ukrainian woman wins fields medal

[Anonymous No.14644182]

>ukrainian
>woman

is this a pity award?

37yo Maryna Viazovska won the fields medal last week for her work on 'sphere packing'. She's the first Ukrainian person to ever win the fields medal; what do we think about this lads? Considering all the media can talk about is the fact that she's a woman.

Any old mathfags know if she actually deserved it?

[Anonymous No.14644188]

Second Ukrainian, actually. The fact shes referred as the first is interesting

[Anonymous No.14644191]

>>14644182
>coincidentally one year after the board gets criticized for not choosing enough women for the prize.
>coincidentally after the whole Rusian invasion
hmm I wonder if it was deserved?

[Anonymous No.14644194]

It's a political statement. She's a mediocre, insignificant mathematician, just as you'd expect from a woman.

[Anonymous No.14644200]

>>14644182
>>14644191
>>14644194
Piss of to /pol/, faggots. This is fifth thread on that topic. Why don't you create a post about the other three laureates?
>what do we think about this lads?
"We" already said "our" thoughts 5 threads ago. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.14644201]

>>14644188

[Anonymous No.14644203]

>>14644200
Checked the catalogue with ctrl f and no results for fields medal.

[Anonymous No.14644205]

>>14644182
What did she do with sphere packing? I have asked this several times in these clone threads. Nobody knows? I suspect is something in a high number of dimensions or maybe a general N number of dimensions, with hyperspheres, spheres in 3 dimensions are understood

[Anonymous No.14644207]

>>14644200
I already made posts about the other three laureates but apparently /sci/ doesn't know enough about their research. This thread is about a particular laureate though, so it's legitimate to give a factually correct answer to OP's question. Go simp somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.14644212]

>>14644205
All the top articles and the wikipedia article refuse to elaborate any further than that. I guess nobody really knows, just that woman + ukrainian.

[Anonymous No.14644213]

>>14644201
>Believing jewpedia
Vladimir is forgotten. Look up the 1990 fields medal recipients.

[Anonymous No.14644214]

>>14644200
First one I'm seeing. Spend less time online.

[Anonymous No.14644215]

>>14644203
I suppose some were deleted because it's always the same shit? >>14627441 is still in the archive, but there were more.

[Anonymous No.14644216]

Eurovision, but math

[Anonymous No.14644217]

>>14644214
Lurk moar

[Anonymous No.14644219]

>>14644205
She proved spheres are shape for densest packing in dimensions 8 and 24. Hardly deserving of a fields medal imo

[Anonymous No.14644225]

>>14644219
>She proved spheres are shape for densest packing in dimensions 8 and 24.
What does this mean?

[Anonymous No.14644227]

>>14644207
Link them.

[Anonymous No.14644228]

>>14644219
Really mah nigga spheres are the densest when packing spheres? Touch grass

[Anonymous No.14644229]

>>14644225
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packing_problems
She found the densest packing for dimension 8 and 24

[Anonymous No.14644231]

>>14644228
I'll touch your mom's grass iykwim nigger

[Anonymous No.14644243]

>>14644229
>E8 lattice
I fucking knew it

[Anonymous No.14644247]

>>14644227
For example >>14633842

[Anonymous No.14644252]

>n late February, just weeks AFTER Maryna Viazovska learned she had won a Fields Medal — the highest honor for a mathematician — Russian tanks and war planes began their assault on Ukraine, her homeland, and Kyiv, her hometown.

https://www.quantamagazine.org/ukrainian-mathematician-maryna-viazovska-wins-fields-medal-20220705/

She got the medal before the invasion. Its not a pity award.

[Anonymous No.14644256]

>>14644247
That's not a thread though. /mg/ is much more civilized than those /pol/ infested trolling attempts

[Anonymous No.14644271]

>>14644252
>She got the medal before the invasio
SUUUUUUUUUUUURE

[Anonymous No.14644275]

>>14644271
>quantamagazine is lying just because it doesn't fit your world view in which a Ukrainian woman would never deserve this medal
SUUUUUUUUUUUURE

Seriously, though. She got a professorship at one of the best universities in the world. Was that also because of the war?

[Anonymous No.14644287]

>>14644219
>Hardly deserving of a fields medal imo
Good thing your opinion is literally worthless

[Anonymous No.14644298]

>>14644287
back to lefty /pol/ with that insecurity projection.

[Anonymous No.14644300]

>>14644298
Back to /pol/ with your gaslighting

[Anonymous No.14644306]

>>14644298
>back to lefty /pol/
M8, your GPT bot was trained on the wrong dataset. You should fix that

[Anonymous No.14644325]

>>14644306

[Anonymous No.14644340]

Pity should have no place in mathematics. Fields is dead.

[Anonymous No.14644342]

>>14644325
I didn't know, GPT-3 could post pictures. Well, it's been fun, but I prefer talking to a sentient being. Posting AI generated /pol/ shit all over blue boards should be a bannable offence.

[Anonymous No.14644345]

>>14644340
It doesn't, retard. >>14644252

[Anonymous No.14644368]

>>14644275
>Why would a no-name internet website with no sources just make shit up?

[Anonymous No.14644390]

>>14644342
For a blue board user you're slow. Wojak icon is /pol/ user, interviewee is lefty. Irony

[Anonymous No.14644395]

>>14644345
Imagine posting on /sci/ and not knowing how to research the (fake) "facts" in that article. You must be a retarded kraut or some type of other kraut adjacent eurofag. You believe whatever you read in dubious sources. Kys

[Anonymous No.14644404]

>>14644368
>>14644395
>the poltards don't even know about quanta magazine

[Anonymous No.14644408]

>>14644404
>It was founded by the former New York Times journalist Thomas Lin, who is the magazine's editor-in-chief.

[Anonymous No.14644413]

>>14644408
Wow, you really think that proves something don't you? poltards are really hopeless.

[Anonymous No.14644415]

>>14644395
Please do, so I can learn from you, based /pol/tard.
>You must be a retarded kraut or some type of other kraut adjacent eurofag.
Isn't racism outside of /b/ against the site-wide rules?

[Anonymous No.14644419]

>>14644415
>Europe is a race
Eurofags get stupider every day.

[Anonymous No.14644428]

>>14644419
>Kraut is not a racial slur
Keep telling yourself that you're not racist, racist. I bet "some of your best friends are black", so "you can't be racist".

[Anonymous No.14644431]

>>14644252
>Russia invades Ukraine Feb 24
>Committee can't even hold meetings in Russia anymore
>Yet before the committee met to determine the winner, the winner was already announced
>But the winners weren't ACKSHUALLY announced until July
You know why your source is nonsense? Because it cites no sources cocksucking NPC faggot

[Anonymous No.14644433]

>>14644428
>Kraut is a racial slur
Fucking lol. So which race is kraut supposedly racist against? Whites? So if I call a Russian a kraut, that's racist? As if kraut doesn't also refer to the hajeebs in krautland. Top. Fucking. Kek. I think I nailed it. You're a retarded socialist kraut and are upset I identified to based on your faggotry. Kys.

[Anonymous No.14644451]

>>14644431
You absolute fucking moron, just look at the header in her official interview
https://www.mathunion.org/fileadmin/IMU/Prizes/Fields/2022/Maryna_Viazovska%20_Interview.pdf

>Part of the interview was recorded before February 24, 2022, another part — after. In both cases, the interviewers were Russian mathematicians

[Anonymous No.14644458]

>>14644275
No, that was because she's a woman.

[Anonymous No.14644462]

>>14644451
Which parts? Which dates? Every other part of the interview is clearly labeled. Transcribed with exact dates and which questions were asked. And yet... Not a single transcript is provided for a single date before February 24th. Curious, don't you think? You're a mouth-breathing fucking moron. Obviously they added in that one line (without any facts) to pretend she didn't get the medal out of pity. Doesn't take a genius to notice that inconsistency. The reason why it's intentionally vague is so that it can't be deboonked. If it gave specific times and quotes, it could be deboonked from evidence.

[Anonymous No.14644464]

>>14644462
It literally says Feb 18th and June 6th right there in the PDF. Go back to pol you illiterate clown.

[Anonymous No.14644472]

>>14644464
Proof?

[Anonymous No.14644477]

>>14644462
I don't have time to waste with illiterate clowns like you. Go back to pol and come up with more conspiracy theories with your fellow retards.

[Anonymous No.14644479]

>>14644477
Meant to quote >>14644472, but you're the same retard anyway

[El Arcón No.14644494]

It's almost impossible than any woman would have been more qualified for a Fields than a man. Certainly it is impossible that it could have happened more than once in the short history of that prize. Giving it to women makes it worthless, which it is.

[Anonymous No.14644502]

>>14644404
Its a random zine from the internet. Its not a scientific journal, it has no prestige. Its some random blog. Post some actual evidence that this woman got the medal before the invasion

[Anonymous No.14644504]

>>14644477
What do you have time to waste on? Get back to work, lazy fuck. And you wonder why your country is inferior to USA.

[Anonymous No.14644517]

>>14644464
Thats not evidence of anything. I want to see some dated statement from the fields medal corporation that states when the decision to grant the medal gas agreed on, something from their corporate board meeting minutes

[Anonymous No.14644519]

>>14644431
>before the committee met to determine the winner
Are you retarded or trying to deceive people? The medal is awarded at the congress, not determined. The articles were published before the congress even started.
You know why your logic is nonsense? Because mathematicians cannot travel in time cocksucking NPC faggot

[Anonymous No.14644525]

>>14644517
>I want to see some dated statement from the fields medal corporation that states when the decision to grant the medal gas agreed on
On February 18, they asked "how did you feel when you found out about the medal?"
Even a retard would deduce that the decision must have been made before that question, since the interviewer is asking in past tense. Not sure why you are pretending to be even more retarded than you actually are.

[Anonymous No.14644613]

>>14644519
>The articles were published before the congress even started.
Proof?

[Anonymous No.14644618]

>>14644525
Got any time stamped document for that, such as meeting minutes?

[Anonymous No.14644620]

>>14644525
Theres not any interview that takes a month, such a PDF is clearly doctored and i want to see an original source. Not some interview, but the original documents from the decision

[Anonymous No.14644622]

>>14644613
>>14644618
>>14644620
kys

[Anonymous No.14644633]

>>14644622
What's the matter sweaty?

[Anonymous No.14644648]

>>14644201
Drinfel'd
>>14644205
>>14644219
>>14644225
She proved the E8 lattice gives the densest possible packing of equal spheres in 8 dimensions and the Leech lattice gives the densest packing in 24 dimensions. This is a huge achievement since the only other known cases are for n=1,2,3. Her proof made clever use of modular forms and this has suggested deep interplay between discrete geometry and number theory.

The Leech lattice can be constructed using three copies of the E8 lattice, but whats really cool about the Leech lattice is that it arises in the orbifold and VOA constructions used to get the Moonshine module, a major part of monstrous moonshine that relates modular forms, finite simple groups, and bosonic string theory.

Basically she took really esoteric geometric objects and showed how they can be used to solve a very hard and famous problem. The proof itself is also very creative, which is an accomplishment in itself.

[Anonymous No.14644658]

>>14644648
how do you explain the fact that a cool thing was done by a woman?

[Anonymous No.14644661]

>>14644413
quanta is pure propaganda, notice how their "news" incidentally include for 30% math done by blacks, 30% by women, and the rest by jews

[Anonymous No.14644681]

>>14644661
>complaining about secondary source when primary source was already posted
/pol/tards on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.14644726]

>>14644648
Stop simping faggot, she found that sphere packing in 8 dimensions coincides with the E8 lattice. Wonderful, you could have left it at that.

[Anonymous No.14644728]

>>14644681
>>complaining about secondary source when primary source was already posted
No primary source was posted. Some inteview is not a primary source. It was posted way after the war started. Post some primary source posted before the war started. Something official and not some random interview unrelated to the decision process

[Anonymous No.14644745]

>>14644728
>Some inteview is not a primary source.
Yes, it is, if it is conducted by the people who awarded the medal. How much more primary can it be?
>some random interview unrelated to the decision process
Logic, motherfucker, can you into it? If Ann talks to Bob about a decision she made on February 18th, can we deduct whether Ann decided before Feb 24th?

[Anonymous No.14644749]

>>14644745
I could post a source (written today) saying that I predicted the Field Medal winner back in March of 2020. Would you believe it?

[Anonymous No.14644760]

>>14644749
If you don't believe the people who made the decision, who would you believe?

[Anonymous No.14644782]

>>14644760
It's not about who, but about what.

[Anonymous No.14644785]

>>14644782
>but about what
So you would only believe what you want to believe? Did you just say the quiet part loud? Awkward.

[Anonymous No.14644811]

>>14644785
no, i believe sources that are time stamped. i entered a few search queries on google restricted to the time
>February 17, 2022 - February 22, 2022
Tried a few searches like "Maryna Viazovska" or "fields medal" or "fields medal 2022". Not a single hit showed up confirming she had been selected by then. Can you find anything?

[Anonymous No.14644825]

What realistically happened is that she was among the candidates, she wasn't chosen first, but a few weeks after the war the committee decided to change

[Anonymous No.14644854]

>>14644811
You already have proof, timestamped by the people who made the decision. What else could you possibly want? I have the feeling that you just keep asking for more and more sources, dismissing whatever someone delivers when he falls for your trolling attempts. You won't get more than proof from the IMU itself. I won't waste any more time or energy on you.
In case you are not trolling, you should seriously reconsider a lot of things. For once, that even in the age of the internet, not all information is immediately public and uploaded to the cloud. So if some council decides something today, you won't find it with Google tomorrow.
>>14644825
Then how come they called her on the 18th latest?

[Anonymous No.14644885]

>>14644854
you don't know what a time stamp is, lol.

[Anonymous No.14644903]

>>14644885
>implying you cannot forge timestamps
You would just doubt it anyway. A video of her with the Newspaper of February 18? Well, she could have kept it for a week and then taken the video.

[Anonymous No.14644967]

>>14644903
>Well, she could have kept it for a week and then taken the video.
yes, that is the argument. people are asking for a source that was released prior to february 24th confirming she had won the fields medal by then. without that, there is no good reason to believe she was chosen before the invasion of ukraine.

[Anonymous No.14644973]

>>14644967
>people are asking for a source that was released prior to february 24th
1. What stops your brain from understanding the fact that the decision was not public prior to that date?
2. What proof would you accept without any doubt? Everything could be fabricated.

[Anonymous No.14645004]

>>14644973
any kind of record released prior to february 24th. awfully convenient no such record exists. even privatized research requires records. for example, what's to stop terrence tao coming out, saying he came up with all the work Maryan did back in March of 2020, therefore Maryna doesn't deserve the medal; Tao does. to corroborate his claim, he releases a notepad with the date "March 21st, 2020" written followed by the same proof Maryna wrote. well, it's private research yeah? guess we better just believe him. hmmm, i think i just found out how to get a fields medal. thanks man, see you in 2026.

[Anonymous No.14645019]

>>14644745
>How much more primary can it be?
Needs to be published before the war and related only to the medal itself. No additions. A communication from the field medals corporation stating their decision to grant the medal with no irrelevant commentary over Maria's childhood in Ukraine

[Anonymous No.14645026]

>>14644854
The document you refer to was published after the war started, It may refer to events before the war but it was not published before.

[Anonymous No.14645029]

>>14644433
German / Austrian / Swiss

Because they eat sauerkraut

[Anonymous No.14645030]

>>14644973
>What stops your brain from understanding the fact that the decision was not public prior to that date?
So you agree theres no documents published before the 24th?

[Anonymous No.14645035]

>>14644433
Germans are a race, they are not white they are germans. The white race is a social construct invented in colonial Spain and later adopted by colonial anglos

[Anonymous No.14645074]

>>14645030
There are documents proving that the decision was made before the 24th.

[Anonymous No.14645077]

>>14645019
>related only to the medal itself. No additions
top kek, what a pathetic attempt this is to raise the bar even higher.

[Anonymous No.14645167]

>MUH IT HAPPENED ON THE 23RD, NOT THE 24TH

couple of things:
-war in ukraine + putler bad narrative started in 2014.
-western media started obsessing over russian troops on ukranian border since december 2021.

[Anonymous No.14645194]

>>14645167
>-war in ukraine + putler bad narrative started in 2014.
So every award any Ukrainian got in the last 8 years is pure virtue signalling and not deserved?

[Anonymous No.14645303]

>>14645194
No, but an additional political motivation was born on that year.

Just like we now have "inclusivity" as additional motivation for nobel prizes (see those 2 recent physics ones).

The fields lady happened to possess both motivations (in addition to a good research result, which however I'm sure is comparable to at least a few others from boring western white males).

But yeah keep believing that academics are pure innocent angels if that helps you.

[Anonymous No.14645337]

>>14645030
You are legitimately braindead.

[Anonymous No.14645346]

>>14645074
>>14645077
Post something published before the 24 that communicates the decision to give the award. That is all

[Anonymous No.14645352]

>>14645337
Post proofs published before the 24th

[Anonymous No.14645447]

>>14644182
pure coincidence, the nobel prizes are completely unpoliticized, that why obama won the nobel peace prize for starting a bunch of wars, while president trump was the first american president in over half a century to go a term in office without starting a war and the nobel committee ignored him

[Anonymous No.14645526]

>>14644431
what the fuck since when can you attach PDFs?

[Anonymous No.14645589]

>>14645346
>>14645352
Post something even hinting at the opposite. You can't prove a negative, but so far the only hint is your schizo brain suspecting a great conspiracy.

[Anonymous No.14645631]

Let me sum up this thread
>it must be because she is woman and Ukrainian
>no I don't have any idea what she did and shay problem she solved
>no I don't have any idea about what other people they could of choose for this award instead for their work
>IT MUST JUST BE OKAY?
I hate woman more then the next guy but I usually don't make claims like it must be because she is a woman unless I know a little more. I'm not a mathematician so I don't know anything about this garbage.
Once in a while a woman does stumble onto something.

[Anonymous No.14645690]

after piper harron are there people that still believe in mainstream mathematics? lmao

[Anonymous No.14645726]

>>14645631
ok fucking retard but know don't you know that there're many mathematicians who can win and the winner is decided by details? or are you a fucking npc?

[Anonymous No.14646059]

>>14645589
So do you have the documents or not? Nothing from before the 24th?

[Anonymous No.14646084]

A Jew lost his chance at a medal because of this cunt. Ukranians will pay

[Anonymous No.14646595]

>>14646059
Yes, the interview is from before the 24th. If English is not your first language, I can try to explain it in Italian, French, Spanish, or German. With google translate, I could probably offer many more languages.

[Anonymous No.14647222]

>>14645631
The nobel prize committee specifically said gender is now a factor in their decision. Not sure if the fields committee has done the same, but if not it's implied at this point.

[Anonymous No.14647565]

>>14646595
That document is not from before the 24th.

[Anonymous No.14649959]

>>14647222
We're not talking about a Nobel prize, brainlet