Heat Death

[Anonymous No.14662916]

At what point is intelligent life supposed to become impossible to sustain? How much time do we really have left?

[Anonymous No.14662933]

>>14662916
you have about 70 years left, focus on that.

[Anonymous No.14662944]

>>14662916
intelligent life has always been impossible

[Anonymous No.14662979]

>>14662944
That's a philosophical statement, and why do you think that? I guess the definition of intelligent life is a bit ambiguous. Plenty of other animals are intelligent, but they haven't been able to invent advanced tools like humans have, and probably because they don't have hands and arms like humans that can easily and precisely manipulate objects.

[Anonymous No.14663014]

Intelligent civilizations can harvest energy from black holes, after stars die out.
Assuming we settle around a supermassive black hole, we only have about a googol years left before no energy can be harvested.
Or,
> 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
years.

[Anonymous No.14663034]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMJNta-okRw

[Anonymous No.14663038]

>>14663014
Thanks, anon. That's kind of what I was thinking after reading this Wikipedia page, but I wasn't sure. Wouldn't that amount of energy be very small, anyway?

[Anonymous No.14663056]

>>14663038

Yes. The only for of intelligent intelligence capable of harvesting hawking radiation will have to be efficient enough to survive with less energy than the necessary to light up a lightbulb. So all civilizations that last that long will be hyper efficient digital ones that don't mind to run things slowly because they have an eternity to think things through.

While some may call them "late civilization", given how long they last, it will be more accurate to call ours as an "early civilization" and their the normal ones.

[Anonymous No.14663075]

>>14662916
If the big rip happens, planets and objects would be torn apart because of the expanding universe

[Anonymous No.14663088]

It's actually all a matter of how close to the eternal past or how far we might be;

Ironically it may be that the further we are from Realities early past the more likely God created this universe, because more time passed, the more chances for things to occur.

Ignoring the eternal paradox for a moment, unable to reference a starting time; if there has been 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999^99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999

Years of Reality history, there are more chances for Gods to arise and create universes, than if where we are on the ultimate timeline of Reality History, is much less.

[Anonymous No.14663089]

>>14663056

Note that it doesn't mean they will be meagre. If you are willing to sacrifice speed for processing power, you can get away with gloriously massive digital civilizations on part of the ones of the Stelliferous era. They will run things very slowly, but at this point it is not like there will be anything else to observe except your endless inner thoughts.

[Anonymous No.14663090]

>>14663075
Beat me to it. I don't see how the big rip isn't the strongest candidate.

[Anonymous No.14663091]

>>14663056
>The only for of intelligent intelligence capable of harvesting hawking radiation will have to be efficient enough to survive with less energy than the necessary to light up a lightbulb.
That sounds pretty impossible. The human brain is already extremely efficient, and it runs at around 100 watts.

[Anonymous No.14663141]

>>14663090
What is a boltzmann brain?

[Anonymous No.14663297]

If you're worried about heat death, just wait until you hear about vacuum decay.

Also something to think about: if cosmic inflation is true, we have no idea what caused it, and no reason to believe it can't happen again, or reverse, at literally any moment.

[Anonymous No.14663339]

>>14663091

You would be running at a much lower temperature than what it is possible in the present universe, likely close to absolute zero. so it would be much more efficient than what it is possible in the modern universe.

[Anonymous No.14663374]

>>14663339

Incidentally, that's another solution for the Fermi Paradox known as the Aestivation Hypothesis:

The hypothesis suggests that advanced alien civilizations may be storing energy and aestivating (hibernating in times of heat instead of cold), until the universe cools to better make use of the stored energy to perform tasks.

As the universe cools, the potential work producible by stored energy can increase by a multiplier of [math]10^{30}[/math] per Landauer's principle. If the goal of an advanced civilization is to maximize the number of calculations done, to generate information processing for tasks like mass-producing simulations, then aestivation would be purposeful to achieve this end.

[Anonymous No.14663389]

>>14662979
Actually, i think apes are using sticks and stones as tools. so maybe in a few hundred or thousand years they'll go from stone age to whatever age comes after that. bronze maybe?

[Anonymous No.14663412]

>>14663389

If we master space, we'll likely be the first and last natural-born intelligent species in this galaxy because we will already fill the niche and hoard every system that we can get our hand on within a million years. The moment that a spacefaring species arises is the moment when even free unclaimed stars are already an endangered species because we'll likely claim everything on our way. There won't be any alien that it is not a descendant or purposely uplifted by us.

[Anonymous No.14663419]

>>14662916
You are what 15-16? Give it 55 more years.

[Anonymous No.14663429]

>>14662916

There's evidence that Earth was once hot enough to have crocodiles and palm trees in the artic.

[Anonymous No.14663433]

>>14662916
You can create energy from nothing as long as you pay it back. Therefore heat death is a meme.

[Anonymous No.14663538]

>>14663433
>You can create energy from nothing as long as you pay it back.
kek. Don't do capitalism, kids!

[Anonymous No.14663902]

>>14662916
To be clear, that won't be the end. It only sets the stage for the next Big Bang (read Penrose). The Universe is in an eternal cycle.

[Anonymous No.14664016]

>>14662916
Neither the Big Bang is the absolute beginning of the universe, nor the Big Crunch is the absolute end of the universe. The entire universe is in a cyclical process. The universe emerged from the center of creation, that is, from the singularity point, where everything is one and neither space nor time exists. Eventually, the entire universe will go back to where it came from, the singularity point.

There is no personal creator in the universe, if you want to see a part of the creator, look in the mirror.

[Anonymous No.14664264]

>>14663412
lmao nigger we will never get anywhere farther than maybe a few planets away

[Anonymous No.14664308]

>>14664264
We could still send probes to nearby star systems to take photos of and analyze their planets.

[Anonymous No.14664321]

>>14664308
ok good luck claiming planets with ur probes, or just shove them up ur butt you fucking homo

[Anonymous No.14664352]

>>14664321

Using self replicaring probes is unironically one of the most efficient ways to claim the entire galaxy.

[Anonymous No.14664360]

>>14664352
lmao let me just spawn more probes out of thin air bro
actually not even air
holy fuck you faggots watch too much scifi bullshit channels on youtube

[Anonymous No.14664397]

>>14664360
Are you familiar with evolution? How come humans are capable of doing all these fancy things, but none of the other animals can? You could utilize eugenics over many generations to create hyperintelligent people. My biggest fear for humanity is the rest of us breeding with all the niggers. They reproduce at a much higher rate, and mixing with them would drastically lower the number of intelligent people over time. We could also theoretically develop devices that help people think faster, but that seems like something that would take real genius to develop, and might never be developed if people do end up reproducing with niggers.

[Anonymous No.14664400]

>>14663056
you are assuming that a civilization advanced enough to survive the heat death of the universe won't have the capability to dismantle a black hole.

[Anonymous No.14664755]

>>14662916
>At what point is intelligent life supposed to become impossible to sustain?
Never

>How much time do we really have left?
For what you should actually worry about, which is either your death or the coming of the Messiah? Any second now, but some say less than one hundred years due to us being at year 5782, and the Messiah coming a little before the year 6000 to match the start of the Shabbat, which starts at Friday

[Anonymous No.14666564]

bamp

[Anonymous No.14666574]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Earth

[Anonymous No.14666609]

>>14662916
We will never reach the stars, and our growth is going to stop soon.

The west has its priorities deciding which bathroom to use and pic related. If that doesn't stop it, WW3 will - where the west, Chinese, and Russians are going to be annihilated in nuclear fire.

We're near the end of the line.

[Anonymous No.14666827]

>>14662916
>>14662933
this is also a political question. the future of the universe depends not just on what is physically possible but also on what PEOPLE decide to do. forecasting human behavior runs up against a 2-year limit into the future, after which predictions break down in accuracy. therefore anybody pretending to know what is going to happen millions of years from now is delusionally overconfident. our knowledge of the universe tends to improve over time, so in a few decades some findings could fundamentally alter even our physical predictions of how things might play ou. another few hundred years later our view might be drastically different again in light of new evidence/theories/etc. this characteristic of scientific progress renders this thread science-fictional. we don't know what is going to happen 70 quadrillion years from now, just as we don't know what is going to happen 70 years from now.