/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.14706221]

zoomers cuck'd themselves out of $3.9 trillion with their laughably naïve trust in science.
bill gates laughing all the way to the bank again

[Anonymous No.14706337]

>>14706221
So billionaires created 0.2 trillion of riches, what's the problem here, that you didn't create any?

[Anonymous No.14708213]

>>14706221
Go back to your containment board, incel.

If you don't want to be a poor white trash retard living in a trailer park, then maybe you should go to college and get an education, instead of blaming all your problems in life on globalists or the elites or the new world order, or whatever the latest conspiracy theory happens to be.

[Anonymous No.14708312]

>>14706221
>zoomers cuck'd themselves out of $3.9 trillion with their laughably naïve trust in science.
No, it's millennials. It's us.

[Anonymous No.14708508]

>>14706221
Remember who it was pushing the hardest for the lockdowns, masks, injections, and all the rest of that garbage? Seems like they got what they asked for.

[Anonymous No.14708548]

young + naïve + low iq + bad education + poor = zoomer

[Anonymous No.14708926]

>>14706221
I find it hard to believe that billionaires in general got riche during the pandemic, except perhaps Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates. I'd like to see some backing to these claims. The economy as a whole got battered.
Were any oil trillionaires getting richer when oil got into negative price and they paid you to take oil from the fields?

[Anonymous No.14710020]

>>14708508

[Anonymous No.14710158]

>>14706221
>Hey man they are just extracting value from you labor
>>ok i trust you professor
>>does no labor
>billionaires get richer by 3.9 trillion
>uh man that uh
>>Stay away from me you smell like weed

[Anonymous No.14710200]

>>14708926
>I find it hard to believe that billionaires in general got riche during the pandemic, except perhaps Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates
>Increased money supply and lowered interest rates
>Government bailouts
>Small businesses closing (less competition)
>Shorting the stock market
>Insider trading

[Anonymous No.14710245]

>>14710200
So you are saying airlines, hotels, oil companies, Hollywood and trucking billionaires got richer during the pandemic?

[Anonymous No.14710251]

>>14708926
You will become deeply upset if you ever research economic trends and who owns what.

[Anonymous No.14710263]

>>14710251
Only 2 trillion?
So who are these 8 men? The rothschilds themselves are hundreds of people
Theres likely around 400 trillion dollars in capital in the whole world. Thats not cash but capital, its mostly the value in land and buildings, 2 trillion not so much

[Anonymous No.14710314]

>>14706221
>>14708312
Who stole everybody's productivity?
Chart is related.

How is it that Productivity and Salaries completely disconnected?
Companies and super rich became richer.
Stocks and director salaries soared.
While workers compensation did not go anywhere.

Explain this.

[Anonymous No.14710343]

>>14710158
>>does no labor
cry me a river.
Explain chart here: >>14710314
Why people lost 50% in salaries, while providing massive increases in productivity?

>trucking billionaires
Don't know any, name one.... but yes. Everybody got locked in homes, shopping was done by home deliveries. Trucks had to deliver it.

[Anonymous No.14710356]

>>14710251
So the bottom 50% only own 426billion total?
Thats like $110 each, for 3.8 billion people
No idea why the rest of the image tries to trick people into an antisemitic conspiracy

[Anonymous No.14710371]

>>14708926
>Were any oil trillionaires getting richer when oil got into negative price
received compensation from the government(your tax)

[Anonymous No.14710388]

>>14710251
The rothschilds are listed on the forbes list, you retard

[Anonymous No.14710393]

>>14710314
We have Few real jobs and too many people. Companies hire to improve bottom line or please the government, around 70% of employees have no immediate effect on companies earnings, the big question is why do they hire so many people. The answer is to get tax breaks. Taxation has successfully plunged humanity to the deadly abyss of meaningless jobs. We are living in a modern version of hell. You don’t exist and your work has no value. You are a number in the balance sheet.

[Anonymous No.14710394]

>>14710245
The wealthy understand 'buy low, sell high' and almost as importantly, have the capital to do it. The wealthy were able to buy up lots of assets during the pandemic at fire sale prices.

[Anonymous No.14710410]

>>14710388
Find me Jacob Rothschild on this list.

https://www.forbes.com/real-time-billionaires/#6ddc5f013d78

[Anonymous No.14710418]

>>14710371
>received compensation from the government(your tax)
I dont believe this. Prove it. Prove they received compensation equal to their losses.
One thing i noticed about oil is that everyone attacks them during times of expensive oil such as now, but nobody pities them during times of low prices. Even now during "record profit time" they lost tens of billions in assets in Russia they just had to abandon, not a single thank you.

[Anonymous No.14710422]

>>14706221
>That means that the billionaires took the 3.9 trillion from the workers
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
Yes, the rich and powerful keep doing this, but your picture still is retarded and has nothing to do with science.
Also, this keeps happening because you polcels keep voting for people like Dubya and the Donald. But that's a discussion we should have in /pol/, not /sci/ so go back.

[Anonymous No.14710427]

>>14710371
>Oil got negative price
I'd like to expand on this a little. Oil is ENERGY. Energy goes before anything else, before any paper (stocks) or speculation. If you don't have energy you don't have an economy , basically.

Paper Oil PRICE in storage by SPECULATORS went negative for 1 night. Possible that some one big speculator or a shark was trying to eat another speculator or a shark or a bunch of smaller fish.

[Anonymous No.14710432]

>>14710410
>Musk
not Jewish
>Arnault
Jewish
>Bezos
Not Jewish
>Adami
Not Jewish
>Gates
Not Jewish

Yeah, obviously it's as /pol/cels tell us. I think, their logic is "I'm white non-Jewish trailor park trash, so I bet I'm only human garbage because I'm not Jewish REEEE"

[Anonymous No.14710436]

>>14710432
*tips mutilated dick*

[Anonymous No.14710442]

>>14710356
>So the bottom 50% only own 426billion total?
>That's like $110 each, for 3.8 billion people
And that is why current so called "Capitalist" system is collapsing , and we need to either restart this Monopoly game or create a new one.

>>14710393
>We have Few real jobs and too many people.
I agree with you.
Currently top 3 industries in USA are : 1) Financial, 2) Government, 3) Healthcare.
Financial is bankers, mortgages , stocks, financialization of everything. This is a parasitic industry, it makes people financial slaves.
Government should not be #2. We have gov that is too big. But you can take more taxes and give it to your friends who do gov contractors like Military Industrial Complex.
Healthcare is a death care, they don't heal people, primary purpose of this industry is to maintain half sick population and to put you permanently on drugs.

The fact that all 3 of them are larger than the Energy industry is astounding.

We need to cut all 3 of those parasites by 75%.

[Anonymous No.14710444]

>>14710427
>Paper Oil PRICE in storage by SPECULATORS went negative for 1 night.
So? The price was still super low the entire time. Were oil companies getting richer from low prices and reduced demand?

[Anonymous No.14710446]

>>14710436
You are mistaken. I am not a subhuman American. My parents didn't cut off a third of my dick because the cornflakes man told them to.

[Anonymous No.14710449]

>>14710442
>We need to cut all 3 of those parasites by 75%.
What's the logic here? You don't have enough jobs, so you want to decimate the jobs in the most successful industries? Because ... that would achieve what exactly? Wouldn't you have even fewer jobs then?

[Anonymous No.14710454]

>>14710449
>that would achieve what exactly?
It would increase profits into all the other industries. Banks and finance and healthcare keep doing what they do but will lower compensation, that is passed to the rest of the economy

[Anonymous No.14710462]

>>14710418
>I dont believe this. Prove it
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/02/fossil-fuel-companies-billions-tax-breaks-workers

[Anonymous No.14710466]

>>14710454
>It would increase profits into all the other industries
Why? How? Why would your plumber ass earn more per pipe just because some nurses and bankers are unemployed now?

[Anonymous No.14710472]

>>14710444
>Were oil companies getting richer from low prices and reduced demand?

I'll give you an example.
We have a Rockfeller's Standard Oil monopoly, which was broken up and is currently getting back together via Exxon Mobil + Sunoco + Chevron + Marathon Oil. Maybe I forgot a few smaller ones, still the same Rockfeller's monopoly.
So. Old Rockfeller tricks were to bankrupt all competitors and buy on the cheap.

It is entirely possible that a massive oil depot that was hit by speculators , was a target of Rockfellers take over. It may have either gone bankrupt or received a takeover offer in the morning that they couldn't refuse.
While speculative price later normalized.

Most oil companies use various protections, such as insurance and Derivatives, as the industry is fairly risky.
A random oil company may have had puts and calls in their portfolio structured correctly so that once a price went lower than X their derivatives started bringing serious money the lower the price went.

Maybe some whistleblower will eventually step up and tell the story.

[Anonymous No.14710476]

>>14710466
>Why? How? Why would your plumber ass earn more per pipe just because some nurses and bankers are unemployed now?
Say interest on loans is reduced, then banks get less money while everyone else pays less to banks. That means you get to keep more of your own money, that means theres more money to spend. Perhaps more people will hire plumbers and pay them more if they have spare money from lower interest rates.
That is how. Idem with healthcare.
And bankers would not go unemployed, they would just get paid a lot less

[Anonymous No.14710480]

>>14710472
What is the purpose of writing such a random-ass tale?

[Anonymous No.14710481]

>>14710472
Maybe the environmentalists are right and we should just stop burning oil?

[Anonymous No.14710486]

>>14710314
The fact that people still believe in reaganomics is astounding

[Anonymous No.14710489]

>>14710476
>Say interest on loans is reduced
Only corporations and subhumans take loans.
>That means you get to keep more of your own money, that means theres more money to spend.
No, I get to keep all of my money. I think, I pay my bank €1.50 for my monthly payment to my ETF savings plan. I could also not invest my money and keep everything, but the €1.50 are easily worth it.
Don't spend money you don't have.

[Anonymous No.14710491]

>>14710432
You know why that list is total fraud? Because it only lists people whose source of wealth is publicly known, And a lot of that wealth is in stocks, it's not tangible.

Pablo Escobar was a cartel overlord gorillionaire, he only made into the list only when his front businesses themselves became worth that much, This is exactly the reason why you don't have any generational Bankers like Jacob Rothschild on that list, a lot of their wealth is physical (big mansions, gold, etc) and their source of income is diverse, complex and historical, it's not publicky known.

[Anonymous No.14710498]

>>14710472
>>14710480
Because that is how business in real life works.
Someone asked if oil companies got richer.
In my example: 1) Rockfellers oil companies got richer as they bought a competitor on the cheap via a hostile takover , and
2) some random oil company with correctly structured derivatives may have earned massive profits from price of oil falling this low.

[Anonymous No.14710500]

>>14710489
>I think, I pay my bank €1.50 for my monthly payment to my ETF savings plan. I c
You pay banks when you buy anything. Corporations pay banks, when you pay a corporation part of that money goes to a bank.
10% of general expenses are going to finance, this includes banks and insurance

[Anonymous No.14710501]

>>14710491
Why are you so obsessed with that family?

[Anonymous No.14710504]

>>14710314
>While workers compensation did not go anywhere.
Why would it?
Shit got automated a lot. That doesn't increase the value generated by the bathroom cleaners.

[Anonymous No.14710508]

>>14710500
>You pay banks when you buy anything.
Don't they have cash in your country? When I exchange 50 cents for a pretzel, no bank takes 5 cents out of my hand.

[Anonymous No.14710510]

>>14710498
>Someone asked if oil companies got richer.
I specifically asked about the pandemic and you wrote about some Eisenhower-tier historical lesson. Why are you trying to deflect attention, who are you protecting?

[Anonymous No.14710515]

>>14710508
>no bank takes 5 cents out of my hand.
You pay a grocery store that gives 5 cents to a bank

[Anonymous No.14710521]

>>14710454
>>14710449
>you want to decimate the jobs in the most successful industries?

The problem is that we are paying too high of a price.
People are financial slaves to bankers - they pay 30 years mortgages, and/or move or refinance for another 30 years etc and they are stuck in debd to banksters their entire lives.
Great to bankers, great for faking GPD where you added financials and services.
Extremely bad for the people and the economy.
with money sent to bankers you can't buy new stuff, you can't create new companies. Small business is destroyed, and small business used to be over 50% of all jobs.

Government wastes humongous amounts of money. spends massive billions of dollars on various friends and government contractors, starting from companies in MIC. Some gov contractors like Lokheed Martin are being paid $360/hour for their work in unrelated industries, for instance. This is how much Social Security Administration used to pay.
They literally pillage our taxes. It is extremely ridiculous and should be addressed if we are ever to figure out ways to improve our economy.

[Anonymous No.14710522]

>>14710515
First of all, pretzels are sold by bakers, not grocery stores, and second of all, why would they? What service do they provide? Okay, they will take the cash and add it to their balance and let them transfer the money to flour wholesale, but they surely don't take 10% of that.

[Anonymous No.14710524]

>>14710521
>they pay 30 years mortgages, and/or move or refinance for another 30 years etc and they are stuck in debd to banksters their entire lives.
Then don't? I don't get it. I don't own real estate and I don't have a mortgage.

[Anonymous No.14710528]

>>14710481
>Maybe the environmentalists are right and we should just stop burning oil?

Not really . At this point I Believe environmentalists are paid shills by the Oil industry.
They hate any possible REAL alternatives to the Oil industry - Nuclear and Coal are the two. They HATE Nuclear and coal with passion.
And they push tech that doesn't really work - solar and wind.
Clearly paid by the Big Oil.

[Anonymous No.14710529]

>>14710446
You speak like one.

[Anonymous No.14710532]

>>14710522
>What service do they provide?
All businesses have loans. They pay banks for the interest. Even the businesses that dont borrow money they also buy supplies from other businesses that do have loans.
Banks on average take 10% of any random business profit. Its more on some businesses and less in others.
Do you have a house and paid in cash? Well the builder had loans to pay. Even without a mortgage some of your cash payment went to a bank

[Anonymous No.14710533]

>>14710529
Thanks for the compliment on my language proficiency and fuck you for the attack on my intellect.

[Anonymous No.14710534]

>>14710524
People in USA on average sell a house and move every 7 years.
Usually because of jobs or personal circumstances - they get married, divorced etc.
Even if every 10 - you get a house, 30 year mortgage, you pay mostly interest to the bank first 10 years. Then you sell it and move, get another house, another 30 year mortgage.
Basically they never pay off their mortgages to the banks and are permanent banker slaves.

[Anonymous No.14710535]

>>14710524
So you pay rent?

[Anonymous No.14710586]

>>14710528
Why the fuck do you think coal is an alternative to oil?

[Anonymous No.14710587]

>>14710535
Yes. Like most people in my country.
>>14710534
So how does it work? Do you get a bunch of cash and keep your mortgage? Do you get out of the mortgage and sign a new one for your next house?

[Anonymous No.14710591]

>>14710314
>How is it that Productivity and Salaries completely disconnected?
Automation and technology.

[Anonymous No.14710597]

>>14710501
That's simply an example I chose, there are many people that come under that category, how many corrupt billionaores Or maybe trillionaires do you know? There are multi billion $ of illegal activity that goes on around the world, none of that comes up on that list, Have you heard of panama papers?

[Anonymous No.14710631]

>>14710587
>Yes. Like most people in my country.
How much of your rent goes to pay your landlord's mortgage?

[Anonymous No.14710665]

>>14710597
Its impossible for the law firms and swiss banks that create these millions of fake companies to not be the target of every single intelligence network. Its impossible for MI6 to just not know who owns some house in Britain

[Anonymous No.14710670]

>>14710597
>That's simply an example I chose, there are many people that come under that category
No, I have a coworker who I suspect as a /pol/tard and he always tells us about the Rothschilds. I'm from the same city as that family (their name literally means the family from the house with the red shield) and he kept asking me weird questions until I told him that the entire quarter burned down in WW2, so even if it still existed back then, it is gone now. I said it in a way that emphasized that the Nazis started a war and then lost, thus ruining Germany and destroying a lot of German heritage (including the Jewish heritage). After that he never bugged me again. Maybe he lurks here, in that case hi.
>>14710631
Zero, since my landlords have owned and lived in that house for over 50 years, I think. But I do pay about 20% in rent.