27th Texas Symposium on Relativistic Astrophysics in 2013, Witten recounted his own work on what he somewhat puzzlingly refers to as "the discovery of anti-gravity."

If you do your own research you will find even more than whats in that article

[Anonymous No.14740898]

>>14740861
>Since 1968 he(Witten) has been a Vice-President and Director of Science Affairs of theGravity Research Foundation.

>TheGravity Research Foundationis an organization established in 1948 by businessmanRoger Babson(founder ofBabson College)to find ways to implementgravitational shielding.

Louis Witten is the director of an anti gravity research foundation.

[Anonymous No.14740928]

>>14740876
>>14740898
The article is just a bunch of copy paste SEO garbage, haven't gotten through watching the refereed video yet to since its two hours long. But I don't expect to find anything there. Moreover just because he's appears to be associated with it doesn't mean that any of his actual research has anything to do with initial goals of the GRF.

[Anonymous No.14740954]

>>14740928
No one cares what you have to say shill.
I posted evidence, you are posting nitpicks. You didn't expect me to be able to back that up did you ;)

[Anonymous No.14740966]

>>14740928
Listen to the man in his own words
https://youtu.be/iH8btReqv4c?t=6552

I bet you'll still find some excuse to be a redditard.

[Anonymous No.14741008]

>>14740861
>>14740898
Louis Witten was director of GRF when they were still a relatively sane organization. he left it long ago and it became a joke only in the last decade or two.

Louis Witten’s research was a little speculative but pretty standard. he was a pretty good relativist. Ed wrote one paper with his dad a long time ago too.

Louis was one of the few relativists to revive Kaluza Klein theory after Einstein abandoned it in the 30s-40s or so. I am sure that was part of what got Ed into thinking about Kaluza Klein (extra compactified dimensions) type stuff

[Anonymous No.14741059]

>>14740966
Alright, you were right about him working on anti-gravity research, but he calls anti-gravity research in the mid 20th an "an interesting small chapter in the history of relatively" and a "world wide craze that lasted for about 10 years." Which implies that it was a dead end in terms of research, which isn't surprising given that the only way you could get an anti-gravity under General Relativity is if it turns out that negative mass energy is real, but people have been aware of that for decades. Even Popsci media have been talking about Alcubierre drive since the 90s.

Anyway why would string theory would be a distraction away from anti-gravity? Anti-gravity is theoretically possible under string theory if gravitons can negative spin.

[Anonymous No.14741061]

>>14741059
can have*

[Anonymous No.14741090]

>>14741059
picrel

[Anonymous No.14741106]

>>14741059
Anti-gravity research never went away.
There is a whole story to this I don't have the time to type up at the moment but I can provide links if you give me a little time.

A quick summary though, is that this research is a kind of revolving door situation where they try out researchers for a time and then cycle them back out to academia later, perhaps to farm students into the program.
They are very deliberate that no one gets the full picture of it, except for a select few critical researchers. That way they don't risk the information leaking to foreign countries.

To be honest I don't have a good explanation for why Ed Witten would sabotage physics with string theory, but given what I know it's the only thing that makes sense. And the coincidences with his father are just too much to ignore.

[Anonymous No.14741206]

>>14741106
>source
>rectum

[Anonymous No.14741284]

>>14741206
I don't care if you believe me.
Those who need to know have been informed.
You are irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.14741306]

>>14741284
you sound like Tooker (sevensixtwo) now.

i’ve personally looked into the backstory of the big string theorists including Ed. i don’t believe there was much fatherly influence there desu besides some small overlapping interests like Kaluza-Klein theory.

if you want to get into sus aspects of American string theorists backstories, look at David Gross’s father. (note Gross was Witten’s PhD advisor. and Witten getting Gross to advise him probably had a lot to do with Witten-family connections desu.) David Gross’s father was a high-pose Washington’s DC politics insider. look it up

there are other weird stories in the history of string theory too. Gabriele Veniziano’s story is suspect, and for sure Antonino Zichichi was tied up with the italian mob. obvious sus there.

but Witten’s backstory is pretty clean aside from him drawing on his dad to get accepted to princeton grad school

and he obviously deserved it. supposedly when he was applying he got a great recommendation from one of the other professors in his dad’s department who was astounded that Ed mastered the Jackson textbook in like 2 weeks. Ed clearly has this uncanny ability to understand any hard paper or long advanced textbook 10x faster than any normal high-IQ person.

anyhow i lost my train of thought here sorry

[Anonymous No.14741314]

>>14741306

>astounded that Ed mastered the Jackson textbook in like 2 weeks. Ed clearly has this uncanny ability to understand any hard paper or long advanced textbook 10x faster than any normal high-IQ person.

you know, mabey he just asked his dad

[Anonymous No.14741320]

>>14740496
>>14740786


same thing with learn general relativity in 10 days, his dad specialized in general relativity, so if he doesn't understand something, he could just ask his dad

[Anonymous No.14741322]

>>14741314
i’m sure Louis didn’t have the first clue about Jackson’s book. it came out after Louis was already a father and Ed was already a tween. Louis didn’t even study quantum field theory or even vanilla field theory; he was a relativist, and what those guys study is not at all related to the classical field theory you learn from Jackson

[Anonymous No.14741358]

>>14738648
>kabbalah about whether the "11th" sefirot
Well, that's an easy peasy part.
Why is it so that atheists almost always know religious texts better than religious people?

[Anonymous No.14741368]

>Such is Tao's reputation that mathematicians now compete to interest him in their problems, and he is becoming a kind of Mr Fix-it for frustrated researchers. "If you're stuck on a problem, then one way out is to interest Terence Tao," says Charles Fefferman [professor of mathematics at Princeton University].[33]

Reminder that string theory as a field only exists because Tao never took interest in it

[Anonymous No.14741392]

>>14741368
well tell Tao to take an interest in it. if he debunked string theory then it would be like a new renaissance of new ideas. already most of the young people like Sabrina Pasternak and Geoff Pennington pay lip service to string theory while doing research that has nothing to do with strings. even “string theorist” Daniel Harlow has been accused by Lubos Motl of “knowing nothing about string theory”

the younger generation of high energy physicists pays ironic lip service to string theory while focusing on holography. black hole information, and more general aspects of quantum gravity. it would be a hugely beneficial move if we could excise “string theory” from this conversation.

i fear a lot of the reason why “string theory” is still given the center stage is because of David Gross still holding our hope that the cringe 1980s “heterotic string” (lol) might still be the ToE. such a hopeless thing to hang onto

[Anonymous No.14741582]

>>14741306

>i’ve personally looked into the backstory of the big string theorists including Ed.


You have information on Witten's mother? there doesn't seem to be any infromation on her.

[Anonymous No.14741587]

>>14741059
>Anti-gravity is theoretically possible under string theory if gravitons can negative spin.
You have no fucking clue

[Anonymous No.14743502]

>>14738938
>>14740133
If they both haven't accomplished anything, then what is the point of genius intelligence at all?

[Anonymous No.14743509]

>>14743502
read first post

[Anonymous No.14744290]

>>14738575
>RELENTLESS mathematical attacks
why are low-T ꜱoyboys in STEM obsessed with using macho language when talking about writing shit on a fucking piece of paper? there's nothing manly about uploading a paper or proving some moron wrong

this is so pussified and estrogenic

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[Anonymous No.14744297]

>>14744290
another reddit thing newfags do on /sci/ is simp over other academics, in a homo, submissive, sissy hypno kind of way, ball n cock in a cuck cage, and everything, like this pathetic loser here:
>>14741368
>>14741392

[Anonymous No.14744608]

>>14744290
Edward (and half of the anons here, probably) is manlier than you, cope.

[Anonymous No.14744615]

>>14744608
He has a second brain stored in his chin

[Anonymous No.14744658]

So has String theory been disproved or not

https://www.quantamagazine.org/dark-energy-may-be-incompatible-with-string-theory-20180809/

[Anonymous No.14744666]

>>14744658
> By NATALIE WOLCHOVER
i am pretty sure whatever this article says you can safely ignore it

[Anonymous No.14744746]

>>14744290
>there's nothing manly about
There manly about being a mass replying, monkey pox ridden faggot, but that didn't stop you from making this post.

[Anonymous No.14744757]

>>14744290
>there's nothing manly about
There's nothing manly about being a mass replying, monkey pox ridden faggot, but that didn't stop you from making this post.

[Anonymous No.14744761]

>>14744658
No, it may be wrong but and the other GUTs are in a state of in determination.

[Anonymous No.14744814]

>>14738575
>his main strength as a physicist has been RELENTLESS mathematical attacks on the most obscure corner cases of “problems” in theoretical physics
Honestly this makes him GIGABASED. Physicists are known mathlets. It's so nice to see someone bother to dab on them so hard. Most of us just ignore the retards.

[Anonymous No.14744818]

>>14738580
>tl;dr Witten has mostly acted as that mathematical douche who has shot down typical theoretical physics using crazy math his whole career.
Gloriously based.

[Anonymous No.14744837]

>>14744658
String theory is already beyond being able to be "disproved" due to the AdS/CFT correspondence tying it to established physics.

The string phenomenology paradigm involving the landscape and Calabi-Yau manifolds and all that is not what most string theorists have been doing in the last 20 years, even though that is what pop sci still focuses on and what people like Peter Woit continue to criticize. It would be great if it were possible to "disprove" it, but the swampland idea that the quantamagazine article is talking about is pretty handwavy sloppy physics, not much better than the kind of anthropic principle stuff people love to hate.

[Anonymous No.14744903]

>>14744757
stay mad, estrogenboy
>>14744608
nope, look at how defensive you are
only a pussy would assert his manliness

[Anonymous No.14744908]

>>14744615
omg I knooooow! and I bet his CAWK is so thick and tasty rigght??!!! I bet he has 3 more brains: 1 in each testicle and one at the tip of his cawk teeeheeee~!!!!!! *does a faggot spin* cause I'm a thriller thriller night! oh nyeeess

[Anonymous No.14746850]

>>14744908
Witten is all brain. except for the cock. that's still flesh.

[Anonymous No.14748390]

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