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>> No.14646879

I’ve been to all of those galaxies. They are nothing special.

>> No.14646914

>>14646879
that one over there has space blackjack and blue hookers

>> No.14646923

*farts*

>> No.14646934

Space has galaxies in it.
Who knew?

>> No.14646949

>>14646914
*raises you 100 dark matter chips*

>> No.14646954

So what did we learn by those pictures? How far back are we looking and are there any surprises?

>> No.14646955

>>14646821
Some light seems warped, is that just an effect f it traveling so far? or the telescope itself?

>> No.14646958

how is this any different than literally every other space pic we've taken

>> No.14646961

is that a quasar in the center? i’m pogging rn

>> No.14646968

>>14646879
Andromeda has some pretty good barbeque places

>> No.14646982

>>14646923
Lol.

Funny contrast. 60+ billion, lots of time and effort. *farts* to the result.

>> No.14646988

Why can’t the point it at a cool looking planet or something?

>> No.14647005
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>>14646949
pass the guac

>> No.14647014
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14647014

>2.9MiB lower quality pic
wtf?

>> No.14647016

>>14646821
Is this considered "dense" at this early in the universe?

>> No.14647027

>>14646955
The centre galaxies gravity is wrapping light. Some of those blurred galaxies at the edges might actually be behind it and way more distant.

>> No.14647029

>>FULL RESOLUTION
https://stsci-opo.org/STScI-01G7JJADTH90FR98AKKJFKSS0B.png

This image shows many overlapping objects at various distances. They include foreground stars, galaxies
in a galaxy cluster, and distorted background galaxies behind the galaxy cluster.
The background of space is black. Thousands of small galaxies appear across the image. Their colors
vary. Some are shades of orange, others are white. Most appear as fuzzy ovals, but a few have
distinctive spiral arms.
In front of the galaxies are several foreground stars. Most appear blue with diffraction spikes, forming
eight-pointed star shapes. Some look as large as the galaxies that appear next to them.
A very bright star is slightly off center. It has eight blue, long diffraction spikes. In the center of the
image, between 4 o’clock and 6 o’clock in the bright star’s spikes, are several bright, white galaxies.
These are members of the galaxy cluster.
There are also many thin, long, orange arcs. They follow invisible concentric circles that curve around
the center of the image. These are images of background galaxies that have been stretched and
distorted by the foreground galaxy cluster.

https://webbtelescope.org/contents/media/images/2022/038/01G7JGTH21B5GN9VCYAHBXKSD1

>> No.14647036

>>14646821
What is in this picture? Anything cool? Can we zoom in to those blobs of light or is this the highest resolution?

>> No.14647047

>>14647014
phone posters are retards who screenshot shit to save it

>> No.14647058
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>>14647014
what the fuck is going on here? it looks like a square image was photoshopped in

>> No.14647062

>>14647027
Thank you.

>> No.14647081

>>14646821
which galaxy has the hottest babes

>> No.14647082

>>14646821
Call me crazy but why is it look so artificial?

>> No.14647084

>>14647029
NASA’s James Webb Space Telescope has produced the deepest and sharpest infrared image of the distant universe to date. Known as Webb’s First Deep Field, this image of galaxy cluster SMACS 0723 is overflowing with detail.

Thousands of galaxies – including the faintest objects ever observed in the infrared – have appeared in Webb’s view for the first time. This slice of the vast universe is approximately the size of a grain of sand held at arm’s length by someone on the ground.

This deep field, taken by Webb’s Near-Infrared Camera (NIRCam), is a composite made from images at different wavelengths, totaling 12.5 hours – achieving depths at infrared wavelengths beyond the Hubble Space Telescope’s deepest fields, which took weeks.

The image shows the galaxy cluster SMACS 0723 as it appeared 4.6 billion years ago. The combined mass of this galaxy cluster acts as a gravitational lens, magnifying much more distant galaxies behind it. Webb’s NIRCam has brought those distant galaxies into sharp focus – they have tiny, faint structures that have never been seen before, including star clusters and diffuse features. Researchers will soon begin to learn more about the galaxies’ masses, ages, histories, and compositions, as Webb seeks the earliest galaxies in the universe.

>> No.14647092

>JWST FUCK MY SHIT UP

>> No.14647102

>>14647005
Are those from Milliways? Very nice!

>> No.14647108

>>14647082
Not enough trees

>> No.14647109

>>14647014
>Thousands of galaxies – including the faintest objects ever observed in the infrared – have appeared in Webb’s view for the first time. This slice of the vast universe is approximately the size of a grain of sand held at arm’s length by someone on the ground.

exactly how many galaxies are in that image? i can't count beyond my fingers and toes.

>> No.14647127

>>14647014
me in the lower left

>> No.14647128

>>14647082
see >>14647084
>This deep field, taken by Webb’s Near-Infrared Camera (NIRCam), is a composite made from images at different wavelengths, totaling 12.5 hours – achieving depths at infrared wavelengths beyond the Hubble Space Telescope’s deepest fields, which took weeks.

>> No.14647156

>>14647058
Distortion from gravitational lensing from a massive object at the center of the image I believe

>> No.14647164

>>14647092
how long were you waiting to use that?

>> No.14647168
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>>14647082
It's a shit image. This one is better.

>> No.14647169
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14647169

>im drunk nigga

>> No.14647170

Remember to ignore tourist bait threads

>> No.14647177

>>14647168
HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE...

>> No.14647181

When do we get the other photos, and what can we expect to see in those

>> No.14647187

>>14647181
tomorrowstan

>> No.14647192
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14647192

So what is the oldest thing in these photos? Is there anything like a primordial galaxy formation that we can see now?

Also, all PR photo ops aside, has this image (and others) shed any light on things like the shape/age of the universe and how it was originally formed? Or is that analysis coming later

>> No.14647199

>>14647181
Update: On Friday, July 8th, NASA released the targets for Webb's first wave of full-color scientific images that mark the official beginning of Webb’s operations. They were selected by an international committee of representatives from NASA, ESA, CSA, and the Space Telescope Science Institute.

Targets are listed below, courtesy of NASA.

Carina Nebula. The Carina Nebula is one of the largest and brightest nebulae in the sky, located approximately 7,600 light-years away in the southern constellation Carina. Nebulae are stellar nurseries where stars form. The Carina Nebula is home to many massive stars, several times larger than the Sun.

WASP-96 b (spectrum). WASP-96 b is a giant planet outside our solar system, composed mainly of gas. The planet, located nearly 1,150 light-years from Earth, orbits its star every 3.4 days. It has about half the mass of Jupiter, and its discovery was announced in 2014.

Southern Ring Nebula. The Southern Ring, or “Eight-Burst” nebula, is a planetary nebula – an expanding cloud of gas, surrounding a dying star. It is nearly half a light-year in diameter and is located approximately 2,000 light-years away from Earth.

Stephan’s Quintet: About 290 million light-years away, Stephan’s Quintet is located in the constellation Pegasus. It is notable for being the first compact galaxy group ever discovered in 1877. Four of the five galaxies within the quintet are locked in a cosmic dance of repeated close encounters.

SMACS 0723: Massive foreground galaxy clusters magnify and distort the light of objects behind them, permitting a deep field view into both the extremely distant and intrinsically faint galaxy populations. Update: On Sunday, NASA announced that the White House would reveal one of the images early on Monday afternoon July 11th at 5:00 PM ET. The event will be streamed live.

>> No.14647203
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Looks exactly the same as the hubble deep field pic.....

>> No.14647208

>>14647192
Me.

>> No.14647209
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14647209

Prettiest one.

>> No.14647211

I wonder who leaked it

>> No.14647218

Are they ever going to point this thing in the direction of a supervoid? Would that full anyway?

>> No.14647223

>>14647181
July 12 they are releasing the others.

>> No.14647225

>>14647211
Came straight from Hunter's phone

>> No.14647228

>>14647192
The image is from galaxies roughly 100 million years after the big bang

>> No.14647232
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14647232

same location but from Hubble

idk how to scale down 23mb PNGs, if you want full res:

https://archive.stsci.edu/missions/hlsp/relics/smacs0723-73/color_images/hlsp_relics_hst_acs-wfc3ir_smacs0723-73_multi_v1_color.png

>> No.14647239

don't mind me just here to remind you that inflation is retarded mental gymnastics and penrose is right

>> No.14647245

>>14647239
same with dark matter. If Dark Matter was real all the galaxies would be jumbled up together.

>> No.14647246
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14647246

What is this?
It's so red, point of creation? Hand of God?

>> No.14647249

>>14647246
a very far away galaxy

>> No.14647251

>>14646821
how many souls do you think were captured in this image

>> No.14647255
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14647255

Hubble did this in 1995
This is lame

>> No.14647265

>>14647255
I mean besides higher magnification what are we expecting?

Note that the targets to be released soon are mostly in the Milky Way hopefully those turn out well.

>> No.14647276

>>14647255
Why is there some much lensing in the jwst photo but almost none in hubble's image?

>> No.14647277

>>14647209
looks so good it almost seems fake

>> No.14647285

>>14647168
Thanks!

>> No.14647290

>>14647276
They had decades to scope out a better place to look?

>> No.14647291
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>>14647255
You can see the real power of Webb when you compare the Webb image with the same patch of sky imaged by Hubble. The difference is night and day

>> No.14647301

>>14647291
Look at the galaxy that is heavily distorted by gravitational lensing for a really nice comparison of how much better Webb is.

>> No.14647304

>>14647291
wonder what the capture time is for both images

>> No.14647306

>>14647291
idk man they kinda look the same honestly

>> No.14647307

>>14646821
10 billion dollars for this
we could be extending lifespans with that money

>> No.14647308
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14647308

Are the dots you can see in the centre galaxies or noise?

>> No.14647310

>>14647014
scaled and rotated the old hubble picture for comparison

brehs, they added new galaxies

>> No.14647311

>>14647291
They hired JJ Abrams for more lens flares

>> No.14647318
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>>14647306
Compare these 2 spots

>> No.14647320

>>14647304
"This deep field, taken by Webb’s Near-Infrared Camera (NIRCam), is a composite made from images at different wavelengths, totaling 12.5 hours – achieving depths at infrared wavelengths beyond the Hubble Space Telescope’s deepest fields, which took weeks."
https://webbtelescope.org/contents/media/images/2022/038/01G7JGTH21B5GN9VCYAHBXKSD1

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>>14647169
>there exists an angle visible to intelligent life capable of creating telescopes that has our own Milky Way Galaxy getting warped by the gravitational lensing from a star nearby to them

>> No.14647323
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>>14647014
>>14647310

>> No.14647324
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cant wait to see what the release over the next

>2 weeks

>> No.14647329

>>14647276
they pointed this one at a known massive galaxy

>> No.14647335

that exoplanet image better knock my socks off

>> No.14647343

Imagine how many qt alien girls there are in this single image...

>> No.14647346

>>14647276
If you look at the comparison images you can see there is lensing in Hubble too, Hubble just has lower light gathering power so it's not as obvious. In the Hubble image you can see the lensing as faint red lines

>>14647291

>> No.14647351

>>14647318
this is barely a jump from 360p to 480p quality

>> No.14647352

>>14647343
Read Genesis
There are no aliens, God didn't create them

>> No.14647357

>>14647246
A very redshifted galaxy, so extremely distant and probably among the first galaxies to be created. It's theorized that primitive galaxies are mostly composed of hydrogen and helium.

>> No.14647361
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quick and dirty comparison overlay

>> No.14647362

>>14647323
wow Hubble looks like shit in comparison
>>14647351
retard

>> No.14647366

>>14647291
i was kind of disappointed initially but this is pretty impressive if you compare it like this. also hubble took weeks to take its deep field image while webb took 12.5 for this. can't wait to see what else it can do.

>> No.14647367

>>14647352
Hmmm no thanks I'll pass on the old book thingy.

>> No.14647369

Can we see the dinosaurs?

>> No.14647373

can we see the cum?

>> No.14647376

Thank Biden we finally have James Webb!

>> No.14647377

>>14647366
I wish they had someone at the briefing actually *explain* and contextualize the image. And zoom in on some galaxies.

>> No.14647378
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>>14647362
hey man you cant talk to her like that

>> No.14647384

>>14647058
it's a sprial bar galaxy on viewed a few degrees on edge

>> No.14647387

>>14647291
It is a bigger upgrade than I originally thought, I'm having hope for these >>14647199 being awesome still.

>> No.14647389

>>14647255
>Hubble did this in 1995
No it didn't. That's the Ultra Deep Field, which was done with ACS. Which didn't exist in 1995.

>> No.14647393

>>14647291
Me when I go from a 6'' dob to a 12''

>> No.14647394

So which is the structure creating all the gravitational pull in the centre, or is it a group?

>> No.14647399

>>14647394
The combined mass of the galaxy cluster creates the gravitational lens effect, magnifying and warping the much more distant galaxies behind it

>> No.14647403

>>14647394
It's a galaxy cluster right in the middle there's a huge ass one and more smaller ones next to it all the diffuse white lights near the middle

The bigger lights with rays are just nearby stars

>> No.14647410

>>14647335
It's a grainy shadow in front of a star. Sorry to ruin the surprise.

>> No.14647412

>>14647399
Circle the galaxy cluster for me pls, like >>14647318

>> No.14647416

>>14647209
cute

>> No.14647418

Ultra high res version available here

https://i.postimg.cc/dt5sTYYy/deepfield.png

>> No.14647421

Retarded question but, how do they tell the difference between a really far away but massive star and closer but smaller star?

>> No.14647425

>>14647418
Don't download this, it broke my PS2.

>> No.14647427
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14647427

>tfw this beautiful galaxy could hold my soul mate but it's to far to ever reach

>> No.14647428

>>14647251

0. We're all there is.

>> No.14647431

>>14647421
for something this far away, redshift

https://nsnsearch.com/faq/how-do-astronomers-use-redshift-to-determine-distances/

>> No.14647436

>>14647399
>>14647403
So it's just a focal effect and not a physical one?

>> No.14647438

>>14647421
cepheids and supernovas

>> No.14647440
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14647440

I wonder whats happening in the hell galaxy

>> No.14647441

>>14647412
You can't really circle only the cluster, because the whole photo is capturing the cluster (SMACS 0723). The galaxies in the "foreground" are the clearer, sharper ones, and the ones in the background are the more warped, blurrier ones
>>14647436
Yes, but the focal effect is from the physical distortion of spacetime

>> No.14647442

>>14647427
I checked bro, none of them are interested

>> No.14647444

>>14647436
It is a physical one the light is really being bent because all the mass around the galaxy cluster literally bend space and light follows that bent path

>> No.14647448

>>14647436
The light is actually being "bent" by gravitational fields if that's what your asking. It's not just a trick of the telescopes lens. If you took a picture of the galaxies from the other side of the large stellar masses they would appear normal.

>> No.14647455

I'm going back to listening to schizos and crank theoirists, at least they're entertaining. Defund STEM, science is over.

>> No.14647461

>>14647455
<<<<<<<<<< >/pol/ is that way

>> No.14647465

>>14647421
Distance to stars up to a few hundred light years away can be directly measured using parallax (how these stars "move" in the sky as the Earth moves on its orbit). Just apply basig trigonometry and you get the distance. From these stars here you get a relationship between brightness and color, and you apply to stars further away. We can know their color, so we can estimate how bright they really are, and from there we can estimate how far away they are.
For shit REALLY far away (millions to billions of ly away) measurement of the doppler effect caused by the universe's expansion (known because it was measured precisely by measuring a specific type of supernova which always explodes with the same intensity) is used. The redder shifted it is, the further away it is. Galaxies too far away fall into infrared territory, this is why James Webb was fine tuned mostly to measure infrarred frequencies.

>> No.14647471

>>14647251
Zero. Only Humans have souls.

>> No.14647470

>>14646821
so did they fuck up the alignment or are we in wacky land?

>> No.14647475

The more interesting things in my opinion is the most faintest background galaxy dots, and their lack or not of homogeneity across the span of the picture.

Because some direction we take an image in will be towards the center of the universe, and some direction will be towards it's perimeter

Also any extreme anomalies are intersting.

Also exoplanets

>> No.14647476

>>14647470
Gravitational lensing.

>> No.14647480

>>14646821
can we apply some ML to remove the gravitational distortion?

>> No.14647481

>>14647475
There's no center in the universe. It doesn't even make sense to talk about a "center". You could say it happened everywhere.

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kneel.

>> No.14647495
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>>14646821
Gravitational lensing :OOO

>> No.14647499

i know no one here believes in astrology. but these pic are pure horror to me. i can only imagine the horrors going on in them galaxy's right now :(

>> No.14647501

>>14647495
I look like that

>> No.14647506

>>14646958
it's not
the taxpayers got hoodwinked

>> No.14647508

>>14647495
seriously? why the fuck would they spend 10 billion for a clown mirror? there must have been a better way.

>> No.14647515

>>14647499
there has to be billions upon billions of aliens having fucking in those galaxies...

>> No.14647519

what the super bright ones? massive stars?

>> No.14647524

>>14647519
just nearby stars

>> No.14647525

>>14647515
having what?

>> No.14647526 [DELETED] 

>>14647489
Is that a quasar?

>> No.14647529

>>14647519
Nah, probably normal very close stars inside our own galaxy.

>> No.14647535

>>14647526
no it's 2 galaxies billions of light years apart

the red one is far away and the white one is closer by

>> No.14647537

>>14647489
i was just going to ask WTF is that.

>> No.14647548

why can't machine learning remove the clown mirror effect

>> No.14647549

"If you held a grain of sand on the tip of your finger at arms length, that is the part of the universe that you're seeing. Just one little speck of the universe," he said

mind boggling

>> No.14647553

how has someone not edited this to show the hunter leaks https://twitter.com/CNET/status/1546636937775153152

>> No.14647555

>>14647481
Where did all the parrots pick up this false statement?

Infinity means cannot exist at any given time.

Therefore there can not exist right now, or at any given time an infinite amount of galaxies.

Therefore the total quantity of galaxies are in an assembly in relation to one another, therefore they compose roughly some shape that like all shapes have a perimeter and center.

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>>14646821
looks like shit frankly.

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>> No.14647569

>>14647561
why are you lying? it's not funny :(

>> No.14647570

>>14647499
Think about all the alien music made with different materials in different densities of atmosphere.

Think of all the different alien architecture, and sports, and fashion styles.

>> No.14647574

>>14646821
I can look up space wallpapers on google images and get tons of cool pics for free. These nerds spent billions of dollars to get just a few photos that don’t even look cool, what gives?

>> No.14647577

>>14647014
>>14646821
>that shiny one in the middle
God confirmed?

>> No.14647578

oh wow it's fucking nothing

>> No.14647583

>>14646821
wow, galaxies that no human or posthuman will ever interact with. show me exoplanets with alien babes to conquer in the milky way.

>> No.14647590

>>14647561
Pause at 6 or 7 seconds, are all those white dots really in the image? You can't see them without zooming?

>> No.14647592

>>14647431
>>14647438
>>14647465
Thanks anons. If I were rich I'd dedicate my life to astronomy. It's so fascinating.

>> No.14647595

>>14646821
So does this mean they can use this technology to zoom in on Proxima Centauri to see if there's fucking life already?

>> No.14647602

>>14647595
No. We'd need Earth sized telescopes to see that level of detail from this far away.

>> No.14647608

>>14647590
you need to zoom in on the full res image to see them

https://stsci-opo.org/STScI-01G7JJADTH90FR98AKKJFKSS0B.png

it's 28MB

>> No.14647609

I’m too pea brain to understand colors.
Does nasa just go “hehe this galaxy will look good in blue” or are we actually able to know what the color of everything is. This is the thing that filters me most about space photos after learning it’s originally in black and white

>> No.14647619

>>14647583
The point of these is to gain an understanding of the early stages of the universe

>> No.14647623

>>14647602
>>14647595
Signs of advanced life like satelites around the planet (would this be detected if some planet had weird light reflections?) maybe?

And also it hard to zoom into the planet without being blinded by its star?

>> No.14647627

>>14647609
I would also like to know this

>> No.14647633

>>14647058
N

>> No.14647642

>>14647352
Any books about qt humanoid alien girls?

>> No.14647643

>>14647608
Has the most distant Galaxy out of all them been labeled yet or is that impossible to tell exact which is furthest?

Also the faintest, also intersting, the very point where 0 signal just barely barely barely goes beyond 0signal to say 'theres a galaxy here'

>> No.14647645

>>14647561
fake shit from plebbit

>> No.14647652

>>14647609
>>14647627
Someone more informed should comment, but I think they shift the wavelengths. Say you have infrared light from 1000 to 1500 nm. You can divide the wavelength by 2.5 and get a range of 400 to 600 nm. Which is in the visible range.

>> No.14647655

>>14647570
ok great? think all the fucked up experiments they have done to animals. maybe they have no morals like us. i hate the fucking place so much its nothing but hellish. we have morals and Russians used a entire town the full of people to test nukes on for like 40 years. just imagine the horrors all these faggots are doing. we kill 6 billion animals a year to feed our selfs just to make shitty music and movies and buildings

>> No.14647662
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>LOOK AT LE DISTORTED GALAXY PIC FOR THE 100TH TIME
>WE WILL NEVER SHOW YOU AN ACTUAL PLANET OR THE EXTRATERRESTIAL MEGASTRUCTURE WE RECENTLY DISCOVERED THAT'S WAY CLOSER LOL

>> No.14647675
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>>14647662
>NASA hiding evidence of type 3 civs

Go post this on /x/ and watch the fireworks

>> No.14647685
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>>14647058
I see a wizard sieg hieling

>> No.14647690

>>14647685
anon...

>> No.14647691

>>14647662
Seriously I'm sure theres an explanation but why aren't we looking at closer bodies to see them in the best detail possible.
Maybe it's because these scientists all know we are trapped in our solar system for another 10k-100k years if not forever due to having no feasible way to travel FtL.
By current tech we'd need multiple generations of people devoting their entire lives on one vessel just travel to alpha centauri, one way

>> No.14647694

>>14647685
Grow up

>> No.14647698

>>14647685
lol

>> No.14647699

>casually joking and making memes about an imagine which would have caused your ancestors minds to literally drain out of their ears
>staring at a million galaxies and a trillion stars in high definition and not immediately weeping
>taking for granted what is likely one of the greatest scientific achievements of humanity to date
you all should be ASHAMED

>> No.14647700

>>14647307
>we could be extending lifespans with that money
no thanks

>> No.14647701

>>14647685
That does look like persons face

>> No.14647706

>>14647699
I won’t be satisfied until I get an alien gf from a galaxy on the other side of the observable universe

>> No.14647707

>>14647685
That or a witch on a vacuum cleaner though that would be normie lame

>> No.14647711
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>>14647699
sir this is 4chan, look around

>> No.14647716

>>14647699
lol someone has never seen the milky way at night with no moon.

>> No.14647717

>>14647699
Someone needs to shoop it into that guy stretching out his asshole

>> No.14647724
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>>14647699
I CAN'T BREATHE

>> No.14647727

>>14647291
I mean, it's not that different considering there are 30 plus years between the Hubble and JWST.

I'm glad it's actually working, but the Hubble was legit a game changer for astronomy and invoked a lot of wonder in the world. While these pictures are impressive, it doesn't have the expected punch.

>> No.14647729

>>14647699
I HECKIN LOVE SCIENCERINO!!

>> No.14647735
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>>14647724

>> No.14647737

>>14647291
something really fishy going on here way take the same picture from 30 years ago? thats dumb i want to see never before seen crazy shit not photoshooped bs.

>> No.14647747

>>14647246
its a recording light. we are being recorded,camera is ON

>> No.14647749

>>14647737
70iq bros unite

>> No.14647754

>>14647699
It's just not that impressive. I'm sorry. It's cool, but just not that impressive.

People don't care about the stars and the only reason ancients cared about them is because they thought they influenced behavior (in reality they just act as clocks).

>> No.14647756

>>14647737
It's a test to show how much quicker and better it is compared to the old telescope

>> No.14647772
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Closer comparison 1

>> No.14647779

>>14646821
so a 2.75MB 1532x1574 image
is that it?

>> No.14647780
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>>14647772
Closer comparison 2

>> No.14647788

>>14647772
How cutting edge was this image and how much were they stretching the capabilities of the telescope when they took it?

>> No.14647796

>>14647772
>>14647780
yeah ok. now i know the new telescope does not even exist and it was just money a laundering scheme.

>> No.14647800

>>14647655
Doesn’t matter if you stepped on 1 bug or killed trillions of cows, it’s still death caused by our selfishness. Might as well take what’s ours

>> No.14647806

>>14647209
Cousins? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGC_4921

>> No.14647807

>>14647724
kek

>> No.14647808

>>14646821
Trillions of sentient beings are having sex in this pic

>> No.14647814

I hate the hexagonal lense flare

>> No.14647816
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>>14647772
>>14647780
someone should make a webm

>> No.14647818

Reminder that according to flat earthers all of these pics are photoshopped because we lack the tech to go into space, let alone tech being something you can physically go to

>> No.14647821

>>14647800
the death is not the issue we do it in the most horrible ways possible to max out the suffering. its even way worse now that we have the ability to grow lab meat.

>> No.14647824

>>14647816
That red one in the top right is a technosignature

>> No.14647825

>>14647814
indeed its pretty rough, but price you pay for such a large collection area

>> No.14647826

>>14647685
I can't unsee it now.

>> No.14647838

>>14647821
...Production which if halted immediately and reworked to be more “humane” (they aren’t even humans doofus) would starve millions because they don’t have access to other foods. We’re in too deep as it stands

>> No.14647847

>>14647685
now yuo see...

>> No.14647858

>>14647838
i really hope at your death you get a life review and you are forced to exp all the pain and suffering caused by factory farming in the last 60 years. then pinhead shows up and takes you hell and you exp pain and suffering that you can not even comprehend. fucking ignorant faggot.

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>>14647717

>> No.14647873
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>>14647858
>I have never seen a farm before in my entire life

>> No.14647879

>>14647858
And what are you doing that’s so productive for the cause? If the crimes being committed were so deplorable you’d surely do something about it, rather than arguing with some consumer schmuck who has nothing to do with the issue at large?

>> No.14647887

Are we only capable of seeing half of the universe? Like is our galaxy blocking the other side of the universe? And if we were on the other side of the milkyway would we even see very old galaxies like
>>14647246
My brain is melting

>> No.14647892

>>14647058
That's where Wakanda is

>> No.14647894

>>14647873
come on are you trolling? do you know how chickens are raised?

>> No.14647902

>>14647879
that's the worst part is helplessness

>> No.14647908

>>14647685
>sprinkles zyklon on a 6 point start

>> No.14647919

Whats life like in the bendy galaxies?

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>>14647816

>> No.14647945
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>> No.14647973

>>14647945
cool

>> No.14647986

why is it so lensed

>> No.14647991

>>14647986
wacky clown mirrors

>> No.14647994

>>14647685
cannot unsee
>>14647694
lol

>> No.14648008

>>14647643
>Has the most distant Galaxy out of all them been labeled yet or is that impossible to tell exact which is furthest?
>Also the faintest, also intersting, the very point where 0 signal just barely barely barely goes beyond 0signal to say 'theres a galaxy here

>> No.14648014

>>14647945
All this just to see the same dumb picture in HD, 1 billion dollars in tax payers money and 20 years of technology, just to see dumb pictures of known universe.

>> No.14648015

>>14647357
the origin of this red dot probably doesnt even exist anymore right?

>> No.14648024
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>>14646821
As painful as it can be sometimes, I'm really happy I exist, that I'm alive to witness and technically be apart of something so vast and beautiful.

>> No.14648026

>>14647324
>just 2 more weeks

>> No.14648027

>tfw you are looking at thousands of not millions or billions of long forgotten and dead civilizations of countless different planets, stories, war, technology ....all long gone and lost never to be seen by a human eye.

Kind of sad.

>> No.14648034

>>14647699
I hate these zoomers too anon. They view everything through a hyper-reductive, forced "lol so quirky" pseudoironic cynical lens.

>> No.14648038

>>14648027
don't be sad that its over, smile that it happened, that all those lifeforms roughly got to the same position of pondering that we can be at now, and there will be more to come.
>lost never to be seen by a human eye
they recessitated near- precambarian era cellular life the other day. anything's possible

>> No.14648074

The image is cool, but
>influx of retarded astrophysicist interpretations of red smudges is definitely gravitational lensing, black holes, [insert object from theoretical zoo here]
>redditor sci-fi fantasies and nihilist boo-hooing because space big

>> No.14648100

>>14647440
sinning and debauchery
also, it may be hell

>> No.14648102

>>14648014
Kill astronomers on site

>> No.14648128

>>14646821
That's cool and all, but what has this done to advance us? Unless fueling more astronomer egos to post zany facts on reddit counts.

>> No.14648177

>>14647691
Resolution is limited by the size of the telescope aperture
EHT but with optical interferometers when?

>> No.14648211

>>14647685
Nice. We'll call it the Nazi Magician Galaxy (M1488)

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>>14648128
>what has this done to advance us?
You could ask the same question about any form of discovery, experiment, engineering feat, work of art. What do you mean by "advance us?" Increase the GDP? More Hot Pockets flavors? Hot Pockets wouldn't exist without the long history of food sciences, microwave technology, etc.

The rest of the internet is subconscious blackpilling -- a facade of happy fun life surrounding a world built on suffering and misery, designed to make you feel depressed and powerless. 4chan is just overt direct blackpilling: poisoning the well, abandoning all sense of wonder at this incredible world and universe that surrounds it. Reject it. Appreciate beauty. You don't have to believe in God to accept the possibility that there could be a God, and that there could be immeasurable beauty outside of the forced misery of the modern world. Shills and unhappy people want you to give up and to not experience joy. Fuck them

>> No.14648265

>>14647352
>>14647367
>>14647642
In the Bible it says Elohim is plural, why?

>> No.14648266

>>14647470
how do the electral universe dudes explain gravitational lensing

>> No.14648314
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>>14647816
>that one galaxy completely disappearing in the IR

>> No.14648331

>>14647357
>created
By who?

>> No.14648334

>>14648314
And it's also so much bigger than almost all the other visible galaxies. Imagine how fucking massive it must be if it's so far away and appears so big

>> No.14648335

>>14648266
Refraction.

>> No.14648446
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>>14647232
Reduced to 4mb.
Higher resolutions can be found here:

https://webbtelescope.org/contents/media/images/2022/038/01G7JGTH21B5GN9VCYAHBXKSD1

>> No.14648467

Webb could easily make a video, at 24 pictures per second, right? It would be cool if they took a video of a pulsar, showing the nebulas/dust clouds around it lighting up with every rotation.

>> No.14648478

>>14648467
That's a good question actually - I know I read something a while back about time studies but I don't remember the exactly details.

>> No.14648485

>>14647887
in theory it shouldn't matter which way we look

>> No.14648491

>>14646821
All this stuff is meaningless, even with a magic fast spaceship, it would the take the time the entire history of the human race x4000 for us to reach any of this.
Any astronomy past the solar system is a waste of time for at least the next 400 years

>> No.14648498

>>14647029
>Most appear blue with diffraction spikes, forming
>eight-pointed star shapes.
What makes that happen, I thought than was a Lense effect

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>>14648498

>> No.14648510

>>14648501
Thanks.
Can’t they correct for that

>> No.14648511

>>14647887
Not half of everything but a decent chunk of the visible wavelength
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_of_Avoidance

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>>14647014
>>14647029
What's going on here?

>> No.14648517
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>>14648515
Slightly more zoomed out

>> No.14648528

>>14647209
i would

>> No.14648610

>>14647724
well done, anon.

>> No.14648617

>>14647209
Why am I sexually aroused by this galaxy?

>> No.14648637
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14648637

Found a faint red sus galaxy.

>> No.14648649

>>14646821
Absolutely mind blowing. All those galaxies, each one with billions or even trillions of stars, planets and who knows what else.

>> No.14648659

>>14646914
some alien shithead is fucking a blue goddess while we are stuck here, FUCK

>> No.14648665

>>14648659
Just paint your gf blue anon.

>> No.14648676

>>14648665
I only pay them for an hour so I don't think there is enough time

>> No.14648754

Just got off a long plane trip and this is the first thing I see when I finally get home and turn on 4chan. Awesome, no irony at all.

>> No.14648764

>>14647577
>>>/x/

>> No.14648765

>>14648038
>they recessitated near- precambarian era cellular life the other day.
link?

>> No.14648770

>>14647308
The sensors are so cold I'd imagine the noise floor is damn near zero. I wonder if it's possible to pick up integrated flux nebulosity noise in such a small field of view? But I'm just a big dummie so who knows.

>> No.14648794

>>14647029
It seems like the contrast is too high - you can see much more behind those fuzzy galaxies near the middle, than in the rest of the image. Does the image use the correct gamma correction?

>> No.14648801

>>14647561
>Soulless vs SOUL

>> No.14648814

any reason why we cant use these telescopes (that are zooming in billions of lightyears away) on planets 10000000000x closer and have documented where they are, like any of the terrestrial we've found? I don't get why we don't just capture an upclose pic of these planets

>inb4 it's impossible to physically locate the planet
that's BS

>> No.14648816

>>14647675
>NASA hiding evidence of type 3 civs
A more exciting conspiracy to think about than /pol/schizos talking about how space isn't real and the earth is flat. Alien civilizations are exciting (and somewhat horrifying).

>> No.14648820

>>14648814
They're too small and dim.

>> No.14648828

>>14647082
bc it's false color and made to look as if it were seen through conventional optics. almost all of the data is infrared but they also need to justify themselves to the public

>> No.14648833

>>14647416
>>14648528
>>14648617
Get help

>> No.14648836

>>14648335
Nope. Refraction is wavelength dependent, which lensing is not.

>> No.14648837
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>>14646821
that's it ? i was expecting something better
>>14648014
>1 billion dollars in tax payers money
more like 10

>> No.14648840

>>14648814
Planets are too small and look underwhelming compared to deep spacecraft photos.

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>>14647561
this zoom has a higher res compared to the 28 mb png https://stsci-opo.org/STScI-01G7JJADTH90FR98AKKJFKSS0B.png tf where can I get the high res version to zoom in like that

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>>14648847

>> No.14648902

>>14647058
Nespresso galaxy

>> No.14648904

>>14647304
>>14647320
The figure of two weeks is wrong, they're referring to the Ultra Deep Field. The exposure time of the Hubble image for this field is only 7.3 hours.

>> No.14648913

>>14647894
man fuck them chickens. god your so fucking insufferable. muh morals muh self rightousness. theres no fucking use crying and whining like a fat fucking man child. No shit reality sucks, boo fucking hoo. what are you going do about it meaning wise? cause crying and hassling this thread does fucking nothing. How bout you go fuck off and enjoy life you miserable fuck.

>> No.14648922

>>14648836
>lensing is not
Still waiting for that explanation for why all Einstien rings are blue then

>> No.14648923

ok lensing effect is cool and so on but do we know how to undo it (in a perfcet manner) to make an accurate picture?

>> No.14648925

>>14647082
Because what you think is real is based on your own experiences even if those are fakes and what you see now is real. You basically associate how it should look from what you have gathered from video games or tv shows or even just how the sky looks during the night and then your brain hits you with the "this aint like the stuff we know chief" which makes you think it's not real. A lot of space stuff looks fake because of this effect, for instance all space photos look crispier than reality because there's no soft blur with distance due to air and shadows are sharp with no sky which makes them look unnatural. There's basically no real reason to be embarrassed, it's a trap most brainlets fall into.

>> No.14648930

>>14646821
Why is the lensing all over the place? Seems fake.

>> No.14648931
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>>14647014
Is this a perfectly lensed primordial galaxy? Look at those globular clusters surrounding it. What amazing detail.

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>>14648931
Another similar galaxy, around the same distance along the edge of the lens. Are these in focus, gravitationally lensed primordial galaxies?

>> No.14648940
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>>14648936

>> No.14648953

>>14648922
Because most galaxies are starforming and blue. The best lenses are big massive red elliptical galaxies. Hence the rings look very blue in comparison.
Being wavelength dependent wouldn't cause a change in colour. It would mean that multiply lensed quasars would change position with wavelength, which is not observed. ALso the lensing around the Sun is the same in the visible and x-ray, no refractive process works over such a range in wavelength with no dependence.

>> No.14648968

>>14647691
>Seriously I'm sure theres an explanation but why aren't we looking at closer bodies to see them in the best detail possible.
They are. Next bunch of photos to be released will include stuff in our own galaxy. Later on it's supposed to be taking some closeups of Jupiter.

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https://hubblesite.org/contents/media/images/2019/17/4492-Image.html

For those who don't know, the 2019 Hubble Legacy Field is dozens of times larger than this and still jaw dropping, I can't wait to see what will be JWST's legacy field like, my PC struggles to even open the image

>> No.14648996

>>14648847
I think that webm is machine learning enhanced

>> No.14649000

>>14648814
Because even though the galaxies are billions and billions of light years away they are still billions and billions and billions of times bigger and brighter than any planet

>> No.14649001

>>14648765
Didn't happen. They found some microbes trapped in fluid pockets in 830 million years old crystals. The discoverers argued that they could, in principle, still be alive and dormant, but they didn't actually revive them. They're still inside the crystal.

>> No.14649003

>>14648996
in such a short time? and where can I find it?

>> No.14649011

>>14649003
https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/vwwiip/zooming_into_a_128x_version_of_jwts_first_deep/

>> No.14649015

>>14648814
Because then it would be obvious planets are flat. They're early with this lensing bullcrap before they look at closer things.

>> No.14649016

>>14648931
>>14648936
>>14648940
don't think so they're not redshifted enough

the oldest galaxies in the image are deep red in color

if you look at this >>14647945
you can actually see there's some very redshifted galaxies that hubble wasn't even able to pick up because they were all the way in the infrared

>> No.14649018

>>14647181
July 26

>> No.14649019

>>14649011
thx anon. while it is a nice approach it's a bummer that there isn't a real higher resolution image. of course reddit jannies already cleaned up that post.

>> No.14649028
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>>14647609
The thing is it's kinda meaningless to talk about "real" colors. Our eyes would not even be able to see most of this shit because it's shifted so far into the infrared that it's outside the spectrum of visible light. And the rest is so dim that our eyes can't pick up enough light to make out details.

If you could actually go in space and observe the brightest stuff it would mostly look like a fuzzy red/white haze. You wouldn't ever be able to actually see such details as you can from telescopes.

The best way to get a good idea of this is to get a good pair of binoculars and go out on a very dark night and look for the Andromeda galaxy. It will appear as a very diffuse patch of white light.

All the colors you see from telescope images do correspond to certain wavelengths though, so they are internally consistent and that's all that matters.

>> No.14649048
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Look at this absolute unit right here. I think it's the most redshifted of all the galaxies in the image and it's entirely invisible in the hubble field. It's literally one of the first galaxies.

>> No.14649050
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>>14649011
thx anon

>> No.14649055

>>14649050
Is there a higher res of the deep field out there already?

>> No.14649057

>>14649055
no it is machine learning enhanced

https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/vwwiip/zooming_into_a_128x_version_of_jwts_first_deep/

https://astrosleuth.web.app/

>> No.14649062

>>14649048
It being so bright still implies that we're looking at an active quasar

>> No.14649063

>>14649057
>https://astrosleuth.web.app/
Damn I just passed the 4mb image through it and this shit is magical, the image is way way sharper now

>> No.14649077

>>14647724
Nig cyclops galaxy.

>> No.14649086

>>14649063
I feared this was going to happen.

>> No.14649094

>>14649086
>oh no no no my hard sciencerinos is descrated by artistic DL enhancements

>> No.14649129

30 years and countless billions for slightly higher res pics?
i dont get the hype.

>> No.14649132

>>14649129
wait 30 years

>> No.14649267

>>14649132
whats the most exciting shit they could find?

>> No.14649269

>>14649267
ayy

>> No.14649273

>>14649269
lmao

>> No.14649277

AYY CAN'T BREATHE

>> No.14649290

>>14648014
hey, at least it will lead to some new cool wallpapers

>> No.14649315

>>14647209
what is that

>> No.14649324

>>14649315
The promised Ethnogalaxy, no black holes allowed

>> No.14649371

>>14647655
stop being a part of the problem and work towards a solution by offing yourself, doomer

>> No.14649429
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>>14649050

>> No.14649452

>>14647461
Lol calm down spaz

>> No.14649559

>>14649429
What is the advantage of this for scientists? Couldnt you enhance the pic from hubble with some AI stuff?

A few weeks ago I read that a NASA employee was crying because of the first photos of james webb. What the HELL, I was expecting something totally different......

>> No.14649561

>>14647014
>png vs jpg
yes, packed data takes less space

>> No.14649586

>>14649559
there is no real advantage since it makes up data, it's just playing around

>I read that a NASA employee was crying because of the first photos of james webb
I mean it's cool and some people are really emotionally involved but I wouldn't cry

>I was expecting something totally different
first picture of years to come, get a rest

>> No.14649587
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Are people just genuinely becoming more retarded?

>is this picture LE FAKE?

It's 12 hours exposure vs 5 weeks exposure from hubble. Good lord, I am honestly at this point happy that they want to force feed poor people crickets and microplastics.

>> No.14649800

why is the image quality so bad? did they use an android camera?

>> No.14650198
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>>14647685
nice
>>14647699
faggot, is just a shity image, nothing more and nothing less, normal people don't care about this type of stuff and won't affect them, those stars and galaxies are so far away even with light speed it will take mankind millions of years to reach.
Is beautiful, but that's it, people will forget about it 2 weeks later
>>14647724
kek

>> No.14651078

>>14647699
go back