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SAFE and EFFECTIVE

>> No.14721984

>>14721978
The factor is global warming, chud.

>> No.14721988

>>14721978
Vaccine wasn't even available in my country in april 2021 but I'm still going to blame this on the vaccine because I want people to get angry and start getting violent

>> No.14721992

>>14721988
>I want people to get angry and start getting violent
Based. I wonder how many people are just waiting for shit to finally hit the fan so that physical removal of NPCs can begin.

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>>14721978

>> No.14721998
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>>14721978
Here's your real factor:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586 -022 -00403 -0
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/even-mild-covid-can-increase-the-risk-of-heart-problems/
https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o378
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/03/31/after-covid-19-experts-say-watch-for-these-potential-heart-and-brain-problems
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2789793

>> No.14722000

>>14721998
>retarded shill keeps reposting the same refuted propaganda over and over
Even your own handlers have already admitted that this is false in numerous occasions.

>> No.14722006

>>14721978
>Young persons
Ah yes, I'm sure that it's a proper analysis if they can't even name the age range they are talking about.
Why don't you do us a favour and stay on twitter?

>> No.14722011

>>14722000
Post link to refutation
I don't live on this board so idk what this thing is

>> No.14722014

>>14722011
>I don't live on this board
You do. You get paid to spam the same propaganda post at all times of the day.

>> No.14722016

>>14721998
>i-i-it wasn't the vaccine, man, i swear!
>it was long covid!
>which, ugh, is 4x deadlier than the virus itself, yeah!
>and, uhm.... it only affects young people.
imagine unironically believing this horseshit.

>> No.14722019

>>14722016
>imagine unironically believing this horseshit.
I tried but I can't get into the "mind" of an inanimate object. :^(

>> No.14722023

>>14722000
>the same refuted propaganda
Pretending it was refuted does not mean it is though. I know you've lived disconnected from reality for more than a year but you still can't will your delusions into reality.
What was refuted, though, is your antivax propaganda, it's been 'two more weeks" for ages now and none of your predictions ever happened.

>> No.14722025

>>14722023
Doubling down on refuted propaganda doesn't make you any less of an obvious shill. Maybe spam new links once in a while. Either way, your day is coming.

>> No.14722031

>>14722023
"evidence" doesn't need counterevidence to be refuted. all you need to do is provide logical inconsistency. for example, if you claim to have an elegant theory of biology where sex no longer exists, and all species are male... well, i don't need to provide evidence that you're wrong. all i need to do is feel the inside of a warm, wet pussy and know you're wrong. when your "evidence" runs counter to common sense, it can be rejected by way of common sense.

if long covid is the cause, then it should affect all age groups with higher mortalities (it doesn't). if long covid was the cause, it's ludicrous to have a higher mortality than the virus at its peak. the only rational conclusion here is that long covid doesn't pass the smell test.

>> No.14722032

>>14722031
This is cringe. Why are you engaging the shill and implying his propaganda hasn't already been refuted with counter-evidence? Are you on his side by any chance?

>> No.14722033

>>14722025
>Maybe spam new links once in a while.
Why? to counter the same twitter screencaps and conspiracitard websites that you post constantly ?
Sorry but since my sources are valid sources, I can't find new ones everyday just by looking at my favorite tinfoil hat website that simply produce bullshit from scratch.

>> No.14722035
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>>14722031
>absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!

>> No.14722036

>>14722033
>Why?
To make your spam campaign look more organic. It doesn't work when you spam the same thing over and over again and get BTFO every single time. lol

>> No.14722037

>>14722032
not everyone spends 24/7 on this board, dummy. whether or not i do is irrelevant. there are always newfriends, whether you like it or not. they may be unaware of the refutations. you citing they exist ad nauseum isn't an argument. besides, if you have a brainstem, counterevidence isn't even necessary, as i explained.

>> No.14722038

>>14722036
>It doesn't work when you spam the same thing over and over again and get BTFO every single time.
That is exactly what you do and what is happening to YOU everytime.

>>14722032
>implying his propaganda hasn't already been refuted with counter-evidence
We're still waiting by the way.

>> No.14722039

caroline lucas on fascism:
They risk presiding over a frightening descent into what Mhairi Black MP bravely and correctly called out in May – fascism.

As she said back then, fascism doesn’t always arrive wearing leather jackboots – it can come knocking more subtly than that.

So students of fascism have helpfully suggested some of its signs with which to familiarise ourselves.

Disinformation, misogyny, disdain for intellectuals, social conformity, suppression of trade unions, threats to human rights, the creation and abuse of hate groups, the rise of militarisation and, at its heart, racism.

>disinformation
such as wearing a mask stops you getting or transmitting covid; such as covid-19 vaccines stop transmission; such as covid-19 vaccines are safe and effective etc
>misogyny
pregnant women should shut up and take the vacicne? the vaccine doesn't effect periods that's misinformation?
>disdain for intellectuals
such as highly cited epidemologists such as sunetra gupta, martin kulldorf, jay battacharya, michael levitt etc
> social conformity
such as ostracising those who dont wear masks or take the vaccine
> suppression of trade unions
such as lockdowns and banning of protests
>threats to human rights
such as banning families from seeing loved ones; such as saying you are not allowed to leave the house; such as saying you cannot enter this establishmentunless you demonstrate you have had the recent state approved medical procedure etc
> the creation and abuse of hate groups
such as the unvaccinated
>the rise of militarisation
such as the use of army to enforce lockdown
>racism
perhaps the only part of facism we have not had much of although black people have taken the vaccine disproportionately and therefore are implicitly discriminated against more by the aforementioned policies

in sum caroline lucas is correct between 2020-2022 we have lived under fascism

>> No.14722041

>>14722035
not even close to my argument. if that's what you think i'm saying, then you clearly failed the IQ test.

>> No.14722042

>>14722037
>not everyone spends 24/7 on this board
>>14722014
>I don't live on this board
Yep, you're a samefag. I've had this impression for a while that only other shills are still willing to engage with low-tier propaganda.

>> No.14722046

>>14722038
>We're still waiting by the way.
>We're
Is this how oversocialized Pfizer drones soothe their butthurt? By pretending they have some imaginary friends on their side? "We're" not waiting for anything. You are alone and you are hated.

>> No.14722048

>>14721998
>i-it's long covid
Doesn't explain new Zealand and Australia deaths, where everyone was gigavaxxed before opening up and lockdowns used to enforce zero-covid

Moreover, explain this, zero covid deaths although unvaxxed
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/11/world/asia/indonesia-java-buduy-sunda-wiwitan.html

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>>14722042
you're delusional man. i'm over here making mincemeat of the shill, and you think i'm the same person. lol. it's like you don't understand my arguments either (notice how the shill doesn't even have a canned response, because he got owned). you clearly didn't pay attention to the poster count.

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>>14721978
I've tried really hard to reproduce their graph with the sources they have given and I have failed. There is no classification as "young persons". Is it possible that they simply lied? Please try for yourself:
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Provisional-Counts-of-Deaths-by-State-and-S/muzy-jte6
Here's the original picture.

>> No.14722054

>>14722050
If you try to reason with shills instead of derailing them, you are a shill. Period.

>> No.14722058

>>14722014
I'm not the same anon you dumb faggot I was asking for this refutation to be linked

>> No.14722059

>>14722039
>disdain for intellectuals, social conformity, suppression of trade unions
Those morons have no idea what fascism is do they?

>> No.14722061

>>14722042
>Yep, you're a samefag. I've had this impression for a while that only other shills are still willing to engage with low-tier propaganda.

Are you aware that you're not taken seriously anywere outside of 4chan ? if some of us are still wasting time arguing with schizos like you, it's only to get a good laugh at your indoctrination and stupidity.
As long as we have to see your retarded propaganda everyday, you'll have to live with our posts too.

>> No.14722062

>>14722053
>I have failed.
Maybe because your entire identity and worldview now depends on you repeatedly failing at such tasks.

>> No.14722063

>>14722054
room temp iq man, room temp iq.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuaHRN7UhRo

>> No.14722064

>>14722039
Not bad, almost made me reply. But this list reminded me again of how /pol/ really ticks every single item on that list. That's worrying.

>> No.14722066

>>14722059
haha she is such a moron the only green party politician in the uk fully supports zero covid and all that shit and then july 2022 comes out with this shit about how now we are suddenly becoming fascists lol

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>>14722061
> you're not taken seriously anywere outside of 4chan
Then why do you constantly spam 4chan trying to change my mind? Why do your handlers have documented shilling campaigns here?

>> No.14722068

>>14722062
Please reproduce their graph. The data they claim cannot be found in their sources.

>> No.14722069

>>14722068
>Please reproduce their graph
Why would I need to? Their graph is fine as it is.

>> No.14722070

>>14722069
>i can't think for myself
embarrassing

>> No.14722071

>>14722070
Who are you quoting? Are you having another psychotic episode?

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>>14722067
>Then why do you constantly spam 4chan trying to change my mind?
I don't think any of us are trying to change your mind, we just enjoy showing everyone where you're wrong. We don't want more scientifically illiterate people falling into the schizo rabbit holes you've manufactured and getting out completely batshit like some of you.

> Why do your handlers have documented shilling campaigns here?

>> No.14722075

>>14722073
>I don't think any of us are trying to change your mind
Then why do you keep desperately reposting the same spam over and over, and why do you get so angry when it's dismissed?

>> No.14722080

>>14722069
No it's not. It shows things that cannot be found in their data.

>> No.14722081

>>14722071
i'll break it down for you. you're a champion of science[math]^{\text{TM}}[/math] are you not? a cornerstone of the scientific method is replication, and reproducibility. if you accept plots as is, without even attempting to reproduce them, then you admit at least two things: 1) you are incapable of reproducing the data yourself and by extension 2) are therefore an unreliable narrator on what the analysis of the data actually shows. in other words, you're admitting you lack scientific training. which of course begs the question: what's a chump like you doing shilling science[math]^{\text{TM}}[/math]?

>> No.14722084

>>14722075
>Then why do you keep desperately reposting the same spam over and over, and why do you get so angry when it's dismissed?
You're still describing exactly what YOU are doing, posting the same thing everyday and seething when you see counterarguments. I don't know about other anons but I'm not angry at all, I enjoy seeing antivaxxers getting mad.
At the end, in the real world, your side of the debate isn't deciding anyting.

>> No.14722085

>>14722075
Stop (You)ing him, he's paid per (You)

>> No.14722087

>>14722080
>It shows things that cannot be found in their data.
Prove it.
>Uhhh sweaty, I failed to reproduce the graph
That doesn't prove anything.

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>>14722084
>we
>us
>any of us
>the other anons
The absolute desperation... You are alone and you are hated.

>> No.14722089

>>14722087
>Prove it.
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Provisional-Counts-of-Deaths-by-State-and-S/muzy-jte6
No "Young persons" in here.

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>>14722081
>you accept plots as is, without even attempting to reproduce them
Yes. Problem?

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>>14722089
>No "Young persons" in here.
So? This is truly pathetic.

>> No.14722096

>>14722093
So how can you create a graph of all deaths of young persons?

>> No.14722099

>>14722096
Why couldn't you? You sound legitimately retarded. lol

>> No.14722101

>>14721998
none of these sources show that it was caused by longcoivd

>> No.14722102

do none of you retards ever go to the source? the guy in the first tweet has a further tweet in the chain that defines what a young person is

>> No.14722104

>>14722099
>not thinking for himself

>> No.14722105

>>14722104
Back to the psychotic spam, are we? I accept your concession.

>> No.14722107

>>14722102
No one defines it there.

>> No.14722108

>>14722102
I know, but I guess you need a refresher on the fact that you should derail and frustrate shills instead of arguing with them.

>> No.14722109

>>14722105
>I accept your concession.
Oh it's you, the shinobi. Yes, I concede, the hidden village of the leaf has defeated me. Now go naruto-run home, sperg

>> No.14722110

>>14722107
https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1553791546352439297
are you retarded?

>> No.14722112

>>14722110
>In separate analyses and charts on the same issue.
This does not define how they extracted the "young people" in the graph.

>> No.14722115

>>14722088
>The absolute desperation... You are alone and you are hated.
That is the best proof that you are living inside your head.

>>14722101
>none of these sources show that it was caused by longcoivd
It's because it isn't, Covid increases your risk of cardiovascular issues, long covid or not.
Covid can damage several organs, not only the heart and some people are developing new health issues months after Covid because of that.

>> No.14722117

>>14722112
keep digging buddy. you already proved you lack scientific training. now you're proving you can't even read.

>> No.14722118

>>14722112
no comment honestly fuck me

>> No.14722119

>>14722115
You are alone and you are hated.

>> No.14722123

>>14722117
>>14722118
I warned you about reasoning with shills. The correct tactic is to drag them down to irrelevant personal attacks so they don't even get to spread their preprogrammed message.

>> No.14722127

>>14722119
>You are alone and you are hated.
You are likely projecting. But since you'll use any of my further answers to prove your inexistant point, I'll let you have the last word.
Enjoy your delusions.

>> No.14722129
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df = pd.read_csv(r'Weekly_Provisional_Counts_of_Deaths_by_State_and_Select_Causes__2020-2022.csv')
df = df[df['Jurisdiction of Occurrence'] == 'United States']
df['Natural-Covid'] = df['Natural Cause'] - df['COVID-19 (U071, Multiple Cause of Death)'] - df['COVID-19 (U071, Underlying Cause of Death)']
df.plot(x='Week Ending Date', y='Natural-Covid')

So, for even for all ages, not just the young people, I get lower values of deaths than them. They just made this up completely.

>> No.14722134

>>14722129
finally, a scientist. this matches what i got as well.

>> No.14722136

>>14722127
You are alone, you are hated and you are afraid. Those "schizos" you were sobbing about a few posts ago? Their ranks grow by the day. The more you post, the more you are hated.

>> No.14722140

>>14722129
>shills getting desperate
Can't you at least try to lie convincingly?

>> No.14722143

>inexistant
you're the ESL eurocuck "postdoc" chump in all the climate threads as well, aren't you? how the fuck do you have so much free time as a "postdoc"? either you're lying (likely), or this "postdoc" is all about paying you to shill. pathetic.

>> No.14722145

>>14722140
+50pyб

>> No.14722150

>>14722143
>the ESL eurocuck "postdoc" chump in all the climate threads
Is this ESL eurocuck "postdoc" chump currently in the room with us?
Also, why do you have so much time?

>> No.14722151

>>14722145
>but what about muh russian boogeymen
Confirmed shill. They really did skimp on your basic training.

>> No.14722168

>>14722151
+10pyб only
This "russian boogeyman" victimhood is a bit much cliche and we already have RT for that. You are being paid for confusion and degradation, don't forget, tovarich.

>> No.14722169

>>14722115
>It's because it isn't
>Covid can damage several organs, not only the heart and some people are developing new health issues

you are contradicting yourself and that is a clear sign that you have nothing to say.
if you declare something stand your ground, don't say later that it was caused indirectly

>> No.14722173

>>14722150
easy. firstly, i'm mostly here before work, and sometimes after. yet, every time i'm on, i see the easily identifiable posts by you at all hours of the day, barring a few hours (likely when you sleep). secondly, it's summer. i have postdocs under my tutelage to do my heavy research load for me. so i spend my day writing grants.

>> No.14722181

>>14722173
Is this from an academia fanfic of yours?

>> No.14722184

>>14722181
why do you have so much free time? are you lying about your job? i think that's the most likely answer. you're paid to shill. you're here for all hours of the day. you realize you can make so much more money working OT at mcdonald's right?

>> No.14722192

>>14722184
(samefagging)
hmm actually, thinking about it... i think i got it. you (the shill) have some undisclosed health issues which prevent you from working. that's it, right?

>> No.14722196

>>14722184
>I'm always here and I think I'm talking to the same person every time
>Why do you have so much time?
>I-I mean, I only come here very rarely
>But you are surely this guy who always talks to me
>See it always says Anonymous
Man... call your doc, I think, you need higher doses of whatever helps you

>> No.14722202

>>14722196
posts are static dummy. if i come into a thread with 300 replies... there are time stamps. you're also easily identifiable.

>> No.14722204

>>14722143
I guess you were quoting my post. No I'm not that guy but it would not be weird if there was several non-native english speakers here.
I never discuss climat change because it's not at all my area of expertise. Health kind of is though.

>>14722169
>you are contradicting yourself
In what way ? You will not be diagnosed with long-covid if you are asymptomatic but that doesn't mean Covid hasn't damaged anything in your body.

You'll see, in a few years, cases of hypothyroidism and even diabetes will be, rightly, attributed to past covid infections. But if you don't have any sign of hypothyroidism before the symptoms begin, you would not be diagnosed with long-covid.

>> No.14722206
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14722206

>Antivaxxers lie yet again

>> No.14722213
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>>14722041
>Actually, it's a fallacy so you're dumb!

>> No.14722217

>>14722206
oh i feel so much better now reuters fact checked it thank goodness they are always correct

>> No.14722218
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>> No.14722221

>>14722168
Hillary lost. Biden lost. Zelensky lost. Putin won. :^)

>> No.14722222

>>14721978
Hmmm, I wonder what could have happened during a pandemic which was allowed to spread uncontrolled through many populations .... oh right.

>> No.14722223

>>14722204
>You will not be diagnosed with long-covid
so you agree that their is no indication for long covid in the context of this thread like you said here >>14721998
so why are you insist that this is the "real factor"?

>> No.14722224

>>14722217
No way, I trust some random NEET with a twitter account much more.

>> No.14722227

>>14722218
Do mongoloidal shills realize that posting fact checks proves the opposite of what they're trying to defend? If your known and documented scammers are going out of their way to "deboonk" something, it tells me they're afraid.

>> No.14722232
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14722232

While we're at it
>Fact Check-COVID-19 vaccination does not increase risk of miscarriage
Just inb4 you cycle through the lies again

>If your known and documented scammers are going out of their way to "deboonk" something, it tells me they're afraid.
So, your Russian propaganda accounts on twitter showing graphs that do not show the data they claim, it's ok. But if someone shows the opposite, it proves that they are lying? Say what?

>> No.14722234

>>14722227
kek.

You guys are really reaching now.

>> No.14722237

>>14722224
>i trust the random person being paid to say x more than the random person not being paid to say anything
hmm if you say so

>> No.14722241
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14722241

Keep dying, unvaxxed cattle. I wonder how much longer until /sci/ is usable again.

>> No.14722245

>>14722232
>Russian propaganda
russian proganda that makes russians antivaxxers too?

>> No.14722246

>>14722237
>the random person not being paid to say anything
Think again.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/05/us/politics/covid-vaccines-russian-disinformation.html

>> No.14722247

>>14722241
>this graph
never saw one with age group

>> No.14722249

>>14722234
I'm just telling you how mentally sound people react when they see the words "fact check". You are too mentally ill to realize this, I guess.

>> No.14722250

>>14722246
>2
you illiterate?

>> No.14722253
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14722253

>>14722241
>fully vaccinated
why don't you show deaths for the other vaccinated vaxxnigger?

>> No.14722256

>>14722223
I never said anything about long-covid. But some deaths that aren't even attributed to Covid could be because of Covid effects outside of long-covid.
In the context of this thread it's at least as valid as implying that they are attributed to the vaccines.

I'm not "insisting" on anything. In fact I'm pretty sure OP's graph is entirely fake and doesn't show anything meaningful. I just answer dumb propaganda with something more tangible than "vax le bad because it is ok"

>> No.14722259

>>14722247
Here you go. Wasn't that hard:
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination

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>>14722253
Um, João, this
1. shows that the unvaccinated die the most.
2. is not adjusted per capita

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>>14722256
>Covid effects outside of long-covid

>> No.14722277

>>14722259
>ages 20-29
>0.33 in 100000 at the pick
so what is the purpose of the horror graph you showed earlier?

>> No.14722286

>>14722256
>it's at least as valid as implying that they are attributed to the vaccines
so you actually admit that you are a propagandist and then when you are exposed you point to another propagandist

>> No.14722294

>>14722115
And how do we separate Covid from vax as potential causes of long-term heart disease? Because myo/pericarditis from the vax is usually more severe than the same from the coof. Hadn't heart of very many <10 year olds keeling over from a heart attack before schools started trying to push them into every toddler's arm.

>> No.14722298

>>14722277
I know, this is hard to imagine, but not everyone is 20-29 years old. Also, dying is not the only bad thing that can happen to you. Even if you think, you are invincible.

>> No.14722301

>>14722294
>myo/pericarditis from the vax is usually more severe than the same from the coof
[Citation needed]

>> No.14722315

>>14722298
>but not everyone is 20-29 years old
agree, but why forcing young people to get it?
and why are you so sure this board will be emptied of those who didn't take it?

>> No.14722317

i genuinely can't believe there are any even remotely informed people shilling the vax for young people still

>> No.14722321

>>14722315
>why forcing young people to get it?
If people were forced, then how come you're not vaccinated?

>> No.14722324

>>14722317
>shilling the vax for young people still
Oh no, I wouldn't shill the vax, covid is essentially over except for those antivaxxers who feel the need to create such threads on a daily basis.

>> No.14722326

>>14722324
well considering unvaccinated still aren't allowed in many countries in the world it's no surprise they still aren't happy

>> No.14722330

>>14722321
well, you dont know if i am or not and you can conclude what you want but there are many who take it and regret.
and people couldn't work and support themselves because they are not vaccinated, what do you call this thing?

>> No.14722331

>>14722326
Which ones?

>> No.14722333

>>14722330
>people couldn't work and support themselves because they are not vaccinated
In what part of the world? Certainly not where I live.

>> No.14722336

>>14722331
usa is the biggest

>> No.14722340

>>14722333
>In what part of the world?
most of the countries in the west, china for sure, australia etc...

>> No.14722343

>>14722336
"unvaccinated aren't allowed" in the USA?

>>14722340
Oh, China! Wow. And no, I live in "the West" and you could always work here. In Germany they tried to make it mandatory for nurses only, but it was just noise. Not a single unvaccinated nurse was fired or blocked from entering her workplace.

>> No.14722345

>>14722343
as an unvaccinated foreigner there is to my knowledge no way of me legally entering the usa that is correct

>> No.14722348

>>14722343
did you forget to have a special passport, and a small sticker that signifies you are a good citizen?

>> No.14722352

>>14722345
What "force" is that? "We are not letting you into our shithole", but citizens can always leave and enter? I honestly don't consider this force.

>> No.14722356

>>14722352
what are you talking about? i said people still complain about the vaccine because they are still barred from entering some countries for not taking it what are you so confused about lol

>> No.14722365

>>14722356
You claimed "they" were forcing "us" to get vaccinated, which is simply false. Whatever the US does to noncitizens literally doesn't matter. Among all the things the US government does to foreigners, this is easily the most harmless thing.

>> No.14722368

>>14722365
are you illiterate?
do you want to try reading this conversation again
>>14722317
>>14722324
>>14722326
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>>14722336
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14722369

Reminder that only physical removal is an appropriate response to a self-branded Pfizer drone.

>> No.14722370

>you're not allowed to complain about something because there are worse things in the world
some real einsteins we got here lads

>> No.14722377

>>14722368
>are you illiterate?
No, but I'm allowed to enter the United States :^)
(Not that I wanted to)

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>>14722365
>You claimed "they" were forcing "us" to get vaccinated, which is simply false.
well good luck for the "unvacinated" slip through HR management

>> No.14722385

>>14722377
i'm glad you admit i am right then

>> No.14722386

>>14722380
Again, no idea what shithole you live in, but HR is not allowed to ask for your vaccination status in my part of the world. Are they allowed to ask where you are?

>> No.14722397

>>14722386
>Are they allowed to ask where you are?
yap, this is what the vaccine passport is all about.
are you from US?

>> No.14722401

>>14722397
I'm not from the US, I'm from a country where medical conditions and vaccines are considered a private matter and your employer is not allowed to ask about any of that, unless it is directly related to your job (let's say you have a business trip to countries that won't let you in without a yellow fever vaccine, then they would ask before sending you)

>> No.14722402

getting real
>let me tell you about your country
vibes from posters here

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>>14722401
>unless it is directly related to your job
i can't find any scenario where it doesn't.
look i dont know where you live altho i can guess since not many countries are avoided the global vaccine policies(at that time(and i believe it will come again)), anyhow most of the western countries employ those restrictions and laws, and even if it is not implemented in whatever you are you must have know it somehow unless you are a complete retard

>> No.14722432

Derail status: Complete success!

>> No.14722433

Based, Let the global culling begin, we need to decrease global population by atleast 40% by the end of century, 60% should be the target.

>> No.14722454

>>14722422
>not many countries are avoided the global vaccine policies
Most of them have abolished them.

>> No.14722458

>>14722454
well yeh for now, but all they have to do to bring them back is to push on the emergency button

>> No.14723231

>>14722073
You haven't presented any evidence at all and you are certainly not a scientist. A scientist does accept fantastic claims without fantastic evidence. You do not have the disposition of a scientist, but a cultist. Explain how you have used the scientific method to come to your conclusions without invoking an appeal to authority argument.