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Why is there so much science denial on this board? I doubt they're paid, but how does someone end up a climate change denier or antivaxxer?

>> No.14672528

science = pr agency for democrats = trannys niggers latinos = jews
people are angry

>> No.14672536

>>14672528
And dumb.

>> No.14672550

>>14672441
>how does someone end up a climate change denier
liberty_island.jpg
>or antivaxxer
"covid" is merely the flu, therefore the vaccine is either useless (best case scenario) or actively harmful (worst case scenario)

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>>14672550
>"covid" is merely the flu

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>>14672441
How's the weather in Tel Aviv? Soientists are professional liars and whores, who sell themselves to the highest bidders.

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>>14672441
Because to "trust the science" is un-scientific.

Also, I think what the sceptic movement is missing is that the "science" also have to align with your observations of the world. Sure these observations are subject to bias, but they are still a valuable datapoint that they compleatly disregard in order to push their world view.

https://youtu.be/Nuh8Lp7F-Bg

>> No.14672574

>>14672564
>racism
cringe

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>>14672536
There is nothing stupider than a scientist.

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>>14672574
Oy vey

>> No.14672579

>>14672576
Yes there is. Every single person on /pol/

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>>14672579
False.

>> No.14672582

>>14672578
Racism is against the board-wide rules.

>> No.14672583

>>14672581
You skipped most of FLICC and jumped right into conspiracy theories.

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>>14672582
The truth burns, eh, shabbos goyim?

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>>14672583

>> No.14672590

>>14672585
Arutz Sheva
>is an Israeli media network identifying with religious Zionism.
Why, I too, prefer to get the latest updates on medical research for a religious Zionist newspaper.

>> No.14672595

>>14672590
racist

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>>14672595

>> No.14672648

>>14672641
meant for >>14672590

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>>14672585
>>14672648

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>>14672649

>> No.14672655

>>14672653
>makes fun of "trust the experts"
>Posts articles by right-nationalist Israeli newspaper
The claim from the headline isn't even in the article.

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>>14672656
>5G

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>> No.14672726

>FLICC
can we talk about how americucks need to shoehorn everything into backronyms?

>> No.14672729

>>14672441
What's a 'blowfish'?

>> No.14672737

>>14672550
https://www.sealevels.org
Click and drag in the plot area to zoom in

>> No.14672739

these are all the same techniques people use in support of scientism though

>> No.14672741

>>14672737
>Must be coincidence
t. deniers

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>>14672739
No it's not.

>> No.14672748

>>14672741
>tides & photoshop
lol

>> No.14672751

>>14672747
>fake debate
scientists do that all the time lol

>> No.14672769

>>14672441
>how does someone end up a climate change denier or antivaxxer?
By understanding that science and politics are inseparable. I understand the science behind vaccination and climate change, hell my focus in undergrad was on atmospheric physics. I simply refuse to participate in the absurd political charade that goes alongside both. I live to spite retards who live and die by the words of authority.

>> No.14672770

>>14672441
> but how does someone end up a climate change denier or antivaxxer?
For a while I thought it was literal schizos, conspiracytards or religious nuts just being retarded.
But now I'm more and more convinced that, for a big part, it's a deliberate attack on science for political reasons disguised as retardedness.

>> No.14672777

>>14672441
Because science is now pretty much a religion. I can't believe they actually argue FOR pseudoscience in your pic.

>> No.14672782

>>14672770
I always found it somewhat plausible but I couldn't imagine that the three-letter agencies monitor the entire internet. Like, it would suit them but that's not possible, is it?
Similarly I find it entirely on-flavour for Exxon and friends to manufacture doubt with online trolls. They do sponsor think tanks that always come to conclusions that benefit them. But online trolls? Like, are there really people who get literal money for shitposting? I find it hard to believe, but in the end it's probably true. Or spam filtering on 4chan is really bad and it's all automated posts from some computing centres around the world. To be honest, AI responses aren't any less organic than plenty of comments on /pol/

>> No.14672783

>>14672777
>science is now pretty much a religion
Care to elaborate? Also your perspective is interesting. Are you a disenchanted scientist yourself or did you never have anything to do with science?

>> No.14672791

Ultimately it's the fault of politicians. The fact they can lie and get away with it and in most cases not even have to apologize for it, has emboldened other experts to spin the truth however they want. This leads to people assuming everything people in authority say is a lie and to form complex conspiracy theories based on whatever is left that they trust. The only solution to rebuild trust in these institutions is to lynch anyone who tries to lie to the public and get away with it.

>> No.14672797

>>14672441
Everybody hates you and your NPC world order. This is the science-themed NPC hate board. Hope that clears things up. You're not welcome here.

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>>14672441
>pic straight out of a government soience PR campaign
Are you trolling or are you genuinely this stupid?

>> No.14672852

>>14672806
>government soience PR campaign
Prove it.

>> No.14672854

>>14672441
People always find authority, it was science so it got turn into religion, simple as that.

>> No.14672858

>>14672852
Are you in possession of eyes? Are you able to look at what you posted?

>> No.14672872

>>14672858
Don't prove the "posting" part, but the "government PR", silly.

>> No.14672884

>>14672872
Once again I don't know if you're trolling or retarded. What could your pic possibly be except for government PR?

>> No.14672886

>>14672441
I looked at the evidence because I got curious, I discovered that a number of vaccines are associated with increased rates of inflammatory disorders, that the entire basis of vaccine theory is basically shooting yourself with smaller bullets to make yourself immune to real bullets. The extensive list of side effects from the covid 19 vaccines and the orchestrated coverup.
However I'm still at the scepticism stage I'm not well enough informed to say they don't work. But the topic certainly has my attention.

>> No.14672890

Science is a method not a belief system.

>> No.14672892

>>14672884
I didn't get it from any government, so you tell me why you think that. It's your hypothesis, so you have to prove it.

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>>14672892
>I didn't get it from any government
Did I say you got it from some government? I really, really hope you're trolling and not actually this stupid...

>> No.14672896

>>14672886
>that the entire basis of vaccine theory is basically shooting yourself with smaller bullets to make yourself immune to real bullets.
Unlike with bullets it works though. The bullets picture is an oversimplification.
>The extensive list of side effects from the covid 19 vaccines and the orchestrated coverup.
Care to elaborate? Did the governments of 180 countries in the world participate in it? Doctors around the globe?

>>14672894
Then what did you want to say and where is the proof for it?

>> No.14672898

>>14672890
>Science is a method not a belief system.
So we don't have to trust the """experts""" or give a shit about the """scientific consensus""" anymore? Good.

>> No.14672900

>>14672896
>Then what did you want to say
I wanted to say that you're extremely gullible and lacking in intellect, and it immediately shows in your choice of pic to start the thread. gb2normienet

>> No.14672903

>>14672900
In that case, it was a really poor choice of words. Also, personal attacks have no place in a discussion about science.

>> No.14672906

>>14672903
What discussion about science? You're just mindlessly spamming government PR and recycled 2000s pseudo-skeptoid talking points. Begone.

>> No.14672911

Because most people on this site are complete retards. It's (barely) bearable when you want shitpost, coom, talk about comics/cooking/etc. but wanting to talk about serious subjects on 4chan is bound to fail

>> No.14672913

>>14672896
>Care to elaborate? Did the governments of 180 countries in the world participate in it? Doctors around the globe?
yes, did you really not notice?

>> No.14672916

>>14672783
OK, let's compare them:
Religion:
Usually contains a set of scriptures, which are inviolable and typically highly illegal to modify, and and the truth is deduced from studying and interpreting these scriptures. A set of dogmas that must be followed and not disputed is often present.
The teaching is expected to be accepted and followed as taught, personal experience and reason need to be ignored.

Science:
The truth is discovered through repeated empirical testing and observation, which are further refined as the amount of information increases. Facts and theories that are contradicted are discarded and replaced with more accurate ones, and no knowledge is sacred. Authority and who says what is irrelevant, the only thing that matters is which opinion is found to be closer to the truth.

>> No.14672918

>>14672906
It was about science and science denialism until you started crying about the alleged source of the image.
>>14672913
Not really, no. I'm in a European country that often clashes with the EU (not a member state). I find it hard to believe that all 180 governments and millions of doctors around the globe chime in unisono over night.

>> No.14672923

>>14672918
>It was about science
Nothing in this thread is science-related.

>science denialism
Political propaganda buzzword. Take it to >>>/pol/

>> No.14672925

>>14672916
Low IQ post.

>> No.14672927

>>14672923
Science denialism, rejecting the scientific method and pushing your own beliefs is pretty much what you're doing. So why don't you bugger off to /pol/?

>> No.14672930
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OOOOAAHHHHA IM TROOOOSTING THE SOOOOIENCE

>> No.14672933

>>14672927
>Science denialism
Political propaganda buzzword. Even if you don't see it for what it is, even a moron like you should at least be able to see that this is squarely politics and not science.

>> No.14672935

>>14672930
What do you do for a living?

>> No.14672936

>>14672935
Troost the experts.

>> No.14672937

>>14672936
So I suppose you're not an expert in any field. I get that it feels bad if no one trusts you.

>> No.14672939

>>14672441
There is a difference between Science and The Science™ which is bought and paid for and in some areas, captured.

Why Most Published Research Findings Are False
>https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124

Massive covidization of research citations and the citation elite
>https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2204074119

Reminder that Dr. Ioannidis specializes in researching research. He is one of the most cited scientists in the world.

>https://profiles.stanford.edu/john-ioannidis

>https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=JiiMY_wAAAAJ&hl=en

He has an H-index of 231, highest than the world's foremost computer scientists.
(for those that don't know: "The h index is a metric for evaluating the cumulative impact of an author's scholarly output and performance; measures quantity with quality by comparing publications to citations.")

>https://research.com/scientists-rankings/computer-science

>> No.14672940

>>14672937
I'm an expert in scientific consensus. I troost only the highest-quality, government-approved science.

>> No.14672942

>>14672939
>directly engaging with the retard instead of stifling his attempts and frustrating him
You midwit pseuds just never learn. You only know how to lose.

>> No.14672946

>>14672884
It was made by some blogger

>> No.14672947

>>14672925
Are you insane?

>> No.14672948

>>14672911
>talk about comics
Talking about comics on 4chan is completely unbearable

>> No.14672949

>>14672942
I just like sharing info that others can check. Too often people post, whether shitpost or not, and its fun to pepper food information for all to see on the thread.

>> No.14672950

>>14672942
>>directly engaging with the retard instead of stifling his attempts and frustrating him
umm you just did a heckin bad faith which makes you a liar and a bigot even though I'm arguing in worse faith than you

>> No.14672953

>>14672441
>Why is there so much science denial on this board?
there isnt.
>I doubt they're paid, but how does someone end up a climate change denier or antivaxxer?
by taking the scientific method seriously, or gobbling up pre-chewed shit from some obscure source

>> No.14672954

>>14672441
>Fake experts
What is a real expert? One that supports your claim instead of criticising it?
>Reinterpreting randomness
The universe is stochastic, physicists have been reinterpreting randomness for millennia, which is why we have so many conflicting theories and models
>Ambiguity
Most retarded objection of them all. If it is ambiguous, then by definition it isn't "settled"
>Red herring
Hence the objection
>Slippery slope fallacy
Not a fallacy at all, has been proven to death. Welcome to the avalanche.

This has to be a joke. How could someone possibly come up with such an extraordinarily unscientific approach to the reduction of scientific reasoning?

>> No.14672956

>>14672946
FLICC is government propaganda. It doesn't matter who made this pic, and I highly doubt you can trace it back to anyone specific.

>> No.14672958

>>14672441
Ikr, the amount of pseudoscientific transphobia on this board is appalling

>> No.14672959

>>14672939
>Reminder that Dr. Ioannidis specializes in researching research. He is one of the most cited scientists in the world.
Ioannidis is literally on the payroll of JetBlue. No wonder he objected lockdowns and travel bans. He's a fraud. He is literally what global heating deniers accuse climate researchers of.

>> No.14672960

>>14672949
pepper good* information for all to see on thread.

im hungry lol.

>> No.14672961

>>14672737
>don't believe your eyes goyim believe my cool looking websiterino!

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>>14672935
I'm a prooofessional trooster of the soience. With my deboonker 3000, I know more science than you, chud. I troost all the science

>> No.14672967

>>14672949
>I just like sharing info that others can check
Well, you have every other thread on this board to do that, but you just want to argue with the dumb shill, which only ends up serving his purpose.

>> No.14672968

>>14672954
>What is a real expert? One that supports your claim instead of criticising it?
One that spent a significant part of his career on a topic and is well-regarded in his field.
>The universe is stochastic, physicists have been reinterpreting randomness for millennia, which is why we have so many conflicting theories and models
Statistics is a well-described field that allows for proper estimation of uncertainties.
>>14672956
Prove it.

>> No.14672969

>>14672968
>Prove it.
I don't need to prove anything. All I need to do is to shit on you and let you know your crude propaganda antics make no impression.

>> No.14672970

>>14672963
>that comic
Do you really think this is a gotcha or something? State-funded research has been telling governments that they are fucking up a billion times.

>> No.14672972

>>14672970
>The only research is state-funded
Kys.

>> No.14672973

>>14672969
>I don't need to prove anything.
Then I don't need to read anything you're writing.

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>State-funded research has been telling governments that they are fucking up a billion times.
Imagine being so stupid you literally admit that state-funded """research""" is just a means to drive policy changes and still clain it's about le heckin soience.

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>>14672571
>also have to align with your observations of the world. Sure these observations are subject to bias
oh, top experts need to cater to uneducated redneck randoms?
tell me more smoothbrain
>but muh subjective observations and worthless opiniorinos are super relevant
they are piss, you are coping to not have to face the irrelevance and insignificance of your pathetic existence, and the meaninglessness of what you consider to be your knowledge
>they are still a valuable datapoint
irrelevant datapoint that hold little to no valuable information
>they compleatly disregard in order to push their world view.
no one is obliged to listen to the dumbest idiot or care about the fee fees of some barely sentient creature

get a clue
and stop shilling your videos, doublenagger

>> No.14672977

>>14672973
>Then I don't need to read anything you're writing.
But you do and you will, dumb shill. You are programmed that way. You're the one out here to "prove" that the propaganda you gobble up straight from your master's filthy asshole is "science" that evetryone should take seriously.

>> No.14672978

>>14672972
>Privately funded research is less biased

>> No.14672980

>>14672956
>I highly doubt you can trace it back to anyone specific.
What a strange thing to be confident about without checking. His name is John Cook, and he works as a research assistant at George Mason University in Virginia.

>> No.14672981

>>14672959
But lockdowns and travel bans were unscientific to begin with. He was right in that regard and he was talking about it in mid 2020.

>https://youtu.be/QUvWaxuurzQ

>https://youtu.be/cwPqmLoZA4s

>https://youtu.be/T-saAuXaPok

"Lockdowns are defined as the imposition of at least one compulsory, non-pharmaceutical intervention (NPI). NPIs are any government mandate that directly restrict peoples’ possibilities, such as policies that
limit internal movement, close schools and businesses, and ban international travel. This study employed a systematic search and screening procedure in which 18,590 studies are identified that could potentially address the belief posed. After three levels of screening, 34 studies ultimately qualified. Of those 34 eligible studies, 24 qualified for inclusion in the meta-analysis.
They were separated into three groups: lockdown stringency index studies, shelter-in-placeorder (SIPO) studies, and specific NPI studies. An analysis of each of these three groups support the conclusion that lockdowns have had little to no effect on COVID-19 mortality. More specifically, stringency index studies find that lockdowns in Europe and the United States only reduced COVID-19 mortality by 0.2% on average. SIPOs were also ineffective, only reducing COVID-19 mortality by 2.9% on average. Specific NPI studies also find no broad-based evidence of noticeable effects on COVID-19 mortality.

***While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic and social costs where they have been adopted. In consequence, lockdown policies are ill-founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument."***

>https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf

>> No.14672982

>>14672968
>Statistics is a well-described field that allows for proper estimation of uncertainties.
There you are. You answered your own silliness. QED, and I'm off to breakfast.

>> No.14672984

>>14672974
>literally admit that state-funded """research""" is just a means to drive policy changes and still clain it's about le heckin soience.
>literally admitting you can't read

>> No.14672985

>>14672976
>oh, top experts need to cater to uneducated redneck randoms?
They don't, but guess what? Uneducated rednecks don't needs to give a fuck about your corporate-funded """experts""", either. Keep pushing your soience policies and we'll see how long before your """scientists""" find themselves hanging from lamp posts. :^)

>> No.14672986

>>14672980
>he works as a research assistant at George Mason University in Virginia.
So it's government PR, like I said. Okay. Nice self-own.

>> No.14672988

>>14672985
>Uneducated rednecks don't needs to give a fuck about your corporate-funded """experts""", either.
Being proud of living in a society on the level of Mali

>> No.14672990

>>14672984
I accept your full, open and literal concession. State-funded """research""" is just a means to drive policy changes and still clain it's about le heckin soience.

>> No.14672991

>>14672986
>everything I don't like is government
>everything I don't like is PR

>> No.14672992

>>14672988
bit racist

>> No.14672993

>>14672990
>State-funded """research""" is just a means to drive policy changes and still clain it's about le heckin soience.
There is no way you can be literate and at the same time to be retarded enough to get this from my comment. You done fucked up, idiot. Pick an IQ and troll accordingly instead of overdoing it.

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>>14672970
Oi you got a source for that? RAAWEEERR IM DEBOONKING

>> No.14672995

>>14672988
You're "experts" are the ones turning once great Western societies into third-world-tier shitholes according to every objective metric. You are truly mentally ill to think society needs your corporate-funded puppet """scientists""" to function, but that's to be expected from the heavily brainwashed and poorly educated.

>> No.14672996

>>14672994
>has never read a paper in his life and never will

>> No.14672998

>>14672995
>You're
yeah... sorry, I don't speak IQ 60

>> No.14672999

>>14672991
You literally just told me that this pic was made by some retarded deboonker on the government payroll, for his retarded trust-the-experts blog, in an effort to spread FLICC propaganda. Imagine self-owning so hard and pretending you're winning.

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>>14672996
Ah hominem. See OP. Stop science denying. Meanwhile I'm over here troooosting and deboonking. Get on my level.

>> No.14673001

>>14672999
I most certainly did not, moron. I don't know if you are aware, but "Anonymous" is not just one person you are talking to.

>> No.14673002

>>14672998
You will never be intelligent. You will never have a real education. You wil never be human. You will always be a universally hated virgin. :^)

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>>14673000

>> No.14673004

>>14673001
>I most certainly did not,
You did. It's on the record for all to see. You lost and you've basically admitted to it, too. Take your meds because you're seriously losing it. :^)

>> No.14673006

>>14673002
Fuck off retard.
>>14673004
Where? Link the comment, retard.

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>>14672985
>Uneducated rednecks don't needs to give a fuck about your corporate-funded """experts""", either
they dont, thats why they are uneducated rednecks
almost a tautology
>Keep pushing your soience policies and we'll see how long before your """scientists""" find themselves hanging from lamp posts
hmm?
not pushing shit
but good luck running against the status quo, kiddo

you didnt get microchipped? no more shopping for you, no bank account and no public transport :')
didnt get the fauci ouchie? lol enjoy that freedom of choice buddy, when police catch you you will be sodomized by batons
hope you are into that :^)

dont cry too hard, if you upset the minorities with your inconsiderate muttering you will have to go to prison for a hate crime
jamal and tyrone are already waiting for your tender buttcheeks
maybe they will use your tears as lube if you are lucky ;)

feels good to live in a free and loving country, feels good to be part of the relevant class, rather than some filthy peasant that will be made to disappear the moment he opens its cockhole a bit too much
better get used to the taste of big biz and big gov semen in your mouth, there will be a lot more in the future :")

>> No.14673008
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14673008

>troost the heckin' experts
Even when the experts are telling me that soience(tm) is a fraud?

>> No.14673010
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>>14673007
Didn't read. Call me back when you have a scientific education. Sharting out kindergarten propaganda doesn't make you scientific.

>> No.14673012
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14673012

Hmmmm...

>> No.14673013

>>14673008
Nice image. Its a good one. Here's all the sources for it for the source bois.

Skeptical of medical science reports?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4572812/
(source for first two quotes)

Who pays for the pizza? Redefining the relationships between doctors and drug companies. 1: Entanglement
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1126053/
(a source for the third quote)

Clarifying Three Widespread Quotes
https://paulingblog.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/clarifying-three-widespread-quotes/
(source for the last quote)

>> No.14673015

BlackRock, Inc. is an American multinational investment management corporation based in New York City. Founded in 1988, initially as a risk management and fixed income institutional asset manager, BlackRock is the world's largest asset manager, with US$10 trillion in assets under management as of January 2022.[3] BlackRock operates globally with 70 offices in 30 countries and clients in 100 countries.[4]

BlackRock has sought to position itself as an industry leader in environmental, social and corporate governance (ESG).[5] The company has faced criticism for worsening climate change, its close ties with the Federal Reserve System during the COVID-19 pandemic, anticompetitive behavior, and its unprecedented investments in China.[6][7]

In 2017, BlackRock expanded its presence in sustainable investing and environmental, social and corporate governance (ESG) with new staff[86] and products both in the USA[87] and Europe[88][89] with the aim to lead the evolution of the financial sector in this regard.[90]

BlackRock started using its weight to draw attention to environmental and diversity issues by means of official letters to CEOs and shareholder votes together with activist investors or investor networks[91] like the Carbon Disclosure Project, which in 2017 backed a successful shareholder resolution for ExxonMobil to act on climate change.[92][93] In 2018, it asked Russell 1000 companies to improve gender diversity on their board of directors if they had less than two women on them.[94]

>> No.14673016

>>14673004
>You did.
No, that was me. I'm a different anon.

>> No.14673017
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14673017

>>14672441
Boy, I sure wonder why no one trusts your cult leaders anymore.

>> No.14673019
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14673019

>>14673010
>WWAHHHHHH PWOPAGANDAAAAAAA
oh nooo! are you going to cry, little baby?
put that pacifier in your mouth, irrelevant shitstain.
>Call me back when you have a scientific education
i have, do you?
post your diploma certificate

you being a little retard doesnt require scientific education to see

... and just like that you are exposed for being a brainlet

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14673021

>>14673019
Sorry, I just didn't read.

>> No.14673022

>>14673021
cry harded mutt

>> No.14673025

>>14673007
>>14673010
fucking kek. hope that poor bastard at least had some fun churning out those paragraphs

>> No.14673027

>>14673019
>i have, do you?
>post your diploma certificate
You first.

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14673030

>>14673027
>>14673025
triggered much?

>> No.14673031

>>14673021
>being proud of being dumb and ignorant

>> No.14673037

>>14673021
nice cope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8MZBUoQt68

>> No.14673040

>>14672571
Are you suggesting that we should replicate every single study before taking it as truth

>> No.14673044
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14673044

>>14673017
>a sign written by some local tourist office is literally the same as the entirety of science
Meanwhile glaciers do actually vanish

>> No.14673045

>>14673027
you made the claim, give the evidence
prove your education
you wont, because there is none, as you are an uneducated retard, as evidenced by your posts

you type like a fag and your shits all retarded kek

>> No.14673046

>>14673045
>you made the claim, give the evidence
NTA, but they made the claim that you don't have education. This cannot fully be proven, but your comments are a strong indicator.

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14673047

>>14673031
>>14673037
>t. science trooster

>> No.14673049

>>14673044
Nice graph, I will eat the bugs and live in the pod now.

>> No.14673050

>>14673046
>muh worthless opinions
post your diploma or fuck off

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14673051

>>14673044
So they're """experts""" when it suits you but "local tourist office workers" when it doesn't. Whatever. People see right through you. :^)

>> No.14673054

>>14673013
>Articles
>Blog post
I read them all, they read like massive cope and nothing to disprove what any of them said, and occasionally begrudgingly concurring with their assessment of modern medicine.

TL;DR for anyone: masked ad hominem, suggesting Linus Pauling was in a fit of rage when he contextualised what he did and in his accusations untoward Mayo clinic. It's interesting that the tactics of you shills never change. Angry incel now, angry old white man then. Same shit.

>> No.14673056

>>14673051
>People see right through you
nice group based shaming, "everyone thinks your a creep" "they think you are X"
so passive agressive

do you have a vagina? you talk like a hole
maybe its just you sucking so much cock that has rewired your brain

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14673057

>>14673054
>I read them all

Read them again:

Skeptical of medical science reports?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4572812/
(source for first two quotes)

Who pays for the pizza? Redefining the relationships between doctors and drug companies. 1: Entanglement
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1126053/
(a source for the third quote)

Clarifying Three Widespread Quotes
https://paulingblog.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/clarifying-three-widespread-quotes/
(source for the last quote)

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14673059

>>14673056
People see right through you. You are hated. Your agenda is hated. Keep it up and you will face violence eventually, because everyone is just about fed up with you and your corporate owners.

>> No.14673060

>>14673051
>>14673050
>>14673049
>>14673045
>>14673030
>>14673021
>>14673017
>>14673008
>>14673000
>>14672995
>>14672994
>>14672990
>>14672986
>>14672985
I love how many butthurt deniers this post attracted.

Honest question: why? 90% of these comments are dumber than any living human could possibly be, so you must be trolling. But really, why? You can't get paid for it, can you? Do you get personal pleasure from saying that the sky is green and stones are soft? The dumber people think you are, the better you feel because you deceived them into thinking you're retarded? Successfully even? You're such a mastermind if you manage that people think you're retarded, is that it?

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>>14673059
People see right through you. You are hated. Your agenda is hated. Keep it up and you will face violence eventually, because everyone is just about fed up with you and your uneducated retarded ass midwit opinions.

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14673064

>>14673060
Didn't read.

>> No.14673065

>>14673051
Do you think, scientific publications are posted signs in national parks? Do you unironically think that's how we publish our findings?

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14673067

>>14673063
You will never be considered human. :^)

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14673068

>>14673064
>source: twitter

>> No.14673069
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14673069

>sources checked.
>science settled
>denialism debunked
Damn it feels good to be a trooster

>> No.14673070

>>14673067
you are subhuman and low iq :^)

>> No.14673071

>>14673065
Oops. Looks like your little propaganda campaign backfires far too often. :^)

>> No.14673074

>>14673064
>...it didn't...why?
Because these numbers are made up and not from any Pfizer study

>> No.14673076

>>14673071
In what national park do I post my sign on LHC data analysis?

>> No.14673077
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14673077

>>14673074
They are and anyone can see it for themselves. Better yet, no one even cares to check. They know it's right and they know you're lying right away. Seethe.

>> No.14673078

>>14673067
This literally describes global heating deniers. Oh the irony.

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14673079

>>14673076
Better hope this week's experts don't turn into tourism office workers next week. :^)

>> No.14673080

>>14673078
I know who paid for your preprogrammed rhetoric:

BlackRock, Inc. is an American multinational investment management corporation based in New York City. Founded in 1988, initially as a risk management and fixed income institutional asset manager, BlackRock is the world's largest asset manager, with US$10 trillion in assets under management as of January 2022.[3] BlackRock operates globally with 70 offices in 30 countries and clients in 100 countries.[4]

BlackRock has sought to position itself as an industry leader in environmental, social and corporate governance (ESG).[5] The company has faced criticism for worsening climate change, its close ties with the Federal Reserve System during the COVID-19 pandemic, anticompetitive behavior, and its unprecedented investments in China.[6][7]

In 2017, BlackRock expanded its presence in sustainable investing and environmental, social and corporate governance (ESG) with new staff[86] and products both in the USA[87] and Europe[88][89] with the aim to lead the evolution of the financial sector in this regard.[90]

BlackRock started using its weight to draw attention to environmental and diversity issues by means of official letters to CEOs and shareholder votes together with activist investors or investor networks[91] like the Carbon Disclosure Project, which in 2017 backed a successful shareholder resolution for ExxonMobil to act on climate change.[92][93] In 2018, it asked Russell 1000 companies to improve gender diversity on their board of directors if they had less than two women on them.[94]

Ooops. Exposed. :^(

>> No.14673081

>>14673077
>They are and anyone can see it for themselves
No. Link them or kys.
It's neither here:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577
nor here:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110345

The number is made up.

>> No.14673083

>>14673080
I wish, but feel free to try to prove it.

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14673084

>>14673081
They are and anyone can see it for themselves. Better yet, no one even cares to check. They know it's right and they know you're lying right away. Seethe.

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14673087

>>14673083
I just did.

>> No.14673089

>>14673084
>no proofs
into the trash

>> No.14673094

>>14673089
>t. science denier

>> No.14673096

>>14673094
citations? evidence?

>> No.14673098

>>14673096
I gave dozens of peer-reveiwed citations ITT but you're a science denier so I think I can leave it at that. Everyone can see you lost the debate. :^)

>> No.14673104

>>14673098
>I gave dozens of peer-reveiwed citations ITT
you didnt give shit, retard
go back to making your shitty ass videos

you realize how much of a dumbass you look like?

>> No.14673105

>>14672441
Climate change is fake and the virus was the flu. Scientists enabled governments to overreact and destroy the global economy. Scientists have been crying wolf about climate change for half a century. Nobody trust scientists.

>> No.14673109

>>14673105
viruses dont exist

>> No.14673111

>>14672441
Who paid for this shit. See, this is the "science" they steal your money for.

>> No.14673115

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXxHfb66ZgM
https://realclimatescience.com/the-history-of-the-modern-climate-change-scam/

>> No.14673116

>>14673084
>no link, not worth paying any attention to

>> No.14673119

>>14673104
>you didnt
LOL. I hope you realize it deosn't look good for your side when you lie so blatantly.

>> No.14673124

>>14673119
you are making the anti science community look bad with your low iq takes :')

>> No.14673131
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14673131

>ITT: soience NPCs getting absolutely ravaged
Delicious. Keep up the good work.

>> No.14673132

>>14673119
>>14673124
everyone knows climate change is fake now shut the fuck up

>> No.14673133

>>14673132
prove it

>> No.14673139

>>14673133
It's been proven that correlation is not causation.

>> No.14673146

>>14673139
Show the proof

>> No.14673152

>>14673146
A "scientist" has spoken. It's you who need a proof for positive claim.

>> No.14673154

>>14673146
See here for proof
>>14669335
>>14670392

>> No.14673168

>>14673154
Nice, but even "debunkers" don't know what they're talking about. You need need a closed space for the "greenhouse effect", like, duh, a greenhouse or a car _with a freaking metal roof_. But there is no roof in the atmosphere, so any babbling about "greenhouse" is pure bullshit.

>> No.14673171

>>14673154
>4chan is an academic source
Oi quit it with that science denialism chud

>> No.14673200
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14673200

>>14672769
>By understanding that science and politics are inseparable.

>> No.14673289

>>14672918
>chime in unisono over night.
you didn't hear the arguments of the actual dissenters, those governments that go against the NWO were silenced

>> No.14673308

>>14672918
RAWWAARRR I agree, the science is democratic and has been voted on as SETTLED.

>> No.14673316

>>14673154
Neither of these posts contains proof.

>> No.14673322

>>14673308
ARROOOOAAA IM TROOOOOSTING the 180 gubment
>Verification not required

>> No.14673325

>>14673316
That's wrong.

>> No.14673328

>>14673325
There's not a single piece of information where correlation exists without causation.

>> No.14673337

He's right you know. Correlation ≠ causation. Deal with it, trooster.

>> No.14673338

>>14673328
That's untrue. Correlation is distinct from causation.

>> No.14673339

>>14673337
Still no proof

>> No.14673365
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14673365

>>14673338
They are literally synonyms, retard.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/correlation

>> No.14673366

I consider it alarming that posters are denying the fundamental basics of scientific theory. If you reject the difference between causation and correlation, could you also reject the natural cycles associated with climate change?

>> No.14673371

>>14673366
They. Are. Synonyms. Learn English, idiot.

>> No.14673373

>>14673365
That is a fake screenshot. You faked that. That is disingenuous and in bad faith. I urge other users of this sub to analyze this for future reference. Climate alarmists cannot be trusted, even on this hallowed page.

>> No.14673377

>>14673373
>hurrdurr fake fake fake
Everything you don't like is fake. Just kys and accept the truth.

>> No.14673390

>>14672916
If you'd been paying attention we don't have science, we have sciencism, your scientists are priests.

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14673402

>>14672976
it's ironic because people who understand science better than the masses use the SCIENCE of secrecy and mental manipulation to so subtle bamboozle you by mixing 90% truth with 10% lies causing you to believe in "infallible" truths like anti vaxxers are wrong which ironically insanely unscientific and illogical

>> No.14673404

>>14672441
It’s literally just people feeling lied too by the supposed authorities of science.

>> No.14673407

>>14672441
I find it even more surprising that there's so much climate change alarmism and vaccine evangelism on this board. If one feels the need to loudly chant the tenets of a status quo, wouldn't it make more sense to do it on a larger and non-anonymous platform where more people can see how good and faithful you are and where the social fulfillment you get from declaring your faith and goodness can apply directly to your public persona and/ or social credit score? Why does anyone come here simply to proclaim and parrot whatever catechism the establishment cathedral wants people to be proclaiming and parroting? I don't get what the point or benefit of that should be.

>> No.14673419

>>14673407
Gpt-3 & 4 are everywhere. They specifically target small parts of the internet that their models show feed into the consensus of larger internet communities.

>> No.14673422

>>14673373
Thanks for pointing this out. I looked at the link, and verified this guy doctored the screen shot. Why would a climate alarmist do that, just lie about something as fundamental as statistics?

>> No.14673443

>>14673422
It is because they are paid to lie to us. I have heard they are paid by big green tech industry, but in truth I am not sure of this. All I know is that we cannot trust scientists anymore.

>> No.14673451

>>14673365
Are you actually retarded?

>> No.14673454

>>14673419
Are they more or less coherent than our usual posters?

>> No.14673457

>>14673454
I don't know. If you assume the tech lag between state funded military stuff and the private sector is like a decade, and that cutting edge astroturfing private enterprises would find a way to get access to that same stuff maybe a few years later, and then you look at how good gpt-3 is already. I think we are fucked.

>> No.14673472

>>14673457
I think at some point it will just be bots arguing with bots. It likely already is in a few threads.

>> No.14673502

>>14673040
Science doesn't prove anything true. Science shows "after n trials, this still hasn't been proved false." If n = 1 then that really isn't saying all that much.

>> No.14673542

>>14673502
>Muh popperian falsification
OK wise guy, so what's a correlative study

>> No.14673558

>>14673542
Applied mathematics

>> No.14673606

>>14673502
>Science shows "after n trials, this still hasn't been proved false."
Actual brainlet take

>> No.14673649

>>14673057
I'm wondering if this is a bot post, posting the the same links won't change what I read. I'm not required to concur with your assessment, despite your best attempts at subversion, I'm won't come to the same conclusion. Everything in all those pages is just conjecture, sometimes posthumous. It's absurd, reductionist and malicious.

>> No.14673897

>>14673390
Yes, that's what I said here: >>14672777

>> No.14674000

GANGSTALKING IS REAL AND THEY GET THEIR TI's FROM 4CHAN.

>> No.14674019

>>14674000
Yes, but what do they target you for? And how do they find you?

>> No.14674075

>>14674019
how secure is cloudflare?
how secure is discord?
how can you co opt the cookies that are on this site?
any anon that doesnt into cybsec.
any anon that pisses another anon off.
especially if that anon belongs to a discord hive of villany.
how vetted are jannies and mods and admins?
what is 4chans relation to OSINT ?
4chan is ground zero for social engineering and manipulation.
a training ground for tavistock and institutional PR wannabes and dickass kids that are too smart for their own good.

im sure forgein intelligence and marketing conpanies build profiles for every american flag on /pol/ especially the ones that are antisemitic.

>> No.14674139

>>14673067
Vatnik verbal diarrhea is not science tardo

>> No.14675219
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14675219

>>14672441
>conspiracy theory

>> No.14675254

http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html
There Paul graham explains pr work just replace pr=science and thats all

>> No.14675368

>>14672441
Questioning the current untested injection was a good health decision, obviously. Global warming evidence has been falsified all the way back to the 'Hockey puck' scandal and no one in their right mind would accept what they say about the climate anymore. It is a clear scam and only shills and midwits continue with it, and the odd intelligent person who is trapped or has lost their way. Womp, womp.
As for more consequential issues like cosmology, the fact is that the religious fundamentalists who believe that the Earth isn't moving are right, as are the Relativists who say that time and space can bend. Both are wrong for telling that the other is wrong, so both - in effect - are science deniers of one kind or another. Oh well... there's one thing that does not change and that is OP is a fag.

>> No.14675428

>>14672571
>the sceptic movement
...is more correctly known as "denialism".

>> No.14675434

IT’S A CONSPIRATYYYYYYYY

>> No.14675436

>>14672751
>I know what scientists do
No, you do not.

>> No.14675584
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14675584

Complete Demoralization of the populace perpetrated by the populace.

>> No.14675639

>>14672441
How would we determine how much of global warming is caused by humans and much would occur without us? I’m not a climate change denier, I’m just genuinely curious.