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Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:06:13 2022 No.14659907 [Reply] [Original]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stealth-omicron-variant-covid-reinfection-b2122824.html

>They noted that, contrary to a popular held belief that vaccines and previous infection would provide “a wall of immunity”, nations are instead experiencing “wave after wave of new cases”.

Is this ADE?

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:15:12 2022 No.14659942

>>14659907
at this point covid is well and truly endemic in every population outside of china thanks to retards like you, so I question why we're still bothering with tests and vaccines. it's just a seasonal virus that is an order of magnitude or so deadlier than the flu varieties we're used to, big deal.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:15:55 2022 No.14659944 >>14659942 You got a source on that?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:20:06 2022 No.14659954 >>14659944 on what exactly?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:22:56 2022 No.14659961 I just got omicron from my parents and I have been triple-vaccinated (last one ~6.5 months ago). It's basically only affecting me with a headache and mainly some snot. I heard that the old vaccines still protect well the lower lungs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:24:23 2022 No.14659963 >>14659907 >wave of new cases yeah but it has mutated to almost a nothing-burger. I'm in a small town and almost everyone got it, and the old farts who got vaccinated go through it in ~3 days without hospitalization.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:27:23 2022 No.14659970 >>14659954 How often do you make unsubstantiated claims?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:28:27 2022 No.14659975 >>14659970 >unsubstantiated claims You mean settled science, chud.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:29:31 2022 No.14659979

During the start of the pandemic, everyone knew that increase of transmission would lead to increase in mutations. But it was easier for political leaders to score political points by just saying "business as usual everyone" and hope the virus would die out once it infected everyone like a forest fire with no more fuel to burn.

Everyone saw this coming. Everyone knew this is how it'd go down.
>contrary to a popular held belief
This just shows how many people are willing to believe in a lie, if it'll make them feel better.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:38:03 2022 No.14659994 >>14659961 Unvaccinated people aren't getting repeat infections, regardless of how mild

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:39:49 2022 No.14659999 >>14659907 >Is this ADE? No, this is just shitty vaccines that don't provide good immunity for long combined with natural mutations to eventually make that protection even more worthless.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:40:20 2022 No.14660003 >>14659994 wrong. unvaccinated people arent testing themselves so think they have a cold.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:40:22 2022 No.14660004 >>14659994 >Unvaccinated people aren't getting repeat infections Grandma can't get reinfected if you kill her. chud.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:43:40 2022 No.14660012 File: 197 KB, 1170x1661, 1606570319463.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14660003 shutting it all down again for the cold

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 17:43:48 2022 No.14660013

>>14659907
>Is this ADE?

No, ADE is conspiracytard delusions, they read something about marek's disease and extrapolated.
It's simply a virus with a fuckton of hosts worldwide constantly evolving to evade immunity.

>>14659994
>Unvaccinated people aren't getting repeat infections
They do, probably even more than the vaccinated if there was some studies, stop believing what you read on /pol/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 18:17:08 2022 No.14660111 >>14660013 >ADE is conspiracytard delusions Tell me about the mechanisms behind ADE and what things we would expect to be seeing

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 18:50:03 2022 No.14660211 File: 5 KB, 275x183, 1653292129778.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14659907 relax, viruses don't exist, and OP is shill and faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 19:03:31 2022 No.14660242 >>14659907 >popular held belief lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 19:16:41 2022 No.14660297 >>14660013 >If >Probably >They would Show me data not asumptions, vaxxie niggar

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 19:18:01 2022 No.14660304 >popular held belief

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 19:44:45 2022 No.14660395 >>14659942 >it's just a seasonal virus Seasonal implies being seasonal. Countries are getting wave after wave irrespective of the season.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 19:45:51 2022 No.14660399 >>14659961 >I heard that the old vaccines still protect well the lower lungs. Omicron moved away from the lungs to be a purely upper respiratory infection, though BA.4 and BA.5 may be traveling down the respiratory tract again.

Anonymous Thu Jul 14 19:47:26 2022 No.14660402

>>14660013
>They do, probably even more than the vaccinated if there was some studies
Anon, there's numerous studies on this. They wanted nothing more than to prove immunity from natural infection was worthless, and vaccine acquired immunity was superior. It didn't pan out that way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 19:49:09 2022 No.14660408 >>14660003 >the only reason case numbers are so low in unvaccinated people is because they aren't hysterically testing themselves every time their nose gets a little stuffed! wow, so it's all fucking nothing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 22:19:11 2022 No.14660819 >>14659907 Viruses are fake numbnuts. get a clue already

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 22:23:17 2022 No.14660831 >>14659961 >I heard that the old vaccines still protect well the lower lungs. nope, the old vaccine do fuck all, The new variants simply don't cause the same breathing issues as the alpha/beta variants from 2020.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 22:51:16 2022 No.14660885 File: 134 KB, 760x875, Vaxxed Pepo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14659907 >nations are instead experiencing “wave after wave of new cases”. The "vaccines" are causing it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 14 22:52:27 2022 No.14660889 >>14660012 >shutting it all down again for the cold And to steal elections in several countries that China wants to further control.

Anonymous Fri Jul 15 00:15:12 2022 No.14661126
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>>14659907
>While there’s a “high risk of exposure” to this variant, Malani said there were also “lots of reasons to be hopeful.”

>Early treatment with Paxlovid is now free for all Americans who may need it.

Paxlovid? Isn't that the thing that is making people test positive again after 21 days?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 00:44:03 2022 No.14661191 >>14659961 >I heard that the old vaccines still protect well the lower lungs. >I heard a shot to the arm produces serum antibodies not mucosal antibodies so no, it never did and never will. remember, there are no refunds.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 02:16:47 2022 No.14661410 >>14661126 >Paxlovid? Isn't that the thing that is making people test positive again after 21 days? Shush!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 03:45:41 2022 No.14661540 >>14660395 only the ones with legit lockdown schizos once they pay the immunity debt it might be over

Anonymous Fri Jul 15 03:51:34 2022 No.14661553

>>14660013
>ADE is conspiracytard delusions
ADE has always been a thing and well known thanks to dengue, marek's was the quasi-schizo one since it has never been observed outside industrial farms
Sounds like you're the guy reading something about muh pol and extrapolating

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 04:34:10 2022 No.14661661 >>14660402 No, they wanted to prove that vaccination is superior to unvaccinated, which they did in every single well performed study

Anonymous Fri Jul 15 04:38:27 2022 No.14661669

>>14660395
What do you think happens when you give everyone a vaccine that barely works?
You get endless variants.
The drug companies are loving it and our "leaders" are so focused getting a toe in the door with a global digital passport that they just don't care.
The want to be able to cut you off from anything, at anytime, for any reason.
Total reliance on the state

Anonymous Fri Jul 15 05:36:33 2022 No.14661760

>>14661661
>No, they wanted to prove that vaccination is superior to unvaccinated, which they did in every single well performed study
About the only time that actually worked out was when they compared boosters, limited the time frame to only two months post-booster, and pre-Omicron. Infection acquired immunity is enduring, providing significant protection even one year after infection. Vaccine immunity is basically gone by six months.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2118946
>The number of cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection per 100,000 person-days at risk (adjusted rate) increased with the time that had elapsed since vaccination with BNT162b2 or since previous infection. Among unvaccinated persons who had recovered from infection, this rate increased from 10.5 among those who had been infected 4 to less than 6 months previously to 30.2 among those who had been infected 1 year or more previously. Among persons who had received a single dose of vaccine after previous infection, the adjusted rate was low (3.7) among those who had been vaccinated less than 2 months previously but increased to 11.6 among those who had been vaccinated at least 6 months previously. Among previously uninfected persons who had received two doses of vaccine, the adjusted rate increased from 21.1 among those who had been vaccinated less than 2 months previously to 88.9 among those who had been vaccinated at least 6 months previously.

>>14661540
Even S. Africa had multiple waves that were out of season.

>>14661669
>You get endless variants.
True. Leaky vaccines have allowed plenty of chances for the virus to mutate.

Anonymous Fri Jul 15 05:43:53 2022 No.14661777

>>14661661
Here's another.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2203965
>The effectiveness of previous infection and no vaccination against symptomatic BA.2 infection was 46.1% (95% CI, 39.5 to 51.9) (Figure 1C and Table 2). The median interval between the previous infection and the PCR test used in the study was 319 days (range, 90 to 662; interquartile range, 275 to 499).

>The effectiveness of two doses of BNT162b2 and no previous infection was negligible (−1.1%; 95% CI, −7.1 to 4.6). The median interval between the second dose and the PCR test used in the study was 270 days (range, 14 to 399; interquartile range, 213 to 296).

>The effectiveness of three doses of BNT162b2 and no previous infection was 52.2% (95% CI, 48.1 to 55.9). The median interval between the third dose and the PCR test used in the study was 43 days (range, 7 to 322; interquartile range, 26 to 65).

So infection acquired immunity was still 46.1% effective at 319 days, two doses of vaccine were -1.1% effective at 270 days, and a third dose was 52.2% effective at 43 days.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 05:46:10 2022 No.14661783 >>14661669 out of curiosity what makes digital passport so malicious compared to "paper" passport?

Anonymous Fri Jul 15 06:45:56 2022 No.14661957

>>14661783
Digital passport can be revoked at any time, failing regional banks in China are locking clients out of their facilities by revoking their digital health passport whenever they get close, making them liable to being sent off to isolation camps for a week, and liable to arrest if they use facilities that require the health passport

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 07:45:39 2022 No.14662092 >>14661957 But that's China, that could not possibly happen in the west

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 08:38:13 2022 No.14662156 >>14662092 yeah, i thought the same before the patriot act, plenty of zoomies probably thought the same before the canadian truckers got depersoned

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 08:39:15 2022 No.14662159 >>14662092 have you heard of the dutch farmers?

Anonymous Fri Jul 15 08:41:05 2022 No.14662164

>>14661783
Because of the reasons they want such a system and it's not about travel.
All of your rights and privileges as human being can be turned on and off on a whim. Everything will be tied to this ID including your monetary funds.
Your behavior can be coerced through such a system. Not unlike China's social credit system.
They also want you to own nothing. You will not be able to reject the state and be self sufficient with any sort of comfort.
The technocratic elites who glowingly speak about these agendas have pretty much all of our western leaders on board.
You should take this seriously. The camels nose is in the tent. The framework is already in place thanks to covid. Next it will be climate crisis or another virus. Expect a manufactured "cyber threat" that requires a tighter internet that is also tied to your ID

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 08:47:09 2022 No.14662177 >>14661783 Take some time to listen and learn https://youtu.be/IC2KPf3Ul-E?t=100

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 09:22:19 2022 No.14662237 >>14659994 >‘Even having had Omicron, we’re not well protected from further infections,’ said Prof Danny Altmann

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 15 09:23:20 2022 No.14662238 >>14662159 The faggots that pretend they're Fridays for future and block highways?

Anonymous Fri Jul 15 18:26:32 2022 No.14663723

>>14662237
When will they finally just admit that there's no reasonable expectation to be fully protected against fast-mutating coronaviruses? Just make the shitty shots optional like the flu vaccines. Nobody catches and recovers from the flu and immediately goes to get a flu shot right after.

Anonymous Sat Jul 16 01:32:31 2022 No.14664702
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>>14661661
>No, they wanted to prove that vaccination is superior to unvaccinated, which they did in every single well performed study
HAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

Nope.

Wrong again Big Pharma shill bot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 16 01:33:46 2022 No.14664708 >>14662159 >have you heard of the dutch farmers? They are learning to MTNGA! Our wooden shoe MAGA bros.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 16 06:42:44 2022 No.14665427 File: 123 KB, 1024x633, 1645056101788.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14664702 daily reminder

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 16 06:59:07 2022 No.14665458 >>14659907 >register for free to continue reading Not doing it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 16 09:47:26 2022 No.14665836 File: 234 KB, 545x530, acd 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >catch Covid >finally passes >breath constantly feels short What the fuck did Covid do to my respiratory system?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 16 09:54:11 2022 No.14665851 >>14659907 Yes, we're just lucky the virus got weaker, not stronger, enough to offset the worst effects of ADE

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 16 10:59:32 2022 No.14665938 >>14665427 You're stupid. I'm triple vaccinated and I would probably advice to not get vaccinated now. Retards like you spread it so fast that it mutated to a form there's no vaccine yet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 16 11:12:40 2022 No.14665965 >>14665938 I was vaccinated long enough ago that any protection I had is now gone. Is it really pointless to get vaccinated now?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 16 11:15:17 2022 No.14665969 >>14659907 we always knew covid was here to stay, i don't think anyone except politicians placating people would have said otherwise

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 16 11:20:24 2022 No.14665977 >>14661760 So why are politicians, and health officials still pushing vaccines?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 16 13:42:56 2022 No.14666312 >>14665977 Because of fear of nos know what to do and money

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 16 14:03:01 2022 No.14666371 >>14659907 The /pol/ moniker of Communist Lung Herpes ironically lived up to its name The economic disruption of so many people being ill at any given time forever certainly will be felt

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 16 14:07:35 2022 No.14666384 >>14665977 Sunk cost fallacy, they've purchased hundreds of millions of doses that are going unused.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 16 14:25:17 2022 No.14666422 >>14665836 >What the fuck did Covid do to my respiratory system? It's impossible to tell. It's still early days so we still know next to nothing about SARS-CoV-2 and the diseases it may cause

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 16 14:27:27 2022 No.14666429 >>14665938 >Retards like you spread it so fast that it mutated to a form there's no vaccine yet. Hehue, totally not the irresponsible behavior from people taking a leaky vaccine and pretending it isn't leaky

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 16 15:01:46 2022 No.14666492 >>14659975 >You mean settled science, chud Yes, because "settled science" is a synonym for unsubstantiated claims.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 16 15:23:11 2022 No.14666545 >>14665836 It damages your lungs, go check them to asset the damage. Also it damages your brain, the smell and taste loss (if you had them) its a brain thing, not a nose/throat thing.

Anonymous Sat Jul 16 19:27:24 2022 No.14667207

>>14666384
What's weird to me is the USA just agreed to buy $3.2 billion worth of updated Pfizer boosters. We already heard the stories about how they were forced to throw away almost 100 million expired doses because uptake was low, and they just purchased 100 million more doses? Their decision making is not logical at all, at least from both a financial and health perspective.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-agrees-to-pay-3-2-billion-for-more-pfizer-covid-vaccines-11656535593
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/covid-vaccine-doses-wasted-rcna31399

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